1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: Supremo, Suprema, Roll Call, Suprema Supremo, Roll Call Supremo Supremo, 3 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: Roll Came Suprema Some Supremo. 4 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: Duke of Earl Yeah, Milton Burl, Yeah, give it a 5 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: twhirl Yeah, London Girl, Suprema Supremo. 6 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: My name is Sugar. Yeah, what's up a stell? 7 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 8 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: You need a sons Yeah, I got one to sell. 9 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: Supremo, Roll Supremo, Some Supreme ro. 10 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 4: My name is Boss Billy and I'm on my knees. 11 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 12 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 4: We got to prepare for roll call Ye forgive and 13 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 4: stell pretty please, sup. 14 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: Supreme Role, Suprema Supremo. 15 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 5: Roll calls like yeah, and my girl is Stelle. 16 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 6: We ain't no substitutes no more. Oh she knows me well. 17 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 2: Supprima Something Supremo. 18 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 6: Roles and stell Yeah, and I am litty. Yeah, I'm 19 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 6: out here doing it. 20 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 21 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 7: In New York City, Cometh Supremo, Roll Supremo, Supremo, Roll 22 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 7: Call Supremo Something Some Supremo, Roll Call Supremo, Son Son 23 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 7: Supremo Roll. 24 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 4: I hate y'all for not taking American Boy, because I 25 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 4: wanted to do mine around that, but I was like, 26 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,279 Speaker 4: too obvious, too. 27 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: Obvious any London girl, because obvious. 28 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 4: Everybody going to do that. I was like, let me, 29 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 4: let me go for a little bit deeper, let me 30 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 4: go a little deeper. I'll go for pretty please. 31 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: It was good. 32 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 6: That was good. Was you're not my substitute? 33 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: Normal? You know, we gotta pay for. 34 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 6: Load. That was only two seconds heart. 35 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I was going to say, I was 36 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: trying to figure out a way to incorporate, uh, five 37 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: for seven being the id height. 38 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 6: It was a black bladder, makes leave me loud? Everyone 39 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 6: everybody against me, against me about it? 40 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: You you were trying to do. 41 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 6: I was just having a mumble and it made sense. 42 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 6: And the mumble so I kick the five for seven. 43 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 6: So look, we're doing the vibes and John is like 44 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 6: doing the melody and he's like and I was like, 45 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 6: well five and seven it makes sense, okay. 46 00:02:53,919 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: But I just thought maybe the conversion of yeah, I 47 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: was gonna say, like you might would have been like 48 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: six due, but you made a lot of low self 49 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: esteem dudes, feel like you mean low the. 50 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 6: Short man busy. 51 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: Anyway, Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Quest 52 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,839 Speaker 1: Love Supreme. I am six ft three, thank you. I'm 53 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: six for three as well. Great, he'll tell you, like okay, okay, 54 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: well you wear hills all the time. 55 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: Steve, my feet are size thirteen. 56 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: All right. So brought to you by the good folk 57 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: of iHeart Radio, I'm your host, quest Love Jenkins. Uh, 58 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: Team Supreme is with us today. We got a boss 59 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: Bill in the house and sugar Steve Steve Jenkins. Yeah, 60 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: Sugar Steve, this is crazy. Yeah, and yo, he don't 61 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: be rocking his middle name and his last name enough 62 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: for me. So Berdie Jenkins means the best name of 63 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: all time. So I'm sorry, Dice, you are Burt Jenkins 64 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: light yeah and like up yeah, unpaid. Bill must be 65 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: getting his bills paid because we haven't seen. 66 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 5: Him in the month day he gave me the other day, 67 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 5: Like I just got back from sun Dance and I'm 68 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 5: headed to LA house, Like okay, he doing movies. 69 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing movies too, but I'm here damn. Of course, 70 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: Fante promised this way back in November. He's going out 71 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: for cigarette so we're still waiting for Dad to come 72 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 1: back home. Ladies and gentlemen, our guest today, of course, 73 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: needs no introduction. 74 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, I just got that joke actually, after 75 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 3: like twenty episodes about him going out for cigarettes and 76 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 3: not coming home. 77 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, that's that's how I understand fathers. I get 78 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: it going out for some smokes. 79 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: And that's the dentists. 80 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 6: He never left, no man. 81 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 3: It doesn't smoke and he came home. 82 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I just imagine you're being like Steve Martin 83 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 4: a little shopping horror. 84 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a deep reference. Anyway, Ladien, gentlemen, our 85 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: guest today needs no introduction. She is a Grammy Award 86 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: winning singer songwriter, slash mc uh slash voice actress. Uh yeah, 87 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, I will say. And I got a lot 88 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: of Stephen Universe questions because I've just recently gotten to 89 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: crystal rock technology. I used to be one of the 90 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: people that like laughed at people all right side, Like 91 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: the jazzy fat nasties used to always just walk around 92 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: with like a bunch of crystals in their pockets, and 93 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: I thought that was the kookiest ship ever. And now 94 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: I can't. Yeah, literally, I keep granted and crystals and 95 00:05:52,480 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: amethysts welcome. I feel real still. Yeah she she she 96 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: hells from my other home the West side of London, 97 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: West side. Yes, wow, I don't know many black people 98 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: that are from the west side of one. 99 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 6: There's a whole contingency of us. 100 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: We were there, I see. All right, old ladies and gentlemen, 101 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: welcome my near aquarian capricorn sisterell to the Shell's not it. 102 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 6: Just maye crunchy as hell, cool, cool, granola crunchy. 103 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: Got it? 104 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sorry, Sorry. 105 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: Okay, I get it. How are you today? 106 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 6: I am wonderful. It's beautiful outside, it is it's really 107 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 6: characteristically nice. 108 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: Beautiful in February. It is February. It is February. It 109 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: is It's February. Yeah, is it? 110 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 5: Is it? 111 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 6: Bill? 112 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: It's late February. 113 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 6: Month. 114 00:06:55,320 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: Everybody almost we're still here. Thank you. That was Steve Staff. Please, gentlemen, 115 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: Steven snapping, Well, you mentioned in your I know that 116 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: we were all winging our roll call, but you mentioned 117 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: New York City. But I would like to think that 118 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: you are you officially here. 119 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 6: I'm in l A. I'm in la officially my close 120 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 6: of the now, So okay, that's kind of how I. 121 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: But correct me if I'm wrong a few times, like, yeah, 122 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: I used to be here. I don't want to say, 123 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: like a few times I dropped you off the house. 124 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 6: In the same SERI to say that no, no, not 125 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 6: like his version, tell him, no, I've request. 126 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: I considerate person. Anybody that gets in my car, a 127 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: whole bunch of people, yeah, just want it goes home. 128 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: I drop people off. 129 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 5: So Tripp has a Stelle saying you got me at 130 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 5: some point on the stage. 131 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 6: Pretty much that. 132 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: I go back to like eighteenth letter pre ateenth letter Estelle, 133 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: when Estelle was saying yes and yeah. 134 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 6: So I remember, like, so the first time we met, 135 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 6: period was in London. I think I opened up you 136 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 6: guys used to be there a lot, and I think 137 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 6: I'll live yeah, And I opened up for you a 138 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 6: few times at different events and venues. When I suggest rap. 139 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: You can, I need you to explain something to me 140 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: because as much as like claiming like yeah, London's or 141 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: second home Londons or second home, there's one thing that 142 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: no one's ever properly explained to me. Okay, so there's 143 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: so and hopefully you can, you know, give some clarity 144 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: to me and our listeners out there. There's so many 145 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: sub genres of music that comes from urban London underground yeah, 146 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: I mean there's grime, two step drum and bassed E 147 00:08:52,840 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: d M, trip hop, acid, jazz everything. Can you probably 148 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: give us an education or like no, no, no small 149 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 1: task here no, Well on. 150 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 6: The different subgenres, well all right, so. 151 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: Like I don't know the difference, Like, okay, the the 152 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: is two step under the house umbrella, whereas what's grime. 153 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 6: Grime is like a subgenre, a subdivision of what hip 154 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 6: hop and what the kids who weren't specifically like rappers 155 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 6: and who were into jungle kind of made who went 156 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 6: into UK hip hop but who were also into like 157 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 6: dance music and jungle made grime and like garage, it 158 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 6: kind of came out of the garage umbrella. So like 159 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 6: UK hip hop was the founding thing, right, and that 160 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 6: came out of dance all and all that stuff. Right, 161 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 6: So Rodney P and M guys, it had a really 162 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 6: big presence and then but at the same time it 163 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 6: was like dance music, which has always been our thing, 164 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 6: Like we listened to all different types of music all 165 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 6: the time, right, So you've got you got us going 166 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 6: to and being at home listening to like reggae, dance 167 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 6: or hip hop. Right as we know, like standard genres, 168 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 6: and you got to go to school and you listen 169 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 6: to like dance and house and trip trippy music, right, 170 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 6: and it's like acids and all that stuff. And so 171 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 6: we essentially just merged them more together because that's what 172 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 6: black people do and you know, and and so we 173 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 6: came up with garage, which was like MCing over faster 174 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 6: beats which were kind of in the house range, okay, 175 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 6: And that garage became that, and then grime became slow 176 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 6: it down and wrap a bit more, be a bit 177 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 6: more swaggy with it, like you can wear echo and whatnot, 178 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 6: and or you can wear like all the all the 179 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 6: things that feel like you're wrapping, but you're still keeping 180 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 6: it English because that was our thing we made up. 181 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 6: And that's where it becomes like a whole, like we 182 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 6: made this genre now. 183 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: Okay, So the lines. 184 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 6: Get blurred as far as how. 185 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: You do it, but for all right, So when we 186 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: first went there in ninety three, it didn't exist, right, okay, 187 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: So drumming bass was just starting, all right. To explain 188 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: to our listeners out there, drum and bass is where 189 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: you would take whereas like hip hoppers would take a 190 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: breakbeat and take it as is I mean, someone would 191 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: chop it up and flip it or whatever. But for 192 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: the most part, like what you hear on the record 193 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: is what you would hear sampled drum and bass. They 194 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: would speed it up almost past forty five to like 195 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: seventy eight, which okay, So my theory is that kind 196 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: of the hip hop experience in America mirrors whatever the 197 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: vice of choice or drug of choice is of a generation. 198 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: So you know, if we so, my five year theory is, 199 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: I'll try to make this quick as possible. Like sixty 200 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: seven seventy two is ore what you would say the 201 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: heroin period seventy two, the seventy seven I'm sorry, excuse me. 202 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: Sixty seven, uh to seventy two, I would say, is 203 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: the joint period. Seventy two to seventy seven was the 204 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: heroin period seventy seven and eighty two. Cocaine eighty two 205 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: to eighty seven, the no forty ounce malt liquor eighty 206 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: seven and ninety two crack and as as and as 207 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying, miss anyone was getting hungry. No, it speeds up. 208 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: Ninety two to ninety seven was the chronic period the 209 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: weed everything slowed down. Yeah, ninety seven to two thousand 210 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: and two was the sexy? Uh what was the ecstasy? 211 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: The sexy? Did he have? 212 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 6: You got this cause you think about that? 213 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: That was the period to two to seven is the 214 00:12:53,280 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: scissor uh period? The codine period? Uh seven to twelve, 215 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: twenty seven to twelve. Will be saying that's the Molly period. 