Speaker 1: Hello, Hi.
Speaker 2: What is your name? J Juniper? What's up, Juniper? It's
Speaker 2: the Gecko guy.
Speaker 3: Holy shit, holy shit, Oh my god, I'm literally getting
Speaker 3: fucking brisket sandwiches.
Speaker 2: You're getting brisket sandwiches. I I I'm in my head.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're I can I can tell that. Uh.
Speaker 2: The excitement that I sense from you over the phone
Speaker 2: is significantly It's significantly more related to the brisket sandwiches
Speaker 2: than it is to being on this phone call right now.
Speaker 2: And I am with you on that. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: vicariously excited about the brisket sandwiches.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: No, Juniper, what's going on? Dude?
Speaker 3: Well, right now I can't find my husband's credit card.
Speaker 2: Your husband? Why is your husband paying for the brisket sandwiches?
Speaker 3: Because he's nice, that's good.
Speaker 2: That's a good reason.
Speaker 3: He's like, basically my sugardy. That's he's your brisket daddy,
Speaker 3: my brisket daddy.
Speaker 2: Yes, a brisket tatty. That's cool. Damn that fuck. I
Speaker 2: haven't eaten all day. I gotta maybe I'll get a
Speaker 2: brisket sandwich.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: No, that's literally why we're getting brisket sandwiches right now.
Speaker 3: It's because I also haven't eaten all day.
Speaker 2: That's a that's I feel like you got. I don't
Speaker 2: know if a brisket sandwich is a good thing. I'm
Speaker 2: no nutritionists, obviously, but I don't know if a brisket
Speaker 2: sandwich is a good way to start, right, because I mean,
Speaker 2: that's gonna knock you on your fucking ass.
Speaker 3: You're on well, obviously.
Speaker 2: That's so cool. Uh well June.
Speaker 3: Jun Juniper, Yeah, juny.
Speaker 2: Juny, Juny. What's up, Juny? How you doing?
Speaker 3: I am functional?
Speaker 2: That's a blessing in today's Yes, well Juniper, it says
Speaker 2: here you text me you wanted to say. I own
Speaker 2: a bakery and I work as a phone sex operator
Speaker 2: while baking cakes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, so I'm literally up until like the ass
Speaker 3: crack of dawn some days making cakes, right because it's
Speaker 3: just me. Like I don't have like a staff or anything.
Speaker 3: It's just me. So I don't know. I just kind
Speaker 3: of figured one days I feel bad for the dude
Speaker 3: who's making my sandwiches and getting my type and ship
Speaker 3: right now, he's just having to here past the phone call.
Speaker 3: It's fine, but anyway, so yeah, no, I since I'm
Speaker 3: like up in the odd hours of the night. I
Speaker 3: was just like, you know, uh, fuck it, we ball
Speaker 3: let's let's make some extra cash on the side.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 3: I did this in college just for like shits and giggles,
Speaker 3: and you paid my rent pretty quickly and easily. And
Speaker 3: now here we are.
Speaker 2: So you're like, so you're like moaning into a phone
Speaker 2: while baking a Danish?
Speaker 3: Yeah, dead ass, Like I have a Bluetooth headset, Like
Speaker 3: I just have a like a I A really, I
Speaker 3: have like a fancy headset because the HVAC system at
Speaker 3: the kitchen is really fucking loud, and I'm not about
Speaker 3: to have like random newtee. Like why is there so
Speaker 3: much feedback? You know, because it's always like boomers and
Speaker 3: middle aged people. No, it depends on the day.
Speaker 2: But so I'm gonna take it. Do you make more
Speaker 2: money doing the phone sex or the or the baking.
Speaker 3: Well I only started up doing that again like a
Speaker 3: week and a half ago, So Jerry still out on that,
Speaker 3: but I'll I'll up you come back to me in
Speaker 3: a month.
Speaker 2: I guess there's not a lot of there's not a
Speaker 2: lot of overhead. Although I think if you're if you're
Speaker 2: a phone sex operator, you should be able to write
Speaker 2: your fucking phone plan off on your taxes.
Speaker 1: Ship.
Speaker 3: You're so right, But I'm also on my parents' phone plan.
Speaker 2: Do they know? Do they know what you're using it for? No?
Speaker 3: No, they have no idea.
Speaker 2: That's funny, that's cool man. So you but you own
Speaker 2: your own bakery. How'd you get into doing that? That's
Speaker 2: pretty awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been doing that for a minute now, So I, uh,
Speaker 3: how did I get into this? I don't know. I
Speaker 3: would just like I always really like baking, and I'm
Speaker 3: like really fucking good at you know, making cool ship
Speaker 3: with frosting. And I also so have a full time
Speaker 3: job that I fucking hate. So you know, so you.
Speaker 2: Have three gigs. You're doing the phone sex, you're doing
Speaker 2: the baking, and you have another job. What's your other job?
Speaker 3: I work in it?
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, lots of two phone call related pursuits.
Speaker 3: Literally, No. I was like, I might as well do
Speaker 3: a job that doesn't make me want to kill myself
Speaker 3: at the end of the day and then one that's
Speaker 3: like way more entertaining.
Speaker 2: Do you ever forget to turn off the phone sex
Speaker 2: voice when somebody calls you about their computer not turning on.
Speaker 3: I have not run into that issue at this point,
Speaker 3: but I do occasionally forget to answer the call as
Speaker 3: my IT persona whenever I'm taking calls about the bakery.
Speaker 2: Right right, Oh, I thought, okay, I thought you were
Speaker 2: going to be like you use your IT persona in
Speaker 2: the phone sex because that would also be funny.
Speaker 3: No, oh man, oh man, that would not go well.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're you're that you're doing a whole fucking
Speaker 2: hell of a lot. Man, that's three get and so
Speaker 2: you how did you go about like starting this bakery,
Speaker 2: Like is it a brick and mortar thing, Like do
Speaker 2: you have a place like you have like a location
Speaker 2: in a in a in a place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the brick and mortar place. Uh started? So I
Speaker 3: actually moved into it in like August. I was baking
Speaker 3: out of my house for years. It sucks. It was messy.
