Speaker 1: If you're on the Internet, you've probably seen a rise
Speaker 1: in a certain kind of social media video. I know
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 2: Here's everything I prep for my husband for the next
Speaker 2: two days.
Speaker 1: Tradwives.
Speaker 3: The definition of a tradwife is not merely someone who
Speaker 3: stays at home, but who romanticizes it. Where we are
Speaker 3: looking back not only to the way things worked in
Speaker 3: the fifties, but the values that families had in the fifties.
Speaker 1: They are wives and mothers making beautiful, elaborate meals for
Speaker 1: their husbands and children, sometimes wearing designer dresses. The Internet
Speaker 1: has been quick to call them tradwives, women who advocate
Speaker 1: for traditional gender roles, and some of them are Latin US.
Speaker 2: We won.
Speaker 1: A launch, but they're not letting themselves get boxed in
Speaker 1: from Futromedia and the RX, It's USA. I'm Marian Josa
Speaker 1: today a collaboration with Imperfect Paradise from Las Studios. We
Speaker 1: go deep with a viral Latina tradwife and we're joined by.
Speaker 4: Host Antonio Sadaji.
Speaker 1: Though so Antonia, we used to work together. The first
Speaker 1: time Donald Trump was elected. We were actually in the
Speaker 1: same newsroom here in New York City. Fast forward to
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. I'm in New York, you're in LA
Speaker 1: and Donald Trump wins again. Latinos came out for this
Speaker 1: Republican candidate, winning forty six percent of their votes. Donald
Speaker 1: Trump broke the record for the percentage of Latino votes
Speaker 1: for a Republican candidate.
Speaker 4: And while I know Latinos are not a monolith, I
Speaker 4: wanted to understand what's informing Latino attitudes and their decisions
Speaker 4: culturally and politically. What are some of the forces that
Speaker 4: Influencedino values in this country. We're doing a special three
Speaker 4: episode series all about this question, and on today's episode,
Speaker 4: we are turning towards TikTok. And I think there's one
Speaker 4: corner of TikTok that is particularly enlightening, and that's Latina
Speaker 4: tradwife TikTok. Is that I remember scrolling TikTok as a
Speaker 4: distraction to my anxiety on election day. I had re
Speaker 4: downloaded it after some months of being off TikTok, and
Speaker 4: the first ten videos I got were like these women
Speaker 4: with like super long painted fingernails and they were making
Speaker 4: lonche or lunch for their husbands.
Speaker 5: Y'all better not start in the comments talk about just
Speaker 5: pack at the night before, girl, are you the one
Speaker 5: getting up bright and early to feed my man?
Speaker 4: I think the hell not. And then I went to
Speaker 4: the comments, and people were either like idolizing them, you know,
Speaker 4: being wow, like that's so beautiful, gmoso that you're making
Speaker 4: lunch for your husband, or people being like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: I would never wake up at three am for my husband,
Speaker 4: like that's insane. And I just, you know, I fell
Speaker 4: down the Datina tradwife rabbit hole.
Speaker 1: Now there is a larger tradwife movement on the Internet
Speaker 1: of mostly white, affluent Christian and Mormon women. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: of the very well known tradwife Ballerina Farm.
Speaker 4: We are making a rubbed heart.
Speaker 6: We got ready for church, the girls and I got
Speaker 6: started on the hamburger buns, sourdoa candles, when new tinsels,
Speaker 6: and honey and seasoning and dish soap, granola, all of it.
Speaker 4: Many of these women don't explicitly talk about politics, but
Speaker 4: they do seem sort of maga coated in the sense
Speaker 4: that they reflect a cultural return to very gendered family values,
Speaker 4: which means women are responsible for raising the children and
Speaker 4: taking care of the home, cooking and cleaning while men
Speaker 4: are out earning the money now.
