1 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: Good morning, Swold, and welcome to the No Dunks podcast 2 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: on the Athletic Network of Fine Network. It's Tuesday, September 3 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: twenty first. I'm j E. Skeets here in the yard 4 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: and joining me today to shoot the shit. You may 5 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: have seen his incredible quotes in the latest Business Insider 6 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: article It is the international man of mystery taking it 7 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: to the max. 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: Leels, I think it's only September twenty today. 9 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: I thought you think you said, oh, yes, great, start 10 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: here in the yard. This is what happens when JD's 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: not around. I believe he's still in Canada. I think 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: he's getting some passports figured out. 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: If I remember, always has an adventure when he guys 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: to Canada. So will well hear all about it? 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure, Yeah, I guess JD returns September twenty first. 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: Today is September twentieth. Thank you for the clarification there, 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: But yes, concrats Lely on the on the Business Insider 18 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: article it's a fickle industry according to Lee Ellis yes article. 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, well look, I think I think it is. I'm 20 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: going to have to have a word to Colin though 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: I thought I had a few more rough fire quotes 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 2: that he could have thrown in there. So maybe he's 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: got a part two coming. 24 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: But we'll see that that one a part two just 25 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: with lee ELS's incredible lengthy rambling quotes. You know, it 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: was coming. 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: That's that's what I'm thinking anyway. 28 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 3: But that's it. 29 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 2: Colin's just trying to build a little you know, build 30 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: up the hype a little bit, and then he's going 31 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: to release the part two banger. You know. The first 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: one's always the first draft of anything is not the best. 33 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: You know, maybe it's just the follow up is going 34 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: to be better. We'll see. 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people not complaining, but like, oh, 36 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: it's behind the paywall, you know, how do I how 37 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: do I read this Business Insider article about my boys 38 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: about no dunks, you know, making it make it after 39 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: leaving Turner and all that. There's workarounds there really is. 40 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: I didn't know about this workaround, but I almost feel 41 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: bad to share it, you know, Colin put all this 42 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: work into it. 43 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, well, and honestly though, you know, that's the 44 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 2: way things are though these days, it's okay to pay 45 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: for something for one dollar for a free month for 46 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: the first month. I think it was as well. 47 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: Like, oh, okay, yeah, I think so. 48 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: I think. I think there's multiple options there, you know, 49 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: and people complain and complain and plain, and I used 50 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: to be one of those. I'm like, I'm not paying 51 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: for anything on the internet. I'm like, why not? I mean, 52 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: that's how it is these days. You never used to 53 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: go into a news agent and see the newspaper there 54 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: for forty cents and say, I'm not paying for that. 55 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna read it in the news agents and 56 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: walk out or just steal it, so, you know, pay 57 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: for it. Pay for stuff I do. I have got 58 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 2: multiple subscriptions, multiple Oh. 59 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: Do you have one of those, like, I don't know, 60 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: apps or extensions that helps you keep track of all 61 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: these things you've subscribed to, because I bet you there's 62 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: like five you don't even remember. You. 63 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's the problem. I get every single, you know, 64 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: transaction from my credit card pop up onto my screen. 65 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 2: I have that for a safety precaution, and yeah, there's 66 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: a few that pop up and I'm like, I should 67 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: probably end that one. But it depends on who it 68 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: is and what you're supporting, you know, So I try to, 69 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: you know, I try to support some independent journalism. But 70 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: you know, I mean that's a thing with the Internet 71 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: that was we got We were spoiled from the start. Yeah, 72 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: because everything was free, was like all right, just take 73 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: it all. And now it's like you gotta pay for stuff, 74 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: and and people are like, nah, I'm not paying for it. 75 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: It's like, well, I mean, you don't, like, say, you 76 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: don't walk into a shop and just steal food. Do 77 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: you got to pay for everything? 78 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, well look and the stuff is premium stuff 79 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: here too. This is the best of the best The Athletic. 80 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: Should get yourself a subscription. Go to the Athletic dot 81 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: com slash No Dunks. If you haven't done that, should 82 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: subscribe here. Hey this is free No Ducks on YouTube 83 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: as far as I can tell, I. 84 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: Guess you got to watch the Priceless Priceless. 85 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but hey, if you haven't subscribed, like comment, share 86 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: of the show, shout it to the stream team. Joining 87 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: us live here for a little U what I I 88 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: think it's going to be a mini podcast, Lee. There's 89 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: not a whole lot to talk about, but we thought 90 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: we hit the people with some NBA news and notes. 91 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: Sending your questions to No Dunks at the Athletic dot Com. 92 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: We're less than a month away from the start of 93 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: the actual season, so that means the season previews and 94 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of other NBA content from your boys at 95 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: No Dunks coming very soon, you know, sou as jd 96 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: gets back from from Canada, basically soon as it turns 97 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: into September twenty first and the start of fall. When's 98 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: fall actually start? 99 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: I think tomorrow, Yeah, I think tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, maybe 100 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: the best season, by the way. 101 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: Best season. 102 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, we here in Atlanta overall, I think, yeah, okay, 103 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: go on, why well, it's just the temperature starts coming down, 104 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: you know, especially down here. But I just love the colors. 105 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: The temperature for this week. 106 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 2: Well I know this week's yeah, it's back up, but 107 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: last week wasn't too bad. But I love the colors 108 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 2: of fall way better than any other season. I mean winter, 109 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: winter in Canada gorgeous, of course, absolutely gorgeous to visit. 110 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: But you know, the temperature cools down, you start going 111 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: back indoors, and it's it's just cozy. It's the coziest 112 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: season I think. You know, yeah, it's beautiful. I mean, look, 113 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: there certainly are some drawbacks as far as when all 114 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 2: the leaves fall, they're beautiful. It's like snowfall. The first 115 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: time snowfalls, it's beautiful. And then you're sort of sludging 116 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: your way through the slush and that that does happen 117 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 2: a little bit with the leaves, but it's worth it 118 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: because of just the way that it looks. You know, 119 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: cooler nights, cooler mornings, perfect for running or walking out 120 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: in the morning right now, just gorgeous. 