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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to the Daily Show Ears edition. This
Speaker 2: is Josh Johnson, correspond for the Daily Show. I am
Speaker 2: here with a contributor for The Daily Show, Charlemagne the God.
Speaker 1: How you, Josh? What's up? My brother?
Speaker 2: Not too much, you know, but you were you were
Speaker 2: here doing your piece. In my opinion on Kamala as
Speaker 2: a DEI hier.
Speaker 3: Coordin the Republicans, Tim Walls, isn't the DEI Higher because
Speaker 3: to them, every letter in DEI actually stands for the
Speaker 3: same thing, black, black, black, which means the real DEI
Speaker 3: candidate is Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4: She's a diversity higher.
Speaker 1: Of course she's a DEI Higher.
Speaker 4: She was AI and incompetent diversity higher.
Speaker 1: This woman, this disaster, whose only qualification was having a
Speaker 1: vagina and the right skin color.
Speaker 3: That's right, having dark skin in the vagina is an
Speaker 3: instant path to the Oval office.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: If you don't believe me, take it up with Ronald
Speaker 3: Reagan's black pussy Listen, man, this argument is so stupid
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 1: If being a woman or a minority with.
Speaker 3: The golden ticket to get in the head in politics,
Speaker 3: then President Andrew Yang would have already done universal basic
Speaker 3: income and President Kanye West would have already changed the
Speaker 3: national anthem to gold digger. Okay, I mean the real
Speaker 3: jewel that I was trying to get across in the
Speaker 3: piece wasn't even the fact that Kama's a di higher,
Speaker 3: because we know she's not a Dei Hi. It's the
Speaker 3: fact that these media outlets, the CNNs, you know, the
Speaker 3: ABC News, the MSNBC, they take these silly racist attacks
Speaker 3: and center them as the point of the debate. So
Speaker 3: you'll go on these shows and they'll be like, it's
Speaker 3: Kamala Dei Hire. Is Kamala Harris black? Why are we
Speaker 3: discussing this? Why is there a whole round table of
Speaker 3: people having this conversation. Those are editorial choices that these
Speaker 3: news networks are making. Like it's a bunch of people
Speaker 3: who go in the room and they say, this is
Speaker 3: what we're going to center today, this is what we're
Speaker 3: gonna put on the lower third, this is what we're
Speaker 3: gonna have people discuss for the next hour.
Speaker 1: And I just think that's a waste of time.
Speaker 4: Talk about racial identity dominated the headlines.
Speaker 2: The claims about Vice President Harris's identity will probably make
Speaker 2: the most headlines.
Speaker 3: What do you mean these claims will make the most
Speaker 3: headlines CNN, MSNBC, ABC. You're the ones who decide what
Speaker 3: the headlines are.
Speaker 4: These issues don't.
Speaker 3: Make headlines unless you put it in the headline.
Speaker 1: And none of these issues should be a headline.
Speaker 3: If a guy came up to me on the street
Speaker 3: saying the vice president is a million, she can transform
Speaker 3: from Indian to black, I sint it. I'd be like, well,
Speaker 3: God bless you, sir, here's two dollars.
Speaker 1: I gotta go.
Speaker 2: Okay, it just feels like, okay, do you watch any
Speaker 2: combat sports?
Speaker 4: You watch any like the UFCI?
Speaker 2: Okay, it feels like when there's a fight night, And
Speaker 2: this is across all combat sports, so it's not necessarily
Speaker 2: a UFC. Thing happens in boxing a lot where they're
Speaker 2: trying to sell the fight, but one person clearly has
Speaker 2: more attributes than the other person, so then they will
Speaker 2: sell the fight by being like, then they'll do it
Speaker 2: in the highlight reels. They'll be someone that's good everywhere,
Speaker 2: and then the other person they'll be like, and he kicks, ooh,
Speaker 2: he kicks, and then and here's the same clip of
Speaker 2: him kicking the same guy five times because they have
Speaker 2: fifteen clips the other guy doing all that stuff, but
Speaker 2: the other guy because they know that if they just
Speaker 2: say and then this person kind of sucks, you won't watch.
Speaker 2: And that's what it feels like, is that, you know,
Speaker 2: I know I'm on TV show, but it feels like
Speaker 2: the News twenty four to seven has a season to
Speaker 2: get through, and so they use these things that are
Speaker 2: a little bit easy and they know will spark conversation
Speaker 2: and they know we'll get backlash and maybe lead to
Speaker 2: another piece that's easy for them to cover. So then
Speaker 2: they're just trying to get by.
Speaker 1: But they don't have to do that.
Speaker 3: They're the news, Like you turn on CNN because you
Speaker 3: want the news. You turn on MSNBC because you want
Speaker 3: the news. You turn on Fox when you want to
Speaker 3: be entertained, You turn on the Daily Show when you
Speaker 3: want to be entertained.
Speaker 4: No, I think I think you're right.
Speaker 2: I just think that they don't realize that because one,
Speaker 2: I mean, once once news and money become a sort
Speaker 2: of like energetic force where they're just like, I want
Speaker 2: to make sure as many people are watching as possible
Speaker 2: because of the ads, because of the sponsor numbers and everything.
Speaker 2: That is when you start to do some of the
Speaker 2: more salacious stuff. And so it's like, I think that
Speaker 2: it's a test everything, Like even with Biden dropping out,
Speaker 2: it's a testament to the fact that they actually do
Speaker 2: know what's up outside of necessarily what's always presented on camera.
Speaker 2: And part of that hypocrisy is later you'll see in
Speaker 2: a panel on CNN when when a CNN contributor is like, oh,
Speaker 2: I have all these people texting me from all around,
Speaker 2: from people in the campaign, from people, people, people, people,
Speaker 2: people all texting me that like, yeah, we're worried about Biden.
Speaker 2: And it's like, okay, but where was all of that? Absolutely,
Speaker 2: and I think that it's also easy to just go
Speaker 2: over the conversation seems to be going so rather than
Speaker 2: the news treating itself like a trendsetter, which it is,
Speaker 2: it's trying to follow the trend of the people, which
Speaker 2: is what turns it into entertainment, which is how you
Speaker 2: end up getting stories like this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're they're competing, well, number one, they're competing
Speaker 3: with all of these other, you know, outlets, and it's
Speaker 3: not even just other news networks.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, really social media.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you know, I said a long time ago
Speaker 3: that radio television and they'll never lead in breaking news
Speaker 3: stories ever again, because it seems like everything breaks on
Speaker 3: social media. Even when you look at President Biden when
Speaker 3: he dropped out, he didn't do like a State of
Speaker 3: the Union. Yeah, he didn't do like some official press
Speaker 3: release to CNN.
Speaker 1: He just tweeted it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like like niggas, I'm out, like on Twitter. They
Speaker 3: like like that's crazy.
Speaker 2: They also used to like actually get mad at you
Speaker 2: if you did something like that, like if you didn't
Speaker 2: break it with one of them, because there used to
Speaker 2: be you know, like just in general broadcasting, there used
Speaker 2: to be like the Big Three, the Big four, and
Speaker 2: if you if you went to one of the other ones,
Speaker 2: they get mad at you.
Speaker 3: But they can't you're gonna get mad at Twitter. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you can't get mad at Twitter.
Speaker 1: Like there's nobody.