Speaker 1: Of course, Mexican and Latina women have been feeding and
Speaker 1: taking care of their families since pre Columbian times. I mean,
Speaker 1: my mom cooked every single day, and you know it
Speaker 1: was a part of what made my home really special.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting to see this practice of making food
Speaker 4: for one's family presented in this potentially maga coated way,
Speaker 4: yearning for this past where men and women had these
Speaker 4: traditional roles. And one of the things we covered a
Speaker 4: lot at Latino USA was how more and more Latino
Speaker 4: women are getting higher education degrees. And that's part of
Speaker 4: the reason we see this big gap between Latino men
Speaker 4: and women in terms of how they're voting, because it
Speaker 4: tends to be that people who are more educated tend
Speaker 4: to vote in more progressive ways. And watching these women,
Speaker 4: you know, these Latino tradwives, I was transfixed by them
Speaker 4: and I was thinking to myself, I actually don't know
Speaker 4: where these women stand. Like they're presenting this idealized lifestyle,
Speaker 4: but I actually don't know what they care about. What
Speaker 4: are these women's political beliefs and what's influencing and informing
Speaker 4: those beliefs.
Speaker 1: And so this week on Latino USA, we are going
Speaker 1: to trace the story of one Latina trad wife. Her
Speaker 1: name is Lupita and Argerida Antonia Sejido is going to
Speaker 1: take it from here.
Speaker 4: Lupita has over half a million followers on TikTok under
Speaker 4: the handle Louvo. On Instagram, she has over one hundred thousand.
Speaker 4: She's thirty three. She's got long, flowing black hair and
Speaker 4: wears tight clothing that accentuates her curvy fit figure. There
Speaker 4: is a lot of variety in her videos. Sometimes she's
Speaker 4: lip syncing or dancing to musica. She could be shopping
Speaker 4: at the grocery store, pumping gas, or even one time
Speaker 4: riding a horse. She also talks about empathy, caring for others,
Speaker 4: and inner beauty. You know.
Speaker 2: Instet Merina.
Speaker 4: But there are two kinds of videos that are sort
Speaker 4: of her bread and butter and tend to perform the best.
Speaker 4: The first kind are these cooking videos that she records
Speaker 4: in her outdoor rustic kitchen, Oh You. And the second
Speaker 4: type of video is a genre that got me down
Speaker 4: the Latina trodwife path. To begin with the videos where
Speaker 4: she makes lunche or lunch for her blue collar husband
Speaker 4: at three a m. She films those in her indoor
Speaker 4: kitchen Lanchez delivery. In the videos, we can see Lupita
Speaker 4: smizing at the camera between quick takes of her chopping
Speaker 4: sauteng and packing up food like aonias meatballs, stuffed bell peppers,
Speaker 4: chicken and mole into her husband's lunch pack.
Speaker 7: Magnanas I was very excited when Lupita responded to an
Speaker 7: email for me and said I could come visit her
Speaker 7: in Fresno, where she lives with her husband and two children.
Speaker 4: After driving nearly four hours from La we arrived to
Speaker 4: the middle class, suburban blurred neighborhood of Fresno. Poopita's house
Speaker 4: is an average ranch style home with three beds and
Speaker 4: two bats on a quiet street. She greeted us at
Speaker 4: the door, and my first thought was that she was
Speaker 4: very sweet and pretty, but also anxious. She immediately said
Speaker 4: that she rarely had guests over. My team and I
Speaker 4: set up our gear and headed to her sunny, bright backyard.
Speaker 2: This is where we're going to be making the tortillas.
Speaker 2: This is where I usually make the homemade food.
Speaker 4: Noopita was wearing up tube top, snug flair yoga pants
Speaker 4: and her jet black hair woven into two braids that
Speaker 4: gently fell on either side of her face. In the
Speaker 4: middle of the yard, there was a rustic outdoor kitchen
Speaker 4: with a traditional comide.
Speaker 2: And just put a little bit of fire on it.
Speaker 4: A flat round griddle that's used to make dorothiez.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I built this.
Speaker 2: My husband build it for warm me not too long ago.
Speaker 4: There's a large Mexican flag hanging at the back of
Speaker 4: the kitchen and several animal skulls hanging on the sidewall.
Speaker 5: And he's very into like hunting, so this is actually
Speaker 5: real deer that he hunts, so he put it there
Speaker 5: to give it a nice little touch to the kitchen.
