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Speaker 1: I'm like, what, let me see this guy looks like

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Speaker 1: And I was checking out too. I saw Oj Howard

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Speaker 1: today and I saw he's Tim Settle too, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, and that, I'll say this, I've and we've

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Speaker 1: had it. We've gone the entire full circle, you and

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Speaker 1: I over the course of our time here. We've both

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Speaker 1: been here a couple of decades at least. Right, this team,

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Speaker 1: they got some traits. They got guys who walk off

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Speaker 1: the bus and you're like going, oh God, look at that.

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Speaker 1: Who is that? He like, they're unbelieved, their head turners. Great,

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Speaker 1: I didn't. That's exactly what I did. Great rock by.

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Speaker 1: I looked up at him. I was like, because he

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Speaker 1: had a tank top on, like you know, cut off sleeves. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so the guns were out and I walked by, I

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Speaker 1: like saw his arms. I was like, those didn't look

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Speaker 1: like that last year. And then as he passed me

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Speaker 1: turned around again, I was like, did I see that? Right?

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Speaker 1: Is huge? So they you know, they like, well you

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Speaker 1: expect it though. They're a team that's favored by a

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Speaker 1: lot of people to win the Super Bow, not just

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Speaker 1: get their favored to win the super Bowl. They're they're

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Speaker 1: people are looking at this team like, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: You know they saw the way they finished the season

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Speaker 1: last year where everybody was screaming about the overtime rules

447
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Speaker 1: being changed because they you know, they lost the coin flip. Unbelievable,

448
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Speaker 1: But that's that's the way they should look. And the

449
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 1: man they filled the Bill And again, that's an example

450
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Speaker 1: of finding a guy with Bill's DNA, a guy that's

451
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Speaker 1: going to put the work in in the off season

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Speaker 1: to make that transformation to make himself a better player

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Speaker 1: on that. That's why I'm saying this guy woulds I mean, like, okay,

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Speaker 1: he's a pretty good player and all that, but is

455
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Speaker 1: it his thing, you know, or is it gonna be

456
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Speaker 1: one of those guys you have to like has he

457
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Speaker 1: just been good because he's been big in every level

458
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Speaker 1: of football. Got somebody on your training staff that all

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Speaker 1: they do is they meet him at the door in

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Speaker 1: the morning and they and they're on him all day.

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Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go, let's go. I don't know, that's

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Speaker 1: that's a crusher if you got to do that. We've

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Speaker 1: got a fun show for you today coming up in

464
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Speaker 1: about oh seven or eight minutes. We will have Gabriel

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Speaker 1: Davis joining us here on the show as he is

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Speaker 1: part of the subjects covered in the latest embedded addition.

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Speaker 1: Our staff over at PSC puts that series together and

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Speaker 1: the latest one is being released tonight. And Gabriel Davis

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Speaker 1: was one of the subjects that they followed around down

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Speaker 1: in his offseason home in Sanford, Florida. They got him

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Speaker 1: on the fishing boat and everything. So I got talked

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Speaker 1: to him about fishing. He had a he had a

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Speaker 1: large mouth bass on his line. He lost him. His

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Speaker 1: buddy caught a big one. Might have been a gator

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Speaker 1: on Well, yeah, it's possible, but yeah, that but we'll

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Speaker 1: check in with living. He's living with his trainer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the two of them and the guys there. So they

478
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Speaker 1: got trainers, pretty good fisherman. They're shooting the shooting the

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Speaker 1: jugs machine out of the garage. Oh yeah, he's got

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Speaker 1: his Frenchy bulldog there with him watching him. That's right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And he also gives a lot of crap to Isaiah

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Speaker 1: McKenzie on the phone because he's trying to talk him

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Speaker 1: into coming up to Central Florida from South Florida to

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Speaker 1: train with him for a few days. He said he's

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Speaker 1: got a house for him and everything, and Isaiah never commits.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty fun. It's kind of funny the ongoing dialogue

487
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Speaker 1: between those two that you see them having over the phone.

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Speaker 1: So we'll talk to game about that. And about five

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Speaker 1: to eight minutes second hour of the show, it is

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Speaker 1: the mock Draft Watch finale. Our colleague, Bills reporter Maddie

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00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: glab has been hard at work compiling every mock draft

492
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Speaker 1: under the sun with any measure or shred of credibility,

493
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Speaker 1: and she has compiled the final tallies as to the

494
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Speaker 1: most popular picks for the Bills, the most popular position

495
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Speaker 1: picks for the Bills. We've sliced it and diced it

496
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Speaker 1: every which way. You can imagine. Maddie will be here

497
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Speaker 1: to break that all down for us in the second

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Speaker 1: hour of the show. So we look forward to those

499
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Speaker 1: two conversations coming up. Laramie Tunsil Steve has officially jumped

500
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Speaker 1: the shark. Good for him, I give him credit. This

501
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: is creative, so he tweeted earlier today. For the past

502
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Speaker 1: six years, I've been asked about this moment, the gas mask.

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00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: We all know what we're talking about here. When he

504
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: got drafted six years ago, video surfaced right before around

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Speaker 1: his time on the clock when he was going to

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Speaker 1: get draft theres right before the draft started. I want

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00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: to say it was somebody released a video of him

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Speaker 1: in a gas mask, smoking pot and basically holding it

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Speaker 1: inside the gas mask or a better high I can

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00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 1: only assume, so, he says, I spent six years trying

511
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: to do rather than say on the field and off

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Speaker 1: the field. I spoke with this podcast for the first

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Speaker 1: time about this moment, and today, the day before Draft Day,

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Speaker 1: I'm officially moving on and putting this moment in the past.

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Speaker 1: I'm minting a one of one NFT of the infamous

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Speaker 1: gas mask video to be listed. A portion of the

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Speaker 1: proceeds will benefit Last Prisoner PRJ, which supports those incarcerated

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Speaker 1: for cannabis offenses. And for those of you that don't

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Speaker 1: know what NFTs are, they're these non fungible tokens that

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Speaker 1: are sold online two interested buyers and then they own

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Speaker 1: the rights to that NFT. So the video is the

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Speaker 1: NFT that someone would be purchasing, and there is only one.

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Speaker 1: So he's trying to raise money for a cause that's

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00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: near and dear to him. It's a little bit ironic.

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Speaker 1: Good for him, though, but hey, talk about turning a

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Speaker 1: negative into a positive. We've been saying it. I mean,

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00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. It'll probably happen. Something's gonna come out

528
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Speaker 1: at the eleventh hour about somebody in the top five,

529
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Speaker 1: top ten of this draft. Josh Allen, had it happened

530
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Speaker 1: to him, That's right, lurimy Tunsel, Josh Allen, Um, and

531
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Speaker 1: some you know, uh, Anthony Dixon, the running back from

532
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati who the video came out of him in the

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Speaker 1: altercation with a female Joe Joe Mixon, you think Joe Mixon,

534
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: Oklahoma and um, you know, things like that, and and

535
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: the timing of it is not random. So somebody's got

536
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 1: an ax. Somebody's got an extragrunn. So we're just sitting here,

537
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, on the day before. What will happen, What

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00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: happens when, when, and who's it gonna be. Which guy

539
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Speaker 1: of this group is gonna have this pop up in

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Speaker 1: their life, whatever issue it may be that she sheds

541
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: a bad light on who they are as a person. Um,

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00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see if it happens this year. Certainly,

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00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,719
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully it doesn't happen, but yeah, people think

544
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: they can get something out of it for some reason. Yeah,

545
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: we shall see. But it will happen, you know, it

546
00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: will to somebody somewhere. Yeah, because somebody's got an ast Oh,

547
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: somebody's always got an instagrind. I've been wronged, um, yeah,

548
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: and people feel they gotta take some kind of retribution

549
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: of some kind. All right, we gotta take a break here.

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00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: When we return, we hope to have Gabriel Davis with us.

551
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: He's in and around the building. We gotta go round

552
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: him up and he'll he'll drop buck him. We will

553
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: try to find him, throw a net over him and

554
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: get him in here as we discuss the latest edition.

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Speaker 1: The latest episode of Buffalo Bills embedded. It's titled Reset, Refocus, Respond,

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Speaker 1: So we'll talk more about that when we return here

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Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live, presented by Collid to Health, It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Sit. Sit, You ain't send me, No,

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00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: you ain't send me none. Idiot. You just say you

560
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: just you just you just say stuff, just to say it.

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00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm kind of glad we don't have yours, because this

562
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: one's probably better anyway. You guys have the top BARBECUEECU.

563
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: You have the top barbecue restaurant, and you're the only

564
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: barbecue restaurant in Miami. How manly you work out for it?

565
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: Thirty minutes coaching girls flag football isn't working out. You

566
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: can't keep up with me, and we were working out

567
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: together anyway, Ask me, how many times are you coming

568
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: up here? No, pretty don't. But I'm about to go

569
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: through journal amy and bore me already. So yeah, that

570
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,719
Speaker 1: is just a small excerpt of the back and forth

571
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: jovial nature that exists. I mean, that's a snapshot of

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00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: the receiver room, high gay. But some of that stuff

573
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: go on all the time here at the facility too.