Speaker 3: Can you gonna get mad Twitter? It's not even a
Speaker 3: news a news platform. I mean it is, but it's
Speaker 3: not like one of the Big three. Like you said,
Speaker 3: there's nobody to get mad at. Only The only thing
Speaker 3: they can do is like yo, President Biden just tweeted
Speaker 3: he's out of the race. Whatever, we had planned for
Speaker 3: the next the rest of the day, it's over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean do you think then, okay, do
Speaker 2: you think that the DEI higher aspect of the attacks
Speaker 2: on Kamala like this is to me one of the
Speaker 2: biggest issues that Republicans are having right now in not
Speaker 2: knowing how to attack Kamala and now Tim Walls, is
Speaker 2: that it feels like Trump was very good at making
Speaker 2: everything a roast, and so now because that was what
Speaker 2: was winning elections and making elections close, it feels like
Speaker 2: they cannot seem to get out of that. Do you
Speaker 2: think that that level of laziness around kind of just
Speaker 2: being racist is going to hurt them in the long
Speaker 2: run or do you think it plays to a certain
Speaker 2: base that needs to hear that.
Speaker 3: I think the most interesting thing about having people like
Speaker 3: the Vice President Kamala Harris in this position, it's impossible
Speaker 3: for Donald Trump, our jd Vance or Damnity, any Republican
Speaker 3: to attack her without sounding racist and sexist, not.
Speaker 1: Like when Hillary.
Speaker 3: When Hillary was running, it was the same thing, but
Speaker 3: it was less because of the Clinton's history. Yeah, Clayton's legacy,
Speaker 3: so he had so many different things to point at.
Speaker 3: He can't really do that, you know, with with with
Speaker 3: the with the vice president, but that sounded like a
Speaker 3: crazy conspiracy theorist. Like I think about it, He's done
Speaker 3: all of these different you know, interviews, you know, whether
Speaker 3: it was the at the NABJ or whether it was
Speaker 3: with Aiden Ross, and the only thing he can keep
Speaker 3: saying is that she pretended to be Indian one minute,
Speaker 3: pretends to be black another.
Speaker 1: Minute, and that she's dumb. Yeah, he's not even attacking
Speaker 1: any policy. She was an age, she was in the Senate.
Speaker 3: He hasn't brought he hasn't brought up anything from that
Speaker 3: because there's really not there's really nothing there.
Speaker 2: And it also I think, you know, we'll we'll see
Speaker 2: when the actual election comes around. But it feels like
Speaker 2: most of the attacks on Kamala that they could bring
Speaker 2: up as a as a Republican campaign are things that
Speaker 2: would appeal to their own base.
Speaker 1: Like the prosecutor.
Speaker 4: She's a prosecutor, and so it's like she was tough
Speaker 4: on crime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And that's the narrative, the narrative she's tough
Speaker 1: on crime.
Speaker 3: And if you actually dig into her record, you can
Speaker 3: see that she had a lot of progressive policies as well.
Speaker 3: It's like it's nuanced, right, she's a prosecutor, Like she
Speaker 3: wasn't the most progressive prosecutor in the country, but she
Speaker 3: wasn't throwing people under the jail one hundred miles file either.
Speaker 2: Well, this is my thing with that though, because now
Speaker 2: this is like a this is a critique of I
Speaker 2: think a Democratic base is that, you know, one of
Speaker 2: the things that became an issue for her in the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty Democratic primary top cop. And it's like, I understand,
Speaker 2: I understand that there are a lot of Democrats that
Speaker 2: don't like the idea of cops, or don't like cops
Speaker 2: or what, but you do.
Speaker 1: Like the law.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who you gonna call when somebody breaks into your house? Ghostbusters? No,
Speaker 3: you're dialing nine one one.
Speaker 2: Even past that though, even past just the regular instances
Speaker 2: of dealing with the police in a community. What Democrat
Speaker 2: didn't sell right when Donald Trump wasn't dieted when he
Speaker 2: had to take his mugshot when he was found guilty.
Speaker 2: That's what the legal system does. So it's like, I
Speaker 2: understand that their aspects of lego system that are incredibly fractured,
Speaker 2: flawed and just straight up and just But then to
Speaker 2: put that on anybody who is a part of the
Speaker 2: system as a whole, no matter what they're doing, is
Speaker 2: like such a flawed logic that we don't need to
Speaker 2: do to ourselves.
Speaker 1: Actually I agree with you to a certain extent.
Speaker 3: But Donald Trump getting arrested actually pissed off more people, right, Like,
Speaker 3: if you already hated law enforcement, you probably ended up
Speaker 3: hating him more because he didn't get a mug shot
Speaker 3: at first in a lot of those cases, right, he
Speaker 3: didn't get put in handcuffs. We didn't see him have
Speaker 3: to do that per walk, right, So it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: so they do treat people differently. We literally saw a
Speaker 3: white privilege or presidential privilege, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 3: We saw it on full display. But it makes you
Speaker 3: dislike law enforcement even more because we know that y'all
Speaker 3: treating some yea than y'all would do us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when you don't really understand the reasoning.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: One of the jokes that we made around here before
Speaker 2: the actual indictments and stuff like that is like, well,
Speaker 2: if he has to get like fingerprinted and has to
Speaker 2: get his mugshot taken, and let's say he has to
Speaker 2: post a bond, does the Secret Service have to sit
Speaker 2: in there with him? And it didn't come to any
Speaker 2: of that, And I just I don't know. I think
Speaker 2: that there are lines of attack that I'm almost waiting
Speaker 2: for the Republicans to bring up that have to do
Speaker 2: with policy, But it does feel like they're so genuinely
Speaker 2: stuck in her being a black woman and being of
Speaker 2: Indian descent of all these things that are like not
Speaker 2: material to whether or not she can do the job
Speaker 2: because of what you said.
Speaker 3: Literally, the things that the left right are progressives get
Speaker 3: upset about when it comes to the vice president, are
Speaker 3: even black people. The fact that she was a prosecutor,
Speaker 3: top cop who who allegedly locked up all these black
Speaker 3: men for weed, which isn't which isn't true.
Speaker 1: Right, if you're on the right, you can't attack her
Speaker 1: for that because you love cops.
Speaker 3: You love to see people prosecuted, and you love to
Speaker 3: see negroes getting locked up. So the only thing you
Speaker 3: can do is talk about her rate like a childless
Speaker 3: cat lady. She ain't got no kids, which also is
Speaker 3: a trip up because verry, because then she's been you know,
Speaker 3: co parenting with her husband.
Speaker 2: The kids that he had from a former marriage and everything.
Speaker 2: So now anyone who is a step parent of any
Speaker 2: of any capacity is looking at jade Van saying stuff
Speaker 2: like that, or if Trump saying stuff like that, and
Speaker 2: they're like, does he mean me?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And if you're a woman, you know you're listening to them,
Speaker 3: and you're like, you don't know why we don't want
Speaker 3: to have kids. Maybe physically we're not capable, right, Maybe
Speaker 3: professionally I chose not to have them. Maybe I've had
Speaker 3: a couple of abortions in my life that I don't
Speaker 3: want to think about. So now I'm triggering. You done
Speaker 3: trigger me on all levels by just calling me a
Speaker 3: childless catlet and not even knowing what my circumstances.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also treating it like a like a really
Speaker 2: small slipper of the of the general like Electra as
Speaker 2: a whole. What it's like, the amount of people who
Speaker 2: are deciding to not have kids is so substantial, and
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm I'm blown away by it because
Speaker 2: you would think that with all the trolling and with
Speaker 2: all of the like WrestleMania aspects of running a campaign,
Speaker 2: that they would have been like chomping at the bit
Speaker 2: to get whoever, But they really did plan to just
Speaker 2: keep the same line for Biden.