216 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, well no, that's after No Molly came after two 217 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 5: thousand seven. 218 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 6: Kind of early. 219 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: Well, I would say maybe lean, I don't know, tie pods. 220 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 6: It's funny, but it's not drum kids that. 221 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: Shout out to those Super Bowl commercials on time commercials. 222 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: Twenty twelve to twenty seventeen definitely, uh, percoset period. And 223 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: now I guess we're currently in between twenty seventeen to 224 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, which what is the drug of the 225 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: moment right now? 226 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, like wean life, we never go out of stays. 227 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm getting high on life. 228 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 3: Aureo thins are really good. 229 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: Yeah wow, Okay. So my whole point is that the drug, 230 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: the drug that somehow permeates in each era, also determines 231 00:13:58,960 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: like what the music sound. 232 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 6: Sorry pill? 233 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so oh wait no, no no no. In North 234 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: and Northeast Philly. Everyone's dying from it. 235 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 6: Uh that we the x K K whatever it's you 236 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 6: know k Yeah, yeah. 237 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: It's I don't know why the north East Philly has 238 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: it the worst. 239 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 6: Nothing there, nothing to do well. 240 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry by property there. Sorry anyway. My point is 241 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: that I felt like, but the thing is is that 242 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: I don't believe the people did you guys, not even London. 243 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: I don't recall London ever having like a crack epidemic. 244 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 6: Or it's a good question. It's like a consistent thing. 245 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 6: It's not that it was an epidemic more than it's 246 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 6: just like it's so I don't know, it's our culture 247 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 6: is so like you could be the highest of the high, 248 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 6: keep calm and carry on. Really, yeah, that's the culture. 249 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 6: It's never really been like thing for me. The way 250 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 6: I looked at it was like it's associated with homelessness 251 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 6: and you're not doing too well. But now it's a 252 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 6: point where you walk, Oh it's like a D boy 253 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 6: the higher rights by it from you know what I mean, 254 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 6: from the from the from the guys on roadman, not 255 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 6: d Boys roadman. 256 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: Right. 257 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 6: So it was never like oh, your friend nixt door 258 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 6: to you is doing drugs and you can see it. 259 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 6: It was never like that, like obvious, everyone smokes, right, right. 260 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 6: I didn't smoke until I was thirty. I'm quite proud 261 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 6: of myself. It's so fun smoke. It's a good time. 262 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: But wait, why are you straight snitching like. 263 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 6: You said it before. I don't feel the snitching if 264 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 6: you said it before in the. 265 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: Show, Okay, I might have forgot that might be a symptom, 266 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: might cut back on good. 267 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 6: So it was a bit more of a like supplied 268 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 6: demand thing, and no one really was in it like that. 269 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 6: Now it's kind of across the board, like where you 270 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 6: you knew like everybody had like the drug dealer friends, right, 271 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 6: but like they were also your friends. So like what 272 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 6: we're watching that show now too on Netflix? Yeah? 273 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: Oh God, shout out to Drake. 274 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 6: In the best way possible, I said that the best. 275 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: Way A bunch of money there. I want where like 276 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: I see a YouTube show, I see a YouTube show 277 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: and be like, you know what, I'm gonna give you 278 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of money to put this on Netflix. 279 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 6: I want to see this. 280 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: That's that's power, Drake. Thank you. Yeah, I appreciate sometimes 281 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: they still need Have you ever watched it? 282 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 5: I have, don't. I'm saying that because I'm comfortable with you. 283 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 5: I'm saying that because I'm comfortable with you. 284 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: Dude. Sometimes every show needs subtitles, even with Queen Sugar. 285 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: Got so mad at me. Wait, we were all watching 286 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: the last episode, like a cliffhanger episode of Queen Sugar, 287 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: and I showed my television and I forgot I have 288 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: the subtitles on. And they even hit me on Twitter 289 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: like wait, why are your subtitles on? I was like, Yo, 290 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: have you heard Ralph Angels speak? 291 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: Oh? 292 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 6: Don't you dad talk about that King? 293 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: That Ralph and that's Ralph Angel angry good morning. 294 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 6: Told me that's fine, jealous, stop it, King Kobe, because. 295 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: Now you know who's not going to be on the show. 296 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 6: No Kobe coming, I mean he's coming to the show. 297 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: Is okay? 298 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 6: Ye love you singles? 299 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: Okay? Brow? 300 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 6: I can't even brow. I know his mom. 301 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: Oh wait that means something. 302 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 6: It does different different women, and is twenty years younger 303 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 6: than dope. Wait really yeah, he's young and he's a 304 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 6: younger man. 305 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: I know you're never going to get to your musical 306 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: experiences because we just gonna talk about life the next 307 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: It's twenty minutes and last question, you mean it's little 308 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: bro Like, God, you guys realize that there's gonna be 309 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: a line of this cub period in your life. 310 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 6: Right clear. I'm in that space now, not yet quite literally, her. 311 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 4: Next album is gonna have a cover of Millie Jackson's 312 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 4: young Man, Older Woman. 313 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 6: You know what, No, it is not that. Yeah, younger 314 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 6: men for us still moved like rabbits. 315 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 5: They do like we're not at that age where you 316 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 5: want to day younger yet because they just they. 317 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 6: Still haven't even even like what are you doing? Hold, 318 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 6: I'm not teaching you stuff? Oh my god. Yeah, it's 319 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 6: a fight every day. 320 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: All you need your own podcast is your own podcast. 321 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: You don't you don't want me to deal with I 322 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: heard right exactly. Look, I wanted to get to my 323 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: whole point in the whole seventeen minutes. My whole entire 324 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: point was when I was there. Yeah, a lot of 325 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: cats were just trying to be from New York. Yeah 326 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: and aka the twenty one savage syndrome. Yeah, like I 327 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: caught there's a there's an interview where like yeah, and 328 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: then he said spot to you and we're like, wait 329 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: a minute, what English? Yes, and that's weird. I didn't. 330 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 6: Like, you catch somebody young enough, like they're gonna the 331 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 6: whole accent, everything completely changes. 332 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: Right. But the thing is is that I know that 333 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: you guys have been waiting for this moment all of 334 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: your life. I mean, really, you're pioneering. I mean you're 335 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: pioneering that the fact that not since maybe the Soul 336 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: the Soul wave or even I mean no, really like 337 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: with Soul the Soul having international acclaim, have I've seen, 338 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: you know, like other countries lead the forefront of their 339 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: movement and be accepted, not like oh what's America doing, 340 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: Let's do like America. Now, you guys are right in 341 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: the rules, but it's like it's taken. Like with Mark Morrison, 342 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: he's a great example. What is what is he truly consider? 343 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: Is he just he's his R and B? 344 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 6: Or is he he's Mark Marrison? It was it's R 345 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 6: and B. Then is to us as pop And that's 346 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 6: that's the reason why it's such a heavy thing. And 347 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 6: I said this the other day. I was talking. I 348 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 6: was at my friends with my friends in DC, and 349 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 6: I said, thing is, you guys have had such a 350 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 6: strong culture for your entire like as far back as 351 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 6: the twenties, Like it's been Black American culture, despite what 352 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 6: you think of it. You guys have had it and 353 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 6: we haven't. It's been maybe since the fifties, and a 354 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 6: lot from the British. Yeah, so like we're like looking 355 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 6: at it, like, well, that seems to be the strongest 356 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 6: thing to do. Let's do that, you know, can I 357 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 6: ask what's it's weird? 358 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: Right? 359 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 5: Because then when you go to black Sonian, right, you 360 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 5: find out that, like the Brits were the biggest committers 361 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 5: of the whole slavery thing. We are in black history mom, right, 362 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 5: So and I asked the British actresses once. I was like, 363 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 5: it seems like there's a disconnect between the cultures of 364 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 5: your motherland. 365 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 6: Well in a way too, we came over from me 366 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 6: I knew. I know exactly where are my family's from. 367 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 6: My parents came like Senegal, Grenada, Si Leone, like they 368 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 6: came in the fifties. They came in the fifties and 369 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 6: sixties to the UK. So for a lot of us, 370 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 6: that's where we start again in the European side of 371 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 6: the world. But we do know and like my family's 372 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 6: big on black history. So my dad and my stepdad 373 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 6: and my mom. They teach. They taught us that from 374 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 6: from like two and one, like here's who you are. 375 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 6: Go read these three big anthologies on sex and race. 376 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 6: I remember my mom gave me this book set and 377 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 6: I had to I read it. I was a bookworm. 378 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 6: I'm still am, and I read it as a kid, 379 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 6: and I knew about you know, the Black Queens, and 380 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 6: I knew about how we existed before coming over again 381 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 6: in the fifties. So like my perception of myself across 382 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 6: the border is different in general, but like that's where 383 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 6: a lot of us came from first, and it's a 384 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 6: big thing. Like we are taught at like in our homes, 385 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 6: not just because they're not going to teach school. They 386 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 6: taught us the same things you guys know, So like 387 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 6: our energy person of like where we start is different, 388 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 6: but the culture here is so long range and so dominant. 389 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 6: You guys really have have it, Like I please, I don't 390 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 6: know want to take this person. I used to be like, yo, 391 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 6: how do you guys have? 392 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: Like? 393 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 6: And I got to none about Black Wall Street and 394 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 6: YadA YadA, and then like time was like and soldiers. 395 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: QUI don't get offended we're still asking that questions, Like 396 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: Malcolm X. 397 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 6: I understand the context of it, but like at the time, 398 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 6: I was like, what. 399 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 5: The like that burning down and why people felt they 400 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 5: need to get rid of it so that you could. 401 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 6: Have in the grand scheme of life, everything is everything, 402 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 6: I would judge it, but like it's like you guys 403 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 6: have it and I've had it for so long. There's 404 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 6: so much wealth in it and it's so much good 405 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 6: despite every attempt to burn down black culture over the 406 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 6: past two centuries in the US and in the in 407 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 6: around the world world. 408 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: How old were you when you discovered your voice or 409 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: your singing voice. I was like seventeen, So from the 410 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: age of zero to seventeen first time spoke. 411 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 6: No no, Like I realized I was good at it. 412 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 6: I was seven and I realized that I could actually 413 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 6: do it. My mom made me sing my brother in 414 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 6: church and everyone clept, and I was like, oh, I 415 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 6: don't know, this is fun? 416 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: What okay? So what is the what's the the the 417 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: black experience in church in the UK compared to it's. 418 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 6: It's as just as wild again. Everything is patterned, right, 419 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 6: so it's just as wild. We holy go well for me, 420 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 6: I went to Kojak, which is I went to church, 421 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 6: got a prophecy, which is like essentially Kojak. I was Methodist. 422 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 6: I was Muslim. We've been my grandma before I was born. 423 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: Everything. 