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Speaker 1: Hello, Hi.

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Speaker 2: What is your name? J Juniper? What's up, Juniper? It's

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Speaker 2: the Gecko guy.

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Speaker 3: Holy shit, holy shit, Oh my god, I'm literally getting

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Speaker 3: fucking brisket sandwiches.

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Speaker 2: You're getting brisket sandwiches. I I I'm in my head.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you're I can I can tell that. Uh.

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Speaker 2: The excitement that I sense from you over the phone

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Speaker 2: is significantly It's significantly more related to the brisket sandwiches

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Speaker 2: than it is to being on this phone call right now.

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Speaker 2: And I am with you on that. I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 2: vicariously excited about the brisket sandwiches.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: No, Juniper, what's going on? Dude?

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Speaker 3: Well, right now I can't find my husband's credit card.

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Speaker 2: Your husband? Why is your husband paying for the brisket sandwiches?

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Speaker 3: Because he's nice, that's good.

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Speaker 2: That's a good reason.

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Speaker 3: He's like, basically my sugardy. That's he's your brisket daddy,

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Speaker 3: my brisket daddy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, a brisket tatty. That's cool. Damn that fuck. I

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Speaker 2: haven't eaten all day. I gotta maybe I'll get a

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Speaker 2: brisket sandwich.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: No, that's literally why we're getting brisket sandwiches right now.

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Speaker 3: It's because I also haven't eaten all day.

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Speaker 2: That's a that's I feel like you got. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if a brisket sandwich is a good thing. I'm

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Speaker 2: no nutritionists, obviously, but I don't know if a brisket

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Speaker 2: sandwich is a good way to start, right, because I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's gonna knock you on your fucking ass.

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Speaker 3: You're on well, obviously.

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Speaker 2: That's so cool. Uh well June.

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Speaker 3: Jun Juniper, Yeah, juny.

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Speaker 2: Juny, Juny. What's up, Juny? How you doing?

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Speaker 3: I am functional?

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Speaker 2: That's a blessing in today's Yes, well Juniper, it says

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Speaker 2: here you text me you wanted to say. I own

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Speaker 2: a bakery and I work as a phone sex operator

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Speaker 2: while baking cakes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, so I'm literally up until like the ass

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Speaker 3: crack of dawn some days making cakes, right because it's

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Speaker 3: just me. Like I don't have like a staff or anything.

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Speaker 3: It's just me. So I don't know. I just kind

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Speaker 3: of figured one days I feel bad for the dude

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Speaker 3: who's making my sandwiches and getting my type and ship

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Speaker 3: right now, he's just having to here past the phone call.

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Speaker 3: It's fine, but anyway, so yeah, no, I since I'm

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Speaker 3: like up in the odd hours of the night. I

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Speaker 3: was just like, you know, uh, fuck it, we ball

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Speaker 3: let's let's make some extra cash on the side.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 3: I did this in college just for like shits and giggles,

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Speaker 3: and you paid my rent pretty quickly and easily. And

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Speaker 3: now here we are.

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Speaker 2: So you're like, so you're like moaning into a phone

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Speaker 2: while baking a Danish?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dead ass, Like I have a Bluetooth headset, Like

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Speaker 3: I just have a like a I A really, I

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Speaker 3: have like a fancy headset because the HVAC system at

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Speaker 3: the kitchen is really fucking loud, and I'm not about

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Speaker 3: to have like random newtee. Like why is there so

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Speaker 3: much feedback? You know, because it's always like boomers and

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Speaker 3: middle aged people. No, it depends on the day.

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Speaker 2: But so I'm gonna take it. Do you make more

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Speaker 2: money doing the phone sex or the or the baking.

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Speaker 3: Well I only started up doing that again like a

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Speaker 3: week and a half ago, So Jerry still out on that,

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Speaker 3: but I'll I'll up you come back to me in

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Speaker 3: a month.

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Speaker 2: I guess there's not a lot of there's not a

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Speaker 2: lot of overhead. Although I think if you're if you're

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Speaker 2: a phone sex operator, you should be able to write

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Speaker 2: your fucking phone plan off on your taxes.

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Speaker 1: Ship.

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Speaker 3: You're so right, But I'm also on my parents' phone plan.

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Speaker 2: Do they know? Do they know what you're using it for? No?

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Speaker 3: No, they have no idea.

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Speaker 2: That's funny, that's cool man. So you but you own

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Speaker 2: your own bakery. How'd you get into doing that? That's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been doing that for a minute now, So I, uh,

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Speaker 3: how did I get into this? I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: would just like I always really like baking, and I'm

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Speaker 3: with frosting. And I also so have a full time

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Speaker 3: job that I fucking hate. So you know, so you.