Speaker 4: And that's it.
Speaker 1: I saw it.
Speaker 3: I saw Trump put on his truth social account how
Speaker 3: he wants he basically wants Biden to come back. It
Speaker 3: was unconstitutional how they removed him, and so he predicts
Speaker 3: that Biden is going to come back at the DNC
Speaker 3: convention and say no, I'm still I'm.
Speaker 4: Like what that's wild?
Speaker 2: And then also, I mean, these these are also sort
Speaker 2: of lines that I always found interesting that a lot
Speaker 2: of the the Republican narrative around Biden dropping out and
Speaker 2: then Kamala being the you know, presumptive nominee and everything
Speaker 2: they're telling it is that Biden was the hard line nominee.
Speaker 2: There was nothing that anybody could do about it. And
Speaker 2: so then them bringing Kamala sort of userps democracy or
Speaker 2: something like that. But you were already okay with Kama
Speaker 2: being president, if you're okay with her being vice president
Speaker 2: because we have an old president.
Speaker 3: Yes, and that's what Republicans are. Another thing that they're
Speaker 3: getting wrong, and maybe Democrats aren't doing a good enough
Speaker 3: job explaining it.
Speaker 1: Maybe if these news outlets.
Speaker 3: Were reporting actual news and not arguing about whether Kamala
Speaker 3: is black, they could explain it better. She was the
Speaker 3: vice president. He was a president that had to step down. Well, actually,
Speaker 3: maybe it's President Biden's fault because he had he didn't
Speaker 3: tell us why he stepped down. He should have maybe
Speaker 3: said I'm not physically capable of doing the job anymore,
Speaker 3: like I'm old, I'm sick, I cannot I can't do
Speaker 3: another four years. Because if he does it like that,
Speaker 3: then the passing of the torch, you know, there's nothing
Speaker 3: Republicans can really say, like they make it seem like
Speaker 3: it was some type of coup from the Democrats and
Speaker 3: they pushed Joe Biden out.
Speaker 2: I think what happened there is that, And I wish
Speaker 2: I wasn't being the cynical, but I think that if
Speaker 2: he was very plain in his in his language of
Speaker 2: why he was doing it, outside of the very sort
Speaker 2: of big ideas of passing the baton moving on to
Speaker 2: the next generation sort of thing, I think you immediately
Speaker 2: get like, whatever it is a twenty fifth amendment calls
Speaker 2: really yeah, because they already said that basically where they
Speaker 2: were like, if he's not fit to run, how is
Speaker 2: he fit to they?
Speaker 4: I mean they already said that.
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. They would have been asking
Speaker 1: him to drop out.
Speaker 2: Now they ask him to step down from the president,
Speaker 2: which would also be weird because it would just make
Speaker 2: Kamala president.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's like, I think everybody's wires are crossed because
Speaker 2: this whole election cycle has been so insane and like unprecedented.
Speaker 1: Since twenty sixteen. Well, let me let me take that back.
Speaker 3: We always say since twenty sixteen, No, since two thousand
Speaker 3: and eight, since they elected a black man as president
Speaker 3: of the United States of America, everything has been upside down.
Speaker 2: I do feel like, Okay, to your point, Obama wins,
Speaker 2: and then they're just there are people in this country
Speaker 2: that are like never again, no matter what it takes.
Speaker 2: I think if Kamala wins the president after that has
Speaker 2: got to be like a dead lizard or something like.
Speaker 2: There's gonna have to be because almost like when you
Speaker 2: talk about jux'spositions, it's like there's Obama and then there's Trump,
Speaker 2: and then it's very clear the subtext of Trump is
Speaker 2: a response to Obama, which is mind blowing to me.
Speaker 3: Step in one too, just because that person didn't win.
Speaker 3: But you think eight years of President Obama and then
Speaker 3: the next person in line was going to.
Speaker 1: Be a woman.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, the right was losing a mine. They
Speaker 3: was like, oh, hell no, where is the executive producer,
Speaker 3: a celebrity apprentice. We need somebody that's willing to come
Speaker 3: in here and be the most racist, you know, wild
Speaker 3: far right conservative we've ever seen. Let's just see if
Speaker 3: it works before I know, in my mind, I see
Speaker 3: him thinking, like, before we lose.
Speaker 1: Our country, let's just throw this one last hell Mary, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and in what he caught it?
Speaker 4: You know what this is?
Speaker 2: This is also what's so wild to me about that
Speaker 2: line of thinking is that you know, I was, I was,
Speaker 2: uh talking to friends before we recorded. So you have
Speaker 2: Obama win, and then you have policies through Obama that
Speaker 2: actually improve people's lives in a way that is not
Speaker 2: necessarily the most glamorous, but in a way that is substantial.
Speaker 3: Right, No, it is Obamacare is glamorous. To be able
Speaker 3: to go to the doctor and you don't be able
Speaker 3: to afford healthcare is be very glamorous.
Speaker 4: That's okay, That's that's fair.
Speaker 2: I guess what I mean by glamorous is what every
Speaker 2: politician no matter, no matter which way you lean, Republicans, Democrat,
Speaker 2: what every politician is up against in America at any
Speaker 2: given time is the fact that America sells you the
Speaker 2: idea that you can become rich. And it is very
Speaker 2: hard for any politician, any lawmaker, to circumvent the fact
Speaker 2: that we're not all going to become rich. And so
Speaker 2: after a while, no matter when you become disillusion, you
Speaker 2: might become disillusion in the era of this guy this
Speaker 2: woman being president, right, and so now it's their fault
Speaker 2: that you're not rich, when actually what's happening is you
Speaker 2: have a very specific type of capitalism.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So, yes, Biden's the president, but Biden isn't actually in
Speaker 2: charge of the shrink flation that Lays decides to do
Speaker 2: in their potato chips. Biden can't unless he passes some
Speaker 2: sweeping law that guarantee you it would be fought, that
Speaker 2: tells them how many chips they.
Speaker 4: Have to put in the bag.
Speaker 2: It's not Biden's fault that your paycheck buys you chips
Speaker 2: that have less in bag than before.
Speaker 3: Like inflation is coming down now, but you know, these
Speaker 3: greedy ass capitalist corporations are keeping the prices.
Speaker 2: Up and So my thing is you look at something
Speaker 2: like that where Obama is improving the lives of citizens,
Speaker 2: whether it's through healthcare, whether it's through keeping credit card
Speaker 2: companies at Bay from like it just insane greedy fees
Speaker 2: or predatory behavior. But then you have Obama and maybe
Speaker 2: you like them, maybe you don't. But I think that
Speaker 2: what a lot of people missed is that Obama improved
Speaker 2: their lives to the point where they actually felt like
Speaker 2: it was fun to take a gamble on Trump.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: If you are diabetic, right, and insulin is four hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars a month, right, and you work at McDonald's, right,
Speaker 2: someone making campaign promises that are in any way involved
Speaker 2: with healthcare that can improve your life aren't just like
Speaker 2: a little game to you. This is like life and death.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: But if everything's going pretty well and there's a guy
Speaker 2: that's like, I think I could make you you, like
Speaker 2: another fifty K a year or whatever, you're like, ah.