424 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 6: So here's the thing West Africa culture. My grandma married 425 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 6: a Muslim man. She was Christian, so for a while 426 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 6: she had to learn Muslim and then she realized that 427 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 6: was a very oppressive the version he for a woman. Yeah, 428 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 6: and we're very women heavy in our family, so we've 429 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 6: had to dabble per se just to respect it. But 430 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 6: I remember one time I came from so here we go. 431 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 6: So when I was a child, did all the did 432 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 6: all the religions, and right before we went to real Christianity, 433 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 6: I went to Africa and we went to my granddad's 434 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 6: village and I remember my grandma made us walk and 435 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 6: we get to the village and it's great, but it's 436 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 6: very Muslim and it's like Gambia. My grandma brings this 437 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 6: guy back with us who's like the village chief or 438 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 6: a village dude guy, medicine guy, spiritual guy, and he's 439 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 6: teaching us Arabic and they're trying to like give us 440 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 6: these base lessons in my granddad's culture and my mom 441 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 6: and I remember because I'm the big man for my family, 442 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,959 Speaker 6: low key loky snitch. Now I'm the big mouthfly. I'm 443 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 6: the one that's like, no, no, no, that's not right. 444 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 6: I'm not doing that. 445 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: You challenge people, okay all day? 446 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 6: Are you the oldest, second oldest, oldest girl? So yeah, 447 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 6: pretty much? How many nine in my immediate yea one 448 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 6: older brothers, six girls. 449 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: Second oldest. So you're okay, you're Jackie. Okay, everybody, okay, Jackie. 450 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 6: Look good. That's good Jackie. Oh no, he's the vine 451 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 6: buffet like. 452 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 5: Okay, that's no, no, no, you jack natural hair. 453 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 6: Okay, you are correct. Mixing was terrible, that's terrible. All right, Okay, 454 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 6: that's a whole image. Wait no, my edges a real no, 455 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 6: this is all right. So he came back and he 456 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 6: was teaching us like Arabic, and then they came to 457 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 6: a part where it was like women must be submissive, 458 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 6: and I just kept feeling like that was wrong, and 459 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 6: I said to him, well, I don't agree. I was 460 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 6: like twelve or thirty, you know, some shit like that. Wow, 461 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 6: And I was like, I don't agree. Why do women 462 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 6: have to not speak? Why do we? And I went 463 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 6: down the line and my mom was like, what are 464 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 6: you teaching my daughter in this lesson of classes? No, 465 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 6: huh no, not them, and she pulled us out the 466 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 6: Arabic classes and that caused a rift in the family 467 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 6: to a degree. And then we became real Christians. And 468 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 6: that's where I kind of was like, you know, like 469 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 6: because you were like half and half. We would go 470 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 6: to my grandma's my grandma's a matriarch, and that would 471 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 6: happen in my auntie at my grandma's house, and then 472 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 6: we would go up our house and it would be 473 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 6: like Christian Christian, and then we went full Christian with 474 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 6: that after that and then and then that was just 475 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 6: a wild time. It was like don't wait on makeup, 476 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 6: don't do no things, and like, oh, like you you 477 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 6: were going to find the husband for you and my 478 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 6: mom was like, oh so no, so here's what's gonna 479 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 6: happen with me and my. 480 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: Children were oppressive Christian but. 481 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 6: Also holy it was a lot. There's a lot going down. 482 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 6: And then I think it's always been music that kind 483 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 6: of shifted my trajectory though, because we were in a 484 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 6: church choir and I remember being nineteen, and we used 485 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 6: to remix all the words to the song. So like 486 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 6: Brandy's best friend became Jesus is my best friend, and 487 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 6: like things like that, and like we did the dances 488 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 6: and stuff, and I remember one like church, we had 489 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 6: a church Christmas concept and we were doing the whole like, yeah, 490 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 6: that do with that. He's always been there, right friend, 491 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 6: and the church like the pastor got mad like like yo, wait. 492 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: What was he doing to listening to Brandy didn't know 493 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: that reference. 494 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 6: Well, we were exactly make it. No, but she was 495 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 6: more mad that, like she was more tight that we 496 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 6: were dancing and were having a good time and she 497 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 6: ain't like my mom for some reason, and so she 498 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 6: said she kicked us out the church concert. It's wild. 499 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: I was. So this has been going on three times. 500 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: I saw a church version that they performed the futures percocet. 501 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 6: No. 502 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how that works, but it was like 503 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: the Christian version. 504 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 6: What's the words? I don't know, but holy goes chase 505 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 6: the christ. 506 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: Wait a second, I saw it on Freddie Gibbs his Instagram, 507 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: So go a minute. So this has been going on. 508 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 6: So they kicked us out and my mom was like 509 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 6: to me after that, you don't have to go back 510 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 6: if you don't want. I said, good, because I'm not. 511 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 6: And essentially, I've never really been a fan of going 512 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 6: back in the building and doing people's versions of events. 513 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 6: I kind of I'm very spiritual, and you know, I'll 514 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 6: read the Bible and I pray a lot, and you know, 515 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 6: crystals and I listen and I'm in tune. 516 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: And blah blah blah, spiritual, spiritual. 517 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, so one of those. 518 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: So did you, Well, I'm assuming I have the same 519 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: thing that it was hard bringing secular music inside the house. 520 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: Really my whole life, Prince punishments. 521 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 6: All day, Prince, like go in your room and listen 522 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 6: to your headphones under under the pillow. I had Joysy 523 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 6: and I had like this little like Joahsy was my 524 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 6: thing in my teens, and I had this little black 525 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 6: boom box and my bedrooms right next to my mom's 526 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 6: and my bed was right next to the wall, and 527 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 6: I would play it, but I would put it under 528 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 6: my pillow to muffle the sound. But that's how I 529 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 6: learned how to do harmonies for real, for real, like 530 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 6: really meld them stuff listening. 531 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: All right, Look hopefully let them go. If you're conservative 532 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: parents and you're listening to me, I'm shocked. Just let 533 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: your kids listen. They're going to listen anyway, Yes, let them, 534 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: especially if they got their own phones. Now, yeah, it's 535 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: a rat, so just let them listen. And so so 536 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: you're saying that by seventeen, it was fine, Well wait, 537 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: because again when I first met you, I met you 538 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: as an MC. I didn't know you saying so. 539 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 6: You're like, what happened? 540 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, how did that go? I was kind of like 541 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: wait read yeah, this is but yeah, like how did 542 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: hip hop affect you? 543 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 6: My uncle was the one that brought in our house, 544 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 6: and it was like how old was he he was? 545 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 6: Uncle was young uncle? He's just turned like fifty okay, 546 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 6: and oh thank you just to fit like he's like 547 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 6: you know, but like he was a young uncle. He 548 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 6: was like definitely like out in the streets doing this 549 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 6: thing right like wait, stirs, Wow, it's crazy, Okay, I 550 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 6: have family. 551 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: So what kind of was he was? 552 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 6: He playing Daddy Kane all to that era. 553 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: We would call that classic classic. 554 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, so that was his whole thing. The one thing 555 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 6: I remember he brought that like was like my switch 556 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 6: onto it was break dancing, and we used to we 557 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 6: used to really break dance as kids, like because it 558 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 6: was the thing to ages, right, and my mom was like, 559 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 6: don't break dance, no more to do? 560 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: Was itboro? 561 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 6: I used to like that from break it? She like, yo, 562 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 6: he broke his neck spinning on his head. 563 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: Before. 564 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 6: I don't want to die. It's like I stopped. I 565 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 6: realized he didn't, but like, you know, she liked to me. 566 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 4: They must have they must have told that to every 567 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 4: black parent. Every I heard that one. We didn't have 568 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 4: insurance back then, but. 569 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 6: That was my switch into hip hop and like and 570 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 6: then I just like I just liked it. It was 571 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 6: like then became cultural as a popular thing. But then 572 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 6: it became like as I got older, it was like, yo, 573 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 6: I can really I have a way with putting the 574 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 6: words together. It's not about poetry for me. It's it's 575 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 6: about the rhythm and the rhyming of it, right. And 576 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 6: then all my friends were like into it. And then 577 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 6: like mid to late nineties, I really was doing it. 578 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 6: Like I be the only girl in the room. We'd 579 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 6: be writing songs and I would actually end up like 580 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 6: finishing off rhymes or writing my own and you know, 581 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 6: and in friends of just put the verse down, just 582 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 6: put the versset down. I was like, no, I would 583 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 6: put the first down? Did I put the verse down? 584 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 6: And it became like, well, actually I could really do it, okay, and. 585 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: So I did it. Well when you're I mean, when 586 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: you're in the thick of it, you know, is there 587 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: truly anybody to look up to? Well, first of all, 588 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: as far as how you get it now, I mean, 589 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: because you're in the mid to late nineties, I'm assuming 590 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of Tim Westwood. Yeah, seven nine 591 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: mess to seven nine man, all those guys. Wait a minute, 592 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: you got to explain something to me. What was the 593 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: deal with the So Solid crew? So they were good, 594 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: the original? All right? So they were the original? Hold on, 595 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: it's like ninety. 596 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 6: Of them, Yeah, pretty much. 597 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: They still the only time. I mean, as an American, 598 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: there's there's a certain amount of arrogance that Americans happened. 599 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: I guess, like being over there, like in our mind 600 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: it was like no one could ever threaten you with 601 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: the accent. That nice. 602 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 6: But then came the guys, you know. 603 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: Like we just like come on like little accent, that's cute. 604 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: But they weren't. 605 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 6: It wasn't something. 606 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: Don't can you settle? Not a rumor? But okay, so 607 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: we know, at least for that time in the late nineties, 608 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 1: there were absolutely no firearms. We were told there were 609 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: no firearms in the UK. 610 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 6: They still aren't. I thought the UK is like the 611 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 6: most firearms. 612 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: We're so naive. 613 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 6: Really it happened because we was like gun control, because 614 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 6: the police, the police have guns. 615 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: Oh, let's stay there. Wow. I never knew. Okay, so 616 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: we heard a rumor that our beloved Westwood got shot. 617 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: Asked by a member of that crew, I. 618 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 6: Can neither confound nor deny who did. 619 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: No one will ever tell the story of why or 620 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: if that happened. 621 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 6: It's like, you have to understand that was. 622 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: The realist hip hop shit ever heard coming out of London. 623 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: That was real and he was kind of and I 624 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 1: almost felt like it was a badge of honor for him. Yep, 625 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 1: like I got shot, So I'm still here. You gotta 626 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: understand why get shot? Tim Westwood is the figure from 627 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: BBC that really brought a lot of classic hip hop. 628 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: He was the funk master Flex of the UK. He's 629 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: the voice that you hear on top of public Enemy's 630 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: classic It takes the nation of millions to hold us 631 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: back fresh Start of the Week. What's the name of 632 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,479 Speaker 1: his his show? 633 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 6: So he also was a white man, just in case people, 634 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 6: yes he's a yes, yeah, but I. 635 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: Mean his fingers. But I mean he was a pioneer 636 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: source of bringing those shows over. And I guess, like 637 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, with how pirate radio was in the UK, 638 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: a lot of offsprings, so like cats, like when I 639 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 1: did two seven nine, that was a pirate radio show, 640 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: but it was like a real operation, like the room 641 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: we're in right now. It wasn't like at that point 642 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: it was the government tire shutting them down and they're 643 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: just like here, keep here, keep going. 