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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Klay Thompson's achilles injury. You know, we talked

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Speaker 1: about this yesterday when we started the show. I didn't

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Speaker 1: care about the draft, I you know, I just kept

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Speaker 1: thinking about Klay Thompson and I was really looking forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing what this team could do. The fact that

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Speaker 1: you would have Steph Clay, you'd have Draymond, James, Wiseman

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Speaker 1: in there, Wiggins in there as well, the mastery of

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Speaker 1: Steve Kerr. You know, the West is great. It'll be

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun, competitive, but I just look forward

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Speaker 1: to see in that style of basketball, and we're not

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Speaker 1: going to see it, at least not in its original

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Speaker 1: art form. There. It's a blow to NBA fans who

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Speaker 1: wanted to see what the Warriors would look like this

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Speaker 1: year and last year was a washout because the injuries

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Speaker 1: and the last time we saw the real Warriors. You

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Speaker 1: have to go back to the finals against Toronto. That

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Speaker 1: team featured Steph and Kevin, Duran and Clay, and I

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Speaker 1: thought it was going to be really interesting to see

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Speaker 1: them go back to the duo instead of the triumvirate.

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Speaker 1: And remember, Golden State won a title and set the

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Speaker 1: single season win record before KD got there, and they

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Speaker 1: seem to be making the kind of moves that would

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Speaker 1: help Curry and Thompson get back to that level. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: Clay will fully recover underrated superstar, and that's based off

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Speaker 1: a low key personality, great two way player, one of

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Speaker 1: the great shooters of all time, and the Warriors will

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Speaker 1: certainly miss him this year. They're not tanking this year.

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Speaker 1: Too much talent to tank. You can't have a healthy

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry and say hey, we're going to tank this year.

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Speaker 1: I know that people brought that up yesterday. I don't

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Speaker 1: see that happening. James Wiseman will contribute, Draymond Green is

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Speaker 1: still a good player. You know, they'll be competitive, but

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Speaker 1: they're not going to be one of the teams to

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Speaker 1: beat in the West this year. And I started to

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Speaker 1: canvas the West here. I don't know what's happening with

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Speaker 1: the Rockets. You know, the Clippers, you know, they hopefully

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Speaker 1: have learned from what happened in the bubble. The Lakers

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Speaker 1: are going to be the team to beat Portland healthy.

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Speaker 1: A Portland team that's healthy will be dangerous. Phoenix is

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Speaker 1: going to be dangerous. I think you might have more

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Speaker 1: teams that are dangerous in the West than teams that

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Speaker 1: can win the West. Denver to me will border on

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Speaker 1: being the team to beat in the West. But they're

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Speaker 1: going to be a dangerous team again. But you have

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Speaker 1: to look at that regular season and just attrition where

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Speaker 1: you're just trying to keep pace and what is your

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Speaker 1: seating going to be when you get to the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: And then you start to look at the East. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the East is going to be really competitive as well.

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Speaker 1: We have Miami. We know what Miami is. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they make any moves. Free agency starts today.

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Speaker 1: Boston Celtics are going to lose Gordon Hayward. And when

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Speaker 1: I saw the headline, Gordon Hayward opts out of thirty

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Speaker 1: four million dollars with the Celtics, and I thought, Okay,

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Speaker 1: he must know something because thirty four million dollars Gordon Hayward.

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Speaker 1: I was really surprised at that because and you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe he's going to the Hawks, maybe he's going to

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Speaker 1: the Knicks. Maybe he wants to sort of re establish

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Speaker 1: himself as the best player on his team. Now that's

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Speaker 1: not going to happen with the Hawks. It might happen

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Speaker 1: with the Knicks, but you're making thirty four million dollars

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Speaker 1: and you decided, Okay, I don't want thirty four million.

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Speaker 1: I think he's got something that's going to be a

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Speaker 1: little bit more longer term, maybe not as much money

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Speaker 1: up front. You know, he's seventeen points a game, came

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Speaker 1: back from the devastating injury, and he's a good player.

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Speaker 1: He's not a great player. He's a good player. He's

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Speaker 1: not a franchise player. And he must know the Knicks

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Speaker 1: are willing to give him a four or five year

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Speaker 1: deal for X number of dollars. Maybe Boston wasn't going

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Speaker 1: to be willing to give that to him. And he

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Speaker 1: started to look at and look around and go, you

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Speaker 1: know what they're building around Kemba and Jaylen Brown and

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Speaker 1: of course Jason Tatum, and maybe I don't fit into

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Speaker 1: the picture here. Celtics have always talked about a trade.

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Speaker 1: They always talk about trades. They don't always pull off

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Speaker 1: a trade. And I saw a report where the Celtics

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Speaker 1: were saying that they looked at James hardened, but then

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Speaker 1: they were scared off by a Western Conference source. That's

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Speaker 1: not the best move for the Celtics, so there's some

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Speaker 1: bad feelings about bringing in somebody like James Harden. James

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Speaker 1: Harden with the Celtics, I don't get it. But what's

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Speaker 1: going on with the seventy six Ers. I love what

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Speaker 1: they did with their roster. I don't know if they're

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Speaker 1: preparing their roster to make a trade. The feeling I

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Speaker 1: some pieces and then you're going to be able to

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Speaker 1: make a move, or they're bringing in these pieces to

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Speaker 1: make a move. I'm not quite sure. But what Darryl

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Speaker 1: Moorey has already done. He earned Executive of the Year

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Speaker 1: with getting rid of contracts, bringing in some shooters here,

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Speaker 1: brought in Doc Rivers as well. So Philadelphia is gonna

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Speaker 1: write it right now with Ben Simmons and Joe l

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Speaker 1: and be Toronto. If they resigned Fred VanVleet, they're going

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Speaker 1: teams obviously with Milwaukee. Is Milwaukee gonna do anything more?

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Speaker 1: They lost Bogdanovich. Are they going to try to supplement

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Speaker 1: that with somebody else? There's a whole lot of movement

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Speaker 1: going on with the NBA and it's great to see.

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Speaker 1: It's fun. All right, Moll mcluven, You got a pull

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Speaker 1: question for me today. Do you think Steph Curry will

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Speaker 1: ever win another NBA title? Are they going to be

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Speaker 1: able to put this together? I'd have to know how

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Speaker 1: Klay Thompson is after Achilles, because it's one thing to

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Speaker 1: come back from knee surgery Achilles, that's tricky, and he's

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Speaker 1: going to be moving. He's going to be moving in

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Speaker 1: six months where he's able to, you know, do something

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Speaker 1: with that, just to get back into some kind of

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Speaker 1: basketball mode there. He's going to be out for two

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Speaker 1: years and then to try to come back. And I

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Speaker 1: was wondering about this. Klay Thompson averaged twenty points in

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Speaker 1: each of his last five seasons. Can he get back

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Speaker 1: to just that? Only one players nineteen seventy six average

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Speaker 1: twenty points after missing twenty two seasons in a row.

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Speaker 1: That was Michael Jordan. But Jordan was coming out of retirement.

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Speaker 1: He was not coming back from an injury. Clay's coming

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Speaker 1: back from an injury. I thought Bernard King may have

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Speaker 1: came back in average like twenty five a game but

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Speaker 1: Clay to come back and average twenty and coming back

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Speaker 1: from Achilles and missing two years, I would say Steph

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Speaker 1: Curry is probably not going to win another championship because

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Speaker 1: Draymond Greene. His value is going to be quickly evaporating

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Speaker 1: here in the next two years. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: great James Wiseman's going to be. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Wiggins is there for the long haul, but I would

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Speaker 1: say odds are right now probably not. Yeah, Paul Dan,

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right about Bernard King. In the eighty four

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Speaker 1: eighty five season with the Knicks, Bernard King, for those

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Speaker 1: who don't remember him, he evers thirty three points a game,

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Speaker 1: leading the NBA. Then they drafted Patrick Ewing. You know

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Speaker 1: after the next season when Bernard King got hurt the

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Speaker 1: eighty five eighty six season, didn't play at all for

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Speaker 1: the knee injury. He played four games due to the the

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Speaker 1: knee injury the following season, so he missed two years

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Speaker 1: of NBA basketball, and they got Patrick Ewing during his injury.

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Speaker 1: He went on an average when he came back seventeen

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Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty two, and then twenty eight points per game.

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Speaker 1: That's a guy who came back from injury to kind

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Speaker 1: of reclaim himself. Mcluvan would kind of pull questions, Okay,

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Speaker 1: one more Steph Curry point, and I have to credit

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Speaker 1: Chant and Sharper on Twitter with this. He said the

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Speaker 1: Warriors should trade Steph to the Lakers right now? Imagine

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Speaker 1: or something like that happened? Sort of? Would he ever

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Speaker 1: title Chase enjoying a lebron or anything like? Wait? Wait?

