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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Doug Peterson Show. JP Shadrick and former

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Speaker 1: Jaguar Jeff Logoman discuss the latest Jaguars news with the

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Speaker 1: head coach. The Doug Peterson Show starts right now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in the Doug Peterson Show from Michigan. The Jaguars

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Speaker 2: and the Lions joint practices Wednesday Thursday, and now preparing

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Speaker 2: for Week two of the preseason coming up Saturday, one

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Speaker 2: o'clock Ford Field at Downtown Detroit, the Lions entertaining the

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars. J P Shadrick, Jeff Logoman. We'll hear from

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Speaker 2: the head coach back in studio with us week one

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Speaker 2: before the Jaguars facing Indianapolis Colts. They're kind of busy

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Speaker 2: this time of year. Training camp underway, the joint practices,

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Speaker 2: and then of course next week really kind of ramping

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Speaker 2: up preparations and address rehearsal scenario for the Dolphins coming

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Speaker 2: to town next week. Then they got to cut the

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Speaker 2: roster down everything that comes with that. Then there's the

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Speaker 2: kind of the bye weekend before the ragular season begins,

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Speaker 2: so there's a lot to get to. We'll hear from

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Speaker 2: Doug again in a few weeks time. We're gonna hear

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Speaker 2: from him coming up in a little bit from his

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Speaker 2: press conference earlier this week. But hey, two days on

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Speaker 2: the practice field here in Detroit. Logs pads on Wednesday

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Speaker 2: and no pads today, but plenty of good work getting in.

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Speaker 2: Both teams feel like they're ascending. The Lions in the

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Speaker 2: NFC North. It's a totally changed division now Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: is in New York. That changes the dynamic of the

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Speaker 2: entire division. And they were right there on the doorstep

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Speaker 2: last year anyway, and maybe they can take that next step.

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Speaker 2: The Jags broke through and got to the playoffs in

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Speaker 2: a wild rally at the end. They're built for something

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Speaker 2: great ahead. So it's two ascending teams feeling like they're

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Speaker 2: getting a lot of work done this week. Well. Both

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Speaker 2: teams ended last year on a real positive note, even

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Speaker 2: though the Detroit Lions didn't make the playoffs, to be

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Speaker 2: able to beat the Green Bay Packers, and here's the thing,

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Speaker 2: I think that was impressive. I think they knew before

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Speaker 2: the game that they were out of the playoffs, but

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Speaker 2: yet they still beat the Green Bay Packers, which gave

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Speaker 2: them a sweep of the Green Bay Packers, which has

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Speaker 2: been the team that's been controlling that Central Division for

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Speaker 2: many years. And so I gave a lot of credit

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Speaker 2: to Dan Campbell for motivating his football team and playing

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Speaker 2: in an excellent game and winning that game in a

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Speaker 2: game that really didn't have any importance. And they finished

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Speaker 2: the season. I mean they started the season out at

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Speaker 2: So credit to Dan Campbell, and there's a lot of excitement.

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Speaker 2: They were nine and eight to finish the season. The

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Speaker 2: think both teams were excited about the year. And talked

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Speaker 2: with Dan Campbell a little bit after practice today, you know,

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Speaker 2: an old player kind of talking to another old player,

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Speaker 2: and I asked him about his football team, and he said, look,

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Speaker 2: we're really excited about our football team. We feel like

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Speaker 2: we got a real good chance. And he really appreciated

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Speaker 2: the work of yesterday and today that they had with

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars, and he said that, you know, any time

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Speaker 2: you can get a look against different scheme, which the

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Speaker 2: Detroit Lions run more of a four to three of

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Speaker 2: the defense, right the Jaguars run a three to four,

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Speaker 2: so it's a different scheme. Look there. But then he

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Speaker 2: Jaguars length that they have on defense. When you look

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Speaker 2: I mean some big, tall fellows, you know. And whereas

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Speaker 2: away from these two days with a real positive attitude

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Speaker 2: meat and potatoes offensive game plan in these joint type

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Speaker 2: And you won't see any of that on Saturday at

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Speaker 2: one o'clock against the Detroit Lions either, because that's just

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Speaker 2: not what this preseason about. This preseason about working the

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Speaker 2: core of your offense, getting an honest evaluation of your personnel.