644 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 6: And then it became choice, and then in choice of 645 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,439 Speaker 6: family moved on to choice. 646 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: It was like the two seven nines legit. 647 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 6: Now seven nine's been the jit. I feel like he's 648 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 6: a kiss or so he was a kiss for he 649 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 6: sold everybody did everybody list it's no games, but put 650 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 6: in its context to no, I'm trying to put so 651 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 6: solid and the vibe of so if you got hip hop, 652 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 6: hip hop, hip hop, which was two seven nine and Westwood, 653 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 6: then it became this shift when all the music became 654 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 6: mixed up right, and then because they couldn't quite get 655 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 6: a hold on hip hop, it was like that's not 656 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 6: the new thing coming out. You had all these labels 657 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 6: investing in new thing, which is garage, right, which is 658 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 6: this huge scene that was blowing up. That wasn't hip hop, 659 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 6: that wasn't UK hip hop, that wasn't like after after 660 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 6: establishment the labels and so so solid was that but 661 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 6: So Solid was real, We're real dudes, Like they were 662 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 6: like out there, some of them were really out there. 663 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 1: There's a couple of them, yeah right still still. 664 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 6: So like you know, like it was a it was 665 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 6: a very oh you guys think this is for fun, 666 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 6: but like you're invested in real humans and real life scenarios. 667 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 6: So also that. 668 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 1: But I don't want to paint him as them all 669 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: unreally thust because Greg David also came. 670 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 6: From they came from that scene, but he wasn't in 671 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 6: So Solid, no parts he was before So Solid, but 672 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 6: like they were all kind of after the two seven 673 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 6: nine and and like Rodney p and like I was 674 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 6: even in that more that scene that I was in 675 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 6: the garage side and stuff, like I was really like rapid, 676 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,959 Speaker 6: like I was in the ciphers. I was like doing 677 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 6: doing real. 678 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: Uh so all those names at the time that I saw, 679 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: like uh miss Dynamite or Dizzey Rask the. 680 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 6: Street they came at the end of like the hit 681 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 6: UK hip hop side of stuff, and they really ushered 682 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 6: in that whole new garage side. That's what it was. 683 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 6: That's what they came all right before so solid and 684 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 6: then so solid it was came in like Wu Tang. 685 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 6: It was patterned on hip hop, but it was just 686 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 6: a different kind of sound. 687 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: So did you ever think in your life that there 688 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: would be a breakthrough, because again, like with the culture 689 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: that they had, even I was like when German Vase 690 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: first came out, I was like, Yo, this is gonna kill. 691 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: That's why we did it. When you got me, like 692 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: we're going to beat everybody, and even like Classic we tried, 693 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,720 Speaker 1: and even with we tried. What well then when Bombs 694 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: over Back Dad came out and you know that was 695 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: Andre's version of they went to a club when night 696 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: heard let's do that. But I never thought. 697 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 6: I was orange. Just yeah, because I'm here, I hear 698 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 6: you got me and everybody knows what that is. People 699 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 6: here bumbs and people know it, but they don't like rockets. 700 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 4: A difference between If You Got Me and Bombs were 701 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 4: back then, it's like like two pages ere four hero 702 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 4: versus h zero for he versus like something from metal Heads. 703 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 4: You know, it's like, Okay, it's completely different. It's the 704 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 4: same gund of completely different sides to this. 705 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 6: Plus you just teased us. Anyway, I've been waiting for 706 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 6: the continuation. 707 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 5: Of what that you just teased us with the end 708 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:43,399 Speaker 5: of You Got Me, Like you know, I'm just saying 709 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 5: we are still waiting for the red. 710 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 6: But but when you do things like that though, especially 711 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 6: because like it's such a jungle for us, was our thing, 712 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 6: Like I'm going to that after school. I'm like I'm 713 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,919 Speaker 6: playing that throughout school. Might here like Jungles am losing 714 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 6: my mind as a kid like that, that's our thing. 715 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 6: Wherever we go in the world, that's our thing. So 716 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 6: when we heard like, oh shit, it's on the roots, 717 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 6: did like we lost our mortal minds, Like it was 718 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 6: just because people would come take the music and not 719 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 6: give it props. But you guys were there and like 720 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 6: you got people that people loved, like I'm opening up 721 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 6: for you, like it was like, nah, they embraced us. 722 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 6: It's not on some we came in to get the 723 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 6: vibes and go back, like you guys spent time with 724 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 6: us and our culture, so it was like respect we 725 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,280 Speaker 6: liked to Today. 726 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: I miss it, so like why do you Well, obviously 727 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 1: the answer is that the internet has now uh localized. Okay, Well, 728 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying, do you feel as though the Internet has 729 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: colonized in a bad way? 730 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:51,439 Speaker 6: Yes? 731 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: Colonized? Well, and do you feel like the Internet has 732 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: colonized UK culture? Because I mean the good news of 733 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: it is now you are all breakout stars and the 734 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: world can get the information at the same time, whereas 735 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 1: like there's no breakout, there's no But I also feel 736 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: bad for like, like, okay, take miss Dynamite. Remember there 737 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: was so much hope for her to be like, oh 738 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: my god, this is gonna be the next Laurene Hill 739 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, and it never happened. 740 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 6: There were other things behind the scenes that with that though, 741 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 6: like it it's real life and it's a culture thing 742 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 6: and you have to make a choice. And I don't 743 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 6: know her personally in that space to say, well she 744 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 6: chose blah blah blah, or she did this. But you know, 745 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 6: people give up on what they don't when you don't 746 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 6: fit into a mold or you don't fit into what 747 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 6: they think, you know. So there was stuff with it, 748 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 6: you mean, the audience of the artists, the audience and 749 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 6: the labels. You no, like, she wasn't probably going to 750 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 6: do a certain amount of things, you know, and she 751 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 6: had a kid bang in the middle, and at that 752 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 6: point that wasn't the excuse. But I'm saying like, because look, 753 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 6: I walk into a room after her, right after it 754 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 6: to get signed, and I can up front someone literally 755 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 6: said to me, well, we're just working with and she 756 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 6: and looked at me like I can't take that risk, 757 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 6: and I was just like, really, I didn't even have 758 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 6: that boyfriend about to say get Rightnant said us was 759 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 6: hurt about that, and I was just like. 760 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: You got the last word. 761 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 6: Wow, how about it. 762 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 4: It's safe to say everybody in this room has heard 763 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 4: Amy whine House's debut album, Frank Yeah. I was working 764 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 4: at Universal when that album was out here in the 765 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 4: United States and it was supposed to come out here 766 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 4: and they took it off the schedules because they didn't 767 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 4: know what to do with it. 768 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 6: Crazy. 769 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, it didn't really feel like it was a 770 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 4: hard sell. You just listened to the record sounds like 771 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 4: me to hit. 772 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 6: And roots records, and yeah, it's anything different the record 773 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 6: in that time. 774 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 4: But the thing is, like anybody that, like anybody I 775 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 4: played that record for like, they're like, oh, what is 776 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 4: who is that? 777 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: What is that did? Most people don't know about Frank 778 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: Most people have been like it for good contention. People 779 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: thought that that was like her debut. So when you're 780 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: making uh, well, okay, what were the steps that led 781 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 1: to uh the eighteenth Day. 782 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 6: My first album? I okay? So I took the example. 783 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 6: I've been in underground arts for my whole life. I've 784 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 6: been like an independent on underground arts for my whole life. 785 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 6: And I was the girl that was like, I'm gonna 786 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 6: go make these records. I'm gonna find a distribution deal. 787 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: And I read this book by yourself. Yep, no manager, 788 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: I know. 789 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 6: At the time. 790 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: I've had. 791 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 6: I've had managers, but I would direct them. I'm very 792 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 6: much the king of my castle. Yeah, I direct and 793 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 6: I listened, and I pay attention, and I work with 794 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 6: people who are incredible. But I'm very much an instinct 795 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,959 Speaker 6: gut person. So I was like, man, look these people 796 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 6: out here. Every time we go to a label, they 797 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 6: keep talking about we don't know what to do, so 798 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 6: let's show them. And I was like, well, let's go 799 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 6: get these distribution deals. 800 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: And so I had one. 801 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 6: I went to it. I went a bunch of labels. 802 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 6: They were like, we don't know. I said, cool, I'm 803 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 6: gonna sure you what to do. Got my distribution deal. 804 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 6: We sold five thousand hands to hand and also like 805 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,760 Speaker 6: digitally and like not digitally but like on the internet 806 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 6: at the time, right we were sending like one or 807 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 6: two CDs a week, which was great at the time, 808 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 6: and then around Europe and the UK, but also five 809 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 6: thousand within a month. After going to the labels and 810 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 6: them saying we don't know what to do, had a 811 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 6: really dope publicist and she put me on every magazine 812 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 6: you could find a couple of covers where they were 813 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 6: struggling to get their artists. And I had no deal. 814 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 6: It was just me and my like me and my 815 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,720 Speaker 6: label Stellars. What happened? 816 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, So that whole time we were doing together, 817 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: you I was just you were too short. 818 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 6: Out the trunk, out the truck, and then and then 819 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 6: and then the next set, the next set of times. 820 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 6: I definitely was like on V two and the same 821 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 6: person that was like I don't get it, was like, 822 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 6: I guess I should sign you. I was like, just 823 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 6: so we we did the deal. And even throughout that 824 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 6: whole period, he was looking at me like, so that 825 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 6: record free you wrote it. I had to get the 826 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 6: producer on the phone. The disrespect was so thick and 827 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 6: so real about young black artists. You could have possibly 828 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 6: written a record that thorough off your own head and 829 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 6: off your own heart because you're a little black girl 830 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 6: from the hood. How like you guys don't do that. 831 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,240 Speaker 6: It was that that kind of I called the producer 832 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 6: and I said, so, did you write any of the 833 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 6: words or melody? Said? No, I just play guitar, I said, 834 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 6: and I put a phone now. And this guy was 835 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 6: so angry and mortified and like we'd just go out 836 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 6: of his way to stop everything with the second album. 