Speaker 3: Are to your point a guy that says, here's twelve
Speaker 3: hundred dollars stimulus checks. You know a guy that a
Speaker 3: guy that's like, yo, he wasn't the guy, but you know,
Speaker 3: to your point, people. They'll forget what you did, they'll
Speaker 3: forget what you said, but they'll never forget how you
Speaker 3: made them feel. So that's why so many people reminisce
Speaker 3: about the Trump era. Yeah, because of those PPP loans
Speaker 3: and because of those stimulus checks, but they don't put
Speaker 3: everything in context.
Speaker 1: Millions of people had to die, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying, because of the way that that
Speaker 3: same president mishandled this pandemic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be
Speaker 4: right back. I guess I'm curious.
Speaker 2: Then about your opinion on This is going to be
Speaker 2: a bit of a like wrap around question, But basically,
Speaker 2: you have Kammle's kickoff of her campaign, and within that
Speaker 2: campaign you have support from less than conventional advocates for Kamala, Right,
Speaker 2: So you have you have Quavo, Megan Stallion, all all
Speaker 2: these different people who are celebrities in their own right
Speaker 2: or influential in their own spaces coming out for common
Speaker 2: the I guess the dual question that I have is one,
Speaker 2: do you think that any amount of support is positive?
Speaker 2: And to how would you sort of rate her start
Speaker 2: to her campaign so far?
Speaker 3: I think she's for the most part she's been running
Speaker 3: a very good campaign. I think the problem with a
Speaker 3: lot of those campaigns, especially when you know the candidate
Speaker 3: is black, they try to make them look cool, right.
Speaker 3: They think they think being cool is going to you know,
Speaker 3: encourage young people to vote. It is going to encourage
Speaker 3: you know, black people of a certain age to vote.
Speaker 3: And it's just like, No, she's a fifty nine year old,
Speaker 3: you know, Indian black woman who is very intelligent, who
Speaker 3: went to Howard, who's an aka, who has all of
Speaker 3: his history, and the Toorney General as the Senate.
Speaker 1: Just let her be I like seeing.
Speaker 3: You know, the Meganistings and the Quabos are part of
Speaker 3: the process. But how about elevate them? And what I
Speaker 3: mean what I say when I elevate them For me,
Speaker 3: they elevated Quabo and what I mean by that is
Speaker 3: Kamonland Quabo have sat down and had conversations about gun
Speaker 3: violence before. So to have Quabo come out in Atlanta
Speaker 3: and speak, you know, to gun violence because of you
Speaker 3: know how we lost take off God Bless the dead.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 3: What they should have done with Megan instead of having
Speaker 3: her perform, just have her come out and speak to
Speaker 3: women being in control of their bodies. Speak to women,
Speaker 3: you know, losing their reproductive rights because of you know,
Speaker 3: of the GOP and the decisions that the Supreme Court made,
Speaker 3: Like write her something to talk about, like she's the
Speaker 3: woman that wrote body YadA YadA, YadA YadA, And if
Speaker 3: we're trying to protect you know, women's rights and you
Speaker 3: know we want women to have control of their bodies,
Speaker 3: let her come speak to that. It's just it's just
Speaker 3: the performance and the ass shaken that threw everybody off
Speaker 3: because I do believe, yeah I wouldn't. That's not something
Speaker 3: I want to see that Like at for Kamala Harris,
Speaker 3: because she is the first black woman you know, and
Speaker 3: you already see how they're they're you already see what
Speaker 3: they're doing to her, Like you can go on Instagram
Speaker 3: right now and it'll be all these AI memes of
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris. You know, uh, head on, delicious body, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I I've seen pictures of Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3: You know, they got her in AI, got her in bikinis,
Speaker 3: leaning over desk, like you already know how they're treating her.
Speaker 3: So let's let let's just not do that for her.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't necessarily care, you know, either way
Speaker 3: about Megan the stallion, you know, being out there dancing.
Speaker 3: I don't think that that hurt as much as social
Speaker 3: media tried to make it seem like it did. But
Speaker 3: I would I would have wanted the Harris campaign to
Speaker 3: elevate Megan.
Speaker 1: Megan's a small woman.
Speaker 3: Megan went to college, like you know, let Megan come
Speaker 3: out there and like I said, speak to you know,
Speaker 3: women being in control of their bodies and speak the
Speaker 3: you know, women's reproductive rights.
Speaker 1: That's what I would have did.
Speaker 2: So the reason that I ask about do you think
Speaker 2: any amount of support is positive is because I've noticed
Speaker 2: a thing now with like I said, you know, a
Speaker 2: Trump rally or a Trump support feels very like wrestling energy.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know if you watch wrestling when you
Speaker 2: were little, but it's the same, it's the same general vibe.
Speaker 4: And what I've noticed worked. Yes, yes, yes, I didn't.
Speaker 3: Even realize hug Hogan was talking about getting closing the borders.
Speaker 3: I didn't even realize he was talking about shipping Mexicans back.
Speaker 3: I just got caught up in what are you going
Speaker 3: to do? Because that's a trigger for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my kid, like I was my in.
Speaker 3: A child is like yeah, howk Yeah, what are you
Speaker 3: going to do when Trump and man you're like.
Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. Yeah, No that's not I didn't
Speaker 1: know we were going there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I guess My thing is that no matter how obscure silly,
Speaker 2: actually like terrifying, the things that the people come out
Speaker 2: and say, or who the people are that support Trump,
Speaker 2: it's always seems to be a sort of boost and
Speaker 2: a leveling up for him, Whereas I think a lot
Speaker 2: of the support that and you have this with several
Speaker 2: Democratic campaigns. But do you do you think that that
Speaker 2: level support almost seeming like it's a like it's a negative,
Speaker 2: is an invention by the Democrats unto themselves because you
Speaker 2: know that like if someone's gonna be racist, they're gonna
Speaker 2: be racist. But do you think that playing up the
Speaker 2: like no, we have to get the people playing defense
Speaker 2: is what's hurting or do you think that the support
Speaker 2: actually hurts?
Speaker 4: Does that make sense what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying.
Speaker 3: I think the left just stands on a moral high
Speaker 3: ground that's not sustainable. Like the left has all of
Speaker 3: these purity tests that it's impossible for any human in
Speaker 3: the past. Meanwhile, Republicans are like effet, Like literally you
Speaker 3: saw your you saw on social media people upset. You
Speaker 3: know that making the stallion was shaking her ass. But
Speaker 3: who are those people that were upset?
Speaker 1: Well, nobody.
Speaker 3: I didn't see nobody on the well, people on the
Speaker 3: right were making what we're saying, things like she needs
Speaker 3: rappers to get a crowd, but they aren't necessarily, you know,
Speaker 3: doing this respectability politics thing that you see a lot
Speaker 3: of people on the left do.
Speaker 1: And I do think that.
Speaker 3: I think when you're running a presidential campaign, I look
Speaker 3: at it as promoting the party.
Speaker 1: And I used to promote parties back in the day.