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Speaker 2: Have three gigs. You're doing the phone sex, you're doing

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Speaker 2: the baking, and you have another job. What's your other job?

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Speaker 3: I work in it?

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, lots of two phone call related pursuits.

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Speaker 3: Literally, No. I was like, I might as well do

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Speaker 3: a job that doesn't make me want to kill myself

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day and then one that's

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Speaker 3: like way more entertaining.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever forget to turn off the phone sex

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Speaker 2: voice when somebody calls you about their computer not turning on.

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Speaker 3: I have not run into that issue at this point,

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Speaker 3: but I do occasionally forget to answer the call as

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Speaker 3: my IT persona whenever I'm taking calls about the bakery.

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Speaker 2: Right right, Oh, I thought, okay, I thought you were

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Speaker 2: going to be like you use your IT persona in

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Speaker 2: the phone sex because that would also be funny.

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Speaker 3: No, oh man, oh man, that would not go well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're you're that you're doing a whole fucking

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Speaker 2: hell of a lot. Man, that's three get and so

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Speaker 2: you how did you go about like starting this bakery,

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Speaker 2: Like is it a brick and mortar thing, Like do

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Speaker 2: in a in a in a place.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the brick and mortar place. Uh started? So I

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Speaker 3: actually moved into it in like August. I was baking

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Speaker 3: out of my house for years. It sucks. It was messy.

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Speaker 3: Sorry if you heard that, I was thinking.

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Speaker 2: That that's the sound. That's the sound of a bag

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Speaker 2: of brisket sandwich is crumbling.

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Speaker 3: That is the sound of the brisket sandwiches. Hold on, no,

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Speaker 3: Now we're gonna traverse the parking lot and it's cold

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Speaker 3: and windy. And shitty.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, nice man? Do you so like? Is the

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Is that where the real passion lies?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I am a creative girly. I okay, we're good.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, you didn't don't please, don't tell me.

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Speaker 2: I dropped one of the sandwiches.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I almost lost there we go. No, I

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Speaker 2: So we're good now, okay, So what is your bake?

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Speaker 2: Your bakery? What's the like big magnum opus dish? What

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Speaker 2: are you guys known for?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 3: I mostly just do cakes, but everything I make is

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Speaker 3: then I'll do like I don't know. I've been doing

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Speaker 3: But you know, gluten free, soy free, sugar free, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm hmm. Have you ever thought about like erotic

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Speaker 2: cakes that could be like mixing of your two niches.

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Speaker 3: I have done a few cakes that are not safe

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Speaker 3: for work, for sure, I love those. Those are my favorites.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm, well that's cool. Mm hmmm. Is there any

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Speaker 2: thing there's like? I have so many? This is so

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Speaker 2: an interesting trifecta of a life that you're living. Are

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Speaker 2: you happy? Are you enjoying life? Or do you not?

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Speaker 2: You mentioned not wanting to kill yourself? Or how are

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're doing great. I'm on Hellazo loft and you know,

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Speaker 3: I also have a mood stabilizer because I have bipolar disorder.

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Speaker 3: So I'm fu's cool.

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Speaker 2: This is I don't know why I'm sharing this, but

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Speaker 2: I was. I was thinking today. I was like, dude,

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Speaker 2: if I died, I don't it would take like, I

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Speaker 2: like find me rip let's go back to talking about cakes.

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Speaker 3: I feel like people would be like, yo, why the

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Speaker 3: fuck is the gag now? Uh? Streaming? And they would

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Speaker 2: You know, does the chat anyone in the chat have

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Speaker 2: any questions for for for JUNI yeah, someone asks how

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Speaker 2: do you have three jobs and be neuro divergent. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if that's offensive, but I think I think

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Speaker 2: I'm impressed.

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Speaker 3: Way yeah, no, Well, I'm also a wedding DJ.

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Speaker 2: So what you're also how many? How many fucking jobs

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Speaker 2: do you have? You're like a renaissance Lady of Missouri.

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Speaker 3: Animal model, part time bonus.

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Speaker 2: You're a model, wedding DJ, phone sex operator baker, I

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Speaker 2: T person. Yes, what does your husband think of the

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Speaker 3: I didn't care?

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Speaker 2: What is your best.