Speaker 4: It was surreal to be standing in the kitchen I
Speaker 4: had seen so many times and the star of the
Speaker 4: show was standing in front of me. I watched as
Speaker 4: she recorded a new TikTok video.
Speaker 5: Okay, so we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Do that video.
Speaker 4: Lupita is moving around a tripod that's holding her phone
Speaker 4: recording as she prepares a soup la. She's warming up
Speaker 4: a saucer with water and cutting up ingredients like garlic
Speaker 4: and onion.
Speaker 2: I show me and then I show how I'm caringa onion.
Speaker 4: When Lupita is filming a full body shot. I catch
Speaker 4: her batting her eyelashes and smiling at the camera.
Speaker 5: I feel like the camera calls for me, and I'm
Speaker 5: passionate about it.
Speaker 4: Today. Lupita estimates that she makes three thousand dollars a
Speaker 4: month off TikTok. The platform pays creators based on how
Speaker 4: many views their videos get. She says she normally makes
Speaker 4: an additional five hundred on Instagram, and if she has
Speaker 4: a sponsorship, she can make up to four thousand a month.
Speaker 4: She's partnered with Vita Coco, Google hair Extensions, Weavy Talk,
Speaker 4: which is a hair care line, and even Rahida, who
Speaker 4: asked her to promote their song Vicaviga. Lupita started creating
Speaker 4: social media content when she was seventeen years old. Initially,
Speaker 4: she posted photos of her outfit of the day, viral dances,
Speaker 4: and also started playing around with cooking videos on Facebook.
Speaker 4: But after she got married and her kids were no
Speaker 4: longer infants, that's when she started making what the Internet
Speaker 4: likes to call tradwife content.
Speaker 5: Esmikos is.
Speaker 2: La vida.
Speaker 4: Lukita thinks that what makes her videos popular is that
Speaker 4: she combines fantasy with relatability.
Speaker 2: I think the ranch life is the fantasy.
Speaker 4: She doesn't live on a ranch, but her elaborate outdoor
Speaker 4: kitchen was modeled off the kitchen at her in laws
Speaker 4: ranch in Meetwalk, on Mexico. She likes to role model
Speaker 4: the traditional Mexican woman who makes fresh, homemade food.
Speaker 5: I think it's a fantasy for a woman to be
Speaker 5: out here in the full wall and making tortillas. Nowadays,
Speaker 5: a lot of women don't know how to make tortillas.
Speaker 5: But I think when it comes to lunch, I think
Speaker 5: is a little bit more relatable. That's why my lunch
Speaker 5: videos they were so popular. Right now, the lunch videos
Speaker 5: are trending everywhere. A lot of women are making them
Speaker 5: for their husband.
Speaker 4: So you were recording something you were already doing, Like
Speaker 4: before the recording the videos for TikTok, you were already
Speaker 4: waking up before it. Why do you wake up so
Speaker 4: early for your husband?
Speaker 5: I wake up so early because it's like a just
Speaker 5: of love. He wakes up every day to work five
Speaker 5: in the morning, and we know that it's not easy
Speaker 5: to work. Everything's expensive now, So I said, if I
Speaker 5: can do something nice to show him that he's worthy
Speaker 5: of my time and that I could also sacrifice, why not.
Speaker 5: It doesn't take a long time. I'm home all day. Hey,
Speaker 5: this is your lunch fresh.
Speaker 4: Lupita says that she thinks that men, especially like her videos,
Speaker 4: that they like seeing an attractive young woman playing that
Speaker 4: traditional role for her husband and for her. The goal
Speaker 4: is not just views and likes. She sees herself as
Speaker 4: trying to course correct the dynamic between women and men.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like you're advocating for, like the traditional
Speaker 4: wife lifestyle also.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't die down?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're worried it's going to die down. Yeah, why
Speaker 4: are you worried about that?
Speaker 5: What I'm just saying is like, you can be a
Speaker 5: business woman but also be very feminine and still take
Speaker 5: care of your kids, still be that old school woman,
Speaker 5: but still be like empower to yourself, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Coming up on Latino USA, the surprising influence that inspired
Speaker 1: Lupita to defend more traditional family roles, and we talk
Speaker 1: about who she voted for or didn't stay with us. Yes,
Speaker 1: Hey we're back and you're listening to the first episode
Speaker 1: of a collaboration between Latino USA and In Perfect Paradise.