Speaker 3: And when you promote parties, I would have a bunch
Speaker 3: of flyers, and I would put flyers everywhere.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't just go target my audience with the flyers.
Speaker 3: I would actually go places with those flyers that my
Speaker 3: audience may not necessarily have been. Why, Because let's just say,
Speaker 3: let's just say my target audience is people at the mall,
Speaker 3: but across the street from that mall is a church
Speaker 3: or are a synagogue. I'm serious. I would go put
Speaker 3: the flyers at the church. I'm gonna put the flyers
Speaker 3: at the synagogue. Why because even if that person doesn't
Speaker 3: know who the hell I am or who the hell
Speaker 3: this promotional company is, they're gonna pick that flyer up
Speaker 3: and say, well, who the fuck is Concrete Guerrilla Entertainment?
Speaker 3: And why do they have they thrown all these flyers
Speaker 3: around and they're having a party on such and such date.
Speaker 1: So people are just talking, and that's really what you want.
Speaker 3: You just want as many people talking about something as possible,
Speaker 3: and you just hope that you.
Speaker 1: Get the word out to as many people as possible.
Speaker 3: If you get it to a million people, if one
Speaker 3: hundred thousand people show up, great, And that's how I
Speaker 3: look at politics. If you're running for the president, you
Speaker 3: should sit in front of as many people as possible.
Speaker 1: You should have as many interviews as possible.
Speaker 3: You should go meet people where they are and talk
Speaker 3: to as many different audiences as possible. And let's just
Speaker 3: say you talk to If you just say you talk
Speaker 3: to ten million people during an election cycle, you know,
Speaker 3: if two or three million of them come.
Speaker 1: Out to vote for you, that's great.
Speaker 3: So I have no problem with you know, being in
Speaker 3: front of as many diverse audiences as possible. I think
Speaker 3: all politicians should meet people where they are, because you
Speaker 3: never know who a potential voter is.
Speaker 2: So you mentioned meeting people where they are. I want
Speaker 2: to get a sense from you, then of we get
Speaker 2: out of the sort of excitement, surprise and honeymoon of
Speaker 2: Kamma being in the race and everything, and it gets
Speaker 2: closer and closer than November, and it really is now
Speaker 2: Common's policies versus Trump's policies. What do you think some
Speaker 2: of the things that Kamma can do to win over
Speaker 2: any swing voters.
Speaker 1: I don't even think that we're in the honeymoon phase.
Speaker 3: The honeymoon phase comes after she gets selected, right I
Speaker 3: think right now we're just in a phase of, oh shoot,
Speaker 3: I'm actually energized. A lot of us haven't felt like
Speaker 3: this since two thousand and eight. A lot of us
Speaker 3: haven't felt like this since twenty twelve. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: I can't sit here and say Hillary bought energy. Hillary
Speaker 3: felt like establishment institutional politician that President Obama is saying, Hey,
Speaker 3: this is who we want you to vote for more
Speaker 3: than qualified. But I can't sit here and say she
Speaker 3: energized people. The Vice president has energized people, and we
Speaker 3: haven't had any energy since twenty sixteen. I didn't vote
Speaker 3: for President Biden in twenty twenty. I voted for the
Speaker 3: Vice president, Kamala Harris. I'm on record saying that, like
Speaker 3: it wasn't until she got on the ticket to where
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, I feel comfortable, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, voting for the person who created the nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety four crime.
Speaker 1: But like that's literally what my mentality was.
Speaker 3: But I think what we're feeling now is just the
Speaker 3: energy that we haven't felt before. And I don't think
Speaker 3: this goes away. I think that this is going to
Speaker 3: go up until election day. Don't get me wrong. There's
Speaker 3: gonna be upstairs, gonna be downs. I mean, she still
Speaker 3: hasn't sat down and you know, a did an interview
Speaker 3: with anybody yet, right, She still hasn't had an official
Speaker 3: press conference yet, so you never know how those things
Speaker 3: can go. I'm sure that she'll say something in an
Speaker 3: interview that people aren't gonna like, they're gonna pick apart,
Speaker 3: but that's still our candidate.
Speaker 1: Yea, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think what you're feeling right now is energy, and
Speaker 3: I think what she needed to do is just keep
Speaker 3: doing She's what she's doing, right, Like you just said,
Speaker 3: it's a policy thing at this point, like this is
Speaker 3: my issues, this is my agenda.
Speaker 1: That's another thing she hasn't done yet either. See.
Speaker 3: I can speak to some of the things that the
Speaker 3: vice president has done because I was on the campaign
Speaker 3: trail with her in twenty twenty. I was doing my
Speaker 3: research to her, you know, when she was an attorney
Speaker 3: general in California. I know about things like the back
Speaker 3: on Track program, you know, I know what her economic
Speaker 3: plans are. Even as vice president. I paid attention when
Speaker 3: she gave two hundred and eighty five million dollars, you know,
Speaker 3: to mental health initiatives to help increase the amount of
Speaker 3: mental health professionals. Right, because I'm a mental health advocac
Speaker 3: so I pay attention to stuff like that. But for
Speaker 3: people who don't know her, when they go to her website,
Speaker 3: she doesn't have a plan for what she wants to
Speaker 3: do for the next four years.
Speaker 1: Where is that plan?
Speaker 3: But I just think she just needs to keep telling
Speaker 3: people what she planned to do. I think folks will
Speaker 3: get to know her later.
Speaker 2: Okay, So then do you think that Trump's gonna win
Speaker 2: over some of those swing voters or do you know
Speaker 2: because I My only reason that I asked the question
Speaker 2: is because it felt like he was riding high off
Speaker 2: of Biden. And then it feels like ever since, there's
Speaker 2: been a disconnect. It's like when you watch a stand
Speaker 2: up right, and because I'm you know, I work at
Speaker 2: the show, I've watched Trump rallies. I've watched Trump like
Speaker 2: general speeches at sea pack stuff like that, and it
Speaker 2: always felt like he was connected, even when he was
Speaker 2: being weird or even when he was going off script
Speaker 2: and everything, it felt like he was connecting with the
Speaker 2: sort of moment that he was having. Yeah, and I
Speaker 2: feel like more often than not every time I see
Speaker 2: him now, maybe it's because he's reaching out to social
Speaker 2: socials more than ever. So he's going to streamers, he's
Speaker 2: going to YouTubers and stuff, and maybe that's not.
Speaker 4: Exactly his wheelhouse.
Speaker 2: That's smart, it is smart, but I guess I'm I'm
Speaker 2: like you saw the Aiden Ross thing and everything, It's like,
Speaker 2: I'm smart. It felt like a bad move to me
Speaker 2: because it felt more awkward throughout than it did, like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is dude is putting himself in front of new people.
Speaker 2: It's like if you're putting yourself in front of new
Speaker 2: people and it's not on the best foot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that audience loved it because you know Aiden Ross,
Speaker 3: he's got skin in that game already. Like Aiden Ross
Speaker 3: had Nick Fuentez on his podcast before, Like I've heard,
Speaker 3: you know, Aiden Ross speak.
Speaker 1: Highly of Trump before.
Speaker 3: So even the way that it was set up, like
Speaker 3: Trump walks in many men's playing. All the guys in
Speaker 3: the room are dressed like Trump with the red tie.