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Speaker 3: But he gets annoyed mostly because the calls will like

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Speaker 3: He'll be like, but don't make the moneys, but also

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably thinks. He's probably like, damn, she's on

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Speaker 3: Oh god, I forgot he was waiting on the sandwiches.

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Speaker 2: Not fuck him. Let's keep doing that. What's your best

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Speaker 2: phone call story? That's what someone asked, best or strangest.

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Speaker 3: Strangest you know I've had. I'm still thinking about this

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Speaker 3: you not. The call like ended almost as fast as

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Speaker 3: you like my tits and that that was it. Like

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Speaker 3: every other day to him just sending me money and

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Speaker 3: he'll be like, I hope you have a good day.

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Speaker 3: Here's five bucks.

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Speaker 2: That's cool. Damn you all? Wait so you you you

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Speaker 2: just you all you hit him with was uh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you like my tits? And that did the job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, literally, that's pretty cool. It was the most bizarre thing.

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Speaker 3: I loved it. But also just.

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Speaker 2: Like, has anyone from real life called your sex line.

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Speaker 3: Not that I know of, they need.

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Speaker 2: A big name, what is the most common fantasy from

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Speaker 3: I haven't really had any, like, I guess the common

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Is this Gauge?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sweet sweet mon?

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Speaker 1: one of those things. It affected me when I didn't

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00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: think it would, and I kept telling myself that just

438
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: doesn't affect me. I'm strong, you know, that's not my relationship.

439
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 1: But when when they're arguing every night and like he

440
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: would he would get like violent, but he never like

441
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: would hit her. He would like push her maybe like

442
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: for some reason, lay on top of her, like take

443
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: her keys. Like one time. He's a mechanic, right, so

444
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: he took off the wheel off her car so she

445
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: couldn't leave the house. Like just like really weird kind

446
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: of messed up shit that like it kind of doesn't

447
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: see messed up, but it is.

448
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 2: Kind of fucked.

449
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 3: Ugh.

450
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 2: Isn't that like false? That's like false imprisonment, right?

451
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I don't know.

452
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: Well anyway, I'm not a lawyer, Gecko, I'm a gecko.

453
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: Get go, So gauge you, I mean, your brother is

454
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: in this crazy toxic relationship, this horrible thing happens, and

455
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 2: then you you're like, I'm just I got to just

456
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here and move somewhere else. Yeah.

457
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: So the family in Louisiana in New Orleans, actually they

458
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: I helped them move here two years prior to this

459
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: all happening because they're living in San Diego too, but

460
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: it's so expensive in California right now. It's a gas prices,

461
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: property taxes and all that. So they moved out here

462
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: and they have like a nice like two story house

463
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: and pond and you know, backyard and stuff, and like

464
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: while they were moving, they kept trying to ask me

465
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: because I've always been moving around between my brothers and

466
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: living with like other people, that they're like, hey, you

467
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: should come live with us, like we have a family

468
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: already because they have adopted family. They took me in

469
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: and it's been it's been really nice. I mean having

470
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: to work straight from moving has been a little tough

471
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: because I had to start this construction job like a

472
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: week in. But it's really good money. I'm making twenty

473
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: dollars an hour and I'm working five days a week,

474
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: so I can't complain. Really, that's a lot better than

475
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: what other people have out here.

476
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 2: So all right, so you moved from California to Louisiana.

477
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 2: You got your construction site job. Do you have any

478
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: friends out there? Like what do you or do you

479
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: have a good community?

480
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: No? Not really, I don't have any friends because I

481
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: just haven't built anything. I haven't gone to any school.

482
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: All the guys i'm working with you like thirty forties, fifties,

483
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: you know, construction job guys. So I'm just kind of

484
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: loaning it. I got some family coming over for Christmas

485
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: in a little bit. But other than that, I think

486
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 1: it's just been a just kind of loaning it.

487
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: Why'd you pick Louisiana of all places in the entire world, honey?

488
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: To many people are telling me that it's just because

489
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: I didn't have to pay rent. I don't have to

490
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: pay rent. Mom love with them right now?

491
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So you're living with your you're living

492
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,479
Speaker 2: with your extended family.

493
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're they're like adopted family, right they adopted. Okay,

494
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: I'm not related to them at all through blood.

495
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: Okay? Are you?

496
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 3: Are you?

497
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 2: Are you? Do you? What are your What are your

498
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: plans moving forward? Are you gonna leave Louisiana?

499
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

500
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: I haven't. I wanted to try it out, you know.

