WEBVTT - Getting Lost in Latina Trad Wife TikTok 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.880 If you're on the Internet, you've probably seen a rise 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:06.680 in a certain kind of social media video. I know 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:07.080 I have. 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:10.200 Here's everything I prep for my husband for the next 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:11.000 two days. 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:11.840 Tradwives. 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:15.200 The definition of a tradwife is not merely someone who 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:19.040 stays at home, but who romanticizes it. Where we are 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:21.520 looking back not only to the way things worked in 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:24.960 the fifties, but the values that families had in the fifties. 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:29.400 They are wives and mothers making beautiful, elaborate meals for 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:35.360 their husbands and children, sometimes wearing designer dresses. The Internet 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:39.240 has been quick to call them tradwives, women who advocate 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:43.920 for traditional gender roles, and some of them are Latin US. 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:45.080 We won. 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:55.480 A launch, but they're not letting themselves get boxed in 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:01.960 from Futromedia and the RX, It's USA. I'm Marian Josa 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:06.640 today a collaboration with Imperfect Paradise from Las Studios. We 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:11.919 go deep with a viral Latina tradwife and we're joined by. 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:13.240 Host Antonio Sadaji. 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:20.479 Though so Antonia, we used to work together. The first 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:23.520 time Donald Trump was elected. We were actually in the 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:27.280 same newsroom here in New York City. Fast forward to 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:31.600 twenty twenty four. I'm in New York, you're in LA 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:37.399 and Donald Trump wins again. Latinos came out for this 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:42.400 Republican candidate, winning forty six percent of their votes. Donald 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:46.520 Trump broke the record for the percentage of Latino votes 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:48.480 for a Republican candidate. 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.480 And while I know Latinos are not a monolith, I 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:55.560 wanted to understand what's informing Latino attitudes and their decisions 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:59.320 culturally and politically. What are some of the forces that 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:03.520 Influencedino values in this country. We're doing a special three 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:07.000 episode series all about this question, and on today's episode, 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:11.280 we are turning towards TikTok. And I think there's one 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:16.840 corner of TikTok that is particularly enlightening, and that's Latina 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:22.400 tradwife TikTok. Is that I remember scrolling TikTok as a 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.440 distraction to my anxiety on election day. I had re 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:28.800 downloaded it after some months of being off TikTok, and 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.720 the first ten videos I got were like these women 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:35.200 with like super long painted fingernails and they were making 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:37.840 lonche or lunch for their husbands. 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.640 Y'all better not start in the comments talk about just 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.320 pack at the night before, girl, are you the one 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.120 getting up bright and early to feed my man? 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:52.920 I think the hell not. And then I went to 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:56.120 the comments, and people were either like idolizing them, you know, 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:59.000 being wow, like that's so beautiful, gmoso that you're making 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.680 lunch for your husband, or people being like, oh my god, 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.080 I would never wake up at three am for my husband, 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.919 like that's insane. And I just, you know, I fell 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.760 down the Datina tradwife rabbit hole. 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:17.079 Now there is a larger tradwife movement on the Internet 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:22.320 of mostly white, affluent Christian and Mormon women. I'm thinking 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.760 of the very well known tradwife Ballerina Farm. 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:27.760 We are making a rubbed heart. 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.399 We got ready for church, the girls and I got 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:35.440 started on the hamburger buns, sourdoa candles, when new tinsels, 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:39.240 and honey and seasoning and dish soap, granola, all of it. 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.520 Many of these women don't explicitly talk about politics, but 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:45.840 they do seem sort of maga coated in the sense 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:50.400 that they reflect a cultural return to very gendered family values, 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:54.120 which means women are responsible for raising the children and 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.280 taking care of the home, cooking and cleaning while men 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.120 are out earning the money now. 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.440 Of course, Mexican and Latina women have been feeding and 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:05.640 taking care of their families since pre Columbian times. I mean, 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:10.040 my mom cooked every single day, and you know it 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.320 was a part of what made my home really special. 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:16.480 Yeah, it's interesting to see this practice of making food 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:20.600 for one's family presented in this potentially maga coated way, 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.479 yearning for this past where men and women had these 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.479 traditional roles. And one of the things we covered a 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:29.360 lot at Latino USA was how more and more Latino 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.159 women are getting higher education degrees. And that's part of 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:34.840 the reason we see this big gap between Latino men 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.159 and women in terms of how they're voting, because it 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:39.200 tends to be that people who are more educated tend 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:42.919 to vote in more progressive ways. And watching these women, 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.159 you know, these Latino tradwives, I was transfixed by them 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.040 and I was thinking to myself, I actually don't know 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:53.360 where these women stand. Like they're presenting this idealized lifestyle, 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.800 but I actually don't know what they care about. What 0:04:55.880 --> 0:05:00.560 are these women's political beliefs and what's influencing and informing 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:01.400 those beliefs. 