1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I'm going 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: to try to get control of myself here in the 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: third hour. Let me update you on the news. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: Utah. 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: This is according to Matt Finn at Fox News Channel Utah. 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: Law enforcement just postponed and upcoming press conference due to 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: quote rapid developments. For those of you who are wondering 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: about the latest, we still do not have the alleged 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: assassin in custody. Buck, you probably could talk to that 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: from a sort of background in your experience over time. 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: It's been nearly twenty four hours since you yesterday during 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: the final hour of this program, initially saw the fact 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: that there had been a shooting. They have photos out, 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: We have shared those photos. Certainly, we have a big 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: audience of you listening in Utah, and to be fair, 16 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: it's been twenty three hours basically since the shooting. The 17 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: guy could be anywhere. They say that they found an 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: abandoned rifle they believe in the woods behind the school. 19 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: They have shared photos of the individual they believe of 20 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: the college age, appears to be male, that potentially did 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: the shooting. Twenty three hours a long time, Buck. Now, 22 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: historically there are analogs. I mean, it took many days, 23 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: for instance, to catch John Wilkes Booth after the assassination 24 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: of President Clinton, President Lincoln. But it's been a long 25 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: time since I can remember a situation like this, you know, 26 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: Bobby Kennedy, I guess the MLK assassination James Earl Ray, 27 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: I actually think fled the country if I remember that 28 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: story correctly post assassination. But twenty three hours a lot 29 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: of time. 30 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 3: I'm very, very much hopeful that they will have an 31 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: arrest here while we were on the air, But with 32 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: each passing out or the concern rises that this assassin 33 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 3: had time to prepare and and and also prepared an 34 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: exit plan and we don't know what that means yet, 35 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: and we'll have more information within within hours, I would, 36 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: I would assume about where this investigation stands. It's something 37 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: clearly the full weight and force of law enforcement is 38 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: being brought to bear on this issue issue, as it should. 39 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: But there are Look, there are cases where people have 40 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: done horrible things and managed to get out of the country. That, 41 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 3: unfortunately is a possibility that has gone through my mind. 42 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: I hope that's not the case. There was a an 43 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 3: assassination of CIA employees Clay that occurred back in the 44 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 3: early nineties, and that he just went up to people 45 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 3: that he knew there was used to be a stoplight 46 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: at Langley and the shooter knew that the people who 47 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 3: were going to make that left turn we're all going 48 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 3: into Langley, So we assume that they were CIA employees 49 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 3: and he's went up with a rifle and just shot 50 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: people sitting in their cars. He managed to make it 51 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: to Afghanistan and Pakistan and took ten years to get him. 52 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: So I am hoping that what we're going to find 53 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 3: is this evil, you know the words I cannot say 54 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: on radio, is in custody and facing the full weight 55 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: of the justice system within hours, if not minutes. So 56 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: we'll continue to watch this as closely as we can. 57 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: And I know that Director Patel and Deputy Director Bongino, 58 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: and everybody at the senior levels of law enforcement for 59 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: the state of Utah and for the federal government is 60 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: all hands on deck with this, as they should be. 61 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: So I think that the likelihood is still high that 62 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: we will get an arrest of this assassin soon. 63 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: We had Charlie on the program and peppering the show 64 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: with a variety of different audio clips from Charlie Kirk. 65 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: We had him on the show right after the election, 66 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: and I had the team pull a few of these. 67 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: This was right around Thanksgiving. Charlie Kirk came on the 68 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: show and I have talked. We've talked a ton, and 69 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: it's one of the most devastating aspects of all of 70 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: this that his kids are so young, and the humanity 71 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: involved of just thinking about a little girl and little 72 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: boy that will never get to grow up and know 73 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: their dad is devastating for any parent grandparent out there. 74 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: And I think that it's worth noting that Charlie was effervescent. 75 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: He was almost always upbeat. He was incredibly optimistic, and 76 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: he was a buck. This is where we connected. You've 77 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: talked about it. I think you've nailed it. I innately 78 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: trust college football fans. It doesn't matter who you root for. 79 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes you root for teams that I think are awful 80 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: talking to you Alabama fans, but Charlie was a big 81 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: Oregon Ducks fan, and so I would text with Charlie. 