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Speaker 1: I think he was being maybe a little bit of joking,

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Speaker 1: but he put up a picture of Steph Lebron in

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Speaker 1: a d Wait. Wait, but why why do we say

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Speaker 1: these things when we don't think about the team that's

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Speaker 1: trading somebody to the Lakers? Well, the Warriors would be rebuilding.

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Speaker 1: Would be the theory that they'd have to get a

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Speaker 1: bunch of assets and now it's time to rebuild. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Lakers is the best target for that.

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Speaker 1: But at some point did the Warriors tear it down

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Speaker 1: and start I can't imagine those Golden State fans who

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Speaker 1: spent that money and the owners who spent that money

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Speaker 1: on that arena, and you show up and you go, hey,

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Speaker 1: come on out, we're gonna watch Draymond Green and James Wiseman.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget Kelly Ubre. J Oh, yeah, that's right. They've

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Speaker 1: got Kelly Oubrey in the juniors. I guess he's serviceable

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Speaker 1: for that team. He's one of those guys that strikes

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Speaker 1: me as a seventeen point guy on a bad team,

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Speaker 1: and maybe he's a guy who'll be able to contribute

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Speaker 1: to them. But a little bit expectations should be tempered

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Speaker 1: a little bit with Kelly Oubre junior with Golden State.

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Speaker 1: Are you tempted at all to still pick Golden State

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Speaker 1: as a contender or as it just impossible? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: This is also the aspect of the mental part of this,

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Speaker 1: that you just lost Clay Thompson, and you've got to

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Speaker 1: factor that in as well, that this is just start

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Speaker 1: this season and you go without him. I think they'll

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Speaker 1: be dangerous, how about that. I think they'll be one

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Speaker 1: of those they might be a tough out in the

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Speaker 1: first round kind of thing. Maybe, But I don't. I

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Speaker 1: just I think it's pretty devastating. Lady's devastating that Steph

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Speaker 1: was going to have Clay Thompson. They were comfortable together,

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Speaker 1: but Draymond, Clay and Steph I still I was surprised

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Speaker 1: the favorites. And I went, now, this is before Clay

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Speaker 1: Wiggins is a serviceable player as well. You're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a little bit of depth there. But man, pretty tough,

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Speaker 1: Pretty tough. And you've had the most consecutive seasons averaging

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Speaker 1: three or more threes per game and shooting forty five

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Speaker 1: percent of all times. Steph has done at seven consecutive years.

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Speaker 1: Clay has done at five consecutive years. No other player

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Speaker 1: in NBA history has had two consecutive years of at

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Speaker 1: least three threes made in a game and shooting forty

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Speaker 1: five percent from the floor. You're really losing, you know,

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Speaker 1: your style of play, and I don't know how you

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Speaker 1: recreate that style to play. That's the big loss for

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Speaker 1: me with Golden State is who are they now? With

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Speaker 1: Clay and Steph? I knew who they were. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: not quite sure and they won't know either. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: guess what else do you have? In clubbing? Okay, NFL,

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Speaker 1: what are we talking about Monday morning? And here's an exercise.

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Speaker 1: If the Vegas odds proved to be true and the

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Speaker 1: favorites win, which game are we talking about? First? Monday Morning?

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Speaker 1: Browns beat the Eagles to improve to seven and three,

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Speaker 1: Saints win with Jamis, Patriots beat the Texans to improve

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Speaker 1: to five and five. The Vikings beat the Cowboys to

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Speaker 1: improve to five and five. Chiefs beat the Raiders. Is

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Speaker 1: that even the thing? Or and also the Dolphins could

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Speaker 1: win their fourth in a row. No, if the Raiders

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Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs, right, I'm only going in with the favorites. Oh,

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Speaker 1: no upsets? Like, who's the team that is vocal point

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Speaker 1: on Monday? Is it the Patriots? Maybe I'm gonna guess

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Speaker 1: it'll be the Browns because all these shows love to

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Speaker 1: go with the Browns and the Eagles. So you have

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Speaker 1: this a perfect combo platter. Hey, we can talk about

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Speaker 1: COVID list tomorrow and Sunday. I think most of those

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Speaker 1: guys should be able to play Sunday night. They just

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Speaker 1: haven't been able to practice all week, and the NFL

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Speaker 1: has decided that that is okay, that's acceptable for guys

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Speaker 1: to not practice but still planning games. Heck, it worked

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Speaker 1: for Roethlisberger last week for the Steelers. And there's just

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Speaker 1: there's no more bye weeek Stan, I mean, there's no

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Speaker 1: more opportunity. I think at some point, there's no doubt

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Speaker 1: in my mind the NFL went from hey, there's a

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Speaker 1: couple of guys that can't play, we should you know,

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Speaker 1: try to reschedule it to you know, what this is

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Speaker 1: just going to be part of it. This is part

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Speaker 1: of the competitive situation this year. Don't be a high

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Speaker 1: risk contact, don't do things that cause you to get COVID,

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Speaker 1: and we're just gonna roll with it. If you were

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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman on the Saints, would you rather have

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Speaker 1: Jameis Winston or Taysom Hill for this weekend's game? Oh?

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Speaker 1: You know, I haven't seen Taysom Hill play quarterback enough

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Speaker 1: to really be able to answer that. I guess i'd

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Speaker 1: probably rather have Jamis. I think that he'd probably be

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Speaker 1: able to get rid of the ball quicker, but I

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Speaker 1: don't know about that. I do know this, though, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. You know, the Saints gave Taysom

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Speaker 1: Hill a one year extension as a restricted free agent.

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Speaker 1: That's twenty one million dollars between last year and this year.

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Speaker 1: I kind of assumed the thought that that was because

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Speaker 1: they thought he had a great chance to be the

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Speaker 1: heir apparent to Drew Brees. But now this will be

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Speaker 1: the second year in a row that Drew Brees gets

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Speaker 1: hurt and they're putting in another quarterback instead of him.

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Speaker 1: I guess they value him that much as a gadget

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Speaker 1: guy and Also, because Jamie is only under contract for

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Speaker 1: one year, they wanted to make sure they had at

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Speaker 1: least some option one option under contract for twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: I guess I understand that he's Ross Tucker, former NFL

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman Ross Tucker Football podcast and an analyst for

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Speaker 1: Westwood One. Also on the call this Saturday at noon,

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Speaker 1: Georgia's Southern at West Point. All right, let me go

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Speaker 1: to the Thursday night game. What we saw with Seattle's

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Speaker 1: defense stood out more than anything else. Is this a

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Speaker 1: one off? Or is this what is this house? Seattle

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Speaker 1: is going to be trying to play the rest of

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Speaker 1: the season. You know what, They've actually been pretty decent

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Speaker 1: on defense. Three out of the last four games, with

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Speaker 1: the exception of that Buffalo Bills game, Seattle has played

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Speaker 1: better on the defensive side of the ball. We saw

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Speaker 1: Carlos Dunlap, who they got from the Bengals, was a

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Speaker 1: huge factor in the game last night. And I do

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Speaker 1: think it's funny. Greg Cosal from NFL Films nine, we're

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Speaker 1: debating this on the row Stucker podcast this morning. I

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Speaker 1: do think Greg, when they run the ball, Greg Dan,

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Speaker 1: when they run the ball a little bit and keep

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Speaker 1: the defense fresh on the sideline that it does help them,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think they realized that just trying to

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Speaker 1: have Russell Wilson be the hero and throw four or

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Speaker 1: five touchdown passes every week, it's really really hard to do.

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Speaker 1: So running the ball a little bit helps Russell and

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Speaker 1: it's not as many snaps for the defense, and that

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Speaker 1: the line was able to get after Kyler Murray a

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Speaker 1: lot better as a result. And Troy Aikman during the

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Speaker 1: game said, defenses aren't going to just sit back and

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Speaker 1: let Kyler Murray kind of dictate that maybe defenses are

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Speaker 1: going to start to go all out put a little

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Speaker 1: more pressure on him. And Seattle did that. They disrupted

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Speaker 1: his pocket a little bit more, and they sort of

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Speaker 1: dictated if he was going to run, when he was

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Speaker 1: going to run, and if he was going to throw.