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.160 And so this week on Latino USA, we are going 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:09.640 to trace the story of one Latina trad wife. Her 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:15.159 name is Lupita and Argerida Antonia Sejido is going to 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:19.760 take it from here. 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:25.800 Lupita has over half a million followers on TikTok under 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:32.240 the handle Louvo. On Instagram, she has over one hundred thousand. 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.320 She's thirty three. She's got long, flowing black hair and 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:40.200 wears tight clothing that accentuates her curvy fit figure. There 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:42.680 is a lot of variety in her videos. Sometimes she's 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:49.520 lip syncing or dancing to musica. She could be shopping 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.279 at the grocery store, pumping gas, or even one time 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:56.400 riding a horse. She also talks about empathy, caring for others, 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:57.880 and inner beauty. You know. 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:00.680 Instet Merina. 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.360 But there are two kinds of videos that are sort 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:07.960 of her bread and butter and tend to perform the best. 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:11.120 The first kind are these cooking videos that she records 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:20.200 in her outdoor rustic kitchen, Oh You. And the second 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.280 type of video is a genre that got me down 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.599 the Latina trodwife path. To begin with the videos where 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.960 she makes lunche or lunch for her blue collar husband 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.760 at three a m. She films those in her indoor 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:39.440 kitchen Lanchez delivery. In the videos, we can see Lupita 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.680 smizing at the camera between quick takes of her chopping 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:47.640 sauteng and packing up food like aonias meatballs, stuffed bell peppers, 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.120 chicken and mole into her husband's lunch pack. 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:59.240 Magnanas I was very excited when Lupita responded to an 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.320 email for me and said I could come visit her 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.120 in Fresno, where she lives with her husband and two children. 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.560 After driving nearly four hours from La we arrived to 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:12.880 the middle class, suburban blurred neighborhood of Fresno. Poopita's house 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.480 is an average ranch style home with three beds and 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.680 two bats on a quiet street. She greeted us at 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.600 the door, and my first thought was that she was 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:24.720 very sweet and pretty, but also anxious. She immediately said 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.720 that she rarely had guests over. My team and I 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.520 set up our gear and headed to her sunny, bright backyard. 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.560 This is where we're going to be making the tortillas. 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.520 This is where I usually make the homemade food. 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:41.480 Noopita was wearing up tube top, snug flair yoga pants 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.120 and her jet black hair woven into two braids that 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:47.000 gently fell on either side of her face. In the 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.480 middle of the yard, there was a rustic outdoor kitchen 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:51.640 with a traditional comide. 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.160 And just put a little bit of fire on it. 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.760 A flat round griddle that's used to make dorothiez. 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:56.280 Yeah. 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.000 I built this. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:02.600 My husband build it for warm me not too long ago. 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.440 There's a large Mexican flag hanging at the back of 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.720 the kitchen and several animal skulls hanging on the sidewall. 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:13.040 And he's very into like hunting, so this is actually 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.800 real deer that he hunts, so he put it there 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.000 to give it a nice little touch to the kitchen. 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.920 It was surreal to be standing in the kitchen I 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.760 had seen so many times and the star of the 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.720 show was standing in front of me. I watched as 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:29.480 she recorded a new TikTok video. 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:36.040 Okay, so we're gonna. 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:37.000 Do that video. 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.319 Lupita is moving around a tripod that's holding her phone 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:47.840 recording as she prepares a soup la. She's warming up 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.559 a saucer with water and cutting up ingredients like garlic 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:51.120 and onion. 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:54.200 I show me and then I show how I'm caringa onion. 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.320 When Lupita is filming a full body shot. I catch 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:00.160 her batting her eyelashes and smiling at the camera. 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:02.800 I feel like the camera calls for me, and I'm 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:03.839 passionate about it. 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:09.920 Today. Lupita estimates that she makes three thousand dollars a 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:13.280 month off TikTok. The platform pays creators based on how 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:16.120 many views their videos get. She says she normally makes 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.720 an additional five hundred on Instagram, and if she has 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.160 a sponsorship, she can make up to four thousand a month. 