121 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: What has he been just walking around, walking around, trying 122 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: some street ReBs to buy. 123 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 2: You know, I'm heavy into the soccer these days. Coaching. 124 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: We got running club going with the boys too. Been 125 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: doing a few things at the schools. 126 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: How's the team look? How's the soccer team look? 127 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 2: Well, one one of them, the younger one, had a 128 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 2: victory on the weekend, one nil. The old one went 129 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: down three to two, and he was virtually inconsolable in 130 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 2: the car ride home, just couldn't couldn't believe the other 131 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: team had the goal to score, let alone win the game. 132 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: We were up one zero, we're up to one and 133 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: we lost three too, and just beyond devastation in the 134 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: car in the first game of the season. But yeah, 135 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: it's funny. I mean ten year olds. You know, there's 136 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 2: a bit more movement. There's a couple of kids and 137 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 2: this is what I remember from playing junior basketball. I 138 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: was always the bottom age, so I was always the 139 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: youngest of my cross. It felt like there's some kids 140 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 2: who were like four years older than me. You know, long, tall, 141 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: gangly kids, and you just felt completely outclass. Same in football, 142 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: there was this kid on the weekend honestly had to 143 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: be sixteen years old, There's no doubt about it. He 144 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 2: was just so much bigger and taller and faster than 145 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: all the other kids. It was quite hilarious. But then 146 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: with five and six year olds, it's just like they 147 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 2: just move They just move around like this, and you 148 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: know the ball the ball rolled into the goal at 149 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: one stage, and about six different kids claimed that it 150 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 2: was off their boot. There everyone just and so it's hilarious. 151 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: A couple of parents get pretty intense too with six 152 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: year olds. 153 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been going to a lot of my 154 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: my god, kid's schemes over the last couple of years, 155 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: so you haven't seen anything yet. I mean, yeah, I 156 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: actually it's gross. I can't believe some of the parents 157 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: and like, are you kidding? 158 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: Me relaxed, like what. 159 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: Do you do? 160 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know, and yeah, so I'll 161 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: be uh, I'll be coaching anyway. This weekend should be fun. 162 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: See how do you wear a suit on the sideline. 163 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: Like Jose Marino? You mean, like like the five thousand 164 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: dollars Amani suit or something like that. Now, I'll just 165 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: be in, I'll just be in. Short, I'm not sure 166 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: if I'm gonna get the whistle or not, but emphasis 167 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: on having fun, playing hard, and that's all. I'm not 168 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: worrying about the final result. 169 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: But I would recommend getting the whistle because otherwise the 170 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: mayhem never stops. Yeah, you need to, like if the 171 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: ball goes out of bounds and stuff like that, they'll 172 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: just continue to play on another field. 173 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 174 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: So here's what the schedule is looking like for this week. 175 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: It's basically I almost want to call it like our 176 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: last week or two before we really kick things off 177 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: in No Dunk's Lands. And I mean, like not a 178 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: ton of shows yet with the previews right around the corner, 179 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: but we have on Thursday the return of No Buffs, 180 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: the Survivor podcast. I think that's why I thought today 181 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: it was the twenty first lead right, because that's the 182 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: premiere of Survivor forty three. And the following day, on 183 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: the twenty second, myself, Trey and JD will be recapping 184 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: the two hour premiere episode of Survivor forty three, and 185 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: we will once again try and get Lee to watch it, 186 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: though he's already said he's not going to, but he 187 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: will be playing the Fantasy Survivor forty three pool that 188 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: we're gonna have over on No Buff So we got 189 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: that coming up. That's got its own YouTube feed, its 190 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: own podcast feed. If you're a Survivor fan or you 191 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: want to get in, now's the perfect time. And then 192 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: on Friday here in No Dunk's Land task, we'll have 193 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: a new No Buntz a little baseball. Let's sort of 194 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: the shirts up, just to remind everybody. In fact, my 195 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: guy Jamie at Breaking Tea, he just wrote me limited 196 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: quantities left of these Breaking Tea No Bunts shirts, the 197 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: Expos one there and the U and the Blue Jays one. 198 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: You have both of these, don't you do? 199 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: The baby blues. I mean, they're both great designs. I 200 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: just prefer the color of the blue one over the 201 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: gray one. 202 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: But beautiful, Okay, So Uh, no bunts coming at you 203 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: on Friday. And I think I think, I think Task 204 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: gonna have a special guest. Mm, A guy I grew 205 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: up with in Strafford. He lives in Taiwan. He's back 206 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: here in North America. He's headed this way to Atlanta 207 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: later this week. Uh, and he might be jumping on 208 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: with Tasks. He's a die hard baseball you know, Joel. 209 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: Of course I know Joel. Yeah, he loves baseball more 210 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: than anyone loves any other sport. 211 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so I think he is scheduled to uh 212 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: to get on with Tass, which will be He's a 213 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: very funny guy too, so that could be a good one. 214 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: So that's no months later in the week. But hey, 215 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: we spent enough time talking about soccer and the weather 216 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: and what's coming up here. Let's get into some NBA 217 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: news and notes. Leally and the first one, this happened 218 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. It is Dennis Shrewder signing 219 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: a one year, two point six four million dollar deal 220 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: to return to the Lakers. Yeah, what do you think 221 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: about this? Is this news? I can check that at you. 222 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: Well, I am surprised that's all he got, considering how 223 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: good he was for Germany at the Euros. He was 224 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: brilliant and look, he's a really good player. Denis Shrewder. 225 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: The problem is, you know, I don't think he's a 226 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 2: starting point guard. I think his best role in the 227 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: NBA is a backup point guard. We saw that in Atlanta. 228 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: You know, basically he kind of forced Jeff te out 229 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: and he became the starter. And he's a very good player, 230 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: but he just gets a little, I think, caught up 231 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: in trying to be almost too good, Whereas if he 232 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: plays a role where he's more facilitator and a secondary, 233 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: you know, offensive talent, I think he can be really good. 234 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: He's gone there two point six million in Los Angeles. 