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00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: I would imagine it does because Isaiah never shuts up right.

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00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, exactly. Welcome in by the way, Yeah, we

576
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: had coached McDermott come into our meeting. We had some

577
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 1: good stories going on for the past five minutes of

578
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: our meeting. So coach definitely knows how the receiver room.

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00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, And it's it's this embedds

580
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: about the off season that you guys spent. They spend

581
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: some time with you, and yeah, obviously Isaiah and other

582
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: guys as well. What's different about your off seasons now

583
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: than than it has been? What are we going to

584
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: see in this embedded. Um, you know, just see the

585
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: way we live our lives as players, and everybody sees

586
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: us on Sunday and you know what you see on

587
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: the social media page when the season's going. But you know,

588
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: we live normal lives and do normal things, and UM

589
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: have similar hobbies to a lot of people that watch us,

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00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: and kind of just wanted to show them the other

591
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: side of football when we're not on the field. We

592
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: saw you on your fishing boat. I wish I had

593
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: more time to fish as much as maybe you get

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00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: too in the off season. But large you're going large

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00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: mouth there, right? Yeah? We were, Yeah, we were. We

596
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: just went out real quick see if we can try

597
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: and kept catch a couple of large mouth that we

598
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: were just for you know, the show and show people that,

599
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, my hobby and what I love to do.

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Speaker 1: What are you using brown worms or what do you No, No,

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00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: we were using all artificials. So we were going out

602
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: there with you know, speed worms and you know, jerk

603
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: baits and top water or whatever. We were trying to

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00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: see what they're gonna bite on. So you had a

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Speaker 1: bite on what was it a fish or yeah? No,

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Speaker 1: no it was No, it was a fish. But we

607
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: think it was. It was a big old mud fish.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, we actually had a couple more bites. My

609
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: friend was um successfully able to land like two of them,

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00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: two or three. Um. I was having a hard day.

611
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: But have you been able to Have you been able

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00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: to get out here at all and do some fishing

613
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: in your time? Yes? Last last time, around this time,

614
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: I was catching a couple of small mouth because they

615
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: were spawning, so they were on the beds and stuff.

616
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Speaker 1: And then um, in the wintertime, I was trying to

617
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Speaker 1: cut some steelheads. Still haven't haven't landed a steel head successful.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit different fishing. Yeah. Well I'm throwing

619
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: the fly too, so it's a lot of funferents. That

620
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: takes some skill now. Oh yeah. Yeah. And I don't

621
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Speaker 1: know if you've been up on Lake Ontario, but you

622
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: can do some salmon fishing down there. I mean it's yeah,

623
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Speaker 1: like they got king salmon up there, the lake stocked

624
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: with king salmon. Yeah. So we work though. Yeah, so

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00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: me and me and Jake Kumero, Okay, we were fishing

626
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: probably around I think November December. Okay, that's like over

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00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: down in the Lower Niagara, and he caught this. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't I'm not really familiar when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the you know, salmon wait and everything. But I mean

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Speaker 1: he caught a pretty big king salmon and we probably

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00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: chased that thing a hundred yards down down the water

632
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: just trying to land this fish. The joke you get

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Speaker 1: the big ones, you know, you got They got charter

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00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: guys up there to help you out too, if you need.

635
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: If you need a guy, I got a guy for you.

636
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: But they dropped those lines out four hundred fifty yards

637
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: out the back. Yeah, and Lake Ontario is like sixteen

638
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: hundred feet. One of those lines hits on the deep lines,

639
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a big I mean, like twenty five

640
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: thirty five pound fish. Yeah, we probably caught close to that.

641
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: And we were just and we were just throwing them

642
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: out there, just fishing along the Lower Niagara and hooked

643
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 1: in the You had a high test line, then that's

644
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: pretty yeah. Yeah, No, it was a lot of one.

645
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: And I caught like two walleye and I think one

646
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: of the other buddies caught a walleye think as well.

647
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: But how long how long have you been back in

648
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: town now since since whatever the Ota day was Tuesday,

649
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: this last night last Yeah, that was the So what

650
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: do you know? What is what about this? Uh this

651
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: offseason program house going. I know it's a lot of

652
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: team building, a lot of different run around in shorts

653
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: and T shirts. But yeah, no, it's always fun to

654
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: get around the guys. You haven't seen him in a while.

655
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: You know, it's good to get a break after a

656
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: long season. But then you go probably a month and

657
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, you know, time it's ready to

658
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: go back and compete again. Is there any story behind

659
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: the flex photo with Josh from the other day or

660
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: is that just there's the camera, let's just let's just

661
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: rip it. I mean I wasn't even flex and Josh

662
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: was doing all the flex and I was trying to.

663
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: If I'd have known it was gonna go over all

664
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: the social media, I would have made myself look a

665
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: little bigger. Yeah, you know, Josh kind of towering over

666
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: me a little bit. That's a tough guy to be

667
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: standing next. Yeah, exactly. So no, but it's awesome. Gladly

668
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: I see people took it and ran without seeing some

669
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: funny posts about it. Yeah, it was good. It was

670
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: all good fun. How is it gonna be the this

671
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: transition between Brian day Ball to Ken Dorsey and knows here.

672
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: How's that going. I'm just going good. I mean, my fai,

673
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a great offense, gonna be a lot

674
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: of fun. You know, Ken Dorsey has a great past

675
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: of when he played and he was a quarterback, so

676
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, you know what guys like to do like

677
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: that and already go out there and sling a little

678
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: bit and have some fun. I can't imagine what kind

679
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: of runs through your head, because you know, the game

680
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: you had in Kansas City was like a coming out

681
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: party for you individually. I know you would have taken

682
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: a win over anything like that anyway. But then it's

683
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: but then you're done, and it's like, man, I was

684
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: just dominating. Now I gotta wait nine months before I

685
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: get to get on a How how do you compartmentalize

686
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 1: all of that? Because you fight, your game finally hits

687
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: critical mass for everyone to see, ye and now you've

688
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: got to sit and wait nine months before you can

689
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: get on the field and show people again. How do

690
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: you how do you navigate that? Well? You know, you

691
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: know a lot of people take that game and they

692
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: bring it up still now to this day, and I'm

693
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: a guy who tries to, you know, leave that alone.

694
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: The passes a past, No one cares about that anymore.

695
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: That's what you're gonna do, you know now, and I

696
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: try to focus on that. Would have been good to

697
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: be able to keep performing that same year, of course,

698
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: because you know, getting on a street like that as well.

699
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: But you know it was I had the opportunity to

700
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: show what I can do. And now I'm just ready

701
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: when it starts game one to be able to show that,

702
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, it can be on a consistent basis. I

703
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: don't know about four and ten sounds a game now, Well, no,

704
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, of course, of course, discount the possibility,

705
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: but yeah, the probability may be a little bit different,

706
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: of course. So tell us a little a little bit

707
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: about you know, what do you got now that you've

708
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: been you're a wirely salty old vet. Yeah exactly. How

709
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: has how has draft day changed? What are you gonna

710
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: be doing? You guys gonna get together now that tomorrow

711
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: night you got, I mean some of you guys got

712
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: to get together and yeah, probably do something, hang out,

713
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean, especially it'll be the last day of our

714
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: practice week. You know too as well, So definitely get

715
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: the guys who stay in town. We try to hang

716
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: out and do things. We go out golfing and do

717
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Maybe we'll head to somebody's house and

718
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, turn the draft on, just hang out and

719
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: play cards or something. But definitely something I'll bring him to.

720
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: The guy part of your draft story was after you

721
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: got drafted, you went out and started running around. Start

722
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: running arounds wherever you we're in backyard or something, you're

723
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: out in the Yeah, so we were running around. Yeah.

724
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: I had my guys there, my quarterback mckensey Milling and

725
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: Trey Kuan Smith and a couple of the other guys

726
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: were there. And I know that Casey talked about earlier

727
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 1: how he wanted to throw. So we were just waiting

728
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: to see when I got drafted. Then after that we

729
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: were gonna throw. It wasn't a show for anybody to

730
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: be able to come out there and see. It was

731
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: a planned It was already planned. So whether I got

732
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: drafted that day or not, I was gonna be throwing

733
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: that day. I got um. And a lot of people

734
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: think that stuff's kind of fake um, but we do.

735
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: I do put a lot of work in. I do

736
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: put a lot of time in the craft, and that

737
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: was nothing. You know. I try to stay as humbling

738
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: and have humility in this game because it would be

739
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: taken from you whenever. Yeah, we know. I mean, you're

740
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: Gabe the grinder Man. That's like, that's that should be

741
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: your nicknames. We can't probably come up with something better.