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Speaker 1: It's easier said than done. But can you see that

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Speaker 1: as a blueprint moving forward with defenses with Kyler? Absolutely, Look,

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Speaker 1: if you just let him drop back and pass a

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Speaker 1: he's a really good passer, but be there will eventually

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Speaker 1: be a scene and he will find it. And he's

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Speaker 1: the quickest quarterback, one of the quickest NFL players I

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Speaker 1: have ever seen, he's gonna find it. I think the

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Speaker 1: philosophy a little bit is go get him before he

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Speaker 1: gets you. And really both he and the Cardinals. Boy,

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Speaker 1: they had some critical errors last night. I mean, think

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Speaker 1: about the end of the first half, right, he slides

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Speaker 1: a yard short of the first down on second and four.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise they would have kept the ball. They probably would

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Speaker 1: have gotten the fuel goal in the half. Then third down,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't give it to Kenyan Drake, they have to

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Speaker 1: punt and the Seahawks get a fuel goal in the

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Speaker 1: first half. Then late in the game, he has that

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Speaker 1: critical intentional grounding. The next play is a holding penalty

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Speaker 1: in the end zone for a safety by Sweezy. That

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Speaker 1: was five points. That really came down to what I

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Speaker 1: would consider mental errors by Kyler Murray. Why is the

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Speaker 1: sports media so obsessed with Carson Wentz. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: probably the wrong person to answer this because I live

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Speaker 1: outside of Philadelphia and I do Eagles TV and Eagles Radio.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, that's all I know. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: it was national. I know that's the way it is

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia for sure. I think, for whatever reason, he's

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Speaker 1: become a really polarizing player, you know, twenty seventeen, he

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Speaker 1: probably would have been the MVP of the league and

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Speaker 1: they might have won the Super Bowl with him, but

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Speaker 1: they didn't, so he doesn't get credit for that. And

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Speaker 1: it feels like he's kind of gotten a little bit

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Speaker 1: worse each year, and this year certainly he has struggled

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Speaker 1: so now and then the Eagles drafted Jalen Hurts, which

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Speaker 1: adds an intrigue to the situation. So there are people,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a really interesting thing. Then I know

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Speaker 1: you know this, right, but it's hard to get people

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Speaker 1: to come off their original take or their original opinion

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Speaker 1: of someone. And so many people went in on the

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz top five quarterback Carson Wentz MVP, that they're

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Speaker 1: gonna fight, that they're gonna hold on to that as

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Speaker 1: long as they can, even though unfortunately for the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: he clearly has not been that guy this year. But

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Speaker 1: how much blame do we put on him? And it's

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts an upgrade if you put him in there now.

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Speaker 1: So I think that Wentz deserves a lot of blame

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Speaker 1: this year. And I'm a big fan of his personally

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Speaker 1: and professionally. They've had a lot of guys out. But

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Speaker 1: he's had so many turnovers this year, so many really

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Speaker 1: ugly surprising turnovers where he's trying to do too much.

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Speaker 1: But the thing that Dan is probably the scariest for

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Speaker 1: the Eagles and Eagles fans. You know, last Sunday, Giants,

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Speaker 1: Miles Sanders was back, Alshan Jeffrey was back, Lane Johnson

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Speaker 1: was back, and by the way, Carson Wentz didn't turn

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Speaker 1: it over. I mean, he didn't turn over. So there

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Speaker 1: was no sort of crutch or excuse for why the

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Speaker 1: Eagles lost. They just got beat. I mean, the Giants

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Speaker 1: were just better. The Giants are just the better team.

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Speaker 1: In that game, they won by ten, So all of

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Speaker 1: the sort of built in excuses about injuries or turnovers

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Speaker 1: they all went out the windows. So now Eagles fans

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Speaker 1: are kind of like, wait a minute, now, what now?

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Speaker 1: Are we just not good? I love the way the

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Speaker 1: Giants play. You know, they may not be a great team,

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Speaker 1: but they play hard and it feels like every week

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Speaker 1: they're they're getting better. I don't know if they steal

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Speaker 1: this division, but nothing would surprise me in the NFC East.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think the Eagles are a good team

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Speaker 1: right now. I don't think they're well coached right now.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys are a mess right now, Washington's a mess.

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Speaker 1: And here are the Giants without sae Quon Barkley, and

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Speaker 1: they might be the best team in the division the

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Speaker 1: second half of the season. I agree. They certainly were

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. You know, they lost so many close games

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Speaker 1: they've been Joe Judge has them in every game. They

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Speaker 1: easily could have five or six wins right now. When

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Speaker 1: you think about all the Cowboys game and the Bucks game,

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Speaker 1: I mean all these close losses. Joe Judged in a

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Speaker 1: nice job with that team. The defense is much improved.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones two games in a row without turning it

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Speaker 1: over right now, I think they are the best team

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Speaker 1: in the NFC's the only thing I would say, and

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Speaker 1: I've been saying this all week, is this is exactly

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Speaker 1: when the Eagles win. I mean years in a row,

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, Just when, just when all the

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Speaker 1: Eagles fans are like, I'm done with them, I'm not

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Speaker 1: watching anymore, the season's over, they somehow win when you

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Speaker 1: least suspect it and figure out a way to win

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Speaker 1: the division, can go to the playoffs and maybe even

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Speaker 1: make a run. So we'll see a big game against

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Speaker 1: Cleveland on Sunday. Great to talk to you, Ross, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy a West Point Army against Georgia's Southern coming up

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Speaker 1: at noon Eastern known CBS Sports Network. Thank you, buddy,

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Speaker 1: My pleasure always. That's Ross Tucker, former NFL offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: and the Ross Tucker Football Podcast where you can learn

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Speaker 1: something Westwood one NFL analyst. Be sure to catch the

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Speaker 1: live edition of The Patrick's Show weekdays at nine am Eastern,

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Speaker 1: six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. In the iHeart

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Speaker 1: Radio wapp I mentioned a couple of basketball things at

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Speaker 1: the end of the hour, I wanted to get Frank

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Speaker 1: Asolo on, who covers the NBA. You can see him

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Speaker 1: on around the Horn. Pardon the interruption, And of course

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Speaker 1: he has his serious XM NBA radio show called The

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Speaker 1: Starting Lineup Monday through Friday seven am to ten am. Frank,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us on short notice. This Gordon Hayward

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Speaker 1: situation where he just turned down thirty four million dollars

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Speaker 1: from Boston. What is the plan that Gordon Hayward has?

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Speaker 1: Where's he headed? First of all, good to see it, Daniel,

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Speaker 1: look great, you know clearly he's not part of their plans,

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Speaker 1: which doesn't mean that he still might not come back

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Speaker 1: to them for just one year. But there's no way

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Speaker 1: that Gordon Hayward is opting out of thirty four million

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Speaker 1: a year unless he believes he can get a good

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Speaker 1: deal someplace else. So could that be the Knicks, Could

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Speaker 1: it be the Atlanta Hawks. Is he looking at perhaps

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Speaker 1: a four year deal worth between eighty and one hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollars. It's hard to believe because if you look

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Speaker 1: at the last three years, he's only played in one

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Speaker 1: hundred twenty five games. The first year was one game.

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Speaker 1: The next year I think it was about seventy plus games,

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Speaker 1: but he was mostly a backup and that was that

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Speaker 1: first year back from injury. This year was fifty two

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Speaker 1: and he didn't play that well, and he wasn't really

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Speaker 1: good in the playoffs. But it only takes one team,

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Speaker 1: and a team like the Knicks Atlanta Hawks, they're looking

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Speaker 1: to make big moves, So it looks like Gordon Haywood

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Speaker 1: will likely be on the move. I think what the

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Speaker 1: Lakers are hoping, I'm sorry, what the Celtics are hoping

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Speaker 1: is that he will agree to a sign in trade,

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Speaker 1: so maybe they can get something back for him. But

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Speaker 1: see why are the Knicks doing this? And then they're

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Speaker 1: gonna bring back Carmelot. It just felt like you got

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Speaker 1: Obi Toppin, who's a wonderful kid. I don't like RJ.

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Speaker 1: Barrett's good. Like, can they just be complacent patient here

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Speaker 1: for a little while and not go for the guy?

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Speaker 1: But it's a big ticket item who's coming off injuries

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Speaker 1: or at the end of his career. Well, I would

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Speaker 1: say I think that Tom Thibodeau wants to win now.

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Speaker 1: When I mean win now, I think he wants to

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Speaker 1: be a playoff team. And the only thing I would

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Speaker 1: say about that look at the move. Now, it's a

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Speaker 1: different player. But if you look at the move that

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Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns made, they haven't made the playoffs for

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Speaker 1: ten straight years, and Chris Paul has been in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs for ten straight years, and a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: everyone would have said that's the last guy you want

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Speaker 1: on your team because of that contract. Look what he

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Speaker 1: did to Oklahoma City last year, a team that a

639
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: lot of people thought wouldn't be a playoff team. So

640
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: everyone's value on that team increased because Chris Paul was

641
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: including Dennis Shrewder, who just got traded to the Lakers.

642
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Speaker 1: So I think if you're the Knicks, there comes a

643
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Speaker 1: point Dan where you just can't be young all the time.