501
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: I think maybe I feel like, if you're gonna stay

502
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: here anywhere, or stay any place, you got to at

503
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: least be there for a year or two. But I'm

504
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: sure I heard the heat is intolerable sometimes and you're

505
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: just sweating, like it's that different type of stuff that

506
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've experienced that, gig, but I

507
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: got to experience a little bit when I came out

508
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: here in July. It was hot. You can't escape you,

509
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: you can get wet, but it still cleans back on you.

510
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: So do you still Are you still in contact with

511
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: your brother at all? Do you still talk to him?

512
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 3: No?

513
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: I cut off communication just because it was just too much.

514
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: It was I just didn't feel like it. I just didn't.

515
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: I felt like he could contact me if he if

516
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,239
Speaker 1: he wanted to, you know, but you know, I got

517
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: a crazier one for his Geck wanted to tell you

518
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: for a while.

519
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh this is like, wait, this isn't

520
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: even what you wanted to talk about.

521
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that was sort of what I want to

522
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: talk about, but this is what I've originally been calling for.

523
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, go ahead.

524
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 3: All right.

525
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: So I'm originally from South Dakota. I was born on

526
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: the reservation as a little Native American boy. My last name,

527
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone cares. My last name is bad

528
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: heart bull. So it's like three words. And my whole

529
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: life ever once been like, oh you have such a

530
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: cool last name, blah blah blah. And so let's see,

531
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: in South Dakota, I was living with my mom and dad, right.

532
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: My dad, he was just kind of like an alcoholic

533
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: Native American guy, like he didn't have a real job,

534
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: and it got to the point where he was like

535
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: abusing my mom too much, to where my mom said, Okay,

536
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: I got to get my little boy out of here.

537
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: So she decided to take a bus from South Dakota

538
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: all the way down to San Diego. And that story

539
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,719
Speaker 1: was like, well, it wasn't too crazy, but we just

540
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: lost our stuff halfway in Colorado. We're homeless for like

541
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: a week, and then a really really nice samaritan actually

542
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: with food stamps. He got us food and the rest

543
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: of our ticket back to California. But I lost my

544
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: game boy on the way, so that kind of sucks.

545
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: But on the way once we got to California's right.

546
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 1: I didn't know this, but I had other brothers growing up.

547
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: I was just me and my mom my dad, and

548
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know. But once we got there, my mom

549
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: had to take a cab from downtown San Diego to

550
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: like Inland. It's like one hundred dollars cab there. And

551
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: we show up to the house and my brother's not there,

552
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: but all his roommates are, and his roommates had never

553
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: met my mom. Don't know what I look like and

554
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: they're just they're like confused as ship. So they called

555
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: the cops, and the cops get there, and my mom

556
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: she's schizophrenic and diabetic, and when we lost all our stuff,

557
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: she also lost all her medication, so she was kind

558
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: of in and out with episodes. She had like schizophrenic episodes,

559
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: and she just didn't know where she was or I

560
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: don't even know how we got there, to be honest,

561
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: but I ended up falling asleep in the back of

562
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: that cop car because I was just so tired. I

563
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: had no I had flip flop songs, some shorts and

564
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: tank top and I woke up and then we were

565
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: in the hospital with my mom because she was getting medication.

566
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: That's when my brother for the first time. And so

567
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: my brother, his name is Nate. He he's the one

568
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: who ended up getting custody of me once my mom

569
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: left because he saw my mom and he knew that

570
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: she couldn't take care of me. So it was just

571
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: that time. Uh GEK, I love you, man, might have.

572
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: Well gage if you got to go, you gotta go.

573
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: Thanks for telling us about all this stuff, and uh,

574
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: good luck to you in the future. Man. I'm sorry

575
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 2: that your life has been filled with so much crazy

576
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: stuff at such a young age. But you know, keep

577
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: keep on gak. You seem like a nice, sweet guy.

578
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: I think hopefully you've you've paid your metaphysical dues to

579
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: this universe and it'll reward you at some point. I

580
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: think it will.

581
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: I hope, so, gek, I sure, hope. So I'm going

582
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: to keep keep on going, you know, try to spread

583
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: the positivity and keep going. Really, that's all you could do. Man,

584
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: Take every day as another chance to keep fighting for

585
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: what's right.

586
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: All right, we'll take care gage, Thank.

587
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: You, Thank you again. I'm going.

588
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 4: Yuck.

589
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: Hey, who's this, Chuck? How are you, Chuck? What's going on?

590
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: Man?

591
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: How you doing? I'm good?

592
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: How are you?

593
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: I'm actually doing pretty okay right now? Man? What'd you

594
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: want to talk about today?

