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Speaker 1: Questloft Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. So Up, y'all.

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Speaker 1: June is Black Music Pump, and every year we use

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Speaker 1: this time to acknowledge something that really can't be overstated.

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Speaker 1: Black music is one of the foundational forces behind modern culture. Now,

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Speaker 1: back when Teams Supreme and I were doing a Questlove

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Speaker 1: Supreme and now on the Quest Loft Show, we've always

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Speaker 1: the entire month of June, we're bringing you an episode

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Speaker 1: every day focused on the history, influence, and ongoing evolution

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Speaker 1: of black music. A team and I duck through the

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Speaker 1: catalog and selected episodes that feel especially meaningful for now,

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Speaker 1: conversations that inform, entertain and connect the dots between where

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Speaker 1: this music comes from where it's headed. Now. Alongside those,

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Speaker 1: we'll be releasing four new episodes of Quest Loft Show

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Speaker 1: feature trail lasers, innovators, and cultural connectors and visionaries who

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Speaker 1: represent the past, present, future of black music. I want

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Speaker 1: you to enjoy this.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Suprema, Some Suprema, Roll Call, Suprema Son Supremo, Roll Call,

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Speaker 2: Supremo Son Supremo, Roll Call Suprema Some Suprema.

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Speaker 1: Roll Call Duca Earl Yeah, Milton Burl, Yeah, give it

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Speaker 1: a twirl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, London Girl, Suprema Supremo roll Call.

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Speaker 1: My name is Sugar, Yeah, what's up a stell? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You need a son? Yeah, I got one to sell.

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Speaker 1: Supprimo roll Suprema something Suprema roll.

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Speaker 4: My name is Boss Bill Yeah, and I'm on my knees. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I forgot to prepare for roll call.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Forgive me a stell pretty please.

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Speaker 5: Sup.

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Speaker 2: Supremo Role Suprema So Supremo roll call.

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Speaker 6: It's like, yeah, and my girl is Stelle. We ain't

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Speaker 6: no substitutes no more. Oh she knows me well.

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Speaker 2: Supprima something Supremo role, my names and stell Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: I am litty.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm out here doing it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: In New York City.

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Speaker 1: Came something Supremo roll Suprema.

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Speaker 2: Something Suprema roll call, Suprema something something Supremo roll call, Supremo.

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Speaker 1: Son son suppering up.

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Speaker 4: I hate y'all for not taking American Boy because I

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Speaker 4: wanted to do mine around that, but I was like.

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Speaker 1: Too obviously, too obvious. Did London Girl because I thought

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Speaker 1: was obvious was going to do that. I was like,

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Speaker 1: let me, let me go for a little bit deep.

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Speaker 1: Let me go a little deeper. I'll go for pretty please.

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Speaker 1: It was good.

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Speaker 7: That was good. Was you're not my substitute? Normal?

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Speaker 1: You know we gotta pay for.

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Speaker 7: That was only two seconds heart.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I was going to say, I was

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out a way to incorporate, uh, five

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Speaker 1: ft seven being the id height. It was a bladder,

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Speaker 1: leave me loud, everybody, everybody against me, against me about it?

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Speaker 1: You you were trying to do that.

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Speaker 5: I was just having a mumble and it made sense,

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Speaker 5: and the mumbles so I can't do five for seven.

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Speaker 5: So look we're doing the vibes and John is like

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Speaker 7: I was like, well five seven.

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Speaker 1: It makes sense, yes, okay, But I just thought maybe

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Speaker 1: the conversion of yeah, I was gonna say it like

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Speaker 1: you might would have been like six. But you made

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Speaker 1: a lot of low self esteem dudes, feel like you

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Speaker 1: mean low.

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Speaker 7: The sure man have my bike? Sure guys guy.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Quest

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Speaker 1: Love Supreme. I am six ft three, Thank you. I'm

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Speaker 1: six for three as well. Great, he'll tell you like

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Speaker 1: eight okay, Well you wear hills all the time, Steve,

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Speaker 1: my feet are size thirteen. All right, So, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by the the good folk of iHeart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host quest Love Jenkins. Uh, Team Supreme is with

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Speaker 1: us today. We got a boss Bill in the house

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Speaker 1: and sugar Steve Steve Jenkins. Yeah, sure, this is crazy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And you know he don't be rocking his middle name,

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Speaker 1: his last name and nothing. So Bertie Jenkins means the

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Speaker 1: are Bert Jenkins to light. Yeah, and like was up, Yeah, unpaid.

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Speaker 1: Bill must be getting his bills paid because we haven't

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Speaker 6: He gave me the other day, like I just got

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, he's doing movies. I'm doing movies too,

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Speaker 1: but I'm here, damn. But of course Fante promised this

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Speaker 1: So we're still waiting for Dad to come back home.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, our guest today, of course, needs no introduction.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I just got that joke. Actually, after

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Speaker 1: not coming home. Yeah, that's that's how. Yes, I understand fathers.

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Speaker 1: I get it go out from some smokes and dentists.

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Speaker 1: He never left, no man, it doesn't smoke. And he

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I just imagine your dad being like Steve

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Speaker 4: Martin a little shopping horrors.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a reference. Anyway, Ladies and gentlemen, our

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Speaker 1: guest today needs no introduction. She is a Grammy Award

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Speaker 1: winning singer songwriter, slash mc uh slash voice actress. Uh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I will say. And I got a lot

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Speaker 1: of Stephen Universe questions because I've just recently gotten to

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Speaker 1: crystal rock technology. I used to be one of the

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Speaker 1: people that like laughed at people all right side note,

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Speaker 1: like the jazzy fat nasties used to always just walk

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Speaker 1: around with like a bunch of crystals in their pockets.

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Speaker 1: And I thought that was the kookiest ship ever. And

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Speaker 1: now I can't. Yeah on me time. Literally, I keep

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Speaker 1: granted and crystals and amethysts. Welcome, Welcome, I feel real silk.

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Speaker 7: Welcome.

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Speaker 1: She she she hells from my other home, the West

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Speaker 1: side of London, West Side. Yes, well, I don't know

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Speaker 1: many black people that are from the West side of one.

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Speaker 7: There's a whole contingency of us.

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Speaker 1: We we are there, I see all right, old ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, welcome my near aquarian capricorn sister. Sell to

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Speaker 1: the shell.

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Speaker 5: It's it just made me crunchy as hellrib cool cool,

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Speaker 5: granola crunchy.

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Speaker 1: Got it?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sorry, sorry.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I get it. How are you today?

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Speaker 5: I am wonderful. It's beautiful outside. It is really characteristically.

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Speaker 1: Nice, beautiful February. It is February. It is It's February. Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is it? Is it? Bill? It's late February. Everybody almost

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Speaker 1: We're still here, Steve, please, gentlemen, Steven snapping, Well, you

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Speaker 1: mentioned in your I know that we were all winging

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Speaker 1: our roll call, but you mentioned New York City. But

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Speaker 1: I would like to think that you are you officially here.

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Speaker 7: I'm in l A. I'm in LA officially my close

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Speaker 1: But correct me if I'm wrong A few times like yeah,

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Speaker 1: I used to be here. I don't want to say

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Speaker 1: like a few times I dropped you off.

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Speaker 5: In the same seat and say that no no, not

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Speaker 5: like his version, Tell him, no, I've.

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Speaker 1: I'm a considerate person. Anybody gets in my car, a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of people. Yeah, the last one that goes home.

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Speaker 1: I dropped people off.

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Speaker 6: So trip has Estelle saying you got me at some

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Speaker 7: Pretty much.

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Speaker 1: I go back to like eighteenth letter pre eighteenth letter Estelle,

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Speaker 1: when Estelle was saying yes and yeah.

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Speaker 5: So I remember, like, so the first time we met,

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Speaker 7: I think I opened up you guys used to.

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Speaker 5: Be there a lot, and I think I live yeah,

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Speaker 5: and I opened up for you a few times at

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Speaker 1: When I suggest rap, you can, I need you to

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Speaker 1: explain something to me because as much as like claiming

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Speaker 1: like yeah, London's or second home, London's or second home,

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Speaker 1: there's one thing that no one's ever properly explained to me. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so there's so and hopefully you can, you know, give

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Speaker 1: so many sub genres of music that comes from urban

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Speaker 1: London on ground, yeah, I mean there's grime, two step, drumming, bassed,

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Speaker 1: E d M, trip hop, acid, jazz, everything. Can you

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Speaker 7: Here, no, Well, on the different subgenres well how all right, So.

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know the difference, Like, okay, the the

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Speaker 5: Grime is like a sub genre, a subdivision of what

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Speaker 5: like dance music and jungle made grime, and like garage,

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Speaker 7: So like UK hip hop was.

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Speaker 5: The founding thing, right, and that came out of dance

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Speaker 5: It had a really big presence and then but at

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Speaker 7: Like we listened to all different types of music all

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Speaker 5: Right, So you've got you got us going to school

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Speaker 5: essentially just merged them all together because that's what black

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Speaker 5: swaggy with it, like you can wear echo and whatnot,

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Speaker 5: things that feel like you're rapping, but you're still keeping

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Speaker 5: And that's where it becomes like a whole, like we

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the lines.

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Speaker 7: Get blurred as far as how you do it.

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Speaker 1: But for all right, so when we first went there

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Speaker 1: in ninety three, it didn't exist, right, okay, So drum

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Speaker 1: and bass was just starting, all right. So to explain

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Speaker 1: to our listeners out there, drum and bass is where

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Speaker 1: breakbeat and take it as is. I mean, someone would

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Speaker 1: the most part, like what you hear on the record

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Speaker 1: is what you would hear sampled drum and bass. They

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Speaker 1: would speed it up almost past forty five to like

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Speaker 1: seventy eight, which okay, So my theory is that kind

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Speaker 1: of the hip hop experience in America mirrors whatever the

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Speaker 1: vice of choice or drug of choice is of a generation.