Speaker 1: Reporter Antonia Seihido was telling us about TikToker Lupita.
Speaker 4: Did you feel like we were getting pressured to not
Speaker 4: be feminine.
Speaker 5: I think I was getting pressure to be very masculine.
Speaker 5: I grew up in a household very masculine, my mother
Speaker 5: making decisions, answer and calls.
Speaker 4: Going into this interview, I had assumed that Lupita got
Speaker 4: her value system through her religious life, but the truth
Speaker 4: is that her values were actually a rejection of certain
Speaker 4: archetypes she saw growing up. Lupita was born and grew
Speaker 4: up in Fresno.
Speaker 5: I was born Chicana, was born here, but my mom
Speaker 5: was always very busy in working.
Speaker 2: She was a businesswoman.
Speaker 5: She grew up seeing a lot of poverty and she
Speaker 5: wanted to break out of that. So she didn't want
Speaker 5: to be a traditional home life. She wanted to be
Speaker 5: a business woman.
Speaker 4: Could you tell me just what your parents did while
Speaker 4: you were growing up.
Speaker 5: They have their own merchandise business. They sell merchandise for
Speaker 5: like you know, people in the music industry.
Speaker 4: Things like hats for being northeno Aks, like Julio and Albarez.
Speaker 4: Lupita's mom ran the business with her stepfather.
Speaker 5: She w owns the calling the events, calling the stadiums,
Speaker 5: getting the permissions, and my dad would just like kind
Speaker 5: of like just swallow onto her, just make sure everything's good.
Speaker 4: Her mom was very much not a traditional housewife.
Speaker 2: She didn't really cook a lot.
Speaker 5: She would cook like maybe like little soups off in there,
Speaker 5: but she didn't want to be a traditional home wife.
Speaker 2: I grew up seeing this, and I kind of saw.
Speaker 5: That sometimes making all the decisions yourself is very stressful.
Speaker 5: I saw my mom very stressed. I don't think she
Speaker 5: got to enjoy a lot.
Speaker 4: That's interesting. You saw the stress, and you're like, I
Speaker 4: don't want that in my best too much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the person that she brought to the house
Speaker 5: was my cousin, and she took care of us.
Speaker 4: Upita says that her mom had paid for a Coo
Speaker 4: yote to bring her cousin across the border from Mexico
Speaker 4: into the US in exchange for having her take care
Speaker 4: of the household chores.
Speaker 5: And she would make this delicious food for the whole family,
Speaker 5: including my mother, And I was just like this food
Speaker 5: is amazing, like so good, and I fell in love
Speaker 5: with the kitchen. I was a child, you know, my
Speaker 5: sister was upstairs putting music. My brother was like playing games,
Speaker 5: and I said, what is she doing? So I went
Speaker 5: to the kitchen and I would just stay there and
Speaker 5: look at her watcher. She said, you want to make
Speaker 5: a tortilla. I said, no, I don't think I can
Speaker 5: do that. Come on, let me teach you. And she
Speaker 5: told me, don't take a defense at the woman should
Speaker 5: know how to do this. You're fifteen, you should know
Speaker 5: how to make these kind of foods.
Speaker 2: So she was very old school.
Speaker 4: Lupita had these two very different examples of what being
Speaker 4: a woman looked like. Her mother, who made money for
Speaker 4: the family and didn't have time to cook and could
Speaker 4: often be stressed out, and her mother's cousin was an
Speaker 4: expert at household tasks. And while one lifestyle was already
Speaker 4: appealing a lot more to her than the other, it
Speaker 4: was only once she got married herself that she understood
Speaker 4: what kind of wife and eventually mother she wanted to be.
Speaker 4: How did you meet your husband?
