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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program coming your way

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Speaker 1: from Indianapolis, the NFL Scouting Combine. It is on and

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Speaker 1: even though the players are not working out yet, coaches

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Speaker 1: gms at the podiums on Tuesday, Lots of activity, tons

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Speaker 1: of media. You go to my Instagram feed at Texan's

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Speaker 1: Voice see a bunch of media tour stuff if you're

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Speaker 1: interested in that. And of course Tomiko Ryans was at

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Speaker 1: the podium today. Nick Cassario tomorrow on the show tonight

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Speaker 1: after Coach Ryans, Who's coming up in just a moment

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Speaker 1: here Anisee Shrap from ESPN And also a little bit

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Speaker 1: later on Frank Fraji Jaguars Voice on their situation.

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Speaker 2: Start of a big week here.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have tons of guests all week long and

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Speaker 1: into next week, probably because we're recording a lot of

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Speaker 1: content as well. But let's get right to it. Our

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Speaker 1: visit with head coach Tamiko Ryans, coach.

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Speaker 3: Great to see you, Great to see you guys.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, here.

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Speaker 2: Here we are in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: And what is the main thing you get out of

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Speaker 1: this visit to the Combine?

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Speaker 5: The main thing I get out of this visit is

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Speaker 5: being able to sit with you guys. You know, the

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Speaker 5: main thing is we're going through the interview process. We

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Speaker 5: get about fifteen we get about twenty minutes. I'm sorry

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Speaker 5: with some prospects. So being able to sit in a

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Speaker 5: room and just sit across from a guy, just get

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Speaker 5: to hear their background, like their upbringing, like their history

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Speaker 5: of football, how they got started, and hear their why.

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Speaker 3: So you get to hear a guy's story.

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Speaker 5: You get to feel a guy's energy, feel his passion,

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Speaker 5: his love for the game of football. That's what really

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Speaker 5: jumps out to me in those twenty minute interviews. Sometimes

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Speaker 5: they go pretty fast and you can't get some questions

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Speaker 5: in because some guys are very talkative and some guys

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Speaker 5: you have to kind of push them a little bit

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Speaker 5: more in problem to you have to ask them a

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Speaker 5: few more questions. But you instantly get a feel for personalities.

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Speaker 6: Coach, how much do you want to know about them

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Speaker 6: before they walk in the room, or you want it

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Speaker 6: to be completely organic you meeting this guy, Hey, don't

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Speaker 6: tell anything. I just want to I want to be

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Speaker 6: able to get that from him one on one or

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Speaker 6: the roof.

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Speaker 4: Damn.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would love it to be more organic with

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Speaker 5: our scouts, they do such a thorough job, Like with

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Speaker 5: the with the background, so you kind of already know

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Speaker 5: a little bit of the information. And you know, I

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Speaker 5: think our guys done a great job this year Lipford

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Speaker 5: and his staff of just honing in on making those

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Speaker 5: interviews more targeted and trying to see, like, what do

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Speaker 5: we actually need to know more about this player so

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Speaker 5: we can spend more time on the unknown or the

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Speaker 5: things we need to dig deeper on as opposed to

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Speaker 5: some of the background and stuff that we already know.

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Speaker 5: Our scouts they do such an excellent job. I mean,

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Speaker 5: they've been watching these guys for some of them three years,

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Speaker 5: four years, and you know, they follow these guys, so

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Speaker 5: they pretty much know who they are now. It's just

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Speaker 5: a matter of coaches getting the first look to get

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Speaker 5: to know the guys.

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Speaker 1: Well, what about the workouts themselves, because a lot of

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Speaker 1: people call it the underwear Olympics or whatever because.

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Speaker 2: They're not in football gear, but you do see some things.

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Speaker 2: What do you get out of that part?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when it comes to the workouts seon, I know

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Speaker 5: a lot of emphasis is put on the forty yard dash.

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Speaker 5: For me, you can you can kind of tell how

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Speaker 5: fast guys are watching the tape. It's good to see

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Speaker 5: you know, Oh this guy he was you know, sub

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Speaker 5: for six, so for you know, but that's not where

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Speaker 5: we're hanging our hat on drafting that guy when it

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Speaker 3: For me, I put a little bit more on this on.

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Speaker 5: The position drills, right and seeing guys how they move,

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Speaker 3: So that stands out a little bit more to myself.

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Speaker 6: One of the things I think I've asked you about

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Speaker 6: this before, but at the combine, can you tell how.

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Speaker 7: Swarmy a guy is? And you know what I mean

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Speaker 7: by that, because that's I mean, that's your thing.

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Speaker 6: Just when I think I said that the mark all

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Speaker 6: matter where they are, I go, is that guy swarm you?

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Speaker 7: I think that way?

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Speaker 6: Now do you do you have a fuel get a

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Speaker 6: how swarmy a guy can be?

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Speaker 5: That's interesting you said that, I know in our interviews

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Speaker 3: A couple swarm candidates.

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Speaker 5: And you can feel like that energy from guys, like

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Speaker 5: Hearing guys talk about how they practice and how they

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Speaker 3: You love football?

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Speaker 7: Well, I love to compete.

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Speaker 5: I don't care when it is practice again, I love

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Speaker 5: to compete. Those are all those swarm components that we're

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Speaker 5: looking for in our players.

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Speaker 1: You talked about knowing a guy's why or trying to

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Speaker 1: find out and how important is that they want to

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Speaker 1: be good not just at football but at all aspects

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Speaker 2: It's got to be difficult to tell with some guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is difficult to tell.

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Speaker 5: And that why speaks to me a little bit more

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Speaker 5: because you can hear a guy whether he's doing it

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Speaker 3: He wants to do it because he wants to be

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Speaker 5: Like you know, I don't think a lot of guys

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Speaker 5: but uh for me, And I can always draw back

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Speaker 5: to that, because what's gonna drive you? Right when you

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Speaker 5: have the contract? When you get drafted in the first round, Okay,

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Speaker 5: that's behind you. Now, what's gonna drive you? What's gonna

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Speaker 5: sustain you through a season where we hit a little adversity, Like,

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Speaker 5: what's the reason behind why you're doing what you do?

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Speaker 5: Because you know we play a tough sport and there's

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Speaker 3: So what are you gonna lean on.

