WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Estelle

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<v Speaker 1>Questloft Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. So Up, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Black music is one of the foundational forces behind modern culture. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Suprema, Some Suprema, Roll Call, Suprema Son Supremo, Roll Call,

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<v Speaker 2>Supremo Son Supremo, Roll Call Suprema Some Suprema.

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<v Speaker 1>Roll Call Duca Earl Yeah, Milton Burl, Yeah, give it

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<v Speaker 1>a twirl.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, London Girl, Suprema Supremo roll Call.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Sugar, Yeah, what's up a stell? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You need a son? Yeah, I got one to sell.

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<v Speaker 1>Supprimo roll Suprema something Suprema roll.

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<v Speaker 4>My name is Boss Bill Yeah, and I'm on my knees. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I forgot to prepare for roll call.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Forgive me a stell pretty please.

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<v Speaker 5>Sup.

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<v Speaker 2>Supremo Role Suprema So Supremo roll call.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like, yeah, and my girl is Stelle. We ain't

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<v Speaker 6>no substitutes no more. Oh she knows me well.

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<v Speaker 2>Supprima something Supremo role, my names and stell Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>I am litty.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'm out here doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>In New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>Came something Supremo roll Suprema.

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<v Speaker 2>Something Suprema roll call, Suprema something something Supremo roll call, Supremo.

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<v Speaker 1>Son son suppering up.

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<v Speaker 4>I hate y'all for not taking American Boy because I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to do mine around that, but I was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Too obviously, too obvious. Did London Girl because I thought

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<v Speaker 1>was obvious was going to do that. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>let me, let me go for a little bit deep.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me go a little deeper. I'll go for pretty please.

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<v Speaker 1>It was good.

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<v Speaker 7>That was good. Was you're not my substitute? Normal?

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<v Speaker 1>You know we gotta pay for.

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<v Speaker 7>That was only two seconds heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, I was going to say, I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out a way to incorporate, uh, five

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<v Speaker 1>ft seven being the id height. It was a bladder,

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<v Speaker 1>leave me loud, everybody, everybody against me, against me about it?

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<v Speaker 1>You you were trying to do that.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just having a mumble and it made sense,

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<v Speaker 5>and the mumbles so I can't do five for seven.

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<v Speaker 5>So look we're doing the vibes and John is like

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<v Speaker 5>doing the melody and he's like and.

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, well five seven.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes sense, yes, okay, But I just thought maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the conversion of yeah, I was gonna say it like

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<v Speaker 1>you might would have been like six. But you made

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of low self esteem dudes, feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>mean low.

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<v Speaker 7>The sure man have my bike? Sure guys guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Quest

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<v Speaker 1>Love Supreme. I am six ft three, Thank you. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>six for three as well. Great, he'll tell you like

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<v Speaker 1>eight okay, Well you wear hills all the time, Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>my feet are size thirteen. All right, So, brought to

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<v Speaker 1>you by the the good folk of iHeart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>your host quest Love Jenkins. Uh, Team Supreme is with

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<v Speaker 1>us today. We got a boss Bill in the house

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<v Speaker 1>and sugar Steve Steve Jenkins. Yeah, sure, this is crazy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know he don't be rocking his middle name,

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<v Speaker 1>his last name and nothing. So Bertie Jenkins means the

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<v Speaker 1>best name of all time. So I'm sorry, Dice, you

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<v Speaker 1>are Bert Jenkins to light. Yeah, and like was up, Yeah, unpaid.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill must be getting his bills paid because we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen him in the month of days.

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<v Speaker 6>He gave me the other day, like I just got

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<v Speaker 6>back from sun Dance and I'm headed to l A.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, he's doing movies. I'm doing movies too,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm here, damn. But of course Fante promised this

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<v Speaker 1>way back in November. He was going out for cigarette

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<v Speaker 1>So we're still waiting for Dad to come back home.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, our guest today, of course, needs no introduction.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, I just got that joke. Actually, after

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty episodes about him going out for cigarettes and

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<v Speaker 1>not coming home. Yeah, that's that's how. Yes, I understand fathers.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it go out from some smokes and dentists.

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<v Speaker 1>He never left, no man, it doesn't smoke. And he

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<v Speaker 1>came home.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I just imagine your dad being like Steve

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<v Speaker 4>Martin a little shopping horrors.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's a reference. Anyway, Ladies and gentlemen, our

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<v Speaker 1>guest today needs no introduction. She is a Grammy Award

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<v Speaker 1>winning singer songwriter, slash mc uh slash voice actress. Uh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I will say. And I got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of Stephen Universe questions because I've just recently gotten to

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<v Speaker 1>crystal rock technology. I used to be one of the

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<v Speaker 1>people that like laughed at people all right side note,

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<v Speaker 1>like the jazzy fat nasties used to always just walk

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<v Speaker 1>around with like a bunch of crystals in their pockets.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought that was the kookiest ship ever. And

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<v Speaker 1>now I can't. Yeah on me time. Literally, I keep

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<v Speaker 1>granted and crystals and amethysts. Welcome, Welcome, I feel real silk.

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<v Speaker 7>Welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>She she she hells from my other home, the West

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<v Speaker 1>side of London, West Side. Yes, well, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>many black people that are from the West side of one.

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<v Speaker 7>There's a whole contingency of us.

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<v Speaker 1>We we are there, I see all right, old ladies

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<v Speaker 1>and gentlemen, welcome my near aquarian capricorn sister. Sell to

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<v Speaker 1>the shell.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it just made me crunchy as hellrib cool cool,

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<v Speaker 5>granola crunchy.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'm sorry, sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I get it. How are you today?

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<v Speaker 5>I am wonderful. It's beautiful outside. It is really characteristically.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice, beautiful February. It is February. It is It's February. Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it? Is it? Bill? It's late February. Everybody almost

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<v Speaker 1>We're still here, Steve, please, gentlemen, Steven snapping, Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned in your I know that we were all winging

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<v Speaker 1>our roll call, but you mentioned New York City. But

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to think that you are you officially here.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm in l A. I'm in LA officially my close

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<v Speaker 7>of it now, So okay, that's kind of how.

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<v Speaker 1>But correct me if I'm wrong A few times like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I used to be here. I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 1>like a few times I dropped you off.

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<v Speaker 5>In the same seat and say that no no, not

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<v Speaker 5>like his version, Tell him, no, I've.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a considerate person. Anybody gets in my car, a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of people. Yeah, the last one that goes home.

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<v Speaker 1>I dropped people off.

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<v Speaker 6>So trip has Estelle saying you got me at some

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<v Speaker 6>point on a stage.

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<v Speaker 7>Pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>I go back to like eighteenth letter pre eighteenth letter Estelle,

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<v Speaker 1>when Estelle was saying yes and yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So I remember, like, so the first time we met,

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<v Speaker 5>period was in London.

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<v Speaker 7>I think I opened up you guys used to.

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<v Speaker 5>Be there a lot, and I think I live yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and I opened up for you a few times at

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<v Speaker 5>different events and venues.

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<v Speaker 1>When I suggest rap, you can, I need you to

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<v Speaker 1>explain something to me because as much as like claiming

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, London's or second home, London's or second home,

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<v Speaker 1>there's one thing that no one's ever properly explained to me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's so and hopefully you can, you know, give

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<v Speaker 1>some clarity to me and our listeners out there. There's

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<v Speaker 1>so many sub genres of music that comes from urban

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<v Speaker 1>London on ground, yeah, I mean there's grime, two step, drumming, bassed,

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<v Speaker 1>E d M, trip hop, acid, jazz, everything. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>properly give us an education or like no, no small task.

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<v Speaker 7>Here, no, Well, on the different subgenres well how all right, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know the difference, Like, okay, the the

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<v Speaker 1>is two step under the house umbrella, whereas what's grime.

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<v Speaker 5>Grime is like a sub genre, a subdivision of what

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<v Speaker 5>hip hop and what the kids who weren't specifically like

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<v Speaker 5>rappers and who were into jungle kind of made who

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<v Speaker 5>went into UK hip hop but who were also into

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<v Speaker 5>like dance music and jungle made grime, and like garage,

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<v Speaker 5>it kind of came out of the garage umbrella.

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<v Speaker 7>So like UK hip hop was.

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<v Speaker 5>The founding thing, right, and that came out of dance

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<v Speaker 5>all and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a Rodney P and M guys.

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<v Speaker 5>It had a really big presence and then but at

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<v Speaker 5>the same time it was like dance music, which has

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<v Speaker 5>always been our thing.

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<v Speaker 7>Like we listened to all different types of music all

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<v Speaker 7>the time.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, So you've got you got us going to school

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<v Speaker 5>and being at home listening to like reggae, dance or

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<v Speaker 5>hip hop, right as we know, like standards genres, and

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<v Speaker 5>you got to go to school and you listen to

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<v Speaker 5>like dance and house and trip trippy music, right, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's like acids and all that stuff. And so we

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<v Speaker 5>essentially just merged them all together because that's what black

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<v Speaker 5>people do, and you know, and and so we came

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<v Speaker 5>up with garage, which was like emceing over faster beats

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<v Speaker 5>which were kind of in the house range, okay, And

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<v Speaker 5>that garage became that, and then grime became slow it

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<v Speaker 5>down and wrap a bit more, be a bit more

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<v Speaker 5>swaggy with it, like you can wear echo and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 5>and or you can wear like all the all the

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<v Speaker 5>things that feel like you're rapping, but you're still keeping

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<v Speaker 5>it English because that was our thing we made up.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's where it becomes like a whole, like we

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<v Speaker 5>made this genre now.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So the lines.

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<v Speaker 7>Get blurred as far as how you do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But for all right, so when we first went there

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<v Speaker 1>in ninety three, it didn't exist, right, okay, So drum

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<v Speaker 1>and bass was just starting, all right. So to explain

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<v Speaker 1>to our listeners out there, drum and bass is where

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<v Speaker 1>you would take whereas like hip hoppers would take a

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<v Speaker 1>breakbeat and take it as is. I mean, someone would

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<v Speaker 1>chop it up and flip it or whatever. But for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, like what you hear on the record

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<v Speaker 1>is what you would hear sampled drum and bass. They

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<v Speaker 1>would speed it up almost past forty five to like

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<v Speaker 1>seventy eight, which okay, So my theory is that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the hip hop experience in America mirrors whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>vice of choice or drug of choice is of a generation.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, if we so, my five year theory is,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll try to make this quickest pot Uh like sixty

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<v Speaker 1>seven seventy two is our uh what you would say,

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<v Speaker 1>the heroin period seventy two, the seventy seven I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me. Sixty seven, uh to seventy two, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>is the joint period. Seventy two to seventy seven was

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<v Speaker 1>the heroin period seventy seven and eighty two. Cocaine eighty

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<v Speaker 1>two to eighty seven, the no forty ounce malt liquor

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<v Speaker 1>eighty seven and ninety two, crack and as as and

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm saying, miss anyone else getting hungry? You know

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<v Speaker 1>it speeds up. Ninety two to ninety seven was the

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<v Speaker 1>chronic period, the weed everything slowed down. Ninety seven to

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and two was the sexy? Uh what was

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<v Speaker 1>the ecstasy? The sexy? Did he have you got this?

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<v Speaker 7>Did you think about that? About?

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<v Speaker 1>That? Is the period to two to seven is the

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<v Speaker 1>scissor period, the codine period, uh, seven to twelve, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven to twelve will be saying that's the Moley period.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well no, that's after No Molly came after two thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of well, I would say maybe lean. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>Ti Pots.

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<v Speaker 6>It's funny, but it's not drum kids that.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to those Super Bowl commercials on time commercials.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty twelve to twenty seventeen definitely, uh, percoset period. And

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<v Speaker 1>now I guess we're currently in between twenty seventeen to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two, which what is the drug of the

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<v Speaker 1>moment right now? Yeah? Wean life.

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<v Speaker 7>We never go out of stats.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting high on life. Aureo thins are really good. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So my whole point is that the drug, the drug

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<v Speaker 1>that somehow permeates in each era, also determines like what

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<v Speaker 1>the music sounds like. So oh wait, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 1>In North and Northeast Philly, everyone's dying from it.

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<v Speaker 7>That we the X K K whatever it's you know

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<v Speaker 7>K Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I don't know why. The north East Philly has

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<v Speaker 1>it the worst.