837 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 6: And that's when I how did you get even get 838 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 6: to the thirt eighteenth day? 839 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: No, but how did you even get James and Omar? 840 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: And you got John Legend on the first record? Yeah? 841 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 6: Just I was recording Hi Hello, the Kanye story is real, 842 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 6: Like I really did. 843 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,760 Speaker 4: I was in La recording and I love that story 844 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 4: because because I mean, now, Kanye being who he is, 845 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 4: you know, you would think that was a Kanye move. 846 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 6: It's a different Yeah, it was a. 847 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 4: Different Kny of than but you would think, you know, now, 848 00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 4: knowing who Kanye is, you would go up and ask 849 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 4: for you know, kin, you went up and ask John Legend. 850 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, because his voice is incredible, and I was I 851 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 6: get I get my instinct again, right, I was like, na, 852 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 6: this guy's voice. I think my boyfriend at the time 853 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 6: was like, if you don't just go find this guy 854 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 6: because you just out here smiling. I mean, it's cute 855 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 6: and all. But like also like I was like, no, 856 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 6: I have to find him. And then it was just fading. 857 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 5: Did you know about his education at the time, and like, 858 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 5: I have a feeling that has a lot to do 859 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 5: with his success. 860 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 6: So that's why I was like, John's a smart guy, 861 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 6: but also he's he's the same thing. He's instinct to 862 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 6: a degree, you know. And we met travel and I 863 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 6: was like, yo, I was finding all this is lovely. 864 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 6: We're in record plant in LA and I'm like, yo, 865 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 6: I've got like two dollars to my name to get 866 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,399 Speaker 6: back to the hotel. Can we wrap this up type deal? 867 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 6: Like I have to leave in a couple of hours, 868 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 6: And he was like he was there and we connected 869 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 6: up and I left and he was like, yeah, I 870 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 6: just like your drive and the fact that you didn't 871 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 6: come in there giving a crap about a yeah or 872 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 6: whoever was in the studio. I say, now, I came 873 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 6: to find you to do this record that I have 874 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 6: pre recorded vocals and lyrics to. Can you sing this 875 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 6: pop please? And he was like live me here and 876 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 6: was like I gave it to him. 877 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 1: Blade it. 878 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 6: I was like, listen to your time, all right. I 879 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,839 Speaker 6: had a hard drive and everything. I remember it cost 880 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 6: so much money. I gave you the hard drive. I 881 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 6: was so tight, the whole hard drive terrabike. No, I 882 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 6: don't know. And then like I left and he called me, 883 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 6: was like, yeah, it's good. 884 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: It's good, dude. I've known you forever. I never knew 885 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: the the film and Louise ending the card jump that 886 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: it took. Damn dude, how come I never did that story. 887 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 6: I don't have to stop time to stop and talk 888 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 6: for real. I write a book about all these moments, 889 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 6: but like this has been my whole I don't I 890 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,879 Speaker 6: don't wait for the opening. I'll just push through the door, 891 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 6: you know. If I feel the instinct, it's like go go, go, 892 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 6: go go, you know. 893 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: So even then, I mean, I'm almost certain it was 894 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 1: just just to get to above water level was a goal, 895 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,439 Speaker 1: not even to like it wasn't even I'm gonna really 896 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: kill this game and da da da da da. So 897 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 1: I mean, by the time you get to the second record, 898 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: what are you thinking. 899 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 6: By the time we got to shine, I was grateful 900 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,800 Speaker 6: for John in a way that like people, you know what, 901 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 6: I'm this person, very low, I don't care what. John 902 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:21,760 Speaker 6: stuck his neck out for me without thinking, like everybody 903 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 6: that is rare Mane and everybody in his team at 904 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 6: the time was like what is this? Like it was smoothly, 905 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 6: like they dissed me to my face, like, I mean, 906 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 6: you don't know Aretha like that. I know Aretha. I'm 907 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 6: just not an Aretha singer. Like and it was like 908 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 6: a lot of different shots at me because I was 909 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 6: supposed to be this kind of black girl and I 910 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 6: come and rapping and singing and I have a smoother 911 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 6: voice and I'm confident, and you're not gonna tell me nothing. 912 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 6: I came here with lubatons and I came here with 913 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 6: my with my fashion on my vibes. You feel me. 914 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 1: Else, we're right hand. 915 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 6: I was very much like I'm not going to give 916 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 6: you all those facts, but like, also, I'm not going 917 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 6: to take it to heart. I'm just gonna do what 918 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 6: I came here to do. And a lot of people 919 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 6: shout him like why you signed her, Like this doesn't 920 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 6: make no sense, this is a terrible investment, blah blah 921 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 6: blah blah blah, and he was like, I've seen her, 922 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 6: I've seen her work, I've seen a girl. Trust me. 923 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 6: I'm just here for the ride. He literal would say 924 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 6: it to me like, look, if we don't need to 925 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 6: work together in ten years, please live your best life. 926 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 6: And essentially we did. But you know, but he stuck 927 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 6: his neck out for me in a way that is unprecedented, 928 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 6: and I'm forever grateful because I went to the label 929 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,800 Speaker 6: that were like nah, and then like I guess I 930 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 6: should sign you. And I said to them after like 931 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 6: the first two meetings of like, you don't really do this, 932 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 6: it's a lie. Go find your ghost writer. I said 933 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,240 Speaker 6: to them, so, look, next album I have John Legend, 934 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 6: he wants to except produce it. He won about five 935 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 6: hundred Grammys. This guy is touring out the world. These 936 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 6: albums gold at this point in the UK, Europe and 937 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 6: the whole world. And they said to me, who's that? 938 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 6: And I wanted to punch the wall. I said let 939 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 6: me go. I said let me go, and they were 940 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 6: like what I said, no, let me go, Please let 941 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 6: me go. And then he was like, I said to him, 942 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,800 Speaker 6: so the second album I dast used to exact produce. 943 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 6: I'm going to leave the label. He was like, I'll 944 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 6: sign you. I said you sure. He's like yeah, I said, 945 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 6: all right, come on, that's got. 946 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 1: What never happens like that, never accepting a case. 947 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 6: Are you the only release from that? I'm like, wait 948 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 6: a minute. 949 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 950 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 6: He set the label up to put me out John 951 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 6: School record, John Jon's a G for that. People don't 952 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 6: know that part, so everyone thinks it's the A but 953 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 6: it's John. 954 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: Wow. He did. 955 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,399 Speaker 6: He did a lot as far as having my back 956 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 6: and just support me and not really taking the credit. 957 00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 6: As far as like you know, where people were like, oh, 958 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 6: people say, oh he wrote this, and he wrote that 959 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 6: for He's like, he's not the one out there shouting 960 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 6: that people make up their assumptions. You know, he lets me, 961 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 6: he knows, he knows my cap billies and stuff. 962 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 5: Have y'all reconnected. So now that y'all live in the 963 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,359 Speaker 5: same town, I seen him. I see him around like cool, 964 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 5: I'm good friends with the team. We're still good, like 965 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 5: that's family. 966 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, true, true to how music history works. I 967 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 1: believe that I've heard the story before. The legend of 968 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 1: American Boy was that was it the last song made 969 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 1: and it's just like an afterthought. 970 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 2: It was. 971 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,320 Speaker 6: Will didn't believe that the record was a hit, like 972 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 6: the music was a hit. 973 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:36,919 Speaker 1: Because it came it came from his joint. 974 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 6: Yeah right, he said. He's like, I don't think that's 975 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 6: I said, trust me, this is what we listened to 976 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 6: our own this is this is it, this is it. 977 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 6: And I was literally on the beach in Miami and 978 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,360 Speaker 6: song it was BB Records it. 979 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: It was the Interscope Songs about Girls, the one that 980 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 1: nobody b b in the UK. 981 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, in the UK, he came out on. 982 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,920 Speaker 4: Interscope here Songs about Girl. Yeah, at least nobody here 983 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 4: really did. They had a couple of joints on and 984 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 4: you said, I rhyme over that beat or I want to. 985 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,280 Speaker 6: Sing over it. And we wrote it like three minutes. 986 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 6: I woke with it the next day an hour and 987 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,400 Speaker 6: then and then, but that every time we played it 988 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 6: to people, that energy would just shoot up, like it 989 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,959 Speaker 6: was it was like palpable sitting in the room, played 990 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 6: the record, Everyone's like, oh vibes. 991 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:33,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was going to say that probably American Boy 992 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,320 Speaker 1: is probably one of the few songs in this millennium 993 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 1: now that we at least have two decades under our belt, 994 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 1: not the age of Saw too late. No, especially with 995 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 1: the way, especially the way that information happens, and like 996 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 1: one song just instantly replaces another song without you know. 997 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you remember how many times you've heard Crazy 998 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: by Nols Barkley when it first came out, and it's 999 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 1: sort of like you might hear it now, but it's 1000 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,800 Speaker 1: almost like I feel like maybe American Boy next to 1001 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 1: Crazy and Love, like that's one of the songs that 1002 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 1: won't ever die. I it's still on my DJ set 1003 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:14,799 Speaker 1: right now. 1004 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 6: Somebody just made a remix on I just I was like, 1005 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 6: they still make your remixes still, Yeah, it's about be 1006 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 6: about three in the past two years TAM's joint. 1007 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was about to say like that. 1008 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 6: They trap it out, they put it on TikTok Live 1009 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 6: your best life, that's what we want. I'm afraid to 1010 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 6: go there, imoolishness. It's amazing, but I gotta go. 1011 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,320 Speaker 1: There to know what what song to play? Don't know 1012 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 1: what to play? You know, taken my life back? No 1013 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 1: more social media for me? 1014 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 6: Jealous? 1015 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 1: So was it ever a point where it's like tiring? 1016 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:55,720 Speaker 1: Like again, like are you It's somewhere between Nirvana smells 1017 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 1: like teen Spirit where they refuse to do it now 1018 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,320 Speaker 1: and day I saw where myself and where they just 1019 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 1: sing we hate the song all over the things like 1020 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 1: is it that? Or you're just like nope, I know 1021 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:07,800 Speaker 1: where my bread is buttered. 1022 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,279 Speaker 6: And I have had to reset. I had records in 1023 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 6: the UK that people will never not let me perform 1024 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 6: like that's ninety eighty for me and to the point. 1025 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:22,239 Speaker 1: Where oh yeah, we were down what you said ninety eight. 1026 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 6: I'm just like, do you know the words? Because I do? 1027 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 6: To the second person, I've been forget and there's so 1028 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,360 Speaker 6: many words in my head, so many words in my 1029 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 6: head I'm gonna have a te the fifty five, it's 1030 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 6: gonna have It's gonna have it. But he did. 1031 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 1: I had to. 1032 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 6: I had to reset my energy with that because I 1033 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,239 Speaker 6: literally pray for records like that. I was like, no, 1034 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:49,879 Speaker 6: and I got one, and I was like, how dare 1035 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,759 Speaker 6: I be ungrateful and say I don't want to sing it? 1036 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 6: And it makes me happy. There's so many ways to 1037 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 6: sing that record, and like sometimes I don't say it 1038 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 6: tall and then you have to consider. 1039 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: That Bobby Brown, I'm genuine. 1040 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 6: That's my new reference. 1041 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:05,479 Speaker 1: Level. He said. 1042 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:13,760 Speaker 6: If you're oh, I said, good lord, this is amazing. 1043 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:18,360 Speaker 1: They just sing everything everywhere. He just why just. 1044 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 6: That I'm the one in the back screaming, look by me. 1045 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 6: It's me genuine Hi. That was this is terrible. 