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Speaker 5: And that's where I the reason of what's your why

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Speaker 5: why and remind him of why he's doing what he's doing.

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Speaker 5: That serves as a motivation tactic for me later whenever

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Speaker 6: Coach, we have missed you and not been able to

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Speaker 6: talk to you on radio, so we have not had

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Speaker 6: a chance to talk to you.

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Speaker 7: You mention your coaches.

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Speaker 6: We have not had a chance to talk to about

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Speaker 6: Nick Keyley and what he brings as offensive coordinator. What

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Speaker 6: can you gonna share with us about why Nick Keley

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Speaker 6: is the right fit for Houston.

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Speaker 7: He's right for the Texans in for you as head coach.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it starts with knicks passion for the game. I

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Speaker 5: think instantly when you talk to him, you feel his

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Speaker 5: passion for the game of football, his love for football.

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Speaker 5: What set him apart for me was just again his

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Speaker 5: diverse background. Like when Nick started and coaching, he coached

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Speaker 5: Then when he got to New England, he worked with

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Speaker 3: He worked with the running backs, he worked with tight ends.

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Speaker 5: So he's worked with a ton of different guys and

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Speaker 5: different capacities. Right, He's led a lot of different guys,

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Speaker 5: different personalities, and he's led those guys to have successful seasons.

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Speaker 5: And add that onto him getting with the Rams and

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Speaker 5: to learn from Sewn Sean is a great leader, great motivator.

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Speaker 5: And sometimes talking to Klef, I feel like I'm talking

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Speaker 5: you know what I talk to him about and emphasized

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Speaker 5: most important to me is the adaptability right him having

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Speaker 5: a different background, being at different places, multiple stops like, Okay,

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Speaker 5: what are we doing and how are we doing well?

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Speaker 5: It's all tailored around CJ. And what does CJ do well?

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Speaker 5: And how do we morph the offense to fit what

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Speaker 5: he does well? And our players around him? Just putting

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Speaker 1: Yep, coach, the combines all about the draft, But we

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Speaker 1: have free agency before the draft, and I know you

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Speaker 1: have about twenty five free agents or so.

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Speaker 2: How hard is it to make these decisions?

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Speaker 1: I know some guys it's tough to get them back

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Speaker 1: because of the market or whatever the case is.

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Speaker 2: How does that process.

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Speaker 1: Go for you when you're evaluating who to make offers

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Now, coming into this offseason, we have over twenty

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Speaker 5: an emphasis to our guys. In our last team meeting,

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Speaker 5: I told our guys, everybody understand your free agent everybody

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Speaker 5: So we let our guys know, Hey, you're gonna hear

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Speaker 5: hear from us, because we know our guys who are

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Speaker 5: free agents, right You know what they bring to the table,

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Speaker 3: So always start there.

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Speaker 5: And then we're going through right now our self scout

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Speaker 5: him back. He was very beneficial to us. And it's

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Speaker 5: a lot of tough conversations that are going on with

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Speaker 5: the free agents, because, man, you want everyone back. We

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Speaker 5: had a successful run last year, went deep into the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: so many all those guys who free they contributed to

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Speaker 3: So you evaluate your guys, see who you.

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Speaker 5: Want to add back, whatever the contracts are, letting Nick

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Speaker 5: handle that they headed the way of the contracts, and

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Speaker 5: then you look at, Okay, who's available on other teams.

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Speaker 5: And it's our job always to improve our roster. So

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Speaker 5: you look at certain positions, you see, okay, well X

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Speaker 5: but what type of player is he when he gets

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Speaker 5: and how much are we signing for?

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Speaker 1: All Right, So what event do you like better? This

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Speaker 7: Black time quarter zip.

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Speaker 7: That's that's good, coach.

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Speaker 6: We haven't talked yet about CJ. And you know, two

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Speaker 6: We didn't even know CJ was a you know, a

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Speaker 3: We put so much work so much time and effort

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Speaker 5: You have high expectations and so you know, it's our

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Speaker 3: I think the more we can put great players around

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Speaker 5: Help him, the more we will see him and take

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Speaker 1: Right, Coach, I know you're still planning a lot just

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, we're still working through getting a joint practice.

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Speaker 2: We needed a jacket one of those days.

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Speaker 7: Yes, it was a fantastic day.

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Speaker 1: So when you're in touch with the family, Okay, this

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Speaker 1: Do you FaceTime? How do you stay in touch? Because

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Speaker 5: How do you do Sure it starts with a FaceTime. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: What is that like for you though, in the off

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Speaker 3: I did not get enough sleep last night. Man, you

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Speaker 5: So for the most part they've been doing doing a

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Speaker 6: I want to do that, and they will always ask

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Speaker 7: You have not like where did you come up with that?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I got a few of those.

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Speaker 2: Coach, thanks a lot for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Thanks you guys enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: There's head coach Tamiko Ryan's coming up from ESPN. He

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Speaker 1: A Niche Shroff next here on Texans Radio. All right,

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Speaker 1: right back to it here in Indianapolis, Mark Vandermer, John

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Speaker 1: by play announcer College football, college Basketball, Bunch of Stuff,

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Speaker 1: Voice of the Carolina Panthers and on ESPN and Niche

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Speaker 1: works with Andre Ware. Hey, Johnny and I work with

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Speaker 3: We love Andre.

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Speaker 1: We absolutely love Andre. And it's interesting because you get

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Speaker 1: night game really helps the situation.

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Speaker 8: It helps a lot. Not only that, because most of

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Speaker 8: the other crews at ESPN, they don't learn their Saturday

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Speaker 8: assignments until six to twelve days out about half the season.

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Speaker 8: It's a six day pick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: So with the Friday night schedule, when the schedule is

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Speaker 8: released in its entirety, we know where we're going pretty

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Speaker 8: much every week from about early August onwards, so you

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Speaker 8: can kind of look at the schedule, you cross reference it. Okay,

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Speaker 8: I'm in still Water on Friday, October whatever, and I

457
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Speaker 8: got to get to Nashville. And you start looking at

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Speaker 8: flights and you say, I got to book this one early,

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Speaker 8: so it allows you to plan and map out. So

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Speaker 8: every week Entree and I know where you getting to

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Speaker 8: the Oh, hey you gotta go to Jacksonville. That's a

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Speaker 8: hard one. Yet Green Bay's that's a tough one. So yeah,

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Speaker 8: we're always trading those stories.

