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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Buck Brief. This episode, Roma
Speaker 2: Deravi back with us. She is formerly of the Trump
Speaker 2: White House, where she was deputy communications director. She no
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Speaker 2: great again once again.
Speaker 3: Good to see you, Roma, Nice to be back.
Speaker 2: I want to dive into all the political stuff first.
Speaker 2: Although the campus situation, the campus protest is also interesting,
Speaker 2: and I wanted your take on that.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Somebody asked me yesterday though, and I know you're you're
Speaker 2: close to all the people in Trump world and know
Speaker 2: what the strategies are and what they're up to. Somebody said, Buck,
Speaker 2: how do you think it's looking for the fall?
Speaker 1: Meaning Trump? Biden?
Speaker 2: And I said, My problem right now is it looks
Speaker 2: so good for Trump that I can't trust it, Like
Speaker 2: I can't emotionally or mentally just get to a place
Speaker 2: where I'm like, yeah, Trump's gonna win this thing, right,
Speaker 2: So how do you see this where we are right now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have a tough relationship with democracy these days,
Speaker 4: So I'm not surprised by your reaction there, but I
Speaker 4: would say I think we can feel very confident right now.
Speaker 4: We heard recently that President Trump is having the campaign
Speaker 4: really take the lead when it comes to turning out
Speaker 4: the vote and asking the RNC to focus on election integrity.
Speaker 4: He hears the viewers, he hears the supporters concerns.
Speaker 3: Just like yours.
Speaker 4: And I think there's going to be a big shift
Speaker 4: with the new leadership at the RNC in a really
Speaker 4: positive direction where they're focusing on the real problems that
Speaker 4: we're having with our democracy, which obviously includes election integrity.
Speaker 4: And you know, President Trump, although he's stuck in the
Speaker 4: courtroom most days today, he's still out on the road
Speaker 4: campaigning and out the vote like we've never seen before.
Speaker 4: So it really is moving in the right direction. And
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be too shocked if we keep up the momentum.
Speaker 4: Although I won't go any further than that, I don't
Speaker 4: want to jax it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I feel too. Everyone keeps asking me.
Speaker 2: It's almost like the joke in Trump world now is hey,
Speaker 2: do you see the last.
Speaker 1: Poll, And it's like, sh don't talk about it.
Speaker 2: You know, like everyone's worried that somehow the momentum that
Speaker 2: is so obvious now and that Democrats I think are
Speaker 2: even very very aware of and clearly.
Speaker 1: Freaking out of it.
Speaker 4: And there's a grass Uson poll that came out this
Speaker 4: week that had a general election poll that had President
Speaker 4: Trump up twelve points ahead of Biden. I mean, that
Speaker 4: is just a beautiful sight to see. You gotta love it,
Speaker 4: you really do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I totally agree.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think he's going to win by twelve,
Speaker 2: but I do think he's looking way better than he
Speaker 2: ever has before.
Speaker 1: So that's encouraging.
Speaker 2: The campaigning on Saturday move I see that has been
Speaker 2: that has been announcedent because of the fact that he's
Speaker 2: got a trial taking up four of his five weekdays,
Speaker 2: which is just absolutely insane. How unusual is it for
Speaker 2: there to be the weekend component of the campaign like this?
Speaker 2: I mean, is this a huge shift from what they
Speaker 2: were planning?
Speaker 3: Not at all, President Trump.
Speaker 4: I was on the twenty sixteen campaign in Trump Tower,
Speaker 4: and one of my rules was actually organizing the rallies
Speaker 4: for him. So they're planning all of this based off
Speaker 4: of the strategic move of turning out votes in areas
Speaker 4: that they need it. They're not just deciding this based
Speaker 4: off of the Biden trial schedule. They're going to areas
Speaker 4: where they're focused on making sure that those voters are
Speaker 4: ready to sign Trump's name at the ballot box in November.
Speaker 4: And of course he would love to be out there
Speaker 4: seven days a week, but unfortunately that's just not feasible
Speaker 4: right now. So he's in New York. He's been there
Speaker 4: for over three weeks at this point, and hopefully we'll
Speaker 4: see this case come to a close quickly. There's really
Speaker 4: no merit to it. But he's making the most of
Speaker 4: his time. He's meeting with union workers at six o'clock
Speaker 4: in the morning before the court's open. He's going to
Speaker 4: meet with police and firemen after work at ten o'clock
Speaker 4: at night. You know, bring in the guy's pizza. And
Speaker 4: they love to see him taking the time to shake
Speaker 4: every single first responder's hand and take a photo at
Speaker 4: them and ask them their name. You know, these are
Speaker 4: things that Joe Biden just doesn't do. This week, Joe
Speaker 4: Biden is in San Francisco meeting with billion dollar donors,
Speaker 4: big money to line their pockets. I'm sure you know
Speaker 4: because he is the corrupt Joe Biden that we know
Speaker 4: so well, and it's no surprise to see that he'd
Speaker 4: rather be in a room full of billionaires, you know,
Speaker 4: with foreign interests. You know, no shock there than meeting
Speaker 4: with real supporters on the street. I mean, you put
Speaker 4: President Trump in the Bronx and everybody in the media
Speaker 4: was shocked that they loved him.