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<v Speaker 7>Nothing to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, sorry, by property there. Sorry anyway, My point

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<v Speaker 1>is that I felt like but the thing is is

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't believe the people did you guys, not

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<v Speaker 1>even did London. I don't call London ever having like

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<v Speaker 1>a crack epidemic or.

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<v Speaker 7>A good question is it's like a consistent thing.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not that it was an epidemic more than it's

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<v Speaker 5>just like it's so no, it's our culture is so

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<v Speaker 5>like you could be the highest of the high. Keep

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<v Speaker 5>calm and carry on. Yeah, this is the culture. It's

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<v Speaker 5>never really been like the drug thing for me. The

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<v Speaker 5>way I looked at it was like it's associated with

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<v Speaker 5>homelessness and you're not doing too well. But now it's

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<v Speaker 5>at a point where you walk, Oh, it's like a

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<v Speaker 5>D boy the higher by it from you know what

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, from the from the from the guys on roadman,

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<v Speaker 5>not D Boys roadman.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>So it was never like, oh, your friend nixt door

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<v Speaker 5>to you is doing drugs and you can see it.

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<v Speaker 7>It was never like that, like obvious everyone smokes.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right.

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't smoke until I was thirty. I'm quite proud

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<v Speaker 7>of myself. Merely it's so fun. It's a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>But wait, why are you straight snitching like.

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<v Speaker 7>You said it before. I don't feel the snitching if

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<v Speaker 7>you said it before in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I might have forgot that might be a symptomy

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<v Speaker 1>back on those.

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<v Speaker 5>Good So it was a bit more of a like

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<v Speaker 5>supplied the mod thing and no one really was in

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<v Speaker 5>it like that. Now it's kind of across the board,

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<v Speaker 5>like what you knew, Like everybody had like the drug

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<v Speaker 5>dealer friends, but like they were also your friends.

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<v Speaker 6>So like what we watching that show now too on Netflix?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Oh God, shout out to Drake in.

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<v Speaker 7>The best way possible, said the best way.

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<v Speaker 1>Bunch of money I want where like I see a

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube show, I see a YouTube show and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm gonna give you a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of money to put this on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 7>I want to see this.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's power, Drake. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I appreciate sometimes they still need.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever watched it?

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<v Speaker 6>I have, don't. I'm saying that because I'm comfortable with you.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm saying that because I'm comfortable with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I show need subtitles. Even with Queen Sugar Gott,

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<v Speaker 1>we were all watching the last episode like a cliffhanger

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Queen Sugar, and I showed my television and

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot the subtitles on, and they even hit me

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter like wait, why are you subtitles on? I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yo, if you heard Ralph Angel speak, don't.

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<v Speaker 7>You dad talk about that?

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<v Speaker 1>King like that? Not Ralph? And that's Ralph Angel angry

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<v Speaker 1>good morning to me.

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<v Speaker 7>That's fine, jealous, stop it? King Kobe.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you know who's not going to be on the show.

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<v Speaker 6>No Kobe coming, I mean he's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>To the show, is okay?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you know what I'm saying, love you single? Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>I can't even know. I know his mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait that means something, I think different different. He

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<v Speaker 1>is young?

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<v Speaker 5>Really yeah, he's young and he's a young man.

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<v Speaker 7>I know we're never going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Get to your musical experiences because we're just gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about life. It's twenty minutes later, question, do you mean.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a little bro I caught.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, realized that there's gonna be a line of

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<v Speaker 1>this cub period in your life.

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<v Speaker 7>Right clear. I'm in that space now, not yet, uite.

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<v Speaker 4>Literally, her next album is gonna have a cover of

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<v Speaker 4>Millie Jackson's Young Man, Older Woman.

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<v Speaker 7>You know what No, it is not. That was young.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, younger men for us still moved like rabbits.

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<v Speaker 6>They like, we're not at that age where you want

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<v Speaker 6>to stay younger yet because.

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<v Speaker 5>They just they still even like what are you doing? Hold,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not teaching you stuff?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a fight every day all my life.

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<v Speaker 1>You need your own podcast, your own podcast, you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You don wanted to deal with I heard right exactly. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get to my whole point in the

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<v Speaker 1>whole seventeen minutes. My whole entire point was when I

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<v Speaker 1>was there. Yeah, a lot of cats were just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be from New York. Yeah, aka the twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>savage syndrome. Like I caught there was a there was

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<v Speaker 1>an interview where like yeah, and then he said spot

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<v Speaker 1>to you.

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<v Speaker 7>And we're like, wait a minute, what English?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And that's weird.

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't know he was from.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Not like you catch somebody young enough, like they're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>the whole accent, everything completely changes.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. But the thing is is that I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have been waiting for this moment all of

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<v Speaker 1>your life. I mean, really, you're pioneering that yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you're pioneering that the fact that not since maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the Soul, the Soul wave or even I mean no

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<v Speaker 1>really like with Sould the Soul having international acclaim, have

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen, you know, like other countries lead the forefront

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<v Speaker 1>of their movement and be accepted, not like oh, what's

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<v Speaker 1>America doing. Let's do like America. Now, you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>right in the rules, but it's like it's taken Like

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<v Speaker 1>with Mark Morrison, he's a great example. What is what

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<v Speaker 1>is he truly consider? Is he just he's potatoes R

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<v Speaker 1>and B?

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<v Speaker 7>Or is he's Mark Morrison? It was it's R and B.

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<v Speaker 5>Then is to us as pop And that's that's the

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<v Speaker 5>reason why it's such a heavy thing.

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<v Speaker 7>And I said this the other day.

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<v Speaker 5>I was talking, I was at my friends with my

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<v Speaker 5>friends in DC, and I said, thing is, you guys

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<v Speaker 5>have had such a strong culture for your entire like

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<v Speaker 5>as far back as the twenties, like it's been Black

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<v Speaker 5>American culture, despite what you think of it. You guys

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<v Speaker 5>have had it and we haven't.

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<v Speaker 7>It's been maybe since the fifties and the British.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so like we're like looking at it like, well

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<v Speaker 5>that seems to be the strongest thing to do.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's do that, you know, can I ask what it's weird?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 6>Because then when you go to Blacksnian, right, you find

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<v Speaker 6>out that, like the Brits were the biggest committers of

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<v Speaker 6>the whole slavery thing.

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<v Speaker 7>We are in black history mother, right.

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<v Speaker 6>So and I asked the British actresses once. I was like,

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<v Speaker 6>it seems like there's a disconnect between the cultures of

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<v Speaker 6>your motherland.

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<v Speaker 7>Well in a way.

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<v Speaker 5>Too, we came over from me I knew. I know

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<v Speaker 5>exactly where my family's from. My parents came like Senegal, Grenada,

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<v Speaker 5>Sierra Leone, like they came in the fifties.

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<v Speaker 7>They came in the fifties and sixties to the UK.

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<v Speaker 5>So for a lot of us, that's where we start

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<v Speaker 5>again in the European side of the world. But we

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<v Speaker 5>do know and like, my family's big on black history.

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<v Speaker 5>So my dad and my stepdad and my mom they

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<v Speaker 5>teach they taught us that from from like two and one,

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<v Speaker 5>like here's who you are. Go read these three big

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<v Speaker 5>anthologies on sex and race. I remember my mom gave

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<v Speaker 5>me this book set and I had to I read it.

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<v Speaker 7>I was a book one.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm still am and I read it as a kid,

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<v Speaker 5>and I knew about you know, the Black Queens, and

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<v Speaker 5>I knew about how we existed before coming over again

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<v Speaker 5>in the fifties. So like my perception of myself across

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<v Speaker 5>the border is different in general, but like that's where

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of us came from first, and it's a

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<v Speaker 5>big thing. Like we are taught that like in our homes,

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<v Speaker 5>not just because they're not going to teach you to school.

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<v Speaker 5>They taught us the same things you guys know. So

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<v Speaker 5>like our energy and perception of like where we start

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<v Speaker 5>is different, but the culture here is so long range

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<v Speaker 5>and so dominant.

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<v Speaker 7>You guys really have have it, Like I please, I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know want to take this person. I used to

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<v Speaker 7>be like, yo, how do you guys have like and.

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<v Speaker 5>I got to learn about Black Wall Street and YadA YadA,

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<v Speaker 5>and then like times like soldiers, huge questions you.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, don't get offended. We're still asking that question, like

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<v Speaker 1>Malcolm X.

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<v Speaker 7>I understand the context of it, but like at the time,

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, what.

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<v Speaker 6>The like that burning down and why people felt they

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<v Speaker 6>need to get rid of it so that you could have.

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<v Speaker 7>In the grand scheme of life, everything is everything.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't judge it, but like it's like you guys

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<v Speaker 5>have it and and I've had it for so long.

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<v Speaker 5>There's so much wealth in it and it's so much good.

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<v Speaker 5>Despite every attempt to burn down black culture over the

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<v Speaker 5>past two centuries in the US in around.

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<v Speaker 1>The world, how old were you when you discovered your

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<v Speaker 1>voice or your singing voice? I was like seventeen, So

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<v Speaker 1>from the age of zero to seventeen.

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<v Speaker 5>Time, no, no, Like I realized I was good at it.

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<v Speaker 5>I was seven and I realized that I could actually

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<v Speaker 5>do it. My mom made me singing my brother in

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<v Speaker 5>church and everyone clept and I was like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know, this is fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And what okay? So what is the what's the the

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<v Speaker 1>black experience in church in the UK compared to it's it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Us just as wild again everything is patterned, right, so

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<v Speaker 5>it's just as wild. We holy go Well for me,

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<v Speaker 5>I went to which is I went to church got prophecy,

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<v Speaker 5>which is like essentially kojik. I was a Methodist. I

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<v Speaker 5>was Muslim. We've been my grandma before I was born.

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<v Speaker 5>So here's the thing West Africa culture. My grandma married

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<v Speaker 5>a muslim man. She was Christian, so for a while

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<v Speaker 5>she had to learn Muslim and then.

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<v Speaker 7>She realized that that was a very oppressive the.

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<v Speaker 1>Version he for a woman.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and we're very women heavy in our family, so

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<v Speaker 5>we've had to dabble per se just to respect it.

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<v Speaker 7>But I remember one time I came from so.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 5>So when I was a child, did all the did

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<v Speaker 5>all the religions, and right before we went to real Christianity,

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:45.360
<v Speaker 5>I went to Africa and we went to my granddad's

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<v Speaker 5>village and I mem my grandma made us walk and

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<v Speaker 5>we get to the village and it's great, but it's

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<v Speaker 5>very Muslim and it's like Gambia. My grandma brings this

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<v Speaker 5>guy back with us who's like the village chief or

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<v Speaker 5>a village dude guy, medicine guy, uh, spiritual guy, and

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<v Speaker 5>he's teaching us Arabic and they're trying to like give

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<v Speaker 5>us these base lessons in my granddad's culture. And my

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<v Speaker 5>mom and I remember, because I'm the big mouth in

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<v Speaker 5>my family, low key loky. Now I'm the big mouth,

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<v Speaker 5>Like I'm the one that's like no, no, no, that's

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<v Speaker 5>not right.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>You challenge people all day?

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<v Speaker 5>Are you the oldest, second oldest oldest girl. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>pretty much. How many nine in my immediate one older brothers, six.

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<v Speaker 1>Girls, second oldest. So you're okay, you're Jackie. Okay, I

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:34.159
<v Speaker 1>can be everybody.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, Jackie, look good. That's good Jackie. Oh no, he's

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<v Speaker 7>the like.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, no, no, you jack natural hair.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, you are correct. Mixing was terrible, that's terrible, all right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>let's got a whole image.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait, no, my edges around, No, thise.

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<v Speaker 7>The butt, all right.

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<v Speaker 5>So he came back and he was teaching us like Arabic,

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:12.680
<v Speaker 5>and then they came to a part where it was

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<v Speaker 5>like women must be submissive, and I just kept feeling

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.120
<v Speaker 5>like that was wrong, and I said to him, well,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't agree.

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<v Speaker 7>I was like twelve or thirty, you know some shit

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 7>like that. Wow, And I was like, I don't agree.

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 7>Why do women have to not speak?

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Why do we?