1046 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:42,800 Speaker 1: I was twelve singing related to about to say that, 1047 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 1: related to I'm a character on Parks and rec thank 1048 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 1: you very much. And genuine is me and Redda's first cousin. 1049 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 1: That's revealed in the last. 1050 00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 6: Episode the black person on the show. 1051 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 1: Yes, it's yeah, you don't watch. 1052 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:07,400 Speaker 6: I didn't know. What's still. 1053 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 1: Everywhere. It's the mood tang of comedy. 1054 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 6: I know everybody came from nearest. 1055 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 1: One of the best. Yes, but one of the longest 1056 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,919 Speaker 1: running running jokes was about her long lost brother, which 1057 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,240 Speaker 1: they had me play. That's genuine is her first cousin? 1058 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:27,879 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, she's on that Netflix show. 1059 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 1: That's right, Yes, exactly genuine. Come out. 1060 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 6: I'm going to go watch. 1061 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 2: Thank you. 1062 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 6: It's amazing. 1063 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's shout out to my first cousin, lgen Lumpkins 1064 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 1: for for all of me. Which, okay, slight side note, 1065 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,800 Speaker 1: I'll admit it because Bill's like, you fake motherfucker know 1066 00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 1: I forgot about the interlude. I only forgot that. So 1067 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:07,439 Speaker 1: even in reuh capping your music, I was like, oh, ship, 1068 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,400 Speaker 1: I totally forgot about that. What was your what was 1069 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 1: your What was the impetus or the at least the 1070 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: process in creating this record. 1071 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,320 Speaker 6: I was going through a lot, you got. I was 1072 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 6: coming off of like the Shining American boy. All of 1073 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 6: my worlds were completely shifted. And I say that in 1074 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 6: the nicest way. Friends were wildin I was wilent Boyfriends. 1075 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 1: What is that whirlwind? 1076 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 6: Like you're not on the ground and you're trying to 1077 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,800 Speaker 6: desperately hold onto the ground that you know, because like 1078 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 6: moving it out from under you anyway, and. 1079 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,320 Speaker 1: With nine siblings also, how does that affect you? 1080 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,400 Speaker 6: Oh, it was wild, Like my little sister. My family 1081 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 6: moved out of London because so my little sister, one 1082 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 6: of them was so hyped. It was just it was 1083 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 6: unsettling for them. And that's when I realized, I say it. 1084 00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,720 Speaker 1: To people, to your success, I got not on purpose. 1085 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 6: One of them got a little wild with it, and 1086 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 6: then we had to move the whole Then the whole 1087 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 6: family moved because it was like taking my stuff to 1088 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 6: school and to do the school thing and like all 1089 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 6: my sisters this, and people liking you for the trainers 1090 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 6: you wore or you brought that your sister's trainers, and 1091 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 6: then news people creeping up around my family house. We 1092 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 6: still sort of lived in the hood a bit and 1093 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 6: going to the drug dealer's two doors down and talking 1094 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 6: and I was like my littlest brother, who's an account 1095 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 6: and a lawyer and an incredible brilliant young man, had 1096 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 6: to go out there and be a big gangster. And 1097 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 6: it's just like, nah, that's my actual family I raised, 1098 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 6: and nah, you know, so I'm dealing with that whilst 1099 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 6: never being a home and the people that you're trying 1100 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 6: to call your family were out here just not having 1101 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,439 Speaker 6: your back. It was just a lot going on during 1102 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 6: the all of mean period. And then I'm dating a 1103 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 6: dude who was just wildly trash. 1104 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,960 Speaker 1: We all are trashed, No, not all of you. 1105 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 6: He was used to start out that, you know, ten 1106 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 6: years ago he was trashed. So here we are almost 1107 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 6: ten years ago, and I was going through a lot 1108 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 6: and trying to just hold onto something that looked like 1109 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,479 Speaker 6: love or looked like home and it was all needed 1110 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 6: to go. 1111 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 1: Is it hard navigating that? Oh? You know, I know 1112 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 1: that where most people laither had is their home. But 1113 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 1: I mean you moved to the States and kind of 1114 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 1: without any stable family. Well, I don't know. For some people, 1115 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 1: getting away from the family might be necessary. 1116 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,040 Speaker 6: No, it wasn't necessary more than I just knew I 1117 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 6: had to do that for my career because it was 1118 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,760 Speaker 6: like one it was just tiring every three months getting 1119 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,760 Speaker 6: on the flight and your energy just is up and down. Right, 1120 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 6: you know that toured extensively for a very long time, 1121 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 6: and so I imagine doing that and then everyone demands 1122 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 6: all this stuff of you. So I was like, I'm 1123 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 6: just going to move there. And my mom was like 1124 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 6: I knew it was going to happen. Eventually, they helped me. 1125 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 6: They sent me off and they would try and come 1126 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 6: and visit, and then then the visits dwindled, and then 1127 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 6: I was never home so it didn't really matter. And 1128 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 6: then I would go home to London and I couldn't 1129 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 6: go home, and so they come and see me at 1130 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 6: the hotel for two hours right before I go to 1131 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 6: the to the airport again, and it was just like 1132 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 6: I lost touch per se, not on purpose, but by 1133 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 6: force of we just didn't have the time. So it 1134 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,480 Speaker 6: would be like I was so grateful for the hotel 1135 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 6: suites that had because the whole family could come. I 1136 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 6: come crash and I just got to sit down. My 1137 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 6: mom would bring African food and we would sit down. 1138 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 6: Yeah right, and the whole vibe and they were gone, 1139 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 6: and I have to go back to being a stellar robot. 1140 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 6: You know, there's a lot happening. 1141 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 1: Actually, there's a question I do have that I'm probably 1142 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 1: certain I wouldn't be able to ask had you come 1143 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:52,479 Speaker 1: on the show a year ago. Now you're dealing with okay, 1144 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 1: where when we say the fuckery that is this current administration, 1145 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 1: you're actually dealing with this two times over. 1146 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:08,840 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, and so what is what is the. 1147 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Not not you know, def Con five or whatever, But 1148 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 1: what's the current concern of yours or level of fear 1149 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 1: concern when it comes to you traveling overseas or your 1150 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 1: family coming over here or you Because I see where 1151 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 1: this is about to go if if old Money gets 1152 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:36,960 Speaker 1: a second term in office, well, I mean two weeks 1153 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:44,200 Speaker 1: ago there's there's been nine other countries added, and all 1154 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 1: them from Africa. 1155 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 6: Because of the year they return, you think, well, wow, 1156 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 6: you really think that, I believe added to that now, 1157 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 6: but because they have other deals with different US countries. 1158 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 6: But I feel like it was just the idea. Here's 1159 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 6: my thing that I've seen. You give the energy of 1160 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,840 Speaker 6: scare people. You make them feel like you know what 1161 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 6: I mean, And that is that does more for people's 1162 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 6: energy than people's perception of what's going on than the 1163 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,120 Speaker 6: actual thing, you know what I mean? 1164 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 1: And I think. 1165 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 6: And it's like the fear of like, oh well now 1166 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 6: it's gonna like can we really go there? But meanwhile, 1167 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 6: the energy at the top of you was like we 1168 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,440 Speaker 6: can do this. It's not as crazy as not what? 1169 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 1: So it's travel been hard for you coming in and 1170 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 1: out of the states. 1171 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,960 Speaker 6: Like like longer at the as soon as I saw 1172 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 6: that going, I actually wouldn't apply for my passport. Okay, 1173 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 6: I have dual citizenship. Okay, so like because I was like, na, no, no, no, no, 1174 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:42,800 Speaker 6: all my things are here, so let me make sure 1175 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,040 Speaker 6: I'm good on both sides of the of the of 1176 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:49,200 Speaker 6: the war. Your family's passport says written, Yeah. But the 1177 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 6: beautiful thing is we also, like I said, I'm very clear, 1178 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 6: so to your citizenships there we have salive, we'll selling, 1179 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 6: we own passports, we have different we could go. You know, 1180 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,280 Speaker 6: they've done We've done smart things, strategically smart. My brothers 1181 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,560 Speaker 6: and sisters, I love them for this. They're very smart 1182 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 6: about how they handle themselves. And I'm proud of them 1183 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 6: and that, you know, they really hold their side of 1184 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 6: family thing. They don't look at me like you got 1185 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 6: to do. You know, they really are brilliant in their 1186 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,960 Speaker 6: own rights. So I'm proud of them. They hold it down. 1187 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 1: Five passports, never going to jail. 1188 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 6: Okay, how about that that so hot? That's too hot. Yeah, 1189 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 6: it's not a game because people, he's wild. This guy's crazy. 1190 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 1: So now now that we are where we are, and 1191 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 1: well the afore mentioned twenty one Savage being one of 1192 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 1: the one of the biggest UK I'm not. 1193 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 6: I'm still like. 1194 01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,920 Speaker 1: Like, oh wait, you're just finding out now, No, like 1195 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,880 Speaker 1: like whatever we found out? Oh whatever, right, exactly, So well, 1196 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that it's ubiquitous, Like how do you 1197 01:02:55,320 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 1: feel about the current climate of today's are that are 1198 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:01,960 Speaker 1: coming from the UK? 1199 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,800 Speaker 6: And I love it. I would love to see more 1200 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,720 Speaker 6: of them actually do the effective work here though, Okay, Like, 1201 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,680 Speaker 6: besides the big pop artists that they pull out the UK, 1202 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 6: I love to see like the R and B and 1203 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,480 Speaker 6: the hip hop artists do more of the groundwork because 1204 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,000 Speaker 6: I know that everyone's always like, yo, you really did it, 1205 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,280 Speaker 6: and I'm just like, you should be here doing the 1206 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 6: radio runs and doing the doing the like the smaller 1207 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 6: the black culture things, because it's it's like they're selling 1208 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 6: you on one thing. But the thing I know I 1209 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,440 Speaker 6: had to do with the All of Me album with 1210 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,480 Speaker 6: Thank You was work backwards. So American Boy came and 1211 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,800 Speaker 6: it blew right. Black people here didn't really know me 1212 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,960 Speaker 6: like that though, So when I did Thank You, I 1213 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:41,880 Speaker 6: was like, it's fine, we're gonna and they were like no, no, no, 1214 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,560 Speaker 6: you're going to Mississippi. No, no, no, you're going to 1215 01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,760 Speaker 6: go see some black people and you're really gonna talk 1216 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,600 Speaker 6: and be out there. And I had to do it. 1217 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 6: And that's the stuff that I think that people miss 1218 01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 6: when they say, like, oh, you're you're big around the world, 1219 01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,560 Speaker 6: You're going America, You're gonna clean But you know, joe 1220 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:03,160 Speaker 6: In and in Champagne, Illinois don't know you you know, 1221 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 6: and it's like and you know, and maybe it's over 1222 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 6: there and Mississippi has no clue just in. 1223 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:17,320 Speaker 1: Your mind hypothetical names as my grandmom and. 1224 01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,320 Speaker 6: It's true, like but like real folks who just like 1225 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:27,440 Speaker 6: in the same way that like I was going to say, 1226 01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 6: yeah that it just hit me so in the same 1227 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,160 Speaker 6: kind of way, like look, it might be the poppingist 1228 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,080 Speaker 6: thing and you might look like, but go and do 1229 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,240 Speaker 6: the world, don't my grandma and grandmama, Like. 1230 01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 1: You know, like wait, I was going to say, so, 1231 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:46,800 Speaker 1: that's that was smart of you to yo, you're just 1232 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 1: hitting me. 1233 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,400 Speaker 6: Now nobody else has followed. Nobody's looking. 1234 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,280 Speaker 1: I can't name the mountain times that we performed in 1235 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 1: Mississippi or Alabama or you know, I mean, at least 1236 01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 1: in the last. I mean, we don't do miss the 1237 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:05,120 Speaker 1: down South states as much as we do our regular. 1238 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,840 Speaker 5: Because y'all were built on colleges too, though, don't you 1239 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:08,440 Speaker 5: think so because of the foundation. 