Speaker 3: Sorry if you heard that, I was thinking.
Speaker 2: That that's the sound. That's the sound of a bag
Speaker 2: of brisket sandwich is crumbling.
Speaker 3: That is the sound of the brisket sandwiches. Hold on, no,
Speaker 3: Now we're gonna traverse the parking lot and it's cold
Speaker 3: and windy. And shitty.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, nice man? Do you so like? Is the
Speaker 2: goal to go full time on the baking?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 2: Is that where the real passion lies?
Speaker 3: Yes, I am a creative girly. I okay, we're good.
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, you didn't don't please, don't tell me.
Speaker 2: I dropped one of the sandwiches.
Speaker 3: No, no, I almost lost there we go. No, I
Speaker 3: almost lost some other stuff on my passenger seat trying
Speaker 3: to put the sandwiches on top of it.
Speaker 2: So we're good now, okay, So what is your bake?
Speaker 2: Your bakery? What's the like big magnum opus dish? What
Speaker 2: are you guys known for?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 3: I mostly just do cakes, but everything I make is
Speaker 3: dietary restriction friendly, like everything I make is vegan. But
Speaker 3: then I'll do like I don't know. I've been doing
Speaker 3: a lot of die free stuff recently because people don't
Speaker 3: want to give their kids dies, which is I guess fair,
Speaker 3: But you know, gluten free, soy free, sugar free, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm hmm. Have you ever thought about like erotic
Speaker 2: cakes that could be like mixing of your two niches.
Speaker 3: I have done a few cakes that are not safe
Speaker 3: for work, for sure, I love those. Those are my favorites.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm, well that's cool. Mm hmmm. Is there any
Speaker 2: thing there's like? I have so many? This is so
Speaker 2: an interesting trifecta of a life that you're living. Are
Speaker 2: you happy? Are you enjoying life? Or do you not?
Speaker 2: You mentioned not wanting to kill yourself? Or how are
Speaker 2: you doing on that?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're doing great. I'm on Hellazo loft and you know,
Speaker 3: I also have a mood stabilizer because I have bipolar disorder.
Speaker 3: So I'm fu's cool.
Speaker 2: This is I don't know why I'm sharing this, but
Speaker 2: I was. I was thinking today. I was like, dude,
Speaker 2: if I died, I don't it would take like, I
Speaker 2: think it would take a long time for anyone to
Speaker 2: like find me rip let's go back to talking about cakes.
Speaker 3: I feel like people would be like, yo, why the
Speaker 3: fuck is the gag now? Uh? Streaming? And they would
Speaker 3: get concerned.
Speaker 2: You know, does the chat anyone in the chat have
Speaker 2: any questions for for for JUNI yeah, someone asks how
Speaker 2: do you have three jobs and be neuro divergent. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's offensive, but I think I think
Speaker 2: they're I think they're saying it in like an, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm impressed.
Speaker 3: Way yeah, no, Well, I'm also a wedding DJ.
Speaker 2: So what you're also how many? How many fucking jobs
Speaker 2: do you have? You're like a renaissance Lady of Missouri.
Speaker 3: Animal model, part time bonus.
Speaker 2: You're a model, wedding DJ, phone sex operator baker, I
Speaker 2: T person. Yes, what does your husband think of the
Speaker 2: phone sex gig?
Speaker 3: I didn't care?
Speaker 2: What is your best.
Speaker 3: But he gets annoyed mostly because the calls will like
Speaker 3: interrupt my wife or whatever. Occasionally, so like, you know,
Speaker 3: we'll be watching a movie, like on the couch and
Speaker 3: then I'll be like, hey, I'm gonna go take this.
Speaker 3: He'll be like, but don't make the moneys, but also
Speaker 3: fuck you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably thinks. He's probably like, damn, she's on
Speaker 2: the phone. She's probably he probably thinks right now that
Speaker 2: that the brisket sandwiches are late because of a phone
Speaker 2: sex thing.
Speaker 3: Oh god, I forgot he was waiting on the sandwiches.
Speaker 2: Not fuck him. Let's keep doing that. What's your best
Speaker 2: phone call story? That's what someone asked, best or strangest.
Speaker 3: Strangest you know I've had. I'm still thinking about this
Speaker 3: one from the other day. Because I don't know. This
Speaker 3: one was just so wild because it was so out
Speaker 3: of the blue. I forgot I was even in like
Speaker 3: the phone sex que because I was just like doing
Speaker 3: my own thing, Like I was like listening to the
Speaker 3: podcast and baking cake those was like in the zone.
Speaker 3: And it was two seventeen in the morning and I
Speaker 3: get a call and it's this dude, and I shit
Speaker 3: you not. The call like ended almost as fast as
Speaker 3: it started, like he was he was literally like just
Speaker 3: jerking off two pictures of my tits and telling me
Speaker 3: that he liked my tits. And I was just like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: you like my tits and that that was it. Like
Speaker 3: he came almost instantly, and and now I wake up
Speaker 3: every other day to him just sending me money and
Speaker 3: he'll be like, I hope you have a good day.
Speaker 3: Here's five bucks.
Speaker 2: That's cool. Damn you all? Wait so you you you
Speaker 2: just you all you hit him with was uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you like my tits? And that did the job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, literally, that's pretty cool. It was the most bizarre thing.
Speaker 3: I loved it. But also just.
Speaker 2: Like, has anyone from real life called your sex line.
Speaker 3: Not that I know of, they need.
Speaker 2: A big name, what is the most common fantasy from
Speaker 2: phone sex that you've that you've seen.
Speaker 3: I haven't really had any, like, I guess the common
Speaker 3: like fantasy is that the person that they're talking to
Speaker 3: is their girlfriend or someone that they're going out on
Speaker 3: dates with. Consistently and often.
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 3: I have a couple people, like I said, I literally
Speaker 3: just started doing this up again like a week and
Speaker 3: a half ago, and I already have a couple of
Speaker 3: people who are just like, we have an emotional relationship.