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Speaker 1: So you know, if we so, my five year theory is,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting high on life. Aureo thins are really good. Okay.

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Speaker 5: So it was never like, oh, your friend nixt door

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Speaker 7: It was never like that, like obvious everyone smokes.

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Speaker 7: I didn't smoke until I was thirty. I'm quite proud

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Speaker 6: So like what we watching that show now too on Netflix?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh God, shout out to Drake in.

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Speaker 7: The best way possible, said the best way.

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Speaker 1: That's that's power, Drake. Thank you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I appreciate sometimes they still need.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever watched it?

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Speaker 6: I have, don't. I'm saying that because I'm comfortable with you.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I show need subtitles. Even with Queen Sugar Gott,

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Speaker 7: You dad talk about that?

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Speaker 1: King like that? Not Ralph? And that's Ralph Angel angry

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Speaker 1: good morning to me.

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Speaker 7: That's fine, jealous, stop it? King Kobe.

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Speaker 1: Now you know who's not going to be on the show.

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Speaker 6: No Kobe coming, I mean he's coming.

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Speaker 1: To the show, is okay?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, love you single? Okay,

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Speaker 7: I can't even know. I know his mom.

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Speaker 5: Really yeah, he's young and he's a young man.

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Speaker 7: I know we're never going to.

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Speaker 1: Get to your musical experiences because we're just gonna talk

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Speaker 7: It's a little bro I caught.

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Speaker 1: You guys, realized that there's gonna be a line of

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Speaker 7: Right clear. I'm in that space now, not yet, uite.

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Speaker 4: Literally, her next album is gonna have a cover of

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Speaker 7: You know what No, it is not. That was young.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, younger men for us still moved like rabbits.

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Speaker 6: They like, we're not at that age where you want

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Speaker 5: They just they still even like what are you doing? Hold,

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Speaker 5: I'm not teaching you stuff?

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Speaker 7: Oh my thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: It's a fight every day all my life.

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Speaker 1: You need your own podcast, your own podcast, you don't.

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Speaker 1: You don wanted to deal with I heard right exactly. Look,

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Speaker 7: And we're like, wait a minute, what English?

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Speaker 7: I didn't know he was from.

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Speaker 5: Not like you catch somebody young enough, like they're gonna

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Speaker 7: It's been maybe since the fifties and the British.

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Speaker 6: Because then when you go to Blacksnian, right, you find

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Speaker 7: Well in a way.

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Speaker 5: Too, we came over from me I knew. I know

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Speaker 5: I'm still am and I read it as a kid,

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Speaker 7: You guys really have have it, Like I please, I

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Speaker 5: I got to learn about Black Wall Street and YadA YadA,

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Speaker 5: and then like times like soldiers, huge questions you.

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Speaker 6: The like that burning down and why people felt they

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Speaker 7: In the grand scheme of life, everything is everything.

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Speaker 5: I don't judge it, but like it's like you guys

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Speaker 1: The world, how old were you when you discovered your

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Speaker 5: Time, no, no, Like I realized I was good at it.

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Speaker 5: Us just as wild again everything is patterned, right, so

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Speaker 5: which is like essentially kojik. I was a Methodist. I

439
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 5: was Muslim. We've been my grandma before I was born.

440
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 5: So here's the thing West Africa culture. My grandma married

441
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 5: a muslim man. She was Christian, so for a while

442
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 5: she had to learn Muslim and then.

443
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 7: She realized that that was a very oppressive the.

444
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: Version he for a woman.

445
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're very women heavy in our family, so

446
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 5: we've had to dabble per se just to respect it.

447
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 7: But I remember one time I came from so.

448
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: Here we go.

449
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 5: So when I was a child, did all the did

450
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 5: all the religions, and right before we went to real Christianity,

451
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 5: I went to Africa and we went to my granddad's

452
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 5: village and I mem my grandma made us walk and

453
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 5: we get to the village and it's great, but it's

454
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 5: very Muslim and it's like Gambia. My grandma brings this

455
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 5: guy back with us who's like the village chief or

456
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 5: a village dude guy, medicine guy, uh, spiritual guy, and

457
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 5: he's teaching us Arabic and they're trying to like give

458
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 5: us these base lessons in my granddad's culture. And my

459
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 5: mom and I remember, because I'm the big mouth in

460
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 5: my family, low key loky. Now I'm the big mouth,

461
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 5: Like I'm the one that's like no, no, no, that's

462
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 5: not right.

463
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 7: I'm not doing that.

464
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: You challenge people all day?

465
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 5: Are you the oldest, second oldest oldest girl. So yeah,

466
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 5: pretty much. How many nine in my immediate one older brothers, six.

467
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: Girls, second oldest. So you're okay, you're Jackie. Okay, I

468
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: can be everybody.

469
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 7: Okay, Jackie, look good. That's good Jackie. Oh no, he's

470
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 7: the like.

471
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 6: Okay, no, no, you jack natural hair.

472
00:26:51,440 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 7: Okay, you are correct. Mixing was terrible, that's terrible, all right, Okay,

473
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 7: let's got a whole image.

474
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 5: Wait, no, my edges around, No, thise.

475
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 7: The butt, all right.

476
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 5: So he came back and he was teaching us like Arabic,

477
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 5: and then they came to a part where it was

478
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 5: like women must be submissive, and I just kept feeling

479
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 5: like that was wrong, and I said to him, well,

480
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 5: I don't agree.

481
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 7: I was like twelve or thirty, you know some shit

482
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 7: like that. Wow, And I was like, I don't agree.

483
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 7: Why do women have to not speak?

484
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: Why do we?

485
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 7: And I went down the line and my mom was like,

486
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 7: what are you teaching my daughter in this lesson of classes?

487
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 6: No?

488
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 5: Huh no, not them, and she pulled us out the

489
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 5: Arabic classes and that caused a rift in the family

490
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 5: to a degree, and then we became real Christians. And

491
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 5: that's where I kind of was like you know, like

492
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 5: because you were like half in half. We would go

493
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 5: to my grandma's My grandma's a matriarch, and that would

494
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 5: happen in my aunty at my grandma's house, and then

495
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 5: we would go up our house and it would be

496
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 5: like Christian Christian, and then we went full Christian with

497
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 5: that after that, and then and then that was just

498
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 5: a wild time. It was like don't wait on makeup,

499
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 5: don't do no things, and like, oh, like you you

500
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 5: were going to find the husband for you. And my

501
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 5: mom was like also, no, so here's what's gonna happen

502
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 5: with me and my children.

503
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: It was we were oppressive Christian.

504
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 7: Oppressive, but also holy. It was a lot. There's a

505
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 7: lot going down.

506
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 5: And then I think it's always been music that kind

507
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 5: of shifted my trajectory though, because we were in a

508
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 5: church choir and I remember being nineteen and we we

509
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 5: used to remix all the words to the song, so

510
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 5: like Brandy's best friend became Jesus is my best friend,

511
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 5: and like things like that, and like we did the

512
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 5: dances and stuff, and I remember one like church, we

513
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 5: had a church Christmas concept and we were doing the

514
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 5: whole like yere that do with that.

515
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 7: He's always been there friend, and the church like the

516
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 7: pastor got mad, like like, yo.

517
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: Wait, what was he doing to listening to Brandy didn't

518
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: know that reference.

519
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 5: Well, we were exactly make it, no, but she was

520
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 5: more mad that, like she was more tight that we

521
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 5: were dancing and having a good time and she ain't

522
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 5: like my mom for some reason, and so she said

523
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 5: she kicked us out.

524
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 7: The church concept, it's wild up.

525
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: This has been going on three times. I saw a

526
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: church version that they performed the futures percocet. No. I

527
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: don't know how that works, but it was like the

528
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: Christian version, what's the words?

529
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 7: I don't know, but holy goes chase to christ fan sense.

530
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: Wait a second, I saw it on Freddie Gibbs his Instagram,

531
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: So good a minute. This has been going on.

532
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 5: So they kicked us out, and my mom was like

533
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 5: to me after that, you don't have to go back

534
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 5: if you don't want.

535
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 7: I said, good, because I'm not.

536
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 5: And essentially I've never really been a fan of going

537
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 5: back in the building and doing people's versions of events.

538
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 5: I kind of I'm very spiritual, and you know, I

539
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 5: would read the Bible and I pray a lot, and

540
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 5: you know, crystals, and I listened and I'm in chuning

541
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 5: and blah blah.

542
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: Blah, spiritual, spiritual, so one of those. So did you, Well,

543
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: I'm assuming I have the same thing that it was

544
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: hard bringing secular music inside the house. Really my whole life,

545
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: Prince punishments.

546
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 5: All day, Prince, Like go in your room and listen

547
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 5: to your headphones under the pillow. I had Jodysy and

548
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 5: I had like this little like Jodasy was my thing

549
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 5: in my teens, and I had this little black boom

550
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 5: box and my bedrooms right next to my mom's and

551
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 5: my bed was right next to the wall, and I

552
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 5: would play it, but I would put it under my

553
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 5: pillow to muffle the sound.

554
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 7: But that's how I.

555
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 5: Learned how to do harmonies for real, for real, like

556
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 5: really meld them stuff listening.

557
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: All right, look, hopefully let them go. If you're conservative

558
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: parents and you're listening to me, I'm shocked. But just

559
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: let your kids listen. They're going to listen anyway, yes,

560
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: let them, especially if they got their own phones. Now, yeah,

561
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: it's a rat, so just let him listen. So, so

562
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: you're saying that by seventeen, it was fine, Well wait,

563
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: because again when I first met you, I met you

564
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: as an MC. I didn't know you saning, so.

