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Speaker 1: President Trump has hired a high powered New York lawyer

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Speaker 1: as he faces multiple investigations related to his campaign in

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Speaker 1: Russian interference in the election. Mark Caswitz and his firm

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Speaker 1: have represented Trump in various cases ranging from divorce to bankruptcy,

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Speaker 1: allegations of sexual harassment and fraud for more than fifteen years.

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Speaker 1: Joining us is Bob van Voris Bloomberg News legal reporter

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Speaker 1: Bob Trump has been relying mostly on White House Council

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Speaker 1: Don McGann, who served the Office of the Presidency, not

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Speaker 1: Trump himself. What made Trump decide to hire a personal attorney, Well,

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Speaker 1: presidents have done this in the past when they face

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Speaker 1: potential individual liability. UH, his White House Council has obligations

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Speaker 1: to UH doesn't have the same obligation to keep, you know,

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Speaker 1: to the client. He has obligation to the White House

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Speaker 1: and the presidency. But Trump believe that he potentially faced

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Speaker 1: some individual liability and needs to have his own lawyer.

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Speaker 1: Casuwitz doesn't specialize in criminal law and has less Washington

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Speaker 1: experience than some other lawyers who are reportedly under consideration.

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Speaker 1: So what does he bring to the table. He doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Casuwits is not on the shortlist of people that you

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Speaker 1: would expect to be involved in a Washington type of investigation.

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Speaker 1: What he does bring to the table is UH sort

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Speaker 1: of pitbull type intensity. He is somebody who can be

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Speaker 1: expected to be extremely loyal to Trump, UH, to be

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Speaker 1: very combative in battling his adversaries. And those are the

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Speaker 1: qualities that he's shown as a as a New York litigator.

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Speaker 1: And in the Bloomberg News article on this um Robert Bennett,

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Speaker 1: who defended from a President Bill Clinton from sexual harassment

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Speaker 1: claims in a civil lawsuit brought by Paula Jones, said

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Speaker 1: Trump needs a lawyer with a lot of experience in

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Speaker 1: dealing with what I like to called the Bermuda triangle,

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Speaker 1: the overlapping of Congress, the Special Council, and the media.

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Speaker 1: Can anyone control Trump and this ever expanding investigation, Well,

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Speaker 1: it's an excellent question. I mean, we've seen that it

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Speaker 1: is hard for Trump's um aids and and certainly it

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Speaker 1: has been for his lawyers. It's hard to control what

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Speaker 1: he says. He's gonna He's going to say what he

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Speaker 1: wants to say, and that can make things difficult for

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Speaker 1: a lawyer sometimes. Because Bennett also said that they need

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Speaker 1: to quiet the constant drumbeat of stories in the media

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Speaker 1: while dealing with a Special Council investigation. And I wonder

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Speaker 1: how that's going to happen when Trump returns home and

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Speaker 1: has a Twitter access again. It's a good question. I mean,

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Speaker 1: unless the lawyer is sitting at his elbow while he's

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Speaker 1: tweeting in the middle of the night. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's hard to know. And in President Trump is

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Speaker 1: going to have to take advice if he, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: wants the best results from this. I would think how

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Speaker 1: much will the Special Counsel, if you know, reach out

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Speaker 1: to Trump's attorney. Will they be looking for documents? Um,

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Speaker 1: it seems like Trump there will be a fight if

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Speaker 1: they want him to testify. You would certainly expect him

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Speaker 1: to go through the attorney for for any of those

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Speaker 1: sort of requests. And you would expect caswits to be,

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Speaker 1: you know, in close contact with Don McGann and the

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Speaker 1: White House and the White House legal staff. And as

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Speaker 1: far as some of the other investigate can you show

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Speaker 1: some of the other investigations that are going on in

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Speaker 1: addition to the Special Council investigation, which seems to be

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Speaker 1: the most focused well, that's certainly the I think the

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Speaker 1: central concern here. Um, there will be uh you know,

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Speaker 1: sort of related concerns about at least the issue has

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Speaker 1: been raised whether the firing of the former FBI director

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Speaker 1: constituted obstruction or justice. Um, so there's certainly related questions.

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Speaker 1: But the investigation of the potential Russian contacts, I think

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Speaker 1: is going to be the meat of the representation here.

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Speaker 1: And I've I understand I've read that he makes an

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Speaker 1: hour considering what other lawyers make. I mean, is that

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Speaker 1: part of the course for your high uh you know,

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Speaker 1: high fighting lawyer. That's kind of at the top end.

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Speaker 1: That's that shows somebody who is has very wealthy clients corporations, individuals,

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Speaker 1: and uh, somebody who can be expected to deliver um,

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Speaker 1: you know, good results for that money. And I imagine

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Speaker 1: that part of this might be he knows Casuits for

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Speaker 1: so long, similar to a lot of the other people

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Speaker 1: that he's chosen. That's right. We've seen President Trump choose aids,

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Speaker 1: choose among people he has known for a long time,

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Speaker 1: people he trust. He seems to put a premium on

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Speaker 1: the ability to trust people and casuwits to somebody that

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Speaker 1: he's got a kind of history with Well, this will

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Speaker 1: be an interesting thing to watch. I must say, and

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. That's Bob Van Voris. He's a

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Speaker 1: to be talking about Attorney General Jeff's sessions. He's against

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Speaker 1: consent decrees, but do federal consent decrees help reduce police misconduct?

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Speaker 1: There's a new study out that points in that direction,

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Speaker 1: but there are a lot of holes in that study,

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