Speaker 5: I met my husband in one of the events that
Speaker 5: I was working on with the music business, Yeah, the
Speaker 5: music business, And he came over to the booth said hello, miss,
Speaker 5: you know how much is this hat? And I said,
Speaker 5: oh, I was twenty five. But then he said, oh, I
Speaker 5: just came to talk to you. Yeah, so he was
Speaker 5: like throwing his little shots and just being romantic and everything,
Speaker 5: and it started from there.
Speaker 4: In the love story, it was it love at first sight.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 5: So it was like you just knew. He makes me
Speaker 5: feel protected. I feel protected with him more than anything protected.
Speaker 4: When they first met, Lupita's husband painted houses. They got
Speaker 4: married in twenty fourteen, when she was twenty years old.
Speaker 4: They bought their house shortly after, and then came two kids. Initially,
Speaker 4: her husband didn't want her to be on social media
Speaker 4: at all.
Speaker 2: When I first got married.
Speaker 5: My husband's rule, get rid of all your social media?
Speaker 4: Really yeah, and how'd you feel about that? Then?
Speaker 2: I did do it.
Speaker 5: I was really big on Facebook back then. I think
Speaker 5: I have one video that I saved before he deleted everything.
Speaker 5: But I said, okay, you know what, this is not
Speaker 5: meant for me. Social media's getting gone for me.
Speaker 2: So I stopped. You know, that was his what year
Speaker 2: was that? That was maybe like twenty fifteen. So I
Speaker 2: deleted it.
Speaker 5: But for some reason, after we had our children, I said, hey,
Speaker 5: I already had my children. How do you feel if
Speaker 5: I jumped back and children? No, No, a lot of
Speaker 5: people are going to see my family how they're going
Speaker 5: to feel.
Speaker 4: What was he nervous his family was going to feel.
Speaker 2: You know, just like attention more than anything.
Speaker 5: Attention because that's what people see social media, so you
Speaker 5: want attention.
Speaker 4: And at that point, did you know you wanted to
Speaker 4: be a housewife or it was like after meeting him,
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, I could be a housewife.
Speaker 5: It was like a tug of warp at first, and
Speaker 5: we were like fighting because I was testing new waters.
Speaker 5: I saw growing up that my mother had all the
Speaker 5: pants and all this power, so I said, I have
Speaker 5: to administer the money.
Speaker 2: I have to do this, I have to do that.
Speaker 5: So he was just like, this is not the way
Speaker 5: that I grew up. It was like very like clashing.
Speaker 5: And then as time, I don't know if it was
Speaker 5: meant to be. I saw a TikTok saying, you know,
Speaker 5: let a man be a man and the woman be
Speaker 5: a woman. Take it down a little bit and like
Speaker 5: be a little bit submissive.
Speaker 2: But it was a woman that was very motivational.
Speaker 5: It was a Mexican woman and she was said, why
Speaker 5: are you trying to take on a role of a
Speaker 5: man when you already have the role of being a mother,
Speaker 5: taking care of kids, and you want to add on
Speaker 5: to be doing what the man does. So I said, relax,
Speaker 5: let him lead. Let's see where it goes.
Speaker 4: How did that change your life? Like, how did that
Speaker 4: actually play out?
Speaker 5: I'm in peace. I'm in peace because when you're a woman,
Speaker 5: you already have enough. And then telling him how to
Speaker 5: run the house, telling him what to do, just let
Speaker 5: him be a man, let him lead you, and yeah,
Speaker 5: it has work. The more I shut up, I know
Speaker 5: it sounds bad, but the more that I shut up
Speaker 5: and stop whining, I see.
Speaker 2: That it works.
Speaker 4: Eventually, Lupita's husband, Kevin, softened to the idea of Lupita
Speaker 4: making videos again. She said that once he saw how
Speaker 4: passionate she was about it, he became okay with it.
Speaker 4: I later spoke to Kevin on the phone to get
Speaker 4: his side of the story, and I asked him why
Speaker 4: he deleted all of Lupita's social media.
Speaker 7: I don't know, if it's just like mature.
Speaker 4: He said that he was nineteen and immature at the time.
Speaker 4: He also told me that he likes that Lupita takes
Speaker 4: on a traditional role at the home and it's how
Speaker 4: he was raised, so he thinks it's normal.