644
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: It's about being good. It's about getting better. I say

645
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: it all the time. If you want to be young

646
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: and athletic, just draft a track team from a college,

647
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: you know, get a bunch of twenty year rolls and

648
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: run up and down. That's not what it's about. Sacramento

649
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 1: has not made the playoffs for fourteen straight years. They're young,

650
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: and I think the Phoenix Suns are in the same

651
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: boat where they figured we have to make a move.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I think, if you're the Knick, why

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Speaker 1: not get a couple of veteran players try to make

654
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: the play if you need to change the perception of

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Speaker 1: the organization, because the perception of the organization is you're

656
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Speaker 1: dysfunctional and you're never good enough. But if I look

657
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: at the Celtics situation, like, ay, is there another move

658
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: there for Danny Ane and the Celtics are they they

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Speaker 1: go in status quo? I think they're you know, if

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Speaker 1: they end up losing Gordon Hayward for nothing, it's it's

661
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: definitely a setback. Now he wasn't the player that they

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Speaker 1: thought they were getting. The injury obviously had a lot

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Speaker 1: to do with that, and they're in a tough situation

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Speaker 1: as well with Kemba Walker, who all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: all that wear and tear on the knee is catching

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Speaker 1: up to them and he struggled in the bubble as well.

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Speaker 1: So this would be a major setback for the Celtics

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Speaker 1: in a year where you know, look at the moves

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Speaker 1: that Darrel Moorey is already making that could they make

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Speaker 1: a play for James Harden. You know, the Nets are

671
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Speaker 1: going to be better Toronto. That's situations in flux. But

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Speaker 1: if they run it back with everybody, they'll still be

673
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Speaker 1: a tough team. The Atlantic Division is very good and

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Speaker 1: it looks like the Knicks are getting better as well.

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00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: So Boston will be to me, if Boston doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a player similar to Gordon Hayward, a talented scoring type

677
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: of forward, they're going to take a step back. And

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Speaker 1: this was a team that was a conference finalist last

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Speaker 1: year or a couple of months ago. If you ran

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Speaker 1: the Rockets, what would you do with James Harden to me.

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00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: It's frustrating. And this is why, you know, we talk

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Speaker 1: all the time about player empowerment, and players love it,

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Speaker 1: the Union loves it, fans seem to like it. People

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Speaker 1: in the media love it all right. So player empowerment

685
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: works when it's lebron. So he goes to Miami and

686
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: he throws his weight around and he brings players there.

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Speaker 1: They win a title. He does it in Cleveland, he

688
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: does it in La He wins a title. Kawhi was

689
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Speaker 1: all about player empowerment. He went out to La and

690
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: he said, you need to get Paul Georgia, then I'll come.

691
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Speaker 1: So they move Heaven and Earth trade all these assets

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Speaker 1: to get Paul George and what happens. They don't play well.

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Speaker 1: They don't even get out of the second round, and

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Speaker 1: Doc Rivers loses his job. So player empowerment is great

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00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: for a player because you're never held accountable. So James

696
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: Harden did the same thing. He didn't want Chris Paul

697
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: on the team anymore. They trade all these assets, so

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00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City will take that contract. And now James Harden

699
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Speaker 1: wakes up one date, doesn't want to play for the

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Speaker 1: Rockets anymore. To me, if I'm the Rockets. If I

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Speaker 1: can get Ben Simmons, I'm getting seven years younger. He's

702
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Speaker 1: been an All Star before in the league. To me,

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00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: that makes sense. I cannot trade him to the Brooklyn Nets.

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Speaker 1: And I like Spencer Dinwoodie and Carras Sivert and Jared

705
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: Allen terrific role players. But you're going to be a

706
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Speaker 1: lottery team in the Western Conference. And when you're a

707
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: lottery team, your pick belongs to Oklahoma City. So Sam

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00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: Presty is rooting for the Houston Rockets to trade James

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00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: Harden to the Brooklyn Nets because Oklahoma City will end

710
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: up with those picks. Yeah, it is amazing though that

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Speaker 1: he said, Hey, I don't want to play with Chris Paul,

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Speaker 1: I want Russell Westbrook. And then all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: he wakes up and he goes, no, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to do this anymore. And if I'm the Rockets, I'm

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Speaker 1: not in any hurry to trade Nope, James Harden. I

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Speaker 1: want two teams to be involved. And I wonder about this, Frank,

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Speaker 1: I still think if you said I'm going to get

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Speaker 1: James Harden, I'd rather have James Harden with Ben Simmons

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Speaker 1: than I would Joe l Embiid, because I don't think

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Speaker 1: Joe l. Embiad's gonna go Hey, let me just stand

721
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: around and watch him jack up thirty shots a game.

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00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: He wants to be a star, thinks he's a star.

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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons, to me, would be more of an accompaniment,

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Speaker 1: a compliment to James Harden is a player than Joe

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Speaker 1: Well Embiad. Would I happen to agree with you. It's funny.

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Speaker 1: Just a little while ago, I looked it up on

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Speaker 1: Embiid and he's been in the league six years. He's

728
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Speaker 1: played in two hundred and nine regular season games. Lebron

729
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: has played in two hundred and sixty playoff games in

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Speaker 1: his career. And that's the thing. And Bead is a

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Speaker 1: terrific player, But the way the NBA is going kind

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Speaker 1: of going away from the big man, and to me,

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Speaker 1: he's not available enough. And the one thing about Harden,

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Speaker 1: people could beat him up all they want, you know,

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Speaker 1: some of the playoff moments that he's had where he

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Speaker 1: checked out in that one game against San Antonio. Hasn't

737
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Speaker 1: played well the last couple of years they had Golden

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00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: State on the ropes. He didn't play well during the

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00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: regular season. The guy plays, He's like he's the throwback.

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00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: He lives hard, he goes out all the time. But

741
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Speaker 1: guess what, he shows up and he plays and he's productive.

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00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 1: And Ben Simmons is six foot ten, could handle the ball.

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Speaker 1: Whenever people ask you to, you know, decide between the

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Speaker 1: two of them, I'm with you. I always say Ben

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00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: Simmons just because for me, the skill, the athleticism, and

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00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: to me, he's only going to get better. Just worry

747
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: about him bed with that foot injury that he's had.

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Speaker 1: He's Frank ein Sol who was zoned around the horn

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Speaker 1: and parton the interruption and he has a show on

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00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 1: Sirius XMNBA Radio. The Starting Lineup Moddy through Friday, seven

751
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: am to ten am. Lakers make any moves here in

752
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: free agency, well, you know, Jerry and Grant is a

753
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: player that they'd love to have, an athletic wing player.

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00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: I don't believe that they can get him, but I

755
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: think they made a really good move getting Dennis Shrewd

756
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: and now Rondo brought great leadership to that team last year,

757
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: played very well, especially in the playoffs. But I think

758
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: what's going to happen with the Lakers, they'll always be

759
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: those players late in the season, whether or not they

760
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: get bought out or guys that they'll sign for minimum deals.

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00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: Lebron is still at the top of his game, and

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00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: we'll see how they manage his games and his minutes

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00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: during the season. But do you think Rondo's gone? I

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Speaker 1: do think he's got. I had heard that Atlanta's going

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Speaker 1: to offer from two years fifteen million, but his preference,

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00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: believe it or not, is to play for the Clippers.

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00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: I don't know why that is, as you have a

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00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: relationship with Tylu that could be part of it. So

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Speaker 1: I think the Clippers are definitely in on him. So

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Speaker 1: if Rondo were to leave, I think he would end

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00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: up with the Clippers. But Lebron is still so good

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Speaker 1: and Anthony Davis is like the perfect second player because

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Speaker 1: I think Anthony Davis is fine with Lebron still being

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Speaker 1: the guy. And there were times where you could tell

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00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: Lebron was carrying Anthony Davis. You know, Davis gets hurt

776
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: a lot, he leaves games, he ends up coming back in.

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Speaker 1: But I think Anthony Davis, even the way we perceive

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Speaker 1: him now, his change because he played with Lebron and

779
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: won the title. Think about the guys that Lebron's won

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Speaker 1: the title with Chris Bosh, Kevin Love, Kyrie Irving, now

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis. He's done a lot for the careers of

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Speaker 1: those of those players. What kind of team is Golden

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Speaker 1: Steak going to be this year? I think they'll struggle

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Speaker 1: to make the playoffs just because the Western Conference is

785
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: so good and it stinks because we all love Clay Thompson.

786
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: He's a great guy, terrific player, unbelievable shooter. That Kelly

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00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 1: Ubrey move is interesting. So if they're going to trade

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00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: for him, and that fourteen million dollars is because of

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00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: luxury attack is basically eighty two million dollars you meet

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Speaker 1: to tell me, in today's NBA, with all the scouting

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00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: that we have. Every team has one hundred scouts and

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00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: they have all these development coaches, you can't find a

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00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: player somewhere in the G League that comes I get it.

