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Speaker 1: that's the NFL. I mean that's probably the NFL's best

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Speaker 1: David Tepper, you know, is he rattled by this move?

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Speaker 1: Does he just go to an NFL coordinator? Now? Does?

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Speaker 1: Florio wrote an article about him being interested in Sean Payton.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why Sean Payton would have any interested

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Speaker 1: in this job. Do they go full tank? Do they

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Speaker 1: trade their players? A lot of people on the internet,

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Speaker 1: or like DJ Moore? Should he be on the block?

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade Dj Moore, but hell, if you get

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Speaker 1: a first round pick, maybe you blow the thing up.

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Speaker 1: Here's the problem with blowing the thing up. Does that

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Speaker 1: make the job more enticing or is the job more

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Speaker 1: intriguing to a can of it? If they're better players

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Speaker 1: on the roster. I mean, there's not necessarily a right

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Speaker 1: or wrong answer. But I think this is why you

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Speaker 1: make the move now, so you can start going upon

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Speaker 1: the hiring process, so you can start going upon your

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Speaker 1: short list. You're not doing anything shady, and you allow

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Speaker 1: this guy to get back into college because it was

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Speaker 1: just clearly not working out. I mean, I don't even

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Speaker 1: think I would say. The Niners played like a B

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Speaker 1: game B minus game and they beat the living piss

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Speaker 1: out of him. So the Panthers were trending. I picked

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Speaker 1: them to win the division. That was wrong. I shorted

446
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: Brady and the divorce turns out he's unfazed by marital issues.

447
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Speaker 1: He keeps kicking ass and he gets great calls on

448
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Speaker 1: roughing the passer. But Matt rules out Carolina Panthers. You know,

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Speaker 1: first job open, and we'll see where it trends. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I got no clue. And anytime you have you know

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Speaker 1: an owner making a second higher, your guests as good

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Speaker 1: as mine. And then let's uh, I watched I didn't

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Speaker 1: watch it yesterday. The Rams and the Cowboy Game. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with the Rams. I'm gonna use this analogy for

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Speaker 1: the Rams. Let's say two of us go to the

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Speaker 1: blackjack table. We each have five thousand dollars. If every

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Speaker 1: hand of black jack, I pay a thousand dollars. If

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Speaker 1: I lose every single one, I'm only gonna get five hands.

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Speaker 1: If you have five thousand dollars and you play a

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars of hands, you're going to get do the

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Speaker 1: math fifty hands and that if you win some you

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Speaker 1: double down. Who knows, you have a lot more options

463
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Speaker 1: and you have a lot more time before you hit zero.

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Speaker 1: The Rams play black jack, they have the same amount

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Speaker 1: of money is every other team because like as David

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Speaker 1: Tepper mentioned his press conference, is Howie Roseman has talked

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Speaker 1: about before. Every team is the same amount of salary

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Speaker 1: cap space. Every team has the same amount of draft capital.

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Speaker 1: You just get to choose how you want to use it.

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Speaker 1: And the Rams have chosen over the years to trade

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Speaker 1: for Jalen Ramsey, just trade for Matt Stafford. I've understood

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Speaker 1: why they've done it, but when you do that, you

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Speaker 1: limit your ability. Like ultimately, the Rams, they haven't picked

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Speaker 1: in the first round for what feels like a decade.

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Speaker 1: Hell a lot of those years they didn't even have

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Speaker 1: a second round pick, like one reason them in the Niners,

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Speaker 1: for example, the Niners have a ton of injuries to

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Speaker 1: star players, yet when you watch them they have way

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Speaker 1: more depth than the Rams. Well, why well they Aaron

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Speaker 1: Banks second rounder last year, uh Drake Jackson second rounder

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Speaker 1: this year, Deebo Samuel second rounder a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: They've used a lot of second round picks, let alone

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Speaker 1: first round picks on players, so their margin for error

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Speaker 1: when it comes to injuries or poor play or a

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Speaker 1: miss in free agency is much greater. For example, the

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Speaker 1: Rams they take a swing on Allen Robinson that has

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Speaker 1: not worked at all. So when you take a big

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Speaker 1: swing in free agency and you allocate fifteen twenty thirty

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Speaker 1: million dollars into one player and you don't get great

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Speaker 1: return on investment, you're gonna be in trouble. And then

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Speaker 1: here's another example, the forty Niners had Joe Staley retired,

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Speaker 1: they were gonna be in major trouble if Trent Williams

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Speaker 1: didn't basically dictate his way to the forty Niners. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Rams have Andrew Whitworth who retires, and there's not

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Speaker 1: some random Trent Williams that Sean McVeigh knew that wanted

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Speaker 1: to play for him. So they're basically shift out of luck.