565
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 7: You're like, what happen?

566
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, let go. I was kind of like wait reaped,

567
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah this is but yeah, like how did hip hop

568
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: affect you?

569
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 7: My uncle was the one that brought in our house,

570
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 7: and it was like.

571
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: How old was he?

572
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 7: He was? Uncle? Was young Uncle? He's just turned like.

573
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: Fifty okay and oh thank you.

574
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 7: Just to fit like he's like you know, but like

575
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 7: he was a young uncle.

576
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 5: He was like definitely like out in the streets doing

577
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 5: this thing right, like wait, studs, it's crazy have family.

578
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: So what kind of was he? Was?

579
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 7: He playing Daddy Kane all of that era.

580
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: We would call that classic classic.

581
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, so that was his whole thing.

582
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 5: The one thing I remember he brought that like was

583
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 5: like my switch onto It was break dancing and we

584
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 5: used to we used to really break dance as kids,

585
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 5: like because it was the thing to age right, and

586
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 5: my mom was like, don't break dance, no more to

587
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 5: do it was used to like that from break it.

588
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 7: She like, yo, he broke his neck spinning on his head.

589
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: Before. I don't want to die.

590
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 7: It's like I stopped, and I realized he didn't. But like,

591
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 7: you know, she liked me.

592
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 4: They must have. They must have told that to every

593
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 4: black parents. Every I heard that one. We didn't have

594
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 4: insurance back then, but.

595
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 5: That was my switch into hip hop and like and

596
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 5: then I just like I just liked it. It was

597
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 5: like then became cultural as a popular thing. But then

598
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 5: it became like as I got older, it was like, yo,

599
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 5: I can really I have a way with putting the

600
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 5: words together. It's not about poetry for me. It's about

601
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 5: the rhythm and the rhyme and of it, right. And

602
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 5: then all my friends were like into it, and then

603
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 5: like mid to late nineties, I really was doing it,

604
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 5: Like I.

605
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 7: Be the only girl in the room.

606
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 5: We'd be writing songs and I would actually end up

607
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 5: like finishing off rhymes or writing my own and you know,

608
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 5: and in friends of just put the verse down, just

609
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 5: put the verse down, and I was.

610
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 7: Like, no, I would put the verse down. Did I

611
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 7: put the verse down? And it became like, well, actually

612
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 7: I could really do it.

613
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: Oh okay, And so I did it. Well when you're

614
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: I mean, when you're in the thick of it, you know,

615
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: is there truly anybody to look up to. Well, first

616
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: of all, as far as how you get it now,

617
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: I mean, because you're in the mid to late nineties,

618
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that there's a lot of Tim Westwood. Yeah,

619
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: seven nine, I missed to seven nine. Man, all those guys.

620
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, you got to explain something to me.

621
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: What was the deal with the So Solid crew?

622
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 7: So they all right, they were good, they were like.

623
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: The original all right, So they were the originals of them.

624
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, pretty much. They still the only time.

625
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: I mean, as an American, there's there's a certain amount

626
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: of arrogance that Americans have, and I guess like being

627
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: over there, like in our mind it was like no

628
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: one could ever threaten you with the accent. That nice.

629
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: But the guys, you know, like we just like come on,

630
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: like little accent.

631
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 7: That's cute.

632
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: They weren't.

633
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 7: It wasn't.

634
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: Don't can you settle? Not a rumor? But okay, so

635
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: we know, at least for that time in the late nineties,

636
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: there were absolutely no firearms. We were told there were

637
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: no firearms.

638
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 6: In the UK, and then still I thought the UK

639
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 6: is like the most firearms.

640
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: We're so naive so much wait really happened.

641
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 6: Because we was like mode on the eye gun control

642
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 6: because the police, the police.

643
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 7: Don't have guns. Oh, let's stay there.

644
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: Wow. Ok, I never knew that.

645
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 7: It's always been okay.

646
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: So we heard a rumor that our beloved Westwood got shot.

647
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: Asked by a member of that crew, I.

648
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 7: Can neither confirmdi deny who did.

649
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: No one will ever tell the story of why or

650
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: if that happened.

651
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 7: It's like, you have to understand, that was the.

652
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: Realist hip hop shit ever heard coming out of London.

653
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: That was it was real and he was kind of

654
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: and I almost felt like it was a badge of

655
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 1: honor for him. Yep, like I got shot, So.

656
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 7: I'm still here. You gotta understand why did he gets shot?

657
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: Tim Westwood is the figure from BBC that really brought

658
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: a lot of classic hip hop. He was the funk

659
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: master Flex of the UK. He's the voice that you

660
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: hear on top of Public Enemy's classic It takes the

661
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: nation of millions to hold us back. Fresh Start of

662
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,479
Speaker 1: the Week was the name of his his show.

663
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 6: So he also was a whites man just in case people,

664
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 6: yes he's a yes.

665
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, but I mean he was a

666
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: pioneer source of bringing those shows over and I guess,

667
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: like you know, with how pirate radio was in the UK,

668
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: a lot of offspring, so like cats, like when I

669
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: did two seven nine, that was a pirate radio show,

670
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: but it was like a real operation, like the room

671
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: we're in right now. It wasn't like at that point

672
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: it was the government tire shutting them down and they're

673
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: just like here, keep here, keep going.

674
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 7: And then it became choice, and then in choice of

675
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 7: family moved on to choice.

676
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: It was nice two seven nines legit Now seven.

677
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 7: Nine has been the ja I feel like he's a

678
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 7: kiss so he was a kiss man.

679
00:36:54,400 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 5: He sold everybody, did everybody listen? It's no games, but

680
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 5: put it in its context too, No, I'm trying to

681
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 5: put so solid and the vibe. So if you got

682
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 5: hip hop, hip hop, hip hop, which was two seven

683
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 5: nine in Westwood, then it became this shift when all

684
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 5: the music became mixed up right, and then because they

685
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 5: couldn't quite get a hold on hip hop, it was

686
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 5: like that's not the new thing coming out. You had

687
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 5: all these labels investing in new thing, which is garage, right,

688
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 5: which is this huge scene that was blowing up that

689
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 5: wasn't hip hop, that wasn't UK hip hop.

690
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 7: That wasn't like after after establishment the labels.

691
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 5: And so so solid was that, but So Solid was real,

692
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 5: we're real dudes, Like they were like out there, some.

693
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 7: Of them were really out there. There's a couple of them.

694
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: Yeah right still still.

695
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 5: So like you know, like it was a it was

696
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 5: a very oh you guys think this is for fun,

697
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 5: but like you're investing in real humans and real life scenarios.

698
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 7: So also that.

699
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: But I don't want to pain him as them all

700
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: unreally thust because Greg David also came.

701
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 5: From they came from that scene, but he wasn't in

702
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 5: So Solid no parts he was before So Solid, but

703
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 5: like they were all kind of after the two seven

704
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 5: nine and and like Rodney p and like I was

705
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 5: even in that more that scene than I was in

706
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 5: the garage side and stuff. Like I was really like rapid,

707
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 5: like I was in the ciphers. I was like doing

708
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 5: the real uh.

709
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: So all those names at the time that I saw,

710
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: like uh miss Dynamite or Dizzy Rask.

711
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 5: The street they came at the end of like the

712
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 5: hit UK hip hop side of stuff, and they really

713
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 5: ushered in that whole new garage side.

714
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 7: That's what it was.

715
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 5: That's what they came all right before so solid and

716
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 5: then so Solid. It was came in like Wu Tang.

717
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 5: It was patterned on hip hop, but it was just

718
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 5: a different kind of sound.

719
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: So did you ever think in your life that there

720
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: would be a breakthrough, because again, like with the culture

721
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 1: that they had, even I was like when German Vase

722
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,959
Speaker 1: first came out, I was like, yo, this is gonna kill.

723
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: That's why we did it. When you Got Me, like

724
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna beat everybody, and even classic we tried, and

725
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: even with well then when Bombs over back Then came

726
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: out and you know that was Andre's version of they

727
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 1: went to a club one night, I heard let's do that,

728
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: But I never thought.

729
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 5: I was yeah, because I'm here, I hear you Got Me,

730
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 5: and everybody knows what that is. People hear bombs and

731
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 5: people know it, but they don't like rocket difference between.

732
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: If You Got Me and Bombs over back Then, it's

733
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: like like two pages. There were four hero versus.

734
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 4: Uh zero for versus like something from metal Heads. You know,

735
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, it's completely different. It's the same gundre,

736
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 4: completely different sides of this.

737
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 6: Plus you just teased us anyway, I've been waiting for

738
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 6: the continuation of what that you just teased us with

739
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 6: the end of you Got Me, you know, you know

740
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 6: the I'm just saying, we are still waiting for the red.

741
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 5: But but when you do things like that, though, especially

742
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 5: is like it's such a jungle for us. Was our thing,

743
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 5: Like I'm going to that after school. I'm like, I'm

744
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 5: playing that all throughout school.

745
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 7: I might here like.

746
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 5: Jungleist, amout here losing my mind as a kid, Like

747
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 5: that's our thing. Wherever we go in the world, that's

748
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 5: our thing. So when we heard like, oh shit, it's

749
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 5: on the roots, did like we lost our mortal minds,

750
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 5: Like it was just because people would come take the

751
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 5: music and not give it props. But you guys were

752
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 5: there and like you got people that people loved, like

753
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 5: I'm opening up for you, Like it was like, nah,

754
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 5: they embraced us. It's not on some we came in

755
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 5: to get the vibes and go back, like you guys

756
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 5: spent time with us and our culture.

757
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 7: So it was like respect we liked to Today.