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<v Speaker 7>And I went down the line and my mom was like,

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<v Speaker 7>what are you teaching my daughter in this lesson of classes?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 5>Huh no, not them, and she pulled us out the

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:38.120
<v Speaker 5>Arabic classes and that caused a rift in the family

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<v Speaker 5>to a degree, and then we became real Christians. And

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<v Speaker 5>that's where I kind of was like you know, like

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:45.919
<v Speaker 5>because you were like half in half. We would go

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 5>to my grandma's My grandma's a matriarch, and that would

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:50.679
<v Speaker 5>happen in my aunty at my grandma's house, and then

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:52.119
<v Speaker 5>we would go up our house and it would be

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 5>like Christian Christian, and then we went full Christian with

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 5>that after that, and then and then that was just

0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 5>a wild time. It was like don't wait on makeup,

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 5>don't do no things, and like, oh, like you you

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 5>were going to find the husband for you. And my

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 5>mom was like also, no, so here's what's gonna happen

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:09.440
<v Speaker 5>with me and my children.

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<v Speaker 1>It was we were oppressive Christian.

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 7>Oppressive, but also holy. It was a lot. There's a

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 7>lot going down.

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 5>And then I think it's always been music that kind

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:23.119
<v Speaker 5>of shifted my trajectory though, because we were in a

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 5>church choir and I remember being nineteen and we we

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 5>used to remix all the words to the song, so

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 5>like Brandy's best friend became Jesus is my best friend,

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 5>and like things like that, and like we did the

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 5>dances and stuff, and I remember one like church, we

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 5>had a church Christmas concept and we were doing the

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 5>whole like yere that do with that.

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 7>He's always been there friend, and the church like the

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 7>pastor got mad, like like, yo.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, what was he doing to listening to Brandy didn't

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 1>know that reference.

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 5>Well, we were exactly make it, no, but she was

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 5>more mad that, like she was more tight that we

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 5>were dancing and having a good time and she ain't

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 5>like my mom for some reason, and so she said

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 5>she kicked us out.

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<v Speaker 7>The church concept, it's wild up.

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 1>This has been going on three times. I saw a

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 1>church version that they performed the futures percocet. No. I

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know how that works, but it was like the

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Christian version, what's the words?

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 7>I don't know, but holy goes chase to christ fan sense.

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Wait a second, I saw it on Freddie Gibbs his Instagram,

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>So good a minute. This has been going on.

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 5>So they kicked us out, and my mom was like

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 5>to me after that, you don't have to go back

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 5>if you don't want.

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 7>I said, good, because I'm not.

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 5>And essentially I've never really been a fan of going

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 5>back in the building and doing people's versions of events.

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 5>I kind of I'm very spiritual, and you know, I

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 5>would read the Bible and I pray a lot, and

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 5>you know, crystals, and I listened and I'm in chuning

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 5>and blah blah.

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Blah, spiritual, spiritual, so one of those. So did you, Well,

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming I have the same thing that it was

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>hard bringing secular music inside the house. Really my whole life,

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Prince punishments.

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 5>All day, Prince, Like go in your room and listen

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 5>to your headphones under the pillow. I had Jodysy and

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 5>I had like this little like Jodasy was my thing

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 5>in my teens, and I had this little black boom

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 5>box and my bedrooms right next to my mom's and

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 5>my bed was right next to the wall, and I

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 5>would play it, but I would put it under my

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 5>pillow to muffle the sound.

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 7>But that's how I.

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 5>Learned how to do harmonies for real, for real, like

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 5>really meld them stuff listening.

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 1>All right, look, hopefully let them go. If you're conservative

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 1>parents and you're listening to me, I'm shocked. But just

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 1>let your kids listen. They're going to listen anyway, yes,

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>let them, especially if they got their own phones. Now, yeah,

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>it's a rat, so just let him listen. So, so

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>you're saying that by seventeen, it was fine, Well wait,

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 1>because again when I first met you, I met you

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>as an MC. I didn't know you saning, so.

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 7>You're like, what happen?

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let go. I was kind of like wait reaped,

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah this is but yeah, like how did hip hop

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>affect you?

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 7>My uncle was the one that brought in our house,

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 7>and it was like.

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 1>How old was he?

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 7>He was? Uncle? Was young Uncle? He's just turned like.

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Fifty okay and oh thank you.

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 7>Just to fit like he's like you know, but like

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 7>he was a young uncle.

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 5>He was like definitely like out in the streets doing

0:31:56.680 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 5>this thing right, like wait, studs, it's crazy have family.

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>So what kind of was he? Was?

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 7>He playing Daddy Kane all of that era.

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 1>We would call that classic classic.

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so that was his whole thing.

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 5>The one thing I remember he brought that like was

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 5>like my switch onto It was break dancing and we

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 5>used to we used to really break dance as kids,

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 5>like because it was the thing to age right, and

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 5>my mom was like, don't break dance, no more to

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 5>do it was used to like that from break it.

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 7>She like, yo, he broke his neck spinning on his head.

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Before. I don't want to die.

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:39.479
<v Speaker 7>It's like I stopped, and I realized he didn't. But like,

0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 7>you know, she liked me.

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 4>They must have. They must have told that to every

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 4>black parents. Every I heard that one. We didn't have

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 4>insurance back then, but.

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 5>That was my switch into hip hop and like and

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 5>then I just like I just liked it. It was

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 5>like then became cultural as a popular thing. But then

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 5>it became like as I got older, it was like, yo,

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 5>I can really I have a way with putting the

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 5>words together. It's not about poetry for me. It's about

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 5>the rhythm and the rhyme and of it, right. And

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 5>then all my friends were like into it, and then

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.719
<v Speaker 5>like mid to late nineties, I really was doing it,

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 5>Like I.

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 7>Be the only girl in the room.

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 5>We'd be writing songs and I would actually end up

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 5>like finishing off rhymes or writing my own and you know,

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 5>and in friends of just put the verse down, just

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 5>put the verse down, and I was.

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 7>Like, no, I would put the verse down. Did I

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 7>put the verse down? And it became like, well, actually

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 7>I could really do it.

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, And so I did it. Well when you're

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, when you're in the thick of it, you know,

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>is there truly anybody to look up to. Well, first

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>of all, as far as how you get it now,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, because you're in the mid to late nineties,

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming that there's a lot of Tim Westwood. Yeah,

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 1>seven nine, I missed to seven nine. Man, all those guys.

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, you got to explain something to me.

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 1>What was the deal with the So Solid crew?

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 7>So they all right, they were good, they were like.

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 1>The original all right, So they were the originals of them.

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:10.399
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, pretty much. They still the only time.

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, as an American, there's there's a certain amount

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>of arrogance that Americans have, and I guess like being

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 1>over there, like in our mind it was like no

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.760
<v Speaker 1>one could ever threaten you with the accent. That nice.

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>But the guys, you know, like we just like come on,

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:32.719
<v Speaker 1>like little accent.

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 7>That's cute.

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 1>They weren't.

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 7>It wasn't.

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Don't can you settle? Not a rumor? But okay, so

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>we know, at least for that time in the late nineties,

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 1>there were absolutely no firearms. We were told there were

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:54.840
<v Speaker 1>no firearms.

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.399
<v Speaker 6>In the UK, and then still I thought the UK

0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:58.320
<v Speaker 6>is like the most firearms.

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 1>We're so naive so much wait really happened.

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 6>Because we was like mode on the eye gun control

0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 6>because the police, the police.

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:12.720
<v Speaker 7>Don't have guns. Oh, let's stay there.

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Ok, I never knew that.

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 7>It's always been okay.

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>So we heard a rumor that our beloved Westwood got shot.

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Asked by a member of that crew, I.

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 7>Can neither confirmdi deny who did.

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 1>No one will ever tell the story of why or

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>if that happened.

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 7>It's like, you have to understand, that was the.

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Realist hip hop shit ever heard coming out of London.

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:41.880
<v Speaker 1>That was it was real and he was kind of

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.360
<v Speaker 1>and I almost felt like it was a badge of

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:46.919
<v Speaker 1>honor for him. Yep, like I got shot, So.

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 7>I'm still here. You gotta understand why did he gets shot?

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Tim Westwood is the figure from BBC that really brought

0:35:56.160 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of classic hip hop. He was the funk

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:01.239
<v Speaker 1>master Flex of the UK. He's the voice that you

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:04.840
<v Speaker 1>hear on top of Public Enemy's classic It takes the

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 1>nation of millions to hold us back. Fresh Start of

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:10.479
<v Speaker 1>the Week was the name of his his show.

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 6>So he also was a whites man just in case people,

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 6>yes he's a yes.

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I mean, but I mean he was a

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 1>pioneer source of bringing those shows over and I guess,

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 1>like you know, with how pirate radio was in the UK,

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of offspring, so like cats, like when I

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>did two seven nine, that was a pirate radio show,

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>but it was like a real operation, like the room

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 1>we're in right now. It wasn't like at that point

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 1>it was the government tire shutting them down and they're

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 1>just like here, keep here, keep going.

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 7>And then it became choice, and then in choice of

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:48.439
<v Speaker 7>family moved on to choice.

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 1>It was nice two seven nines legit Now seven.

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 7>Nine has been the ja I feel like he's a

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 7>kiss so he was a kiss man.

0:36:54.400 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 5>He sold everybody, did everybody listen? It's no games, but

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 5>put it in its context too, No, I'm trying to

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:10.399
<v Speaker 5>put so solid and the vibe. So if you got

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 5>hip hop, hip hop, hip hop, which was two seven

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 5>nine in Westwood, then it became this shift when all

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 5>the music became mixed up right, and then because they

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:21.440
<v Speaker 5>couldn't quite get a hold on hip hop, it was

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 5>like that's not the new thing coming out. You had

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 5>all these labels investing in new thing, which is garage, right,

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:29.840
<v Speaker 5>which is this huge scene that was blowing up that

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 5>wasn't hip hop, that wasn't UK hip hop.

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 7>That wasn't like after after establishment the labels.

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 5>And so so solid was that, but So Solid was real,

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:41.919
<v Speaker 5>we're real dudes, Like they were like out there, some.

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 7>Of them were really out there. There's a couple of them.

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:46.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right still still.

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 5>So like you know, like it was a it was

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 5>a very oh you guys think this is for fun,

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 5>but like you're investing in real humans and real life scenarios.

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 7>So also that.

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:58.000
<v Speaker 1>But I don't want to pain him as them all

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 1>unreally thust because Greg David also came.

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 5>From they came from that scene, but he wasn't in

0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:05.759
<v Speaker 5>So Solid no parts he was before So Solid, but

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 5>like they were all kind of after the two seven

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:10.880
<v Speaker 5>nine and and like Rodney p and like I was

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 5>even in that more that scene than I was in

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 5>the garage side and stuff. Like I was really like rapid,

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 5>like I was in the ciphers. I was like doing

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 5>the real uh.

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:22.759
<v Speaker 1>So all those names at the time that I saw,

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 1>like uh miss Dynamite or Dizzy Rask.

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 5>The street they came at the end of like the

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 5>hit UK hip hop side of stuff, and they really

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 5>ushered in that whole new garage side.

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 7>That's what it was.

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 5>That's what they came all right before so solid and

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 5>then so Solid. It was came in like Wu Tang.

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 5>It was patterned on hip hop, but it was just

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 5>a different kind of sound.

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:46.799
<v Speaker 1>So did you ever think in your life that there

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>would be a breakthrough, because again, like with the culture

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:53.919
<v Speaker 1>that they had, even I was like when German Vase

0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:55.959
<v Speaker 1>first came out, I was like, yo, this is gonna kill.

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 1>That's why we did it. When you Got Me, like

0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna beat everybody, and even classic we tried, and

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 1>even with well then when Bombs over back Then came

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 1>out and you know that was Andre's version of they

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:14.439
<v Speaker 1>went to a club one night, I heard let's do that,

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:20.280
<v Speaker 1>But I never thought.

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:22.880
<v Speaker 5>I was yeah, because I'm here, I hear you Got Me,

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:25.920
<v Speaker 5>and everybody knows what that is. People hear bombs and

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 5>people know it, but they don't like rocket difference between.

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 1>If You Got Me and Bombs over back Then, it's

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 1>like like two pages. There were four hero versus.

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:39.400
<v Speaker 4>Uh zero for versus like something from metal Heads. You know,

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:41.840
<v Speaker 4>it's like, okay, it's completely different. It's the same gundre,

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 4>completely different sides of this.

0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 6>Plus you just teased us anyway, I've been waiting for

0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 6>the continuation of what that you just teased us with

0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:53.360
<v Speaker 6>the end of you Got Me, you know, you know

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:57.399
<v Speaker 6>the I'm just saying, we are still waiting for the red.