Speaker 2: Are you getting calls from London? No?
Speaker 3: Oh god, no, okay, because you.
Speaker 2: Did a little like a British accent there just now.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's I do that sometimes where I'm just like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 5: It's it's almost like for emphasis or just like this
Speaker 5: like extra I guess, I don't know, but I do
Speaker 5: that sometimes.
Speaker 2: Let me see if there's one last.
Speaker 3: No one ever acknowledge that before. There's also a facial
Speaker 3: expression that goes with it.
Speaker 2: Well, look, a lot of people in the chat they're
Speaker 2: saying you're an inspiration, and I agree. I think I
Speaker 2: think that's that's that's you're You're a modern day renaissance woman.
Speaker 2: You're you're, You're you know, you're you're, You're the woman
Speaker 2: living the busy, the busy life. You're like, uh, what's
Speaker 2: your face, h Jennifer whatever.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what I'm talking about. But I
Speaker 2: hope that you continue to not want to die. I
Speaker 2: hope that you continue. Uh, you're living the Abraham Lincoln
Speaker 2: vision of whatever you are, be a good one, So
Speaker 2: keep keep rocking in the free world, Judie, is there
Speaker 2: anything else that you wanted to to say or or
Speaker 2: about any of these gigs, or about life or anything
Speaker 2: anything at all that we that we didn't we didn't cover.
Speaker 2: I feel like there's I don't know, are you hiding
Speaker 2: a sixth job or you in the military too?
Speaker 4: What are you?
Speaker 2: What's what's up?
Speaker 3: No? Fuck the military. I'm not doing that. Absolutely, fuck
Speaker 3: that noise. No. I guess if anybody wants to try
Speaker 3: and search through the massive wave of phone sex operators,
Speaker 3: I'm on night flirt.
Speaker 2: What is night flirt?
Speaker 3: That's the service that I go through.
Speaker 2: There, Like was a couple people in the chat being like, so,
Speaker 2: uh not just asking for a friend. If anyone you
Speaker 2: wanted to let us know where you can plug if
Speaker 2: you don't.
Speaker 3: Night flirts, n I t e blirts.
Speaker 2: Well, uh, JUNI enjoy your brisket sandwiches. You've earned them.
Speaker 2: And uh I will, I will, I will, uh I
Speaker 2: will pray for you.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, thank you. I love you?
Speaker 2: Nice, I bet I I you know well, you know
Speaker 2: it's funny. I went to so I went to a
Speaker 2: v N like a year ago, and I interviewed this
Speaker 2: guy who like he's a straight dude, but like he'll
Speaker 2: do like sex work stuff for gay guys. And it's like,
Speaker 2: I do want I'm like, I don't. I wouldn't do
Speaker 2: it myself. No, I don't think there's anything wrong with it,
Speaker 2: but I I have wondered before. I'm like, how far
Speaker 2: could I get just doing And I wouldn't talk into
Speaker 2: sexy voice. I would just I would do phone sex
Speaker 2: in the voice that I am talking in right now,
Speaker 2: Like how far could I get? Being like I want
Speaker 2: to touch your penis? Yes? That is a that is
Speaker 2: a mighty fine penis. It sounds like you have there, sir,
Speaker 2: Like can I make fifteen dollars doing that? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe one day we'll find a wait if people
Speaker 2: stop listening to this podcast, that's what I'll do. Hey, folks,
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Speaker 2: what's up man?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Is this Gauge?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sweet sweet mon?
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, so Gauge.
Speaker 2: What's up man? How's life?
Speaker 1: Pretty good? Pretty dang good. You know, I made a
Speaker 1: pretty big move recently. I cannot mind. I moved from
Speaker 1: California to Louisiana.
Speaker 2: That's not the thing of the move. I thought you
Speaker 2: were going to say you moved from California to like Uzbeka,
Speaker 2: Stan or something that would be a big California to
Speaker 2: Illinois or wherever. You just said. That's not that bad.
Speaker 2: There's still I mean, every state is the same. I've
Speaker 2: been to. I've been to most of the states. I
Speaker 2: haven't been to all of them, but I've been to
Speaker 2: most of them, and they all are the same. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Well maybe not exactly the same, but they all have
Speaker 2: the same gist. There's a seven eleven, there's people walking around,
Speaker 2: there's I'm sure sure, Okay, Well, gage Go Ahead has.
Speaker 1: Gotten a very happy vibe. Well, you know, being in
Speaker 1: the South, I guess I have not experienced the South
Speaker 1: too much. Anybody on the West coast, I would highly
Speaker 1: suggest just getting out, just traveling. I think that's what
Speaker 1: you gotta do, experience some of the states.
Speaker 2: Where did you move? Why did you move from California
Speaker 2: to Louisiana.
Speaker 1: We can get oh, we can get pretty deep into it,
Speaker 1: but uh, I'll just give you the gist of it.
Speaker 1: I was just paying a lot in a rent. As
Speaker 1: soon as I turned eighteen. My brother was having me
Speaker 1: paid like a thousand a month, and I was like
Speaker 1: covering everything. We're talking rent, electricity. But during that year,
Speaker 1: like to two years, there was like on and off
Speaker 1: where I didn't have wife. During the summer, I didn't
Speaker 1: have a c And what really happened, what really went down,
Speaker 1: is one year my brother got a girlfriend right, completely,
Speaker 1: like completely blindsided me and decided to go on a
Speaker 1: trip to like Las Vegas with his girlfriend. And they
Speaker 1: went and they got married, and like when he came home,
Speaker 1: he's like, Hey, this is your new sister in law.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what what in the world? Like the
Speaker 1: whole the whole world kind of got turned upside down.
Speaker 1: She was living with us for a couple of years,
Speaker 1: so it was as, wow, but do you not like
Speaker 1: this person? Well, she just she was so new in
Speaker 1: my life, you know, she wasn't She like came in
Speaker 1: my life for like a week and then she was
Speaker 1: permanently there. She was very childish. She had like a
Speaker 1: lot of uh, what's the word, just childish behaviors. You know.