1240 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,440 Speaker 6: In a way. Yeah, but then you also have a 1241 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 6: different way into people's spirits with TV, so it's a 1242 01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,520 Speaker 6: different you know. Yeah, but you still got to get 1243 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:20,240 Speaker 6: the black volte I mean, the black people are populating 1244 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,920 Speaker 6: in that audience on jam in this research and their 1245 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:23,520 Speaker 6: kids put them. 1246 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 1: All our families are big in this ticket. 1247 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,800 Speaker 6: He has nice super Bowl commercial, boss, thank you, you know, 1248 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,760 Speaker 6: but it's a matter of what they got to do that. 1249 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,760 Speaker 6: I still am just like I want to see a 1250 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,200 Speaker 6: Georgia Smith come here and do that run. And I 1251 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 6: want to see like I want to see h M 1252 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 6: miss Banks come here and do you know? And and 1253 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 6: it's that fine line of you you don't have to, 1254 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 6: but you should, you know. I said to Sims, I 1255 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:50,360 Speaker 6: was like, you don't have to move here, but you 1256 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 6: should come here and stay for a while or come 1257 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,800 Speaker 6: and whatever you want to do, Like, but you don't 1258 01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 6: have to, but you should for a while. Come and 1259 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,920 Speaker 6: you can't sell somebody. You'll tell someone that you get 1260 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:05,720 Speaker 6: their culture. If you're not hearing it, you know, not sayingly, 1261 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 6: like like you went to the UK and you lived it, 1262 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:09,560 Speaker 6: you could talk to it. 1263 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:11,920 Speaker 1: Not for nothing. Well, I mean we did it because 1264 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,520 Speaker 1: like we knew they would accept us. But not for nothing. 1265 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 1: When you're when you're fine and okay, good. 1266 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, you have a. 1267 01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:31,560 Speaker 1: Potential second chapter as a manager, or at least that 1268 01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,440 Speaker 1: of like almost Carol lewis like an agent, because I 1269 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:39,840 Speaker 1: don't think that your average when when when a person 1270 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 1: comes from uh, from where they are to the United States, 1271 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,560 Speaker 1: I think nine times out of ten they're just thinking 1272 01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:52,000 Speaker 1: of New York, La Vegas, maybe Chicago, like a major city, 1273 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,560 Speaker 1: whereas you know, people aren't thinking of long range. 1274 01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 6: I had to physically do it. That's why I know 1275 01:06:58,320 --> 01:06:58,720 Speaker 6: it works. 1276 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:00,960 Speaker 5: You know, like once you them, don't you see Ustaf, 1277 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,440 Speaker 5: Like once you see them and you go to their town, 1278 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:03,360 Speaker 5: they love you for life. 1279 01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,640 Speaker 6: They love you for life. Look, I went to Selma 1280 01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:10,840 Speaker 6: and sang Conqueror on the on the not on the 1281 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,360 Speaker 6: next day when TV wanted the special and I met 1282 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,600 Speaker 6: Tremaine Hawkins. Two to me is like the garden I 1283 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,680 Speaker 6: in gospel things like that, And she knew my record 1284 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:23,360 Speaker 6: and my whole heart exploded, like wow, things like that 1285 01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,720 Speaker 6: like lose. I lose my mind about things like that 1286 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:27,680 Speaker 6: because it's like, this is who I grew up listening 1287 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,200 Speaker 6: to as an eight, nine ten year old in my 1288 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,840 Speaker 6: mom's kitchen and I'm sitting there going what and then 1289 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:35,400 Speaker 6: she stand in front of my face singing Conqueror and 1290 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:39,840 Speaker 6: I almost collapsed, Like but you don't. You're not gonna 1291 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 6: get to those moments where it's those people we sound 1292 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,440 Speaker 6: on their shoulders if you don't go and touch them. 1293 01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,720 Speaker 6: There was the people you know what I'm saying, Like, 1294 01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 6: you're not gonna get those And I just feel like 1295 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:55,000 Speaker 6: we have so much great we write the rules, come 1296 01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,000 Speaker 6: here and talk to people about the rules that we 1297 01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,280 Speaker 6: write in like come and help them understand the new 1298 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,400 Speaker 6: swearvel of the new energy about it all and from 1299 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:07,560 Speaker 6: our point of view, like it's it's it's wildly lonely. 1300 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,360 Speaker 6: It's been wildly lonely for a very long time being 1301 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:12,520 Speaker 6: me and Marsha. 1302 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:21,560 Speaker 1: Right, It's just I tell people all the time, you 1303 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,400 Speaker 1: have to build a tribe, like there has to be 1304 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,599 Speaker 1: nine at least nine like minded people. Yeah. 1305 01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:31,720 Speaker 6: Well I started my label like on that because I 1306 01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:33,639 Speaker 6: was like, well, I have all of this to give, 1307 01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,120 Speaker 6: and I want I want to be able to leave 1308 01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,800 Speaker 6: this legacy, like do the work and you know, come 1309 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,800 Speaker 6: here and put time in and you're not going to 1310 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,920 Speaker 6: sleep for like twenty years. But it's all right, it'd 1311 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:49,040 Speaker 6: be okay. Yeah, you know, I have fun when you're 1312 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,640 Speaker 6: dead man, that's like the only option you'll have. 1313 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,920 Speaker 1: Like, So, also, do you like law? 1314 01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,519 Speaker 6: I like it? Do you like it as a single lady? 1315 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:00,280 Speaker 1: No? 1316 01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,240 Speaker 6: Okay, I don't think I wanted to clarify because you 1317 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:08,519 Speaker 6: part is. But here's the thing, Okay, okay, I have 1318 01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,320 Speaker 6: to change my energy about all that things, all that stuff, 1319 01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:14,040 Speaker 6: because I definitely there's a couple of potentials out there. 1320 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:20,120 Speaker 6: I definitely in l A. Yeah, it's like two three around. Yes, 1321 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,200 Speaker 6: people don't know that that's hard. 1322 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:28,439 Speaker 1: In l A is hard. This is the podcast about 1323 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:29,599 Speaker 1: navigating the single. 1324 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,720 Speaker 6: Life, short version. It is trash. No, no, no, it's 1325 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 6: not trash. 1326 01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:33,720 Speaker 1: It's just. 1327 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 6: My friends would say to me, Look, as hard as 1328 01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 6: you work on your music and your life and your career, 1329 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:41,799 Speaker 6: you have to work on your love life. Exactly. 1330 01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:42,280 Speaker 1: It's hard. 1331 01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:46,640 Speaker 6: So I had to change. But wait, and you have 1332 01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,280 Speaker 6: to have to come out of town. They have to 1333 01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,400 Speaker 6: come from outtown. And and you gave you the speeches 1334 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,920 Speaker 6: she gave me about listen, like you have to open 1335 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,880 Speaker 6: your mind when you come to l A. Angela Nizzle. 1336 01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,519 Speaker 5: She was like, Angela Nizzle and don watch like listen, 1337 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,280 Speaker 5: you got a day outside your race. I was like, 1338 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:03,840 Speaker 5: but they don't, they don't. 1339 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:08,240 Speaker 6: I tried, it was it was, it was interesting, right, 1340 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,320 Speaker 6: It's just not the same. It's like, why go for 1341 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:14,120 Speaker 6: the second if you want it is the accent accent, 1342 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:19,120 Speaker 6: it's it's no, but I want what I want and 1343 01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,960 Speaker 6: the day I mean I want to I want what 1344 01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,439 Speaker 6: I want, you know what. But like l A has 1345 01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,080 Speaker 6: opened me out though, like I am a lot more 1346 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,639 Speaker 6: like I see two sides of everything. I balanced, it's 1347 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,680 Speaker 6: how is that person feeling when they like I'm not 1348 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:39,360 Speaker 6: human because I can't be a judge Baptist. Like I've 1349 01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:41,600 Speaker 6: done too much. I've been through too much to like 1350 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,400 Speaker 6: put anybody on anything, put anything on anybody and say 1351 01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,320 Speaker 6: well that's that. And you know, I just kind of 1352 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:52,120 Speaker 6: I'm open, but also like I want what I want, 1353 01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,720 Speaker 6: compromise on something. Every day I have to sit and 1354 01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,040 Speaker 6: be like, I mean, you know. 1355 01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:07,280 Speaker 1: You do sometimes chameleonize yourself into another person. Slight confession. Okay, 1356 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,360 Speaker 1: so when I went to Smart, Black and Funny, it 1357 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:15,000 Speaker 1: took me eight minutes to realize I was sitting with 1358 01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:17,720 Speaker 1: you and Melanie Fiona, Are you serious? I didn't hear 1359 01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:21,160 Speaker 1: a trace of accent, and I was like, you know, 1360 01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:22,320 Speaker 1: these girls are so nice to me. 1361 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,200 Speaker 6: Cool, that's wow. We said that I'm probably had different 1362 01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:25,920 Speaker 6: hair too, and. 1363 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,400 Speaker 1: Then Melanie caught me, Yeah, your hair was changed. I 1364 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,160 Speaker 1: was sitting behind you at first, and Melanie said something. 1365 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,240 Speaker 1: I was said, wait, I feel like I know this 1366 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:37,639 Speaker 1: person and her hair was different, and then your accent 1367 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:38,160 Speaker 1: came out. 1368 01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:45,680 Speaker 6: Oh fuck, because this is this has been my I've 1369 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,600 Speaker 6: been learning American accents too, because every time I go 1370 01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:55,920 Speaker 6: so I'm doing acting, more acting. I want to Cynthia Reeve, 1371 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,479 Speaker 6: but go ahead and get it to it. You know 1372 01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,360 Speaker 6: that's a a mirror coming over here. They get me 1373 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:03,120 Speaker 6: acting jobs. 1374 01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:04,479 Speaker 1: You know you're in. 1375 01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,000 Speaker 6: I've been doing it, let me tell you. But like, 1376 01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,200 Speaker 6: the thing is, they keep giving me these rolls a 1377 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,120 Speaker 6: lot of my badge your bike because I'm just like, 1378 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,960 Speaker 6: first of all, what so they keep asking me to 1379 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:21,840 Speaker 6: be strippers and I keep being like where I don't 1380 01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,479 Speaker 6: see it. I don't have enough you walk away? 1381 01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,760 Speaker 1: You know what more, I don't have enough for this, okay, 1382 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 1: And like looking like I had to. 1383 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,040 Speaker 6: I had beef to one of my agents, like, yo, 1384 01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,439 Speaker 6: stop sending in these damn like we know, no, bro, 1385 01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,639 Speaker 6: guess the hustlers. Relax. No, I didn't get that one. 1386 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:43,760 Speaker 6: I should have got that one. Not even fun. I 1387 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,400 Speaker 6: could have learned how to actually strip, but didn't you 1388 01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:50,519 Speaker 6: want to been on the super Bowl. But I'm just 1389 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:56,000 Speaker 6: joking because I love Wait, that's what I lovestling. By 1390 01:12:56,040 --> 01:13:02,519 Speaker 6: the way, I had I had a time. It was 1391 01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,800 Speaker 6: no stripping story. Sorry, I was in the strip club 1392 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:12,479 Speaker 6: first time I had my song outside in Atlanta. No 1393 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:21,280 Speaker 6: magic American boy. Yeah no, it was onyx On And 1394 01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,200 Speaker 6: we went there to treat the guys because like life, 1395 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,280 Speaker 6: we're on the road, and I was like, let's go 1396 01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,679 Speaker 6: to check love. They no right how they gotta good wings? 1397 01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:35,519 Speaker 1: Sure this girl, yes, based on their wings. Shout out, shoutouts, 1398 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:36,839 Speaker 1: all right, listen. 1399 01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,080 Speaker 5: You can't even get the names out fast. And if 1400 01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:40,599 Speaker 5: I know, it's so many good trip clubs with good food. 1401 01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:47,760 Speaker 1: No, no, I found wait, there's a good lot. 1402 01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,080 Speaker 6: It it's good because I was like, well, here we are. 1403 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:53,200 Speaker 6: And the other day I was like, here we are. 1404 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:54,000 Speaker 6: This is interesting. 1405 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:54,560 Speaker 1: What is it. 1406 01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,919 Speaker 6: It's some some brows or something like that. It's downtown 1407 01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,760 Speaker 6: and well I didn't eat the food. I'll but the girls. 1408 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:05,240 Speaker 6: One night, the ladies were lovely, and so here's the thing. 1409 01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:07,720 Speaker 6: I go in there and I'm just like, again, I'm 1410 01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:09,479 Speaker 6: not judging. I don't care. Live your best life, right, 1411 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,000 Speaker 6: And it was just always weird when they play my 1412 01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,840 Speaker 6: record and the dude set it up like we got. 1413 01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,280 Speaker 1: Some so remember. 1414 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:21,080 Speaker 6: You had, you had Lloyd in the house. You had 1415 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,559 Speaker 6: like Lloyd and this is this is years ago, Lloyd 1416 01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:27,000 Speaker 6: bow Wow and a few other singers right early singers, 1417 01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,439 Speaker 6: R and B singers, and they're like that side of 1418 01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,840 Speaker 6: the club and I'm just like, oh, Ship, oh this 1419 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,479 Speaker 6: like ah And I'm just in there trying to like okay, 1420 01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:38,360 Speaker 6: but I'm meeto. And then the guy, my girl, my 1421 01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,200 Speaker 6: assistant had told the dude that I was there, and 1422 01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,160 Speaker 6: she's like, yeah, we got a real singer in the house, 1423 01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,519 Speaker 6: and I was like Ship, and then he puts the record. 1424 01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,320 Speaker 6: I do too, I'm my fan is and I was 1425 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,000 Speaker 6: just like in brask and he goes me y'a sing 1426 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:53,680 Speaker 6: the song and then I'm singing American Boy and it's 1427 01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,479 Speaker 6: gonna and she's like. 1428 01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:57,960 Speaker 1: She's major. 