0:39:57.600 --> 0:39:59.760
<v Speaker 5>But but when you do things like that, though, especially

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 5>is like it's such a jungle for us. Was our thing,

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:06.359
<v Speaker 5>Like I'm going to that after school. I'm like, I'm

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 5>playing that all throughout school.

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 7>I might here like.

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:11.880
<v Speaker 5>Jungleist, amout here losing my mind as a kid, Like

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 5>that's our thing. Wherever we go in the world, that's

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:18.320
<v Speaker 5>our thing. So when we heard like, oh shit, it's

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 5>on the roots, did like we lost our mortal minds,

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:25.800
<v Speaker 5>Like it was just because people would come take the

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 5>music and not give it props. But you guys were

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 5>there and like you got people that people loved, like

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:35.839
<v Speaker 5>I'm opening up for you, Like it was like, nah,

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 5>they embraced us. It's not on some we came in

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 5>to get the vibes and go back, like you guys

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:43.240
<v Speaker 5>spent time with us and our culture.

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:46.240
<v Speaker 7>So it was like respect we liked to Today.

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I miss it, so like why do you Well, obviously

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>the answer is that the internet has now localized. Okay,

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 1>well I'm saying do you feel as though the Internet

0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:04.759
<v Speaker 1>had as colonized in a bad way? Yes, colonized well,

0:41:05.320 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 1>and do you feel like the internet has colonized UK culture?

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:11.799
<v Speaker 1>Because I mean the good news of it is now

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 1>you are all breakout stars and the world can get

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:22.320
<v Speaker 1>the information at the same time, whereas like there's no breakout,

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>there's no But I also feel bad for like, like, okay,

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 1>take miss Dynamite. Remember there was so much hope for

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 1>her to be like, oh my god, this is gonna

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:34.799
<v Speaker 1>be the next Laurene Hill and blah blah blah, and

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:36.880
<v Speaker 1>it never happened.

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:39.280
<v Speaker 5>There were other things behind the scenes that with that though,

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:41.399
<v Speaker 5>like it it's real life and it's a culture thing

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:43.399
<v Speaker 5>and you have to make a choice. And I don't

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 5>know her personally in that space to say, well she

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 5>chose blah blah blah or she did this, but you know,

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 5>people give up on what they don't when you don't

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 5>fit into a mold or you don't fit into what

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 5>they think, you know, So there was stuff with.

0:41:56.920 --> 0:42:00.120
<v Speaker 1>It, you mean, the audience of the artists, the audience.

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:02.360
<v Speaker 5>And the labels, you know, like she wasn't probably going

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 5>to do a certain amount of things you know, and

0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 5>she had a kid bang in the middle, and at

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 5>that point that wasn't the excuse. But I'm saying like,

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 5>because look, I walk into a room after her right

0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:15.240
<v Speaker 5>after it to get signed, and I can up front.

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 7>Someone literally said to me, well, we're just working with

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:22.279
<v Speaker 7>and she and looked at me like I can't take

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:22.880
<v Speaker 7>that risk.

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 8>And I was just like, really, I don't have a

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:29.799
<v Speaker 8>boyfriend about to say get Rightnant said us was hurt

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.719
<v Speaker 8>about that, and I was just like, you got the

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 8>last word wild, how about it.

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 4>It's safe to say everybody in this room has heard

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 4>Amy Hye House's debut album, Frank Yeah. I was working

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 4>at Universal when that album was out here in the

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 4>United States and it was supposed to come out here

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 4>and they took it off the schedule because they didn't

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 4>know what to do with it.

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 7>Crazy.

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, it didn't really feel like it was a

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 1>hard cell. You just listened to the record sounds.

0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 7>Like me to hit and roots records and radio. I

0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 7>likes anything different the record in that time.

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 4>But the thing is like anybody, like anybody I played

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 4>that record for like they're like, oh, what is who

0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:07.799
<v Speaker 4>is that?

0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 1>What is that? Did most people don't know about Frank.

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Most people think like to back it for good contention.

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:17.439
<v Speaker 1>People thought that that was like her debut. So when

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:21.799
<v Speaker 1>you're making uh, well, okay, what were the steps that

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:24.799
<v Speaker 1>led to uh the eighteenth.

0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:27.800
<v Speaker 7>Day my first album? I okay?

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:31.399
<v Speaker 5>So I took the example. I've been in underground arts

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:33.080
<v Speaker 5>for my whole life. I've been like an independent on

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 5>underground arts for.

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 7>My whole life.

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:37.239
<v Speaker 5>And I was the girl that was like, I'm gonna

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 5>go make these records. I'm gonna go find a distribution deal.

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 5>And I read this book by yourself. Yep, no manager, I.

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:44.319
<v Speaker 7>Know at the time.

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:47.960
<v Speaker 5>I've had I've had managers, but I would direct them.

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:51.240
<v Speaker 7>I'm very much the king of my castle.

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I direct and I listened, and I pay attention,

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 5>and I work with people who are incredible. But I'm

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 5>very much an instant gut person. So I was like, man,

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 5>look these people out here. Every time we go to

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:05.440
<v Speaker 5>a label, they keep talking about we don't know what

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:07.839
<v Speaker 5>to do, so let's show them.

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 7>And I was like, well, let's go get these distribution deals.

0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 5>And so I had the one. I went to it.

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:14.279
<v Speaker 5>I went to a bunch of labels. They were like, we

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 5>don't know. I said, cool, I'm gonna sure you what

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 5>to do. Got my distribution deal. We sold five thousand

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 5>hands to hand and also like digitally and like not

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:23.760
<v Speaker 5>digitally but like on the internet.

0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 7>At the time, right we were sending like one.

0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:27.399
<v Speaker 5>Or two CDs a week, which was great at the time,

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:30.799
<v Speaker 5>and then around Europe and the UK, but also five

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 5>thousand within a month. After going to the labels and

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 5>them saying we don't know what to do, had a

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 5>really dope publicist and she put me on every magazine

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 5>you could find a couple of covers where they were

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 5>struggling to get their artists and I had no deal.

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:44.840
<v Speaker 7>It was just me and my me and my label Stellards.

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:48.400
<v Speaker 1>What what happened so that the whole time we were together,

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:50.960
<v Speaker 1>you was you were too short out the trunk.

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:57.560
<v Speaker 5>Out and then and then and then the next set,

0:44:57.840 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 5>the next set of times. I definitely was like on

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:02.799
<v Speaker 5>V two and the same person that was like I

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 5>don't get it, was like, I guess I should sign you.

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:08.440
<v Speaker 5>I was like, just so we did the deal, and

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 5>even throughout that whole period he was looking at me like,

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 5>so that record free you wrote it.

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:14.280
<v Speaker 7>I had to get the producer on the phone.

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:17.399
<v Speaker 5>The disrespect was so thick and so real about young

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:20.759
<v Speaker 5>black artists. You could have possibly written a record that

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:23.760
<v Speaker 5>thorough off your own head and off your own heart

0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 5>because you're a little black girl from the hood.

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 7>How like you guys don't do that.

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:29.200
<v Speaker 5>It was that that kind of I called the producer

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:30.960
<v Speaker 5>and I said, so, did you write any of the

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 5>words or Melody said no, I just play guitar, I said,

0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 5>and I put a phone now, And this guy was

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 5>so angry and mortified and like we just go out

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 5>of his way to stop everything with the second album.

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:43.080
<v Speaker 5>And that's when I know, how did you get.

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:44.799
<v Speaker 7>Even get to the thirteenth eighteenth day?

0:45:45.080 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 1>No, but how did you even get James and Omar?

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:49.719
<v Speaker 1>And you got John Legend on the first record?

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:55.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? I just I was recording Hi Hello.

0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:59.239
<v Speaker 7>The Kanye story is real, like I really did.

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:01.760
<v Speaker 4>I was in La recording and I love that story

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 4>because because I mean, now, Kanye being who he is,

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, you would think that was a Kanye move.

0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:06.839
<v Speaker 7>It's a different gun.

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it was a different Kanye than but you

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:10.719
<v Speaker 4>would think, you know, now, knowing who Kanye is, you

0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:12.440
<v Speaker 4>would go up and ask for you know Kanye's inflation,

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:13.759
<v Speaker 4>but you went up and ask for John Legend?

0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:16.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because his voice is incredible, And I was I

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:18.200
<v Speaker 5>get I get my instinct again, right.

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 7>I was like, na, this guy's voice.

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:20.359
<v Speaker 1>I think.

0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:22.239
<v Speaker 5>My boyfriend at time was like, if you don't just

0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:24.400
<v Speaker 5>go find this guy because you just out here smiling.

0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:26.640
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's cute and all, but like also like

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 5>I was like, no, I have to find him.

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:29.960
<v Speaker 7>And then it was just fading.

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:32.319
<v Speaker 6>Did you know about his education at the time, And like,

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:34.360
<v Speaker 6>I have a feeling that has a lot to do

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:35.040
<v Speaker 6>with his success.

0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:37.040
<v Speaker 5>So that's why I was like, John's a smart guy,

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 5>but also he's he's the same thing. He's instinct to

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 5>a degree, you know. And we met traveling and I

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 5>was like, yo, I was finding all this is lovely.

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:47.080
<v Speaker 5>We're in Record Plant in l A. And I'm like, yo,

0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 5>I've got like two dollars to my name to get

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:51.399
<v Speaker 5>back to the hotel. Can we wrap this up type deal?

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:53.080
<v Speaker 5>Like I have to leave in a couple of hours,

0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 5>And he was. He was there and we connected up

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:58.840
<v Speaker 5>and I left and he was like, yeah, I just

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:00.799
<v Speaker 5>like your drive and the fact that you didn't come

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:03.480
<v Speaker 5>in here giving a crap about a yeay or whoever's

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:04.759
<v Speaker 5>in the studio is like, no, I came to find

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:07.400
<v Speaker 5>you to do this record that I have pre recorded

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:09.560
<v Speaker 5>vocals and lyrics to. Can you sing this pop please?

0:47:10.320 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 5>And he was like live me here, and I was like,

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:13.560
<v Speaker 5>I gave it to him, blade it. I was like,

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:15.160
<v Speaker 5>listen to your own time, all right. I had a

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:17.640
<v Speaker 5>hard drive and everything. I remember it cost so much money.

0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 5>I gave him the hard drive.

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:22.279
<v Speaker 7>I was so tight, the whole hard drive terrabike. No,

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:26.400
<v Speaker 7>I don't know. And then like I left and he

0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 7>called me. He was like, yeah, it's good. It's good, dude.

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I've known you forever. I never knew the film and

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Louise ending the card jump that it took. Damn dude,

0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 1>how come I never did that story.

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:44.720
<v Speaker 6>I don't have to stop time to stop and talk.

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:46.680
<v Speaker 7>For real, write a book about all these moments.

0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:47.240
<v Speaker 1>But like.

0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:51.839
<v Speaker 5>This has been my whole I don't I don't wait

0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:54.759
<v Speaker 5>for the opening. I'll just push through the door, you know.

0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 5>If I feel the instinct, it's like go go, go,

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 5>go go, you know.

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 1>So even then, I mean, I'm almost certain it was

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 1>just just to get to above water level was a goal.

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Not even to like it wasn't even he I'm gonna

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:13.600
<v Speaker 1>really kill this game and da da da da da.

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:15.560
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, by the time you get to the

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:17.880
<v Speaker 1>second record, what are you thinking.

0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 5>By the time we got to Shine, I was grateful

0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:23.879
<v Speaker 5>for John in a way that like people, you know what,

0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:25.200
<v Speaker 5>I'm this person.

0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:27.160
<v Speaker 7>Very loyal, I don't care what.

0:48:28.040 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 5>John stuck his neck out for me without thinking, like

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:36.960
<v Speaker 5>everybody that is rare mine and everybody in his team

0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 5>at the time was like what is this Like it

0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:43.959
<v Speaker 5>was smoothie Like they dissed me to my face, like.

0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 7>I mean, you don't know Aretha like that. I know Aretha.

0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 7>I'm just not an Aretha singer.

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:52.480
<v Speaker 5>Like and it was like a lot of different shots

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:54.600
<v Speaker 5>at me because I was supposed to be this kind

0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 5>of black girl and I come and rapping and singing

0:48:57.160 --> 0:49:00.160
<v Speaker 5>and out of a smoother voice and I'm confident and

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:01.840
<v Speaker 5>you're not gonna tell me nothing. I came here with

0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:04.240
<v Speaker 5>lubatons and I came here with my with my fashion

0:49:04.520 --> 0:49:05.240
<v Speaker 5>on my vibes.