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00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: You can't find someone that comes close to what Klay

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Speaker 1: Thompson does. You can't find someone that comes close to

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Speaker 1: doing what Kelly Yubrey does, which essentially isn't going to

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00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: cost you eighty two million dollars. Explain that, all right, Well,

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Speaker 1: he makes fourteen million, and because now they'll be over

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Speaker 1: the luxury tax, that really comes out to about, like

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00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: I said, sixty six million a luxury tax. He add

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00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: the two of them, it's eighty two million just to

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Speaker 1: add Kelly Ubrey to the team. And that's how much

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00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: he puts you over the luxury tax. That's what I

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00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: don't understand. You can't there's nobody that you can find

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00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: a cheaper alternative. Are they panicking a little bit? Kelly

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00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 1: Ubrey is a good player, but for eighty two million dollars,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that for one. Frank always great

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00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: to see you, Thanks for joining us, and happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: My best to all the PTI and around the Horn folks,

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00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: and thanks for joining us on short notice. Thanks Dan

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Speaker 1: Sank to your guys. That's Frank is solo and the

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00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: starting lineup Moddy through Friday seven am to ten am

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00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: on Sirius XM NBA Radio. Thanks for listening to The

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00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live

815
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine

816
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,600
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00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live

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Speaker 1: on the peacock. App Let's bring in Daniel Jeremiah. He's

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Speaker 1: a former scout with the Ravens, Browns Eagles. He's a

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Speaker 1: NFL network analyst. He was working the game last night

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Speaker 1: that we'll get to. Let me start with what you

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Speaker 1: thought of Taysom Hill when he came out of college. Sure, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was First of all, I felt like

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Speaker 1: I evaluated him nine years in a row. Because every

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Speaker 1: year you go to BYU and looking at me like, hey,

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Speaker 1: they got this kid, Taysom Hill. It'll be his last

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Speaker 1: year and he get hurt, and he come back for

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Speaker 1: an other year, and another year and another year. So

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Speaker 1: but the evaluation was, honestly, was he was a faster

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Speaker 1: Scott Frost, which was remember Scott coming out he made

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Speaker 1: the transition to safety, and the thought was, this guy's

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Speaker 1: a tremendous athlete. I just don't. I mean, he just

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00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: runs around back there for the most part. So you know,

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Speaker 1: we can use him in a variety of roles special teams.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you can develop him into a safety. But I,

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Speaker 1: for one, did not view him as a future NFL

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback. And I don't know anybody that was scouting

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Speaker 1: him that did at that time. Why is Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: all in on Taysom Hill. I think he's had a

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00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: certain playbook that he's been limited to with Drew, and

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00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: I think he's been curious to see how he could

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Speaker 1: expand it and the creativity he could bring to Sean

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Speaker 1: to kind of invigorate him a little bit. So I

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Speaker 1: think that's been something that's an itch he's wanted to scratch,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I was curious. I was anxious

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Speaker 1: to see if they would give him this opportunity because

847
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: I was beginning to think that Taysom Hill was going

848
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: to have a lifetime in the sidecar and never get

849
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: to be in the motorcycle. He always going to be

850
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: the other quarterback along with your starter instead of being

851
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: the starter. And now you're getting a chance to see,

852
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: let's see what he can do with with an entire

853
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 1: gamer or two here. But he's thirty. Can you teach

854
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: somebody to play the position at thirty? He's a young thirty, Dan,

855
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: he's a young thirty. He's gone now, he's got a

856
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: lot of mileage. He's an old thirty. I think no,

857
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I don't know, we're gonna find out

858
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: there's nothing to compare this too. We don't really have

859
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: anything in history to go back to compare it to.

860
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: I just know um Man he is. He is. He's

861
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: dynamic with the ball in his hands when he takes

862
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: off and runs. My question is doing that on a

863
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: part time basis he's been able to stay healthy. Can

864
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: he stay healthy doing that on a full time basis? Okay,

865
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: if you can have Tebow or Taysom Hill. Tebo I

866
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: think ran high four six is low four sevens. Taysom

867
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: Hill is a four four. I mean, like he's a

868
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: totally different level of athlete than Tim Tebow. Why is

869
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: Tebow not in the league. He's a he's a quarterback

870
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: to ken throat Dan That's that's not a great combination.

871
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: So that would be why Other than that, that was

872
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: the play Missus Lincoln. But but okay, this felt like

873
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: this was common knowledge, but people were still Denver takes

874
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: him first round. Josh McDaniels takes him first round. Yeah,

875
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: I mean, but you can talk yourself into Tebo as

876
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: a passer in college. I mean, even though you know

877
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: there was issues with his delivery, there was issues with

878
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: the you know, when you just watched him mechanically But

879
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: if you want to look at the stats and the numbers,

880
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: you say, okay, well he played in the SEC. You know,

881
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: completion percentage, yards, wins, all that stuff all piled up,

882
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: and you can say, hey, he made that skill set

883
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: work in the best conference in college football. Maybe we

884
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: can get him to make it work in the NFL.

885
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: So I can see how they kind of talked themselves

886
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: into that. Yeah, it's it's still baffling because Tebow's what's

887
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: thirty two now? But if you said to Tebo, hey,

888
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: we're going to make you a tight end like Tibo

889
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: would still be in the league, wouldn't he? I don't know.

890
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: I don't know A few was that type of an athlete.

891
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: I feel like the Jets and the Patriots kind of

892
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: wanted to get him worked into some of those areas

893
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: and it just didn't. It didn't really happen. So I

894
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I think that was kind of the easy

895
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: thing to say for all those years, like if you

896
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: had just played fullback or tight end each back, that

897
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: he'd be still going. And I don't think that. I

898
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: don't think that's necessarily the case. What have you seen

899
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray that's different than how you viewed him

900
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: when he was coming out of college. Well, I mean

901
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: I was, I kind of was. He was an acquired

902
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: taste for me in college, and I just got to

903
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: the point where I was like, I cannot deny how

904
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: good this guy has been. You know, even you know,

905
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: you look at some of the size issues, limitations of

906
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: the limited playtime, whatever you want to look at negatively,

907
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: But did you have more questions about Kyler or Baker Mayfield.

908
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: I thought Kyler was a much better player than Baker Mayfield.

909
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: So Kyler I had a higher grade on coming out.

910
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: So but he's been you know, I was. I got

911
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: to the point where by draft day I was excited

912
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: about what he could do and he still exceeded that.

913
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: Somebody was asking me the other day for you know,

914
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: the comparison for Kyler Murray. I'm like, there's not really

915
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: an easy comparison. I guess the only thing I could

916
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: say would be, you know, if you left Patrick Mahomes

917
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 1: in the dryer for too long and strapped a jet

918
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: pack to his back, that's kind of the way Kyler

919
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: Murray plays. I mean, he's just a little little miniature

920
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: version of Patrick Mahomes with a little more juice. But

921
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: I wonder what we saw with Seattle last night and

922
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: you were doing the game, Seattle seemed to have a

923
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: little bit more of an aggressive approach, and that is,

924
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 1: we want to dictate what you're going to do before

925
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 1: you dictate what we're going to do. Is that the blueprint?

926
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: Do you think? Well, they did a good job with

927
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: his own read, and so what they did is they

928
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: just said you're gonna have to give the ball because

929
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: we're gon we're gonna count for the quarterback on every

930
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 1: single zone read. So they kind of eliminated that portion

931
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: of what he can do with his athleticism. But Dan,

932
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: I thought when his shoulder, when he got crunched in

933
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: the first half, I don't think he really looked to run.

934
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: I don't think he looked to create. There were times

935
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: where they were rushing three on some third downs, and

936
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: usually when you rush three against a very athletic quarterback,

937
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: you're begging him to go take off and run and

938
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: get some of those free yards. And he never really

939
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: even looked at do it. So I'm going to kind

940
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: of put that game on a little bit on the

941
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: side there in terms of an evaluation of Kyler, because

942
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: I did not think he was. He was right there

943
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 1: with his shoulder and with Russell Wilson. Was it just size?

944
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: That's why he didn't go in the first or second round? Yeah,

945
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: I mean I can remember where I was sitting at

946
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl when the way ends happened, and a

947
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: lot of us had got to the point where we

948
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: were like, okay, we were hoping it was going to

949
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: be six feet tall, but we had convinced ourselves he's

950
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: gonna be five eleven and change, and you know, that's okay,

951
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: we'll get through that. And then they said five ten six,

952
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: and then we all kind of looked at each other.

953
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: We're like, oh, man, like you get in the draft

954
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: room selling five ten. It sounds silly, but selling five

955
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: ten it is a lot more difficult than selling five eleven.

956
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: At that time, it sounds stupid, but it's absolutely true,

957
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: because I can remember somebody in the room, high up

958
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: in the room where I was with the Eagles, just

959
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: saying who were the comparisons? Who were the five foot

960
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: ten quarterbacks? And you're like, well, you get Doug Flutie.