1429 01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,679 Speaker 6: And I'm just like, oh, that's really good. 1430 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:02,200 Speaker 1: Okay. 1431 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:11,680 Speaker 6: Taking she comes down and then she's like, I just 1432 01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:13,880 Speaker 6: love you, you just so you're so cute, You're so 1433 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,160 Speaker 6: like are you so classy? And I was like yeah, okay, 1434 01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:21,040 Speaker 6: and then she hugs me. It's like, is that weird? Awkward? Yeah, 1435 01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:28,400 Speaker 6: and then it happened again. It's stadium with thank you 1436 01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,080 Speaker 6: with stadium and ship was no. They played break my 1437 01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,160 Speaker 6: Heart and then they all came come up to me 1438 01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,160 Speaker 6: in the line like a greet me and Greek line. 1439 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:35,920 Speaker 1: That was like the church. 1440 01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,200 Speaker 6: They didn't dance for you, so but they were like 1441 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,000 Speaker 6: coming to be like nice. So it was like, no, 1442 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:48,760 Speaker 6: you're you like, no, don't, I will put money in 1443 01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:53,400 Speaker 6: the in the dancer's hand. What I just considering it. 1444 01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,760 Speaker 6: It's not gonna happend. I'm an all up. I am 1445 01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:04,439 Speaker 6: the killer of vibes. No, I'm like, amazing. 1446 01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:08,719 Speaker 1: Story. 1447 01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:16,280 Speaker 6: I had a wild and crazy life. No no, no, Mike, 1448 01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:20,920 Speaker 6: Mike knew about this story. Now the guys had set 1449 01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:22,760 Speaker 6: me up. We were on the road and I said 1450 01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,880 Speaker 6: to myself, I tweet something like, yo, me me be 1451 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,519 Speaker 6: like when he leaves, I'll be quiet. When I'll be 1452 01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,640 Speaker 6: quiet when he leaves, I'll be talking again about when 1453 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,120 Speaker 6: it first come up on the show, and it was 1454 01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,040 Speaker 6: first on the show, and I tweeted that and then 1455 01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:36,360 Speaker 6: team were like, I was like, yo, what if he 1456 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:37,240 Speaker 6: came to the show tonight? 1457 01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:37,920 Speaker 2: Ha ha ha ha ha. 1458 01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,479 Speaker 6: So the team make him come to the after party 1459 01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,800 Speaker 6: and I'm there like, oh, my little sister me Stevie J. 1460 01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,160 Speaker 6: My little sister comes on the road and she's she's 1461 01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,800 Speaker 6: my roadie, my homie. She come on the road and 1462 01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:50,920 Speaker 6: she was like yeah. I was like, Steve, we're having 1463 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,560 Speaker 6: this whole breakdown in our soul, right And Stevie J. 1464 01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,559 Speaker 6: Comes in the room and I'm just like, I got 1465 01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,960 Speaker 6: ask him if this is real? I said, yoh, comes off. 1466 01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:00,920 Speaker 6: He say, Yo, get to meet you, says and I'm 1467 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,400 Speaker 6: like hi, and he's like, I said, wait, you have 1468 01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,680 Speaker 6: to tell me is that real? Like do you really be? 1469 01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,960 Speaker 6: Is this real? Like the face and the face date baby, 1470 01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:16,519 Speaker 6: And he does the face and I'm like, okay, it 1471 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,400 Speaker 6: gets worse, it gets worse. So we end up in 1472 01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:23,720 Speaker 6: the strip club with Stebej and my whole team is 1473 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,720 Speaker 6: trying to find a way for me to have an 1474 01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,479 Speaker 6: interaction with s DBJ and the stripper and they're just 1475 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,160 Speaker 6: doing this for their pure ships and giggles. They're doing 1476 01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:35,680 Speaker 6: this for They're doing this so they can laugh at me, 1477 01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:40,920 Speaker 6: and so we so like, no, I didn't have but 1478 01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:44,120 Speaker 6: I was like, oh, this is weird. I go to 1479 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,160 Speaker 6: the bathroom. On the way back, he grabs me and 1480 01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,160 Speaker 6: he pulls me to the stage and I'm just like, Oh, 1481 01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:55,960 Speaker 6: what's gonna happen. I'm really in my soul. Oh, and 1482 01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,200 Speaker 6: he calls me it's like a big lady, and she's 1483 01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:01,439 Speaker 6: like go in and like she's going in that booi's 1484 01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:06,160 Speaker 6: up and no, and she's like this girl is color. 1485 01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:10,200 Speaker 6: I'm just like yeah, And so if I'm standing, if 1486 01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:14,400 Speaker 6: her booty's facing the audience, I'm standing with my right side. 1487 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,400 Speaker 6: I remembered it. And he's facing me and he's like, yo, 1488 01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:17,120 Speaker 6: look at him. 1489 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:17,320 Speaker 5: Man. 1490 01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,559 Speaker 6: I was like, what he's liked? 1491 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:19,720 Speaker 2: Yo? 1492 01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,160 Speaker 6: Look at him looking at her and he says the 1493 01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,559 Speaker 6: worst things. I'm just like, oh, it's all right, she's 1494 01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:31,280 Speaker 6: doing great, Like look at him. I'm traumatized. Why are 1495 01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,719 Speaker 6: you going to the strip club? You don't there, I don't, 1496 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:38,320 Speaker 6: but it's fun and check it, check it, check it out. 1497 01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,400 Speaker 6: I gave her the money and I thank you. It 1498 01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:42,680 Speaker 6: was so great. She was like, thank you, But I 1499 01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:44,680 Speaker 6: feel like they appreciate it. I don't throw at them. 1500 01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:50,559 Speaker 1: I feel you if look, we're in Vegas, he said, 1501 01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,840 Speaker 1: looking at it, we're gonna go. We're gonna go to 1502 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:56,400 Speaker 1: Experiment Rhino because they have the best French fries ever. 1503 01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:01,160 Speaker 6: Okay that I have been there. We had a wild velvet, 1504 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,000 Speaker 6: and I've been all the ship clubs and the most polite. 1505 01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,679 Speaker 1: I can give you a structure breakdown on the best foods. 1506 01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:10,040 Speaker 6: I actually I'm very interested in that. 1507 01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,160 Speaker 1: And at Atlanta is actually the best strip club in 1508 01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:21,320 Speaker 1: Atlanta is actually Follies. Like the best dancers yes died, No, 1509 01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:26,679 Speaker 1: not literally they killed. No, they really want to dance 1510 01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,400 Speaker 1: at Foleys because they have a good rate there, like 1511 01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:32,920 Speaker 1: the old Gold Club. I got you. Well, yeah, because 1512 01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:37,880 Speaker 1: the owner lets them keep their money, at least more 1513 01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,760 Speaker 1: than most do. No, no, no, some will tax the ship. 1514 01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:47,479 Speaker 1: He makes a killing off of the bar and more 1515 01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:52,160 Speaker 1: importantly the water, which I don't want to give a 1516 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,840 Speaker 1: secrets away just charges for water interesting, yes, well, but 1517 01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,280 Speaker 1: he has a great deal on bottle water. I don't know, 1518 01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:02,840 Speaker 1: maybe a friend of ours, a friend of his, a 1519 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,400 Speaker 1: friend of ours, but yeah, yeah, fell off the truck 1520 01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,479 Speaker 1: but yeah. Follies also has. 1521 01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:13,479 Speaker 6: Great food and commercials to do, like a little book. 1522 01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,160 Speaker 6: This is this is John Jay said, you're not allowed 1523 01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:23,040 Speaker 6: to do those. I mean that would be fun, like 1524 01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,400 Speaker 6: I would. I'd want to know or do a site. 1525 01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:29,639 Speaker 1: Know, we're looking for someone to have a green book 1526 01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:30,720 Speaker 1: for entertainment. 1527 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:35,320 Speaker 5: Serious at least they start breakfast after, you know, like 1528 01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:36,920 Speaker 5: four no real life. 1529 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:38,080 Speaker 6: I'm gonna have to talk to you about this. 1530 01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:39,439 Speaker 1: This is why has he ever been? 1531 01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,760 Speaker 3: Steve Like, I'm nominating myself for this job. 1532 01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,040 Speaker 1: Oh god, all right, so we gotta wrapped this up, y'all. 1533 01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:53,240 Speaker 1: We we done talked about the church in the UK 1534 01:20:53,760 --> 01:21:01,640 Speaker 1: and immigration and pancakes at Follies. So okay, so in 1535 01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,720 Speaker 1: love in l A. Yeah, So for you, what what 1536 01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,320 Speaker 1: is your what is your hope for this year? 1537 01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,160 Speaker 6: We're already in February, like you, I'm really like, so 1538 01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,800 Speaker 6: my main thing is the label goes up. I have 1539 01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,559 Speaker 6: a new artist that I really really really like, will 1540 01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:18,400 Speaker 6: go for like, in the same way John went for me. 1541 01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:22,360 Speaker 6: She's incredible, She's a great singer. She just my thing is, 1542 01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:24,680 Speaker 6: I'm not investing in anybody who I have to pull 1543 01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:26,479 Speaker 6: from the ground up. I'm investing in people who are 1544 01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,560 Speaker 6: doing the work and who want to actually learn the 1545 01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,240 Speaker 6: business and be sustainable on their own. 1546 01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:30,800 Speaker 1: You know. 1547 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:36,599 Speaker 6: So she from she's from Illinois, Chicago, Okay, she's really 1548 01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:44,840 Speaker 6: ills Illinois, so respectful, what about Chicago, Illinois, But family 1549 01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,439 Speaker 6: in Chicago, and like it's she's been working, you know, 1550 01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,320 Speaker 6: and she's been really trying to do this. So yeah, 1551 01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:58,160 Speaker 6: Jamie Woods, Okay, she's incredible. That's a hard name, Jamie Instagram. 1552 01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,360 Speaker 6: But she has a beautiful voice. She just stands things. 1553 01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,320 Speaker 6: I believe she's going to be incredible. You're going to 1554 01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:05,439 Speaker 6: see it. But she also knows the business and is 1555 01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:10,080 Speaker 6: learning it quickly, you know. And like, so the label's 1556 01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:13,240 Speaker 6: going up, we're doing TV films, documentaries, we're expanding in 1557 01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:16,320 Speaker 6: like the festival space. We're just you know, I know 1558 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,240 Speaker 6: a lot of things that I see and I understand 1559 01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,160 Speaker 6: the position that I'm in, and I just want to 1560 01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,560 Speaker 6: make sure that going forward, anybody that comes here and 1561 01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:27,200 Speaker 6: understands that they have this outlet and they have this 1562 01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,479 Speaker 6: unique space that they can really run down whether you 1563 01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,080 Speaker 6: you know, because we all need we needed that person. 1564 01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:36,519 Speaker 6: I needed that person to It's the word out helped 1565 01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:37,600 Speaker 6: me and I had to figure out a lot of 1566 01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,760 Speaker 6: things myself, you know. So yeah, mentoring is essentially the key. 1567 01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,040 Speaker 6: So I've you know a lot of artists come through 1568 01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:43,360 Speaker 6: and I. 1569 01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,640 Speaker 1: Definitely touched folks paying it for it. 1570 01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,040 Speaker 6: That's happening. Yeah, And essence is she is going and 1571 01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,360 Speaker 6: like we going again. We have the Batchman, the dancer 1572 01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:55,000 Speaker 6: or the Soca. I think I feel like I don't 1573 01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,840 Speaker 6: know if I spoke too soon about that, but so 1574 01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:08,679 Speaker 6: every year, no, essence is like, yeah, we are dias 1575 01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:10,920 Speaker 6: for Yeah, last year we did it with them and 1576 01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:12,760 Speaker 6: it was the first year we sold out. It was 1577 01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,840 Speaker 6: the highest rated like performance. And so this year we're 1578 01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,519 Speaker 6: doing it again. And my thing was to make sure 1579 01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:20,320 Speaker 6: that whenever we touch down and you understand the diasporas here, 1580 01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,000 Speaker 6: it's not just about it. It's definitely black culture, but 1581 01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:25,880 Speaker 6: also here we are because that's where I come from. 1582 01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:29,120 Speaker 6: Like we I never do an American boys show. I'm 1583 01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:31,559 Speaker 6: going to do a show and this bash Man it's dance. 1584 01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,800 Speaker 6: All this all the music is John Bassis house, and 1585 01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,040 Speaker 6: I want people to know that that's we can touch 1586 01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:40,120 Speaker 6: all those spaces about feeling like, oh your alternative, Well 1587 01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,040 Speaker 6: all you're different. Now, this is what we do as people. 1588 01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:45,680 Speaker 6: That's what it is. So we're doing that essence and 1589 01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:46,360 Speaker 6: that's what we do it. 1590 01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:47,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1591 01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:53,320 Speaker 6: Hell yeah, shut it out. 1592 01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:57,800 Speaker 1: Strong and we get it that. 1593 01:23:57,880 --> 01:23:58,479 Speaker 6: We're getting it down. 1594 01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:02,160 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, well sell We thank you very much. Uh, 1595 01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:07,080 Speaker 1: we're coming and speaking to us. Yes, yes, yes, yes, 1596 01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,880 Speaker 1: Love All all of your product is now streamable. Yeah. 1597 01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:12,679 Speaker 1: I was about to see in your local record store 1598 01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:13,559 Speaker 1: a track. 1599 01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,639 Speaker 6: New records coming this year to beautiful. 1600 01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,479 Speaker 1: That's great to hear. All right, Well on behalf of 1601 01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:28,120 Speaker 1: a team Supreme. Uh, sim Steve boss Bill. Yes, we're 1602 01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:31,320 Speaker 1: going to strip club right now. Sorry, Fon take Alotle 1603 01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:35,479 Speaker 1: you're still smoking cigarettes and all right. We will see 1604 01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,080 Speaker 1: next week on the next go round of Quest Love Supreme. 1605 01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:00,519 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, 1606 01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,800 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.