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Speaker 1: Just like the majority of teams that don't have a

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Speaker 1: first round pick, that don't have much salary cap space,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do if you're starting left tackle retires,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you're gonna do. You're gonna insert

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Speaker 1: a backup, and then immediately you're going to be in trouble.

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Speaker 1: And then if you have an injury or two, all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden you're behind the eight ball. And let's

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Speaker 1: face it, the Rams offensive line hasn't been that good

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Speaker 1: for a while. So when you watch him the last

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks play the Cowboys play the forty niners,

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Speaker 1: they are getting dominated at the point of attack. Like listen,

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford can be a roller coaster ride. He throws

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Speaker 1: a lot of picks, and he threw, you know, a

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Speaker 1: pretty bad one at the end of the game. But

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Speaker 1: he is getting peppered over and over and over again.

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Speaker 1: He's not Lamar Jackson. He can't just run away from pressure,

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Speaker 1: so he's not necessarily a sitting duck because he's not

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Speaker 1: Brady or Manning or Philip River. He can move a

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Speaker 1: little bit, but he can't move that much, and he

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Speaker 1: definitely can outrun the Micah Parsons. The Nick Bosa's help

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Speaker 1: most of the defensive tackles in the league, so he's

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Speaker 1: running for his life. He's got one guy that they

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Speaker 1: can depend on who is fucking fantastic in Cooper Cup,

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00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: who had an unreal touchdown yesterday on like a slant route,

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Speaker 1: took it to the house, but doesn't have anyone else.

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Speaker 1: There's no Robert Woods on this team. That's another underwrating

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Speaker 1: part about this team for the last several years. The

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Speaker 1: moment they traded for as he likes to go by

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Speaker 1: Bobby Trees, Robert Woods and Cooper Cup made up a

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Speaker 1: very very good duo and then Higgy came into his own.

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Speaker 1: They had multiple weapons. Well that's what I said about

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Speaker 1: the Niners, Like they don't just have Deebo Samuel, they

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Speaker 1: also have Brandon Auk, who I don't know they used

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Speaker 1: a first round draft pick on. They don't just pull

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Speaker 1: these players out of nowhere. They use high a lot

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Speaker 1: of capital to acquire these guys. The Rams don't have

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Speaker 1: that leeway. So when they miss on Allen Robinson and

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Speaker 1: he's nowhere near what Robert Woods for them, they're at

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Speaker 1: a huge disadvantage and they're deep doesn't playing that bad.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's not like the Cowboys scored threte

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Speaker 1: eight points yesterday, Cooper Rush. They threw for a hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: But their margin for error right now because their offense

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Speaker 1: struggles to score points is very, very slim. And it

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Speaker 1: looks it looks really bad. And here's the other thing.

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Speaker 1: Even though McVeigh comes from the Shanahan tree, like ultimately

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Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan and then Kyle Shanahan and Gary Kubiak as well,

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Speaker 1: Like that crew of guys, really Mike Kubiak and then Kyle,

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Speaker 1: they love to run the football. It's their ethos as

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Speaker 1: a coach, right, Andy Reid's like his ethos is throwing

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Speaker 1: the football. Bill Walsh's ethos was throwing the football. Now

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Speaker 1: Andy likes throwing deep. Walsh likes throwing short. Kyle likes

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Speaker 1: running the zone scheme just like Kubiak did, just like

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Speaker 1: his dad did. Sean McVeigh while he learned from those guys. Ultimately,

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Speaker 1: he likes throwing the football. And I got no problem

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Speaker 1: with that. Ultimately, you gotta stay true to yourself, right,

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Speaker 1: You gotta be whatever you do for any job, whoever

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Speaker 1: your mental is, they can teach you things. You can

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00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: learn a lot from them, but for you to be successful,

555
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: you have to do it your way. Now, you can

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Speaker 1: take what they're teaching you and use that maybe as

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00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: the base, but you gotta put your own personal spin

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Speaker 1: on them. It's why he ultimately wanted to get rid

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Speaker 1: of Jared Goff and get Matt Stafford because he aspired

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Speaker 1: to throw the football. But to throw the football in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, you need a good offensive line. The majority

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Speaker 1: of Andy Reid's career in Philadelphia and then in Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: in multiple iterations with Alex and now with Mahomes, he's

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Speaker 1: had good offensive lines. Why Because I can't depend on

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Speaker 1: throwing the ball forty plus times a game if I

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Speaker 1: can't protect my passer. And right now Matt Stafford feels