742
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: We brought you in. We brought in because you're one

743
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: of the center pieces of this. The first episode of

744
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: this embedded for this season, and one of the things

745
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: I saw and the embedded was have dog some French bulldogs.

746
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: Have a French bulldog. I got a French bulldog and

747
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: I got a Bully XL pit named Jade as well.

748
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got a pi what's your what's your

749
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: frenchie's name? Ghost? Oh? All right? Cool? I love it. No,

750
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: he's awesome. Yeah, he's the best. He was wading across

751
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: the street there. They're hilarious, traffic lights. They're the absolute

752
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: funniest dog of all. They are he personality. Yeah, nuts,

753
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: they're they're great. So yeah, I was. I was kind

754
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: of interested to hear that. Hear that and your your

755
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: other ones a pit, Yes, a Bully XL pit bully

756
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: xcel pit. That's from Taiwan. Jones, so he breeds all right,

757
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: okay these different kind of pit bulls. And are they

758
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: larger than yeah, the larger yeah, so what are they?

759
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: Goes an American bulldog and a pit bull terrier than

760
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: they're mixed. Okay, so how how big is he? She Taiwan?

761
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 1: Taiwan has one that is one hundred and fifty pounds pounds.

762
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: That's like bull massive terrier. Yeah, I had a yeah,

763
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: I had no We've always been until we had verned

764
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: this lord Frenchie. We were always big dog people. I

765
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: had an old English massif that was at his point.

766
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: It was like two twenty six at his highest. And

767
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: it's a it's a job, it is. But but then

768
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: you get a friendshire like, oh man, this is nothing.

769
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, they're they're like a treaty. Oh yeah,

770
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: of course I would be remissed, Gabe if I did

771
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: not mention this. You are my wife's favorite players. She

772
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: used to be a huge Fred Jackson guy. Oh okay,

773
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: so you've taken over that man. So yeah, I just

774
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: I sh'd kill me if I go home and I didn't.

775
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: You are favorite players, she loves number thirteen and she's

776
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: at all the home games. So it's something when you

777
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: when I you never, I was never even my kid's

778
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: favorite players. Good for you. You got one, right, So

779
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: that one. And then I saw your training with a

780
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: bunch of guys um in the league down there, Like,

781
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 1: you know, who do you usually cross paths with before

782
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: you get back up here when you're down in Central Florida.

783
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm down there, so it's usually like the the UCF

784
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: guys I've training with LaTavia s Murray, trick One Smith, Mackenzie, Milton, um.

785
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: And then I got my homeboy Trey Nixon who's over

786
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: in New England. Um, Um, you know, cross paths with

787
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: a couple of other guys too as well, but usually

788
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: and then also I got a big one Kenny Gainwell.

789
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a big, big friend of mine and

790
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: a grinder. So he lives down there. Um yeah, he'll

791
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: live down there and trade me in the off season

792
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 1: on the running back at Philadelphia. And he's a worker

793
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be great. What what do you think

794
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: the odds are that you, at any point in any

795
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: offseason can actually get Isaiah up to Sanford from Miami

796
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: what would you lay the Oddsia, because you were trying.

797
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: I was trying, man. I try to get these guys

798
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: to come out and try. And you know, I'm confident

799
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: in the work that we do and I trusted them

800
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: what the process, and I know my process is good.

801
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: And I want to be able to bring as much

802
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: guys as I can around because it's always it always

803
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: makes it better to have guys to compete with and

804
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: also to have guys, you know, just to get better

805
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: with him and bond with last one for me before

806
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: I let you go. Um, you've been through these offseason,

807
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: these OTAs and mini camps before. What has mcdermot's How

808
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: has shun mcdermot's message this year at the earliest stage

809
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: of this year, coming in with the expectations of the

810
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: club so high. What's his message been in? How is

811
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: it different? Um? You know, we just have to focus

812
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: on what we can control and the biggest thing for

813
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: us is we know we're just that one step away

814
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: from going where we want to go, and we just

815
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: have to take that in our own hands and be

816
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: able to, you know, do what we do what we

817
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: need to do in order to get where we want

818
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 1: to get. Um, I know. The biggest thing in OTAs

819
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,959
Speaker 1: was this is bonding with the guys that man, feel

820
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: like the closer you are, the more you want to

821
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: fight on that field and one for you, one for

822
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: your brothers, and that's what we need to do. Pay Book.

823
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: It's great to have you in studio. Yeah, it's great

824
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: to see faces up close and personal again, So good

825
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: daddy in thanks for stopping by. We'll be sure to

826
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: make sure everybody's watching that embedded series because you and

827
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: Isaiah on the phone, that's that's entertainment, man, that's hilarious.

828
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: So thanks very much for the time. We appreciate us,

829
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: and good luck through the rest of the OTAs and

830
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: mini camp. We'll see your training camp. That's game Davis

831
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: joining us here on One Bills Live. We're back with

832
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: more in a moment. We'll see it. Stay tuned. One

833
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: last thing we wanted to remind you so that Buffalo

834
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: Bill's embedded episode one Reset Refocused Respond It premiers tonight.

835
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: You can find it on The Bill's YouTube channel. It

836
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: goes up at seven pm this evening, so be sure

837
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: to check it out. The interplay between Gabriel Davis and

838
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie on the phone alone. Yeah, it is enough

839
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: to watch those two guys go back and forth. It's

840
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: like Laurel and Hardy. Yeah, when you ab in Costello,

841
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: when you're in the locker room with these guys, you

842
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: can imagine. And it's and it really is one of

843
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: those stereotypes that's proven to be true. You get on

844
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: the phone with the get in the locker room and

845
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: there's nothing that's off limits or out of bounds. Time

846
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: it's talked about. And it's that same kind of attitude

847
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: that these two Doude. They absolutely abuse each other, and

848
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: it's it's like nothing they don't even it doesn't even

849
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: register on their I'm hurt meter, you know, It's like

850
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: they just keep going. Yeah, and uh, it's a lot

851
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: of fun. It's pretty reminiscent all the days that I

852
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: spend in the locker room and then to see these

853
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: guys acting like, you know, it's good. We never had

854
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: FaceTime or anything like that to day it was. It's

855
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 1: pretty fun. Good. It's a great way to stay in touch,

856
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: obviously the best way yet. And and uh, it's a

857
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: good way. And like he said, this off seat in

858
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: this time of year, and this kind of thing is

859
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: you can keep the teamwork rolling. You know, you can

860
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: kind of build teamwork and build camaraderie even when you're

861
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 1: not in the same building. It's it's a great, great tool.

862
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: Also featured in that episode is Dawson Knox, as the

863
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: crew went down to Nashville where he lives in the

864
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: off seat as well. They spent some time with him too.

865
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: So Dawson Knox, Isaiah McKenzie, Gabriel Davis all featured in

866
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: this episode of Embedded once Again, an airing tonight on

867
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: the you Bill's YouTube channel at seven p m. So

868
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: be sure to check it out there. Wanted to take

869
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: a quick phone call here before we had to go

870
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 1: to break and it's Tyler waiting for us in North Carolina.

871
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Tyler? Tyler, are you there?

872
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Yeah? I got you now, Okay,

873
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: how you guys doing We're doing good? What you got

874
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 1: for us? All right? So I had a couple of questions. One,

875
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: I was wondering, what you guys can what'd you guys

876
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 1: see as far as the biggest difference between the regime

877
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: and the front office that we have now compared to

878
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: what we had in the regime, back when Buddy Nix

879
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: and Doug Whaley were the general managers. It's just it's

880
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: it's just a clear night and day thing. But I

881
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: can't put my finger on, like, what is it that

882
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: they were doing that seemed to be wrong compared to

883
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: what Brandon Bean is doing now that has worked, like

884
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: turned so many things around. So I was hoping you

885
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: guys could explain that. And my second question is, is there,

886
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: with all of this stuff, all of his taught going on,

887
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: with the draft and the Bills, who they're gonna get

888
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: at twenty five? Is there anyone that you can see

889
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: where the Bills might be interested in trading up for.

890
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: I know me personally, I'm a big um. What's his name,

891
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: Derek Stingley. I've been a Derek Stingley fan since he

892
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: was a freshman at LSU, and I would love to

893
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: see the Bills trade up to get him. But yeah,

894
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,959
Speaker 1: those are my questions. What do you guys think? All right? Thanks? Tyler?

895
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: It depends on Tyler, depends on how far up they

896
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: have to go. I doubt that they're gonna trade up

897
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: too far, although they're they're gonna have some takers. Some

898
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: guys inquiring, but they're gonna be so high and you're

899
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay. So if now, if if teams

900
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: are desperate to get out of the top ten, and

901
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: you get a top ten pick for less than an

902
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: you know, than another first round, and whatever else goes

903
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: with it, it depends on what you got to give up.