235 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: You may as well get be an intern there. That's 236 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: after taxes and the cost of living. He's going to 237 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: have about twenty bucks left over from that. And of 238 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: course people were pointing out that he turned down a 239 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: significant extension from the Lakers a couple of years ago. 240 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: You know, anyway, whatever, I mean, that's the way things go. 241 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: But I think he's there, and I think, look, we 242 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: no one really expects Russell Westbrook to stay on the 243 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: Lakers for the entirety of this season. If he's even 244 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: there from the start. I think one way or another, 245 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: he's gone. So I think this is also, you know, 246 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: basically insurance for that move, so that they have another 247 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: guy who can be a point guard. Patrick Beverley's a 248 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 2: little bit different as far as the role that he 249 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: would play on that team, but shrewder again. EuroBasket was 250 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: a fantastic tournament. He was outstanding. They picked up the 251 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: bronze medal there. I know there was other interests from 252 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: other teams. He apparently he said this Lakers deal had 253 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: been in the works though, for a few months, and 254 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 2: that's why he went back there. Maybe it's true. I'm 255 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 2: not sure, but I would have thought he could have 256 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: gotten a lot more money if it's only a one 257 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: year deal. But I thought he could have gotten you know, 258 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: probably two or three guaranteed years from another team. So 259 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 2: a little surprised that he chose the Lakers over that, 260 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: But I guess he just felt that, you know, if 261 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 2: it's true that he was negotiating a few months ago, 262 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: then I guess he just felt he owed it to 263 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: them to sign there. 264 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you slipped in the part where he bet on 265 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: himself and it sort of backfire because when he played 266 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: with the Lakers in twenty twenty one. He played fine. 267 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: I mean he averaged fifteen and six, but he turned 268 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: down the extension. They're worth over eighty million dollars. 269 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you. 270 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: Know, and sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't. 271 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: It didn't in his case in terms of the paycheck there. 272 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting from this article. I believe 273 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: it was actually ESPN that slipped this in. Lakers general 274 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: manager Rob and new coach Darvin Ham reached out to 275 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook in recent days to tell him they planned 276 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: to sign Dennis Shrewder to that fourteenth roster spine. Yeah, 277 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: that caught me by surprise. I mean, they are they 278 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: really kudos to Ham and Plinka in the Lake. They 279 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: are really trying to make it seem like we can 280 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: make this work with Russ. He we got to just 281 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: fall him in, keep him in the loop. But yeah, 282 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: that caught me by surprise. 283 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: It's just weird. You never hear it other than potentially 284 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 2: coming from if it was Lebron you know, of course, 285 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 2: you know, but the guy who they're like, we don't 286 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: really want you on the roster, but we're gonna tell 287 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: you about this move. Anyway, seems very very bizarre things. Now, 288 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: Darvin Ham does have a history with Shrewder of course 289 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: from his days here in Atlanta, so that should help. 290 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: But basically, again that tells me it's like, we're getting 291 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: another guy who plays your position for pennies on the dollar. 292 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: Russ just say, you know, in case you maybe want to, 293 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: you know, in case you want to be bought out 294 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: of your contract, or if you want to, you know, 295 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: give us some money back, just so you know, we've 296 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 2: got another guy who's going to be taking up some 297 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: minutes and there's going to be few for you. Is 298 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: the way that I kind of interpret it. But yeah, 299 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: the Lakers season is going to be weird as always, 300 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: you know. I Darvin Ham, I'm so happy he's got 301 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: an opportunity here. But what a situation for your first 302 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: time head coaching role. I mean, you're just going to 303 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: have to blend so many different personalities and characters for 304 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: a team that has win now expectations, but so many 305 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: question marks hanging over so many of the guys. So 306 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: it's going to be it's certainly going to be challenging 307 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: for him. But you know, he'd been a coach for 308 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: so long an assistant coach that he deserved an opportunity 309 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: and he's gotten what he asked for. 310 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: I love that the Lakers have brought the classic Twitter 311 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: graphics slash debates start bench cuts into real life in 312 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: training camp here, Like like, who okay, if you were 313 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: to do the start bench cut with the three guys 314 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: that they have now keeping Westbrook, bringing in Patrick Beverly 315 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: and now Dennis Shrewder play the game Leally. 316 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, I mean, I guess you have 317 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: to cut Westbrook because he's not a part of the team. 318 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: You know, Shrewder I think has a little bit more 319 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: stability than Patrick Beverley. So bring Patrick Beverly off the 320 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: bench is fine. I think he would probably accept that role. 321 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: I like the way that Patrick Beverley's come in and said, listen, 322 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: you know, I don't care about the personalities. You're going 323 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: to get the full Patrick Beverly experience. So whether he 324 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: comes off the bench, whether he starts, he's going to 325 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: give one hundred and ten percent when he plays. And 326 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: that's exactly what the Lakers, you know, should want, they 327 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: should expect, and that's I think Patrick Beverly is best. 328 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: So bring him off the bench. Start Shrewder, and I guess. 329 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: I guess eventually they are going to have to cut 330 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: Westbrook because, as we've talked about, the contract is too big. No, 331 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: no one's going to give up anything significant if the 332 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: Lakers aren't going to attach draft picks or some other 333 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: sort of compensation, you know, to take that contract on 334 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: m I think. 335 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: To answer my own question, yeah, I think I would. 336 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: I would start Beverly. Actually, I would bring Shrewder off 337 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: the bench like you talked about. I think that's the 338 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: best role for him, just as he is, you know, 339 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: an aggressive scorer. And then I guess I'm cutting Westbrook 340 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: in this scenario. I did see that. The signing of 341 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: Shrewder here now it has led some fans, observers whatever, 342 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: to think the Westbrook trade is maybe even closer because, 343 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: according to the athletic sources, the Lakers have had recent 344 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: conversations with the Utah Jazz and are targeting Bogdanovic, Jordan Clarkson, 345 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: and Malik Beasley. Do any of those names make some sense? 