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00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: like he's on the ground every other play and it's

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Speaker 1: not a sustainable way to play. And for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan used to do this. Gary Kubiak took Arian Foster,

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Speaker 1: who I think was like a seventh round draft pick,

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Speaker 1: and Kyle every single year has new running backs. Yet

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Speaker 1: McVeigh like the easiest, Like it is hard to sometimes

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Speaker 1: find wide receivers right, It's not just some easy thing

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Speaker 1: to just go find a guy that can get you

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Speaker 1: eighty catches. But I should be able to find running

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Speaker 1: backs who can function even if my offensive line is

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Speaker 1: just okay. Now you could argue if your offensive line

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00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: is so terrible even in years past, guys like sa

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Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley can't find green grass. And that's a problem

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Speaker 1: with the Rams. I don't know if they have that

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Speaker 1: much talent in their backfield. McVeigh doesn't really want to

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Speaker 1: run it, and then their offensive line can't sustain block.

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Speaker 1: So it's just a double whammy. And they find themselves

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Speaker 1: in only passing situations. And Matt Stafford does two things.

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Speaker 1: One he turns the ball over and too he's just

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Speaker 1: under pressure. So anytime you're under pressure, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: just be successful. And the Rams are kind of been shambles.

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Speaker 1: Now they get Steve Wilks and they get the Carolina

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Speaker 1: Panthers this week Baker mayfields in a boot. P J.

590
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Speaker 1: Walker is gonna start. Should be a get right game,

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Speaker 1: be three and three, But like they got major flaws,

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Speaker 1: I by no means think they are a lock playoff team. Ultimately,

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Speaker 1: McVeigh might have to pivot on the fly. He can't

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Speaker 1: be stubborn and just stick with the like. To me,

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00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: he's got a hammer the run game, but I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that's what he really wants to do. And

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Speaker 1: then on the flip side, we've all shoot on this guy,

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00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: and I'm just as guilty as anybody. But you gotta

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00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: give Mike McCarthy some credit because we love crushing guys

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Speaker 1: when things are going bad. Kingsbury, Brandon Staley, you know

601
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: it happens over and over in the profession. But he's

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Speaker 1: four and one, so no one in their right mind

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Speaker 1: if they were fully healthy. I didn't view the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: as a four and one team, honestly, I viewed them

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00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: as like a nine and eight team. And that's back

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Speaker 1: before Dak Prescott ever got injured. Now they're four and one.

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00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: Anytime you're four and one, like they're big underdog this

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00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: week with the Eagles, but who knows, Like I'm not,

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Speaker 1: your defense is that good, and their defense right now

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Speaker 1: is fantastic. Dan Quinn, There's there's a ton of credit.

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Speaker 1: He's really carrying the Cowboys. Now. I'm not acting like

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Speaker 1: I believe if I could have Mike McCarthy as my

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Speaker 1: head coach, I'd want him, I wouldn't, but like his

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00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: resume speaks for itself. Right now, he's twelve and five.

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Speaker 1: Last year, he's four and one. This year he's the headman.

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Speaker 1: You get all the grief, you also get all the credit.

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Speaker 1: But clearly, if you watch the Cowboys, dan Quinn is

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00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: done a fantastic job because that defense gets after your ass,

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Speaker 1: and Michael Parsons is kicking button taking names. The rest

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00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: of their defensive line is flying around. They just they

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Speaker 1: they've been awesome. I mean, they really have. And that

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Speaker 1: game Sunday night has the NFL licking their lips because

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Speaker 1: anytime they can get an NFC East battle that matters

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Speaker 1: in Sunday or Monday night football, it's called rating scolore.

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00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: And game at Philly a huge game for Syrianni and

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, not just because they're really good, but because

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, you know, the final game last year did

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Speaker 1: not matter right week a team the Eagles, rest of

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Speaker 1: their players, and I think i've I've said over the

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Speaker 1: year that they split. Cowboy fans got really mad at me.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys swept him last year, but the last game

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Speaker 1: I'm not even counting, but the game that did Matt matter.

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Speaker 1: Last year, I'm pretty sure is Monday Night Football one

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Speaker 1: of the worst games Jalen Hurts has ever played. Cowboys

635
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Speaker 1: beat the living piss out of them. It's a It's

636
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: a massive game. Now the Eagles are I think our

637
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: five and a half point favorite. They should be. It's

638
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: hard to bet against the Birds. You know, Cooper Rush,

639
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: You're just not gonna be the Eagle strong for hundred yards.