904
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: I don't think too many team are gonna be given

905
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: up draft picks to get up a few rounds because

906
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: there's not going to be that much difference between you know,

907
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: these picks. There is a top ten pick, he's probably

908
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: gonna go in the top ten. I don't see him

909
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: getting anywhere past twelve. And I think the cost of

910
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: getting up that high from twenty five is too rich

911
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: for Buffalo. So I don't know if Stingley is going

912
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: to be in play for the Bills because the cost

913
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: is just going to be too exorbitant for Brandon being

914
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: to entertain. I don't know that there's any but now

915
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: there's probably more than one guy they would love to

916
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: have and maybe trade up to get, but they're not

917
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: going to pay the price to do it because they

918
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: draft so well that even if they sit where they're at,

919
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna get a good player to give you like,

920
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: if they do decide to move up, I'd be really

921
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: surprised if they move any higher than Pittsburgh at twenty

922
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: we're talking like a handful of picks. I think maximum

923
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: for somebody they like, really like who's somehow slid down

924
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: the board. That's the only way I could see them

925
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: going up. And I don't see him going up higher

926
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: than twenty two. Pitts Man. As for your other question

927
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: about what's different about this front office, I don't think

928
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: it's a simple question. I think that's a pretty complex

929
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: But I'll say this, it starts at the very tippy top.

930
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: It starts with Terry and Kim, the way they run things,

931
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: the freedom and the empowerment they give to Brandon Bean

932
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: and Sean McDermot. Now, Brandon and Sean have earned a

933
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: long leash for the way they've handled everything, but it

934
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: starts with Terry and Kim and the way they run

935
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: the show. That's one reason that the team's more successful

936
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: on the field. You get you well, you never saw

937
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: even with the Mario Williams thing a few years. You know,

938
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: back in the day, it was rare that you saw

939
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: the Bills be able to make a deal like a

940
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: von Miller deal this year and also extend you know

941
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: the guys they've extended, you know, the Josh Allen deal,

942
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: all these. You know, you gotta have cash flow and

943
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: Terry and Kim's willingness to write those checks and kick

944
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: it down down the road, as well as in on

945
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: draft day listening to the guys who do the film

946
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 1: work and giving them leeway, okay, go ahead. A lot

947
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: is in that, but it all starts with the very

948
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 1: tippy top and hiring the right people and then trusting

949
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: them to do the right thing. And then there's a

950
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: million moving parts after that as well. But you can

951
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: lay the success of the franchise right at the feet

952
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: of ownership and their willingness to hire the right people

953
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: and trust them. And I would just say the other

954
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: difference is Doug Whaley was GM here for essentially four seasons,

955
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: had two head coaches, a bunch of different assistant coaches,

956
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: and was still in that drought period where there was

957
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: constant churn with coaching staffs rosters. You're always retooling the roster.

958
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: There's no continuity to build on the previous year and

959
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: then build on top of that. When McDermott and being

960
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: came in. There was a clear vision and they were

961
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: given time to execute that vision, and there was patience,

962
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: there was continuity. There were also a lot of good

963
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: decisions made. Yeah, But the fact that they could finally

964
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: lay a foundation then build on that foundation without having

965
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 1: to change it here, there and everywhere, again and again

966
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: and again lends itself to building it to where it

967
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: is now. Along for a long time under the when

968
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: Russ Brandon was the president for a lot of years,

969
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: one thing they constantly struggled with was hiring the right

970
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: people at head coach and GM and all that. And

971
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: one of the reasons they struggled to do that wasn't

972
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: that they weren't willing to interview them or hire them

973
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: or even pay them. It was there getting them to

974
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: say yes. As much as I loved Ralph Wilson and

975
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: know a lot to him, when I left here in

976
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety, he was almost eighty, he's getting on here.

977
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: He was almost eighty, And that was considered an unstable

978
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: ownership situation for a lot of head coaching camp. They

979
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: didn't want to come take the job and have the

980
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: owner pass away, or having ownership change and then be

981
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: stuck here and then be out and without ever getting

982
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 1: a chance. That went on from the time Ralph was

983
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: eighty until he passed away at ninety five. There were

984
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: head coaches who were like, you know, I mean quality.

985
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 1: I've had a couple of them tell me the story

986
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: at years later. They viewed it as untenable. They viewed

987
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: it as a bad spot just because not that Ralph

988
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: was a bad guy or a bad but he was

989
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: he was frail. That was an issue for a long

990
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: long time because you know, Ralph was the owner from

991
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 1: the very beginning and it wasn't going to change until

992
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: he was gone, and nobody knew when that was gonna be.

993
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: So that was a real problem for the last decade

994
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: and a half of the franchise under Ralph's ownership. Break

995
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: time for us here, but when we come back, it

996
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: is the final mock draft. Watch Bill's reporter Mattie Glad

997
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: will be joining us as she has compiled the final

998
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: list of the most popular player and position picks for

999
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: the Bills at twenty five. What does the majority of

1000
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: all the mocks say? We find out next here on

1001
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo

1002
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker who has been all

1003
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: over her fields. Kind of unique. He was kind of

1004
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 1: a dual role player for you, Stave, Stave a blimp.

1005
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: We're not even in the stratosphere of normalcy, all right?

1006
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: Our number two? And what better thing to do the

1007
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: day before the draft than to list the final addition

1008
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,479
Speaker 1: of mock Draft Watch. Actually there is another one still

1009
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: to come on Buffalo bills dot com. But here is

1010
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: the person that has been diligently compiling and crunching the

1011
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: numbers and the names of those players mocked to the

1012
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: Bills at pick twenty five. It is our colleague and

1013
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: good friend, Maddie Glab joining us here and Maddie, it

1014
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: looks like, based on the list you have, there is

1015
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: a true consensus player that is far and away. I

1016
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: was gonna say he's above a lot of other guys.

1017
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: This is like secretariats. There's only in the bellmore's I mean,

1018
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: way out in front of everybody else, and then there's

1019
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: always one. There's one guy close to him, but not

1020
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: that you know what I mean, not that close. This guy,

1021
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: the first guy was mocked twenty two times to the Bills,

1022
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: and the other guy was seventeen times. Nobody else has

1023
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 1: more than ten, has even ten, and these guy ones

1024
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: got seventeen, ones got twenty two. Okay, tell us. So

1025
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: I went through and compiled because at this point, and

1026
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: I've updated this list again because we're gonna have one

1027
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: more mock draft come out tomorrow, So all these numbers

1028
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: that will give you right now are updated and a

1029
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: little bit different than what may be on Buffalo Bills

1030
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 1: dot com. But I have tracked one hundred and forty

1031
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: four mock drafts. I'm gonna do a couple more, probably

1032
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 1: this afternoon and some more tomorrow morning before our final

1033
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: mock Draft watch comes out. But of those one hundred

1034
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: and forty four, we made a top eight prospects list,

1035
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 1: So the prospects who were mocked to the Buffalo Bills

1036
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: the most and also gave you a top positions mocked

1037
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: to the Buffalo Bills at number twenty five. So the

1038
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 1: guy who was above everybody else by double digits is

1039
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: Andrew Booth, Junior out of Clemson, one of the most

1040
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: recent mock drafts I tracked had him again, so he

1041
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 1: has now been mocked to the Buffalo Bills twenty three

1042
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: times since January yeah, and he's number twenty three. How

1043
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: about that? Oh well no, But I mean the thing,

1044
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: And we've had several draft analysts on the show as

1045
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 1: you would imagine Mannie over the last month or so,

1046
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: and everybody from former NFL gms to guys that follow

1047
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: the draft and watch college football and do nothing else

1048
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: and grade players, most of them are of the opinion

1049
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: that he is an excellent scheme fit for what the

1050
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: Bills do. Now, some people have said this guy has

1051
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: as versatile a skill set as you could ask for

1052
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: from a corner, so he could technically fit in just

1053
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: about any scheme, but for what the Bills do. A

1054
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: lot of these guys believe he is unquestionably a fit

1055
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: with a capital AFT. And when you hear so many

1056
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: analysts talk about him in that way, and somebody who

1057
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: could fit with the Buffalo Bills, but could who could

1058
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: all also probably fit in with a lot of other teams.

1059
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: You wonder when is the run on corner is going

1060
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: to start? Is he even going to be available at

1061
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 1: number twenty five? And in the commercial break, we were

1062
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: talking about the worst thing would be to get to

1063
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: number twenty five and the cream of the crop at

1064
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 1: least who we're thinking it's the cream of the crop

1065
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: isn't available anymore. Yeah, yeah, And it's been our consensus,

1066
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: not on what you think Maddy would ask you right now.

1067
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: We think, you know, cornerback or wide receiver are kind

1068
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: of the top thing because you know, you got Josh,

1069
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 1: you want to, you know, give him another weapon, get

1070
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 1: some depth there, or somebody can really play, or somebody

1071
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: can even contribute. And of course corner for both quality

1072
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 1: and depth. That seems like, you know, the most likely

1073
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: position group that the Bills would draft from a twenty five,

1074
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: But twenty five is a big number. You're waiting a while.