Speaker 1: She she wouldn't talk to me that much. It was
Speaker 1: very strange. But I'm gonna ge I'm gonna cut down.
Speaker 1: This is gonna get real serious, because I don't think
Speaker 1: I've heard anyone speak about this. But what happened was
Speaker 1: my brother and his girlfriend they had a child together,
Speaker 1: and they went through the whole thing, right, having a child,
Speaker 1: staying up late, changing diapers, arguing all night, like arguing
Speaker 1: and yelling with the baby in their hands type shit.
Speaker 1: So it got bad. And what happened one night was
Speaker 1: I was off at a friend's house. I came home.
Speaker 1: I pull up into my driveway and there's like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm getting like shakiness in my voice. There's like two
Speaker 1: cop cars in front of my driveway. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck's going on. They're like, hey, you need to
Speaker 1: call your brother. You need to call someone. You don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on. I'm like, no, no idea.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: Call my brother. He talk to me on the phone.
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, man, I'm really sorry you got to
Speaker 1: hear this, but your little sister just passed away. Like
Speaker 1: I'm at the hospital right now with Rose. We're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what happened. And I'm just completely blowed away.
Speaker 1: I like pull over the side of the road, like
Speaker 1: breathing heavy. I'm just like whoa, Like, this is my
Speaker 1: brother's first kid, and I was shit. I was one
Speaker 1: of my twenty years so I was like nineteen, So
Speaker 1: it was just heavy on me. And so I stayed
Speaker 1: with my other brother who lived in San Diego also
Speaker 1: for a minute. I'm just a week just to give
Speaker 1: him some space.
Speaker 2: The whole hold on when when one second here man,
Speaker 2: you said your your your niece passed away. When you
Speaker 2: said little sister, you mean was it your your niece?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm my niece.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry to hear that. That's that's wild, man.
Speaker 2: Do you do you know what happened?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: It was SID Sudden infant death syndrome.
Speaker 5: It's just.
Speaker 1: Yeah, something where she might have choked on the blanket
Speaker 1: or on spit or something.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it was one of those just random horrific
Speaker 1: accidents that happened mm hm. And so yeah, I was
Speaker 1: living with my other brother for a week and I
Speaker 1: had to take some time off. Once I came back,
Speaker 1: him and his wife there's like a I don't know
Speaker 1: the whole thing, but there's like a rate of divorce
Speaker 1: that happens when the baby passens away. It's just they're
Speaker 1: not they're either going to stay together they're not. And
Speaker 1: so they decided to split up, and it was it
Speaker 1: was so hard on my brother. He was like such
Speaker 1: a strong it's like, you know that cliche of a
Speaker 1: man who never shows his feelings, who always is very
Speaker 1: it's the word here, he's closed. Yeahs very mechanical. He
Speaker 1: likes to think things in a logical way. That's what
Speaker 1: I was wenting before. He's very logical, so like when
Speaker 1: feelings are involved, he's very closed off. He doesn't open up.
Speaker 1: So that was like having cry in my arms as
Speaker 1: I held him, Like it just it shook me because
Speaker 1: he was always my rock and seeing my rock like
Speaker 1: waiver and it was hard. But dude, that was me
Speaker 1: in the crazy Like that was one of the crazier parts.
Speaker 1: Like also while they were in Las Vegas, I had
Speaker 1: to bail him out of jail. I had to pay
Speaker 1: like five hundred dollars to a bail court.
Speaker 2: It sounds as though to me that I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: I'm very sorry to hear what happened to your brother.
Speaker 2: But it does sound as though to me that that
Speaker 2: the relationship between them two uh dissipating. Sounds like it
Speaker 2: was for the best if they were fighting all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely was for the best. But it was
Speaker 1: one of those things. It affected me when I didn't
Speaker 1: think it would, and I kept telling myself that just
Speaker 1: doesn't affect me. I'm strong, you know, that's not my relationship.
Speaker 1: But when when they're arguing every night and like he
Speaker 1: would he would get like violent, but he never like
Speaker 1: would hit her. He would like push her maybe like
Speaker 1: for some reason, lay on top of her, like take
Speaker 1: her keys. Like one time. He's a mechanic, right, so
Speaker 1: he took off the wheel off her car so she
Speaker 1: couldn't leave the house. Like just like really weird kind
Speaker 1: of messed up shit that like it kind of doesn't
Speaker 1: see messed up, but it is.
Speaker 2: Kind of fucked.
Speaker 3: Ugh.
Speaker 2: Isn't that like false? That's like false imprisonment, right?
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well anyway, I'm not a lawyer, Gecko, I'm a gecko.
Speaker 2: Get go, So gauge you, I mean, your brother is
Speaker 2: in this crazy toxic relationship, this horrible thing happens, and
Speaker 2: then you you're like, I'm just I got to just
Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here and move somewhere else. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the family in Louisiana in New Orleans, actually they
Speaker 1: I helped them move here two years prior to this
Speaker 1: all happening because they're living in San Diego too, but
Speaker 1: it's so expensive in California right now. It's a gas prices,
Speaker 1: property taxes and all that. So they moved out here
Speaker 1: and they have like a nice like two story house
Speaker 1: and pond and you know, backyard and stuff, and like
Speaker 1: while they were moving, they kept trying to ask me
Speaker 1: because I've always been moving around between my brothers and
Speaker 1: living with like other people, that they're like, hey, you
Speaker 1: should come live with us, like we have a family
Speaker 1: already because they have adopted family. They took me in
Speaker 1: and it's been it's been really nice. I mean having
Speaker 1: to work straight from moving has been a little tough
Speaker 1: because I had to start this construction job like a
Speaker 1: week in. But it's really good money. I'm making twenty
Speaker 1: dollars an hour and I'm working five days a week,
Speaker 1: so I can't complain. Really, that's a lot better than
Speaker 1: what other people have out here.
Speaker 2: So all right, so you moved from California to Louisiana.
Speaker 2: You got your construction site job. Do you have any
Speaker 2: friends out there? Like what do you or do you
Speaker 2: have a good community?