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:25.560 She's partnered with Vita Coco, Google hair Extensions, Weavy Talk, 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.679 which is a hair care line, and even Rahida, who 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:34.520 asked her to promote their song Vicaviga. Lupita started creating 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.880 social media content when she was seventeen years old. Initially, 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:41.160 she posted photos of her outfit of the day, viral dances, 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.439 and also started playing around with cooking videos on Facebook. 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:46.840 But after she got married and her kids were no 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:50.000 longer infants, that's when she started making what the Internet 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.320 likes to call tradwife content. 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:57.000 Esmikos is. 0:09:58.920 --> 0:09:59.400 La vida. 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.720 Lukita thinks that what makes her videos popular is that 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.280 she combines fantasy with relatability. 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.680 I think the ranch life is the fantasy. 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:11.360 She doesn't live on a ranch, but her elaborate outdoor 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.120 kitchen was modeled off the kitchen at her in laws 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:17.439 ranch in Meetwalk, on Mexico. She likes to role model 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.600 the traditional Mexican woman who makes fresh, homemade food. 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:25.840 I think it's a fantasy for a woman to be 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:29.920 out here in the full wall and making tortillas. Nowadays, 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.560 a lot of women don't know how to make tortillas. 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.520 But I think when it comes to lunch, I think 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.079 is a little bit more relatable. That's why my lunch 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:42.120 videos they were so popular. Right now, the lunch videos 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.720 are trending everywhere. A lot of women are making them 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:45.920 for their husband. 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.720 So you were recording something you were already doing, Like 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.199 before the recording the videos for TikTok, you were already 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.400 waking up before it. Why do you wake up so 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:55.520 early for your husband? 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.840 I wake up so early because it's like a just 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.000 of love. He wakes up every day to work five 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.440 in the morning, and we know that it's not easy 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:09.480 to work. Everything's expensive now, So I said, if I 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.160 can do something nice to show him that he's worthy 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.440 of my time and that I could also sacrifice, why not. 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.480 It doesn't take a long time. I'm home all day. Hey, 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.320 this is your lunch fresh. 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:27.120 Lupita says that she thinks that men, especially like her videos, 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.280 that they like seeing an attractive young woman playing that 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.520 traditional role for her husband and for her. The goal 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.319 is not just views and likes. She sees herself as 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.800 trying to course correct the dynamic between women and men. 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:42.840 Do you feel like you're advocating for, like the traditional 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:44.280 wife lifestyle also. 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:45.480 So it doesn't die down? 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.040 Yeah, you're worried it's going to die down. Yeah, why 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:49.000 are you worried about that? 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.640 What I'm just saying is like, you can be a 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:56.720 business woman but also be very feminine and still take 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.920 care of your kids, still be that old school woman, 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:04.400 but still be like empower to yourself, if that makes sense. 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:12.600 Coming up on Latino USA, the surprising influence that inspired 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:17.640 Lupita to defend more traditional family roles, and we talk 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:24.559 about who she voted for or didn't stay with us. Yes, 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:38.040 Hey we're back and you're listening to the first episode 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:42.120 of a collaboration between Latino USA and In Perfect Paradise. 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:47.720 Reporter Antonia Seihido was telling us about TikToker Lupita. 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.400 Did you feel like we were getting pressured to not 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:52.120 be feminine. 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.360 I think I was getting pressure to be very masculine. 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.040 I grew up in a household very masculine, my mother 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:00.680 making decisions, answer and calls. 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.240 Going into this interview, I had assumed that Lupita got 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:07.840 her value system through her religious life, but the truth 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:10.680 is that her values were actually a rejection of certain 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:14.280 archetypes she saw growing up. Lupita was born and grew 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:15.160 up in Fresno. 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.440 I was born Chicana, was born here, but my mom 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.200 was always very busy in working. 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:21.719 She was a businesswoman. 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:25.320 She grew up seeing a lot of poverty and she 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:28.760 wanted to break out of that. So she didn't want 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:32.680 to be a traditional home life. She wanted to be 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:33.559 a business woman. 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:35.520 Could you tell me just what your parents did while 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:36.199 you were growing up. 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:40.440 They have their own merchandise business. They sell merchandise for 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.679 like you know, people in the music industry. 