1075
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: If the run starts on either one or both of

1076
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: those position groups, they run out pretty quick to make

1077
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: a move. Of the hundred and forty four mock drafts

1078
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: we've tracked, cornerback has been mocked to the Buffalo Bills,

1079
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: and I'll combine corner and defensive back have been mocked

1080
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: to the Buffalo Bills sixty nine times. So that is

1081
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: a huge number. A lot of people think we're going

1082
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: to draft a cornerback. Is that going to be the case.

1083
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: It was not going to draft a fullback. I think

1084
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 1: what I do wonder because we just took a call

1085
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: right before the break from Tyler who was saying, you

1086
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: know who would they trade up for? And it makes

1087
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: me think if there is that run on corners and

1088
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: they see a gigantic drop off after the fourth or

1089
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 1: fifth corner on their board to like round three. Remember

1090
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: we had Mark Dominic on our podcast Bills by the Numbers.

1091
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: He sees a giant drop off on his board after booth.

1092
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: He said, after booth, there's a drop off there he goes,

1093
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: And I don't know if I feel good about anybody

1094
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: until round three. I was like round three, what like,

1095
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: Now that's one guy's opinion, right, um, but that like

1096
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: that that sense shutters through my body like we gotta

1097
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: wait till round three now, I hope not. It's interesting too,

1098
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: because at corner you get that kind of drop off.

1099
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: At wide out you just get different skill sets. Yeah,

1100
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: what type wide receiver do you want? Pick your flavor?

1101
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: They don't they don't drop off, They just change and

1102
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: you can get a lot of production, but you have

1103
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: to play the guy in the slot rather than outside

1104
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: or you know that kind of thing. So it's different

1105
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: for wide outs. I think more guys can be pushed

1106
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: up there just because they have some traits, whereas corner

1107
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. You can either it's either yeah yeah yeah,

1108
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: and then it's like, I don't know, it's none of

1109
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: that gradient like there is in wide receiver. So Maddie,

1110
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: who was the most let's look at that other position

1111
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: that we think they could gravitate towards. Who was the

1112
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: most popular wide receiver mocked to the Bills. So there's

1113
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: like a there needs to be an asterisk next to

1114
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: this player's name because the most popular wide receiver was

1115
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: Jameson Williams. But he was going off the board in

1116
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: the late first round back in January and February, and

1117
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: then you started to see the videos get posted and

1118
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: the updates about he's he's on time. Uh Now, ACL

1119
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: injuries are aren't as crazy as they used to be

1120
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: because of the technology today, he's going to be ready

1121
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: to go when when we think he's going to be

1122
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: ready to go. So now Jameson Williams is not being

1123
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: mocked to Buffalo at all. I think the last time

1124
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: Jameson Williams was mocked to the Buffalo Bills might have

1125
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: been in March at some point right board past twelve

1126
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: or fourteen, maybe a top ten pick. I mean he

1127
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,439
Speaker 1: was projected for those of people who don't keep try today,

1128
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: this guy was projected be the maybe a top five pick,

1129
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: maybe the first wide receiver taking He's got the best

1130
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver in the draft calls and was injured at

1131
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: the end of the season. So you know that National

1132
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: Championship game, right, So, besides Jameson Williams, the second wide

1133
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: receiver who's been mocked to the Buffalo Bills the most

1134
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: is I believe it's Johan dot Yeah. So Johan Dotson

1135
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: and Traylon Burkes are like right there with each other

1136
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: from Arkansas. Yeah. Burks is tricky for me, And there

1137
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: seems to be a little bit of a range of

1138
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: opinion on him. Some people think he's dynamic and he's

1139
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: going to be unbelievable, and there's other people that say,

1140
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: a lot of contested catches in college. Is he going

1141
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: to be able to get opened in the pros? And

1142
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: I was surprised to see the mix of opinion on him.

1143
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: Some people see him as an outright world beater and

1144
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: other people are like, I don't know. So it's going

1145
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: to be very interesting to see where guys like that

1146
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: go because as we know, it only takes one team

1147
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: to love the guy. And suddenly he's off the board

1148
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: at eighteen and was like, how the heck did that happen?

1149
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: He went even earlier than we fought, but like a

1150
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: team like the Saints could easily take him at eighteen.

1151
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: Very true. Treylon Burkes was mocked to the Buffalo Bills

1152
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: six times and Johan Dotson was mocked to the Buffalo

1153
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: Bills five times. So they're really close to each other

1154
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: in the amount of times that people have chosen them

1155
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: to go to Buffalo without twenty fifth overall pick. And

1156
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: if you go back to corners defensive backs, number two

1157
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: next to Andrew Booth junior is Trent McDuffie. He's been

1158
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: mocked to the Buffalo Bills eighteen times now according to

1159
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: the latest ones that I've tracked, right, And that's a

1160
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: guy who was being mocked higher in the draft in

1161
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: the early yes, and now he's kind of people are wondering, Oh,

1162
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: he might actually be there for the Bills, because I

1163
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: think the knock on him is he's not a long

1164
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: athlete and a lot of teams are looking for longer,

1165
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: taller corners, which you have a lot of longer, taller

1166
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: corners that will go early on. That's this is what

1167
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: this draft classes. But a lot of people have said,

1168
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: don't knock him because of his length. This is still

1169
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: a really talented defensive He's kind of built like a

1170
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: like a Tarren Johnson, Yeah, not like a Levi Wallace

1171
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: who's taller and longer or something like. That's exactly right.

1172
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: But he can play outside, which is saying something no

1173
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: when he's not tall or long, and it's not he's

1174
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: got short arms, Yeah he does. They're under thirty inches

1175
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: long and I and that you can say, and teams

1176
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: do this guys with arms that short. It's a very

1177
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: short list of guys with those physical traits that have

1178
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: had even a moderately successful NFL career. Yeah, but you

1179
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: gotta be careful not to talk yourself out of a

1180
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: player that can play like if you think they have

1181
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:51,919
Speaker 1: the tools. He's a physical corner. Yeah, I mean he hits,

1182
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: he supports the run, makes plays on the ball. He

1183
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: just doesn't have all the elite measurables. But a kid

1184
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: can run. I can look up as He's definitely one

1185
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: of my favorites to watch that was one of the

1186
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: cornerbacks that if he comes to Buffalo, I would be

1187
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: really excited to have him, just because of the skill

1188
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: set that he does have, because of what people say

1189
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: about him. I think he could fit well here. But

1190
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: I think a lot of corners could fit well here.

1191
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: Depending on what type of corner you want to go after,

1192
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 1: there's certainly a good amount that could go in the

1193
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: first round that will have an impact on whatever team

1194
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: they get drafted by. And then, besides corner and wide receiver,

1195
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: interior offensive line was the number three position for the Bills,

1196
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: being mocked to the Bills at number twenty five, and

1197
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: the most popular prospect was Zion Johnson being mocked to

1198
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills eight different times. I do think that

1199
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: they should get an interior offensive lineman at some point

1200
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: in the draft. I'm just hard. Steve and I were

1201
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: having this discussion earlier this week. It's very hard for

1202
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: me to justify it in round one only because you

1203
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: have the so called premier positions, you know, quarterback, pass rusher,

1204
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver, corner, offensive tackle, and I think you should,

1205
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: more often than not, provided the values right on your board,

1206
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: gravitate towards those positions at the top of the draft.

1207
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and tell you that the

1208
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: guard class goes deep into the fifth round. But I

1209
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: think you could get a decent interior offensive lineman somewhere

1210
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: on Day two and still be okay. And so I

1211
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: would be apt to try to steer clear of that

1212
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: if possible, especially if there's something better on the board

1213
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: at corner or receiver, something like that. And I think

1214
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: this is where that whole running back conversation comes in,

1215
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: because I think there are some that believe, well, if

1216
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: the cornerback value stinks and the wide receiver value stinks

1217
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: when they're on the board at twenty five, are you

1218
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: going to take an interior offensive lineman. Does that guy

1219
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: get you over the hump and win a Super Bowl?

1220
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: Or do you take another skill position player in draft

1221
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: a running back. I think that's how people are getting

1222
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: to running back in some of the mocks that Maddy's

1223
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: been talking. Yeah, the latest mock draft watch that you

1224
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: guys are going to see tomorrow morning. I've tracked the

1225
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: bulk of them already yesterday and today. And the new

1226
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: hot name for Buffalo is Breece Hall at number twenty five,

1227
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: I've also seen him going to the Buffalo Bills in

1228
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: the second round two with the fifty seventh overall pick.

1229
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if the last number fifty seven, but yeah,

1230
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: he's been the new hot name there at number twenty five.

1231
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: Another guy who I've seen pop up that I really

1232
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: haven't seen since January February, DeVante Wyatt, the defensive tackle

1233
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: out of Georgia. Can sign me up for that? Guy

1234
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: like him a lot. He won't be there at twenty five.