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Speaker 6: And you guys have gotten a really good Friday almost lash.

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Speaker 6: You guys have had some football games. I mean, I

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Speaker 6: mean some of it's done luck in some sense, you

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Speaker 6: just get the game that's on Friday. But you guys

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Speaker 6: have got some really great games and made Friday Night

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Speaker 6: like must see television.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: And one, he's been great to work with. You know,

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Speaker 8: you get a guy who's won of Heisman, who's been

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Speaker 8: a college football legend, played in the NFL, played the

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Speaker 8: quarterback position, sees the game from the quarterbacks purview. I

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Speaker 8: thought this year we had a run of like seven

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Speaker 8: or eight games in a row. We called it Mayhem. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: and every week something crazy happened. One week it was

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Speaker 8: the Miami Virginia Tech Hail Mary that was refers to.

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Speaker 8: And then you know, BYU against Oklahoma State where they

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Speaker 8: score in the last minute, crazy drive. Fans go nuts,

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Speaker 8: Arizona State storms the field or sideline reporter gets this

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Speaker 8: viral moment with the Kenny Dillingham, their head coach. We

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Speaker 8: see Cam Scataboo, who you know is gonna be at

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Speaker 8: the combine, go absolutely bonkers. And then we finished the

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Speaker 8: year doing the peach ball on radio the Texas Arizona

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Speaker 8: State game, which was as good of a college football

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Speaker 8: playoff game as we've had in its entirety.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, absolutely, that was an amazing game.

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Speaker 1: And he sharp joining as ESPN play by play man

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Speaker 1: and voice of the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 2: So what's it like for you doing the national.

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Speaker 1: Game and being objective and then getting in the seat

494
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Speaker 1: for the Panthers, where, hey, you want your team to win,

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Speaker 1: you want them to blow everybody out.

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Speaker 2: You're aching for that. What is that like for you?

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Speaker 2: That transition?

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Speaker 3: So it's funny.

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Speaker 8: I got a piece of advice before I started with

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Speaker 8: the Panthers, and it was, hey, after the first game,

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Speaker 8: don't take the result home with you, especially if it's

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Speaker 8: a loss. And you get so accustomed to doing these

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Speaker 8: neutral games, Well, let's be honest, you don't really care

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Speaker 8: who wins as long as the game is close.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 8: And entertaining. So I said, ay, easy enough, right, first game,

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Speaker 8: Week one, my first season, Panthers are home for the Browns.

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Speaker 8: Cleveland hits a fifty seven yard field goal as time expires,

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Speaker 8: will yorke orkade York who then couldn't hit another field

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Speaker 8: goal for the rest of his time. It's a fifty

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Speaker 8: seven yard or in his rookie debut, and the Browns win,

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Speaker 8: and I remember coming home feeling like I lost and

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Speaker 8: we lost, and I realize really quickly, the fans need

514
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Speaker 8: to hear that in your voice. They need to hear

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Speaker 8: the joy, the enthusiasm, the love, all those things when

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Speaker 8: you're doing well. And then they need to hear the

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Speaker 8: frustration at times, the disappointment when things aren't going so well.

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Speaker 8: You have this unique power and you guys know it

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Speaker 8: where you kind of play with people's emotions when you're

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Speaker 8: on the air, and there's the right way to do it.

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Speaker 8: And so I would say probably took me a season

522
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Speaker 8: just to get the feel of that part of it

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Speaker 8: where no, you are vested and you become vested and

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Speaker 8: it's okay to be vested any.

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Speaker 6: When you're doing TV versus doing radio. Does it change

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Speaker 6: the way that you announce the game because obviously radio

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Speaker 6: they can't they they're not seeing it. They have to

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Speaker 6: see it through your voice. Yes, but TV they can

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Speaker 6: see everything is happening. Does it kind of change the

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Speaker 6: what you present the game for the fans?

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Speaker 8: I've always said television is why and how because you

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Speaker 8: can see what right, and radio is what. Radio is

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Speaker 8: painting with the fine paint brushes. Television it's a lot

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Speaker 8: of broad strokes. Really, it's the analyst who is the

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Speaker 8: star because they're adding most of the context and the

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Speaker 8: why and how. On TV and on radio, it's kind

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Speaker 8: of like what we grew up doing. It's i think

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Speaker 8: the most pure form of the craft, where you're describing

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Speaker 8: and you're finding all the little details, and you're looking

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Speaker 8: up at the sky and is it glacier blue or

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Speaker 8: cobalt blue, or is it blue boiling into black? Whatever

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Speaker 8: it might be? Right, you're trying to find those You're

543
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Speaker 8: trying to capture site sounds, smells and paint this holistic

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Speaker 8: picture for people who aren't there and can't see.

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Speaker 1: It's so much fun. It's a great medium. Who are

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Speaker 1: some of your heroes?

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Speaker 2: You know? Some of mine are not people you would think,

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Speaker 2: but what about you.

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Speaker 8: So you might feel the same way here. I grew

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Speaker 8: up in a family where we did not have cable

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Speaker 8: growing up, so I listened to a ton of radio

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Speaker 8: Oh good, So I listened to Ein Eagle when he

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Speaker 8: was doing the Jets. I listened to a lot of

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Speaker 8: Bob Papak for the Giants. John Sterling when he would

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Speaker 8: do the Yankees, probably told me more bedtime stories than

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Speaker 8: my parents. With Michael Kay alongside with Michael Kay and so,

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Speaker 8: I used to have this little pocket radio that you'd

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Speaker 8: have to tune with a dial. So when they were

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Speaker 8: on the West Coast during the summer, I would go

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Speaker 8: to sleep with this pocket radio and I'd fall asleep

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Speaker 8: to a Yankee game, and then I'd wake up to

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Speaker 8: political discourse far beyond my comprehension.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt. Let's talk Bryce Young. Obviously, you calling

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Speaker 6: the games for the Panthers. You've seen in two years,

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Speaker 6: you've seen a career. Oh my gosh, it's a signer

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Speaker 6: or co sign wave, depending on where you thought he started.