0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 7>You feel me else.

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:20.120
<v Speaker 5>I was very much like I'm not going to give

0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:22.440
<v Speaker 5>you all those facts, but like also I'm not going

0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 5>to take it to heart. I'm just gonna do what

0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:26.960
<v Speaker 5>I came here to do. And and a lot of

0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:29.040
<v Speaker 5>people shout him like why you sign her, Like this

0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:31.279
<v Speaker 5>doesn't make no sense, this is a terrible investment, blah

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:34.960
<v Speaker 5>blah blah blah blah. And he was like, I've seen her,

0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 5>I've seen her work, I've seen a girl.

0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:39.240
<v Speaker 7>Trust me. I'm just here for the ride. He literally

0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:41.839
<v Speaker 7>was saying it to me like, look, if we don't

0:49:41.960 --> 0:49:44.239
<v Speaker 7>need to work together in ten years, please live your

0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:46.480
<v Speaker 7>best life. And essentially we did.

0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:48.600
<v Speaker 5>But you know, but he stuck his neck out for

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:51.360
<v Speaker 5>me in a way that is unprecedented, and I'm forever

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:54.920
<v Speaker 5>grateful because I went to the label that were like nah,

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:58.759
<v Speaker 5>and then like I guess I should sign you. And

0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:02.760
<v Speaker 5>I said to them, after like the first two meetings

0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:04.920
<v Speaker 5>of like, you don't really do this, it's a lie.

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:06.359
<v Speaker 7>Go find your ghost writer.

0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 5>I said to them, So look, next album I have

0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:14.160
<v Speaker 5>John Legends he wants to except produce it. He won

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:17.319
<v Speaker 5>about five hundred Grammys. This guy is touring out the world.

0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:19.840
<v Speaker 5>These albums gold at this point in the UK, Europe

0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:22.239
<v Speaker 5>and the whole world. And they said to me, who's that?

0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:25.080
<v Speaker 5>And I wanted to punch the wall. I said let

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 5>me go. I said let me go, and they were

0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:30.080
<v Speaker 5>like what I said, no, let me go, Please let

0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:32.239
<v Speaker 5>me go. And then he was like, I said to him,

0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:34.800
<v Speaker 5>so the second album, id ast you to exact produce,

0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to leave the label. He was like, I'll

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:42.719
<v Speaker 5>sign you. I said, you sure. He's like, yeah, all right, come.

0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:46.719
<v Speaker 1>On, this guy never happens like that, never accepting a case.

0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:50.680
<v Speaker 7>Are you the only release from that? I'm like, wait

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 7>a minute.

0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 7>He set the label up to put me out John.

0:50:56.360 --> 0:50:59.920
<v Speaker 5>School Record, John Jon's a G for that.

0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:02.160
<v Speaker 7>People don't know that part, so everyone thinks it's the

0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:03.640
<v Speaker 7>A but it's John.

0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Wow. He did.

0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:07.399
<v Speaker 5>He did a lot as far as having my back

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:09.840
<v Speaker 5>and just support me and not really taking the credit.

0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:12.000
<v Speaker 5>As far as like you know, where people like, oh,

0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 5>people say, oh he wrote this, and he wrote that

0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:15.960
<v Speaker 5>for He's like, he's not the one out there shouting it.

0:51:16.080 --> 0:51:18.840
<v Speaker 7>People make up their assumptions. You know. He lets me,

0:51:19.160 --> 0:51:21.280
<v Speaker 7>he knows, he knows my capabilities and stuff.

0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:22.960
<v Speaker 5>Have y'all reconnected, So now that y'all live in the

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:24.920
<v Speaker 5>same town, I seen him. I see him around like

0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:27.279
<v Speaker 5>we call I'm good friends with the team. We're still

0:51:27.320 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 5>get like that's family.

0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, true, true to how music history works. I

0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:38.400
<v Speaker 1>believe that I've heard the story before. The legend of

0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:40.880
<v Speaker 1>American Boy was that was it the last song made

0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:43.319
<v Speaker 1>and it's just like an afterthought it was.

0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:45.360
<v Speaker 7>Will didn't believe that the record was a hit, like

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:46.680
<v Speaker 7>the music was a hit.

0:51:47.200 --> 0:51:50.400
<v Speaker 5>Because it came from yeah, right, he said, He's like,

0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:52.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't think that's I said, trust me, this is

0:51:52.920 --> 0:51:54.839
<v Speaker 5>what we listened to our own this is this is it,

0:51:54.880 --> 0:51:55.399
<v Speaker 5>this is it.

0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:57.759
<v Speaker 7>And I was literally on the beach in Miami and

0:51:58.080 --> 0:52:01.280
<v Speaker 7>song it was BB Records.

0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:04.239
<v Speaker 1>It it was the Interscope the Songs about Girls, the

0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:04.960
<v Speaker 1>one that nobody.

0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:08.560
<v Speaker 7>B b in the UK. Yeah, in the UK.

0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 4>It came out on Interscope here Songs about Girls, Yeah,

0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:15.279
<v Speaker 4>the one that at least nobody here really did.

0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:17.839
<v Speaker 1>They had a couple of joints on when you said,

0:52:18.320 --> 0:52:20.680
<v Speaker 1>rhyme over that beat or I want to.

0:52:20.640 --> 0:52:23.879
<v Speaker 5>Sing over We wrote it like three minutes. I woke

0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:27.799
<v Speaker 5>with it the next day an hour and then and

0:52:27.880 --> 0:52:30.880
<v Speaker 5>then but that every time we played it to people,

0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:35.520
<v Speaker 5>that energy would just shoot up, like it was it

0:52:35.600 --> 0:52:38.239
<v Speaker 5>was like palpable sitting in the room played the record,

0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:40.120
<v Speaker 5>everyone was like, oh vibes.

0:52:40.400 --> 0:52:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was going to say that probably American Boy

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:49.360
<v Speaker 1>is probably one of the few songs in this millennium

0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:51.680
<v Speaker 1>now that we at least have two decades under our belt,

0:52:52.040 --> 0:52:57.680
<v Speaker 1>not the age of saw too late. No, especially with

0:52:57.719 --> 0:53:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the especially the way that information happens and like one

0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:06.880
<v Speaker 1>song just instantly replaces another song without you know, I mean,

0:53:06.920 --> 0:53:09.240
<v Speaker 1>you remember how many times you've heard Crazy bout Nols

0:53:09.239 --> 0:53:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Barkley when it first came out. It's sort of like

0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:15.160
<v Speaker 1>you might hear it now, but it's almost like I

0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:19.799
<v Speaker 1>feel like maybe American Boy next to Crazy and Love,

0:53:19.920 --> 0:53:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Like that's one of the songs that won't ever die.

0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:26.799
<v Speaker 1>I it's still on my DJ set right now.

0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:29.400
<v Speaker 6>Somebody just made a remix on I just I was like,

0:53:29.440 --> 0:53:30.680
<v Speaker 6>they still make your remixes still.

0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:34.280
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's about about three in the past two years.

0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:37.160
<v Speaker 1>TAM's joint. Yeah, I was about to say, like that.

0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:39.440
<v Speaker 5>They trap it out, they put it on TikTok Live

0:53:39.440 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 5>your Best Life, that's what we want.

0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid to go there.

0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:46.840
<v Speaker 7>Foolishness is amazing.

0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:49.640
<v Speaker 1>But I gotta go there to know what what song

0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:50.320
<v Speaker 1>to play.

0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:56.359
<v Speaker 4>To play, you know, Taken My Life Back, No, more

0:53:56.400 --> 0:53:58.520
<v Speaker 4>social media for me jealous?

0:53:59.000 --> 0:54:02.080
<v Speaker 1>So was it ever a point where it's like tiring,

0:54:02.480 --> 0:54:07.799
<v Speaker 1>like again, like, are you somewhere between Nirvana smells like

0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:10.879
<v Speaker 1>teen Spirit where they refuse to do it now and day?

0:54:11.000 --> 0:54:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I saw where me and myself and I where they

0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:15.200
<v Speaker 1>just sing we hate the song all over the things

0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:18.560
<v Speaker 1>like is it that? Or you're just like nope, I

0:54:18.600 --> 0:54:19.840
<v Speaker 1>know where my bread is buttered.

0:54:19.840 --> 0:54:21.400
<v Speaker 7>And I had to reset.

0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:24.600
<v Speaker 5>I had records in the UK that people will never

0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:27.600
<v Speaker 5>not let me perform, like that's ninety eighty for me

0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:30.200
<v Speaker 5>and to the point where.

0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:34.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we were down what you said ninety eight?

0:54:34.400 --> 0:54:36.440
<v Speaker 7>I'm just like, do you know the words? Because I do?

0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:40.320
<v Speaker 7>To the second person, are I've forgetting?

0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:44.640
<v Speaker 5>There's so many words in my head, so many my head.

0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:47.320
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna have a telepromt the fifty five. It is gonna,

0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:48.640
<v Speaker 5>it's gonna happen.

0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:52.239
<v Speaker 7>But he did. I had to.

0:54:52.360 --> 0:54:57.239
<v Speaker 5>I had to reset my energy with that because I

0:54:57.440 --> 0:55:01.000
<v Speaker 5>literally pray for records like that no and I got one,

0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:02.719
<v Speaker 5>and I was like, how dare I be ungrateful and

0:55:02.760 --> 0:55:03.799
<v Speaker 5>saying I don't want to sing it?

0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:05.240
<v Speaker 7>And it makes me happy?

0:55:05.360 --> 0:55:07.600
<v Speaker 5>There's so many ways to sing that record and like

0:55:07.840 --> 0:55:10.319
<v Speaker 5>sometimes I don't say it too and then you have

0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:10.840
<v Speaker 5>to consider that.

0:55:11.840 --> 0:55:17.480
<v Speaker 7>Then I'm saying genuine that that's my new reference. He said,

0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:18.759
<v Speaker 7>if you're.

0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Lord, this is amazing. They sing everything everywhere.

0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:30.440
<v Speaker 7>He just why, I'm just.

0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:43.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm the one in the back screaming, look by me.

0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:48.880
<v Speaker 7>It's me genuine Hi. That was this is terrible.

0:55:48.920 --> 0:56:01.400
<v Speaker 5>I was twelve singing something related to say.

0:55:54.760 --> 0:56:01.440
<v Speaker 1>That related to I'm a character on Parks and rec

0:56:01.560 --> 0:56:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much, and genuine is me and Redda's

0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:12.160
<v Speaker 1>first cousin. That's revealed in the last episode show. Yes,

0:56:12.560 --> 0:56:17.080
<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, you don't watch.

0:56:18.400 --> 0:56:19.880
<v Speaker 7>I didn't know what's still parks.

0:56:21.680 --> 0:56:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Everywhere. It's the mood tang of comedy.

0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:25.600
<v Speaker 7>I know everybody came from there.

0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:28.719
<v Speaker 1>It's one of the best. Yes, but one of the

0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:33.080
<v Speaker 1>longest running running jokes was about her long lost brother,

0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:38.240
<v Speaker 1>which they had me play. That's genuine is her first cousin.

0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:39.839
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, she's on a Netflix show.

0:56:40.200 --> 0:56:42.640
<v Speaker 1>That's right, Yes, exactly, genuine.

0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:46.600
<v Speaker 7>I'm going to go watch. Thank you. It's amazing.

0:56:46.960 --> 0:57:02.200
<v Speaker 1>It's shout out to my first cousine, Elgin Lumpkins for

0:57:02.640 --> 0:57:09.719
<v Speaker 1>all of me, which, okay, slight side note, I'll admit it,

0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:14.560
<v Speaker 1>because Bill's like, you fake motherfucker. You know, I forgot

0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:18.840
<v Speaker 1>about the interlude. I totally forgot about that. So even

0:57:18.880 --> 0:57:26.000
<v Speaker 1>in reuh capping your music, I was like, oh, ship,

0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I totally forgot about that. What was your what was

0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:32.480
<v Speaker 1>your What was the impetus or at least the process

0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:33.760
<v Speaker 1>in creating this record?