595
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 4: Yeah? I wanted to talk about how I got a

596
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,719
Speaker 4: guy out of jail that was wrongly convicted a murder.

597
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: Wow? What are you a how'd you do that? What

598
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 2: are you? Are you a a cop? Are you a lawyer?

599
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: Are you dude?

600
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 4: Listen to this? I was I was an intern. It

601
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 4: was it was literally it was literally crazy. I was

602
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 4: an intern.

603
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: Tell me more.

604
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, So I was interning at this law firm.

605
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 4: Law firmsuse I thought I wanted to be a lawyer, right,

606
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 4: and they just had me to do like paperwork and

607
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 4: ship And then one day some dude sent in a

608
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 4: letter about how he was in jail for this murder

609
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 4: he didn't commit, and they took the case on pro

610
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 4: bono and we were like, yeah, bro, you're here, so

611
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 4: like you might as well help out with the case.

612
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 4: And I was like, I was like okay, cool. So yeah,

613
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: like had to like meet this dude in prison and

614
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 4: like like all the autopsy pictures and like all this

615
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 4: crazy shit.

616
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: Wow. Well, so he was wrongly accused of murder.

617
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, mmm dude. So so, like the story is that

618
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 4: they robbed the taco bell and then like murdered this woman,

619
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 4: but it was the guy that was with him, but

620
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 4: the police department was corrupt in the lady who was

621
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 4: interrogating the guy who actually did it sucked the dude's

622
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 4: dick in the interrogation room. And then yeah, and then

623
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 4: the police department didn't want to like have that like

624
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 4: have like that press out, so they like convicted the

625
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 4: guy who was wrongly prisoned, so like that pressed and

626
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 4: get out.

627
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Okay, who's sucked who's dick in the

628
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: interrogation room?

629
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 4: All right, Like the interrogator sucked the person who's like,

630
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 4: who actually did it? He confessed the interrogation room. The

631
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 4: interrogator said, this is the last piece of aster you're

632
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 4: ever going to get. Sucked his dick and it was

633
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 4: the granddaughter of like the chief of police.

634
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 2: Dude, you're bullsh there's no way that, no, dude, straight up.

635
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 4: So, like they convicted the guy who actually went to jail,

636
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 4: which was his buddy that was like with him.

637
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'm gonna try to all right, I'm

638
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: gonna explain this from how I understand it. So a

639
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: guy murders someone, right, and then he gets interrogated and

640
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: the interrogator says, you're going to jail, and this is

641
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: the last piece of ass you're going to get, and

642
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: then sucks his dick. And then because the police didn't

643
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 2: want the press of that coming out, they let the

644
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: guy go and imprisoned someone else.

645
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it was the interrogator was the police chief's daughter.

646
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 4: And it was like obviously when I was working on it,

647
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 4: it was like fifteen. It was like fifteen twenty years,

648
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 4: so it was all like really shitty recordings.

649
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: And what's happened in like the two thousands?

650
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so the other recordings are really bad and

651
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 4: really chopping, and the recordings got put into evidence like

652
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 4: four days after they were recorded, so they alously altered

653
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 4: it so you couldn't hear anything with the interrogation.

654
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 2: Well god, damn, yeah, it was cool.

655
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 4: I mean, it was it was cool.

656
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: Okay, now, liked did it ever come out? Did the

657
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 2: story ever come out?

658
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 3: So?

659
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 4: What I mean once he got out, he was kind

660
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 4: of just like, so he had a daughter, so he's

661
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 4: in jail for twenty years, so I just want to

662
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 4: use like an email, like how to make an email?

663
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: And okay, well what happened to the guy who got

664
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: a blowjob? Is? Did he go to jail?

665
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 3: No?

666
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 4: Nothing, because he was already tried. I mean from what

667
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 4: I understand and like I said, as an intern, but yeah,

668
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 4: he didn't go to jokes didn't have any DNA evidence

669
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 4: because they didn't have anything on them because obviously they

670
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 4: altered the voice recordings and shit.

671
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: That's fucking bizarre, man. Dude's wow, what a summer internship, dude?

672
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 4: I literally yeah, it was like nineteen, like doing all

673
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 4: this crazy shit. They didn't know what I was doing.

674
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,959
Speaker 2: What are you doing now?

675
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 4: I work in sales now, okay, I have I'm.

676
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: Still having trouble and I don't I know people. I know.

677
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 2: I know people say all kinds of outlandish things on here,

678
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: and I typically believe them, but this one, I'm not.