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Speaker 6: But at the end of the year, it kind of

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Speaker 6: felt like the Panthers were starting to kind of follow

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Speaker 6: his lead.

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Speaker 7: He was starting to get more comfortable.

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Speaker 6: What are kind of your thoughts on Bryson where the

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Speaker 6: organization is going now with Dave Canalis leading it.

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Speaker 8: Well, the arrow's pointing up. I think you guys saw that,

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Speaker 8: and I think it was a reminder for all of

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Speaker 8: us who are in this space. Patience is in short

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Speaker 8: supply these guys right where last year, I'll be honest

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Speaker 8: in Caroline, everybody looked at what c J. Stroud was

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Speaker 8: doing in Houston. Sure, and that comparison with Bryce and

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Speaker 8: CJ is going to last forever like it did with

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Speaker 8: Peyton Manning and Ryan Lee or Drew Bledsoe and Rick Myer,

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Speaker 8: or how it row last with you know, Jaden Daniels

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Speaker 8: and Drake May and Caleb Williams in this past class.

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Speaker 8: Like you're gonna be tied to the QBS in your

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Speaker 8: draft class. We all know that. So for a lot

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Speaker 8: of folks, hey, c J. Stroud putting up a historic

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Speaker 8: rookie season, the Texans are in the playoffs and Bryce

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Speaker 8: is struggling Why And then you kind of take a

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Speaker 8: deeper look and you say, well, the Panthers had fifteen

589
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Speaker 8: different starting guards in twenty twenty three Brice's rookie season.

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Speaker 8: They fired the head coach, They changed the play caller

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Speaker 8: multiple times. There wasn't a lot of continuity and alignment.

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Speaker 3: On the staff.

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Speaker 8: And you got a rookie quarterback on top of that

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Speaker 8: who was named a Day one starter and you're saying, hey,

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Speaker 8: go do this, and he struggled. And after the first

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Speaker 8: two games this past season, you lose forty seven to

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Speaker 8: ten of the Saints. You go without an offensive touchdown

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Speaker 8: against the Chargers in Week two, and then he gets benched.

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Speaker 8: We were all wondering what happens now. You spent a

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Speaker 8: first round pick and a number one overall pick on

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Speaker 8: Bryce Young and he looked shell shocked. He looked out

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Speaker 8: of it. And the best way I think to describe

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Speaker 8: that two year are with how things ended. Five touchdowns

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Speaker 8: in his last game against Atlanta for a Falcons team

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Speaker 8: that needed to win to have a shot at the playoffs. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: played his best game. It almost well like Hero's journey

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Speaker 8: if you're watching a superhero movie. Right, Destiny chooses you

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Speaker 8: first round pick, five star recruit, number one overall Heisman

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Speaker 8: Trophy winner, and then circumstances conspire against you. Right, you

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Speaker 8: got all this coaching turbulence, turbulence within the franchise, and

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Speaker 8: then adversity hits. Everybody doubts you, you're cast aside, you're

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Speaker 8: written off, and then you come back. And the amazing

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Speaker 8: thing was when he came back and he got that

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Speaker 8: second chance as he's kind of figuring out who he's

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Speaker 8: supposed to be. It wasn't all of a sudden, I

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Speaker 8: get asked a lot, well, oh, that game against the Falcons,

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Speaker 8: that kind of come out of nowhere.

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Speaker 4: No, he had built up to that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And if you.

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Speaker 8: Kind of watch how things happen. The first game he

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Speaker 8: comes back against Denver was okay, look better, played a

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Speaker 8: little looser, but was okay. Then they beat the Saints,

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Speaker 8: who end up firing Dennis Allen a day or two after.

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Speaker 7: Then they beat the.

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Speaker 8: Giants in Munich again, who weren't very good. Then you

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Speaker 8: got a bye week with Kansas City Tampa Philly right

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Speaker 8: after the buy and we were all still, let's put

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Speaker 8: a toe in the water, but we're not ready to

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Speaker 8: go all the way into the water. We're not ready

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Speaker 8: to wade even ways steep. And then he goes toe

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Speaker 8: to toe with Mahomes. They should have beat Tampa lost

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Speaker 8: that game by fumbling and plus territory in overtime and

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Speaker 8: they catch the ball against Philadelphia, they might beat the Eagles,

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Speaker 8: and all of a sudden, you're going, I think we

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Speaker 8: found the guy, and all we needed was a little

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Speaker 8: bit of patience. And I think he got to be

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Speaker 8: reminded that sometimes at that position, and you guys have

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Speaker 8: seen enough football, it takes a little bit of time.

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Speaker 6: And it's what a lot of people won't afford a

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Speaker 6: young quarterback. It's the organization or the fans, and especially

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Speaker 6: when they see Jayden Daniels or CJ. Stroud doing well,

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Speaker 6: like the end of the fans in Chicago, or Cam Newton.

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Speaker 6: Exactly why is Caleb not doing what Jayden's doing? Why

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Speaker 6: is Bryce not doing what CJ's doing? It's the one

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Speaker 6: thing we have in the shortest supply out there, and

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Speaker 6: that's patients, And well, why isn't he turning to this?

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Speaker 6: And you just give it time? Give it time. The

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Speaker 6: guy won a modern day, he won at Alabama. He's

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Speaker 6: very he's a great quarterback. Just let it play out.

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Speaker 6: But ask you this aniche. Had Andy not gotten hurt

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Speaker 6: in the car accident, would they have gone back to

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Speaker 6: Bryce if Andy had just kind of kept him on

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Speaker 6: a steady course.

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Speaker 3: That is a great question.

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Speaker 4: I think they would have.

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Speaker 8: I think part of it too, was after Andy had

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Speaker 8: the first win against Vegas and played really well. He

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Speaker 8: had kind of shown what he is at this stage

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Speaker 8: of his career. And that's no knock on Andy, but

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Speaker 8: you know, he's a guy on the wrong side of thirty.

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Speaker 8: He is a backup quarterback right now. I think at

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Speaker 8: some point they probably would have turned back to Bryce.

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Speaker 8: That probably expedited the process, I would think by a.

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Speaker 7: Few weeks though.

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Speaker 1: All right, one more for you. We're taking a poll

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Speaker 1: fourth and twenty. Are you in instead of the on

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Speaker 1: side kick? And what about the kickoff touchback? Moving to

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Speaker 1: the thirty five? You want to see that.