640
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: You know. I want to do a little something today

641
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: called the Good, Bad and the ugly. Uh just pick

642
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: a couple of things that I saw yesterday, and to me,

643
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: the good has to just be the Eagles. I mean,

644
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: you're five and oh you found a way to win

645
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: in several different avenues. You've been up big, you've been

646
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: up small, You've been down yesterday on the road. Even

647
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: though I don't think Arizona is any good. I think

648
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: Kyler is having a terrible season, Kingsbury is having an

649
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: even worse season. The Arizona franchise and shambles. But what

650
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: do you do. You have a long road trip and

651
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: you come out and before you blank your up fourteen

652
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: nothing and you're in complete control of the game. Now,

653
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: somehow the Arizona Cardinals always come back out of nowhere.

654
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: Kyler runs around, But they didn't deserve to win that game. Uh,

655
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,239
Speaker 1: they screwed up at the end of the game. Now

656
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: you could argue the clock operator. Who ever. In Glendale,

657
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: some people say there was an Eagles writer that said

658
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: he looked up and when Kyler slid on second down,

659
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: and when he spiked it on third down, if you

660
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: looked up, it said fourth down. Like the clock operator

661
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: was all messed up and threw Kyler off. I don't know, man,

662
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: All I do know is that Kyler is just not

663
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: the most trustworthy guy. And I'll get into this a

664
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: little bit later, but Jalen's a better player than Kyler Murray.

665
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: Right now, when guy's a second round pick making like

666
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: a million dollars, the other guy makest I know which

667
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: guy I'd rather have. And the Eagles should be pretty

668
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: fired up because their team top to bottom is just loaded.

669
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: They're playing great, and they get an opportunity this weekend

670
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: to take full control of that division. I think the

671
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: bad would be the officiating. Obviously, a lot of people

672
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: like middle what's your take on the Brady call? Well,

673
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: my overall take is, listen, this is what everyone wanted

674
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: CT concussions. Get that out of the game, make the

675
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: game safer. The NFL getting sued left and right, college football,

676
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: you know, kicking people out of games for targeting. Nothing

677
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: I hate more. But they have overreacted. They have gone

678
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: above and beyond the wrong way. Obviously you want the

679
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: game to be safe, but these calls on the quarterback

680
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: the last several years have been an embarrassment. Guys barely

681
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 1: get touched and they throw flags for you know, hurting

682
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback. There's not a comment. I hate worse in

683
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: football than defenseless. There is no such thing. If you

684
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: were in an NFL game or a college game at

685
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: wide receiver, a defenseless wide receiver, No, the moment the

686
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: ball is snapped, you know what you signed up for.

687
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: And the reality is I'm not allowed to hit you

688
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: in the head anyway anymore. But if I hit you

689
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 1: in the chest, been your defenseless, that's a fifteen yard penalty.

690
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: That really bothers me. But that's what everyone pushed for

691
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 1: five six years ago, when everyone went eight when nuts

692
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: and that fucking movie with Will Smith came out about concussion.

693
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: It was literally called concussion. This is what everyone wanted

694
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: so the referees have gone completely crazy on the other

695
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: end now and get so flag happy the moment I

696
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: touch a quarterback. And obviously Tom Brady is the poster

697
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: child because years ago they implemented the rule that you

698
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: can't hit him in the lake, and anytime Brady gets touched,

699
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: he gets flagged. Now. Was that an egregious error by

700
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: the referee, of course, But I say it all the time.

701
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: Two professions where you can be inept and keep your job.

702
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: It's you know, in the political realm, politicians and referees.

703
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they can just be consistently terrible and uh,

704
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: you know, just keep their profession, keep their jobs. And

705
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: that call was a joke. But now Tom Brady single, Now,

706
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: maybe the NFL threw him a bone for doing all

707
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: that he's done for them for twenty two years. But

708
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't get that worked up for the

709
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons because I just simply don't care about Atlanta. Now,

710
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: if that had been a game where where I think

711
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: it's two playoff teams, now you could argue Atlanta has

712
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: been feisting, and they have, but I think they'll come

713
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: back to us pretty quickly. Here. Now, I get why

714
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith's piste off because that call, it's pretty outrageous,

715
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: but it happened. And if you watch football on Saturdays

716
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: and Sundays, you consistently see calls when it comes to

717
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: the violence in the game, when it comes to you know,

718
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: quote unquote headhunting or targeting that you're like, give me

719
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: a break, But that's what we've all signed up for

720
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: with the reaction of five six years ago, because to me,

721
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: they went too far the other way. Uh. And then

722
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: the ugly would have to be the combination of Mike

723
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: Tomlin and Dan Campbell. The Steelers and the Lions got

724
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: beat by a combined sixty seven to three. The Lions

725
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 1: against Billy's Appy lost twenty nine to nothing. Mike Tomlin

726
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: and the Pittsburgh Steelers have their biggest loss since nineteen

727
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: eighty nine. Anytime you see a stat like that, something

728
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: hasn't happened since the eighties. When you have a franchise

729
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: that is consistently one like the Steelers, that's an eye open.