0:57:33.920 --> 0:57:37.120
<v Speaker 5>I was going through a lot, you got. I was

0:57:37.120 --> 0:57:40.560
<v Speaker 5>coming off of like Shine the American boy. All of my

0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:42.400
<v Speaker 5>worlds were completely shifting. And I say that in the

0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:48.560
<v Speaker 5>nicest way. Friends with Wilent. I was Wilent boyfriends.

0:57:51.160 --> 0:57:52.240
<v Speaker 1>What is that whirlwind?

0:57:52.440 --> 0:57:55.840
<v Speaker 5>Like you're not on the ground and you're trying to

0:57:55.960 --> 0:57:59.560
<v Speaker 5>desperately hold onto the ground that you know, because like

0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:01.520
<v Speaker 5>moving it out from under you anyway.

0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:04.400
<v Speaker 1>And with nine siblings also, how does that affect you? Oh?

0:58:04.600 --> 0:58:05.200
<v Speaker 7>It was wild?

0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:07.920
<v Speaker 5>Like my little sister. My family moved out of London

0:58:07.960 --> 0:58:12.280
<v Speaker 5>because so my little sister, one of them was so hyped.

0:58:12.320 --> 0:58:14.280
<v Speaker 5>It was just it was unsettling for them. And that's

0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:17.320
<v Speaker 5>when I realized, I say it to people, to your success.

0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I got siblings too.

0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:19.520
<v Speaker 7>Not on purpose.

0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:21.760
<v Speaker 5>One of them got a little whild with it and

0:58:21.760 --> 0:58:23.200
<v Speaker 5>then we had to move the whole Then the whole

0:58:23.240 --> 0:58:26.440
<v Speaker 5>family moved because it was like taking my stuff to

0:58:26.440 --> 0:58:29.240
<v Speaker 5>school and to do the school thing, and like all

0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:33.280
<v Speaker 5>my sisters this, and people liking you for the trainers

0:58:33.280 --> 0:58:36.000
<v Speaker 5>you wore or you brought that your sister's trainers, and

0:58:36.040 --> 0:58:39.040
<v Speaker 5>then news people creeping up around my family house. We

0:58:39.120 --> 0:58:41.400
<v Speaker 5>still sort of lived in the hood a bit and

0:58:41.560 --> 0:58:43.760
<v Speaker 5>going to the drug dealers two doors down and talking

0:58:43.880 --> 0:58:46.120
<v Speaker 5>and I was like, my littlest brother, who's an account

0:58:46.160 --> 0:58:49.160
<v Speaker 5>and a lawyer and an incredible brilliant young man, had

0:58:49.200 --> 0:58:50.400
<v Speaker 5>to go up there and be a big gangster, and

0:58:50.440 --> 0:58:55.520
<v Speaker 5>it's just like, nah, that's my actual family I raised,

0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:59.840
<v Speaker 5>and nah, you know, so I'm dealing with that whilst

0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:02.680
<v Speaker 5>never be in the home and the people that you're

0:59:02.680 --> 0:59:05.280
<v Speaker 5>trying to call your family were out here just not

0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:05.959
<v Speaker 5>having your back.

0:59:06.000 --> 0:59:08.400
<v Speaker 7>It was just a lot going on during the all

0:59:08.480 --> 0:59:09.080
<v Speaker 7>of Me period.

0:59:09.320 --> 0:59:13.600
<v Speaker 5>And then I'm dating a dude who was just wildly trash.

0:59:13.680 --> 0:59:15.760
<v Speaker 1>We all are trash, no, not all of you.

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:17.960
<v Speaker 7>He was used to start out that way, you know,

0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:19.520
<v Speaker 7>ten years ago he was trash.

0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:22.840
<v Speaker 5>So here we are, uh, almost ten years ago, and

0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:25.680
<v Speaker 5>I was going through a lot and trying to just

0:59:25.720 --> 0:59:27.960
<v Speaker 5>hold onto something that looked like love or looked like

0:59:28.000 --> 0:59:30.480
<v Speaker 5>home and it was all needed to go.

0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Is it hard navigating that? Ol? You know, I know

0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:37.760
<v Speaker 1>that where most people either had is their home, but

0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean you moved to the States and kind of

0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:48.320
<v Speaker 1>without any stable family. Well, I don't know. For some people,

0:59:48.480 --> 0:59:52.400
<v Speaker 1>getting away from the family might be the necessary.

0:59:53.520 --> 0:59:55.800
<v Speaker 5>No, it wasn't necessary more than I just knew I

0:59:55.800 --> 0:59:58.280
<v Speaker 5>had to do that for my career because it was

0:59:58.320 --> 1:00:01.120
<v Speaker 5>like I one, it was just tiring every three months

1:00:01.240 --> 1:00:04.800
<v Speaker 5>getting on the flight and your energy just is up

1:00:04.840 --> 1:00:08.720
<v Speaker 5>and down, right, you know that toured extensively, Yeah, for

1:00:08.720 --> 1:00:11.120
<v Speaker 5>a very long time, and so I imagine doing that

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<v Speaker 5>and then everyone demands all this stuff of you. So

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, I'm just gonna move there. My mom

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<v Speaker 5>was like, I knew it was gonna happen. Eventually, they

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<v Speaker 5>helped me. They sent me off and they would try

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<v Speaker 5>and come and visit, and then the visits dwindled, and

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<v Speaker 5>then I was never home so it didn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 5>And then I would go home to London and I

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<v Speaker 5>couldn't go home, and so they come and see me

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<v Speaker 5>at the hotel for two hours right before I go

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<v Speaker 5>to the to the airport again. And it was just

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<v Speaker 5>like I lost touch per se, not on purpose, but

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<v Speaker 5>by force of we.

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<v Speaker 7>Just didn't have the time.

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<v Speaker 5>So it would be like I was so grateful for

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<v Speaker 5>the hotel suites that I had because the whole.

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<v Speaker 7>Family could come.

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<v Speaker 5>I come crash and I just got to sit down

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<v Speaker 5>and my mom would bring African food and we would

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<v Speaker 5>sit down. Yeah, right, and the whole vibe and they

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<v Speaker 5>were gone, and I have to go back to being

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<v Speaker 5>a stellar ro.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know, there's a lot happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, there's a question I do have that I'm probably

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<v Speaker 1>certain I wouldn't be able to ask had you come

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<v Speaker 1>on the show a year ago. Now you're dealing with Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>where when we say the fuckery that is this current administration,

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<v Speaker 1>you're actually dealing with this two times over. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>so what is what is the not not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>def Con five or whatever, but what's the current concern

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<v Speaker 1>of yours or level of fear concern when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to you traveling overseas or your family coming over here

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<v Speaker 1>or you Because I see where this is about to

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<v Speaker 1>go if Old Money gets a second term in office. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean two weeks ago, there's there's been nine other

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<v Speaker 1>countries added and all them from Africa because of.

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<v Speaker 7>The year the return you think, wow, you really think that.

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<v Speaker 7>I believes Gana added to that.

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<v Speaker 5>No, but because they have other deals with different US countries.

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<v Speaker 5>But I feel like it was just the idea. Here's

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<v Speaker 5>my thing that I've seen you give the energy of

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<v Speaker 5>you scare people, You make them feel like you know

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<v Speaker 5>what I mean, and that is that does more for

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<v Speaker 5>people's energy than people's perception of what's going on than.

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<v Speaker 7>The actual thing, you know what I mean? And I think.

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<v Speaker 5>Ye, And it's like the fear of like, oh well,

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<v Speaker 5>now it's gonna like can we really go there? But meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 5>the energy at the top of it was like, we

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<v Speaker 5>can do this. It's not as crazy as what.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's travel been hard for you coming in and

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<v Speaker 1>out of the States, like like longer at.

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<v Speaker 5>The as soon as I saw that going I actually

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<v Speaker 5>wouldn't apply for my passport.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I have dual citizenship, okay.

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<v Speaker 5>So like because I was like, nah, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 5>all my things are here, so let.

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<v Speaker 7>Me make sure I'm good on both sides of the

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<v Speaker 7>of the of the war. Your family's passports, says Britain

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<v Speaker 7>on Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>But the beautiful thing is we also, like I said,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm very clear, so to your citizenships there we have salive'

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<v Speaker 5>seing the own passports.

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<v Speaker 7>We have different we could go.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they've done We've done smart things, strategically smart.

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<v Speaker 5>My brother and sisters I love them for this. They're

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<v Speaker 5>very smart about how they handle themselves. And I'm proud

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<v Speaker 5>of them and that, you know, they really hold their

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<v Speaker 5>side of family thing. They don't look at me like

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<v Speaker 5>you got to do. You know, they really are brilliant

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<v Speaker 5>in their own rights. So I'm proud of them. They

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<v Speaker 5>hold it down.

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<v Speaker 1>Five passports, never going to jail.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, how about that take the heart that's too heart. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not a game because people, he's wild. This guy's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So now now that we are where we are, and

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<v Speaker 1>well the afore mentioned twenty one Savage being one of

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<v Speaker 1>the one of the biggest UK I'm not. I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>like like, oh wait, you're just finding out.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, No, like like whatever I found out.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly so well, I'm just saying that it's you big.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, how do you feel about the current climate

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<v Speaker 1>of today's artists that are coming from the UK and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the.

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<v Speaker 7>I love it.

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<v Speaker 5>I would love to see more of them actually do

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<v Speaker 5>the effective work here though. Okay, Like, besides the big

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<v Speaker 5>pop artists that they pull out the UK, I love

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<v Speaker 5>to see like the R and B and hip hop

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<v Speaker 5>artists do more of the groundwork because I know that

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<v Speaker 5>everyone's always like, yo, you really did it, and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>just like, you should be here doing the radio runs

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<v Speaker 5>and doing the doing the like the smaller the black

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<v Speaker 5>culture things, because it's it's like they're selling you on

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<v Speaker 5>one thing. But the thing I know I had to

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<v Speaker 5>do with the All of Me album, well, thank You

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<v Speaker 5>was work backwards. So American Boy came and it blew right.

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<v Speaker 5>Black people here didn't really know me like that though.

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<v Speaker 5>So when I did Thank You, I was like, it's fine,

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<v Speaker 5>we'ginning and they were like, no, no, no, You're going

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<v Speaker 5>to Mississippi. No no, no, You're going to go see

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<v Speaker 5>some black people and you're really gonna talk and be

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<v Speaker 5>out there.

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<v Speaker 7>And I had to do it.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's the stuff that I think that people miss

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<v Speaker 5>when they say like, oh, you're you're big around the world,

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<v Speaker 5>You're going America, You're gonna clean But you know, Joe

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<v Speaker 5>In and in Champagne Illinois don't know you. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's like and you know, and maybe it's over

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<v Speaker 5>there and Mississippi has no clue.

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<v Speaker 7>Just not.

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<v Speaker 1>My grandmom.

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<v Speaker 5>It's true, like but like real folks who are just

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<v Speaker 5>like in the same way that, like I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to say, yeah that it just hit me.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know, so in.

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<v Speaker 5>The same kind of way, like look, it might be

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<v Speaker 5>the poppingist thing and you might look like, but go

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<v Speaker 5>and do the world my grandma and grandmama, like, you know, like.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, so, that's that was smart

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<v Speaker 1>of you to yo, you're just hitting me now.

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<v Speaker 7>And nobody else has followed. Nobody's looking.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't name it mountain times that we performed in

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<v Speaker 1>Mississippi or Alabama or you know, I mean, at least

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<v Speaker 1>in the last I mean, we don't do miss the

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<v Speaker 1>down South states as much as we do our regular

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<v Speaker 1>because y'all.

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<v Speaker 6>Were built on colleges too, though, don't you think so?

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<v Speaker 6>Because of the foundation in a way.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but then you also have a different way into

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<v Speaker 5>people's spirits with TV, so it's a different you know.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but you still got to get the black vote.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, but still.

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<v Speaker 6>Black people populating in that audience on Jami in this

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<v Speaker 6>research and that.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids put them because all our families are big in

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<v Speaker 1>this for tickets.

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<v Speaker 6>Has nice super Bowl commercial.

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<v Speaker 1>Boss, thank you, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Matter what they got to do that, I still am

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<v Speaker 5>just like I want to see a Georgia Smith come

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<v Speaker 5>here and do that run and I want to see

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<v Speaker 5>like I want to see miss Banks coming here and

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<v Speaker 5>do you know?