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Speaker 2: You start game planning. You'll have a little bit of

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Speaker 2: want to see how some of these guys on the

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Speaker 2: how they can handle it. But for the most part,

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Speaker 2: I mean, these guys, Mike McCoy, Phil Rauscher, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean that's but they don't want to show all

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Speaker 2: other thing. This Detroit Lions offense also has a very young,

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Speaker 2: be the hot young candidate to be the next head

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Speaker 2: a mind that he has now talked with Mark Burnell

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Speaker 2: so I go and ask Mark Burnell, who he's the

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks coach of the Detroit Lions. Former Jaguar. Great. I mean,

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Speaker 2: But he said, he said, look, Ben is an incredibly

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Speaker 2: It's it's kind of a flip card that it's got

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Speaker 2: Hendon Hooker was a third round pick. You know, had

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Speaker 2: Teddy Bridgewater is wearing fifty. Yep. And so I had

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Speaker 2: Because he got, you know, ninety guys on the on

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Speaker 2: so who's wearing number five? And he said, well, David Montgomery,

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Speaker 2: Bridgewater and he claimed number five. Well, David Montgomery wore

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Speaker 2: I'm on Ross Saint Brown as a team. He definitely's

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Speaker 2: It's just funny how how you know, one story, you

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. It is the Doug Peterson Show.

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Speaker 3: J P.

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Speaker 2: Shadwick, Jeff Flogoman from the Team Hotel in Troy, Michigan.

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Speaker 2: The Jaguars and the Lions practicing yesterday and today the

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Speaker 2: preseason week two game coming up Saturday, one o'clock at

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Speaker 2: yesterday's practice. If you guys banged up for the Jaguars yesterday,

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Speaker 2: Let's start on offense. On the offensive line. Josh Wells

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Speaker 2: the side wearing sweatpants. And tennis shoes. That's right. Anton

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Speaker 2: some one on one stuff. Didn't do a lot of

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Speaker 2: him in the game on Saturday. Yeah. The for an

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Speaker 2: When it comes to the shoulder, you know, that's what

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.

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Speaker 2: It's not about you know, who's the tougher man. It's

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Speaker 2: That it might have been the best pass rushing day

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Speaker 2: now I just need to figure out what they're doing

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Speaker 2: so that I can anticipate and get ready to go

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Speaker 2: where I need to go. There was one yesterday, first

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Speaker 2: play of eleven on eleven, he drops back, kind of

432
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Speaker 2: drifting back into the right and Goff whistles one over him,

433
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Speaker 2: but he reaches out one handed interception. Incredible play on

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Speaker 2: the ball, just the awareness to be in that spot

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Speaker 2: and still make a play. It was really out of

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Speaker 2: his reach, but he made an exceptional play because he

437
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Speaker 2: was in a place where he could make the play.

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Speaker 2: He was close enough to be there the six inches right,

439
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Speaker 2: that's a big difference if you're a step behind. He

440
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Speaker 2: doesn't get his hand on that football. Let's go back

441
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Speaker 2: to the draft. What was the one strong trait that

442
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Speaker 2: was always talked about with Devin Lloyd With a lot

443
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Speaker 2: of the things that they went through at Utah. You

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Speaker 2: remember that because they had they had a tragedy on

445
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Speaker 2: your cause campus and there killed, yes, a couple of

446
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Speaker 2: players that were killed, and Devin was one of the

447
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Speaker 2: guys that helped lead the team through a lot of

448
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Speaker 2: that tough time. So leadership, leadership, that's that's the character

449
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Speaker 2: trait that everybody talked about, right, okay, last year with

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Speaker 2: Devon And when you're a rookie, it's it's hard to