730
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: Just like when they said the Steelers were the biggest

731
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: underdog in the history of the France Chase, like, that's

732
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: pretty crazy, and it turned out to not even be

733
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: close to a big enough line. The Steelers are really

734
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: really bad. Their offense is atrocious, they can't run the ball.

735
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: Their defensive with t. J. Watt is a shell of itself.

736
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're quite number one overall pick bad,

737
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: but they're definitely close to number one pick bad than

738
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: they are a competitive football team right now. And the

739
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: Bills early in that game, since Blood and the Water

740
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: and they beat the living ship out of them. And

741
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: the Lions, Dan Campbell called that um basically, they hit

742
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: rock bottom. Those were his exact words. They hit rock bottom. Yeah, Dan,

743
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: you did because I had someone that thought you were

744
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: gonna be feisty, someone that thought you could win some games,

745
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: you could even compete, maybe not make a wild card.

746
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: But when like seven and Tan and be in the

747
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: mix headed into December, that's not happening. I think we're

748
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: gonna see a team that is uh. I mean, their

749
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators terrible. Jared Goff's you know, I know everyone's

750
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: like Jared Goff. Look at the stats. Yes, stats aren't normal.

751
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: When you're down points in the game and you throw

752
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns, I don't view that the same

753
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: game is when you're in a tie game and you

754
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: throw a couple of touchdowns, it's I don't want to

755
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: quite say hollow stats, but I don't view those as

756
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: like Josh Allen Patrick mahomestats. And it's clearly clearly kind

757
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: of playing out that way. So it turns out the

758
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: Lions are pretty awful and the Steelers, which actually remember

759
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: they tied last year, might actually be very similar to

760
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: each other. A couple other things. Carson Wentz just a

761
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: bizarre player. Yesterday, he was having a very very good game.

762
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: He was thirty seven with multiple touchdowns, and the Commanders

763
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: are driving the field there in the red zone. I

764
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: think they're at like the six yard line, down four

765
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: with a chance to win the game. And what does

766
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: he do. He throws it to a Tennessee Titan. The

767
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,959
Speaker 1: Titans win the game. And then today Ron Rivera asked

768
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: the difference of his team in a rebuild compared to

769
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: all the other teams, and he simply said the quarterback.

770
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: So basically, the head coach, who's a high character, good guy,

771
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: basically said the reason we suck is Carson went Now,

772
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that's totally true, but Carson just kills you. Man.

773
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he makes some of the worst mistakes at

774
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: the most inopportune times. Like he's for a guy with

775
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: just physical special physical gifts, nobody can just deflate you

776
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: more than Carson Wentz. And speaking of deflation, Jacoby said,

777
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: you could just watch him and go got it. You know,

778
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: I kind of like Jacoby, look at this just leading

779
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: the Browns. They're beating the Chargers. He's having a really

780
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: good game. Fourth quarter, big spot, rolls out, throws it

781
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: right to a linebacker. You just and I forget the

782
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: exact staff, but he's got a bunch of picks this

783
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: year in the fourth quarter. He just kills you when

784
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: it matters. Because the Browns, they have a really talented team.

785
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: They have a ton of good players on defense. Nick

786
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: Chubb's stud Amari I think tapped out yesterday on a

787
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: big drive. But you know, make some plays out a

788
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: touchdown yesterday, tight end suite. Their offensive line is good.

789
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: It's just very very hard to win weekend week out

790
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: with the backup quarterback. And you know, just speaking of

791
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: the two quarterbacks, and we talked last week about the

792
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley guys, Jalen Hurts is just a better player

793
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: than Kyler Murray just period, point blank, end of story.