1235
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people haven't going to

1236
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: the Steelers at twenty They need defensive line help badly

1237
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: because they got Tyson Alua Lou's thirty five five, and

1238
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: they've got Cameron Hayward who's thirty three, and JJ Watt

1239
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: or not J J Watt t J watt Um he's

1240
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: the only guy under thirty on their starting defensive. They

1241
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: need help there bad. This Wyatt is a high motor,

1242
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: fast athlete who weighs about three bills and who who

1243
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: makes plays everywhere. So and he played on that Georgia

1244
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: front with all of those guys. Guy, but he's yeah,

1245
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm with you. I think he's a special talent.

1246
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: I will see. I don't think he'll. In fact, I

1247
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: think he'll probably. I think he goes before Davis does. Jordan,

1248
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: did you Okay? Yeah, I think he does offer more. Um,

1249
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: I think there's no question Jordan Davis is a game

1250
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: wrecker in the run game. UM. I don't know what

1251
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: else he's gonna give you, but well, if you had

1252
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: a run defense that was ranked like twenty eight or

1253
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: twenty nine, draft George, if you're if you do, let's

1254
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: it's true. And I'll say this, it's he's Ted Washington

1255
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: type guy. If he's on your team, you're gonna be

1256
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: a top five run defense. That's all the risk to it,

1257
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: because they're just not going to be able to do

1258
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: anything but have two guys on him throughout the entire play.

1259
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: They won't be able to leave him and they can't move,

1260
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: which means one on ones for everybody else. Everybody's on

1261
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: one on ones and in the NFL, that's all it takes. It.

1262
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: That guy's Ted Washington incarnate and that's a that's a

1263
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: pretty good guy to have on your squad. High praise

1264
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: for sure. DeVante Wyatt is actually next to Zion Johnson

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Speaker 1: out of the latest mock drafts, also being mocked to

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills eight times, and a bulk of those

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Speaker 1: happened early on when the mock drafts first started to

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Speaker 1: come out. Another name that I've seen a couple times

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Speaker 1: and who we haven't seen a lot of is the

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Speaker 1: linebacker Devin Lloyd out of Utah. He's been mocked to

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills now four different times. Interesting because I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, we hear that this time of year is

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Speaker 1: called the lying season, and usually that stuff comes from

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01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: the agent world, and some people are trying to pump

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01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: up medical concerns about some of his injuries, and they're

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Speaker 1: trying somebody is trying to push him down the board.

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Speaker 1: Usually it's somebody that also as a linebacker as a

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Speaker 1: client who wants their guy to be the first linebacker drafted.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that, but sometimes that's how it works.

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Speaker 1: But look, the only people that get fooled by that

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Speaker 1: stuff are people in our line of work, the nflgms

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01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: and the college scouting directors. They do their homework three

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01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: and four times over and even when that stuff surfaces,

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01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: they have somebody they can allow a phone call to

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Speaker 1: and verify it or invalidate it. So if it's true

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Speaker 1: and there are concerns about his injury to the point

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Speaker 1: where some medical staffs for some NFL teams have a

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Speaker 1: problem with it, well, yeah, maybe he does slide, but

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Speaker 1: if it's purely a lot of puffin stuff, you know,

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Speaker 1: nobody's buying. We had this, We had this conversation also

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Speaker 1: about Devin Lloyd in relationship to Nakobe Dean at the

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Speaker 1: Georgia linebacker Dean being that smart guy, but he's short

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Speaker 1: and slow and light. I mean he's a small guy,

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Speaker 1: but he's really smart and he played on a great

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Speaker 1: defense and ran the show. But then you've got this

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Speaker 1: guy Devin Lloyd, who has got all of it. I

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Speaker 1: mean he's like a big, strong, fast, physical kind of guy.

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Speaker 1: And the balance in an NFL draft. In a college draft,

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Speaker 1: you take Dean, you take Nakobe Dean. In an NFL draft,

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Speaker 1: I think you take Lloyd. Yeah, he'sier, to do it

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01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: all type of linebacker. He fits in today's NFL defenses

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Speaker 1: that you need with the way the league is going,

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01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: with the way that quarterbacks are throwing the ball and

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01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,640
Speaker 1: also running the ball, with the type of different wide receivers,

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01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 1: you're seeing what tight ends are doing. You need a

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01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 1: linebacker like Devin Lloyd on your team to be able

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01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: to stop some of those NFL offenses that can get

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Speaker 1: you in several different ways. Yeah, that'll be interesting to see.

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01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: But there's a ton these mock drafts, and I love

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01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 1: how you've compiled all the numbers so you can see

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Speaker 1: how many people think that's going to go. But you

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01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 1: can still take your pick. I mean, yeah, we've got

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Speaker 1: a spreadsheet over here with all the numbers of the

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Speaker 1: different guys the different positions, and then also all the

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01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,759
Speaker 1: names with the dates starting back in January. The corner

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01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: was the most popular position obviously, was wide receiver second

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01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: or was it something else? Wide receiver was second. Wide

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01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: receiver was mocked to the Buffalo Bills twenty one times.

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01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: Interior offensive lineman was next at fifteen times. These are

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Speaker 1: updated numbers now, and then next to that, I want

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01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 1: to say was running back and defensive line where we're

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Speaker 1: close with each other. I think this, and we've talked

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01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 1: about this on the show. I think the sneaky need

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01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 1: for Buffalo's linebacker because we don't know what the future

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01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 1: holds for Tremaine Edmonds, knowing he's entering his fifth year

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Speaker 1: option year here and is scheduled to become a free

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Speaker 1: agent next year. They've got other people whose contracts are

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01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 1: up to Dawson Knox, Devin Singletary at Oliver has another year,

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01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 1: so they bought some time there after picking up the

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01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: fifth year option yesterday. So that might help the cause

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01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: and getting Edmonds back in the fold. But if they

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01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 1: take a linebacker early, you wonder if it's a sign

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01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: like we better get a guy in the pipeline in

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01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: case we can't, and there's some really good second round

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01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: value at linebacker. I'm not saying they're going to go there,

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01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: but the value might point them in that direction. I'll

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01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: say this. You know this for sure. Of the guys

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01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 1: on your lists that we've got all the way from

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01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 1: all the wide receivers, the corners, the defensive tackles, and

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01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: the linebackers and the interior offensive lineman, somebody on this

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01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: list is gonna be a Buffalo Bill. Yeah, yep, that's

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01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: on our team. The name is on this list, that's right,

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01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 1: Who is it? I have no idea. After one hundred

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01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 1: and forty four mocked. I think somebody hit the target

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01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: right right, and that's but that's where it's not gonna

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01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 1: be Jamison Williams though, no, probably not. He's gonna be

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01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: It's probably not gonna be Jordan Davis. No, it's probably

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01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 1: not gonna be delat Wyatt, right, probably not. If I

1349
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: can think back to last year, we'll all come on

1350
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: after the draft and we'll we'll have a fun segment

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01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: of okay, who was the first person to get it

1352
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 1: right for Buffalo And thinking back to last year with

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01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 1: Greg russo I think one or two people had mocked

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01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: him to the Buffalo Bills in early February, and then

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01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: we really didn't see much of Greg Russeau until we

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01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: hit April, and then he was not a popular name.

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01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 1: He wasn't as popular as Andrew Booth Junior is right

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01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 1: now to the Bills. But we did see his name

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01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 1: pop up a bit, all right, So you got you

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01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: had one guy this Andrew Booth was like over twenty times,

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01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: and you had McDuffie's seventeen. Then everybody else was right

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01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: around ten. The high ones were like right around ten. Yeah,

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01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams Ingle digits and it was Kyler Gordon is

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01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 1: now offensive line. The dbs and corners were off the charts.

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Speaker 1: The first and then wide receivers, So if you're gonna

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01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: do it that way, it's gonna be a dB or

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01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Who's it going to be. We should remind

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01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 1: everybody that Maddie and myself will be doing our live

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01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 1: reaction draft stream on draft night night one and on

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Speaker 1: night two as well. We'll be streaming those on the

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01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 1: Bills Facebook page, the YouTube channel on Twitter. So right

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Speaker 1: after the Bills pick is made on night one, Maddie

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01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 1: and I'll jump on and give you instant reaction, and

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Speaker 1: if Brandon Bean addresses the media, we'll carry that as well.

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01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: We'll do the same thing for the day two picks,

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01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: in round two and round three. After Kyle Brand does

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01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: god knows what in announcing the Bills pick at eighty nine,

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01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be exciting whatever he does. And then we'll

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01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: also have Greg Kostel will join us after the picks two,

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01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: So it'll be awesome to have Greg cost Silva NFL

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01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: Films on with us because we know he knows these

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01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: prospects unlike a lot of people out there. That's true too,

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01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 1: there's some of these things we haven't really talked about.