758
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 1: I miss it, so like why do you Well, obviously

759
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: the answer is that the internet has now localized. Okay,

760
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: well I'm saying do you feel as though the Internet

761
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: had as colonized in a bad way? Yes, colonized well,

762
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: and do you feel like the internet has colonized UK culture?

763
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: Because I mean the good news of it is now

764
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: you are all breakout stars and the world can get

765
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: the information at the same time, whereas like there's no breakout,

766
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: there's no But I also feel bad for like, like, okay,

767
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: take miss Dynamite. Remember there was so much hope for

768
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: her to be like, oh my god, this is gonna

769
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: be the next Laurene Hill and blah blah blah, and

770
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: it never happened.

771
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 5: There were other things behind the scenes that with that though,

772
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 5: like it it's real life and it's a culture thing

773
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 5: and you have to make a choice. And I don't

774
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 5: know her personally in that space to say, well she

775
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 5: chose blah blah blah or she did this, but you know,

776
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 5: people give up on what they don't when you don't

777
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 5: fit into a mold or you don't fit into what

778
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 5: they think, you know, So there was stuff with.

779
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: It, you mean, the audience of the artists, the audience.

780
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 5: And the labels, you know, like she wasn't probably going

781
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 5: to do a certain amount of things you know, and

782
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 5: she had a kid bang in the middle, and at

783
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 5: that point that wasn't the excuse. But I'm saying like,

784
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 5: because look, I walk into a room after her right

785
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 5: after it to get signed, and I can up front.

786
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 7: Someone literally said to me, well, we're just working with

787
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 7: and she and looked at me like I can't take

788
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 7: that risk.

789
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 8: And I was just like, really, I don't have a

790
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 8: boyfriend about to say get Rightnant said us was hurt

791
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 8: about that, and I was just like, you got the

792
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 8: last word wild, how about it.

793
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 4: It's safe to say everybody in this room has heard

794
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 4: Amy Hye House's debut album, Frank Yeah. I was working

795
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 4: at Universal when that album was out here in the

796
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 4: United States and it was supposed to come out here

797
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 4: and they took it off the schedule because they didn't

798
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 4: know what to do with it.

799
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 7: Crazy.

800
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, it didn't really feel like it was a

801
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: hard cell. You just listened to the record sounds.

802
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 7: Like me to hit and roots records and radio. I

803
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 7: likes anything different the record in that time.

804
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 4: But the thing is like anybody, like anybody I played

805
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 4: that record for like they're like, oh, what is who

806
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 4: is that?

807
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: What is that? Did most people don't know about Frank.

808
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 1: Most people think like to back it for good contention.

809
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 1: People thought that that was like her debut. So when

810
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: you're making uh, well, okay, what were the steps that

811
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: led to uh the eighteenth.

812
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 7: Day my first album? I okay?

813
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 5: So I took the example. I've been in underground arts

814
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 5: for my whole life. I've been like an independent on

815
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 5: underground arts for.

816
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 7: My whole life.

817
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 5: And I was the girl that was like, I'm gonna

818
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 5: go make these records. I'm gonna go find a distribution deal.

819
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 5: And I read this book by yourself. Yep, no manager, I.

820
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 7: Know at the time.

821
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 5: I've had I've had managers, but I would direct them.

822
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 7: I'm very much the king of my castle.

823
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I direct and I listened, and I pay attention,

824
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 5: and I work with people who are incredible. But I'm

825
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 5: very much an instant gut person. So I was like, man,

826
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 5: look these people out here. Every time we go to

827
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 5: a label, they keep talking about we don't know what

828
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 5: to do, so let's show them.

829
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 7: And I was like, well, let's go get these distribution deals.

830
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 5: And so I had the one. I went to it.

831
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 5: I went to a bunch of labels. They were like, we

832
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 5: don't know. I said, cool, I'm gonna sure you what

833
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 5: to do. Got my distribution deal. We sold five thousand

834
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 5: hands to hand and also like digitally and like not

835
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 5: digitally but like on the internet.

836
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 7: At the time, right we were sending like one.

837
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 5: Or two CDs a week, which was great at the time,

838
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 5: and then around Europe and the UK, but also five

839
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 5: thousand within a month. After going to the labels and

840
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 5: them saying we don't know what to do, had a

841
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 5: really dope publicist and she put me on every magazine

842
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 5: you could find a couple of covers where they were

843
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 5: struggling to get their artists and I had no deal.

844
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 7: It was just me and my me and my label Stellards.

845
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: What what happened so that the whole time we were together,

846
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: you was you were too short out the trunk.

847
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 5: Out and then and then and then the next set,

848
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 5: the next set of times. I definitely was like on

849
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 5: V two and the same person that was like I

850
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 5: don't get it, was like, I guess I should sign you.

851
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 5: I was like, just so we did the deal, and

852
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 5: even throughout that whole period he was looking at me like,

853
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 5: so that record free you wrote it.

854
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 7: I had to get the producer on the phone.

855
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 5: The disrespect was so thick and so real about young

856
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 5: black artists. You could have possibly written a record that

857
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 5: thorough off your own head and off your own heart

858
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 5: because you're a little black girl from the hood.

859
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 7: How like you guys don't do that.

860
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 5: It was that that kind of I called the producer

861
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 5: and I said, so, did you write any of the

862
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 5: words or Melody said no, I just play guitar, I said,

863
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 5: and I put a phone now, And this guy was

864
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 5: so angry and mortified and like we just go out

865
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 5: of his way to stop everything with the second album.

866
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 5: And that's when I know, how did you get.

867
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 7: Even get to the thirteenth eighteenth day?

868
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: No, but how did you even get James and Omar?

869
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: And you got John Legend on the first record?

870
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 5: Yeah? I just I was recording Hi Hello.

871
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 7: The Kanye story is real, like I really did.

872
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 4: I was in La recording and I love that story

873
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 4: because because I mean, now, Kanye being who he is,

874
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 4: you know, you would think that was a Kanye move.

875
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 7: It's a different gun.

876
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was a different Kanye than but you

877
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 4: would think, you know, now, knowing who Kanye is, you

878
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 4: would go up and ask for you know Kanye's inflation,

879
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 4: but you went up and ask for John Legend?

880
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, because his voice is incredible, And I was I

881
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 5: get I get my instinct again, right.

882
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 7: I was like, na, this guy's voice.

883
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: I think.

884
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 5: My boyfriend at time was like, if you don't just

885
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 5: go find this guy because you just out here smiling.

886
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 5: I mean, it's cute and all, but like also like

887
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 5: I was like, no, I have to find him.

888
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 7: And then it was just fading.

889
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 6: Did you know about his education at the time, And like,

890
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 6: I have a feeling that has a lot to do

891
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 6: with his success.

892
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 5: So that's why I was like, John's a smart guy,

893
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 5: but also he's he's the same thing. He's instinct to

894
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 5: a degree, you know. And we met traveling and I

895
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 5: was like, yo, I was finding all this is lovely.

896
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 5: We're in Record Plant in l A. And I'm like, yo,

897
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 5: I've got like two dollars to my name to get

898
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 5: back to the hotel. Can we wrap this up type deal?

899
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 5: Like I have to leave in a couple of hours,

900
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 5: And he was. He was there and we connected up

901
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 5: and I left and he was like, yeah, I just

902
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 5: like your drive and the fact that you didn't come

903
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 5: in here giving a crap about a yeay or whoever's

904
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 5: in the studio is like, no, I came to find

905
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 5: you to do this record that I have pre recorded

906
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 5: vocals and lyrics to. Can you sing this pop please?

907
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 5: And he was like live me here, and I was like,

908
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 5: I gave it to him, blade it. I was like,

909
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 5: listen to your own time, all right. I had a

910
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 5: hard drive and everything. I remember it cost so much money.

911
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 5: I gave him the hard drive.

912
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 7: I was so tight, the whole hard drive terrabike. No,

913
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 7: I don't know. And then like I left and he

914
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 7: called me. He was like, yeah, it's good. It's good, dude.

915
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: I've known you forever. I never knew the film and

916
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: Louise ending the card jump that it took. Damn dude,

917
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: how come I never did that story.

918
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 6: I don't have to stop time to stop and talk.

919
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 7: For real, write a book about all these moments.

920
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 1: But like.

921
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 5: This has been my whole I don't I don't wait

922
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 5: for the opening. I'll just push through the door, you know.

923
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 5: If I feel the instinct, it's like go go, go,

924
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 5: go go, you know.

925
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: So even then, I mean, I'm almost certain it was

926
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: just just to get to above water level was a goal.

927
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: Not even to like it wasn't even he I'm gonna

928
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: really kill this game and da da da da da.

929
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: So I mean, by the time you get to the

930
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: second record, what are you thinking.

931
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 5: By the time we got to Shine, I was grateful

932
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 5: for John in a way that like people, you know what,

933
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 5: I'm this person.

934
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 7: Very loyal, I don't care what.

935
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 5: John stuck his neck out for me without thinking, like

936
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 5: everybody that is rare mine and everybody in his team

937
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 5: at the time was like what is this Like it

938
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,959
Speaker 5: was smoothie Like they dissed me to my face, like.

939
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 7: I mean, you don't know Aretha like that. I know Aretha.

940
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 7: I'm just not an Aretha singer.

941
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 5: Like and it was like a lot of different shots

942
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 5: at me because I was supposed to be this kind

943
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 5: of black girl and I come and rapping and singing

944
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 5: and out of a smoother voice and I'm confident and

945
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 5: you're not gonna tell me nothing. I came here with

946
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 5: lubatons and I came here with my with my fashion

947
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 5: on my vibes.

948
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 7: You feel me else.