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Speaker 2: be a leader because if you don't know what the

452
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Speaker 2: hell you're doing, you can't lead other people because you

453
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Speaker 2: need you need to take care of your house, your

454
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Speaker 2: space before you can worry about leading other people. And

455
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 2: this year you're starting to see Devin comfortable and then

456
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Speaker 2: if he can get everything down, this isn't this is

457
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Speaker 2: an exceptional leader. I mean exceptional leader. You've talked to him,

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Speaker 2: you see how he interacts with his teammates. You see

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Speaker 2: how much respect that they have for him. But you

460
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Speaker 2: can't be a leader until you have productivity and success

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Speaker 2: as a player. So if he can get that, okay,

462
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Speaker 2: if he can get that success, then he can become

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Speaker 2: even more impactful for this defense because he can also

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Speaker 2: bring that leadership skill set to this defense to add

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Speaker 2: to what Foyer has, which would be tremendous A little later,

466
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Speaker 2: we'll get into the secondary for this Jaguars team and

467
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Speaker 2: some questions there at that number three cornerback spot. But

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Speaker 2: when we come back, Jamal Agnu, Jaguars wide receiver and

469
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Speaker 2: kick returner, on the strategies that could be in play

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Speaker 2: in the return game this year. That's next on The

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Speaker 2: Doug Peterson Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.

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Speaker 2: We're back JP Shatter Jeff Logman. The Doug Peterson Show

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Speaker 2: continues on the Jaguars Radio Network from Detroit, where the

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Speaker 2: Jaguars and the Lions practice the last two days. A

476
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Speaker 2: former Lion is now on the Jaguars, Jamal agnew Logs,

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Speaker 2: wide receiver, kick returner. We know what he can do

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Speaker 2: in the return game. We saw flashes of what he

479
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Speaker 2: can do in the offense as well, you know, sweeps, handoffs,

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Speaker 2: whatever you want to do with it, normal routes as

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Speaker 2: a wide receiver. He's just grown as the years have gone,

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Speaker 2: and it is cool to see a lot of the folks,

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Speaker 2: the staffers for the Lions welcome him back with open

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Speaker 2: arms this week. And look, he's one of the favorites

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Speaker 2: of the Jaguars staff. I mean that they love Jamal Agnew.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about a guy that was a former defensive

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Speaker 2: back that then was moved to the offensive side of

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Speaker 2: the ball, who was a returner all along, and then

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars integrate him to the offensive side of things.

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Speaker 2: And now you hear Doug Peterson talk about him. He goes, look,

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Speaker 2: we love him. He can play every position. I'm like, what, Yeah,

492
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Speaker 2: he can play all three wide receiver positions. He can

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Speaker 2: play running back. I mean, and he's a guy that's versatile.

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Speaker 2: And the more you can do wherever you are, whether

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Speaker 2: you're a special teamer, an offensive player, or a defensive player.

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Speaker 2: And this goes back to the old saying that mister

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Speaker 2: Bill Hampton used to tell me. He was the head

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Speaker 2: equipment guy in New York Jets, going all the way

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Speaker 2: back to the Joe Namath years, and he always said this,

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Speaker 2: He said, young man, the more you can do. It's

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Speaker 2: all he would say, young man, The more you can do,

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Speaker 2: and the more you can do in football, the more

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Speaker 2: valuable you make yourself because on game day, the coaches

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Speaker 2: are restricted to fifty three guys. So if you prove

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Speaker 2: your value that you can play four positions on offense, okay,

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Speaker 2: and play special teams. That's a guy that you want

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Speaker 2: to make sure that's on your roster all the time.

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Speaker 2: AGD returning to face his old team this week, and yes,

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Speaker 2: hearing it from the opposing sideline throughout practice.

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Speaker 4: That's part of the joint practice experience. And that's what

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Speaker 4: you love. You love to come out here and compete.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're ready to compete against somebody other than ourselves.