Speaker 3: Those of us that know Trump were not shocked at all.
Speaker 3: We knew the support was there.
Speaker 4: He's been calling it the silent majority for eight years now.
Speaker 4: I mean, this isn't a surprise to us. There's a
Speaker 4: silent majority still out there, and frankly, it's growing because
Speaker 4: Joe Biden has made so many people in this country
Speaker 4: terrified about the future.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about RNC fundraising stuff and
Speaker 2: also how the ground game is looking in some of
Speaker 2: these swing states, but we'll get to that in just
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Speaker 2: Let's let's dive into first Off, are you Laura Trump friendly?
Speaker 2: I assume you would know each other pretty well because
Speaker 2: she's now co chair right oft the RNC, and I'm
Speaker 2: hearing that she is coachair co chair.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hearing that she's doing a tremendous fundraising to
Speaker 2: sort of make up some of the gap that the
Speaker 2: DNC and the RNC have.
Speaker 1: What can you tell us about the money race, Well.
Speaker 4: They're really focused on turning out the vote, and I
Speaker 4: think that comes first before the money race. But at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, Donald Trump thrives on small
Speaker 4: dollar donations. He has donor events at Mar A Lago
Speaker 4: all the time. Those are the ones that you hear
Speaker 4: about in the press. What you don't hear about are
Speaker 4: the small dollar donation. So you know, Laura put out
Speaker 4: another video today saying if you have five dollars, just
Speaker 4: five dollars to donate. Now we are turning up the
Speaker 4: momentum and getting things flush for our president to really
Speaker 4: run a strong campaign, and they're not going to shy
Speaker 4: away from that because that's really how you get across
Speaker 4: the finish line. Each single dollar turns into a vote
Speaker 4: when it's a small dollar vote.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's obviously getting the small dollar donations is
Speaker 2: something that Trump has been very good at for a
Speaker 2: long time, and getting the grassroots involved in terms of
Speaker 2: the swing states, though, which is the one that you
Speaker 2: will give me the two swing states that, based on
Speaker 2: the state of play now, you think are the most challenging.
Speaker 2: I've seen the polls. I know Trump is ahead in
Speaker 2: every swing state, but the one, the one or two
Speaker 2: that you're looking at and you're saying that's going to
Speaker 2: be the real battleground or battlegrounds that determines where this
Speaker 2: is all going.
Speaker 4: Well, I think you've seen right now that Trump is
Speaker 4: focused on Michigan and Wisconsin for a multitude of reasons. Obviously,
Speaker 4: Joe Biden is heavily focused on dearborn Michigan. He's worried
Speaker 4: about losing the Muslim vote, and he should be. He
Speaker 4: should also be worried about losing the very wealthy Jewish
Speaker 4: vote that Democrats have had really as a stronghold for
Speaker 4: many years. And any Jewish person that I speak to
Speaker 4: today has really moved away.
Speaker 3: From Joe Biden.
Speaker 4: And it really does really actually shock some people because
Speaker 4: typically foreign policy doesn't end up as a top issue
Speaker 4: at the polls in November. This time is very, very different.
Speaker 4: You have a clear juxtaposition between President Trump, who literally
Speaker 4: moved the embassy to Jerusalem, who signed the Abraham Accords
Speaker 4: peace agreement in the Middle East versus Joe Biden, who
Speaker 4: had a disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, has World War three
Speaker 4: basically erupting overseas with war on our closest ally Israel,
Speaker 4: and just this week saying he's pulling back military equipment
Speaker 4: from being sent to Israel. So, say, there's a lot
Speaker 4: of seats that we're focused on. I don't want to
Speaker 4: pick a favorite here, but definitely right now, Michigan is
Speaker 4: the hot pot because there is a spotlight on it
Speaker 4: due to this global war that we're seeing play out today.
Speaker 2: And do you think it's fair to say that Joe
Speaker 2: Biden is the most anti Israel president of our lifetime?
Speaker 2: I would have to wonder who else it would be
Speaker 2: if not Biden.
Speaker 4: You know, it really almost makes me sick to my
Speaker 4: stomach when I listen to some of the things and
Speaker 4: watch really some of the things that Joe Biden is.
Speaker 3: Not doing for our ally Israel.