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<v Speaker 7>And I said, and it's that fine line of you

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<v Speaker 7>you don't have to, but you should, you know, I

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<v Speaker 7>said to Sims.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, you don't have to move here, but

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<v Speaker 5>you should come here and stay for a while or

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<v Speaker 5>come whatever you want to do, like but you don't

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<v Speaker 5>have to, but you should for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Come.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't sell somebody or tell someone that you get

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<v Speaker 5>their culture if you're not hearing it, you know, not

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<v Speaker 5>the same way like like you went to the UK

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<v Speaker 5>and you lived it, you could talk to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Not for nothing. Well, I mean we did it because

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<v Speaker 1>like we knew they would accept us. But not for nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're when you're fine and okay, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>potential second chapter as a manager, or at least that

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<v Speaker 1>of like almost Carroll Lewis like an agent, because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that your average when when when a person

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<v Speaker 1>comes from uh, from where they are to the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>I think nine times out of ten they're just thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of New York, La Vegas, maybe Chicago, like a major

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<v Speaker 1>city whereas you know, people aren't thinking of long range.

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<v Speaker 7>I had to physically do it. That's why I know

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<v Speaker 7>it works.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, like once you see them, don't you see

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<v Speaker 6>your stuf? Like once you see them and you go

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<v Speaker 6>to their town, they love you for life.

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<v Speaker 5>They love you for life. Look, I went to Selma

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<v Speaker 5>and sang Conqueror on the on the not on the

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<v Speaker 5>next day when TV wanted the special and I met

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<v Speaker 5>Tremaine Hawkins. Two to me is like the garden arm

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<v Speaker 5>in gospel things like that, and she knew my record,

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<v Speaker 5>and my.

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<v Speaker 7>Whole heart exploded, like wow.

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<v Speaker 5>Like things like that like lose I lose my mind

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<v Speaker 5>about things like that because it's like this is who

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<v Speaker 5>I grew up listening to as an eight nine ten

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<v Speaker 5>year old in my mom's kitchen and I'm sitting there

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<v Speaker 5>going what and She's stand in front of my face

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<v Speaker 5>singing Conqueror And I almost collapsed, Like but you don't.

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<v Speaker 5>You're not gonna get to those moments where it's those

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<v Speaker 5>people we sound on their shoulders if you don't go

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<v Speaker 5>and touch them there the people, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 5>you're not going to get those And I just feel

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<v Speaker 5>like we have so much great we write the rules,

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<v Speaker 5>come here and talk to people about the rules that

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<v Speaker 5>we write in like, come and help them understand the

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<v Speaker 5>new swerve, the new energy about it all. And from

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<v Speaker 5>our point of view, like it's it's it's wildly lonely.

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<v Speaker 7>It's been wildly lonely for a very long time being

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<v Speaker 7>me and Marsha, Right.

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<v Speaker 9>It's just I tell people all the time, show you

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<v Speaker 9>have to build a tribe, like there has to be

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<v Speaker 9>nine at least nine like minded people.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Well I started my label like on that because I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, well, I have all of this to give

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<v Speaker 5>and I want I want to be able to leave

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<v Speaker 5>this legacy, like do the work and you know, come

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<v Speaker 5>here and put time in and you're not going to

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<v Speaker 5>sleep for like twenty years, but it's all right.

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<v Speaker 6>It'll be okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, I have fun when you're dead, man,

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<v Speaker 5>that's like the only option you'll have.

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<v Speaker 7>Like, so, also, do you like LA now? I like it?

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<v Speaker 7>Do you like it as a single lady?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, I don't think I wanted.

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<v Speaker 7>To clarify because you part is. But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, okay, I have to change my energy about all

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<v Speaker 5>that things, all that stuff because I potential. It's definitely

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<v Speaker 5>has a couple of potentials out there. I definitely in La. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's like two three.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's around.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, people don't know that that's hard in La.

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<v Speaker 7>This is hard.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the podcast I'm about navigating the single life.

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<v Speaker 7>Short version is trash. No, no, it's not trash. It's

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<v Speaker 7>just my friends always say to me, Look, as hard

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<v Speaker 7>as you.

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<v Speaker 5>Work on your music and your life and your career,

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<v Speaker 5>you have to work on your love life.

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<v Speaker 7>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard.

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<v Speaker 7>So I had to change.

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<v Speaker 5>But wait and you to come out of town. They

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<v Speaker 5>have to come from outtown.

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<v Speaker 6>And then she gave you the speeches she gave me

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<v Speaker 6>about listen, like you have to open your mind when

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<v Speaker 6>you come to l A.

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<v Speaker 7>Angela Nizzle.

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<v Speaker 6>She was like, Angela Nizzle and Don were like, listen,

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<v Speaker 6>you got a day outside your race.

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, but they don't, they don't. I tried.

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<v Speaker 7>It was it was.

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<v Speaker 6>It was interesting, right, It's just not the same, Like

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<v Speaker 6>why go for the second if you want.

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<v Speaker 7>It is the accent.

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<v Speaker 1>I know accent, it's no what I.

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<v Speaker 6>Want, what I want and the day I mean I

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<v Speaker 6>want to.

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<v Speaker 7>I want what I want, you know what?

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<v Speaker 5>But like l A has opened me out though, like

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<v Speaker 5>I am a lot more like I see two sides

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<v Speaker 5>of everything.

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<v Speaker 7>I balanced.

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<v Speaker 5>It's how is that person feeling when they like, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not human because I can't be a judge baptist.

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<v Speaker 7>Like I've done too much.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been through too much to like put anybody you

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<v Speaker 5>on anything, for anything, on anybody and say well that's that,

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, I just kind of I'm open, but

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<v Speaker 5>also like I want I.

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<v Speaker 7>Want compromise on something. Every day I have to sit

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<v Speaker 7>and be like.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know something you do sometimes chameleonize yourself

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<v Speaker 1>into another person. Slight confession. Okay, so when I went

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<v Speaker 1>to Smart, Black and Funny, it took me eight minutes

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<v Speaker 1>to realize I was sitting with you and Melanie Fiona.

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<v Speaker 7>Are you serious?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear a trace of accent, and I was like, oh,

1:12:39.000 --> 1:12:40.120
<v Speaker 1>these girls are so nice to me.

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<v Speaker 7>That's wow. We said that I probably had different hair too, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Melanie caught me, yeah, your hair was changed. I

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting behind you at first, and then Melanie said something.

1:12:49.760 --> 1:12:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I said, wait, I feel like I know this person

1:12:51.840 --> 1:12:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and her hair was different, and then your accent came out.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh fuck, look.

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<v Speaker 5>Because this is this has been my I've been learning

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<v Speaker 5>American accents too, because every time I go so I'm

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<v Speaker 5>doing acting more acting job.

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<v Speaker 7>I want to Cynthia Rea. But go ahead, get to it.

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<v Speaker 7>You know that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 6>A mirror coming over here. They give me acting jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you're in.

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<v Speaker 7>I've been doing it, let me tell you.

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<v Speaker 5>But like, the thing is, they keep giving me these

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<v Speaker 5>rolls A laugh for my bad is your bike? Because

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just like, first of all, what so they keep

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<v Speaker 5>asking me to be strippers, and I keep being like.

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<v Speaker 7>Where I don't see it.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have enough you walk away? You know what more,

1:13:45.320 --> 1:13:48.000
<v Speaker 5>I don't have enough for this, okay, and looking like.

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<v Speaker 7>I had to. I had beef with one of my agents.

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<v Speaker 5>Yo, stop sending me in these damn like we know, no, bro,

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<v Speaker 5>better say I guess the hustlers.

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<v Speaker 7>Relax. No, I didn't get that well, I should got

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<v Speaker 7>that one. Not even fun.

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<v Speaker 5>I could have learned how to actually strip, but I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't want to bend on the super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 6>But I have a mild I'm just joking because I

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<v Speaker 6>love her.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait, I love by the way.

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<v Speaker 7>I had. I had a time. It was no stripping story.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>I was in the strip club first time I heard

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<v Speaker 5>my song outside in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 7>No magic, magic American boy, yeah ship.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it was onyx On and we went there to

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<v Speaker 5>treat the guys because like life on the road. And

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, let's go to trick left there, no right,

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<v Speaker 5>how they gotta go wings, Sure, let's.

1:14:47.080 --> 1:14:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Go yes, based on their wings, shout out, shoutouts.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, listen, you can't even get the names out fast.

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<v Speaker 7>And I know it's so many good strip clubs, good food.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, I'm I found Wait, there's a good.

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<v Speaker 7>I love it. It's good because I was like, well,

1:15:07.360 --> 1:15:10.600
<v Speaker 7>here we are, and the other day I was like,

1:15:10.600 --> 1:15:11.759
<v Speaker 7>here we are. This is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it.

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<v Speaker 7>It's Sam Sam Browse or something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>It's downtown and well I didn't eat the food, but

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<v Speaker 5>the girls, the ladies were love me. And so here's

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<v Speaker 5>the thing. I go in there and I'm just like, again,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not judging.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 5>They'll be your best life, right, And it was just

1:15:28.640 --> 1:15:30.720
<v Speaker 5>always weird when they play my record and the dude

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<v Speaker 5>set it up like we.

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<v Speaker 7>Got some so remember.

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<v Speaker 5>You had you had Lloyd in the house, you had

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<v Speaker 5>like Lloyd and this is this is years ago Lloyd

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<v Speaker 5>bow Wow and a few other singers right early singers,

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<v Speaker 5>R and B singers, and they're like that side of

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<v Speaker 5>the club and I'm just like, oh, ship, oh this

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<v Speaker 5>like ah and I'm just in there trying to like okay,

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<v Speaker 5>but I'm meet over.

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<v Speaker 7>And then the guy, my girl, my assistant.

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<v Speaker 5>Had told the dude that I was there, and she's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>we got real singing in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like.

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<v Speaker 7>Ship, and then he puts the regular I do too.

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<v Speaker 5>My fan is and I was just like in bask

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<v Speaker 5>and he goes to me, y'all sing the song and

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<v Speaker 5>then I'm singing American Boy, It's gonna and she's like

1:16:14.880 --> 1:16:22.320
<v Speaker 5>she's major and I'm just like, oh, that's pretty good.

1:16:28.120 --> 1:16:30.200
<v Speaker 5>Comes down and then she's like I just love you, you

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<v Speaker 5>just so do You're so cute, you so like you're

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<v Speaker 5>so classy.

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<v Speaker 7>And I was like yeah, okay, and then she hugs

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<v Speaker 7>me and it's like is that weird? Awkward? Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>and then it happened again.

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<v Speaker 5>It's stadium with thank you with stadium and ship was no.

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<v Speaker 5>They played break my Heart and then they all came

1:16:50.400 --> 1:16:51.800
<v Speaker 5>come up to me in a line like a.

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<v Speaker 7>Greeting with me and Greek line.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like church, they didn't dance for you, so

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<v Speaker 5>but they were like coming to be like nice. So

1:17:00.280 --> 1:17:05.360
<v Speaker 5>it was like no, you're you like, no, don't. I

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<v Speaker 5>will put money in the in the dancer's hand.

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<v Speaker 7>It just considering it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not gonna happen. I'm an all up. I am

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<v Speaker 5>the killer of vibes. No, I'm like amazing.

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<v Speaker 7>TV story. I had a wild and crazy life.

1:17:33.200 --> 1:17:37.479
<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, Mike, Mike knew about this story. Now,

1:17:37.720 --> 1:17:39.840
<v Speaker 5>the guys hadn't set me up. We were on the

1:17:39.880 --> 1:17:42.960
<v Speaker 5>road and I said to myself, I tweet something like, yo,

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<v Speaker 5>me be like when you I'll be quiet. When I'll

1:17:46.200 --> 1:17:48.360
<v Speaker 5>be quiet when he leaves, I'll be talking again about

1:17:49.240 --> 1:17:50.720
<v Speaker 5>when the first come up on the show, when it

1:17:50.840 --> 1:17:52.680
<v Speaker 5>was first on the show, And I tweet that and

1:17:52.680 --> 1:17:54.080
<v Speaker 5>then team were I was like, yo, what if he

1:17:54.160 --> 1:17:56.280
<v Speaker 5>came to the show tonight, ha ha ha ha. So

1:17:56.439 --> 1:17:58.840
<v Speaker 5>the team make him come to the after party and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm there like oh, my little sister me Stevie J.

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<v Speaker 5>My little sister comes on the road and she's my

1:18:03.720 --> 1:18:05.479
<v Speaker 5>she's my roadie, my homie.