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Speaker 4: You know, we've been practicing against each other for two

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Speaker 4: three weeks now. You know, DB's are starting to learn

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Speaker 4: our routes and moves and stuff. So it was good

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Speaker 4: to compete against other people, but you know, we expect

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Speaker 4: that from joint practices. That Doug talked about it before

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Speaker 4: we got here was be smart. It's gonna get chippy,

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Speaker 4: that's just how it is, but just be smart. Don't

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Speaker 4: take it too far.

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Speaker 2: How better of a receiver are you now than three two,

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Speaker 2: three years ago?

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Speaker 4: Light years for sure, just because I feel like every

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Speaker 4: year I've continued to grow, add elements of my game,

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Speaker 4: add versatility to my game. My goal coming into this

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Speaker 4: year was to you know, be the best number four

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Speaker 4: receiving the league obviously we gotta. We got a tremendous

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Speaker 4: trio in zay Kirk and Rid. And you know, my

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Speaker 4: goal when I told the staff this was, you know,

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Speaker 4: if anybody goes down golf for bed, I want to

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Speaker 4: come in there be no drop in production, you know,

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Speaker 4: plays being made, everything like that. So that's something I

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Speaker 4: pride my cell phone.

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Speaker 2: For sure. It takes brains and smarts to hang with

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Speaker 2: that group, right, I mean, especially in your role, you

536
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Speaker 2: got to step in if somebody's down and on all

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Speaker 2: those routes. You gotta know every route tree, every every

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Speaker 2: line everywhere to line up in this offense. And that's

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Speaker 2: not just you, that's everybody in the offense because they

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Speaker 2: can flip things around.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that that's what that's That's one thing we

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Speaker 4: uh we kind of prod ourselves on in our office.

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Speaker 4: It's just versatility, you know, moving pieces around. You know,

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Speaker 4: even if it's a running back, you know, we sometimes

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Speaker 4: put receivers in that running back you know, run stuff.

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Speaker 2: Out the backfield. You know.

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Speaker 4: We we have such a versatile group with you know,

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Speaker 4: like our tight ends, Evan Brandon, our running backs, Travis Tank,

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Speaker 4: the Ernest Hasty, Like we we have weapons glower, I

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Speaker 4: feel like, but you know, we just gotta we gotta

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Speaker 4: jail as an offense, be consistent and start fast.

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Speaker 2: Start starting fast is probably our biggest goal this year.

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Speaker 2: How do you do that? Uh?

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Speaker 4: Just locking in, making the plays that we're supposed to make,

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Speaker 4: converting on third downs, scoring in the red zone. You know,

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Speaker 4: that's one thing we need to pride ourselves on this year.

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Speaker 4: You know, we finished games really well last year. Obviously

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Speaker 4: that's history, but you know, we just got to come

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Speaker 4: out here and start fast.

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Speaker 2: Now, Jamaal, there's a new this year where you can

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Speaker 2: fair catch on kickoffs. I don't know how often you'll

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Speaker 2: be doing that, right.

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Speaker 4: No, we probably won't be doing that much. Nah, I'll

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Speaker 4: just kidd. If it was up to me, I'll return everything.

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Speaker 4: But it's a little strategic obviously off of the year

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Speaker 4: we had last year. You know, in the return game,

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Speaker 4: teams are probably gonna start doing those blop kicks you know,

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Speaker 4: to the five yard line kind of red line is

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Speaker 4: and those are tough for returners to get get to,

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Speaker 4: especially even myself. So it's got to be decision making

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Speaker 4: in like, hey, this week, if we get bloop kicks,

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Speaker 4: maybe want a fair catcher, just to say field position.

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Speaker 4: You know, you know this game is all about field position,

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Speaker 4: and you know, giving the offense momentum, because getting pinned

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Speaker 4: inside the twenty is a terrible feeling for the offense.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's not many returners of your caliber in

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Speaker 2: the league. If all these other teams are starting a

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Speaker 2: fair catch, that could give this group an advantage right

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Speaker 2: field positions. Big flipping the field a couple of times,

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Speaker 2: take one of the house a couple of times a year,

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Speaker 2: maybe more than that. That's something a lot of teams

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Speaker 2: don't have right now exactly.