794
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: Right now, in two thousand and twenty two, Jalen Hurts

795
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: is a better player than Kyler Murray. Now, he's not

796
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: more talented. Kyler is faster, he's more elusive, he's got

797
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: a bigger arm. But when you just watched the two

798
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: guys play, and I had the game on yesterday, but

799
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: I was more focused on the Niner game. I I

800
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: just rewatched it this morning, I just feel like Jalen

801
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: is a more common presence. You know, that's something is

802
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: just really really off. We all agreed it was insane

803
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 1: for them to give Kyler that contract. He was acting

804
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: like a baby. He demanded money, he had never proven anything,

805
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: and he's gotten worse. They already had reservations because he

806
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: played video games. He wouldn't study. Think about that like

807
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: it's funny, but it's also like, you're gonna pay this

808
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: guy forty five million dollars a year and you're worried

809
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: that he plays too many video games and doesn't focus

810
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: enough on his job. Say that out loud and whatever

811
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: job you do. Imagine if your employer or if you

812
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: own a business, if you were worried like you had

813
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: an employee he thought was really talented, but you just

814
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: didn't think his focus was there. And the reason he

815
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: wasn't focused not because you know, he's like going through

816
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: divorce or his kid was sick or something happened with

817
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: his parents. It was because he couldn't put down the

818
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: fucking controller, can't not not pay. I can't trust this guy,

819
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: yet they gave him all that money, like this is

820
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: what they signed up for. And the reason the Eagles

821
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: were bullish on Jalen Hurts and I don't think they

822
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: ever thought he'd you know, they can say that I'm

823
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: calling a little bit of bs. They ever thought he'd

824
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: beat this good But the reason they did believe in

825
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: the guy was because of how folkused he was, because

826
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: of how much he cared, because of how serious he

827
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: took his craft. Basically the complete opposite of Kyler Murray.

828
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: Like football meant everything to him and it's paying off

829
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: in dividends and they've done a good job building up

830
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: the team around him. The defense is awesome. A J.

831
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: Brown's stud, Davante Smith's stud. The Eagles man just you

832
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: know five and oh, no big deal. Okay, let's get

833
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: to the mail bag at John middlecoff is the Instagram

834
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: fire in those d m s. Get your question answered

835
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: here on the show The Dawn Zinger for the bag,

836
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: the Chargers and Bengals should both fire their head coaches

837
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: regardless of the results at the end of the season,

838
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: and higher Sean Payton either quarterback coach Combo would straight

839
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: up with straight soggy bread, just nasty. Yeah. I would

840
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: say Sean Payton with Joe Burrow or Justin Herbert would

841
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: be a pretty good one. I can't see the Bengals

842
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: doing that. Owner too cheap. Chargers, you know, l a

843
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: little desperation. Who knows that's does not feel like it's

844
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: trending well. Question for the podcast last night. Justin Tucker

845
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Speaker 1: proved to get in. He is one of the best

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Speaker 1: kickers in NFL history. He has not missed a fourth

847
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: quarter overtime kick since two thousand fifteen. That's a good

848
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: stat We're seeing a lot of kickers miss backbreaking kicks

849
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: all across the league on a regular basis. We always

850
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: have If Tucker was a true free agent, how much

851
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: would a team give him per year? Eight million? Twelve million,

852
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: twelve feels a little high? Yeah, I could see eight

853
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: eight nine I mean, he's a pretty valuable asset when

854
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: you don't miss a kick, for sure. So twelve, you know,

855
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: the salary caps two million dollars, Investing over five percent

856
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: of your cap to a kicker feels a little unlikely.

857
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: But you know, if I thought I'd have to pull

858
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: some GMS, maybe it's maybe it's not that crazy, depending

859
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: on how much you're paying your quarterback. The problem is

860
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: his value. You know, if you like the Lions, the

861
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: jaz the Texans, let's say, teams that have a lot

862
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: of cap space, it would probably make sense. But you know,

863
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: in terms of if you'd have the money to do it,

864
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: But he wouldn't impact your season that much. You know,

865
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: he might be the difference of winning four games or

866
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: six games, right, But if you're the Packers or Shift,

867
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: the Ravens, you know, the Niners, the Rams, you know,

868
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: like playoff contenders, you don't have the money to pay

869
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: a twelve million dollar kicker, So it's kind of a

870
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: tough spot. I think he would probably end it like eight.

871
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: You're probably right. I'm a Packer fan, Please help. The

872
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: only thing that makes me happy is knowing that we

873
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: aren't the Lions. You can't lose the Giants. Not when

874
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: you're up seventeen to three, not when you're up twenty

875
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: to ten at halftime. That that that just can't happen.

876
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 1: You can't lose that game. You know. I heard Colin

877
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: kind of go on a rant on his on his

878
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: radio show. You know, the floor part of the up

879
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: in a game is coming out a halftime having the

880
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: plan to basically execute your opponent. You have Aaron fucking

881
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 1: Rogers on your team that loss. Maybe had some bad

882
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: losses that loss, Like, to me, you get blown out.

883
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 1: They've had a couple of blow out lost, lost, couple whatever.