346 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: And you know those are scorers, those are shooters, especially 347 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: in Bogdanovic and Beasley three point shooters. 348 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think I mean yet? You're getting 349 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: some veterans there that the Lakers. The Lakers mate those guys, 350 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: you know right now. I mean, problem is, none of 351 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: those guys defensively really do all that much. But again, 352 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: I think if you're the Life, because then you just 353 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: have whatever your eight nine man rotation is. If they 354 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 2: can all shoot, and we know Beasley can shoot, Jordan Clarkson, 355 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 2: well he shoots a lot. You know, he can get 356 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: you a bucket, and bog Dunovic actually probably would be 357 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: good to have on the floor with Lebron, So I 358 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: don't mind that. And yet I think Danny Ainge at 359 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: this point is like, fine, who cares, We'll take Westbrook 360 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: and maybe we can buy him out and save some 361 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: money there. But they're obviously in a completely different mode 362 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 2: the Jazz. So those guys as well, I don't think 363 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: would want to be a part of the Jazz this 364 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 2: season because they're not going to be anywhere near competing 365 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: for a championship, so they would probably welcome the opportunity. 366 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 2: But just thinking about it, I mean that's three guys, 367 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 2: and haven't you just said that their last roster spot 368 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 2: is taken up by Shrewder, So they would need to 369 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: create a little bit of space there, you know, to 370 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: make that happen. But I can actually see something like 371 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: that happening. Yeah. 372 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: I don't think it would be all three of them 373 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: coming back for a Westbrook in this hypothetical, but maybe 374 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: one or two of those pieces. I saw Mark Stein 375 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: writing about this as well too, Like, now, all of 376 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: these guards in the Lakers organization, like the truthest. Lebron 377 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: is the point go which is the whole funny part 378 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: of all of this. But Stein says the Lakers view 379 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: Westbrook and Shruder as their nominal point guards, while Beverly, 380 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: Kendrick Nunn, Austin Reeves, and Lonnie Walker the fourth are 381 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: like their wing players. So that's the thing. Really the 382 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: article is like leaning into Beverly could be like they're 383 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: really like they're their small forward. I guess, like a 384 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: three and D guy. I mean that's what he is. 385 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: So that was Stein with some clarification there, I guess. 386 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: I guess I say that too to hope that darwn 387 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: Ham starts all three of these guys, right, start them all. 388 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: Put Westbrook, shrewder Patrick, Beverley, Lebron, and Ad there's your 389 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: five go nuts. 390 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: Why not give? Yeah, I mean, that's the thing is 391 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: like they're all they're all kind of stubbing in their 392 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 2: own way too, so you know, they'll they'll it could 393 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: be just one of those things that is it completely 394 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: blows up in their face, But it could also be 395 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 2: one of those crazy things that somehow just works together 396 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: as well. You know, like it's hard to foresee that, 397 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 2: but all three of them at least have their you know, 398 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: the similar sort of style like that, So maybe it'll 399 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 2: become very difficult to defend because you don't know exactly 400 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: which one is going to be, you know, leading the 401 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 2: way there. But I'm just trying to think of Beverly 402 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: Shoot and wesb even just like in practices, those those 403 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: guys going at each other and in talking trash. I mean, 404 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 2: there's plenty of guys who cover the Lakers. Hopefully we'll 405 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 2: get some good clips on, you know, shared about what 406 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: goes on there behind the scenes. 407 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: As currently constructed. Like where do you even have the 408 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: Lakers in the Western Conference? Like do you have them 409 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: like a lock for the playoffs? Do you think they're 410 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: dabbling with the plan? Are they better than I don't know, like, 411 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: are they going to be better than the Blazers or Kins. 412 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Blazers I'm not sure about. But the Lakers I 413 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 2: think are going to be in a similar position as 414 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: they were last season, where you know, they didn't make 415 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 2: the players. I mean they could, they certainly could make 416 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: the playoffs, but I'm not I don't put them anywhere 417 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: near contending status right now because, look, Anthony Davis, his 418 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: health is always a problem, and that's becoming even more 419 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: and more significant. I think as his career gets on here, 420 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 2: Lebron's health himself, you know, that's starting to be a question. 421 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 2: And even Lebron last season, I thought, well, he's still 422 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 2: can go out and get twenty five thirty points any 423 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 2: night he wants. He just doesn't have that same impact 424 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 2: on a game anymore. He doesn't have that ability to 425 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 2: just you know, drag his team to victory like he 426 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: has done in years gone by. He's still a great, 427 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: great player, of course, but you know, you just don't 428 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: have that same power at the end of your career. 429 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 2: And then there's just too many other question marks about 430 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 2: the rest of the team for me that no one 431 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 2: like the Phoenix Suns and the Mavericks and you know 432 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 2: who are the Warriors and Nuggets. They shouldn't fear the 433 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: Lakers at all. I mean they should know that the 434 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 2: Lakers I think are pretty vulnerable, especially if things do 435 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: going crazy there with the point guards. So I don't 436 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: really have them, certainly not in the top four play 437 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: into the you know, to the sect. The lower part 438 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: of the standings, I think is where they're they're going 439 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 2: to finish. But not a contender at all for me. 440 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: I might be putting you on the spot here too. 441 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: But with Dennis Shrewder off the board, now, who are 442 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: like the top remaining free agents? 443 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: Uh? 444 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: You know, I guess Mellow is not with a team still. 445 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: It's like it's a bunch of old guys for being honest, right, 446 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: it's Mellow. So Marcus Aldridge, Blake Griffin, I don't yeh 447 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: in contracts, Marcus Cousins, he's not on rosters. 448 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, he might have something left, he looked. 449 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: I saw a video of him in some pickup game 450 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: looking quite selt. 451 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 452 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 2: I saw that actually too. He was looking pretty in 453 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: pretty good shape there. 