Speaker 5: But I'm not like the traditional men like a great
Speaker 5: web or something like that. I'm more like shield did
Speaker 5: you grow up with?
Speaker 4: That was your mom like the housekeeper at home and
Speaker 4: your dad made the money.
Speaker 6: Yes, for me, that's something I see all my life.
Speaker 6: So for me, it's like something normal. I don't feel like, oh, really,
Speaker 6: they have to do it because that's the job or
Speaker 6: something like that.
Speaker 4: She does, so I like, yeah, like you wouldn't want
Speaker 4: to force someone in that situation, but if they like it,
Speaker 4: you like it. Yes. He also said that now he's
Speaker 4: really supportive of her videos and thinks it's cool that
Speaker 4: she's making her own money from something that she loves
Speaker 4: to do, and that all the money she makes he
Speaker 4: wants her to keep for herself. In the next five years,
Speaker 4: Lupita told me she sees herself expanding into creating a
Speaker 4: business selling her own products leggings and health supplements. Today,
Speaker 4: she settled into her routine. She wakes up at four
Speaker 4: in the morning, makes lunch for her husband, takes her
Speaker 4: kids to school, goes to the gym, keeps making content
Speaker 4: while her kids are at school, and then picks them up.
Speaker 4: Do you get lonely?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 5: I think before I had my kids, I was lonely.
Speaker 5: I think now I'm very comfortable with being alone. I
Speaker 5: think that's my strength. I think right now my weakness
Speaker 5: is to socialize. Now I'm too comfortable with being alone
Speaker 5: too much that I need to like socialize more because
Speaker 5: I need to.
Speaker 2: Know what's going on.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like social media is your community?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 5: Yes, social media is my community for sure. I enjoy
Speaker 5: very much.
Speaker 4: I want us to know about Lupita's politics. I saw
Speaker 4: a post of hers where she was at an anti
Speaker 4: ICE rally in Fresno, but as my interview went on
Speaker 4: with her, I had a hard time parsing out what
Speaker 4: exactly her political position was. On the one hand, she
Speaker 4: did seem very concerned about the immigration system in the
Speaker 4: United States.
Speaker 5: I think ICE should really try to help the Mexican
Speaker 5: community just in general. I think people should be able
Speaker 5: to be here free if you're paying taxes, and the criminals,
Speaker 5: obviously they should be deported. But I think everyone has
Speaker 5: the right to have an opportunity to better their life.
Speaker 4: But Lupita also raise concern about an issue that's basically
Speaker 4: become a bell weather for MAGA women. What are the
Speaker 4: issues you most care about?
Speaker 5: Child trafficking. I think that one hits my soul. I
Speaker 5: don't think a lot of people talk about it.
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty, the hashtag save the Children became viral
Speaker 4: as a part of a QAnon conspiracy that liberal politicians
Speaker 4: and celebrities like Barack Obama, Lady Gaga, Hillary Clinton, and
Speaker 4: others were part of a cabal of elites who are
Speaker 4: pedophiles and child murderers. Since then, there's been sustained panic
Speaker 4: about child trafficking, especially online.
Speaker 5: I think we are failing our kids because child trafficking.
Speaker 5: Just because these kids are getting trafficked and you have
Speaker 5: your kids at home doesn't mean it doesn't affect you.
Speaker 5: It affects you because now you can't take your kids
Speaker 5: and just leave them anywhere. You can't trust anybody.
Speaker 4: Nubia told me that she had voted for Joe Biden,
Speaker 4: but was quickly disillusioned by how expensive everything was during
Speaker 4: his term. She became cynical, who did you vote for
Speaker 4: in the last presidential election?
Speaker 5: To be honest, if I'm completely honest with you, I
Speaker 5: didn't really vote. I think either way v bothe of
Speaker 5: the presidents are going to do as they wish, whatever's
Speaker 5: best for them. I think we've seen that they really
Speaker 5: haven't done anything to help the people, but make everything
Speaker 5: rise so expensive living. So at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: I think that they're going to do what they want
Speaker 5: to do, whether you vote for them or this.