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Speaker 4: And I feel like the return game gets overlooked to

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Speaker 4: a certain extent nowadays just because of the world chain

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Speaker 4: and everything. But it was it was super it was

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Speaker 4: super important for us in that run we had last

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Speaker 4: year towards the end of the season. So that's something

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Speaker 4: we brought ourselves on. Is given our offense good field position.

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Speaker 4: But also it gives you momentum, like you know, the

590
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Speaker 4: fans get into it, the sideline gets into it, and

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Speaker 4: just the whole team. The energy just changes.

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Speaker 2: Jamal Agnew Jaguars wide receiver and kick returner. I mean

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Speaker 2: he's had the green light in the past Why would

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Speaker 2: that change now? But it's a good point there. The

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Speaker 2: strategy could change a bit. The books out a little

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Speaker 2: bit on this return game for the Jags. Maybe they

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Speaker 2: pop it up a little more and try to force

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Speaker 2: some fair catches. We'll see what the season holds for

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Speaker 2: that group and certainly Jamal Agnew for the Jags. Let's

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Speaker 2: come back in a moment. We'll discuss that conversation and

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Speaker 2: some more of the Jaguars wide receivers. This is the

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Speaker 2: Doug Peterson Show on Jaguars Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.

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Speaker 2: From the Team Hotel in Troy, Michigan. The Doug Peterson

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Speaker 2: Show continues j P. Shatrick with Jeff Loogerman head coach

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Speaker 2: Doug Peterson joining us week one of the regular season,

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Speaker 2: before the Jaguars face the Indianapolis Colts. The last two

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Speaker 2: days though they have faced the Detroit Lions and joint

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Speaker 2: practices at Allen Park at the Lions facility about eighteen

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Speaker 2: miles away or so from the Team Hotel, and of

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Speaker 2: course Saturday one o'clock kickoff time for preseason Week two,

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Speaker 2: the Jags and the Lions at Ford Field in downtown Detroit.

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Speaker 2: We heard from Jamal Agnew just a moment ago, wide receiver,

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Speaker 2: kick returner, and I thought the quote that really stood

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Speaker 2: out for me was he wants to be the best

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Speaker 2: number four receiver in the NFL. He understands his role

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Speaker 2: and this wide receiver room in this offense. It's the

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Speaker 2: big three, right, Ridley Kirk, Zay Jones, and then Agnew's

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Speaker 2: kind of that guy that can plug in everywhere. He's

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Speaker 2: got to do every spot. All those receivers have to

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Speaker 2: know every spot, by the way, but certainly Agnew somebody's down,

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Speaker 2: he's the next guy in there, and he's got to

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Speaker 2: know every tree and where to go and what it

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Speaker 2: means in the offense. And when they're all healthy and

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Speaker 2: rolling and they're all on the field together, that creates

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Speaker 2: just a totally different issue for the defense. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think you brought up a great point about being the

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Speaker 2: best number four. It shows an unselfishness and a lot

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Speaker 2: of guys would have the mindset if they were the

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Speaker 2: number four that they hey, look, I want to be

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Speaker 2: the best wide receiver on this football team. I want

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Speaker 2: to be number one, you know, and throw me the

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Speaker 2: damn ball. I mean, you can have that attitude and

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Speaker 2: that's I think was what's unique and special about the

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Speaker 2: wide receiver group. And I'm kind of including Evan Ingram

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Speaker 2: in there because I mean, he's kind of a I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's a he's a wide receiving tight end, and so

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Speaker 2: it's really encouraging to see and to hear that attitude

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Speaker 2: out of out of Jamal because you hear it all

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Speaker 2: the time out of Jay and Kirk. I mean they

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Speaker 2: talk about, hey, look if it's Y's day, it's Zay's day.