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<v Speaker 7>She come on the roade and.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like Yo.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, Steve, we're having this whole breakdown and

1:18:09.479 --> 1:18:11.879
<v Speaker 5>our soul right, And stevee J comes.

1:18:11.640 --> 1:18:13.559
<v Speaker 7>In the room and I'm just like, I got ask

1:18:13.600 --> 1:18:16.360
<v Speaker 7>him if this is real? I says, yo. He's like,

1:18:16.400 --> 1:18:18.360
<v Speaker 7>comes up, he say, Yo, get to meet you sis.

1:18:18.400 --> 1:18:20.880
<v Speaker 7>And I'm like hi, and he's like, I said, wait,

1:18:20.960 --> 1:18:22.920
<v Speaker 7>you have to tell me is that real? Like do

1:18:22.960 --> 1:18:25.360
<v Speaker 7>you really be? Is this real? Like the face and

1:18:25.400 --> 1:18:27.719
<v Speaker 7>the face date baby?

1:18:28.240 --> 1:18:36.400
<v Speaker 5>And he does the face and I'm like, okay.

1:18:34.240 --> 1:18:35.439
<v Speaker 7>It gets worse, it gets worse.

1:18:35.840 --> 1:18:39.280
<v Speaker 5>So we end up in the strip club with stebe

1:18:39.360 --> 1:18:42.200
<v Speaker 5>J and my whole team is trying to find a

1:18:42.200 --> 1:18:44.680
<v Speaker 5>way for me to have an interaction with STEVJ and

1:18:44.720 --> 1:18:47.160
<v Speaker 5>the stripper and they're just doing this for their pure

1:18:47.160 --> 1:18:48.360
<v Speaker 5>ships and giggles.

1:18:48.520 --> 1:18:49.719
<v Speaker 7>They're doing this because.

1:18:49.520 --> 1:18:54.200
<v Speaker 5>They're doing this so they can laugh at me and

1:18:54.280 --> 1:18:54.599
<v Speaker 5>so we.

1:18:56.920 --> 1:18:57.479
<v Speaker 1>So I like it.

1:18:57.600 --> 1:19:01.600
<v Speaker 5>No, I didn't have, but I was like weird. I

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<v Speaker 5>go to the bathroom. On the way back, he grabs

1:19:04.240 --> 1:19:06.519
<v Speaker 5>me and he pulls me to the stage and I'm

1:19:06.560 --> 1:19:08.920
<v Speaker 5>just like, oh, what's gonna happen. I'm really my soul

1:19:08.960 --> 1:19:14.800
<v Speaker 5>like oh. And he calls me and it's like a

1:19:14.840 --> 1:19:18.160
<v Speaker 5>big lady and she's like go in and like she's

1:19:18.160 --> 1:19:22.280
<v Speaker 5>going in that boot He's up and no, and she's

1:19:22.320 --> 1:19:25.320
<v Speaker 5>like this girl is uncomfored. I'm just like yeah, And

1:19:25.680 --> 1:19:30.200
<v Speaker 5>so if I'm standing, if her bootie's facing the audience,

1:19:30.600 --> 1:19:32.160
<v Speaker 5>I'm standing with my right side.

1:19:32.160 --> 1:19:34.160
<v Speaker 7>I remembered it. And he's facing me and he's like, yo,

1:19:34.280 --> 1:19:34.880
<v Speaker 7>look at him.

1:19:34.920 --> 1:19:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Man.

1:19:35.160 --> 1:19:38.120
<v Speaker 7>I was like what He's like, yo, look at her?

1:19:38.439 --> 1:19:39.240
<v Speaker 6>Looking at her?

1:19:39.320 --> 1:19:41.559
<v Speaker 7>And he says worse things. I'm just like, oh, it's

1:19:41.600 --> 1:19:43.800
<v Speaker 7>all right, she's doing great, Like look at him, ty,

1:19:47.760 --> 1:19:50.000
<v Speaker 7>I'm traumatized. Why are you going to the strip club?

1:19:50.040 --> 1:19:50.360
<v Speaker 1>You don't?

1:19:51.040 --> 1:19:53.120
<v Speaker 7>I don't, but it's fun and.

1:19:55.640 --> 1:19:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Check it out.

1:19:56.360 --> 1:19:59.040
<v Speaker 5>I gave her the money and I thank you.

1:19:59.080 --> 1:20:00.519
<v Speaker 7>It was so great. She was like keep but I

1:20:00.520 --> 1:20:02.400
<v Speaker 7>feel like they appreciate I don't throw at.

1:20:02.280 --> 1:20:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Them, and I feel you if look where in Vegas

1:20:08.800 --> 1:20:11.559
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go. We're gonna go to the expeerimid Rhino

1:20:11.960 --> 1:20:14.200
<v Speaker 1>because they have the best French fries ever.

1:20:14.320 --> 1:20:17.760
<v Speaker 7>Okay, I had been there.

1:20:17.880 --> 1:20:19.519
<v Speaker 5>We had a wild belvet, and I've been all the

1:20:19.520 --> 1:20:21.920
<v Speaker 5>ship clubs and the most polite I.

1:20:21.880 --> 1:20:25.479
<v Speaker 1>Can give you a structured breakdown on the best foods.

1:20:26.479 --> 1:20:27.800
<v Speaker 7>I actually I'm very interested in.

1:20:27.760 --> 1:20:30.960
<v Speaker 1>That in Atlanta. Atlanta is actually the bestrip club in

1:20:30.960 --> 1:20:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta is actually Follies. Like the best dancers. Yes die no,

1:20:39.240 --> 1:20:44.439
<v Speaker 1>not literally they killed. No, they really want to dance

1:20:44.479 --> 1:20:46.639
<v Speaker 1>at Folly because they have a good rate.

1:20:46.600 --> 1:20:49.679
<v Speaker 6>There, like the old Gold Club I got you.

1:20:49.720 --> 1:20:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, because the owner lets them keep their money. Uh,

1:20:55.080 --> 1:20:57.800
<v Speaker 1>at least more than most do. No, no, no, some will

1:20:57.880 --> 1:21:03.559
<v Speaker 1>tax the ship. He makes a killing off of the

1:21:03.600 --> 1:21:09.640
<v Speaker 1>bar and more importantly the water, which I don't want

1:21:09.680 --> 1:21:13.519
<v Speaker 1>to give a secrets away charges for water interesting, yes, well,

1:21:13.560 --> 1:21:15.800
<v Speaker 1>but he has a great deal on bottle water. I

1:21:15.800 --> 1:21:20.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe a friend of ours, a friend of his,

1:21:20.560 --> 1:21:24.160
<v Speaker 1>a friend of ours, but yeah, yeah, fell off the truck.

1:21:24.280 --> 1:21:29.400
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Follies. It also has great food.

1:21:28.120 --> 1:21:31.559
<v Speaker 6>And commercial to do like a little book. This is

1:21:31.640 --> 1:21:33.360
<v Speaker 6>this is a John said you're not allowed to do those.

1:21:37.920 --> 1:21:41.719
<v Speaker 7>I mean that would be fun, like I would. I'd

1:21:41.720 --> 1:21:43.760
<v Speaker 7>want to know or do a site. I don't know.

1:21:45.000 --> 1:21:48.520
<v Speaker 7>We're looking for someone they have a green book for entertainment.

1:21:49.680 --> 1:21:53.559
<v Speaker 6>Serious at least they start breakfast after, you know, like four.

1:21:53.840 --> 1:21:56.000
<v Speaker 7>No, real life, I have to talk to you about this.

1:21:56.200 --> 1:21:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Why has he ever been Steve? I'm nominating myself for

1:22:00.040 --> 1:22:05.960
<v Speaker 1>this job. So oh god, all right, so we gotta

1:22:05.960 --> 1:22:10.160
<v Speaker 1>wrapped this up, y'all. We we done talked about the

1:22:10.280 --> 1:22:16.120
<v Speaker 1>church in the UK and immigration and pancakes at Folly's.

1:22:17.520 --> 1:22:20.880
<v Speaker 1>So okay, so in love in l A. Yeah, So

1:22:22.160 --> 1:22:25.679
<v Speaker 1>for you, what what is your what is your hope

1:22:25.680 --> 1:22:27.760
<v Speaker 1>for this year? We're already in February, Like, what do you?

1:22:28.120 --> 1:22:30.040
<v Speaker 7>I'm really like, So my main thing is the label

1:22:30.040 --> 1:22:30.479
<v Speaker 7>goes up.

1:22:31.360 --> 1:22:33.920
<v Speaker 5>I have a new artist that I really really really like,

1:22:34.120 --> 1:22:35.920
<v Speaker 5>will go for like in the same way John went

1:22:35.920 --> 1:22:39.400
<v Speaker 5>for me. She's incredible, She's a great singer. She just

1:22:39.640 --> 1:22:42.040
<v Speaker 5>my thing is, I'm not investing in anybody who I

1:22:42.080 --> 1:22:43.720
<v Speaker 5>have to pull from the ground up. I'm investing in

1:22:43.720 --> 1:22:45.640
<v Speaker 5>people who are doing the work and who want to

1:22:45.680 --> 1:22:48.240
<v Speaker 5>actually learn the business and be sustainable on their own.

1:22:48.360 --> 1:22:48.559
<v Speaker 7>You know.

1:22:49.080 --> 1:22:50.240
<v Speaker 1>So where's she from.

1:22:50.360 --> 1:22:52.439
<v Speaker 7>She's from Illinois.

1:22:52.640 --> 1:23:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, she's really Illinois, so respectable. What about Chicago?

1:23:01.080 --> 1:23:01.640
<v Speaker 7>Illinois?

1:23:02.240 --> 1:23:06.200
<v Speaker 5>Family in Chicago and like it's she's been working, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and she's been really trying to do this. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>Jamie Woods, that's a hard Jamie Instagram. But she has

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<v Speaker 5>a beautiful voice. She just stands and things. I believe

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<v Speaker 5>she's going to be incredible. You're going to see it.

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<v Speaker 5>But she also knows the business and is learning it quickly,

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<v Speaker 5>you know. And like, so the label's going up, We're

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<v Speaker 5>doing TVN films, documentaries, We're expanding, like the festival space,

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<v Speaker 5>which is you know, I know a lot of things

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<v Speaker 5>that I see and I understand the position that I'm in,

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<v Speaker 5>and I just want to make sure that going forward,

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<v Speaker 5>anybody that comes here and understands that they have this

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<v Speaker 5>outlet and they have this unique space that they can

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<v Speaker 5>really run down whether you know, because we all need

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<v Speaker 5>we needed that person. I needed that person to It's

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<v Speaker 5>the word out helped me and I had to figure

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<v Speaker 5>out a lot of things myself, you know. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>mentoring is essentially the key. So I've you know, a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of our has come through and I definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Touched folks paying it for it.

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<v Speaker 5>That's happening. Yeah, And essence is she is going and

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<v Speaker 5>like we're going again. We have the batchman, the dancer

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<v Speaker 5>or the soca. I think I feel like I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know if I spoke too soon about that, but I

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<v Speaker 5>got so every year you no essence, it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not.

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<v Speaker 7>We are, it's diaspora. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Last year we did it with them, and it was

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<v Speaker 5>the first year we sold out. It was the highest

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<v Speaker 5>rated like performance, and so this year we're doing it again.

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<v Speaker 5>And my thing was to make sure that whenever we

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<v Speaker 5>touch down and you understand the diasporas here, it's not

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<v Speaker 5>just about it's it's definitely black culture, but also here

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<v Speaker 5>we are because that's where I come from. Like we

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<v Speaker 5>I never do an American boys show. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>do a show and it's bash Man, it's dance all,

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<v Speaker 5>it's all the music is John Bassis House, and I

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<v Speaker 5>want people to know that that's we can touch all

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<v Speaker 5>those spaces about feeling like, oh your alternative, we're all

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<v Speaker 5>you're different. Now, this is what we do as people.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 7>So we're doing that way sence, and that's what we do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>hell you shut it out. We're strong and we get

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<v Speaker 7>it down. We're getting it down there.

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<v Speaker 1>You go, yeah, all right, well sell we thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much. Uh, we're coming and speaking to us. Yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>yes Love All all of your product is now streamable. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I see in your local record store a track.

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<v Speaker 7>There new records coming this year.

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<v Speaker 1>So beautiful. That's great to hear. All right, well on

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<v Speaker 1>behalf of the team Supreme, sim Steve Boss Bill.

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<v Speaker 6>Club.

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