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:46.679 Things like hats for being northeno Aks, like Julio and Albarez. 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.600 Lupita's mom ran the business with her stepfather. 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:54.080 She w owns the calling the events, calling the stadiums, 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.920 getting the permissions, and my dad would just like kind 0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:01.320 of like just swallow onto her, just make sure everything's good. 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.840 Her mom was very much not a traditional housewife. 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:06.719 She didn't really cook a lot. 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:10.160 She would cook like maybe like little soups off in there, 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:14.199 but she didn't want to be a traditional home wife. 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.480 I grew up seeing this, and I kind of saw. 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:22.040 That sometimes making all the decisions yourself is very stressful. 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:25.040 I saw my mom very stressed. I don't think she 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:26.760 got to enjoy a lot. 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:29.720 That's interesting. You saw the stress, and you're like, I 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:31.560 don't want that in my best too much. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.200 Yeah, but the person that she brought to the house 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:36.720 was my cousin, and she took care of us. 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:38.800 Upita says that her mom had paid for a Coo 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.600 yote to bring her cousin across the border from Mexico 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:44.720 into the US in exchange for having her take care 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:45.920 of the household chores. 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.880 And she would make this delicious food for the whole family, 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:54.240 including my mother, And I was just like this food 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:57.520 is amazing, like so good, and I fell in love 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:01.280 with the kitchen. I was a child, you know, my 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:05.080 sister was upstairs putting music. My brother was like playing games, 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:07.360 and I said, what is she doing? So I went 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.560 to the kitchen and I would just stay there and 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:11.800 look at her watcher. She said, you want to make 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.280 a tortilla. I said, no, I don't think I can 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.640 do that. Come on, let me teach you. And she 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.560 told me, don't take a defense at the woman should 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:22.720 know how to do this. You're fifteen, you should know 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:24.840 how to make these kind of foods. 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.000 So she was very old school. 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:30.760 Lupita had these two very different examples of what being 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.600 a woman looked like. Her mother, who made money for 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:35.680 the family and didn't have time to cook and could 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.800 often be stressed out, and her mother's cousin was an 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:42.680 expert at household tasks. And while one lifestyle was already 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.320 appealing a lot more to her than the other, it 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.240 was only once she got married herself that she understood 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.000 what kind of wife and eventually mother she wanted to be. 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:53.000 How did you meet your husband? 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.280 I met my husband in one of the events that 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.520 I was working on with the music business, Yeah, the 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:01.000 music business, And he came over to the booth said hello, miss, 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.200 you know how much is this hat? And I said, 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.440 oh, I was twenty five. But then he said, oh, I 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:07.840 just came to talk to you. Yeah, so he was 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.480 like throwing his little shots and just being romantic and everything, 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.280 and it started from there. 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.720 In the love story, it was it love at first sight. 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:15.920 I think. 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.640 So it was like you just knew. He makes me 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:22.960 feel protected. I feel protected with him more than anything protected. 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.760 When they first met, Lupita's husband painted houses. They got 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.280 married in twenty fourteen, when she was twenty years old. 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:33.840 They bought their house shortly after, and then came two kids. Initially, 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.600 her husband didn't want her to be on social media 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:37.200 at all. 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:39.160 When I first got married. 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:43.119 My husband's rule, get rid of all your social media? 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.160 Really yeah, and how'd you feel about that? Then? 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:46.040 I did do it. 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:50.160 I was really big on Facebook back then. I think 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:53.080 I have one video that I saved before he deleted everything. 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:55.640 But I said, okay, you know what, this is not 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.120 meant for me. Social media's getting gone for me. 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.160 So I stopped. You know, that was his what year 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:05.200 was that? That was maybe like twenty fifteen. So I 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:05.920 deleted it. 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.600 But for some reason, after we had our children, I said, hey, 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:13.440 I already had my children. How do you feel if 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.480 I jumped back and children? No, No, a lot of 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.040 people are going to see my family how they're going 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:19.480 to feel. 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:22.440 What was he nervous his family was going to feel. 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:26.560 You know, just like attention more than anything. 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.800 Attention because that's what people see social media, so you 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:30.359 want attention. 