949
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 5: I was very much like I'm not going to give

950
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 5: you all those facts, but like also I'm not going

951
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 5: to take it to heart. I'm just gonna do what

952
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 5: I came here to do. And and a lot of

953
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 5: people shout him like why you sign her, Like this

954
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 5: doesn't make no sense, this is a terrible investment, blah

955
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 5: blah blah blah blah. And he was like, I've seen her,

956
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 5: I've seen her work, I've seen a girl.

957
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 7: Trust me. I'm just here for the ride. He literally

958
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 7: was saying it to me like, look, if we don't

959
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 7: need to work together in ten years, please live your

960
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 7: best life. And essentially we did.

961
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 5: But you know, but he stuck his neck out for

962
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 5: me in a way that is unprecedented, and I'm forever

963
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 5: grateful because I went to the label that were like nah,

964
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 5: and then like I guess I should sign you. And

965
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 5: I said to them, after like the first two meetings

966
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 5: of like, you don't really do this, it's a lie.

967
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 7: Go find your ghost writer.

968
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 5: I said to them, So look, next album I have

969
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 5: John Legends he wants to except produce it. He won

970
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 5: about five hundred Grammys. This guy is touring out the world.

971
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 5: These albums gold at this point in the UK, Europe

972
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 5: and the whole world. And they said to me, who's that?

973
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 5: And I wanted to punch the wall. I said let

974
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 5: me go. I said let me go, and they were

975
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 5: like what I said, no, let me go, Please let

976
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 5: me go. And then he was like, I said to him,

977
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 5: so the second album, id ast you to exact produce,

978
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 5: I'm going to leave the label. He was like, I'll

979
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 5: sign you. I said, you sure. He's like, yeah, all right, come.

980
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: On, this guy never happens like that, never accepting a case.

981
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 7: Are you the only release from that? I'm like, wait

982
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 7: a minute.

983
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

984
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 7: He set the label up to put me out John.

985
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 5: School Record, John Jon's a G for that.

986
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 7: People don't know that part, so everyone thinks it's the

987
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 7: A but it's John.

988
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: Wow. He did.

989
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 5: He did a lot as far as having my back

990
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 5: and just support me and not really taking the credit.

991
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 5: As far as like you know, where people like, oh,

992
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 5: people say, oh he wrote this, and he wrote that

993
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 5: for He's like, he's not the one out there shouting it.

994
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 7: People make up their assumptions. You know. He lets me,

995
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 7: he knows, he knows my capabilities and stuff.

996
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 5: Have y'all reconnected, So now that y'all live in the

997
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 5: same town, I seen him. I see him around like

998
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 5: we call I'm good friends with the team. We're still

999
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 5: get like that's family.

1000
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, true, true to how music history works. I

1001
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: believe that I've heard the story before. The legend of

1002
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: American Boy was that was it the last song made

1003
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: and it's just like an afterthought it was.

1004
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 7: Will didn't believe that the record was a hit, like

1005
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 7: the music was a hit.

1006
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 5: Because it came from yeah, right, he said, He's like,

1007
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 5: I don't think that's I said, trust me, this is

1008
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 5: what we listened to our own this is this is it,

1009
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 5: this is it.

1010
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 7: And I was literally on the beach in Miami and

1011
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 7: song it was BB Records.

1012
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: It it was the Interscope the Songs about Girls, the

1013
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: one that nobody.

1014
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 7: B b in the UK. Yeah, in the UK.

1015
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 4: It came out on Interscope here Songs about Girls, Yeah,

1016
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 4: the one that at least nobody here really did.

1017
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: They had a couple of joints on when you said,

1018
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: rhyme over that beat or I want to.

1019
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 5: Sing over We wrote it like three minutes. I woke

1020
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 5: with it the next day an hour and then and

1021
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 5: then but that every time we played it to people,

1022
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 5: that energy would just shoot up, like it was it

1023
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 5: was like palpable sitting in the room played the record,

1024
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 5: everyone was like, oh vibes.

1025
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say that probably American Boy

1026
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: is probably one of the few songs in this millennium

1027
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: now that we at least have two decades under our belt,

1028
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: not the age of saw too late. No, especially with

1029
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: the especially the way that information happens and like one

1030
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: song just instantly replaces another song without you know, I mean,

1031
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 1: you remember how many times you've heard Crazy bout Nols

1032
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: Barkley when it first came out. It's sort of like

1033
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: you might hear it now, but it's almost like I

1034
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: feel like maybe American Boy next to Crazy and Love,

1035
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: Like that's one of the songs that won't ever die.

1036
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: I it's still on my DJ set right now.

1037
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 6: Somebody just made a remix on I just I was like,

1038
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 6: they still make your remixes still.

1039
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's about about three in the past two years.

1040
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: TAM's joint. Yeah, I was about to say, like that.

1041
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 5: They trap it out, they put it on TikTok Live

1042
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 5: your Best Life, that's what we want.

1043
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm afraid to go there.

1044
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 7: Foolishness is amazing.

1045
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: But I gotta go there to know what what song

1046
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: to play.

1047
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 4: To play, you know, Taken My Life Back, No, more

1048
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 4: social media for me jealous?

1049
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: So was it ever a point where it's like tiring,

1050
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: like again, like, are you somewhere between Nirvana smells like

1051
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 1: teen Spirit where they refuse to do it now and day?

1052
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: I saw where me and myself and I where they

1053
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: just sing we hate the song all over the things

1054
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: like is it that? Or you're just like nope, I

1055
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: know where my bread is buttered.

1056
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 7: And I had to reset.

1057
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 5: I had records in the UK that people will never

1058
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 5: not let me perform, like that's ninety eighty for me

1059
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 5: and to the point where.

1060
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we were down what you said ninety eight?

1061
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 7: I'm just like, do you know the words? Because I do?

1062
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 7: To the second person, are I've forgetting?

1063
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 5: There's so many words in my head, so many my head.

1064
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have a telepromt the fifty five. It is gonna,

1065
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 5: it's gonna happen.

1066
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 7: But he did. I had to.

1067
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 5: I had to reset my energy with that because I

1068
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 5: literally pray for records like that no and I got one,

1069
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 5: and I was like, how dare I be ungrateful and

1070
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 5: saying I don't want to sing it?

1071
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 7: And it makes me happy?

1072
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 5: There's so many ways to sing that record and like

1073
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 5: sometimes I don't say it too and then you have

1074
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 5: to consider that.

1075
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 7: Then I'm saying genuine that that's my new reference. He said,

1076
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 7: if you're.

1077
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: Lord, this is amazing. They sing everything everywhere.

1078
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 7: He just why, I'm just.

1079
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 5: I'm the one in the back screaming, look by me.

1080
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 7: It's me genuine Hi. That was this is terrible.

1081
00:55:48,920 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 5: I was twelve singing something related to say.

1082
00:55:54,760 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: That related to I'm a character on Parks and rec

1083
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, and genuine is me and Redda's

1084
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: first cousin. That's revealed in the last episode show. Yes,

1085
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: it's yeah, you don't watch.

1086
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 7: I didn't know what's still parks.

1087
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 1: Everywhere. It's the mood tang of comedy.

1088
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 7: I know everybody came from there.

1089
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: It's one of the best. Yes, but one of the

1090
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: longest running running jokes was about her long lost brother,

1091
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 1: which they had me play. That's genuine is her first cousin.

1092
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, she's on a Netflix show.

1093
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: That's right, Yes, exactly, genuine.

1094
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 7: I'm going to go watch. Thank you. It's amazing.

1095
00:56:46,960 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: It's shout out to my first cousine, Elgin Lumpkins for

1096
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: all of me, which, okay, slight side note, I'll admit it,

1097
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: because Bill's like, you fake motherfucker. You know, I forgot

1098
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: about the interlude. I totally forgot about that. So even

1099
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: in reuh capping your music, I was like, oh, ship,

1100
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: I totally forgot about that. What was your what was

1101
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: your What was the impetus or at least the process

1102
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: in creating this record?

1103
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 5: I was going through a lot, you got. I was

1104
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 5: coming off of like Shine the American boy. All of my

1105
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 5: worlds were completely shifting. And I say that in the

1106
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 5: nicest way. Friends with Wilent. I was Wilent boyfriends.

1107
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: What is that whirlwind?

1108
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 5: Like you're not on the ground and you're trying to

1109
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 5: desperately hold onto the ground that you know, because like

1110
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 5: moving it out from under you anyway.

1111
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: And with nine siblings also, how does that affect you? Oh?

1112
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 7: It was wild?

1113
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 5: Like my little sister. My family moved out of London

1114
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 5: because so my little sister, one of them was so hyped.

1115
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 5: It was just it was unsettling for them. And that's

1116
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 5: when I realized, I say it to people, to your success.

1117
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: I got siblings too.

1118
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 7: Not on purpose.

1119
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 5: One of them got a little whild with it and

1120
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 5: then we had to move the whole Then the whole

1121
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 5: family moved because it was like taking my stuff to

1122
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 5: school and to do the school thing, and like all

1123
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 5: my sisters this, and people liking you for the trainers

1124
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 5: you wore or you brought that your sister's trainers, and

1125
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 5: then news people creeping up around my family house. We

1126
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 5: still sort of lived in the hood a bit and

1127
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 5: going to the drug dealers two doors down and talking

1128
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 5: and I was like, my littlest brother, who's an account

1129
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 5: and a lawyer and an incredible brilliant young man, had

1130
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 5: to go up there and be a big gangster, and

1131
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 5: it's just like, nah, that's my actual family I raised,

1132
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 5: and nah, you know, so I'm dealing with that whilst

1133
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 5: never be in the home and the people that you're

1134
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 5: trying to call your family were out here just not

1135
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:05,959
Speaker 5: having your back.