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Speaker 2: I know Christian says that, and Zay will say, hey,

643
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: look if it's Christian's day, it's or Evans day, that's

644
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 2: then it's their day. You know, it's about winning, and

645
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: that's that's ultimately what you have to have. You have

646
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: to have an unselfish room and that has always been

647
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: one of the I think traits of Doug Peterson's offenses, okay,

648
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: in all the years that he's been coaching, is that

649
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: he has always relied upon multiple, multiple weapons. It's never

650
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 2: been a Calvin Ridley centric offense. It's never about one guy.

651
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: It's about the system, the team, and the production of

652
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 2: the offense as a unit. Last year, the receivers on

653
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 2: this team, you know, all had success in yardage and catches.

654
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody spread the wealth. Zay and Christian both

655
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: had over eighty catches. I'm the only duo in the

656
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: National Football League to be able to do that. And

657
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: I think a little bit of that is going to

658
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: come into the running back room this year because I

659
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: believe that Tanks Tank Bigsby is going to be a

660
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 2: legitimate guy to share the load with Etn. Whereas last

661
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 2: year we saw Etn and then a little bit of

662
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: Jamichael Hasty, I think this year we're gonna see a

663
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 2: little bit of Etn okay, a little bit of Tank Bigsby,

664
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Speaker 2: and then a little bit less of Jamichael Hasty, but

665
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 2: he will still be involved. So I mean that's that's

666
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 2: really encouraging when you have that depth at the skill position,

667
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: like the Jaguars have knock On Wood, and you know,

668
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: everybody stays healthy, because that's what you want to have

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Speaker 2: through the season. Put it this way, even like the

670
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: running back depth that room, you're probably gonna have to

671
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: You're gonna say goodbye to Snoop Connor, who is at

672
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: what what round was he last year? A draft pick?

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Speaker 2: Last year in mid rounds. Yeah, mid round fourth or

674
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Speaker 2: fifth or somewhere in that, and he's probably gonna be

675
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 2: out because you now have a really good room and

676
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: you just don't have, you know, the space to keep

677
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: a guy like that. But that's when you become a

678
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 2: good football team. Then you're gonna have some cuts that

679
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: include some previous mid to high draft picks that are

680
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 2: going to happen. It's just just part of the deal.

681
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Speaker 2: We'll return and here from head coach Doug Peterson on

682
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: the Lions game last year, the Lions put a forty

683
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Speaker 2: burger on the Jaguars forty burger. But back in the moment.

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Speaker 2: This is the Doug Peterson Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.

686
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Speaker 3: There's moments throughout a course of an NFL year where.

687
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: There's there's games, there's.

688
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: You know, situations, it might be, could be an injury

689
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 3: to your team, whatever it might be that that kind

690
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 3: of spurs a little bit inside of everybody players, And

691
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 3: obviously that was that was a moment that wasn't our

692
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: best and we seemed to kind of figure it out

693
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: from there and flip it around.

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Speaker 4: After that.

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Speaker 2: I'd say that's head coach Doug Peterson discussing last season's

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Speaker 2: lost to the Detroit Lions at Ford Field, a forty

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Speaker 2: to fourteen final of the Lions blasted the Jags that

698
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 2: day here in Detroit. Welcome back to Doug Peterson Show, JP, Shadrick,

699
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: Jeff Flagaman. After that point, the Jaguars won their final

700
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: five of the regular season and walked down the Tennessee

701
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: Titans and won the AFC South in Week eighteen with

702
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: that win over Tennessee and Jacksonville to get it done.

703
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: But that Lions game was the last Jaguars loss. Of course,

704
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: practices this week against the Lions bringing back some of

705
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: those memories and hey, don't let it happen again like that.

706
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: But Doug's right, it sometimes takes a moment like that.

707
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: And earlier in the season you could argue that the

708
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: interception in London and the goal line kind of did

709
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: that for Trevor right personally, got him to not throw

710
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: as many of those anymore. But the team had that

711
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 2: wake up call in Detroit and then got their act

712
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 2: together and they did a good job. And they were

713
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 2: just coming off a big win against the Baltimore Raven

714
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 2: so I think it kind of taught them, hey, lookly

715
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: and stay grounded after the win and be ready to play.