Speaker 3: They're all wearing Maga hats. And it wasn't like Aiden
Speaker 3: was asking bad questions, right, So let's just say Aiden Ross,
Speaker 3: who is a very influential person, whether you like it
Speaker 3: or not. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think at one point he had like four hundred
Speaker 3: thousand and a half a million people watching the scream.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the highest number it got to,
Speaker 3: but I know when it first started it had like
Speaker 3: four hundred thousand, five hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 3: If fifty thousand of those people decided to go out
Speaker 3: there and register the vote and vote for Trump, that's
Speaker 3: a win.
Speaker 1: I see, Liken't I don't have a problem.
Speaker 3: And I think his Aiden's demo was like thirteen to
Speaker 3: twenty four there's a new voter turning eighteen every day. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so he went and sat in front of a bunch
Speaker 3: of young, impressionable people who may just feel like, you
Speaker 3: know what, I like that guy. He's sitting there kicking
Speaker 3: it with my dude Aiden. He's talking about young thug.
Speaker 3: You know, he's saying how we need to close the
Speaker 3: borders put more money in our pocket. I can see
Speaker 3: how that could be intriguing to somebody who really isn't
Speaker 3: looking under the hood.
Speaker 4: I see, you know.
Speaker 2: So this is something I think about a lot when
Speaker 2: I talk to about or two other black people with
Speaker 2: it is there are black people who voted for Trump
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: I know someone who got some friends who did who do.
Speaker 2: Not want to vote for him again. And there is
Speaker 2: a sense, though, how do you find the sort of
Speaker 2: advice towards reconciliation in that way, because then, and there
Speaker 2: are some black people now who vote for Hillary then
Speaker 2: vote for Biden and or voting for Kamala that just
Speaker 2: are like, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 1: How could you ever? Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And I think there are people out there that are like, look,
Speaker 2: I am doing well, I'm maybe rich. I think this
Speaker 2: is the person that's going to keep me rich. I'm
Speaker 2: voting this way, right, And so if someone's whole motivator
Speaker 2: is money in a sense, then I'm not saying fault
Speaker 2: as in I would do the same thing. But I
Speaker 2: get why they they vote the way they do because
Speaker 2: they're very clear about their intentions.
Speaker 3: And those are people, to me who have not looked
Speaker 3: under the hood, because being black and rich in a
Speaker 3: country that's under authoritarian rule is not gonna fait well
Speaker 3: for you. It's really just that simple. Being black enrich
Speaker 3: in a country that's under authoritarian rule is not gonna.
Speaker 1: Fait well for you.
Speaker 3: And I don't know any other way to explain it
Speaker 3: to people other than to tell them to ask at
Speaker 3: GBT or Google what is authoritarian rule? And then you
Speaker 3: might understand, Like you know, when you why would you
Speaker 3: want to live in a country where you have a
Speaker 3: man saying he wants to give police total immunity, federal immunity.
Speaker 1: What are we doing, like, black man, black woman, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? Like that alone?
Speaker 3: But as much as we talked about it earlier in
Speaker 3: the conversation, but as much as we like to scream
Speaker 3: after police and that's what you that's what you want.
Speaker 1: Like, how you think that's gonna fare for you in
Speaker 1: this society?
Speaker 3: Like and in me is a media personality, you as
Speaker 3: a comedian, as a as a TV personality, Like this
Speaker 3: guy already says he's going to attack the press. He
Speaker 3: already said it's gonna be consequences and repercussions for people
Speaker 3: who you know, have things to say about him.
Speaker 1: He sued.
Speaker 3: Bill Maher threatened to sue Lord Michaels like everything that Donald.
Speaker 1: Trump, uh, you know, wants to do, he says out loud. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, we all just twiddle our thumbs and go
Speaker 1: on about our way like like it's just talk.
Speaker 4: And so do you think, I mean, what do you say?
Speaker 2: I'm not asking you to speak for anyone right now,
Speaker 2: but I guess, like, what do you say to those
Speaker 2: friends who may be voted for him the first time
Speaker 2: that either don't want to vote for him again or
Speaker 2: maybe are voting for him again, Like what where do
Speaker 2: you find their heads are at?
Speaker 3: I think right now, at least, I'm just speaking from
Speaker 3: some of the people that I know, they really are
Speaker 3: just fed up with government period, and they're still caught
Speaker 3: up in that whole drain the swamp thing, like they
Speaker 3: still look at him as an outsider who's here to
Speaker 3: shake up government.
Speaker 1: And there is, you know, there is something to I'm
Speaker 1: not saying. This is the reason.
Speaker 3: There is something to a person that the media is
Speaker 3: always persecuting, right, Like there is something to watching the media.
Speaker 3: Not even want to say persecuting, because a lot of
Speaker 3: times the media is just telling the truth about him.
Speaker 3: Most of the times the media tell they did, they're
Speaker 3: saying what he did. So when you there are people
Speaker 3: out here who just root for the bad guy, like
Speaker 3: that's what this is. American just ain't just a black thing.
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm with him.
Speaker 1: America roots for the bad guy.
Speaker 3: No, like since day one, since cops and robbers, cowboys
Speaker 3: and Indians like the people robbing the train, the stage coaches.
Speaker 1: Like they root for the bad guy. And I think
Speaker 1: some people are just caught up and rooting for the.
Speaker 2: Bad guy, gotcha. Yeah, I mean I do think that
Speaker 2: there's there are some logic loops that don't close.
Speaker 1: For the logic.
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's why, No, that's fair, that's why.
Speaker 3: Like we're literally sitting here trying to make h you know,
Speaker 3: logic out of the elogical. My thing is those are
Speaker 3: the times where I just have to step back and
Speaker 3: just realize that some people are just looking at it
Speaker 3: as politics, even though if you are really paying attention,
Speaker 3: you know how high the stakes are. But the Democrats
Speaker 3: are blame for a lot of that because the Democrats
Speaker 3: demonize Republicans all the time like that. I can't think
Speaker 3: of one Republican candidate in my lifetime who hasn't been demonized.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe John McCain. John McCain might have been the
Speaker 3: only one who they didn't like demonize.
Speaker 2: I do think that the threat to democracy thing is
Speaker 2: something that has been sort of like on the table
Speaker 2: and mentioned in every election for you know what feels like,
Speaker 2: for what feels like the past three and eventually even
Speaker 2: if something is true, right, it's like when a country's
Speaker 2: at war, right, When a country's at war, war is terrifying, right.
Speaker 2: But when you talk to people who live through war,
Speaker 2: they're like, weirdly chill about it to a certain degree.
Speaker 2: They obviously have horror stories and they've obviously been traumatized.
Speaker 2: I'm not like trivializing war. I'm saying, like, when you
Speaker 2: talk to these people who are from a place that's
Speaker 2: either war torn or was going through war when they
Speaker 2: were younger, and they're like, yeah, but after a while,
Speaker 2: you get you go through your day. And that's how
Speaker 2: I feel about the threat to democracy line, where it's like, look,
Speaker 2: I genuinely believe that Trump wants to do things, and
Speaker 2: as you say, has said out loud, he plans to
Speaker 2: do things if he wins that are not democratic. Right,
Speaker 2: So the threat to democracy thing is real.
Speaker 1: He already led an attempted to cool with his country. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we watched it.
Speaker 3: It's so many things that he's done that we don't
Speaker 3: pay it. He led an attempted coup of this country.