454 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 455 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: Blake, Blake and la Marcus of course were there on 456 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 2: the nets last season, and Blake did like a tweet 457 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 2: someone said something about going back to the Clippers, So 458 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's got any traction, but he 459 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: didn't really leave things on good terms there with Steve Balmer, 460 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: so I'm not sure if if there's a return there 461 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: for him. But you know, as we've seen over years, 462 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 2: those guys at some point probably do get added to 463 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 2: a roster spot because they can still be, you know, 464 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: an effective veteran. I mean La Marcus Or we talked 465 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 2: about him on the Hall of Fame podcast. He's the 466 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: sort of veteran you'd like to have on your team. 467 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 2: You know. I think he's a good locker room guy. 468 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 2: You know, he's going to be able to go out 469 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: there at least give you a couple of buckets. He's 470 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: certainly not the player he was. So those guys, if 471 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 2: they are interested, I'm sure can still get picked up. 472 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: But there's no one really all that juicy out there 473 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: that's you know, that's still looking for a contract. So, oh, 474 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 2: what about finals MVP one shoe because he's he's free agent? 475 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: Is he at the main man? 476 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: He's on the Raptors, that's right? Yeah? Oh Cruise Baby. 477 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's Raps. 478 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, what about here's one for you? What about sign weight. 479 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: Look, hassa'm whiteside. Last season was actually not bad for 480 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 2: the Jazz. I thought again, as a bench player, his 481 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: biggest problem has always been his sort of effort levels. 482 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 2: But last season I thought he was actually decent backing 483 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: up Riudy Gobert. So he's somewhat of a rim protector. 484 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 2: He's a rebounder, and he can put back dunks and 485 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: things like that. So I'd be surprised. Again, honestly, the 486 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: Charlotte Hornets, why wouldn't they add him? They've got nothing 487 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: in the middle there. They could use somebody, just anybody 488 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 2: who can at least be some sort of a deterrent 489 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: at the rim. I think he's earned it. I mean, 490 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: you know, he's been a frustrating player throughout his career, 491 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: but when he chooses to he can still be effective. 492 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: So I thought he was decent, and I think he 493 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 2: will get picked up by somebody. 494 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, the stream team dropping a bunch of names. I 495 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: think MSI is right here, though, what about this guy? 496 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: This is like the worst version of what about this guy? 497 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: People are saying Dennis Smith Junior. I guess Tyrek Evans 498 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: is trying to make a comeback. I didn't even know 499 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: that somebody said Kemba Walker, but I thought Kemba Wiker 500 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: was actually on the Pistons technically still, So there's not 501 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: a lot out there, is what we're getting about here. 502 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 1: But I would expect these Hall of famers, Mellow, Aldridge, 503 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: maybe Blake, if they want to continue to play, I'm 504 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: with you, they're going to get added to a roster. 505 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: Cousins is probably the most speaking of all the names. 506 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Mellow. You know, like, if he wants 507 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: to get to thirty thousand points, he has to get 508 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 2: on a roster. He was fine shooting for the Lakers, 509 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 2: but he's just such a sieve defensively that you can't 510 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: have him out there for too long. But if a 511 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: team just needs a guy to come out and fire 512 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: a couple of threes, fine, But I mean, he's never 513 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: been a great defender. But we saw that in Portland 514 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: when the Blazers picked him up, and with the Lakers, 515 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 2: is he just he just doesn't give you anything defensively. 516 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 2: So if someone saying Dwight Howard's still available, I think 517 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: he's washed. I think he's done. Yeah, Dwight, Yeah, Dwight. 518 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: Dwight was terrible for the Sixers a couple of years ago, 519 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: and nothing for the Lakers last year. So I mean, 520 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 2: but sure someone again the Hornets. He was a former Hornet. 521 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 2: Maybe bring him back there? 522 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: Why not? 523 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: His answer is just go to the Hornets. 524 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: Well, they've got Plumbley and who else they got right now, 525 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: Like that was their biggest problem last season. They just 526 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 2: had nobody and they didn't do anything in the off season. 527 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: So they've done nothing. 528 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: That's true. 529 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it going here. Other piece of 530 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: news I really wanted to slip in. High schoolers could 531 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: return to the NBA Draft as early as twenty twenty four. 532 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: This is the Athletics Sham Sharanya reporting on Monday. As 533 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: the NBA and the NBA Players Association hammer out a 534 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: new collective bargaining agreement, both sides lee are in lockstep 535 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: on eliminating the infamous one and done rule. So we 536 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: could see that age requirement to enter the draft go 537 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: from nineteen to eighteen, going back to what was in 538 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: place from what ninety five to two thousand and five. 539 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was always this is something that's been 540 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: talked about a lot that look as soon as silver 541 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: came in. Yeah, and this is probably the father and 542 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: me talking here. That Look, I think players are better 543 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 2: when they come into the league when they're a little 544 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 2: bit more mature in their early twenties, are twenty twenty 545 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: one rather than eighteen or nineteen, because I think emotionally, physically, 546 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: and mentally, you just need a couple of extra years 547 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: before you join one of the most intense, globally popular leagues. 548 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: I think it's a lot to ask a young person 549 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 2: to be able to handle all that added pressure, money, fame, 550 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 2: all those sorts of things. So that's me as a 551 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: dad speaking, but as an eighteen year old as a 552 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: bus ball if you're good enough and you get drafted 553 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: and you're selected to play, then of course you want 554 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: to go and play and start earning that money. And 555 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: I think as well the NBA scene in recent times, 556 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 2: you know, guys like LaMelo Ball go to Australia because 557 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 2: these other leagues are like, hey, if you're not going 558 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 2: to get paid to play in college, come to Australia 559 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: or Europe will pay you and then you can actually 560 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: get some real experience and then you can still go 561 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: to the NBA and play. And so I think the 562 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 2: NBA is realizing Okay, we need to sort of make 563 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: sure that you guys don't go off and play in 564 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: other leagues. The college one and done rule it was 565 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 2: completely pointless if guys are only turning up for the 566 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: sake of turning up for me. So to get rid 567 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: of it and to allow now eighteen year olds back 568 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: in the league, it's fine in theory. 