Speaker 4: We spoke off camera book about my heritage of Jewish
Speaker 4: Persian Egyptian descent, and you know, many of my family
Speaker 4: members are speaking out about this. These are doctors, lawyers,
Speaker 4: people who have no interest in getting involved in the
Speaker 4: political process and have voted for Democrats many times, and
Speaker 4: they are completely stepping away from Joe Biden and calling
Speaker 4: out everyone that they know in the Jewish community, saying,
Speaker 4: if you see what Joe Biden is doing and you
Speaker 4: don't turn away from him, now, you yourself, as a
Speaker 4: Jewish person, are anti Semitic. And it really it is
Speaker 4: that that is the reality. So he's going to have
Speaker 4: a very tough time with these individuals that he really,
Speaker 4: I think is kind of losing sight of the fact
Speaker 4: that they were always with him. This is a numbers game,
Speaker 4: and it's going to come down to a few thousand
Speaker 4: numbers in a handful of states to decide who the
Speaker 4: next president is. And you know, a little bit here
Speaker 4: and a little bit.
Speaker 3: There, especially with RFK.
Speaker 4: Junior in the mix, is really going to hurt Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: Let's talk.
Speaker 2: You mentioned your It's just so I get it right, Jewish, Persian,
Speaker 2: Egyptian hair. So I want to bring that back into
Speaker 2: the conversation in a second. With the campus protests, what's
Speaker 2: going on there clearly having an effect on national and
Speaker 2: international politics because Joe Biden is effectively bending the need
Speaker 2: to them, and I want to hear your perspective on
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Speaker 2: First of you know, I think some people forget there
Speaker 2: are actually some Jewish students who are part of the protest,
Speaker 2: which I've discussed this on radio. Is a whole other
Speaker 2: component of this. Right they blame Israel for the anti
Speaker 2: Semitism against Israel, and they think they're being somehow enlightened
Speaker 2: by distancing themselves as Jewish Americans from Israel. But put
Speaker 2: that aside, I mean, overall, this issue of Michigan Muslims
Speaker 2: and campus protesters pushing the Biden administration on a foreign
Speaker 2: policy matter that involves life and death.
Speaker 1: What do you make of that?
Speaker 3: Well, it stems from week leadership.
Speaker 4: Buck. You know, President Trump is a strong leader on
Speaker 4: the world stage, and not only do people at home
Speaker 4: respect that, but leaders abroad respect that as well. And
Speaker 4: you wouldn't even be seeing these wars that we have
Speaker 4: overseas if Joe Biden was not such a weak leader
Speaker 4: to begin with. So you have our adversaries taking advantage
Speaker 4: of our allies, and now you have student protesters that
Speaker 4: are chanting death to America, death to Israel, you know,
Speaker 4: right here on some of the most elite college campuses
Speaker 4: in the world, not just in America. You know, let's
Speaker 4: remind the audience that people from all over the world
Speaker 4: come to attend these universities in the USA, and this
Speaker 4: is what we're seeing on the world stage. You have
Speaker 4: the Ayatola praising these protesters. I mean, how can you
Speaker 4: possibly support these protesters when you have terrorist organizations telling
Speaker 4: you that they love them, that they're doing the right thing.
Speaker 4: I mean, who is on the side of good and
Speaker 4: evil here? It's very very clear for everyone to see.
Speaker 4: And you know, it's disappointing that the week leadership that
Speaker 4: we have at the top has trickled down to the
Speaker 4: state level, that's trickled down to the university boards. And
Speaker 4: you have these protesters all high and mighty, calling for
Speaker 4: amnesty and humanitarian aid as they are destroying property, breaking
Speaker 4: into buildings, you know, destroying statues, defacing George Washington, and
Speaker 4: hanging the Palestinian Moss flag on campuses. It's really disgusting,
Speaker 4: and it's something that those of us from a Jewish
Speaker 4: heritage never ever thought we would see.
Speaker 3: In our lifetime.
Speaker 2: Do you think, speaking from Jewish American perspective and Jewish heritage,
Speaker 2: you think there's going to be a sizable change in
Speaker 2: the Jewish vote in this election or do you think
Speaker 2: that conservative Jews already knew this and the liberal Jews
Speaker 2: aren't going to care enough to change their view.