884
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: I don't care. To me, losing a game like that

885
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: is beyond devastating, and you kind of feel it sometimes

886
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: when they get must passing situations and Davante is not

887
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: there and he's got to throw. You know that they

888
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 1: were relying a lot on Randall Cobb in the slot

889
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: and Alan Lazard and we kind of knew it, but

890
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: when you actually see it, you're like, now, I don't

891
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: blame those guys for losing the game because ultimately got

892
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: balls batted, you know, And I would say I would

893
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: take my chances ten out of ten times with Aaron

894
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: Rodgers on Thurm short and fourth and short the batted balls.

895
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: It's a shitty way to lose. To lose a game

896
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: where you're winning at halftime, winning in the second half

897
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers against Daniel Jones, who actually played well.

898
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: Lifelong Cowboys fan, former high school football coach. Okay, okay. Here,

899
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: Adam Cooper Rush has played well, there's no arguing it,

900
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: and he has been predicted by an obviously elite defense,

901
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: but it has to be said that he's always been

902
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: protected by an offensive approach and play calling. During this stretch,

903
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: the staff has found a winning formula, one that works

904
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: no matter who the quarterback is. How is important if

905
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: they stick with his blueprint when Dak returns. My point

906
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: is it's crucial for Dallas not to go throwing forty

907
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: times a game when he comes back, just because Dak

908
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: is in. He's being paid to win, and that's the

909
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: blueprint for what they found in his absence. Completely agree.

910
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: I mean, Dax's had a lot of success when they

911
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: ran the ball well. When he when they have been

912
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: depended on him to throw the ball over and over,

913
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: it's where they get in trouble. I say it all

914
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: the time. Like Dak's arm is not that great, but

915
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: you don't need me to say it. Just watched like

916
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: his arm and Cooper Rush's arm aren't that different. Dak

917
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: does not have Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady or Patrick

918
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: Mahomes or Josh Allen's arm, So we can't just make

919
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: all these insane throws. And the more he has to throw,

920
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: the more likely he's going to throw it to the

921
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: other team. To me, if you can just run him

922
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: like a Jimmy Garoppolo type game plan eighteen of and

923
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: run the ball and play defense, that is the way

924
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: to play, honestly, play more like the forty Niners. Don't

925
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: try to be some mix of the Bills and Chiefs

926
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott just because you're paying the guy forty

927
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: million dollars. I couldn't agree anymore. The more Dad has

928
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 1: to throw, the more I want to play Dak Prescott.

929
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Speaker 1: I'm moving to Scottsdale in November to pursue professional golf,

930
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: planning on catting down there in the meantime to make

931
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Speaker 1: some extra cash. I know some people at Scottsdale National,

932
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: Whisper Rock and silver Leaf. Any recommendations on which course

933
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: to caddy at would appreciate any feedback. Well Ship, invite

934
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 1: me to play all those courses. I am more than willing.

935
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: I'll give you a follow after this question, I would

936
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: say I've never played any of the three. I would

937
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: love to. UM know a couple of people at Whisper.

938
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Speaker 1: I've heard it's pretty sweet silver Leaf inspire to be

939
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: there one day. It's from what i've heard badass. Scottsdale

940
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: National is the course that's owned by the guy that

941
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Speaker 1: owns p x G. Also, i've heard the most exclusive

942
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Speaker 1: course around here, so I don't I don't think you

943
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Speaker 1: go wrong in any of them. I don't know the

944
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Speaker 1: caddy situation though at any three. Um, if you come

945
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: down you want to play a little golf, Gonzaga golfer,

946
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: let's let's play. Shut your follow there, Matt. I love

947
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: the podcast as a Steeler fan. I want to know

948
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: where you rank the James Harrison pick six in Santonio

949
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: Holmes toe tap game winning touchdown against the Cardinals. In

950
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: terms of all time Super Bowl moments, well, I could

951
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: just speak the super Bowl moments to my life. You know,

952
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: I don't remember the seventies or even the eighties, and

953
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: even the early nineties. I would say the first massive

954
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: Super Bowl mo ament, Like a lot of Super Bowls

955
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: in my youth were like the Cowboys big win, Niners blowout,

956
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys blowout, the Packers beat the Patriots. I remember that

957
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: John Elway helicopter. That was a pretty big moment. I

958
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 1: would say that James Harrison chase or Larry Fitzgerald chased

959
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: down had to be right up there. The pick of

960
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner and Oh eight Santonio toe tap pretty high

961
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: up there. I would say Philly Special would be right

962
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: up there. I would say the craziest moment though of

963
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 1: my adult life, would be the pick the Russell Wilson

964
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: interception to Malcolm Butler, which you could argue, is you

965
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: know a top five crazy moment in the history of

966
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: professional sports game winners? I mean Michael Jordan against the

967
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: Jazz Malcolm Butler, trying to think of a World Series one,

968
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: Joe Carter, I mean it, it would be on the shortlist,

969
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: but I would say I would put Malcolm Butler pick

970
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: above both. Uh. Last question, Hey, John, big fan question,

971
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: dB is nearly impossible to evaluate. A good dB in

972
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: college doesn't always seem to translate to the NFL. And

973
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 1: it seems they are almost set up to fail based

974
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: on rule trends and their dependence on a strong pass rush.