569 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: Big players stopped even doing the college route with the right, 570 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, addition of G League and go and play 571 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: in Australia and stuff like that. It was like, sort of, 572 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: what's the point. 573 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so you know, I'm just not surprised that 574 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: this is the thing. Again. The other thing, with time 575 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 2: and experience, you look at things like the draft and 576 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 2: you know, the contracts for players being drafted, and again 577 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 2: they need to also change as well. I think that 578 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 2: the way the structure is right now, I think it's 579 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: great that you are incentivized to sign with you know, 580 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 2: the first team and then you can get more money 581 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 2: of course if you stay with that team. But I 582 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: also think that that's a little bit out data that 583 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 2: needs to be reworked as well. Because the NBA has 584 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 2: tried in recent years to make the draft more fair 585 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: and to reduce the incentive to tanking, but it hasn't 586 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: necessarily worked. We still see teams basically mail in the 587 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: season just to still get a chance of getting that 588 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 2: high draft pick, and so I think that's another step 589 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: that needs to be you know, needs to be figured out, 590 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 2: because when you have teams not competitive throughout the season 591 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 2: for a long part of the season, that's a problem. 592 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: And that's why we've seen the playing tournament, and now 593 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 2: we're seeing that other you know, sort of soccer style 594 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: tournament that's coming in not this season, the following season. 595 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 2: I think the NBA is trying to find ways to 596 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: incentivize teams to play the entire season through because they're 597 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: not doing that right now, and that is a big problem. 598 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: We see John Michael Weisberg here in the stream team 599 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: between the G League, Nite MBL, and overtime Elite NIL deals, 600 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: players have lots of options. Now, that's very very true, 601 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: and this is and again this is something so Stern 602 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: was talking about this at the end of his tenure. 603 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: Silver was talking about this as soon as you took 604 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: over as commissioner, sort of this idea of like we 605 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: don't need to you don't need to be nineteen to 606 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: come into this league eighteen, and especially with I think 607 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 1: now the established like development systems in place. Yeah, I'm 608 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: not even talking about just growing them as basketball players, 609 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: but like you know, you talked about like them being immature, 610 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: because they are, they're like young kids. But yeah, teaching 611 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: them about money and teaching them about the league and 612 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: what comes with it all and fame and stuff like that. 613 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: Like there's that stuff is in place now and I 614 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 1: think can I mean obviously helps It's at least seemed 615 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: to help a lot of these players, especially with like 616 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: keep ing your finances in check, keeping the outsiders that 617 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: are just vultures, you know, you know, at arm's length, 618 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. 619 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: Just teaching them. Yeah, and you know, guys like Antoine 620 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: Walker is a good example of someone who you know, 621 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: he talked about when now he obviously got his big 622 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: money sort of further into his career there. You know, 623 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: during your peak, you're just paying your friends and close 624 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: people who want money for this and that, because you 625 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: think those wages are going to continue forever, and then 626 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: all of a sudden your career ends, the money runs out, 627 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: and nobody's around you any more to give back any 628 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: of the money they gave you. And that to me 629 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: is you know, such a such an important lesson to 630 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 2: learn because I remember seventeen and eighteen years old. You know, 631 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 2: you just you nowhere near mature enough to be able 632 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 2: to make all those decisions by yourself, and you are 633 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 2: vulnerable to outside influences. So those sorts of things are 634 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: very very important because if you are a talent, you 635 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: want to go and make you know, for ten to 636 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: fifteen years, whatever your career is, that's when you make 637 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: the most money. You want to be able to make 638 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: that and have that to be able to prolong your 639 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: life rather than get to thirty two thirty three be 640 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 2: retired and maybe you don't have any money. So you know, 641 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 2: there's a lot to consider here. But ultimately, if the 642 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: players are good enough, they want to be able to 643 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: enter the league at eighteen, and that's that's what it's 644 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: going to be. That's the decision that's going to be made. 645 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna I mean interior, we're seeing more what 646 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: Kobe's and Garnettes and mcgready's and Lebron, Dwight Howard he 647 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: was a high school I mean yeah, somebody on Twitter, 648 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: I didn't fact check it. But I think I had 649 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: the correct answer, and I think they were rate and 650 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: asking it. You name the last eighteen year old, like 651 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: the last street from high school to NBA player that 652 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: we had. 653 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: It was buying them, wasn't it. 654 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm not sure it was the last I guessed Amir Johnson. 655 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: I think you're right now I'm checking that. Yeah, I thought. 656 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 2: I think I think it was Amir Johnson. I think 657 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: he got drafted. 658 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: You know that last year, Bianer was drafted in all five. Yeah, 659 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: a Mirror was drafted and maybe a mere literally came 660 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: after it was drafted after him checking here. That's pretty funny. Uh, 661 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: first question, is Amir Johnson still in the NBA. 662 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 663 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: Uh, Mirror was also drafted in oh five. There it is, yeah, 664 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: there it is so same draft, but a mir was 665 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: like a second round pick. 666 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing. I mean, like all those you know, 667 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: all those guys you mentioned, you know, have been successful, 668 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: but there's also been other guys you know, who weren't 669 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 2: able to to make the leap, you know, like I 670 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 2: think Kwami Brown's a good one. Like I know he 671 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: sort of hung on for a while there, but he 672 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: certainly wasn't able to live up to the number one billings. 673 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: So it's it's tough. I mean, you've got to you've. 674 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: Got But the same the same is true with like 675 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: a bunch of one and done. Yeah, of course, I 676 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: mean it's yeah, yeah, Like I mean, some are going 677 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: to be failures. 