Speaker 1: No? Not really, I don't have any friends because I
Speaker 1: just haven't built anything. I haven't gone to any school.
Speaker 1: All the guys i'm working with you like thirty forties, fifties,
Speaker 1: you know, construction job guys. So I'm just kind of
Speaker 1: loaning it. I got some family coming over for Christmas
Speaker 1: in a little bit. But other than that, I think
Speaker 1: it's just been a just kind of loaning it.
Speaker 2: Why'd you pick Louisiana of all places in the entire world, honey?
Speaker 1: To many people are telling me that it's just because
Speaker 1: I didn't have to pay rent. I don't have to
Speaker 1: pay rent. Mom love with them right now?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So you're living with your you're living
Speaker 2: with your extended family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're they're like adopted family, right they adopted. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not related to them at all through blood.
Speaker 2: Okay? Are you?
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 2: Are you? Do you? What are your What are your
Speaker 2: plans moving forward? Are you gonna leave Louisiana?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I haven't. I wanted to try it out, you know.
Speaker 1: I think maybe I feel like, if you're gonna stay
Speaker 1: here anywhere, or stay any place, you got to at
Speaker 1: least be there for a year or two. But I'm
Speaker 1: sure I heard the heat is intolerable sometimes and you're
Speaker 1: just sweating, like it's that different type of stuff that
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've experienced that, gig, but I
Speaker 1: got to experience a little bit when I came out
Speaker 1: here in July. It was hot. You can't escape you,
Speaker 1: you can get wet, but it still cleans back on you.
Speaker 2: So do you still Are you still in contact with
Speaker 2: your brother at all? Do you still talk to him?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I cut off communication just because it was just too much.
Speaker 1: It was I just didn't feel like it. I just didn't.
Speaker 1: I felt like he could contact me if he if
Speaker 1: he wanted to, you know, but you know, I got
Speaker 1: a crazier one for his Geck wanted to tell you
Speaker 1: for a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh this is like, wait, this isn't
Speaker 2: even what you wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was sort of what I want to
Speaker 1: talk about, but this is what I've originally been calling for.
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: So I'm originally from South Dakota. I was born on
Speaker 1: the reservation as a little Native American boy. My last name,
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone cares. My last name is bad
Speaker 1: heart bull. So it's like three words. And my whole
Speaker 1: life ever once been like, oh you have such a
Speaker 1: cool last name, blah blah blah. And so let's see,
Speaker 1: in South Dakota, I was living with my mom and dad, right.
Speaker 1: My dad, he was just kind of like an alcoholic
Speaker 1: Native American guy, like he didn't have a real job,
Speaker 1: and it got to the point where he was like
Speaker 1: abusing my mom too much, to where my mom said, Okay,
Speaker 1: I got to get my little boy out of here.
Speaker 1: So she decided to take a bus from South Dakota
Speaker 1: all the way down to San Diego. And that story
Speaker 1: was like, well, it wasn't too crazy, but we just
Speaker 1: lost our stuff halfway in Colorado. We're homeless for like
Speaker 1: a week, and then a really really nice samaritan actually
Speaker 1: with food stamps. He got us food and the rest
Speaker 1: of our ticket back to California. But I lost my
Speaker 1: game boy on the way, so that kind of sucks.
Speaker 1: But on the way once we got to California's right.
Speaker 1: I didn't know this, but I had other brothers growing up.
Speaker 1: I was just me and my mom my dad, and
Speaker 1: I didn't know. But once we got there, my mom
Speaker 1: had to take a cab from downtown San Diego to
Speaker 1: like Inland. It's like one hundred dollars cab there. And
Speaker 1: we show up to the house and my brother's not there,
Speaker 1: but all his roommates are, and his roommates had never
Speaker 1: met my mom. Don't know what I look like and
Speaker 1: they're just they're like confused as ship. So they called
Speaker 1: the cops, and the cops get there, and my mom
Speaker 1: she's schizophrenic and diabetic, and when we lost all our stuff,
Speaker 1: she also lost all her medication, so she was kind
Speaker 1: of in and out with episodes. She had like schizophrenic episodes,
Speaker 1: and she just didn't know where she was or I
Speaker 1: don't even know how we got there, to be honest,
Speaker 1: but I ended up falling asleep in the back of
Speaker 1: that cop car because I was just so tired. I
Speaker 1: had no I had flip flop songs, some shorts and
Speaker 1: tank top and I woke up and then we were
Speaker 1: in the hospital with my mom because she was getting medication.
Speaker 1: That's when my brother for the first time. And so
Speaker 1: my brother, his name is Nate. He he's the one
Speaker 1: who ended up getting custody of me once my mom
Speaker 1: left because he saw my mom and he knew that
Speaker 1: she couldn't take care of me. So it was just
Speaker 1: that time. Uh GEK, I love you, man, might have.
Speaker 2: Well gage if you got to go, you gotta go.
Speaker 2: Thanks for telling us about all this stuff, and uh,
Speaker 2: good luck to you in the future. Man. I'm sorry
Speaker 2: that your life has been filled with so much crazy
Speaker 2: stuff at such a young age. But you know, keep
Speaker 2: keep on gak. You seem like a nice, sweet guy.
Speaker 2: I think hopefully you've you've paid your metaphysical dues to
Speaker 2: this universe and it'll reward you at some point. I
Speaker 2: think it will.
Speaker 1: I hope, so, gek, I sure, hope. So I'm going
Speaker 1: to keep keep on going, you know, try to spread
Speaker 1: the positivity and keep going. Really, that's all you could do. Man,
Speaker 1: Take every day as another chance to keep fighting for
Speaker 1: what's right.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll take care gage, Thank.
Speaker 1: You, Thank you again. I'm going.
Speaker 4: Yuck.
Speaker 2: Hey, who's this, Chuck? How are you, Chuck? What's going on?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: How you doing? I'm good?
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm actually doing pretty okay right now? Man? What'd you
Speaker 2: want to talk about today?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I wanted to talk about how I got a
Speaker 4: guy out of jail that was wrongly convicted a murder.