679
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: Well I would I don't think you would lie to me.

680
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 4: Well hear me out, So yeah, dude, the whole thing

681
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 4: was crazy, But the part about like the interrogator and

682
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 4: stuff like, the issue is too like everyone's dead now,

683
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 4: Like the chief of fleets is dead, the cops that

684
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 4: arrested them as they're dead, so like there's not really

685
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 4: any beside some choppy voice recordings and what she said.

686
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 4: There's not really any like any way to prove it,

687
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 4: which is why he's not in jail.

688
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: Well, ship man, what do you sell now?

689
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 4: I'd sell TV ads?

690
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 2: You sell tv ads. It's so much more boring than

691
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: what you just subscribed to.

692
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 4: Me, dude, so much more boring.

693
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 3: Are you?

694
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: Do you like life?

695
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 6: Yeah?

696
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 4: I mean it's cool. I saw you with Charlotte. That

697
00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 4: was pretty lit.

698
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: Oh that that was fun. Yeah, that wasn't it. That

699
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 2: was a good time. Oh, I'm so happy that everyone.

700
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: I'm so happy that every the callers are organically mentioning

701
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: my live shows so that I can get people to

702
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: buy tickets to them. That's cool, man, that's cool. How

703
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: am I bro? I'm uh, I'm okay, I'm okay, I'm fine.

704
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: I'm like a little uh.

705
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 6: I don't know.

706
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 2: I feel weird. I feel weird airing my shit. It's

707
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 2: so weird because, like I I've been thinking about this

708
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: a lot. I feel it makes me like when I

709
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: talk about things that are wrong that are going on

710
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: with me in my personal life, I am like, oh,

711
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: I'm like putting myself out there and maybe I'll regret

712
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: that one day, But I don't like part of me

713
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: to my core is like I should be open about

714
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 2: my life, Like what do I have to who gives shit?

715
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 3: So what?

716
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: Like?

717
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: Uh, you know what am I So people know that

718
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: I'm a little sad? You know what? Does that affect me? Negative?

719
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: Or people can use that against me? I don't know

720
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: what's the point of hiding go? Or maybe it just

721
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: feels weird to me to like use this podcast as

722
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: my personal therapy. But maybe that's helpful to people who

723
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: are listening, and that's a worthwhile reason to do it.

724
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: So so I don't know, I'm also I'm I'm I'm

725
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: neurotic about it, but how many i'm you know, I

726
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: think I'm being a baby, to be honest, I think

727
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: I think when all's said and done, I was on

728
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: Reddit yesterday, I was like really depressed yesterday and then

729
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 2: I went on Reddit and I saw this post about

730
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: this this guy who just got put in a wheelchair,

731
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: and I was reading it and I was like, oh,

732
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: I'm fine, you know what I mean being a baby, right, Like,

733
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: nothing close to any of the worst possible things that

734
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: could happen to me, like like a serious injury or

735
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 2: death of the family or or or sickness has happened

736
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 2: to me. And yeah, I'm fine whatever. You know, I

737
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: think I'm being a baby.

738
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I've seen a lot of really happy people

739
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 4: in wheelchairs.

740
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: I guess, so, yeah, I guess. I guess you can

741
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: still play basketball.

742
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, fall out, do some tricks. Yeah, dude, I mean

743
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 4: you're allowed to be bummed out?

744
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: What does that mean?

745
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: Though?

746
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: I don't like when people say, like, like when people say,

747
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: like it's okay to be sad, Like, what is that?

748
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean any What does that it's okay to

749
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: be sad and that means nothing.

750
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 4: I'm saying, like, you don't have to compare yourself, like

751
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 4: just because you're on a podcast like helping people out,

752
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 4: you don't have to like be like all this person,

753
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 4: is it worse than me? I'm not allowed to be

754
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 4: bummed out?

755
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: No, No, but that's not It's not about the reason

756
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: I don't like the phrase it's okay to be sad

757
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: or like, because it's not about like, there's nothing I

758
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: don't I'm not. I don't need permission from anyone to

759
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: do any to do to feel feelings like I'm allowed

760
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 2: to be allowed by by what force, by what person?

761
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: By There's no I don't need permission to feel my feelings.

762
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: There's no organization or entity that I need a stamp

763
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 2: of approval on my emotions for. That's not what I'm

764
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 2: talking about. I'm talking like when I talk about like, oh,

765
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: there's a kids dying in the streets and people in

766
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: wheelchairs and stuff, that's me thinking, like it's me trying

767
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,479
Speaker 2: to change my perspective and be grateful for the things

768
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: in my life that are going well, because that's all

769
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: you all you fucking have really is your perspective. Like

770
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: the mind can make a hell out of of heaven

771
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: and a heaven out of hell, right, because like you

772
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: could be you could be living a really awesome life.