678 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 2: And you know throughout of course throughout league history, you know, 679 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 2: top three to five draft picks, some of them, even 680 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: if they are ready, they just don't make it in 681 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 2: the NBA. So it always happens like that. It's just 682 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: like I say, I just you know, when you see 683 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: seventeen and eighteen year old kids and you're like, how 684 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: do you go from not earning money to all of 685 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 2: a sudden you're earning eight, ten, twelve million dollars a year? 686 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: And especially now you know with social media the way 687 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: it is, people just like everyone's just a vulture at you, 688 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: and if you don't have a strong support cast around it, 689 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: that's where you can just run into problems. So anyway, 690 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: there's but. 691 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: Now, I mean those kids at that age in the 692 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: in the current system, they can make money too. I 693 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: mean I know, not maybe well seven eight million dollars 694 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: a year, but they can make quite a bit of 695 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: money now if they're that popular, so the same the 696 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: same problem. You've got to have a system in place. 697 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: Well, and the NC double A is the most corrupt, 698 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 2: worst system of sport in the entire world. I mean, 699 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: that's just beyond a joke. You know, if you incentivize 700 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 2: or if you pay the players as they should be played, 701 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: then maybe some of them do stick around for a 702 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: couple of years and work on their game and get 703 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 2: themselves even more prepared for the NBA because they don't 704 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 2: need to jump to the NBA to get the paycheck. 705 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 2: I mean, how the NC double A is still a 706 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: thing as John Oliver does that does at Hey, how 707 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 2: is this still a thing like That's that's just beyond 708 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 2: bizarre that they you know, they sign like a ten 709 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: billion dollar TV contract and the players don't get a 710 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: penny of that. That is just insane to me. So 711 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 2: that's something that should be changed immediately. And then you 712 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 2: would do then you strengthen the college game, and if 713 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: you strengthen the development stages of a player's career, I 714 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 2: just think they're going to be readier for the NBA. 715 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: And so but of course it's not going to change. 716 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 2: Why would it. It works for the executives and the 717 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: coaches and the schools or get all the money and 718 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 2: then the players they just if they don't make it 719 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 2: to the NBA, then they're out trying to find a 720 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 2: contract in Europe. You can still get paid very very 721 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: nicely in Europe and some other leagues around the world. 722 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 2: But you should be paid what you are rowed for, 723 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: you know, playing basketball on the biggest stage in college 724 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 2: it's just bonkers to me, crazy. 725 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: We had I believe it's Trey here in the stream. 726 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: Team Monte Ellis, Lou Williams, Andre Blatch and Amir Johnson 727 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: were the last four players NBA players straight from high school. 728 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: They never should have stopped. Look at those four. 729 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 2: The Filippino you legend, Andre Black. 730 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's pretty good. It's a pretty good hit. 731 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: Great area can coming. 732 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 3: What do they do? 733 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: Finally, I don't know how much you watched this. Our 734 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: guy Task was doing a fun job with the YouTube 735 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: shorts sort of breaking it all down. But behind the 736 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: Hernan Gomaz Brothers Spain defeat of France and the EuroBasket 737 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two final captured its fourth gold medal and 738 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: first since twenty fifteen. Were you dabbling with any euro 739 00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: Basketball league? 740 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, you see the highlights come 741 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 2: across social channels and things like that. Fantastic tournament. I mean, 742 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: look at how strong this tournament was. That Luca didn't 743 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 2: make the final, Yannas didn't make the final, Nikola Jokic 744 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 2: didn't may find but these guys all played as hard 745 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 2: as they could. It means so much to these guys 746 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 2: to go out there and play in this tournament. And 747 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 2: next year in the Philippines, Indonesia and Japan, we've got 748 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 2: the World Cup. Now the USA will be favored, as 749 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: they deserve to be and as they always should be. 750 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 2: But I just think basketball globally is so strong right now, 751 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 2: and it's so good to see those guys playing, and 752 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 2: really it means so much to them when they don't win, 753 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 2: you know. I mean Yannis was devastated. I mean, he 754 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 2: got ejected there, but so was Luca, Luke and Luca. 755 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 2: They got upset by Poland Slovenia there, and that to 756 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 2: me shows that these guys aren't just sort of turning 757 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: up ah right, we've got to play for our country. 758 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 2: They're going out there to try to win and. 759 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 3: The next year. 760 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: I sometimes feel like they want to win this more 761 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 1: than any NBA championship. For being honest, I don't think 762 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: that's your. 763 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you're wrong in that. I mean 764 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 2: the NBA Championship means a lot, but playing for their 765 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 2: country and you see the crowds there as well, and 766 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 2: you see this in EuroBasket all the time. Like you know, 767 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 2: remember Luca talked about playing in Europe. How you know 768 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 2: it's harder to score in Europe, he said than in 769 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 2: the NBA. And he should know because he's been playing 770 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 2: in those leagues for nearly a decade now. Well obviously 771 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 2: last couple have been in the NBA here. But you know, 772 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 2: it was a really exciting tournament and to see the 773 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 2: fact that Spain come through and win it again when 774 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 2: I think they were one of the lower favorites too. 775 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 2: They certainly weren't. 776 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody thought with the Gasol brothers not playing, you know, 777 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: a couple other legends moving on, Rudy Fernandez is still there. Right, 778 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 1: It's like people thought, yeah, this would not be their 779 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: year or something like that, and it was still I 780 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: mean again, it was Juancho Abo Cruz Raptors picking them up. 781 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: What a steal. He had twenty seven to five to 782 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: one and two steals. And then his brother Willie he 783 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: had fourteen and eight in the final game. But he 784 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: was named MVP of the entire tournament. 785 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 2: He played that well. 786 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: So those guys were there, they're like, they're basically their 787 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: new Kasol brothers. 788 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it was Argentina won the South 789 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 2: American Cup too, So that next year's World Cup is 790 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 2: going to be awesome for basketball. It really is, because 791 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 2: you've got so many really deeply talented teams. But you know, 792 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 2: look we saw in the Olympics, you know, the USA, 793 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 2: they lost to France in the first game and then 794 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 2: ran the table from there. So but but the point 795 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 2: I'm trying to make is hopefully the United States looks 796 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 2: out and goes, Okay, these other countries are absolutely taking 797 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 2: it seriously. Now we've got to send our strongest, strongest 798 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 2: team to Asia next year because it's going to be awesome. 