Speaker 2: Wow? What are you a how'd you do that? What
Speaker 2: are you? Are you a a cop? Are you a lawyer?
Speaker 2: Are you dude?
Speaker 4: Listen to this? I was I was an intern. It
Speaker 4: was it was literally it was literally crazy. I was
Speaker 4: an intern.
Speaker 2: Tell me more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, So I was interning at this law firm.
Speaker 4: Law firmsuse I thought I wanted to be a lawyer, right,
Speaker 4: and they just had me to do like paperwork and
Speaker 4: ship And then one day some dude sent in a
Speaker 4: letter about how he was in jail for this murder
Speaker 4: he didn't commit, and they took the case on pro
Speaker 4: bono and we were like, yeah, bro, you're here, so
Speaker 4: like you might as well help out with the case.
Speaker 4: And I was like, I was like okay, cool. So yeah,
Speaker 4: like had to like meet this dude in prison and
Speaker 4: like like all the autopsy pictures and like all this
Speaker 4: crazy shit.
Speaker 2: Wow. Well, so he was wrongly accused of murder.
Speaker 4: Yeah, mmm dude. So so, like the story is that
Speaker 4: they robbed the taco bell and then like murdered this woman,
Speaker 4: but it was the guy that was with him, but
Speaker 4: the police department was corrupt in the lady who was
Speaker 4: interrogating the guy who actually did it sucked the dude's
Speaker 4: dick in the interrogation room. And then yeah, and then
Speaker 4: the police department didn't want to like have that like
Speaker 4: have like that press out, so they like convicted the
Speaker 4: guy who was wrongly prisoned, so like that pressed and
Speaker 4: get out.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Okay, who's sucked who's dick in the
Speaker 2: interrogation room?
Speaker 4: All right, Like the interrogator sucked the person who's like,
Speaker 4: who actually did it? He confessed the interrogation room. The
Speaker 4: interrogator said, this is the last piece of aster you're
Speaker 4: ever going to get. Sucked his dick and it was
Speaker 4: the granddaughter of like the chief of police.
Speaker 2: Dude, you're bullsh there's no way that, no, dude, straight up.
Speaker 4: So, like they convicted the guy who actually went to jail,
Speaker 4: which was his buddy that was like with him.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'm gonna try to all right, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna explain this from how I understand it. So a
Speaker 2: guy murders someone, right, and then he gets interrogated and
Speaker 2: the interrogator says, you're going to jail, and this is
Speaker 2: the last piece of ass you're going to get, and
Speaker 2: then sucks his dick. And then because the police didn't
Speaker 2: want the press of that coming out, they let the
Speaker 2: guy go and imprisoned someone else.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it was the interrogator was the police chief's daughter.
Speaker 4: And it was like obviously when I was working on it,
Speaker 4: it was like fifteen. It was like fifteen twenty years,
Speaker 4: so it was all like really shitty recordings.
Speaker 2: And what's happened in like the two thousands?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so the other recordings are really bad and
Speaker 4: really chopping, and the recordings got put into evidence like
Speaker 4: four days after they were recorded, so they alously altered
Speaker 4: it so you couldn't hear anything with the interrogation.
Speaker 2: Well god, damn, yeah, it was cool.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was it was cool.
Speaker 2: Okay, now, liked did it ever come out? Did the
Speaker 2: story ever come out?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 4: What I mean once he got out, he was kind
Speaker 4: of just like, so he had a daughter, so he's
Speaker 4: in jail for twenty years, so I just want to
Speaker 4: use like an email, like how to make an email?
Speaker 2: And okay, well what happened to the guy who got
Speaker 2: a blowjob? Is? Did he go to jail?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: Nothing, because he was already tried. I mean from what
Speaker 4: I understand and like I said, as an intern, but yeah,
Speaker 4: he didn't go to jokes didn't have any DNA evidence
Speaker 4: because they didn't have anything on them because obviously they
Speaker 4: altered the voice recordings and shit.
Speaker 2: That's fucking bizarre, man. Dude's wow, what a summer internship, dude?
Speaker 4: I literally yeah, it was like nineteen, like doing all
Speaker 4: this crazy shit. They didn't know what I was doing.
Speaker 2: What are you doing now?
Speaker 4: I work in sales now, okay, I have I'm.
Speaker 2: Still having trouble and I don't I know people. I know.
Speaker 2: I know people say all kinds of outlandish things on here,
Speaker 2: and I typically believe them, but this one, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Well I would I don't think you would lie to me.
Speaker 4: Well hear me out, So yeah, dude, the whole thing
Speaker 4: was crazy, But the part about like the interrogator and
Speaker 4: stuff like, the issue is too like everyone's dead now,
Speaker 4: Like the chief of fleets is dead, the cops that
Speaker 4: arrested them as they're dead, so like there's not really
Speaker 4: any beside some choppy voice recordings and what she said.
Speaker 4: There's not really any like any way to prove it,
Speaker 4: which is why he's not in jail.
Speaker 2: Well, ship man, what do you sell now?
Speaker 4: I'd sell TV ads?
Speaker 2: You sell tv ads. It's so much more boring than
Speaker 2: what you just subscribed to.
Speaker 4: Me, dude, so much more boring.
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 2: Do you like life?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean it's cool. I saw you with Charlotte. That
Speaker 4: was pretty lit.
Speaker 2: Oh that that was fun. Yeah, that wasn't it. That
Speaker 2: was a good time. Oh, I'm so happy that everyone.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy that every the callers are organically mentioning
Speaker 2: my live shows so that I can get people to
Speaker 2: buy tickets to them. That's cool, man, that's cool. How
Speaker 2: am I bro? I'm uh, I'm okay, I'm okay, I'm fine.
Speaker 2: I'm like a little uh.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel weird. I feel weird airing my shit. It's
Speaker 2: so weird because, like I I've been thinking about this
Speaker 2: a lot. I feel it makes me like when I
Speaker 2: talk about things that are wrong that are going on
Speaker 2: with me in my personal life, I am like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm like putting myself out there and maybe I'll regret
Speaker 2: that one day, But I don't like part of me
Speaker 2: to my core is like I should be open about
Speaker 2: my life, Like what do I have to who gives shit?