975
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: What do you think, Yeah, I mean well, I think

976
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: part of the problem is in college, if you're a

977
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: fantastic defensive back prospect, how many NFL wide receivers are

978
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: you going up against a year? You know, maybe less

979
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: than half of your opponents have an NFL wide receiver

980
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: lined up against you. And depending on where you play

981
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: in college, like, are you practicing against him every year? Now,

982
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: at Alabama you would be At Georgia you probably would be.

983
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: But if I'm at like Washington or if I'm at Iowa, no,

984
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 1: not not guaranteed. I also, I also think defense even

985
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: more than offense. Now you could argue offense for running

986
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: backs and offensive lineman scheme specific So, if I'm a

987
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: fantastic athlete but I don't have great instincts, are they

988
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: putting me in a zone scheme where I have to

989
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: be an instinctive player in space and I don't get

990
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: to just man up and use my athleticism or vice versa.

991
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: Like Richard Sherman did not have elite speed, but he

992
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: had fantastic instincts and fantastic length, so you put him

993
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: in a zone situation, he could take advantage of it, right.

994
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 1: And then there are certain guys like if you watch

995
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: the dude from the Broncos, Patrick Sertant, he's fucking the

996
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: total package. He's basically Richard size, but with vous movement

997
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: he could play in any scheme. Most debs are not.

998
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: Most debs are very scheme dependent. So I think it's

999
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: it's probably the most scheme dependent position of them all,

1000
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: especially for corner right am I putting you in a

1001
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: man situation in your zone corner and vice versa, and

1002
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: that happens a lot. It is very I always struggle

1003
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: with the evaluation of of college dbs. Safety is very

1004
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 1: difficult because they're just You're You're evaluating a lot of

1005
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: intangible stuff, starting with instincts. I think instincts is a

1006
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: defensive back are extremely important, where like I can see

1007
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: instincts and running back right in college, if you're getting

1008
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: ten fifteen carries a game, like you're just getting the

1009
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: ball so much, I'm gonna be able to see how

1010
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: natural of a runner you are as a dB. If

1011
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: you're a great college dB, what if they never throw

1012
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: your away? So it's like I I can just it's

1013
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: harder to tell. That's why I think you've seen a

1014
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: lot of guys miss of that position. Though. One thing

1015
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: I would say about the top guys drafted the last

1016
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: several years, Sauce Gardner looks sweet. Certain looks sweet. Horns

1017
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: Kid looks sweet. A lot of the top corners the

1018
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: last several years look like they're plug in place stars.

1019
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: And then I think as the draft goes, it's very

1020
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: hit or miss. You know who. Funga is becoming one

1021
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: of the best safeties in the league. Most people thought

1022
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: he could not play in space. Well, the diners don't

1023
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: really ask him to play in space. They leave him

1024
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: up near the line of scrimmage, so he doesn't really

1025
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: get exposed trying to cover a bunch of ground. He

1026
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: gets to just tackle. He gets to play the run,

1027
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: and then he kind of just gets to pick his

1028
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: spots in the passing game. They're not asking him to

1029
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: like man up tight ends. He just gets to hit people.

1030
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: And I think that's so big for anything in life.

1031
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 1: Do I put you in the right position to succeed

1032
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: and at dB more than like a linebacker for the

1033
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: most part, If you can tackle you're gonna make tackles, right.

1034
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: I mean, some schemes I would say impact certain players,

1035
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: but like you could put Fred Warner, Bobby Wagner, Clue Keiklee,

1036
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: put the top linebackers and any fucking scheme and they're

1037
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: gonna dominate. Willis Bowman, you know, ray Lewis he just

1038
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: or Lacker. It doesn't really matter. But some guys you know,

1039
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: are gonna be better suited for certain schemes. But dbs,

1040
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: especially corners, very very scheme dependent. Appreciate everyone firing in

1041
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: those d m s. Hope you guys have a good

1042
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Speaker 1: week and I will talk to everyone soon. Audios. The

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Speaker 1: volume