799 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: Have you already sent an email to somebody, some higher 800 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 1: up at the athletic asking if they'll send us for 801 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:49,959 Speaker 1: the World Cup? 802 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 3: To sure? 803 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how to answer that one. 804 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 3: Not sure? 805 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: Yes, the people he's all over it. Oh my goodness, 806 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: all right, Lee, we can call it there. That was 807 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: even longer than I thought we would do here, thirty 808 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: five plus minutes. Thanks again to everybody in the stream 809 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: team chiming in. It's nice to get some of your 810 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: comments up. I believe JD is gonna flip this into 811 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 1: a podcast, so hopefully that'll be hitting your apples and 812 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: your Spotify's and your pod beans as soon as possible. 813 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: Later this week, we got No Buffs again. That's got 814 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: its own YouTube and podcast feed. If you're a Survivor fan, 815 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: that's dropping on. We'll go live on Thursday morning because 816 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: it premieres on Wednesday night, and then No Bunts at 817 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 1: the end of the week with Tassie. What else you 818 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: got going on this week? Lely, because I mean, I'm 819 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: telling you you better you got you got not a 820 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: lot of time left before we're going to be full on, 821 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: like seven eight shows a week here. 822 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 2: I have got a historic event on Thursday night for 823 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 2: the final time ever, Elton John is playing. 824 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: The final time before the final time. 825 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 2: This will be the third time of his Final Tour, 826 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 2: Final Final World Tour that started in twenty eighteen that 827 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 2: I'll be seeing him live in concert. I think it 828 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:13,479 Speaker 2: started as I think it started as the Omni moved 829 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 2: to Phillips Arena now State Farm Arena, from when the 830 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 2: time he started this farewell to it. 831 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: You've seen him in all three. 832 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 2: And the boys will be coming along for their first 833 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 2: concept so bringing them to see Elton as as he 834 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 2: signs off for the final time. I'm sure I've seeing 835 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 2: this again in the next in the next couple of years. 836 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 2: So actually hoping to somehow squeeze a trip into Los 837 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 2: Angeles to see him at Dodger Stadium for his for 838 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 2: his final for his final tour, for his final ever 839 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 2: concert before he starts a tour of Australia where he 840 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 2: does his final, Final, Final, Final tour, and then he 841 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 2: ends in Europe next summer. 842 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: So I swear to God, you or your wife every 843 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: eight d's are attending either a play concert or an 844 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: Elton convinced. 845 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 2: I can't believe. Yeah, yeah, she just rocksan. I just 846 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,479 Speaker 2: saw Coldplane Lima and I got cut out of that trip. 847 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 2: She said she was going down to see her mum. 848 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 2: I said, okay. Coincidental timing, very coincidental timing there. Yeah, 849 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 2: I tell you man, that Coldplay, gig you get a 850 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 2: chance watch go to that show Man. That's the greatest 851 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 2: show on earth right now. 852 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: Even better than Elton, Wow, even better than Do you 853 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: think your kids at the concert on Thursday, will will 854 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: sing a lot? Will they say hold me close, closer 855 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: Tony Dancer? 856 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 857 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 2: They like they like Tiny Dan Tony Dancer. Yeah. Yeah, 858 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,720 Speaker 2: I don't think they'll quite get that that pop culture reference. 859 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 2: But no, they like Elton. I mean they look they 860 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 2: like Elton independently, but they also get to listen to 861 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 2: a lot of Elton when they're in the car with me. 862 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 2: So it's going on. They're looking forward to it, and 863 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 2: uh and some am I because well, I guess it 864 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 2: was what four years ago? Now I can't remember which 865 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 2: one it was, but Elton was actually really sick and 866 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 2: he just canceled a couple of shows in the nights 867 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 2: leading up. In Tampa he had you know, you know, 868 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 2: throat some sort of virus or something like that, and 869 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 2: you could tell he wasn't on his game. In Atlanta, 870 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 2: he was struggling to get through it. But then I 871 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 2: guess it was three years ago. I suppose it was 872 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 2: he brought he brought out his a game that night, 873 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 2: and he and he lit up the arena. 874 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: So I just hope for your sake, he says, Hello, Atlanta, 875 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: I missed you so much. I love this city. Is 876 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 1: Leels hearing hello, good sir, Well the us up on stairs, 877 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: shakes your hand. 878 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 2: He used to own I mean, the word on the 879 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 2: street around where I live is he owns still a 880 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 2: property just up the road for me, like we drive. 881 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 2: I've heard that, yeah, I mean, and he does say 882 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 2: that when he's in Atlanta. This is my home, you know, 883 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,280 Speaker 2: one of my taxes, taxes, this is one of my homes. 884 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 2: I love Atlanta, and I want to say, way, when's 885 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 2: the last time you lived here? For like six I 886 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 2: haven't seen you in Petmont Park walking your dog? 887 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 3: You know, like when when? 888 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: When? 889 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 2: When do you? You know? 890 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 3: When? 891 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 2: Does that count? But anyway, whether it's true or not, 892 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 2: we and Buckhead here love to believe that Elton actually 893 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 2: lives just up the road. And we might we might 894 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 2: bump into publics one day just doing the shopping there 895 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 2: with David. 896 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: So Elton John may Or may not live in Atlanta. 897 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 3: Cool story. 898 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: Yes there it is all right, lely Well, I will 899 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,919 Speaker 1: see you at some point. I'm sure later this week. 900 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: If not later this week, for sure next week. As 901 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: we get closer and closer to the start of the 902 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: NBA season, I'm going to give you like three seconds 903 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: to think of a final quote, because we're gonna say 904 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: hello to the Clipper. 905 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 2: Bro. 906 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 3: You heard it here first, Have a great time, turn up, 907 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 3: Love you guys, awesome Blue Jean, baby La Lady, embrace 908 00:42:55,520 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 3: the name you can stay every day. 909 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: And that you happy every minute. 910 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 3: It's been so long that you're the fun of waiting for. 911 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 3: It's happened already. It's gonna be grippy.