1136
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 7: It was just a lot going on during the all

1137
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 7: of Me period.

1138
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 5: And then I'm dating a dude who was just wildly trash.

1139
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: We all are trash, no, not all of you.

1140
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 7: He was used to start out that way, you know,

1141
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 7: ten years ago he was trash.

1142
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 5: So here we are, uh, almost ten years ago, and

1143
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 5: I was going through a lot and trying to just

1144
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 5: hold onto something that looked like love or looked like

1145
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 5: home and it was all needed to go.

1146
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: Is it hard navigating that? Ol? You know, I know

1147
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: that where most people either had is their home, but

1148
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: I mean you moved to the States and kind of

1149
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: without any stable family. Well, I don't know. For some people,

1150
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: getting away from the family might be the necessary.

1151
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 5: No, it wasn't necessary more than I just knew I

1152
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 5: had to do that for my career because it was

1153
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 5: like I one, it was just tiring every three months

1154
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 5: getting on the flight and your energy just is up

1155
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 5: and down, right, you know that toured extensively, Yeah, for

1156
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 5: a very long time, and so I imagine doing that

1157
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 5: and then everyone demands all this stuff of you. So

1158
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm just gonna move there. My mom

1159
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 5: was like, I knew it was gonna happen. Eventually, they

1160
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 5: helped me. They sent me off and they would try

1161
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 5: and come and visit, and then the visits dwindled, and

1162
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 5: then I was never home so it didn't really matter.

1163
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 5: And then I would go home to London and I

1164
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 5: couldn't go home, and so they come and see me

1165
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 5: at the hotel for two hours right before I go

1166
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 5: to the to the airport again. And it was just

1167
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 5: like I lost touch per se, not on purpose, but

1168
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 5: by force of we.

1169
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 7: Just didn't have the time.

1170
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 5: So it would be like I was so grateful for

1171
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 5: the hotel suites that I had because the whole.

1172
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 7: Family could come.

1173
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 5: I come crash and I just got to sit down

1174
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 5: and my mom would bring African food and we would

1175
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 5: sit down. Yeah, right, and the whole vibe and they

1176
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 5: were gone, and I have to go back to being

1177
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 5: a stellar ro.

1178
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 7: But you know, there's a lot happening.

1179
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: Actually, there's a question I do have that I'm probably

1180
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: certain I wouldn't be able to ask had you come

1181
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: on the show a year ago. Now you're dealing with Okay,

1182
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: where when we say the fuckery that is this current administration,

1183
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: you're actually dealing with this two times over. Yeah, and

1184
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: so what is what is the not not you know,

1185
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: def Con five or whatever, but what's the current concern

1186
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: of yours or level of fear concern when it comes

1187
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: to you traveling overseas or your family coming over here

1188
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: or you Because I see where this is about to

1189
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: go if Old Money gets a second term in office. Well,

1190
01:01:52,880 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: I mean two weeks ago, there's there's been nine other

1191
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: countries added and all them from Africa because of.

1192
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 7: The year the return you think, wow, you really think that.

1193
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 7: I believes Gana added to that.

1194
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 5: No, but because they have other deals with different US countries.

1195
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 5: But I feel like it was just the idea. Here's

1196
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 5: my thing that I've seen you give the energy of

1197
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 5: you scare people, You make them feel like you know

1198
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 5: what I mean, and that is that does more for

1199
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 5: people's energy than people's perception of what's going on than.

1200
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 7: The actual thing, you know what I mean? And I think.

1201
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,919
Speaker 5: Ye, And it's like the fear of like, oh well,

1202
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 5: now it's gonna like can we really go there? But meanwhile,

1203
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 5: the energy at the top of it was like, we

1204
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 5: can do this. It's not as crazy as what.

1205
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: So it's travel been hard for you coming in and

1206
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: out of the States, like like longer at.

1207
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 5: The as soon as I saw that going I actually

1208
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 5: wouldn't apply for my passport.

1209
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I have dual citizenship, okay.

1210
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 5: So like because I was like, nah, no, no, no, no,

1211
01:02:55,560 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 5: all my things are here, so let.

1212
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 7: Me make sure I'm good on both sides of the

1213
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 7: of the of the war. Your family's passports, says Britain

1214
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 7: on Yeah.

1215
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 5: But the beautiful thing is we also, like I said,

1216
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 5: I'm very clear, so to your citizenships there we have salive'

1217
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 5: seing the own passports.

1218
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 7: We have different we could go.

1219
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 5: You know, they've done We've done smart things, strategically smart.

1220
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 5: My brother and sisters I love them for this. They're

1221
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 5: very smart about how they handle themselves. And I'm proud

1222
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 5: of them and that, you know, they really hold their

1223
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 5: side of family thing. They don't look at me like

1224
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 5: you got to do. You know, they really are brilliant

1225
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 5: in their own rights. So I'm proud of them. They

1226
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 5: hold it down.

1227
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: Five passports, never going to jail.

1228
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 5: Okay, how about that take the heart that's too heart. Yes,

1229
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 5: it's not a game because people, he's wild. This guy's crazy.

1230
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,959
Speaker 1: So now now that we are where we are, and

1231
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: well the afore mentioned twenty one Savage being one of

1232
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: the one of the biggest UK I'm not. I'm still

1233
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: like like, oh wait, you're just finding out.

1234
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 7: Now, No, like like whatever I found out.

1235
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: Exactly so well, I'm just saying that it's you big.

1236
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: It's like, how do you feel about the current climate

1237
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: of today's artists that are coming from the UK and

1238
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: kind of the.

1239
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 7: I love it.

1240
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 5: I would love to see more of them actually do

1241
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 5: the effective work here though. Okay, Like, besides the big

1242
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,439
Speaker 5: pop artists that they pull out the UK, I love

1243
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 5: to see like the R and B and hip hop

1244
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 5: artists do more of the groundwork because I know that

1245
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 5: everyone's always like, yo, you really did it, and I'm

1246
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 5: just like, you should be here doing the radio runs

1247
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 5: and doing the doing the like the smaller the black

1248
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 5: culture things, because it's it's like they're selling you on

1249
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 5: one thing. But the thing I know I had to

1250
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 5: do with the All of Me album, well, thank You

1251
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 5: was work backwards. So American Boy came and it blew right.

1252
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 5: Black people here didn't really know me like that though.

1253
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 5: So when I did Thank You, I was like, it's fine,

1254
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 5: we'ginning and they were like, no, no, no, You're going

1255
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 5: to Mississippi. No no, no, You're going to go see

1256
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 5: some black people and you're really gonna talk and be

1257
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 5: out there.

1258
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 7: And I had to do it.

1259
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 5: And that's the stuff that I think that people miss

1260
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 5: when they say like, oh, you're you're big around the world,

1261
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 5: You're going America, You're gonna clean But you know, Joe

1262
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 5: In and in Champagne Illinois don't know you. You know,

1263
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 5: and it's like and you know, and maybe it's over

1264
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 5: there and Mississippi has no clue.

1265
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 7: Just not.

1266
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: My grandmom.

1267
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 5: It's true, like but like real folks who are just

1268
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 5: like in the same way that, like I was.

1269
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: Going to say, yeah that it just hit me.

1270
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 7: I don't know, so in.

1271
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 5: The same kind of way, like look, it might be

1272
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 5: the poppingist thing and you might look like, but go

1273
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 5: and do the world my grandma and grandmama, like, you know, like.

1274
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 1: I was going to say, so, that's that was smart

1275
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: of you to yo, you're just hitting me now.

1276
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 7: And nobody else has followed. Nobody's looking.

1277
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: I can't name it mountain times that we performed in

1278
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: Mississippi or Alabama or you know, I mean, at least

1279
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: in the last I mean, we don't do miss the

1280
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: down South states as much as we do our regular

1281
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: because y'all.

1282
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 6: Were built on colleges too, though, don't you think so?

1283
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 6: Because of the foundation in a way.

1284
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, but then you also have a different way into

1285
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 5: people's spirits with TV, so it's a different you know.

1286
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, but you still got to get the black vote.

1287
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 1: I mean, well, but still.

1288
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 6: Black people populating in that audience on Jami in this

1289
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 6: research and that.

1290
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: Kids put them because all our families are big in

1291
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: this for tickets.

1292
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 6: Has nice super Bowl commercial.

1293
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 1: Boss, thank you, you know.

1294
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 5: Matter what they got to do that, I still am

1295
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 5: just like I want to see a Georgia Smith come

1296
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 5: here and do that run and I want to see

1297
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 5: like I want to see miss Banks coming here and

1298
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 5: do you know?

1299
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 7: And I said, and it's that fine line of you

1300
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 7: you don't have to, but you should, you know, I

1301
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 7: said to Sims.

1302
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 5: I was like, you don't have to move here, but

1303
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 5: you should come here and stay for a while or

1304
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 5: come whatever you want to do, like but you don't

1305
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 5: have to, but you should for a while.

1306
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:15,919
Speaker 1: Come.

1307
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 5: You can't sell somebody or tell someone that you get

1308
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 5: their culture if you're not hearing it, you know, not

1309
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 5: the same way like like you went to the UK

1310
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,439
Speaker 5: and you lived it, you could talk to it.

1311
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: Not for nothing. Well, I mean we did it because

1312
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: like we knew they would accept us. But not for nothing.

1313
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: When you're when you're fine and okay, you have a

1314
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:49,439
Speaker 1: potential second chapter as a manager, or at least that

1315
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: of like almost Carroll Lewis like an agent, because I

1316
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: don't think that your average when when when a person

1317
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: comes from uh, from where they are to the United States.

1318
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: I think nine times out of ten they're just thinking

1319
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 1: of New York, La Vegas, maybe Chicago, like a major

1320
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: city whereas you know, people aren't thinking of long range.