773
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: I'm living a really on paper cool life, but I'm

774
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: my perspective and my brain is like just downer, yeah,

775
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: and that's that's that's a function of my own perspective.

776
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: And you could be you could have uh a shittier

777
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 2: you can be kind of a shitty life. I've talked

778
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: to people who have like kind of shitty lives, but

779
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: there they are just happy to be like alive at all.

780
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 2: Like their perspective and their brain is good, and so

781
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: that's what informs their state of being more than anything else.

782
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: And so like I just I hate I hate the

783
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 2: whole you're allowed to be. That doesn't make any sense.

784
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 2: It's like when people, well, I like, I've been thinking

785
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: about this a lot because this is this is another

786
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: Reddit thing, like I read am I the Asshole? You

787
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 2: know you ever read am I the Asshole? Like people

788
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: people talk about like, oh, you're valid in your feelings, right,

789
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: I guess I get I guess I get what that means, right,

790
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: You're saying like like you're saying like according to the

791
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: normal baseline of what is considered rational by society and

792
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: rational by the opinion of other sane human beings. Am

793
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 2: I rational in my feelings? I you know that makes sense?

794
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 3: Right?

795
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: That makes sense when I think about it like that.

796
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: Maybe that's maybe that's what allowed to be said or okay,

797
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: to feel the way means, But I still it still

798
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 2: just makes me think of like some kind of like

799
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: authority or something that I'm trying to appeal to, which

800
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense.

801
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could be worse. I mean, you could be

802
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 4: imprisoned for murder.

803
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, while the other guy gets a blowjob and runs away.

804
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: I deal man, But yeah, I guess that's time. I

805
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: feel good right now because I'm I'm dressed kind of

806
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: I'm in a gecko, sup. But I'm alive and awake

807
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: and speaking words, and I'm not Yes, I woke up

808
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: at okay, but this is the last I'm gonna talk

809
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 2: about myself, and then we'll take another call. But this

810
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: I woke up it in the middle of the night

811
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: yesterday and went to the bodega down the street from me,

812
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: and I got a you Who. And I was like

813
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: a crack addict. I like, got a you Who. And

814
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: then I went back and I drank it outside of

815
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 2: the bodega, and then I just would I kept going

816
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: in the bodega and back out, like I went in

817
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 2: and out and in and out, just like looking at

818
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: the treats and being like, should I get another tree?

819
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 2: And I didn't get another you Who, but I wanted one.

820
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: And I stayed up until five o'clock in the morning

821
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: watching Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. And so that's how

822
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: I'm doing. That's so that's my answer to your question.

823
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the

824
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?

825
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 4: Yeah? You judge yourself by your intent and everybody else

826
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 4: by their actions.

827
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: Ah yeah, Yeah, that's true. That's a very true one.

828
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: I could go on a whole rant about that, but

829
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: I won't. We'll save it for another call. Take care

830
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: of buddy. Thank you very much for calling.

831
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 6: Hello.

832
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: Hi, Who is this?

833
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 6: This is Wendy.

834
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 2: How old are you? Wendy?

835
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 6: I am twenty one?

836
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: Rock and roll Wendy, Wendy, Wendy, what's going on? Wendy?

837
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: How's life.

838
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 6: Well, it's been a bit stressful.

839
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 2: Go ahead.

840
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I've been hiding my relationship with

841
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 6: my boyfriend from my dad for almost five years, and

842
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 6: I'm afraid to tell him.

843
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 2: Why have you been hiding this relationship?

844
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 6: Well, my dad he's kind of like he's very, very strict,

845
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 6: and well, he doesn't let us go out anywhere. It

846
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 6: all started when I'm sorry, I'm a bit nervous.

847
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: No, don't worry about it.

848
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 6: But when I was in high school in twenty seventeen,

849
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 6: I met this guy and we hit it off really well,

850
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 6: and I started texting him, I started talking, and then

851
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 6: in twenty nineteen he asked me to be his girlfriend.

852
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 6: So I said yes, And he lives an hour away

853
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 6: from me, and I used to sneak out, like.

854
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 2: Can I ask how old this guy was.

855
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 6: At the time. When I was sixteen, he was eighteen.

856
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: Okay, that's not the big of a deal. Okay. And

857
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: then you've been keeping this from your dad because he's strict.