716
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: And they got throttled. And the Detroit lines were a

717
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: good football team, and the Detroit Lions have some offensive

718
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: weapons and some good quarterback play, and when you're not

719
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: ready to go against a good football team, it can

720
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 2: make you look bad sometimes, and that's kind of what happened.

721
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 2: And they were able to bounce back, so I mean,

722
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: they did a good good job with that. But yeah,

723
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Speaker 2: I mean sometimes a young football team has to take

724
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: some lumps as part of the learning process, and that

725
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,479
Speaker 2: was certainly one of those lumps from last year. Last

726
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 2: year's in the rearview, though, that's what I'm to look forward,

727
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: And what was disappointing in that game for me was,

728
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: first of all, the Lions were up and down the

729
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 2: field that will and the defense just had zero answer.

730
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Speaker 2: And I thought it would be a bit of a

731
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: shootout game. I really did, because the Lions defense at

732
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: that time, if you'll remember, they were like one of

733
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Speaker 2: the worst defenses in the league, and they were playing

734
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 2: a ton of guys that were in their first year rookies,

735
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: and the Jaguars just didn't have any kind of rhythm

736
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Speaker 2: as an offense. So the disappointment in that game because

737
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: I mean the defense was struggling at points, you know,

738
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: in the middle of the season, so you kind of

739
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: knew that, but I just would I expect that a

740
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: lot more out of the offense than it just wasn't

741
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: happening in that game. And I thought it would against

742
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 2: a young, not that great of a Detroit Lions defense.

743
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: Jared Goff that day through for three hundred and forty yards,

744
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: two touchdown passes, thirty one to forty one through the air.

745
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 2: He's back, of course, but look at the well, give

746
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: me some rushing stats that the Lions has. Swift fourteen

747
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: for sixty two a touchdown, Williams eleven for thirty five touchdown.

748
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: Those are the leaders, okay, And so I mean they

749
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: didn't run the ball, but no, but they ran it.

750
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, Williams ran it success and and that

751
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: was I think key. But Jared Goff was just you know,

752
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: it's having his way. How many times did he get sacked?

753
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: Let's see here, one and a half two, okay, and

754
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: there's not a ton of pressure and that's yeah, that's it.

755
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: You know, we knew last year, looked at they did

756
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: they and still a bit of a question mark this ship.

757
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: Where are you going to get the pass rush the

758
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: pressure from the inside of the pocket. And it's a

759
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: bit of a question mark last year. It was a

760
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: bit of a it's still a question mark this year.

761
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Speaker 2: And you knew that the Detroit Lions had two premier tackles,

762
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: so you knew that it was going to be tough

763
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Speaker 2: fletting to get pressure on Jared Goff. Chad Mouvema had

764
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Speaker 2: a second a half in that game, by the way,

765
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Speaker 2: and eleven tackles. Yeah, I think that's one of the

766
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: games East harded. It was. Yeah, I had you know,

767
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: I don't want to say a good game because they

768
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: scored a four points. You can't say Andy Defender had

769
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 2: a good game when there the offense puts out forty

770
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: forty points. But learning experience and then the ensuing games

771
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 2: that Jaguars got on a roll and it was fun.

772
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Speaker 2: Let's come back. We'll look ahead to Saturday playing time.

773
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: Who's going, who's not? Coach Logoman will give us his

774
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: answers when we come back. It's the Doug Peterson Show

775
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 2: on Jaguars Radio.

776
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.