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Speaker 3: I want to go back to the old kickoff rules.

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Speaker 1: You're Likenre's gonna love you more than me.

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Speaker 8: I gotta be honest. The whole dynamic kickoff, I don't know,

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Speaker 8: like you want to bring the return back, but I

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Speaker 8: just didn't think it was dynamic enough to be called

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Speaker 8: the dynamic kickoff. And you know, with the on side kick,

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Speaker 8: I've always liked the element of surprise with the on

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Speaker 8: side kick. Think of the Super Bowl between the Saints

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Speaker 8: and the Colts Sean Payton that changed the game. You

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Speaker 8: cannot do that now. You have to declare it, and

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Speaker 8: you can only do it in the fourth quarter. Only

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Speaker 8: do it if you're losing. I like the element of surprise, right,

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Speaker 8: That's that's sun Zoo, the art of war. Right, your

682
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Speaker 8: enemy expects one thing, you do the other. I mean,

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Speaker 8: I've always felt that, you know, you can only legislate

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Speaker 8: so much, and I think we're maybe a little too

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Speaker 8: deep in the cookie jar.

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Speaker 6: I mean, what would Pat McAfee be without the on

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Speaker 6: site surprise on Thursday night. I mean, you gotta, you gotta, yeah,

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Speaker 6: you and andre are lockstep in that. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I you know, whatever shakes up.

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Speaker 7: I didn't really love it. I thought they could do

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Speaker 7: a little bit more.

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Speaker 6: But if they moved kicker back and then they have

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Speaker 6: touchbacks to the thirty five, I think you'll get that

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Speaker 6: many more returns, And to me, that opens up a

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Speaker 6: whole different element for your team. Like for us, we

696
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Speaker 6: had Damian Pierce running back, you know, a backup running

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Speaker 6: back that really couldn't kind of find his way. All

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Speaker 6: of a SUDDENY put him back on kickoffs and it's like, oh,

699
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Speaker 6: we might have found something. Yeah, and it gives a

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Speaker 6: whole different element to the game. Okay, we can dominate

701
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Speaker 6: this now because we got all these returns. And so

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Speaker 6: he catched a couple of years deep and he'd go

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Speaker 6: and we'd be like, all right, go ahead, because he's

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Speaker 6: going to get.

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Speaker 4: To the thirty.

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Speaker 8: And imagine if you're the third or fourth string running

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Speaker 8: back or the fifth wide receiver. Yea, and now you

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Speaker 8: show that, Hey, I'm getting opportunities to show what I

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Speaker 8: can do in the return game.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 8: That lengthens your career.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Are you doing some college basketball? What other sports

714
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Speaker 2: do you do? Any?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: So I fly out tonight and then I go to

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Speaker 8: Clemson tomorrow, short drive from Charlotte, Notre Dame, Clemson. So

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Speaker 8: college basketball, college lacrosse, Major League baseball, college football, and

719
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Speaker 8: the NFL, and that we're gonna stop right there.

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Speaker 2: That's all good enough, that's all And these thanks guy?

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Speaker 4: Are you all right?

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Speaker 1: There's a niche shrop from ESPN Voice of the Carolina Panthers,

723
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Speaker 1: ESPN College Football Basketball, All sorts of stuff coming up.

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Speaker 1: Let's dig into the AFC South with Frank Franchie, Voice

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Speaker 1: of the Jacksonville Jaguars, here from the Combine. It's Texans Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, final segment tonight, let's dig into the AFC

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Speaker 1: South Voice of the Jaguars, Frank Franjie joins Johnny and

728
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Speaker 1: I on Combine Radio.

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Speaker 2: Row from Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on here, Mark, you and Johnny.

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Speaker 4: I love coming by here. And we're all close together now,

732
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Speaker 4: we're kind of we're kind of like mates. We're like

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Speaker 4: Combine mates next to each other. Cool.

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Speaker 6: I was talking to Mark about this, Frank. It was

735
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Speaker 6: twenty fifteen ouns my first one, and I remember there

736
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Speaker 6: were like eight tables outside the West Club, eight and

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Speaker 6: now they're I think there were sixty four when I counted.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's just amazing how this thing has grown

739
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Speaker 6: for you. You get a chance to do your show.

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Speaker 7: Live here, but you get kind of the same thing

741
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Speaker 7: out of this.

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Speaker 6: You get a chance to talk to Liam, get a

743
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Speaker 6: chance to talk to James Gladstone's just hired.

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Speaker 7: Is that what you get out of.

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Speaker 6: This the most, just doing your show and then get

746
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Speaker 6: a chance to kind of catch up with coaching GM.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think so. Now Listen, I'm fortunate enough John that

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Speaker 4: that I you know, in our jobs, we get to

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Speaker 4: talk to him anyway. But I think this is the

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Speaker 4: best chance I have early on for our listeners to

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Speaker 4: hear from them, you know. So I think that's part

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Speaker 4: of it. I think the other part of it is

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Speaker 4: it does have a convention feel to it. But how

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Speaker 4: many I mean we have this, Martin, No, does we

756
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Speaker 4: have this this group text with all the playbook play

757
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Speaker 4: guys on it. And how many of those guys we

758
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 4: bumped into. I probably bumped into ten of them in

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Speaker 4: the last air. So it's got a convention feel to

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Speaker 4: it for us. I think for our listener. To your point,

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Speaker 4: we're always gonna have the coach I always at the GM,

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Speaker 4: but Sell he's coming by tomorrow now that he's in

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Speaker 4: a critical role there. Yeah, so I think we get

764
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Speaker 4: to get to spend some time with some of the

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Speaker 4: critical guys.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I need to get him on the show.

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Speaker 1: Tony Biselli Original Texan first, the expansion draft.

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Speaker 7: He does speak about Houston, well, he does.

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Speaker 6: He talks about it, you know well, and I mean,

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Speaker 6: I know it's a difficult situation, but he talks about

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Speaker 6: the McNair's, he talks about the great guy.