Speaker 3: So what?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Uh, you know what am I So people know that
Speaker 2: I'm a little sad? You know what? Does that affect me? Negative?
Speaker 2: Or people can use that against me? I don't know
Speaker 2: what's the point of hiding go? Or maybe it just
Speaker 2: feels weird to me to like use this podcast as
Speaker 2: my personal therapy. But maybe that's helpful to people who
Speaker 2: are listening, and that's a worthwhile reason to do it.
Speaker 2: So so I don't know, I'm also I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 2: neurotic about it, but how many i'm you know, I
Speaker 2: think I'm being a baby, to be honest, I think
Speaker 2: I think when all's said and done, I was on
Speaker 2: Reddit yesterday, I was like really depressed yesterday and then
Speaker 2: I went on Reddit and I saw this post about
Speaker 2: this this guy who just got put in a wheelchair,
Speaker 2: and I was reading it and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm fine, you know what I mean being a baby, right, Like,
Speaker 2: nothing close to any of the worst possible things that
Speaker 2: could happen to me, like like a serious injury or
Speaker 2: death of the family or or or sickness has happened
Speaker 2: to me. And yeah, I'm fine whatever. You know, I
Speaker 2: think I'm being a baby.
Speaker 4: I mean, I've seen a lot of really happy people
Speaker 4: in wheelchairs.
Speaker 2: I guess, so, yeah, I guess. I guess you can
Speaker 2: still play basketball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, fall out, do some tricks. Yeah, dude, I mean
Speaker 4: you're allowed to be bummed out?
Speaker 2: What does that mean?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 2: I don't like when people say, like, like when people say,
Speaker 2: like it's okay to be sad, Like, what is that?
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean any What does that it's okay to
Speaker 2: be sad and that means nothing.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, like, you don't have to compare yourself, like
Speaker 4: just because you're on a podcast like helping people out,
Speaker 4: you don't have to like be like all this person,
Speaker 4: is it worse than me? I'm not allowed to be
Speaker 4: bummed out?
Speaker 2: No, No, but that's not It's not about the reason
Speaker 2: I don't like the phrase it's okay to be sad
Speaker 2: or like, because it's not about like, there's nothing I
Speaker 2: don't I'm not. I don't need permission from anyone to
Speaker 2: do any to do to feel feelings like I'm allowed
Speaker 2: to be allowed by by what force, by what person?
Speaker 2: By There's no I don't need permission to feel my feelings.
Speaker 2: There's no organization or entity that I need a stamp
Speaker 2: of approval on my emotions for. That's not what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about. I'm talking like when I talk about like, oh,
Speaker 2: there's a kids dying in the streets and people in
Speaker 2: wheelchairs and stuff, that's me thinking, like it's me trying
Speaker 2: to change my perspective and be grateful for the things
Speaker 2: in my life that are going well, because that's all
Speaker 2: you all you fucking have really is your perspective. Like
Speaker 2: the mind can make a hell out of of heaven
Speaker 2: and a heaven out of hell, right, because like you
Speaker 2: could be you could be living a really awesome life.
Speaker 2: I'm living a really on paper cool life, but I'm
Speaker 2: my perspective and my brain is like just downer, yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's that's that's a function of my own perspective.
Speaker 2: And you could be you could have uh a shittier
Speaker 2: you can be kind of a shitty life. I've talked
Speaker 2: to people who have like kind of shitty lives, but
Speaker 2: there they are just happy to be like alive at all.
Speaker 2: Like their perspective and their brain is good, and so
Speaker 2: that's what informs their state of being more than anything else.
Speaker 2: And so like I just I hate I hate the
Speaker 2: whole you're allowed to be. That doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: It's like when people, well, I like, I've been thinking
Speaker 2: about this a lot because this is this is another
Speaker 2: Reddit thing, like I read am I the Asshole? You
Speaker 2: know you ever read am I the Asshole? Like people
Speaker 2: people talk about like, oh, you're valid in your feelings, right,
Speaker 2: I guess I get I guess I get what that means, right,
Speaker 2: You're saying like like you're saying like according to the
Speaker 2: normal baseline of what is considered rational by society and
Speaker 2: rational by the opinion of other sane human beings. Am
Speaker 2: I rational in my feelings? I you know that makes sense?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: That makes sense when I think about it like that.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's maybe that's what allowed to be said or okay,
Speaker 2: to feel the way means, But I still it still
Speaker 2: just makes me think of like some kind of like
Speaker 2: authority or something that I'm trying to appeal to, which
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could be worse. I mean, you could be
Speaker 4: imprisoned for murder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, while the other guy gets a blowjob and runs away.
Speaker 2: I deal man, But yeah, I guess that's time. I
Speaker 2: feel good right now because I'm I'm dressed kind of
Speaker 2: I'm in a gecko, sup. But I'm alive and awake
Speaker 2: and speaking words, and I'm not Yes, I woke up
Speaker 2: at okay, but this is the last I'm gonna talk
Speaker 2: about myself, and then we'll take another call. But this
Speaker 2: I woke up it in the middle of the night
Speaker 2: yesterday and went to the bodega down the street from me,
Speaker 2: and I got a you Who. And I was like
Speaker 2: a crack addict. I like, got a you Who. And
Speaker 2: then I went back and I drank it outside of
Speaker 2: the bodega, and then I just would I kept going
Speaker 2: in the bodega and back out, like I went in
Speaker 2: and out and in and out, just like looking at
Speaker 2: the treats and being like, should I get another tree?
Speaker 2: And I didn't get another you Who, but I wanted one.
Speaker 2: And I stayed up until five o'clock in the morning
Speaker 2: watching Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. And so that's how
Speaker 2: I'm doing. That's so that's my answer to your question.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: Yeah? You judge yourself by your intent and everybody else
Speaker 4: by their actions.
Speaker 2: Ah yeah, Yeah, that's true. That's a very true one.