Speaker 4: Well, I would say the change has been happening for
Speaker 4: a while. This is really just the tipping point for
Speaker 4: most Jewish people. I have many friends from southern California
Speaker 4: that are liberal Jews, many friends from the New York
Speaker 4: City Northeast Boston area that are liberal Jews, and they
Speaker 4: are disgusted by what we're seeing from this White House
Speaker 4: and the lack of support for Israel. They are speaking
Speaker 4: out on it more than they spoke out about the
Speaker 4: Black Lives Matter protests, which, as you know, buck was
Speaker 4: very trendy for liberals. If you weren't talking about it,
Speaker 4: you were clearly a racist. So every single liberal was
Speaker 4: speaking out about BLM and those protests. And I would
Speaker 4: say that my feed, and perhaps it's a little bit slanted,
Speaker 4: but My feed is really flooded with people from both
Speaker 4: Republican and Democrat voting backgrounds of Jewish faith that are
Speaker 4: just absolutely horrified by this administration and what we're seeing
Speaker 4: right now play out.
Speaker 1: Roma.
Speaker 2: I know that you're a southern California gal and you're
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Speaker 1: You live inside the Beltway.
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Speaker 2: can have warm weather with freedom, you know, instead of California,
Speaker 2: which unfortunately offers you totalitarianism. What do we gotta do
Speaker 2: to get you? Are you considering Florida for your future?
Speaker 2: I lose I used to live in DC too. Let
Speaker 2: me tell you wouldn't leave Florida for DC these days?
Speaker 4: Well, I missed the sunshine and the beach single day.
Speaker 4: When we have a sunny day here in d C.
Speaker 4: You will see me turn into a whole new woman.
Speaker 4: But you know, there's always a chance that I'll move
Speaker 4: down to Florida, and the time is right. But when
Speaker 4: you're in Washington, d C. When you're working in politics
Speaker 4: like I am, you have the ability to really get
Speaker 4: involved and attend events and gatherings almost on a daily occurrence.
Speaker 4: So right now, you know, I spent a year in
Speaker 4: New York with President Trump and Trump Tower, moved down
Speaker 4: to d C and have been here ever since. And
Speaker 4: those four years that I spent in the administration, you know,
Speaker 4: I really emphasize the fact that when you're working for
Speaker 4: the government, you are a civil servant.
Speaker 3: You are not there for yourself, You're there for the people.
Speaker 3: You're there to serve the people.
Speaker 4: And you know, I stuck around d C because I
Speaker 4: truly believe that President Trump is going to be back
Speaker 4: in just a matter of months. So it's important that
Speaker 4: we have eyes and ears in this town. It's predominantly liberal.
Speaker 4: Ninety five percent of the vote in DC is Democrat,
Speaker 4: and we saw.
Speaker 3: That in the last election cycle.
Speaker 4: So to be one of the little raspberries in this
Speaker 4: big blue pond, I think is quite important, and you know,
Speaker 4: I'm willing to kind of make that sacrifice right now
Speaker 4: in order to have a voice in the conversation.
Speaker 3: And many, as you know, Buck, many.
Speaker 4: DC based shows focus on the hill, they focus on politics,
Speaker 4: all different TV outlets, and it's provided the opportunity for
Speaker 4: me to really make sure that President Trump and the
Speaker 4: Republican Party has a voice in the conversation. There are
Speaker 4: so many great surrogates out there, and I'm happy to
Speaker 4: be added into the mix and make sure that, you know,
Speaker 4: the swamp doesn't get too excited and too crazy without
Speaker 4: someone trying to sit them back down and remind them
Speaker 4: of the reality of the entire nation.
Speaker 2: That was the best pitch for the need to be
Speaker 2: in the swamp, at least I've heard it a long time,
Speaker 2: So good good on you. I mean, you guys don't
Speaker 2: even have beaches up there, and yet well I guess
Speaker 2: you kind of technically do, but not really.
Speaker 1: Uh, and yet you're you're making.
Speaker 3: Making it cud oysters. That's the one thing, you know.
Speaker 2: I actually loved my time living in DC, but I
Speaker 2: always felt like I was infiltrating the enemy camp by
Speaker 2: being there, So it's a little bit of a different mentality.
Speaker 1: But I had a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: And back in the old tr Yeah, back in the
Speaker 2: old Trump Hotel days, that place was awesome. It was
Speaker 2: like everyone just hanging out all the time, and you know,
Speaker 2: seeing people like you Trump at the Trump Hotel in
Speaker 2: downtown right near the White House. All right, Roma, you
Speaker 2: have to make sure Trump wins and save the country.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna let you get back to doing that.
Speaker 2: But where should people follow your stuff?
Speaker 4: You can find me at Roma darab on Twitter, Instagram, anywhere.
Speaker 3: You get news.
Speaker 4: I will probably be there on one of the channels
Speaker 4: that you're watching. And of course right here with you, Buck.
Speaker 4: It's my favorite.
Speaker 1: She's a smart lady. This is how she knows.
Speaker 2: She's definitely coming back. Roma, thank you so much, great
Speaker 2: to see you.
Speaker 1: You too, fantastic and yeah, this will be out like