961
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's about it. But if if Russ

962
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: was coming out now, given Kyler's success. Where is Russell

963
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: first top five pick? Really? Oh yeah, because you would

964
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: sit in there and you would read your reports on

965
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson Dan and you would be like, where the

966
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: where are the negatives here? You know, he's got a

967
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: live arm, he's a great athlete, he's smart, he's tough, competitive,

968
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: he's been productive at a high level. You know, like

969
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: there was and even the size thing there wasn't really

970
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: you never watched the tape of Wisconsin and left the

971
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: game thinking, you know what, gosh, man, his size really

972
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: hurt him and that one it was really an issue.

973
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't, but it was just trying to get past

974
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: the you know, the history of not having one of

975
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: those to compare him to. That's that's what it was,

976
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: and that would have been gone. And I wonder. I've

977
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: said that Steph Curry will probably have a longer lasting

978
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: impact on the NBA skill wise than Michael Jordan, because

979
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,959
Speaker 1: we can't be Michael Jordan, but everybody feels like they

980
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: could be Steph Curry. I wonder if Russell Wilson's impact

981
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: on the NFL he is going to be. He opened

982
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: the door for every one these quarterbacks who were six

983
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: feet or under. I don't think it's just the NFL.

984
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: I think you can go to college into high school.

985
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: I think if you went into some of the you know,

986
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: big high schools in Texas or Florida, in California, and

987
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: you had a kid that went out there for tryouts

988
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: and was five nine, five ten and was infinitely better

989
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: than the six foot three, six foot four kid, those

990
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: big high schools wouldn't even give the smaller kid a

991
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: chance and say, no, no, that's that's that's not gonna work.

992
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna go with the bigger kid and we'll try

993
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: and develop him to see what he can be. And

994
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: we've seen that trickle all the way up. You know,

995
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray does. Does Kyler Murray? You know to see

996
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: at that huge high school at Allen, Texas, is he

997
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: even playing quarterback there at that time? If we don't

998
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: have some of the success of some of these smaller

999
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 1: guys much less now we're looking around the NC DOUBLEA.

1000
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: I think Alabama's got a freshman that they signed out

1001
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 1: of Modern Day High School and Bryce Young who's six

1002
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: foot or below. He'll be he'll be starting in Alabama

1003
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: here in a year for he'll run that program for

1004
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: three years. He's Daniel Jrmiah, NFL network analyston, former NFL scout.

1005
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: He does the Chargers games. By the way, how do

1006
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: you think the haircut with Justin Herbert is going to

1007
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: affect his performance here? Daniel, I haven't had anything negative

1008
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: to say about Justin all year long. He's been phenomenal.

1009
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: John Lott's a really good strength coach. But you know,

1010
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: you don't ask strength coaches to cut your hair. I mean,

1011
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: that's just there's simple rules you live by, Dan, and

1012
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: that's got to be one of them. So that's the

1013
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: first poor decision Justin's really made. Yeah, I agree. When

1014
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: do you start analyzing the college football players? I'm working

1015
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: through offensive lineman right now, so that's kind of I

1016
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: like to go position at a time, So right now

1017
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: that really kind of getting cranked into it and then

1018
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: looking at the offensive line. So it's kind of it's

1019
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: kind of apropos. Thanksgiving's coming up. It makes you really

1020
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: hungry when you watch a bunch of big guys. But

1021
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: but do you build up to the quarterback? What position

1022
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: is the final position? Yeah? Usually the quarterback I try

1023
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: and save towards the end, but there's sometimes you get

1024
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: into a lull where you're like, man, I gotta get

1025
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 1: some I gotta pick me up here. And the quarterbacks

1026
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: are my favorite thing to do. So once we once

1027
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: we get to that point where I'm need a little juice,

1028
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: then I'll start really diving in. Aside from the obvious,

1029
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: who are the quarterback candidates who might surprise us that

1030
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 1: they might be a Day one or maybe a Day two.

1031
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: But keep an eye on well, I mean by u

1032
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson is everybody in the league loves that kid.

1033
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: So there is uh, he's he's got a lot, a

1034
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: lot of But what is it that he has that

1035
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 1: what does he do better than Trevor Lawrence or Justin Field.

1036
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: I think it's just a creative playmaker. Um and I've

1037
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: seen I've I've looked at one game on him. So

1038
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 1: I've just looked at one game. He's got a live,

1039
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: loose arm. I think some of the things that that

1040
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: this is the Patrick Mahomes effect of being able to

1041
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: play you know, some doing some things outside the structure

1042
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: of the offense. He does those extremely well while you know,

1043
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: not being you know, overboard with it, not being a

1044
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: little reckless. He's just got some of that playmaking ability

1045
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 1: that's got a lot of people fired up and excited.

1046
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: Anybody else, I like what I'm seeing with trask Uh.

1047
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: He seems like a tough kid that he's going to

1048
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: take a hit, but he'll stay in there in the throw.

1049
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: But I always wonder about this, Daniel, and you know

1050
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: this better than me. I want to see what you

1051
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: do after an interception. I want to see what you

1052
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: do after you get sacked. Like in college, everybody's completing

1053
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: eighty percent of their passes. It feels like I want

1054
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: to see when something bad happens to you. How important

1055
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: is that because in the pros you're eventually going to

1056
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: get humbled. Yeah, I mean, look look at Joe Burrow.

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00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: I mean that was kind of his signature play from

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00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: the year before, right when he has the interception. He

1059
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: gets drilled and then comes back and plays lights out

1060
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: the rest of that game and then really never look

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00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: back the rest of his career. But the challenge, and

1062
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: Ozzie Newsom used to always say this in the Combine interviews,

1063
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: was he wanted to get to the adversity that these

1064
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: kids have faced, if not just on the field, but

1065
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: off the field, and what they've done to overcome that,

1066
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: because when you look at the bus and we kind

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00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,439
Speaker 1: of all know who those guys are. For the most part,

1068
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: dealing with adversity is the number one reason why these

1069
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: quarterbacks don't make it because they haven't had much. They

1070
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: haven't had much through high school or college, you know,

1071
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: talking on the field, and then when they faced that,

1072
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: how are you going to handle it? So trying to

1073
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: see that and trying to diagnose that not only on

1074
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: the field, but off the field as a key part

1075
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 1: of whether or not these guys are gonna make it.

1076
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 1: Is Trevor Lawrence gonna be rated higher than Joe Burrow.

1077
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: I think there's probably a good chance of that, and

1078
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: because of just the added dimension of what he can

1079
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: do as a runner. You know, he's pretty special on that.

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00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: Jill Burrow is pretty good at that too. Joe Burrow

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00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: is a good physical runner. Trevor Lawrence has got just

1082
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: more juice Joe Burrows. Joe Burrow is going to fight

1083
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: his way for fifteen yards and Trevor Lawrence ran away

1084
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: from Ohio State. So that's the that's a little difference there, boy.

1085
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: But to go to the Jets, I'm not as down

1086
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: on the Jets. Then let me give you let me

1087
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: let me give you my positivity for the Jets. Here.

1088
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: You probably just put a commercial while I'm talking. No no, no, no, no,

1089
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: you're mister positivity. I'm all ears here. So the going

1090
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: to the Jets is going to be a great thing

1091
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: for Trevor Lawrence because because I've studied them this week,

1092
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: because they play the Chargers. So the left tackle McKay Beckton,

1093
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: who we loved in the draft, is going to be

1094
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 1: the best left tackle in the NFL within the next

1095
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: two years. Denzel Mems who's played, who's been on the

1096
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: field for the last three or four weeks, look looks outstanding.

1097
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: He's going to be a really good number two wide receiver.

1098
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: So there's a couple pieces there you can work with.