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01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: A guy like Daxton Hill, who's a defensive back, who's safety,

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01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 1: who's He's been a popular name for the Bills too. Yeah,

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01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: he's a dark horse because if you're gonna draft depth,

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01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 1: depth means not only depth, it also means versatility. Like

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01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: an offensive line that can play guard or tackle. Daxton

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01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 1: Hill could play corner and safety or nickel. And he's

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01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 1: a writer nickel. He's an athlete, kind of a hybrid

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01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: athletic guy who could play a couple of different spots.

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Speaker 1: So if you're doing it for depth, even in the

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01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: first round, man, that guy, that guy really smells like

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01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: a team. That guy's he got a spot he can

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01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: scoot to him. He's been six times, he's been mocked

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01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo at number twenty five. Mel Kiper had him there

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01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 1: in his latest mock draft. He thinks he's fit for them. Yep.

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01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: He's certainly versatile. I don't think there's any question r

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01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 1: And we know that this team likes position flexibility on offense.

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01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: I'm sure they like it on defense too. Yeah, and

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01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: it's and for all that we've talked about and the

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01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: lack of weakness on the roster, certainly, I mean, and

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01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: here's the here's what we don't know, how the board

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01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: falls up to twenty through twenty four picks and how

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01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: those picks affect what the Bills think. Who's there and who?

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01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 1: Who really is there? Who has fallen through the cracks

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01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: at dB, who has fallen through the cracks at defensive line,

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01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: at offensive line, a wide receiver? Who's who's dropped? And

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01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: is that one of the guys? They like that? I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that's what we don't know. Yeah, that's what we

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01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,799
Speaker 1: don't know, Maddie. Thanks for putting all of that together.

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01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: We know it's tedious. People love it as as we know,

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01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 1: and they're always checking it out. I actually have listeners

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01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: tweet at me saying, hey, can you tweet the latest

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01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: mock draft out. I'm like, I'm like, I'm happy to

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01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 1: do it. But you can go to Buffalo bills dot

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01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: com if you have the Bills app up the story folks,

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01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: Maddie is on the payroll. She does this. I do

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01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 1: top eight prospects. You can find it on Buffalo bills

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01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: dot com. Came out a couple of days ago. Brownie

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01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: has an article that drop today. We've got a bunch

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01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: of pre draft stuff that's on our website. We'll have

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01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: one final mock draft to watch up tomorrow, and I'm

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01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 1: setting up my watch party. Yeah, your zero gravity chair,

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01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 1: I'm all whiskey and your cigar. We know how toward

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01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:29,799
Speaker 1: the outdoor TV. Oh okay, might be a little brisk

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01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: Thursday night. I thought it was gonna be rioted at brisk,

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01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: but it's not gonna be that bad. We listen, we

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01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 1: bring it out your winter camping there again. So yeah,

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01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta last set up. So yeah, we're

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01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: all gonna be in it together, except you'll be I'll be.

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01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 1: I'll be with you in spirit. Let me just put

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01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 1: it that way. M at night when the Picks made

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01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 1: drinking spirits. Sure, Maddie, thanks again. I will catch up

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01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: with you tomorrow. And you can catch up with this

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01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 1: on Facebook Live, Twitter, and on the Bills You channel

1437
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 1: when we stream after each of the first three Bills pick,

1438
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: so be sure to check that out. On Draft nights

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Speaker 1: one and two, we will take a break, Steve and

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01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 1: I back with more, including a very necessary commentary on

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01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 1: the state of defense in the PAC twelve conference. We

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01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: will get to that when we return here on one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 1: All right, As we mentioned before the break, I feel

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01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: compelled to address this. Okay, the Pac twelve conference has

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01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 1: hit an all time low in defensive football. I think

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01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 1: there is a general belief that defensive football is lacking

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01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve as a whole. There are a

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01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: couple of exceptions, but in general, the Pac twelve is

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01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 1: not known for defensive football. And I meant to ask

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01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 1: Brandon being this on the show yesterday in terms of

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01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 1: how much more challenging does it make the evals on

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01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 1: offensive players when the defensive play in their conference is

1454
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 1: just subpar? How do you weigh that when you're evaluating

1455
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 1: a prospect. But in any event, I'm watching some film

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01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: yesterday and today of UCLA tight end Greg Dulcitch, maybe

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01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: the best run after catch tight end in the class

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01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: this year, and I see clips of three blown coverages

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01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: in a row. Then there are times where the defense

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01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:41,919
Speaker 1: simply forgets about him. It's uncanny. Steve Dulcitch is catching

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01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: the ball. He's the only guy in the camera shot. Yeah,

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01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: like on a field with twenty two moving players, he

1463
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:55,719
Speaker 1: is all by himself with nothing but green grass around

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01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 1: him yards in any direction. We did this. We talked

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01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: about this earlier. I'm sitting at my desk, Brownie's over

1466
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: there yelling at his computer. I'm like, what do you

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01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 1: what's the problem? He could look at that and I

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01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 1: go over there, and sure enough, this guy's running right.

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01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: It's a nice tight end, has some nice highlights, and

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01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, not all of them are like this, but

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01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,600
Speaker 1: every once in a while he's like he's on a

1472
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: green screening. Here's the thing. It's not like this guy is,

1473
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, some sixth round or a priority free agent.

1474
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 1: This guy was the leading He's a tight end. He

1475
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 1: was the leading receiver on UCLA's roster. This he had

1476
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 1: thirteen hundred yards receiving and like eight touchdowns. How do

1477
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 1: you forget about that guy in the UCLA offense? Now? Look,

1478
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: I'll be the first to say I don't catch a

1479
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 1: lot of Pac twelve football. It's on too late on Saturday,

1480
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 1: and as you know, we work long days on Sundays

1481
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 1: in the fall. But the more I've watched film on

1482
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: offensive prospects from the Pac twelve, the more I am

1483
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: seeing just how bad it has gotten out there. Now,

1484
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean there aren't good individual defensive prospects in

1485
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: this year's draft class from the PAC twelve. There absolutely

1486
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 1: Ourcavon Thibadeau is the you know he's gonna go on

1487
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 1: the top five. I was just amazed at the last.

1488
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,480
Speaker 1: Do you have a theory on why the defensive cohesion

1489
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 1: as a unit by a lot of those teams, the

1490
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: blown assignments, the poor technique. I mean, I'm not even

1491
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 1: a trained eye, Steve, you know, like the pro scouts are,

1492
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 1: But it doesn't take a pro scout to realize, yeah,

1493
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 1: there is no consistent defense of any kind as a unit.

1494
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 1: That's interestingable because you can you can you can sit

1495
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: here and wax philosophic about what the reasons are, and

1496
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: I can't begin to It's a complex issue because it

1497
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: goes It's like not just like one team, it's like

1498
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 1: the whole the whole roster of schools. You show up

1499
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 1: and they got there. They're getting hung, they're getting a

1500
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: rung up every weekend. And I don't know whether it's

1501
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 1: like all the really good athletes want to carry the

1502
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: ball and the guys that play defense or the leftovers athletically,

1503
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: But you're right, I mean you like, it's blown coverage.

1504
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 1: It's blown coverage. But then there's a guy he just

1505
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:10,799
Speaker 1: can't stay with a guy's Power five conference football. I'm

1506
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 1: with you, there's there really does seem to be this.

1507
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: And I always heard it when we were growing up too,

1508
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 1: when I was coming up through the ranks as well,

1509
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 1: Like you know Pac twelve against you know Big ten,

1510
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 1: the Big ten was three yards in a cloud. It

1511
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 1: usn't there's some truth to it. But now that's all

1512
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve is now just air it out there.

1513
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 1: They are offensive linemen coming into the league now, and

1514
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 1: not only at Pac twelve, but they've never had their

1515
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: hand on the ground, you know what I mean. They're

1516
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: in a two point stance as a guard all the

1517
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: time because they're doing nothing but pass protecting. There's no

1518
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: run games. It's all throwing. And when you do that,

1519
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 1: it's just you know, they lack of physicality and they

1520
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 1: lack they just don't learn certain things. So here and

1521
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 1: and I don't want to say this is a bad

1522
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 1: coaching because they don't play defense, but what coaches do

1523
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: learn is listen, this is what our guys do. We're

1524
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 1: gonna do it. We're gonna do what we do best offensively.