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.040 And at that point, did you know you wanted to 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:35.800 be a housewife or it was like after meeting him, 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:37.280 you're like, oh, I could be a housewife. 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:39.399 It was like a tug of warp at first, and 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.840 we were like fighting because I was testing new waters. 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.280 I saw growing up that my mother had all the 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.720 pants and all this power, so I said, I have 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:50.119 to administer the money. 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.159 I have to do this, I have to do that. 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.840 So he was just like, this is not the way 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:59.760 that I grew up. It was like very like clashing. 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:02.960 And then as time, I don't know if it was 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.320 meant to be. I saw a TikTok saying, you know, 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.720 let a man be a man and the woman be 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:12.240 a woman. Take it down a little bit and like 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:14.119 be a little bit submissive. 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:16.720 But it was a woman that was very motivational. 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.480 It was a Mexican woman and she was said, why 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.840 are you trying to take on a role of a 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:24.800 man when you already have the role of being a mother, 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:27.119 taking care of kids, and you want to add on 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:32.200 to be doing what the man does. So I said, relax, 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:35.680 let him lead. Let's see where it goes. 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.080 How did that change your life? Like, how did that 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:38.840 actually play out? 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:44.359 I'm in peace. I'm in peace because when you're a woman, 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.520 you already have enough. And then telling him how to 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.159 run the house, telling him what to do, just let 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:53.520 him be a man, let him lead you, and yeah, 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:55.520 it has work. The more I shut up, I know 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:57.800 it sounds bad, but the more that I shut up 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.000 and stop whining, I see. 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:00.600 That it works. 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.639 Eventually, Lupita's husband, Kevin, softened to the idea of Lupita 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.439 making videos again. She said that once he saw how 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:17.879 passionate she was about it, he became okay with it. 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:20.760 I later spoke to Kevin on the phone to get 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:23.040 his side of the story, and I asked him why 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:25.000 he deleted all of Lupita's social media. 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:27.919 I don't know, if it's just like mature. 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.760 He said that he was nineteen and immature at the time. 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.280 He also told me that he likes that Lupita takes 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:35.879 on a traditional role at the home and it's how 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:38.119 he was raised, so he thinks it's normal. 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:41.760 But I'm not like the traditional men like a great 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:45.000 web or something like that. I'm more like shield did 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:45.639 you grow up with? 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.119 That was your mom like the housekeeper at home and 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:49.240 your dad made the money. 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:52.200 Yes, for me, that's something I see all my life. 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.480 So for me, it's like something normal. I don't feel like, oh, really, 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:57.720 they have to do it because that's the job or 0:19:57.800 --> 0:19:58.280 something like that. 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.880 She does, so I like, yeah, like you wouldn't want 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.399 to force someone in that situation, but if they like it, 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:08.960 you like it. Yes. He also said that now he's 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.879 really supportive of her videos and thinks it's cool that 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:14.280 she's making her own money from something that she loves 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:16.520 to do, and that all the money she makes he 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:19.560 wants her to keep for herself. In the next five years, 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:22.920 Lupita told me she sees herself expanding into creating a 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:27.760 business selling her own products leggings and health supplements. Today, 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:30.320 she settled into her routine. She wakes up at four 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:33.119 in the morning, makes lunch for her husband, takes her 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:36.399 kids to school, goes to the gym, keeps making content 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:38.679 while her kids are at school, and then picks them up. 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:40.600 Do you get lonely? 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:41.280 Uh? 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:45.160 I think before I had my kids, I was lonely. 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:50.040 I think now I'm very comfortable with being alone. I 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:54.120 think that's my strength. I think right now my weakness 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:58.320 is to socialize. Now I'm too comfortable with being alone 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:02.840 too much that I need to like socialize more because 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:03.240 I need to. 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:05.920 Know what's going on. 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:08.040 Do you feel like social media is your community? 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:08.560 Yes? 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:12.240 Yes, social media is my community for sure. I enjoy 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:12.920 very much. 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:17.800 I want us to know about Lupita's politics. I saw 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:19.720 a post of hers where she was at an anti 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:22.840 ICE rally in Fresno, but as my interview went on 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:25.119