Speaker 2: I could go on a whole rant about that, but
Speaker 2: I won't. We'll save it for another call. Take care
Speaker 2: of buddy. Thank you very much for calling.
Speaker 6: Hello.
Speaker 2: Hi, Who is this?
Speaker 6: This is Wendy.
Speaker 2: How old are you? Wendy?
Speaker 6: I am twenty one?
Speaker 2: Rock and roll Wendy, Wendy, Wendy, what's going on? Wendy?
Speaker 2: How's life.
Speaker 6: Well, it's been a bit stressful.
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I've been hiding my relationship with
Speaker 6: my boyfriend from my dad for almost five years, and
Speaker 6: I'm afraid to tell him.
Speaker 2: Why have you been hiding this relationship?
Speaker 6: Well, my dad he's kind of like he's very, very strict,
Speaker 6: and well, he doesn't let us go out anywhere. It
Speaker 6: all started when I'm sorry, I'm a bit nervous.
Speaker 2: No, don't worry about it.
Speaker 6: But when I was in high school in twenty seventeen,
Speaker 6: I met this guy and we hit it off really well,
Speaker 6: and I started texting him, I started talking, and then
Speaker 6: in twenty nineteen he asked me to be his girlfriend.
Speaker 6: So I said yes, And he lives an hour away
Speaker 6: from me, and I used to sneak out, like.
Speaker 2: Can I ask how old this guy was.
Speaker 6: At the time. When I was sixteen, he was eighteen.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's not the big of a deal. Okay. And
Speaker 2: then you've been keeping this from your dad because he's strict.
Speaker 6: Yes, and he's also like very verbally abusive.
Speaker 2: Do you live with him?
Speaker 6: No, But he's in the process of moving out and
Speaker 6: I am almost done with my college. I just have
Speaker 6: a year in nine months left, and I'm afraid if
Speaker 6: I tell my dad that, hey, I'm moving out, you know,
Speaker 6: he's going to hold a judge on me and he's
Speaker 6: not going to want to communicate with me anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, well listen, okay, So you you're you're finishing up
Speaker 2: college very soon? You said yes, okay, And do you
Speaker 2: have a job lined up? Do you have a way
Speaker 2: to financially support yourself? If I sound like da.
Speaker 6: For now, I only I work out a hotel. I'm
Speaker 6: a housekeeper.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, Okay, So you have the means to move
Speaker 2: out of your dad's house.
Speaker 6: Yes, I do, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Okay, And uh look, here's the thing. If if you're
Speaker 2: an adult and you're twenty one and you're living with
Speaker 2: your dad is making you your life suck. I see
Speaker 2: why you would want to move. I mean, you're afraid
Speaker 2: that he that he won't want to talk to you
Speaker 2: anymore if you move.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because there was this thing happened between my sister
Speaker 6: and him. They had some kind of conflict. She's nineteen,
Speaker 6: and I guess I had like this huge argument and
Speaker 6: my sister literally just walked out. Okay, and then like kirk,
Speaker 6: communication off with her.
Speaker 2: I don't know your dad. I'm not gonna pretend like
Speaker 2: I know you're dead, But like, your parents are not
Speaker 2: allowed to possess you, especially when you're an adult. They're
Speaker 2: not allowed to possess you. They're not allowed to get
Speaker 2: you know. It's weird for them to get upset and
Speaker 2: weird when you go out and try to live your life.
Speaker 2: I don't know why they do that. I don't know
Speaker 2: why your dad's the way he is. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: pretend like I know about any of this shit. But
Speaker 2: like you know, your dad wanting to not talk to
Speaker 2: you because you are no longer under his control financially
Speaker 2: and living in his house is his problem, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, you, as an adult with a job, are
Speaker 2: endowed with the privilege of living your own fucking life,
Speaker 2: you know. And I'm not going to tell you what
Speaker 2: to do, Wendy, but you know, I think in general
Speaker 2: it's probably a good idea to take advantage of that
Speaker 2: endowment and go live your own life.
Speaker 6: What if he says no, will I just keep my
Speaker 6: relationship a secret?
Speaker 2: What if your dad says no to you moving out?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you want him to hold I don't have to
Speaker 6: hold a grudge against me. I want him to be
Speaker 6: at my wedding.
Speaker 2: If we ever get married. Wendy, your dad can't say
Speaker 2: no to you moving out. You're an adult.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear about this, but uh, you know
Speaker 2: I again, I you know, dude, I wish you. I
Speaker 2: wish you luck in in trying to, you know, take
Speaker 2: control of your own life. Should I just like to
Speaker 2: tell him the truth?
Speaker 6: Yeah, like everything at once? Okay, Dad, I mean I've
Speaker 6: been hiding for your relationship, and I'm gonna move out.
Speaker 2: These these are all good. These are good things, though, Wendy.
Speaker 2: And it's your dad's problem if he doesn't want to
Speaker 2: be happy for you. You're an adult, you have a job,
Speaker 2: you have a relationship that makes you happy, and you're
Speaker 2: gonna go out and be an independent human being. These
Speaker 2: are all good things, Wendy. I don't want you to
Speaker 2: be looking at them as bad. These are all good things.
Speaker 2: I'm very It makes me very sorry to hear that
Speaker 2: your dad has caused you to frame them as bad.
Speaker 2: But you you and you know you can't control what
Speaker 2: other people do. But you know, at a certain point,
Speaker 2: I think you just kind of stand up to him.
Speaker 2: And be like, you know, you're you. You gotta go
Speaker 2: live your own life, Wendy. I'm like, these are these
Speaker 2: are not bad things, these are not shameful things.
Speaker 6: You're right, I'm just trying tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Fuck it, Okay, okay, good luck. And it'll probably be
Speaker 2: difficult at the beginning, but you know, as you get older,
Speaker 2: I think it'll be easier and you'll be glad you did.
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, get go. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Of course, have a good night, Wendy.
Speaker 6: Thank you. Bye.
Speaker 1: Never goes all the line taking your phone calls every night,
Speaker 1: everything goes to side. You're teaching you cloud every life.
Speaker 2: That is not really an expert