777
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Speaker 2: Final moments of The Doug Peterson Show from the Team

778
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: Hotel in Troy, Michigan. This Outside of Detroit, JP Shadwick

779
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: with Jeff Logoman. The Jaguars and the Lions coming up Saturday,

780
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: one o'clock kickoff time from Ford Field, Detroit. It's pre

781
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 2: season week two. They got some work against the Lions

782
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: and pads yesterday without pads today. A lot of starting

783
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: reps out there the last two days, so you might

784
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 2: not see many of those guys go on Saturday. You'll

785
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: see a few whose shoes should play it thea. But

786
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: before we go to the game, just real quick, I

787
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 2: think as a player, when you have the opportunity to

788
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: change up the schedule doing this kind of a thing,

789
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: you know, where you travel and you practice against the team,

790
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: it was great because it just broke up them and

791
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: uh and it wasn't like it was a This is

792
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: not a pleasure trip. It's still a business trip. But

793
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: it's just nice because it's different. And when you have

794
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 2: the opportunity to play any game. As far as who's

795
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: gonna play, who's not going to play, I think we're

796
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: going to see a lot of backups in this situation.

797
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: We'll see some select starters that that they feel like

798
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: that they need the reps. And I think on offense,

799
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: you know your your young players, your young tackle Walker

800
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 2: little will probably play if if health, if he's healthy,

801
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: Anton Harrison will probably play a little bit, as long

802
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: as he's not at risk of getting a setback with

803
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: the shoulder. I think the interior guys, uh, I would

804
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: be surprised if if your center Fortner goes, or if

805
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 2: Sheriff goes, your skill position guys, your starters are not

806
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: going to go, would be my guest, Trevor No. And

807
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: it's be a great opportunity for that second tier of

808
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 2: wide receivers that we talked about earlier about being really

809
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: a really good group. I think the big night for them,

810
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: the running backs, you know, Snoop Connor, de Ernest Johnson,

811
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Speaker 2: Tank Bigsby, This is a great opportunity to see them

812
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: and UH and then the backup tight ends. I mean,

813
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: we we've been talking about UH, and we like Ferrell

814
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: as an inline blocker. He's probably gonna play because you

815
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: want to still get him some reps. But I'm a

816
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 2: big fan of Prince and We saw a lot of

817
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: really good things from him in camp and then in

818
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: the Dallas game it was kind of it was, Okay,

819
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: I want to see him get some more opportunities that

820
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: catching the ball here in Detroit. Defensively, who needs to

821
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: play well. I think a lot of those guys need

822
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 2: to play. You know. When I say a lot of

823
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: those guys, I mean I don't want to see Fourier.

824
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: I know he can lead the league and tackle time.

825
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: Devin Lloyd. I might get him some snaps, you know,

826
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: he look, he struggled last year. Here would be an

827
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: opportunity for him to play without having Foyer on the

828
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: field and to let him kind of be the captain

829
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: on the field a little bit. So I would probably

830
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: play him. Uh, Trayvon's a young player, you know, he

831
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 2: needs some reps. I would maybe be in line to

832
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: play him. Typhon Campbell he's proven, Okay, I want to

833
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: make sure that I keep him in bubble wrap. And

834
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: you've got some other guys at corner you want to

835
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: see out there and maybe see well. And that's a

836
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: position that you don't want to have an injury. Yeah,

837
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 2: that's say so. I think your starters there are going

838
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: to be put on the shelf your safeties and look,

839
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of Rayshawn Jenkins and Cisco, but

840
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: I don't need to see him. I wish Antonio Johnson

841
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: were going to be healthy. I would have loved to

842
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: see him get a star. Yeah, I've injured his hamstring yesterday.

843
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: Could be a little bit of time for him. We'll

844
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: see what happens moving ahead, looking forward to the game

845
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 2: this Saturday in Detroit, the Lions and the Jaguars, preseason

846
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: Week two, and we'll be two thirds of the way

847
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: home to the regular season. I'm ready for the regular season.

848
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: I think we all are, and I'm not ready to

849
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: bypass this opportunity to look at the rofter because this

850
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: is very important. That's Jeff Logoman. I'm J. P. Shadrick.

851
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Speaker 2: Thanks to our entire crew, and thank you for listening

852
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: and watching. This is the Doug Peterson Show on Jaguars

853
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Speaker 2: Radio Network.