Speaker 3: He literally said we should suspend spends the constitution to
Speaker 3: overthrow the results of an election.
Speaker 2: Yeah, said this, But I think that my thing is
Speaker 2: the same way. When someone's living through sort of war
Speaker 2: torn conditions and eventually they're like, well, I have to eat,
Speaker 2: I have to find some sort of work to provide
Speaker 2: for my family. You have to quote unquote get on
Speaker 2: with your life. I think that maybe that that is
Speaker 2: the only personal failing is the wrong word because it
Speaker 2: makes it seem final. But one of the things that
Speaker 2: I think Democrats could do better is appeal to that
Speaker 2: notion of threat to democracy without making it seem like
Speaker 2: it's the only thing that they need to say.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they can't just speak. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 3: They're always trying to make their base vote out of fee,
Speaker 3: and right now people are like, I'm tired of voting
Speaker 3: out of fear. You got to give me an actual,
Speaker 3: real reason to vote. People want tangible things, so on top,
Speaker 3: I think you got to do two things right. For
Speaker 3: the people who understand why this guy is a threat
Speaker 3: to democracy, lay that out for him. For the people
Speaker 3: who want tangibles, lay that out for him too, because
Speaker 3: the reality is all of them. At some point, it'll
Speaker 3: be an intersectionality of it all. Yes, you know and so,
Speaker 3: but I don't know if they do a good enough
Speaker 3: job of really doing either, or like even now with
Speaker 3: this whole just labeling Trump and JD Vance weird, you're understating,
Speaker 3: you're understating the threat.
Speaker 2: It's definitely understanding the threat. It is like super accurate.
Speaker 2: Though they're just things that Trump has said mid rally,
Speaker 2: Like he'll be talking about immigration and then he's talking
Speaker 2: about sharks, and I'm like, I don't know where we
Speaker 2: are anymore.
Speaker 3: I'm with that, But yes, the shark thing is weird y,
Speaker 3: Project twenty twenty five is more than weird.
Speaker 4: No, that's fair.
Speaker 3: Putting three three conservative judges that he appointed on the
Speaker 3: Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: That got rid of that abolished Roe v.
Speaker 3: Wade, that you know, made it, made given presidential immunity,
Speaker 3: the way he can commit crimes, that made it legal
Speaker 3: for elected officials to take brides, that's more than weird.
Speaker 2: But do you think I guess this is my thing,
Speaker 2: and this is my general question to you there is
Speaker 2: that do you think that the American public as a
Speaker 2: whole can handle more than one piece of messaging at
Speaker 2: a time, Because I think that both things are things
Speaker 2: that I would worry about. So Project twenty twenty five
Speaker 2: worries me not as much, but sort of on the
Speaker 2: level with wait, is this guy even here right now?
Speaker 1: Real court concerns me more than Project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think that, like, maybe what we're having
Speaker 2: here is not just a sort of oh, the Democrats
Speaker 2: could do better messaging on what the threats are or
Speaker 2: what the benefits are of electing a Democrat. I do
Speaker 2: think that we may have a general problem with us
Speaker 2: as an electing body that we can't seem to hold
Speaker 2: on to more than one thing for more than a
Speaker 2: certain amount of time.
Speaker 3: I agree with you, And what I would say to
Speaker 3: that is, when you're a presidential candidate, you can't look
Speaker 3: at the American people as just a monolithic thing. Because
Speaker 3: one thing that I think Trump does good and I
Speaker 3: want the Democrats to start doing, is you do have
Speaker 3: to say a whole bunch of things, because when you
Speaker 3: say a whole bunch of things, you're different things are
Speaker 3: hitting with different people. Like you just said, Project twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five may not hit with you, right, but the
Speaker 3: Supreme Court stuff might right, police community might hit with you,
Speaker 3: but you know something else he did may not.
Speaker 1: So it's just like you gotta put everything out there.
Speaker 3: You got to put everything on the table and just
Speaker 3: let people what resonates with them, like what really triggers them,
Speaker 3: what hits them to say, Oh no, we got to
Speaker 3: make sure this dude don't ever get back in the
Speaker 3: White House.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll be back right after this.
Speaker 2: Now, do you think then, because I because I do
Speaker 2: agree with what you're saying about messaging and about how
Speaker 2: I think it's important, especially with the energy because the
Speaker 2: energy is new. We haven't had it for a while,
Speaker 2: and I think with that energy now it can be
Speaker 2: about here's what I'm gonna do, and here are my
Speaker 2: sets of policies. But do you think that, because of
Speaker 2: the state that we're in, opposing Republican policies has been
Speaker 2: a platform or do you think that's still not good
Speaker 2: enough because because to a certain degree, I agree with
Speaker 2: you that so much of voting, it feels like for
Speaker 2: the past however long has really been about keeping Republicans out,
Speaker 2: more so than even bringing Biden in or anything. But
Speaker 2: when I I guess that's my general question is like, Okay,
Speaker 2: the Republicans want to do all these things.
Speaker 4: I don't want any of those things. Is that enough
Speaker 4: of a platform for a candidate?
Speaker 3: No, you still have to tell, you know, those individuals
Speaker 3: what you plan to do for them. Like you know,
Speaker 3: if you if you and your girl are going out
Speaker 3: and you know there's one restaurant and she's like, I
Speaker 3: don't like that restaurant. That restaurant not for me, and
Speaker 3: you're like, yeah, it's not for me neither. She's still hungry. Sure, sure,
Speaker 3: you still got to go somewhere. You know what I'm
Speaker 3: saying you got to put some other options on the table.
Speaker 3: You gotta and if there is another option, right, you
Speaker 3: got to be like, well, we should go here, and
Speaker 3: and here's the reason why not just because you're hungry.
Speaker 3: You're gonna want to go here, because the fried pickles
Speaker 3: are amazing. They got the greatest desserts. Like, you gotta
Speaker 3: lay it out as to why you should go there.
Speaker 3: Whenever you ask about anything in life, restaurants, vacation places.
Speaker 1: And you're asking, so what's there? Sure?
Speaker 3: Sure, and they gotta tell you what's there. So that's
Speaker 3: what Democrats have to start doing. We're here, yeah, but
Speaker 3: this is our menu.
Speaker 2: So I also want to get your thoughts on this
Speaker 2: because it's really something that we struggle with after every election.
Speaker 2: You know, I've said this before. People that know me
Speaker 2: will probably get sick of me saying this. But any
Speaker 2: campaign is the sort of sexting phase of the relationship
Speaker 2: you're having with your candidate. Right Ooh, I'm gonna come
Speaker 2: over there, I'm gonna do all, I'm gonna do this,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this. You know that you don't have
Speaker 2: the hip strength or the knee mobility to do what
Speaker 2: you're saying, but I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do
Speaker 2: this right now we're actually at your place and it's time, right,
Speaker 2: And then they're like, it's gonna be pretty regular. I got,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna do my best, right. But
Speaker 2: this is my thing, is how many campaign promises knowing
Speaker 2: that there's checks and balances, knowing that there's courts, Knowing
Speaker 2: that there are politically appointed people that have positions for
Speaker 2: either for life or as long as they run unopposed,
Speaker 2: or as long as no one challenges them in any
Speaker 2: way or any of their any of their actions aren't
Speaker 2: necessarily uncovered. How much of the promises that a politician
Speaker 2: makes should their constituents expect them to fulfill? Because I
Speaker 2: think there's something like with Biden's student loan forgiveness right
Speaker 2: where Biden keeps trying to forgive more than he's allowed
Speaker 2: to forgive by either the Supreme Court or by federal judges.