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Speaker 4: Well, he really liked me and Lance Berkman who came

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Speaker 4: big Buddies. Okay, so his only as I tell him,

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Speaker 4: the only thing he knows about baseball is that he

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Speaker 4: and Berkman were buddies. That's all he's got. But he

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Speaker 4: liked his time and hughes. He thought it was a

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Speaker 4: good place to just you know, the timing was such

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Speaker 4: and he was hurt.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he liked it. That it didn't work out.

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Speaker 1: Frank Francie voiced the Jaguars with it with us, So

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Speaker 1: I've nicknamed your front office brass the brat Pack.

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Is that? Am I the first one to come up

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Speaker 2: with that?

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Speaker 4: You might be the first one to have come up

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Speaker 4: with a moniker, probably not the first one with the concept.

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Speaker 4: It's a young group, yeah, and I don't.

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Speaker 2: Think that's an insult.

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Speaker 7: By the way.

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Speaker 1: I saw that brat Pack docuseries. Yeah, good, and they

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Speaker 1: were all down on the name.

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Speaker 4: But then they was the one that was really down,

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Speaker 4: but he was bitter guy.

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Speaker 2: It's a great.

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Speaker 1: Name, they're young, and it plays off rat Pack, which

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Speaker 1: is a beloved group.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 4: I first of all, wonderfully creative by you, per usual? Uh?

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Speaker 4: On that I like these guys, Mark, I think, listen,

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Speaker 4: I'm a glasses half full guy. I always find myself

801
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Speaker 4: thinking that the best is gonna happen. Too many times

802
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Speaker 4: it hasn't. But I will say this, they needed a rebooty,

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00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 4: they needed to re I'm a big Doug Peterson. I

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00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 4: like Doug. I hated to see Doug get fired, but

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Speaker 4: I thought, big picture, they needed a reboot and I

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Speaker 4: and I think they have. The beauty of this thing

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00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 4: is Tony's in his early fifties, but he's new to this.

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00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 4: Liam Cohen is thirty nine, first time head coach, James

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Speaker 4: Glassdale thirty four, first time GM. So they're they're they're

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Speaker 4: entering the world together. They're gonna make some mistakes because

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Speaker 4: I think young people will. They'll tell you that. But

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Speaker 4: I like the fact that I think the the buzzwords

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Speaker 4: now are alignment, right yep uh, and that that's the

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Speaker 4: big buzzword. And and I think I think there's you're

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Speaker 4: gonna have alignment now. And I think they feel because

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Speaker 4: they're all coming in together, I think you're gonna have that.

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Speaker 7: So let's talk about Trevor Lawrence Frank.

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Speaker 6: We obviously saw him go out of our game and

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Speaker 6: we won't talk about that, but the.

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Speaker 4: Level Jackson'll talk about that, so please continue.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the level of importance.

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Speaker 6: I feel kind of weird stating its sway, but the

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Speaker 6: level of importance of Trevor Lawrence to the Jaguars in

824
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Speaker 6: twenty twenty five, it feels like he has to take

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Speaker 6: it to a different level.

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Speaker 7: He's got a first year head coach that he's got

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Speaker 7: a vibe with.

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Speaker 6: If not, I know, you just got you know, just

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Speaker 6: got the money and all that kind of stuff, got

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Speaker 6: the contract.

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Speaker 7: What is the level of importance to Trevor? Is it

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Speaker 7: about Trevor?

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Speaker 6: If Trevor can get to another level, do the Jaguars

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Speaker 6: go to another level?

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Speaker 7: Do they have enough around him to get there? Give

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Speaker 7: us your thoughts on Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, that's where the league is, John, Yeah,

838
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 4: you go as your quarterback goes. There's almost no exceptions anymore.

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Speaker 4: That's there used to be exceptions. There really aren't anymore.

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Speaker 4: You go as your quarterback goes. So of course it's important. Sure,

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Speaker 4: I'll say this. My experience has been and all the

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Speaker 4: years all of us have been around this stuff. Quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: are generally at their best years five through ten, five

844
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Speaker 4: through eleven. I mean we've seen Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 4: How many guys the light goes on from sometimes at

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Speaker 4: the second or third place. Trevor's about to start his

847
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Speaker 4: fifth year now. He's been with a lot of regimes,

848
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 4: which isn't the best thing in the world, a lot

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Speaker 4: of coaches, a lot of offensive coordinators. But he's starting

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Speaker 4: his fifth year. I think he's healthy.

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Speaker 3: He is not.

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Speaker 4: He got hurt last year in year game, but he

853
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 4: was hurt the year before, four different injuries. I think

854
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 4: he's healthy and I think he needed to reboot. I

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00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 4: think they're so. I'll say this about Trevor. Trevor's a pleaser.

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Speaker 4: He's that kind of kids kid. He's twenty five years

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Speaker 4: old as that kind of book. He's a pleaser. He

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00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,959
Speaker 4: wants to make everybody happy. And I think he's felt

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00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 4: like the weight of the world was on his shoulders. Well,

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Speaker 4: the one thing Liam Cohen can do for him and

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Speaker 4: I think will is the way of the world's not

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Speaker 4: of your shoulder, Just play football. I think he's really good.

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Speaker 4: I really think that. I think it's all in there.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm at some point I've believed he was

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Speaker 4: going to take a Josh Allen like leap. Josh Allen

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Speaker 4: went from being ordinary possible bust. Did we get it

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Speaker 4: wrong to be in one of the best two or

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Speaker 4: three players in the National Football League. I think Trevor's

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Speaker 4: going to take that simple.

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Speaker 1: See what are the other needs on offense? Frank for

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars going into twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: Five, the line of scrimmage mark, they gotta be better. Guard, center,

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Speaker 4: guard gotta be better. The two big things went wrong

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Speaker 4: with their team from a personal standpoint my opinion last

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Speaker 4: year safety playing the big the deep balls over the top,

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Speaker 4: that's what got him beatn just about every game, and

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Speaker 4: they just weren't very good at the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 4: So offensively, to your question, Ezra Cleveland's probably going to

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Speaker 4: be their left guard, they paid him. I'm not sure

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Speaker 4: Mitch Morris plays much longer as their center. Brandon Sheriff

881
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 4: is their right guard. I would think they addressed those

882
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 4: two spots so offensively, Yeah, one more receiver to go

883
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 4: opposite Brian Thomas Junior, who looks like he's gonna be

884
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 4: a really good player. But I think the interior, that

885
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: line man they gotta get. They got it on both

886
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 4: lines of scrimmage. They got to get better.