1321
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 7: I had to physically do it. That's why I know

1322
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 7: it works.

1323
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 6: You know, like once you see them, don't you see

1324
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 6: your stuf? Like once you see them and you go

1325
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 6: to their town, they love you for life.

1326
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 5: They love you for life. Look, I went to Selma

1327
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 5: and sang Conqueror on the on the not on the

1328
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 5: next day when TV wanted the special and I met

1329
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 5: Tremaine Hawkins. Two to me is like the garden arm

1330
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 5: in gospel things like that, and she knew my record,

1331
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 5: and my.

1332
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 7: Whole heart exploded, like wow.

1333
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 5: Like things like that like lose I lose my mind

1334
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 5: about things like that because it's like this is who

1335
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 5: I grew up listening to as an eight nine ten

1336
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 5: year old in my mom's kitchen and I'm sitting there

1337
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 5: going what and She's stand in front of my face

1338
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 5: singing Conqueror And I almost collapsed, Like but you don't.

1339
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 5: You're not gonna get to those moments where it's those

1340
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 5: people we sound on their shoulders if you don't go

1341
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 5: and touch them there the people, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1342
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 5: you're not going to get those And I just feel

1343
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 5: like we have so much great we write the rules,

1344
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 5: come here and talk to people about the rules that

1345
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 5: we write in like, come and help them understand the

1346
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 5: new swerve, the new energy about it all. And from

1347
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 5: our point of view, like it's it's it's wildly lonely.

1348
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 7: It's been wildly lonely for a very long time being

1349
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 7: me and Marsha, Right.

1350
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 9: It's just I tell people all the time, show you

1351
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 9: have to build a tribe, like there has to be

1352
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 9: nine at least nine like minded people.

1353
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1354
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 5: Well I started my label like on that because I

1355
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 5: was like, well, I have all of this to give

1356
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 5: and I want I want to be able to leave

1357
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 5: this legacy, like do the work and you know, come

1358
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,560
Speaker 5: here and put time in and you're not going to

1359
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 5: sleep for like twenty years, but it's all right.

1360
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 6: It'll be okay.

1361
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I have fun when you're dead, man,

1362
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 5: that's like the only option you'll have.

1363
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 7: Like, so, also, do you like LA now? I like it?

1364
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 7: Do you like it as a single lady?

1365
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: No?

1366
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 6: Okay, I don't think I wanted.

1367
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 7: To clarify because you part is. But here's the thing.

1368
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, I have to change my energy about all

1369
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 5: that things, all that stuff because I potential. It's definitely

1370
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 5: has a couple of potentials out there. I definitely in La. Yeah,

1371
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 5: it's like two three.

1372
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 7: I think it's around.

1373
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 6: Yes, people don't know that that's hard in La.

1374
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 7: This is hard.

1375
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: This is the podcast I'm about navigating the single life.

1376
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 7: Short version is trash. No, no, it's not trash. It's

1377
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 7: just my friends always say to me, Look, as hard

1378
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 7: as you.

1379
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 5: Work on your music and your life and your career,

1380
01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 5: you have to work on your love life.

1381
01:10:59,160 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 7: Exactly.

1382
01:10:59,600 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: It's hard.

1383
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 7: So I had to change.

1384
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 5: But wait and you to come out of town. They

1385
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:06,959
Speaker 5: have to come from outtown.

1386
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 6: And then she gave you the speeches she gave me

1387
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 6: about listen, like you have to open your mind when

1388
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 6: you come to l A.

1389
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 7: Angela Nizzle.

1390
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 6: She was like, Angela Nizzle and Don were like, listen,

1391
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 6: you got a day outside your race.

1392
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 7: I was like, but they don't, they don't. I tried.

1393
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 7: It was it was.

1394
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 6: It was interesting, right, It's just not the same, Like

1395
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 6: why go for the second if you want.

1396
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 7: It is the accent.

1397
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: I know accent, it's no what I.

1398
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 6: Want, what I want and the day I mean I

1399
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 6: want to.

1400
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 7: I want what I want, you know what?

1401
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 5: But like l A has opened me out though, like

1402
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 5: I am a lot more like I see two sides

1403
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 5: of everything.

1404
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 7: I balanced.

1405
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 5: It's how is that person feeling when they like, I'm

1406
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:56,440
Speaker 5: not human because I can't be a judge baptist.

1407
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 7: Like I've done too much.

1408
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 5: I've been through too much to like put anybody you

1409
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 5: on anything, for anything, on anybody and say well that's that,

1410
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 5: And you know, I just kind of I'm open, but

1411
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 5: also like I want I.

1412
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 7: Want compromise on something. Every day I have to sit

1413
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 7: and be like.

1414
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: I mean, you know something you do sometimes chameleonize yourself

1415
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: into another person. Slight confession. Okay, so when I went

1416
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: to Smart, Black and Funny, it took me eight minutes

1417
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 1: to realize I was sitting with you and Melanie Fiona.

1418
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 7: Are you serious?

1419
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 1: I didn't hear a trace of accent, and I was like, oh,

1420
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: these girls are so nice to me.

1421
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 7: That's wow. We said that I probably had different hair too, and.

1422
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: Then Melanie caught me, yeah, your hair was changed. I

1423
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 1: was sitting behind you at first, and then Melanie said something.

1424
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: I said, wait, I feel like I know this person

1425
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: and her hair was different, and then your accent came out.

1426
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 7: Oh fuck, look.

1427
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 5: Because this is this has been my I've been learning

1428
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 5: American accents too, because every time I go so I'm

1429
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 5: doing acting more acting job.

1430
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 7: I want to Cynthia Rea. But go ahead, get to it.

1431
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 7: You know that's the thing.

1432
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 6: A mirror coming over here. They give me acting jobs.

1433
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: You know you're in.

1434
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 7: I've been doing it, let me tell you.

1435
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 5: But like, the thing is, they keep giving me these

1436
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 5: rolls A laugh for my bad is your bike? Because

1437
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 5: I'm just like, first of all, what so they keep

1438
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 5: asking me to be strippers, and I keep being like.

1439
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 7: Where I don't see it.

1440
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 5: I don't have enough you walk away? You know what more,

1441
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 5: I don't have enough for this, okay, and looking like.

1442
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 7: I had to. I had beef with one of my agents.

1443
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 5: Yo, stop sending me in these damn like we know, no, bro,

1444
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 5: better say I guess the hustlers.

1445
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 7: Relax. No, I didn't get that well, I should got

1446
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 7: that one. Not even fun.

1447
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 5: I could have learned how to actually strip, but I

1448
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 5: didn't want to bend on the super Bowl.

1449
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 6: But I have a mild I'm just joking because I

1450
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 6: love her.

1451
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 5: Wait, I love by the way.

1452
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 7: I had. I had a time. It was no stripping story.

1453
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: Sorry.

1454
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 5: I was in the strip club first time I heard

1455
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 5: my song outside in Atlanta.

1456
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:35,759
Speaker 7: No magic, magic American boy, yeah ship.

1457
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 5: No, it was onyx On and we went there to

1458
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 5: treat the guys because like life on the road. And

1459
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 5: I was like, let's go to trick left there, no right,

1460
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 5: how they gotta go wings, Sure, let's.

1461
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 1: Go yes, based on their wings, shout out, shoutouts.

1462
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 6: All right, listen, you can't even get the names out fast.

1463
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 7: And I know it's so many good strip clubs, good food.

1464
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm I found Wait, there's a good.

1465
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 7: I love it. It's good because I was like, well,

1466
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 7: here we are, and the other day I was like,

1467
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:11,759
Speaker 7: here we are. This is interesting.

1468
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 1: What is it.

1469
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 7: It's Sam Sam Browse or something like that.

1470
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 5: It's downtown and well I didn't eat the food, but

1471
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:22,719
Speaker 5: the girls, the ladies were love me. And so here's

1472
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 5: the thing. I go in there and I'm just like, again,

1473
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 5: I'm not judging.

1474
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 7: I don't care.

1475
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,600
Speaker 5: They'll be your best life, right, And it was just

1476
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 5: always weird when they play my record and the dude

1477
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 5: set it up like we.

1478
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 7: Got some so remember.

1479
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 5: You had you had Lloyd in the house, you had

1480
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 5: like Lloyd and this is this is years ago Lloyd

1481
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,719
Speaker 5: bow Wow and a few other singers right early singers,

1482
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 5: R and B singers, and they're like that side of

1483
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,560
Speaker 5: the club and I'm just like, oh, ship, oh this

1484
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 5: like ah and I'm just in there trying to like okay,

1485
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 5: but I'm meet over.

1486
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 7: And then the guy, my girl, my assistant.

1487
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 5: Had told the dude that I was there, and she's like, yeah,

1488
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 5: we got real singing in the house.

1489
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 1: And I was like.

1490
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 7: Ship, and then he puts the regular I do too.

1491
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 5: My fan is and I was just like in bask

1492
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 5: and he goes to me, y'all sing the song and

1493
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 5: then I'm singing American Boy, It's gonna and she's like

1494
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 5: she's major and I'm just like, oh, that's pretty good.

1495
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 5: Comes down and then she's like I just love you, you

1496
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 5: just so do You're so cute, you so like you're

1497
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 5: so classy.

1498
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 7: And I was like yeah, okay, and then she hugs

1499
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 7: me and it's like is that weird? Awkward? Yeah, you know,

1500
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 7: and then it happened again.

1501
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 5: It's stadium with thank you with stadium and ship was no.

1502
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 5: They played break my Heart and then they all came

1503
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 5: come up to me in a line like a.

1504
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 7: Greeting with me and Greek line.