1525
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 1: And they never ask these guys to do that, and

1526
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 1: it's the same, got to be the same. Defensively, we

1527
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:14,719
Speaker 1: can't ask our guys to play man to man because

1528
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 1: they just can't hang in there with these guys. Or

1529
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 1: if they do play man to man, they got just

1530
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 1: getting rung up. And I always make the joke about

1531
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 1: the talented players, you know, like a Jamison Williams or

1532
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 1: who you know, all the guys in the top of

1533
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 1: this draft and every draft. You know, every other week

1534
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 1: they're playing against a dental student or an accounting students here,

1535
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 1: and that you know, they take advantage. Here's the problem

1536
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 1: with how bad, But that's not what this is. No,

1537
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 1: And here's the problem with how bad the defense is

1538
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve. It's gonna be harder and harder

1539
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: for coaches to make it better because with the transfer

1540
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 1: portal rules, now you're I mean, you got guys coming

1541
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: in and going out. It's a revolving door. Forget about

1542
01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 1: the guys that leave early for the draft. Now you

1543
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: got guys leaving because they didn't like what you told

1544
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: him in practice last week. Right, And I'm out of here,

1545
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 1: I'm going in the transfer report. I'm gonna go play

1546
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 1: somewhere else. And then you got to recruit twelve new guys. Yeah,

1547
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,719
Speaker 1: it's I'll say this though, I don't think football lends

1548
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 1: itself to that kind of switching up the way basketball

1549
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 1: does well. Yeah, because you only got five guys on

1550
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 1: the floor. Yeah, it's not as complicated, um, even at

1551
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 1: the high levels. So you I don't think that's gonna

1552
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: like decimate rosters the way it has in the past.

1553
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 1: It will because here's the thing it will impacts though,

1554
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 1: the guys that are playing don't transfer. The guys that

1555
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 1: are playing don't trans at least in football at this

1556
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 1: current point in history. It's not as common. If you're

1557
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 1: not playing, that's when you get out. That's when these

1558
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: guys go to like I'm going to leave in Georgia

1559
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go to UCF or I'm gonna go

1560
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 1: to Old miss or I'm gonna go to someplace where

1561
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 1: I can get on the field. Right. That's the thing

1562
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 1: now with football players. Then you get guys Georgia who,

1563
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 1: if they're willing to sit there, they'll wait their turn

1564
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 1: and get on their senior year and then take their

1565
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 1: chances in the draft. And a lot of these guys

1566
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: are really looking good doing it. There is some news

1567
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: regarding the draft and trade possibilities. ESPN's Jeremy Fowler is saying,

1568
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 1: as far as the trade front goes, the Giants at

1569
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: pick seven, that's the second of their two picks. They're

1570
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: at five and seven. The Giants at seven have received

1571
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: calls from teams about potentially trading into that spot, and

1572
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 1: the Seahawks at number nine have had some preliminary interest

1573
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:37,879
Speaker 1: in their pick, but the general consensus from many teams

1574
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 1: is they expect movement to occur after the top ten.

1575
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 1: The eleven to fourteen range is anticipated to be the

1576
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:52,679
Speaker 1: sweet spot. Yeah, we've suspected that less of a premium

1577
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 1: to get there. You're gonna have teams they'll say, listen, well,

1578
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 1: because yet the Jets have two picks. The Giants have

1579
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 1: two picks. If they really want a top ten, yeah

1580
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 1: they can. If they really want a guy, they're gonna

1581
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 1: get him. And chances are the guys they want or

1582
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 1: the guys everybody else wants to and nobody wants to.

1583
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,719
Speaker 1: You know. Now, if if it gets by the Jets

1584
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 1: first pick, and then the Giants first pick, that pick

1585
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: number six, which is behind both of those first two

1586
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: picks of the Giants and Jets. Then you think and say, Okay,

1587
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 1: we got a chance to get up to that, but

1588
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 1: that's gonna be from somebody who's got like the tenth pick,

1589
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:29,799
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, because it's it's big time. You cannot

1590
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: get from Buffalo's twenty five to number six and justify everything.

1591
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 1: You have to get your whole draft up and the

1592
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 1: general and you're not going to do that. Yeah, And

1593
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: the general feeling is with this draft lacking true elite players,

1594
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: there's no need to go up there. That's why this

1595
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: eleven to fourteen range is suddenly attractive, because now you

1596
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 1: can get a player that might be as good as

1597
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 1: some of those guys taken in the top ten because

1598
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 1: there are no true elites, and you can get him

1599
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 1: at a lower cost in terms of the capital you

1600
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 1: gotta give up to get up there. You missed guy

1601
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 1: in the top ten, the guy you get at twenty five,

1602
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna give you a lot closer to what that

1603
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,719
Speaker 1: top ten guy is than other drafts in the past,

1604
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 1: or it's not going to be that big a discrepancy

1605
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: between a top ten player in this draft and a

1606
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,679
Speaker 1: mid twenties player in this draft at the same position.

1607
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 1: That's the thought process. And we're talking about here. Be

1608
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 1: interesting to see what Houston does. They have picks three

1609
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 1: and thirteen, so their second pick is in that sweet

1610
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 1: spot range. Do they make their pick at three if

1611
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 1: they can get one of the top three pass rushers

1612
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: conceivably otherwise they get the best tackle in the draft.

1613
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: And then at thirteen, does somebody make an offer to

1614
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 1: them where they say, you know what, I'm gonna take

1615
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: that give me the extra draft capital, right, And what's

1616
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 1: it gonna be. It's gonna be two twos or a tour?

1617
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be a one and a three? Right?

1618
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 1: A twenty five and a two or one and a

1619
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 1: two for that thirteenth pick. I kind of doubt that.

1620
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 1: That's a lot of I think a team that's moving

1621
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 1: up to thirteen is someone that's somewhere between sixteen and twenty,

1622
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you flip those picks

1623
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 1: and you threw in what three three? This year's three.

1624
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 1: It's got to be this year's three. If you're Houston,

1625
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: you're not gonna take next year's three. You want to want?

1626
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 1: I got it, need it now? Yeah? Yeah? Right? But

1627
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:16,799
Speaker 1: so that's a lot of that's a lot of draft capital.

1628
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be some boards where some guys

1629
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 1: that were on their board in the top ten don't

1630
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 1: go in the top ten, and they're suddenly like, oh

1631
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: my god, there's a top ten guy there. I'm gonna

1632
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 1: go get him, you know, when they move up to

1633
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 1: somewhere between eleven and fourteen. To do it. We could

1634
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 1: talk around and around and around about it, which is

1635
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 1: what makes the draft some right. We gotta take a break, though,

1636
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:41,679
Speaker 1: Steve and I to close things up when we return

1637
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Allot of Health.

1638
01:26:43,560 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, welcome back, It's One

1639
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 1: Bills Live. And tomorrow, at this time, Steve, we will

1640
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:09,640
Speaker 1: be a mere five hours away from the opening of

1641
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL drafts. Just the just the

1642
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 1: beautiful music of the Booze as Roger goes up to

1643
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 1: the mic. Just even the Vegas people are gonna boo him.

1644
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 1: They got no reason to boo him. They're gonna boo

1645
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 1: him just I think he's gonna sense of normalcy. He'll smile.

1646
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 1: The draft was in Cleveland last year, and that was

1647
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:34,679
Speaker 1: a little dicey with the weather. Yeah, and the stage,

1648
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 1: which you had a major issue with because, oh my god,

1649
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:39,639
Speaker 1: the poor players had to walk about a quarter mile

1650
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:41,600
Speaker 1: just to get up to the podium. Took forever for

1651
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 1: those guys. The next pick was already in by the

1652
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 1: time the guy was getting his jersey and taking photos

1653
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 1: with the commissioner. The team was running with their pick

1654
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 1: up to the thing because it took him so long

1655
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 1: to get up there. Come. I wonder how much tighter

1656
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 1: security is going to be this year. You remember that

1657
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: Browns fan that got up on the catwalk last year? Oh,

1658
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Random dude. What did he have? Did

1659
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: he have a banjo? What did he have with him?

1660
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 1: He had some kind of I'm trying to I can't

1661
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: remember now why he did he have with him up there?

1662
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: I think it was right when a machine gun. Kelly

1663
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 1: was was addressing the crowd because he's a Browns fan, right,

1664
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 1: and so he was talking about the Browns going to

1665
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and I can't remember if he announced

1666
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 1: a pick or something. And as he's walking off, there's

1667
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 1: this random dude up on the stage who is not

1668
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 1: part of the event at all. He hopped up on there,

1669
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:33,640
Speaker 1: and security didn't didn't get him for a while. It

1670
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 1: somebody's got to help me with that. Yeah, they listen.

1671
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 1: The league does nothing, but if it doesn't learn from

1672
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: its mistakes, that's a mistake that won't happen. You got

1673
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 1: to know that the casinos know what security's all about.

1674
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 1: They'll they'll oh yeah, they'll guy, I'll be in the fountain. Um.

1675
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 1: One thing to remind you if you need a draft

1676
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: fix between now and tomorrow, we have a story up

1677
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 1: on Buffalo bills dot com right now. Eight things to

1678
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Speaker 1: watch for the Bills in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft,

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Speaker 1: the way certain things could happen, what other teams could

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Speaker 1: do that could impact Buffalo. Give it a read when

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Speaker 1: you get a chance. We have expert analysis there for

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Speaker 1: you to chew on as you wait for the draft tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Steve and I are back here tomorrow as we will

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Speaker 1: get you set for Round Numero uno the latest rumors

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Speaker 1: and reports on what could happen in Round one of

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Draft. We'll see you at

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Speaker 1: one