887
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 6: So along those lines they trade Cam Robinson last year?

888
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 6: Was that more of just Cam just it wasn't fitting anymore.

889
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 7: They wanted to see more of Walker Little?

890
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 6: And what do you think of Walker Houstonian that is

891
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 6: now in Jacksonville left tackle?

892
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 4: First of all, Cam, he got ticked off, he got hurt.

893
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 4: They dressed and weren't going to play him. He got upset,

894
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 4: he got upset about it. He he made it known

895
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 4: he was upset about it. He was gone the next Sunday,

896
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 4: all right. So so that's one of the things that happened.

897
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: There's morely more to it than that. That's a very

898
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 4: and that's not a pride. That's very public story now

899
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 4: that he and at least in Jacksonville's very public story

900
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 4: that that it was. It was he wasn't buying anymore

901
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 4: and it was time. One of the reasons you could

902
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 4: do that is because you got Walker Little. They like

903
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 4: Walker Little. They think Walker Little is gonna be a

904
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 4: good player. He's got a chance to be a very

905
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 4: good player. They like their tackles, Walker Little their left tackle.

906
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 4: Now it gets to be his job. Remember he played

907
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 4: down the stretch two years ago when they had that

908
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 4: really good finish. He was a cam was hurt, so

909
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 4: he was their left tackle and Anton Harrison the right

910
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 4: tackle they think is going to be a star. There

911
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 4: was even talk with a previous regime of flipping them,

912
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 4: playing Anton on the left side and Walker on the

913
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 4: right side. I don't sense that's what this group's gonna do.

914
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 4: But they got to get better at the lightest scrimmage.

915
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 4: Their offensive line, the defensive line have to play better.

916
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: Frank Franzi voiced the Jaguars with US update us on

917
00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: the stadium situation downtown, the whole juvenition of it all.

918
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 4: They're doing a good job. They're building a four seasons

919
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 4: hotel right now. They're rebuilding that Marina area. Yeah yeah, right.

920
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 4: John used to coach at episcol right across the river

921
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 4: from your old stomping grounds. But the uh, but they're

922
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 4: the stadium deal mark is nothing changes this year? Okay,

923
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 4: nothing nothing, Nothing changes for the twenty five season, the

924
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 4: twenty sixth season, then the construction will really be underway.

925
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 4: They're going to play in a sort of half full stadium.

926
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 4: Capacity is going to be forty three thousand, Okay, So

927
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 4: they're going to play in about a half is they

928
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 4: is they start working on the Upper Deckson Foundation or whatnot?

929
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 4: Twenty seven they won't play there. Twenty seven the games

930
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 4: will the home games will either be in Orlando or Gainesville.

931
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 4: And then twenty eighth, I'll open the stadium and it's

932
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 4: it's if the renderings are true. Man, it's going to

933
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 4: be a beautiful, state of the art, nothing like its stadium.

934
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 4: It's going to have a roof but not side.

935
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 2: What price tag do you know?

936
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one point five I think is where they landed.

937
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 4: I think I think they landed at one point five

938
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 4: was the final It's gonna be similar in structure or

939
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 4: in concept to so fine and so far was four

940
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 4: point five because it's way bigger and more to it.

941
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 4: But it's, uh, one point five is where they landed.

942
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 4: And uh and it's a it's a pretty much a split.

943
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 4: The city's gonna pay more than the Jags, but they're

944
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 4: both gonna be involved. And uh, I'm telling you it's

945
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 4: gonna beautiful. So I said twenty twenty eight season.

946
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 7: It's amazing to think because the mayor of Jacksonville.

947
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 4: Is Donna Degan and when I was there.

948
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, she was don A hicken right, and she was

949
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 6: on the news with her husband Dan hicken right. And

950
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 6: now she's the mayor because I was Rinas like, man

951
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 6: that she looks familiar. Yeah, and she's the mayor of

952
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 6: Jacksonville now, And she was obviously instrumental in all that.

953
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 6: But Frank, you and I we talked about this for

954
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 6: years and Mark and I have talked about this too.

955
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 6: Where the stadium is and having that access to the river, right,

956
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 6: I'm like, man, you could just crush it if you

957
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 6: could start building and doing things down there. And it

958
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 6: feels like what got them through all of that, what

959
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 6: got shot to the point where they can do all that?

960
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 4: Well, that's a great question, John, two or three, I'm

961
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 4: gonna answer the question the layers. Number one. I'm born

962
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 4: and raised there. I'm from Jacksonville. Not developing that river

963
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 4: area is one of the greatest misses of our city's history.

964
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 4: It's a big miss. If you look at all the

965
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 4: others did, look at Pittsburgh and at Paul part look

966
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 4: at look at look at San Antonio, and we can

967
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 4: go on and on. When you have a river like that,

968
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 4: it's a jewel. Man, And take advantage of it, and

969
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 4: they haven't done so. Shod to his credit, has always

970
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 4: wanted to, but you got to get buy in from

971
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 4: the city. The previous mayor was very Lenny Curry was

972
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 4: a very good proponent of all that, but couldn't get

973
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 4: the council on board. Now the mayor and the council

974
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 4: are on the same page. It's just been you haven't

975
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 4: got the political entities. John have never been aligned and

976
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 4: I think they are now. And it's going to be

977
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 4: a beautiful area and it is a but it's a

978
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 4: bit a big miss that they haven't developed that area.

979
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 4: But but I think in four or five years people

980
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 4: won't be able to believe how beautiful that part of

981
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 4: downtown is.

982
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: I really think that voice of the Jaguars Frank Franchie

983
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: with us. Shad Khan also owns Fulham in the Premier League.

984
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: And when Johnny and I went to a game at

985
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen and the Texans played the Tags, they were

986
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: not in the Premier League. They were a level down,

987
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: but they jumped up Championship League. I get confused with

988
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: all that English soccer stuff, but it's very fascinating to me. Nonetheless,

989
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: now how much overlap. Is there the organizations. Do people

990
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: in Jags marketing help out Fulham? Is there any kind

991
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: of overlap here of resources as far as the two

992
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: clubs go.