Speaker 4: Like neither of the candidates inspired you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Basically leaving Presno, I had a belly full of delicious
Speaker 4: cheese soup made by Lupita and was feeling a mix
Speaker 4: of warmth and weariness. Lupita had been so welcoming. She
Speaker 4: was as charming in person as she is in her videos.
Speaker 4: I also felt I fully understood what drew her to
Speaker 4: her person sense of traditional values. While Lupita's messaging is
Speaker 4: decidedly not feminist, especially what she has to say about
Speaker 4: submitting to her husband, her personal narrative goes with the
Speaker 4: larger theory that the rise of popularity of tradwife content
Speaker 4: is a reaction to third wave feminism. Women made many
Speaker 4: professional gains, but not necessarily gains in the domestic sphere,
Speaker 4: often creating a double work day for women with families.
Speaker 4: The tradwife is a rejection of that, an attempt to
Speaker 4: create more labor equity in the relationship. In some ways,
Speaker 4: it seems like it's working for Lupita, but spending so
Speaker 4: much time alone at home is isolating and means that
Speaker 4: one of the primary ways she interacts with the world
Speaker 4: is through her phone. I was concerned about the trustworthiness
Speaker 4: of the information she was getting through social media. I
Speaker 4: called Lupita several months later to do some fact checking
Speaker 4: about her own story, and she mentioned to me that
Speaker 4: she's a fan of cam Owens, the far right commentator,
Speaker 4: and also that she's really concerned about the murder of
Speaker 4: children in Gaza. She even posted about its uses as
Speaker 4: personas Inocentes, Lubida continued to defy categorization. Her political beliefs
Speaker 4: don't appear rooted in democratic or Republican ideology, but instead
Speaker 4: seem like a new concoction curated by the algorithm that
Speaker 4: feeds the content on her for you page. She ended
Speaker 4: the call by telling me that our time together meant
Speaker 4: a lot to her. She told me that she feels
Speaker 4: like she's in a new chapter of her life where
Speaker 4: she wants to meet more people in person and quote
Speaker 4: spread her wings. She told me that she's open to
Speaker 4: voting in the future if there's a candidate she feels
Speaker 4: wants to make the lives of immigrants and families safer, healthier,
Speaker 4: and better. I found myself nodding along, kind of surprised
Speaker 4: that the world Lubida ultimately wants to live in is
Speaker 4: one that I want to live into.
Speaker 1: Coming up in the next two weeks of our special
Speaker 1: collaboration with Elieist, social media isn't the only force influencing
Speaker 1: Latino attitudes in this country. There's something else, hope, or
Speaker 1: maybe the loss of it when it comes to the
Speaker 1: American dream. But is the American dream being replaced by
Speaker 1: the Mexican dream. Then later, we're going to take a
Speaker 1: deep dive into a debate that's happening among Latino pollsters,
Speaker 1: and we're going to look at the role that data
Speaker 1: and messaging played in the last election and how that
Speaker 1: influenced Latinos and their votes. This episode was written and
Speaker 1: produced by Antonio Sejuido, the host of Imperfect Paradise. It
Speaker 1: was edited by Maria Garcia and Marlon Bishop. Senior producers
Speaker 1: for this episode were Emily Geren and Natalie Chovnowski. Production
Speaker 1: help from Monica Moreles, Garcia, and James Chow. It was
Speaker 1: mixed by Stephanie Lebau and Julia Cruso from Latino USA.
Speaker 1: Fact checking for this episode by Roxanna Guire. The Latino
Speaker 1: USA team also includes Fernanda Chavari, Jessica Ellis, Dominique Innestrosa,
Speaker 1: Victoria Estrada, Renaldo Leanos Junior, Andre Lopez Gruzzado, Luis Luna,
Speaker 1: Marta Martinez, j J. Carubin, Dasha sannoal Nour Saudi and
Speaker 1: Nancy Trujillo, Penileamirez, Marlon Bishop, Marie Garzi I are co
Speaker 1: executive producers and I'm Your Host Marieno Hosa. Catherine Mailhouse
Speaker 1: is executive producer of Imperfect Paradise, also the director of
Speaker 1: content Development Astella Proximayes Chao.
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