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00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: On offense, They've got I think the second most cap

1100
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: space of any team in the league. They're going to

1101
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: have the first overall pick, they're gonna get Trevor. They're

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00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: going to have Seattle's pick, which is going to be

1103
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: somewhere in the twenties. They're gonna have the thirty third pick,

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00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: the first pick of the second round, and I believe

1105
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 1: they're going to trade if they have the first pick,

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00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: they'll trade Sam Donald and I firmly believe they'll get

1107
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: a one. So you're gonna have four the top thirty

1108
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: three picks to add in around him, a boatload of

1109
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: money and free agency to go out and get you know,

1110
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: the Bud Duprees or you know whoever else, Seccurrey, Sam,

1111
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: with any guys you want there in free agency. So

1112
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: I think you can turn around pretty quick. They need

1113
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: to get the right coach. I mean, in my opinion,

1114
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: they got to go find the right coach. But I

1115
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: think that actually is a chance to turn around. They're

1116
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: in with Jets. But if you're Eric b Enemy and

1117
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: I said, take your pick, I'm coaching Trevor Lawrence. If

1118
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm Eric, okay, all right. I don't want to go

1119
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: to Houston's much as I like to Shaun Watson. I

1120
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: think that organization is a mess. Well, the good news

1121
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: about Houston is that if you want an extra day off,

1122
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: you can take it. Unfortunately it's a day the first

1123
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: day they draft. Wow, but what about Atlanta? Would you

1124
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: be interested in coaching the Falcons? You know, I would

1125
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: be curious to see what their thought process is because

1126
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: I think you could go two ways. You could say

1127
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: we still have you know, with Julio, with Matt Ryan

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00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: and some of these key pieces at Ridley's a really

1129
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: good player, and would you keep Matt Ryan? I think

1130
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: you have to with salary cap for another year. So so,

1131
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: but are you going to try and maybe make a

1132
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: little run here with this group last time or is

1133
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: it a gut job and you're coming and they're trying

1134
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: to really you know, go to the ground floor and

1135
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: build it back up. That's something I think that any

1136
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: coach that goes on the interview is going to need

1137
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: to figure out. Yeah, it is pretty fascinating that B

1138
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: enemy can have I think, you know, when the Texans

1139
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: said that they might be or somebody reported they might

1140
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: just give it to Romeo Crenell for another year, I

1141
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: thought that that said a whole lot that they know

1142
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: they can't get Eric b enemy in Houston, so why

1143
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: not just have Romeo one more year. Can't be interviewing

1144
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: people due to COVID probably and it's an odd year,

1145
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: so why not turn it over or keep it with

1146
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: Romeo Cornell? Yeah? You know, and look, I do want

1147
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: to mention with Houston that you have Deshaun Watson. So

1148
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: even the fact you don't have draft picks, you've got

1149
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: some salary cap issues and roster issues. Man, there could

1150
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: be worse things than to get to coach him on

1151
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: a yearly basis. But I just think there's a little

1152
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 1: bit of a mess you got to kind of clean

1153
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: up there with some other areas. Who had the flower

1154
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: arrangement behind you? Who's this is an NFL network production

1155
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: back here? And the other thing is, Dan, do the

1156
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: bricks look real or fake to you? Fake? Yeah, wallpaper?

1157
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: I know we've I know fake because all I do

1158
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: is look over the other side of the glass and

1159
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: I see fakes. Oh you've got bricks. You've got bricks

1160
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: behind you? Is are those fakes? They are cut in half,

1161
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: They're they're not full bricks, they're surface bricks. Okay, I

1162
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: think the I think that the Oakland Coliseum has those.

1163
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: As you walk out into the field, those little you need.

1164
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: You need helmets in there, you need books in there.

1165
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: I know. But I feel like, you know, I thought

1166
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: about just kind of have some fun, like putting my

1167
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: son's Little League trophies back here. You know, Kurt's got

1168
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: his MVPs and his NFL managing year. What if I

1169
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: just put like a little little league trophy. Why don't

1170
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: you get your jersey? Didn't you play college football? Yeah,

1171
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: but I mean like this any I mean my Appalachian

1172
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: State jersey gonna give me a lot more credibility right

1173
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: behind me. Yes it will, Yes, it will. Yes, given

1174
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: what your display is back there, Yes it will. Daniel. Yes, Hey, great,

1175
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: I get a lot of compliments on these flowers. I'll

1176
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,439
Speaker 1: have you know, a lot of them. No, my wife

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00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: would like them. I mean I think that she would

1178
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: really like those. It's very nice. Great to talk to you.

1179
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: Thanks for getting up for the appearance here and great

1180
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: to talk to you. Thank you, Daniel. Thanks Dancy Bud.

1181
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: That's Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network analyst. And if you're watching

1182
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: on cock you can see how bad that kind of

1183
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: that background area was with Daniel. Wait did I just

1184
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: say that? Oh? I just did. NFL Network they were

1185
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: on the game last night. It's called These Scouts Feed

1186
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: broadcast the last night's game Cardinals Seahawks on Amazon Prime

1187
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: and Twitch, and you can follow Daniel Jeremiah at Move

1188
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: the Six. I always learned something with his own I

1189
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: think he's one of the best analysts we have in

1190
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: the NFL. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk

1191
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at

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00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: search f SR to listen live. He's Nick, right, first

1194
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: things first and all around good guy, and let me

1195
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: start with NBA news there for you, Nick, explain Gordon

1196
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: Haywards philosophy, game plan here of where's he going to

1197
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: end up? Well, wherever you can get one more contract

1198
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: would be my guests. And I don't blame him for

1199
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: this obvious what's happened in Boston. He's been totally snake bit.

1200
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: It started as terribly as something can start, getting injured

1201
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: in the first half of your first game. He's kind of,

1202
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: because of his level of play since then, been lowered

1203
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: on the rotation as far as level of importance. And

1204
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: I know people look at Gordon Hayward is opting out

1205
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: of thirty million dollars, Well, yeah, but he's probably opting

1206
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: into what will undoubtedly be less per year, but more total.

1207
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: I think you'll probably get three years sixty some million dollars,

1208
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: maybe maybe from a team like the Hawks that has

1209
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: money to burn and is trying to add some veteran leadership.

1210
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: I reported last week. I think they're targeting Rondo to

1211
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: try to help kind of guide along trade Young. So

1212
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: I think that's what happens there. And it's another if

1213
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: you ask me, I mean, Celtic fans need to understand

1214
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: they can't replace the asset they needed him to opt

1215
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: in and then trade him or do something. They don't

1216
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: have the money to replace the asset. And so Boston,

1217
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: it's really interesting, Dan Boston, you know, had the hijack

1218
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: with the nets. The nets are gonna tear it up,

1219
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: build it up, tear it down and build it back

1220
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: up before the Celtics make an NBA finals with that

1221
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: heist from them nearly a decade ago. Now, has this

1222
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: Celtics team underachieved? Oh? I think so. I don't know

1223
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,959
Speaker 1: if the team, let me rephrase, I think Danny Ames

1224
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: is underachieved. I don't know if you saw the latest,

1225
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: you know, report a former Boston Herald reporter, I for apologize.

1226
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: I don't have the name in front of me. We're

1227
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: tweeted yesterday Steve Bullpil, thank you see Bullpit. I you know,

1228
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: I assume he used to go on Sports Center with

1229
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: you back in the day he reported that, you know,

1230
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: they had interest in James Harden, but then they cooled

1231
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: on it because of you know, tertiary reasons, which makes

1232
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: James Harden the thirteenth consecutive big name free agent. Or

1233
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: for a possible player that Danny James thought about but

1234
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: decided this eleven year old in southern California who he

1235
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: holds the draft rights to in twenty twenty eight is

1236
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: just too good to give up. And so you didn't

1237
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: go and get Kawhi the team that did won the title.

1238
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: You didn't go and get Anthony Davis, the team that

1239
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: did won the title. And you're not even gonna attempt

1240
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: to get James Harden, and instead, the Nets, the Sixers,

1241
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: the Bucks all might be better than you. And that's

1242
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: just in the East next year. Yeah, I just wonder

1243
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: what the game plan is for the Celtics, because I

1244
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: do think Danny Ainge there's been moments of brilliance there

1245
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: and you have this young team. I don't know where

1246
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: Kemba is. I mean, I think Kemba feels he certainly

1247
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: looks spent. I love Tatum and Jaylen Brown, but I

1248
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: don't know, do you think they would really consider James

1249
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: Harden and Boston well, I think I don't think they will,

1250
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: and it's because they overvalue their own guys. Listen, Jason

1251
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: Tatum is an excellent player, an excellent player, but Celtic

1252
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: fans have decided he's going to win multiple mbps. He'll

1253
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: never win one, and so you don't have a guy

1254
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a top five guy in the league.

1255
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: You could have had Kawhi Leonard for Jaylen Brown, who

1256
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: is a poor man's version of Kawhi Leonard, and you're like, no,

1257
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: we can't do it. And you can say, oh, Anthony

1258
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: Davis wasn't going to resign, Okay, you could still try

1259
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: to go win the title. And you've made one big

1260
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: swing since you've had all these assets, and it was

1261
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: a swing in the miss. It was Kyrie and he

1262
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: couldn't wait. He said, I'm gonna stay there for everything,

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Speaker 1: couldn't wait to get out of there. So I just

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Speaker 1: feel like, you know, Boston calls itself titletown. The only

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Speaker 1: team that's not holding up its end of the bargain

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Speaker 1: is the Celtics. They've got one ring since the Berlin

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Speaker 1: Wall fell, and that's because Kevin McHale gift wrapped them

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Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett. So I just don't know when they're actually

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Speaker 1: gonna go for it. If you ran the Rockets, what

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Speaker 1: would you do? Try to convince them to buy me

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Speaker 1: out so I can go to a better situation, like

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Speaker 1: Daryl did. I mean talking about an all time moved.