Speaker 2: Then he will find a different way to forgive a
Speaker 2: little less, but he is chipping away at that promise.
Speaker 2: But it's a thing that's been brought to me as
Speaker 2: him not fulfilling his promise.
Speaker 3: Right. Well, I think It's two things to that, right,
Speaker 3: If I'm a politician, all politicians really are able to
Speaker 3: do is tell us what they want to do, literally,
Speaker 3: like they tell us what they want to do. Now,
Speaker 3: if they want to stay in office, they'll go in
Speaker 3: there and do those do those things.
Speaker 1: I think as voters we should expect him to.
Speaker 3: Do all of it, okay, right, And if they don't
Speaker 3: get it all done, I want to see you at
Speaker 3: least trying like. I want to see you trying like hard.
Speaker 3: I want to constantly see you trying to pass this
Speaker 3: bill and they're getting, you know, shot down for whatever reason.
Speaker 3: I want to see you doing executive orders. I want
Speaker 3: to see you just trying to do these things that
Speaker 3: you said you were going to do. That's why I
Speaker 3: think the student loan thing hit so well, because when
Speaker 3: he was getting blocked right by Congress in the Senate,
Speaker 3: he would go to an executive order, he would circumvent him.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: I respect that at least you're trying to get something done, right,
Speaker 3: or at least you're using whatever power you have to
Speaker 3: do something.
Speaker 1: That's all I expect.
Speaker 3: I just expect you to try, you know, and and
Speaker 3: when you do get something done, fantastic creat Thank you,
Speaker 3: but at least try because you like to your point,
Speaker 3: you can't just keep you know, selling me a dream
Speaker 3: every single time, especially after you donet hit. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: don't hit now I know what everything I'm here because
Speaker 3: I clearly like it, But could you at least do
Speaker 3: something to me and not make me feel like a
Speaker 3: whole do something for me?
Speaker 4: So so I off of Biden.
Speaker 2: There is something that's that's been really big for me.
Speaker 2: Biden's not gonna run again. His political career, as we
Speaker 2: know it is over Rightly, he could still have one
Speaker 2: of the most consequential presidencies ever because now he's beholden
Speaker 2: to nothing and no one seemingly right because he doesn't
Speaker 2: need anything else. He's not running again. So what would
Speaker 2: you like to see Biden do? Because this is the
Speaker 2: thing that people wish that they had the first time
Speaker 2: that they run. Whenever they run, they're talking like, Hey,
Speaker 2: I won't take anybody's money, I won't be beholding anybody.
Speaker 2: Nobody can touch me, hold me back anything. I'm here
Speaker 2: for you, the people. Biden actually can do all of
Speaker 2: that right now instead of I'm not even saying he's
Speaker 2: doing this, but I'm saying, we the public expect him
Speaker 2: to sulk and feel sorry for himself and everything, because
Speaker 2: it's an embarrassing thing to have to drop out of
Speaker 2: a race and stuff.
Speaker 4: But he's still the president.
Speaker 3: I'm glad he stepped down. You know, That's something I
Speaker 3: was calling for for a long time. But I think
Speaker 3: what President Biden can do, you know, for his remaining
Speaker 3: time in office, and he's starting to do it a
Speaker 3: little bit, raise hell about that Supreme Court. Like literally,
Speaker 3: you know, you say you want to put reforms on
Speaker 3: the Supreme Court. I want to see him raising hell
Speaker 3: about the Supreme Court because the Supreme Court is no
Speaker 3: longer a legitimate institution. And my biggest fear, and you know,
Speaker 3: I said it, you know, a little bit on the
Speaker 3: you know, in my opinion piece on the show this week.
Speaker 3: What happens in November, vice President wins the election all
Speaker 3: around the country. You have all of these different states
Speaker 3: that refuse to certify the results of the election, right,
Speaker 3: and then Donald Trump challenges the results of the election.
Speaker 3: It goes to the Supreme Court. In light of all
Speaker 3: the Supreme Court's recent rulings, they just made this a king.
Speaker 3: What makes us believe the Supreme Court would not overturn
Speaker 3: the results of that election. So I would like to
Speaker 3: see President Biden raising a hell about that over the
Speaker 3: next few months. I would he already said that, you know,
Speaker 3: he wants to put a reforms, but I need the
Speaker 3: rhetoric to be you know, we gotta start talking about
Speaker 3: expanding the court, like literally, I think that he really
Speaker 3: needs to be spending all his remaining energy on talking
Speaker 3: about how illegitimate this court is. And by the way,
Speaker 3: and he's old, so he's seen a lot of different
Speaker 3: variations of the court. He knows when the court is corrupt.
Speaker 4: Or just taking away the lifetime appointment, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 1: But that's something that was part of the reform.
Speaker 3: I think it's eighteen years I think they said, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: that's something he's proposing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But my whole point is I would like to
Speaker 1: see him doing that, you know.
Speaker 3: For his remaining time in office, the last ninety days,
Speaker 3: because that might be the biggest hurdle. You know, we
Speaker 3: keep talking about, you know, the things standing in the
Speaker 3: way of keeping Trump out of the White House is
Speaker 3: Vice President Kamala Haads and Tim Wallas.
Speaker 1: Maybe not that might not be the biggest that might
Speaker 1: not be the thing.
Speaker 2: The only thing I would the only thing to sort
Speaker 2: of doubtse a little bit of the flame of that
Speaker 2: fear is that we're going from in this situation, Abiden
Speaker 2: to Harris, which then at least the president in that scenario, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, if you.
Speaker 3: Want, if you're going to have a constitutional crisis, you
Speaker 3: wanted while Democrats are in office.
Speaker 1: But you know, like like I said, he will still
Speaker 1: challenge it.
Speaker 3: And I have no doubt in my mind that his
Speaker 3: cronies all around the country will refuse to certified the
Speaker 3: results of the election.
Speaker 1: He'll challenge it.
Speaker 3: It'll go to the Supreme Court, and I have no
Speaker 3: reason to believe they wouldn't overturn it. Yeah, I have
Speaker 3: no reason to believe that they would.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's gonna say.
Speaker 3: Everybody keep saying that the thing that's going to keep
Speaker 3: Trump out of the White House is Kamala Harris and
Speaker 3: Governor Tim Walls. Those are the things that are going
Speaker 3: to keep them out of I mean, keep keep Trump
Speaker 3: out of the White House. But what is going to
Speaker 3: be the thing to keep them out?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: If they win, Even if they win, there's mechanisms in
Speaker 3: place that can keep them out. Republicans got this shit fixed.
Speaker 1: In a real, real, real way.
Speaker 3: They got it to where it's either two results of
Speaker 3: elections they win, or this shit wasn't real.
Speaker 1: It was fake, it was rigged.
Speaker 3: And I have no reason to believe that they are
Speaker 3: not going to push the gas on that in November.
Speaker 3: And and everybody that's listening to my voice right now,
Speaker 3: none of y'all should be surprised when this happens.
Speaker 1: Just be prepared.
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