1505
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 5: I was like church, they didn't dance for you, so

1506
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 5: but they were like coming to be like nice. So

1507
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 5: it was like no, you're you like, no, don't. I

1508
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 5: will put money in the in the dancer's hand.

1509
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 7: It just considering it.

1510
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 5: It's not gonna happen. I'm an all up. I am

1511
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 5: the killer of vibes. No, I'm like amazing.

1512
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 7: TV story. I had a wild and crazy life.

1513
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 5: No, no, no, Mike, Mike knew about this story. Now,

1514
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 5: the guys hadn't set me up. We were on the

1515
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 5: road and I said to myself, I tweet something like, yo,

1516
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 5: me be like when you I'll be quiet. When I'll

1517
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 5: be quiet when he leaves, I'll be talking again about

1518
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 5: when the first come up on the show, when it

1519
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 5: was first on the show, And I tweet that and

1520
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 5: then team were I was like, yo, what if he

1521
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 5: came to the show tonight, ha ha ha ha. So

1522
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 5: the team make him come to the after party and

1523
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,560
Speaker 5: I'm there like oh, my little sister me Stevie J.

1524
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 5: My little sister comes on the road and she's my

1525
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 5: she's my roadie, my homie.

1526
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 7: She come on the roade and.

1527
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: She's like Yo.

1528
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 5: I was like, Steve, we're having this whole breakdown and

1529
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,879
Speaker 5: our soul right, And stevee J comes.

1530
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 7: In the room and I'm just like, I got ask

1531
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 7: him if this is real? I says, yo. He's like,

1532
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 7: comes up, he say, Yo, get to meet you sis.

1533
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 7: And I'm like hi, and he's like, I said, wait,

1534
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 7: you have to tell me is that real? Like do

1535
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 7: you really be? Is this real? Like the face and

1536
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 7: the face date baby?

1537
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 5: And he does the face and I'm like, okay.

1538
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 7: It gets worse, it gets worse.

1539
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 5: So we end up in the strip club with stebe

1540
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 5: J and my whole team is trying to find a

1541
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 5: way for me to have an interaction with STEVJ and

1542
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 5: the stripper and they're just doing this for their pure

1543
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 5: ships and giggles.

1544
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:49,719
Speaker 7: They're doing this because.

1545
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 5: They're doing this so they can laugh at me and

1546
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 5: so we.

1547
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: So I like it.

1548
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:01,600
Speaker 5: No, I didn't have, but I was like weird. I

1549
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 5: go to the bathroom. On the way back, he grabs

1550
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 5: me and he pulls me to the stage and I'm

1551
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 5: just like, oh, what's gonna happen. I'm really my soul

1552
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 5: like oh. And he calls me and it's like a

1553
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 5: big lady and she's like go in and like she's

1554
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 5: going in that boot He's up and no, and she's

1555
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 5: like this girl is uncomfored. I'm just like yeah, And

1556
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 5: so if I'm standing, if her bootie's facing the audience,

1557
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 5: I'm standing with my right side.

1558
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 7: I remembered it. And he's facing me and he's like, yo,

1559
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 7: look at him.

1560
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: Man.

1561
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 7: I was like what He's like, yo, look at her?

1562
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 6: Looking at her?

1563
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 7: And he says worse things. I'm just like, oh, it's

1564
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 7: all right, she's doing great, Like look at him, ty,

1565
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 7: I'm traumatized. Why are you going to the strip club?

1566
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: You don't?

1567
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 7: I don't, but it's fun and.

1568
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 1: Check it out.

1569
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 5: I gave her the money and I thank you.

1570
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 7: It was so great. She was like keep but I

1571
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 7: feel like they appreciate I don't throw at.

1572
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:07,759
Speaker 1: Them, and I feel you if look where in Vegas

1573
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: we're gonna go. We're gonna go to the expeerimid Rhino

1574
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 1: because they have the best French fries ever.

1575
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 7: Okay, I had been there.

1576
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 5: We had a wild belvet, and I've been all the

1577
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 5: ship clubs and the most polite I.

1578
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 1: Can give you a structured breakdown on the best foods.

1579
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 7: I actually I'm very interested in.

1580
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 1: That in Atlanta. Atlanta is actually the bestrip club in

1581
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 1: Atlanta is actually Follies. Like the best dancers. Yes die no,

1582
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 1: not literally they killed. No, they really want to dance

1583
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 1: at Folly because they have a good rate.

1584
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 6: There, like the old Gold Club I got you.

1585
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because the owner lets them keep their money. Uh,

1586
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: at least more than most do. No, no, no, some will

1587
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: tax the ship. He makes a killing off of the

1588
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 1: bar and more importantly the water, which I don't want

1589
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: to give a secrets away charges for water interesting, yes, well,

1590
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 1: but he has a great deal on bottle water. I

1591
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe a friend of ours, a friend of his,

1592
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 1: a friend of ours, but yeah, yeah, fell off the truck.

1593
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, Follies. It also has great food.

1594
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 6: And commercial to do like a little book. This is

1595
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 6: this is a John said you're not allowed to do those.

1596
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,719
Speaker 7: I mean that would be fun, like I would. I'd

1597
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 7: want to know or do a site. I don't know.

1598
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:48,520
Speaker 7: We're looking for someone they have a green book for entertainment.

1599
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 6: Serious at least they start breakfast after, you know, like four.

1600
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 7: No, real life, I have to talk to you about this.

1601
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: Why has he ever been Steve? I'm nominating myself for

1602
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: this job. So oh god, all right, so we gotta

1603
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 1: wrapped this up, y'all. We we done talked about the

1604
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 1: church in the UK and immigration and pancakes at Folly's.

1605
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 1: So okay, so in love in l A. Yeah, So

1606
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:25,679
Speaker 1: for you, what what is your what is your hope

1607
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 1: for this year? We're already in February, Like, what do you?

1608
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 7: I'm really like, So my main thing is the label

1609
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 7: goes up.

1610
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 5: I have a new artist that I really really really like,

1611
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 5: will go for like in the same way John went

1612
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 5: for me. She's incredible, She's a great singer. She just

1613
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 5: my thing is, I'm not investing in anybody who I

1614
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 5: have to pull from the ground up. I'm investing in

1615
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 5: people who are doing the work and who want to

1616
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 5: actually learn the business and be sustainable on their own.

1617
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 7: You know.

1618
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: So where's she from.

1619
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 7: She's from Illinois.

1620
01:22:52,640 --> 01:23:00,719
Speaker 1: Okay, she's really Illinois, so respectable. What about Chicago?

1621
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 7: Illinois?

1622
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 5: Family in Chicago and like it's she's been working, you know,

1623
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 5: and she's been really trying to do this. So yeah,

1624
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 5: Jamie Woods, that's a hard Jamie Instagram. But she has

1625
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 5: a beautiful voice. She just stands and things. I believe

1626
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 5: she's going to be incredible. You're going to see it.

1627
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 5: But she also knows the business and is learning it quickly,

1628
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 5: you know. And like, so the label's going up, We're

1629
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 5: doing TVN films, documentaries, We're expanding, like the festival space,

1630
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 5: which is you know, I know a lot of things

1631
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 5: that I see and I understand the position that I'm in,

1632
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 5: and I just want to make sure that going forward,

1633
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 5: anybody that comes here and understands that they have this

1634
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 5: outlet and they have this unique space that they can

1635
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 5: really run down whether you know, because we all need

1636
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 5: we needed that person. I needed that person to It's

1637
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 5: the word out helped me and I had to figure

1638
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 5: out a lot of things myself, you know. So yeah,

1639
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 5: mentoring is essentially the key. So I've you know, a

1640
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 5: lot of our has come through and I definitely.

1641
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 1: Touched folks paying it for it.

1642
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 5: That's happening. Yeah, And essence is she is going and

1643
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 5: like we're going again. We have the batchman, the dancer

1644
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 5: or the soca. I think I feel like I don't

1645
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 5: know if I spoke too soon about that, but I

1646
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 5: got so every year you no essence, it's like, yeah,

1647
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 5: it's not.

1648
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 7: We are, it's diaspora. Yeah.

1649
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 5: Last year we did it with them, and it was

1650
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 5: the first year we sold out. It was the highest

1651
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 5: rated like performance, and so this year we're doing it again.

1652
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 5: And my thing was to make sure that whenever we

1653
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 5: touch down and you understand the diasporas here, it's not

1654
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 5: just about it's it's definitely black culture, but also here

1655
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 5: we are because that's where I come from. Like we

1656
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 5: I never do an American boys show. I'm going to

1657
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 5: do a show and it's bash Man, it's dance all,

1658
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 5: it's all the music is John Bassis House, and I

1659
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 5: want people to know that that's we can touch all

1660
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 5: those spaces about feeling like, oh your alternative, we're all

1661
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:00,799
Speaker 5: you're different. Now, this is what we do as people.

1662
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 5: That's what it is.

1663
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 7: So we're doing that way sence, and that's what we do. Yeah,

1664
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 7: hell you shut it out. We're strong and we get

1665
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 7: it down. We're getting it down there.

1666
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 1: You go, yeah, all right, well sell we thank you

1667
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 1: very much. Uh, we're coming and speaking to us. Yes, yes, yes,

1668
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 1: yes Love All all of your product is now streamable. Yeah,

1669
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 1: I see in your local record store a track.

1670
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 7: There new records coming this year.

1671
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 1: So beautiful. That's great to hear. All right, well on

1672
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 1: behalf of the team Supreme, sim Steve Boss Bill.

1673
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 6: Club.

1674
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 1: Yes, we're going to strip club right now. Sorry f

1675
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 1: Tickelo you're still smoking cigarettes and all right we will

1676
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: see you next week on the next go round of

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01:25:54,960 --> 01:26:17,200
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