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Speaker 1: I mean, hey, listen, you know I think I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take some time off, but why don't you give me

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Speaker 1: some money to leave? And oh, you're ten million a

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Speaker 1: year for a way better situation. Listen. I empathize with

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Speaker 1: Tilman for Tita that it during the pandemic. If there

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Speaker 1: were four businesses you didn't want to be involved in,

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Speaker 1: you'd probably say, all right, the hotel business, the luxury

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Speaker 1: hotel business. That's gonna be tough. Becausinos that would be tough,

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01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: high end restaurants be tough. In the NBA, how about

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Speaker 1: you own only those four things and all of those things.

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01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: So he's in a rough spot. I get that, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell they're doing. I don't

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Speaker 1: understand they bought a second round pick for four and

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Speaker 1: a half million dollars. That feels more like money laundering

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Speaker 1: than team building to me. I don't know what that is,

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Speaker 1: but I guess it's part of the trade they made

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Speaker 1: for the first round pick. So I think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to rip it down. But the problem is the

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Speaker 1: owner wanted them to get off to Chris Paul. Contracts

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Speaker 1: so bad keep I believe I've been told this, but

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Speaker 1: I believe with you know, good reason to believe he

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Speaker 1: was forced to trade James Harden. Trades James Harden, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: forced to trade Chris Paul for Russell Westbrook and you

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Speaker 1: give away all those picks, so now you tear it down,

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01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: but you don't have your own picks. So what I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't do is trade James Harden for a package surrounding

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Speaker 1: twenty six year old Caris LeVert. If I'm trading James Harden,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting Ben Simmons, I'm getting Michael Porter Jr. How

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Speaker 1: about this is a fake trade only I am speculating

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Speaker 1: about one for one James Harden Donovan Mitchell Donovan's under

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01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: contract long term Harden. Would you'd have to get Harden

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Speaker 1: over the fact that he's gonna have to live in

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01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, But hey, James Harden living in Salt

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Speaker 1: Lake City. He might be a forty point a game

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Speaker 1: guy with the nightlife. Donovan and Gobert, they're never gonna

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Speaker 1: get over it, and they're right now, best case, fifth

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Speaker 1: best team in the West. But you can't trade him

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Speaker 1: for Caris Laburton, Spencer Dinwoody who are twenty six and

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01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: twenty seven years old and draft picks that are gonna

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Speaker 1: be bad picks. You can't do that. You stick right

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Speaker 1: from Fox Sports one. First things First, you reported this.

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Speaker 1: I think I want to give you credit for being,

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Speaker 1: you know, the journalist that you are. Edward and Bernstein.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to James Harden's jersey was retired by

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Speaker 1: a stripping thank you, Thank you, Dan. Can I tell

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Speaker 1: you something? This is your me. I'm a radio I'm

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01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:21,959
Speaker 1: a radio guy at heart. Yeah. And seven years ago

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Speaker 1: when I was in Houston, right after they acquired James Harden,

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01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:30,959
Speaker 1: I went and did some investigative journalism at Dreams made

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Speaker 1: famous by many a Drake song and James Harn's only

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Speaker 1: been there six months. And what they have at Dreams,

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01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: it's a gorgeous establishment. Again, I was a younger man

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Speaker 1: at the time. They have banners of their most famous performers,

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Speaker 1: diamond and there's cinnamon. Yeah, absolute thousand percent. There is

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Speaker 1: one that is not of one of their performers. It's

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01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: James Harden's jersey, and I couldn't believe it. Now pictures

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01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: are not recommended at those places, but I managed to

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Speaker 1: snap a small one and talk about on my radio show.

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01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: But again, I'm doing local radio. I'm Dan Patrick. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: even know my name at this point in time. Nobody cares.

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Speaker 1: Three years later, I think Steven Jackson or Matt Barnes,

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01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: one of them said her on Cowbird Show, and they

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Speaker 1: get all the credit, like I broke the story years ago.

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Speaker 1: So I appreciate you remembering or knowing that and giving

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Speaker 1: me credit for that. You've sent out a tweet on

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Speaker 1: Taysom Hill. You're not all in on Taysom Hill starting

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Speaker 1: for the Saints, I gather I can't believe it. I

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Speaker 1: in fact, I don't believe it. Sure is he's starting,

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Speaker 1: Sure is he gonna throw the majority of the passes.

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Speaker 1: That's impossible for new league. People think I don't like

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Speaker 1: Taysom Hill. People, Actually, you know it is in a

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01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 1: safe space. People think I don't like white quarterbacks. That's

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01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: not really true. But I understand why people think it is.

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Speaker 1: I have no problem with Taysom Hill. I have a

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Speaker 1: problem with the way Taysom Hill's discussed. There are two

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Speaker 1: teams in the league that would love to have Taysom Hill.

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Speaker 1: He can do a little bit of everything. He is

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01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: definitely worth a roster spot. But he's thirty years old.

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01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: He's thrown twenty more career passes than me, and he's

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01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: at sixteen million next year. I don't he's not a

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback now. I don't know that Jamis is either,

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Speaker 1: but I think Jamis there's obviously more upside. Jamis is younger.

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Speaker 1: Jamis we know, has all of the ability except for

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Speaker 1: not turning the ball over. And we've found out he

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01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: got his eyes fixed this summer. Now. I don't know

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01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: if that means he was colored blind, but maybe he

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01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 1: just couldn't see the jerseys. Maybe lasix surgery. Jamis Winston's

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Speaker 1: going to be a revelation. I just know Taysom Hill's

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Speaker 1: not starting quarterback in this league. I know that we

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Speaker 1: when Cam got Covid where the Patriots like, hey, Jacobe Myers,

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01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 1: he could start. No, just because he played in high

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01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: school didn't mean he gets to start for the team.

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Speaker 1: Should make a bet though, if Taysom Hill proves you wrong. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well you got you know, everybody on your show. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised you didn't. Nobody made a bet with you

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Speaker 1: on Taysom Hill. Well I had. Here's the thing, how

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Speaker 1: about you wear a jersey. If he has two touchdown passes,

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01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: then you have Taysom Hill week a week. Yeah that

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Speaker 1: all you do is say something nice. You wear a

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Speaker 1: jersey might be a b yu you become Mormon. You know,

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Speaker 1: I just thought about this. I need to right now

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01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: say something nice about Steve Young, by the way, one

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Speaker 1: of those underrated quarterbacks in history of the league. Because

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Speaker 1: I tracked Danny Ainge and Taysom Hill on this show.

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01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: So there's gonna be an Ansalt Lake City. I didn't

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Speaker 1: even think about it. The whole of the Home Roman

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01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 1: community is gonna be against me. If you guys are

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Speaker 1: wonderful people, you evidently you don't produce great quarterbacks in

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01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: New Orleans or great gems in Boston. But aside from

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01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: and I got no people, you know what, for the

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01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: betterment of your career, I'm going to cut you short

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01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 1: now and just say send you into the weekend, and

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Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Chasom Hill. Now I wasn't. I don't

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Speaker 1: root for anybody, but now I am. I want him

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Speaker 1: to light it up against the Falcons. Yeah, to make

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01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: me look like an idiot. That's fair. Can I tell

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Speaker 1: you one quick thing, just very out trying to end

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Speaker 1: these things like this? Okay, at dinner during quarantine, my

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01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: daughters get to the what show we watch? We're gonna

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01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: watch a show my older daughter likes Blackish. My younger daughter,

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01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: or the seven year old, oddly enough, has fallen in love.

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01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: It caused me show, it causes big conflict. So my

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01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 1: wife and I said, you know what if we're gonna

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Speaker 1: watch them, start watching family movies. And three days ago

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Speaker 1: we started. We stumbled upon the Netflix Adam Sandler catalog

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01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 1: and I said to my daughter, who's right now remote learning,

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Speaker 1: I'm going on his show because I pointed you down there.

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Speaker 1: None of them they don't believe me. They're like, what

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01:10:58,320 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 1: do you mean his show? I'm like, he's sports Guy

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01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 1: is not sports guy as an actor. So you have

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01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: convinced a young generation of America with your acting shops

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01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: that that's what you do full time. So how about

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01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: that would you like an eight by ten glossie that

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01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: I could make it out to your daughters, you know,

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01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: to the kids. Maybe, Oh yeah, that would be great.

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01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: That would be great. Just make sure you sign it

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01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 1: the guy from the Adam Sandler movie. Okay, because they

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01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: don't know your name. Okay, maybe maybe Fritzie can get

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01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: your daughter's names and I'll be happy to sign a

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Speaker 1: did your wife want one? Um, That's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: soft note, but I'll circle back. Okay, Thank you, Nick,

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Speaker 1: See have a good weekend. That's nick right. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to

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