993
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm the wrong one to ask because I don't

994
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 4: know the details, but I do know the answers. Yes,

995
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 4: I just don't know. I just don't know to what degree.

996
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, Shaw's entities are Shaw's entities, and I can

997
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: tell you the people the Jaguar Brass is very emotionally

998
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 4: invested in Fulham. It's not like they're separate. Okay, They're

999
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 4: very They're very emotion I'm telling you. We got you

1000
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 4: get on a bus at the at the stadium heading

1001
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 4: to the airport and Fulham's playing every iPad, every phone

1002
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 4: is locked in. Okay, so there's a real connection. I

1003
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 4: would think Mark Lamping, the owner of the owner, the

1004
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 4: the the president of the team, who managed the business side,

1005
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 4: Chad Johnson, the corporate operation, the COO are very invested.

1006
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 4: They spend a lot of time in London. Part of

1007
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 4: that now is about the London Games. But I would

1008
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 4: think Fullham as well. Tony kahn Son runs that team. Okay,

1009
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 4: so there's a lot of connections between the two. It's

1010
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 4: not just two separate entities that don't connect. That's not

1011
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 4: the way it is at all.

1012
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 6: Frank, we can talk to you about NFL for so long,

1013
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 6: but we know, and I've done it for a long time.

1014
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 6: You're a huge Pittsford Pittsburgh Pirates fan. Yeah, Dave Parker

1015
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 6: goes in the Hall of Fame this year. I mean

1016
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,479
Speaker 6: as a Pirates fan seeing him go so long without

1017
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 6: getting in the Hall of Fame.

1018
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 7: How cool was that to see him getting out?

1019
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm a die John knows that I'm a die hard.

1020
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: Happened.

1021
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 4: My uncle was the third base coach of the the

1022
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 4: big league team. My mom and dad are from Johnstown,

1023
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 4: which is, yeah, fifty miles on Pittsburgh slap shot. Yeah,

1024
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 4: there you go. So every Christmas in summer I'd spend

1025
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 4: up there with my mom's family and and my cousins

1026
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 4: are all there. They're all Pirates fans and Steelers fans

1027
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 4: and Penguins fans. Well, my uncle was the third base

1028
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 4: coach of the Pirates when I'm a kid, and so

1029
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 4: I get to know the picket, to know the Pirates players.

1030
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 4: So in fact, I'll tell you a good story. I'm

1031
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 4: going way too long on your thing here, but I'll

1032
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 4: tell you a fun story. When I was nine years old,

1033
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 4: my uncle's brother was taking me, or a brother in

1034
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 4: law was taking me around to meet all the players.

1035
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 4: They had a holding area in the Pittsburgh Airport, so

1036
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 4: it was just theirs. They had a putting green in there,

1037
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 4: and they're waiting. You flew commercial back then, but they

1038
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 4: were waiting to get on the plane. This was when

1039
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 4: I was again, this was I'm born in fifty eight,

1040
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 4: so this is nineteen sixty seven, okay, So I'm getting

1041
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 4: to know the players a little bit. This actually actually

1042
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 4: it was ten of the year earlier. Bay long story short.

1043
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 4: I get the al Oliver and Mattie Alou and Roberto Clemente,

1044
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 4: and I'm getting to know them all and getting their autographs.

1045
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 4: I had an airline ticket, the big ticket bracket, all

1046
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 4: all of these autus. So I'm getting all these so

1047
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 4: my uncle, but I was too shy to ask. I'm

1048
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 4: nine years old, ten years old. So my uncle was like, hey,

1049
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: this is Frank from Florida. He wants an autography. Aea

1050
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 4: we get to Willie Stargum. I was a big Stargell fan.

1051
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 4: I were number eight right, I was a big Stargell fan.

1052
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 4: Stargell's sitting down playing cards with Al Oliver and Jose Pegan,

1053
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 4: and my uncle says, hey, mister Chargo, this is my

1054
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 4: nephew Frank from Florida. He's ten years old. He would

1055
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 4: love your autograph. He didn't get up here very often.

1056
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 4: Stargo looked at him, looked up at me, and he said, nope,

1057
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 4: look back down. I'm devastated because you hear your Starge

1058
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 4: is the greatest guy ever, the most wonderful Pops right

1059
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 4: before he was Pops. And my uncle missus Starge, we

1060
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 4: won't take along.

1061
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 7: He didn't.

1062
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,959
Speaker 4: Frank didn't get up here very often. He would really

1063
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 4: love this. Looked at my look at me. Look my

1064
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 4: uncle said nope, he says, Now, you tell your nephew

1065
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 4: Frank from Florida to introduce himself to me. Yep me

1066
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 4: in the eye, just shake my hand, tell me where

1067
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 4: he goes, tell me where he goes to school, tell

1068
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 4: me if he plays baseball. And then once I've gotten

1069
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 4: to know him, I'd love to sign his autograph. Well,

1070
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 4: I stuck out my hand. I said, my name is

1071
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 4: Frank Franjie. I am in the sixth grade. I live

1072
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 4: in Jacksonville, Florida. I played for the San Susi Cardinals

1073
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 4: and I make pretty good grades. And he shook my hand.

1074
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 4: He said, nice to meet you, Frank Franzie from jackson floyd.

1075
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 4: We talked for fifteen minutes while he played cards. I've

1076
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 4: been shaking people's hands ever since. That's one hundred percent

1077
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 4: true story. And I'll be and I'll be a Pirates Oh,

1078
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 4: I love it. Teach a man to fish right. Know

1079
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 4: what I've never I've told that story. It's speaking engagements

1080
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 4: and everywhere I've been, and so I'm a diehard Pirates fan.

1081
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 4: Say park that day, Parker's going in. It's great, that's awesome.

1082
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: Frank. We know you got to get on the air.

1083
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 2: We appreciate your time. Thank you very much.

1084
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 4: Great to be here. Thanks boys.

1085
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: There's Frank Francie voice at the Jacksonville Jaguars tomorrow night,

1086
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: six o'clock.

1087
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: Right out of the shoot.

1088
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: Nick Cassario, executive vice president and general manager of Your Texans,

1089
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: plus plenty of other Combine guests along the way.

1090
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Speaker 2: This show will be in.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back at Indie tomorrow. Have a great night,

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Speaker 2: Go Texans.