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Speaker 1: Good morning, Jerry. How are you doing, Sean r J.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great today and really good to be on

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Speaker 1: with you, and doesn't feel good to be nine and four, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and it feels good in our opinion. We've been doing

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Speaker 1: this show, I think eleven years here, Jerry, and we

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Speaker 1: cannot remember a time where we were as excited for

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Speaker 1: to get after the quarterback next. Are you sharing that

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Speaker 1: same defensive excitement? I sure am, I think it. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: I do have to go back to the early nineties

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Speaker 1: enough that to drop off wasn't as distinguished from one

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Speaker 1: to the other, and that let them really have the

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Speaker 1: numbers of plays that keeps them fresh. And that's a

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Speaker 1: big deal. And we were on that the other night.

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Speaker 1: We all were anxiously awaiting to see Gregory and Lawrence

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Speaker 1: and see Parsons out there at the same time. But

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Speaker 1: the interior, those guys with OSA as well as the

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Speaker 1: was really really rewarding to see. It's hard to handle.

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Speaker 1: We know it presents a lot of problems. We have

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Speaker 1: be a pressure player. So it's really good to see.

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Speaker 1: There's no question it's the strength of the team. Normally

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Speaker 1: this time of year, everybody's to some degree struggling with

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Speaker 1: some adjustments. We certainly are having to make hours. But

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Speaker 1: this is unique and rare to see this influx of

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Speaker 1: this kind of talent joined a team that this kind

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Speaker 1: of year, this time of year. So you said it

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Speaker 1: was the d strake of the team. So you think

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Speaker 1: this is the better unit than the offense right now, Well,

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Speaker 1: I said the certainly, we've played that way the other day.

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Speaker 1: You know, this thing is a balance, it's a continual adjusting.

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Speaker 1: We're certainly going through that right now. On our offense.

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Speaker 1: We know this offense what it's capable of. We've seen it.

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Speaker 1: There's an old laddage in football about a player, once

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Speaker 1: you've seen him do it. You know, we can do it.

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Speaker 1: You've just got to figure out ways and circumstances to

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Speaker 1: put him in a position to do it. Well. We've

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Speaker 1: got to have seen our offense click. We can get

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Speaker 1: it clicking. There's no question in my mount that much

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Speaker 1: rather be dealing from this vantage point of where we've

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Speaker 1: seen him do it individually. I've got the real confidence

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Speaker 1: that we can get better there over these next four

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Speaker 1: ball games. Jerry Mica is like becoming a superstar. Everyone

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Speaker 1: around the whole country is talking about him. Brian brought us,

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Speaker 1: you know very well, probably unfortunately, you know very well

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Speaker 1: worse with us, said, he said, don't be so hard, Jerry.

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Speaker 1: He said he didn't see this pass rushing on his

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Speaker 1: Penn State tape, that maybe they were planning to use

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Speaker 1: them there before he sat out for the season. How

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Speaker 1: did y'all see this with the pass rushing ability based

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Speaker 1: upon him coming out? Oh, I saw it, and we

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Speaker 1: said we did see it. Now we saw it from

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Speaker 1: the inside. I was skeptical that he could be effective

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Speaker 1: and especially the type of interior players he was going

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Speaker 1: to play against. But if you recall in the draft,

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Speaker 1: we saw it from the inside, but we didn't see

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Speaker 1: the speed, the burst, that's when that took over in

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Speaker 1: just certainly impressive. What you saw was his size, weight, speed.

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Speaker 1: You saw him do it on the inside some and

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Speaker 1: right here on one to five through the fan, I

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Speaker 1: know how you feel about comparisons. I know they're getting

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Speaker 1: coming up are the Lawrence Taylor comparisons crazy for him. Well,

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Speaker 1: I won't make a comparison for the very reason you

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Speaker 1: He's just unbelievably established this kind of awareness of just

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Speaker 1: He really doesn't have to have a comparison at this point.

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Speaker 1: He's having that kind of production on the field. Jared,

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Speaker 1: it's not been happening recently. Do you think DAK isn't

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Speaker 1: that slump, but that's a that's probably fair. But it's

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Speaker 1: such a multi faceted evaluation. But I would say that

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Speaker 1: five and six games ago. From the standpoint of production.

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Speaker 1: What the opposing defenses have to do with it needs

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Speaker 1: that we'll need to come out and get more production

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Speaker 1: from our offense. Is Dak healthy, Yes he is, Yes

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Speaker 1: and some say, well as mechanics are off a little bit,

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Speaker 1: that's discussed. But is there merit to it. I don't

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Speaker 1: That's the key thing here. He has no superior in

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Speaker 1: working on it, studying it, taking it to the practice field, repetition.

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Speaker 1: He is good or better than anybody I've ever seen,

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Speaker 1: and so he will give you. He will mentally and

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Speaker 1: is mentally trusting his body? Excuse me, I missed that conversation.

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Speaker 1: Do you think mentally he trusts his body that he's healthy? Yes?

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Speaker 1: how he extends and play, but whether he runs with

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Speaker 1: play spart you've got to Availability is right there with ability,

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Speaker 1: as we know from time a year ago with him.

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Speaker 1: The other day, I said, you know another example why

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Speaker 1: they're the Dallas Cowboys and America's team, because no other

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Speaker 1: much it became such a big deal, Jerry, with what

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Speaker 1: this one up to vendors. You got got pretty aggressive

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Speaker 1: day in between plays and between the quarters, in between games,

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Speaker 1: all year round, there's always something, and the Cowboys lead

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Speaker 1: the way. But certainly that's the NFL. Jerry Jones here

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Speaker 1: With you guys, sitting pretty in the east right now,

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Speaker 1: it's not over and the Giants struggling. Do you think

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Speaker 1: healthy game? Jerry Tyrn looking like he's going to be out.

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Speaker 1: this be a get healthy opportunity against the Giants? Not

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Speaker 1: at all, Not at all. We've got to play this

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Speaker 1: and if anything, we saw that that's not the case.

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Speaker 1: And boy, they've got players they whoever you're playing, how

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Speaker 1: players that can make those plays, make those in ordinance plays,

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Speaker 1: you know it, you're right there and fight. And that's

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Speaker 1: that's what makes this thing so so interesting. But no,

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Speaker 1: we'll we'll go to New York as though everything's on

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Speaker 1: the line. Would you play that one? Would you like

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Speaker 1: McCarthy to guarantee this one too, and does everyone here

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Speaker 1: he recovered completely. But the point is we've done such

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Speaker 1: Let's keep it going, have a good trip to New York,

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