858
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 6: Yes, and he's also like very verbally abusive.

859
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: Do you live with him?

860
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 6: No, But he's in the process of moving out and

861
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 6: I am almost done with my college. I just have

862
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 6: a year in nine months left, and I'm afraid if

863
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 6: I tell my dad that, hey, I'm moving out, you know,

864
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 6: he's going to hold a judge on me and he's

865
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 6: not going to want to communicate with me anymore.

866
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: Well, well listen, okay, So you you're you're finishing up

867
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: college very soon? You said yes, okay, And do you

868
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: have a job lined up? Do you have a way

869
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: to financially support yourself? If I sound like da.

870
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 6: For now, I only I work out a hotel. I'm

871
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 6: a housekeeper.

872
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 2: Okay, great, Okay, So you have the means to move

873
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: out of your dad's house.

874
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 6: Yes, I do, mm hmm.

875
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: Okay, And uh look, here's the thing. If if you're

876
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 2: an adult and you're twenty one and you're living with

877
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: your dad is making you your life suck. I see

878
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 2: why you would want to move. I mean, you're afraid

879
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: that he that he won't want to talk to you

880
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: anymore if you move.

881
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, because there was this thing happened between my sister

882
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 6: and him. They had some kind of conflict. She's nineteen,

883
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 6: and I guess I had like this huge argument and

884
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 6: my sister literally just walked out. Okay, and then like kirk,

885
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 6: communication off with her.

886
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: I don't know your dad. I'm not gonna pretend like

887
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 2: I know you're dead, But like, your parents are not

888
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: allowed to possess you, especially when you're an adult. They're

889
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: not allowed to possess you. They're not allowed to get

890
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 2: you know. It's weird for them to get upset and

891
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 2: weird when you go out and try to live your life.

892
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 2: I don't know why they do that. I don't know

893
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,479
Speaker 2: why your dad's the way he is. I'm not gonna

894
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 2: pretend like I know about any of this shit. But

895
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: like you know, your dad wanting to not talk to

896
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 2: you because you are no longer under his control financially

897
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: and living in his house is his problem, you know.

898
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you, as an adult with a job, are

899
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: endowed with the privilege of living your own fucking life,

900
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 2: you know. And I'm not going to tell you what

901
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 2: to do, Wendy, but you know, I think in general

902
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 2: it's probably a good idea to take advantage of that

903
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 2: endowment and go live your own life.

904
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 6: What if he says no, will I just keep my

905
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 6: relationship a secret?

906
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: What if your dad says no to you moving out?

907
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, you want him to hold I don't have to

908
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 6: hold a grudge against me. I want him to be

909
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 6: at my wedding.

910
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: If we ever get married. Wendy, your dad can't say

911
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: no to you moving out. You're an adult.

912
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 6: Okay.

913
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear about this, but uh, you know

914
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 2: I again, I you know, dude, I wish you. I

915
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: wish you luck in in trying to, you know, take

916
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: control of your own life. Should I just like to

917
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 2: tell him the truth?

918
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, like everything at once? Okay, Dad, I mean I've

919
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 6: been hiding for your relationship, and I'm gonna move out.

920
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 2: These these are all good. These are good things, though, Wendy.

921
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 2: And it's your dad's problem if he doesn't want to

922
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: be happy for you. You're an adult, you have a job,

923
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: you have a relationship that makes you happy, and you're

924
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 2: gonna go out and be an independent human being. These

925
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 2: are all good things, Wendy. I don't want you to

926
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: be looking at them as bad. These are all good things.

927
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: I'm very It makes me very sorry to hear that

928
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 2: your dad has caused you to frame them as bad.

929
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 2: But you you and you know you can't control what

930
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: other people do. But you know, at a certain point,

931
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 2: I think you just kind of stand up to him.

932
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 2: And be like, you know, you're you. You gotta go

933
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 2: live your own life, Wendy. I'm like, these are these

934
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: are not bad things, these are not shameful things.

935
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 6: You're right, I'm just trying tomorrow.

936
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 2: Fuck it, Okay, okay, good luck. And it'll probably be

937
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 2: difficult at the beginning, but you know, as you get older,

938
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: I think it'll be easier and you'll be glad you did.

939
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, get go. I really appreciate it.

940
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 2: Of course, have a good night, Wendy.

941
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 6: Thank you. Bye.

942
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: Never goes all the line taking your phone calls every night,

943
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: everything goes to side. You're teaching you cloud every life.

944
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: That is not really an expert