82 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: I don't think ever about politics. It was all about 83 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: college football, and so when he was on the program, 84 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: I think, Buck, you, I think it was maybe Thanksgiving 85 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: week and we had guests, and I think you might 86 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: have been out this day. I was were family for 87 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and you were, Yeah, you were handling the show. 88 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: I think I was solow. Here was the first question 89 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: I asked him, which was he loves the Oregon Ducks. 90 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: I know we got a lot of listeners out in Oregon. 91 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: Here's a flashback November twenty sixth, twenty twenty four, Charlie 92 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: on the program, talking right off the top about the 93 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: Oregon Ducks. Charlie, you and I ran into each other 94 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: at mar Lago recently. What's the first thing you wanted 95 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: to talk about? 96 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 4: Oh, college football. That's the only thing I want to 97 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 4: talk about. Great to be here, Clay, I mean, I 98 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 4: talked politics all day long. It's refreshing to talk to 99 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 4: somebody that is as informed or even better informed than 100 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 4: me on the most the more important thing that happens 101 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 4: in the fall, not the election, but our tradition of 102 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 4: college football. So great to be here. We had a 103 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 4: great time catching up and talking about how the organ 104 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 4: Ducks should win the national championship this year. 105 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: All right, So I have told Buck for some time. 106 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: Buck is out for Thanksgiving already that I trust college 107 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: football fans immediately more than other people, before I even 108 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: know anything else about them. You've been all over the 109 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: country working in battleground states, Big ten, sec A, PAC 110 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: twelve used to be obviously Big twelve. All of the 111 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: different acc conferences out there were their battlegrounds. Do you 112 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 1: also trust college football fans more than anybody else? 113 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 4: Oh, without a doubt. Now when you say these conferences, 114 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 4: I don't know what you're talking about. You're talking about 115 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 4: the AEC powerhouse of cal Berkeley. I mean, it's very confusing. 116 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: So taking a shot at your old PAC twelve arrivals, 117 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: I appreciate that more. 118 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 4: About conference realignment. It's just the whole whole thing is 119 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 4: so goofy. But no, Yes, if if someone has a 120 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 4: passion for college football, I have something like inherently and 121 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 4: deep in common with them, more so than almost anything. 122 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: So that conversation and then Buck I asked him, and 123 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: I think it's good to hear from Charlie himself here 124 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: about the campus tours and the feeling he gets from them, 125 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: about the impact and the movement towards Trump from young people. 126 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 5: Here. 127 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: He talked with us about why doing these campus events 128 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: is so important. Cut Tim, Are you surprised by how 129 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: well Trump did in the battleground states or were the 130 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: results almost exactly what you expected. 131 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 4: I didn't get into the prediction business, you know. I'll 132 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: tell you the weekend before I modeled out a way 133 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 4: where we could win and that we could lose. You 134 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 4: never quite know because polling is such a guest coman. 135 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: I will say this though, you know, visiting a lot 136 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 4: of these schools, we did these campus events that were 137 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: just massive and had millions and millions of people online 138 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 4: when we did them. One in particular at the University 139 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: of Georgia where we five thousand people show up and 140 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 4: I turned to my team, I said, guys, this is 141 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: not normal, Like, this is not anything I've seen before. 142 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 4: I think we might win, and I think might win 143 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 4: really big, and win with young people. Same at Penn 144 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 4: State we had thirty five hundred young people Arizona State University. 145 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 4: I mean, we were all across the country, and so 146 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: it all makes sense now that the dust is settled. 147 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 4: But I would be lying to you, Clay, if I 148 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 4: didn't say that they didn't have any some anxiety and 149 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 4: on ease. We are up against the most powerful thing 150 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 4: ever to exist. I mean, look what they did, the 151 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 4: Trump They try to put them in prison for seven 152 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 4: hundred years. They lied, they mirror, they slandered, they censored, 153 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 4: and the American people defeated that. And even to the 154 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 4: very end, I was a little bit paranoid. I'll acknowledge 155 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 4: it because we've kind of been beaten into submission the 156 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 4: last couple of years that can we really win and 157 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 4: is there gonna be shenanigans? Is there gonna be tom foolery? 158 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 4: And so I'm not surprised by how what we do 159 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 4: with young men, but pleasantly surprised at the let's just say, 160 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 4: the common sense of the American people. 161 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: This is I mean, I think goes to the success 162 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: that he had and what we were talking about that 163 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: email question we got in the last hour. Young men 164 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: are looking for they're looking for answers in a world 165 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: that they feel is very dishonest to them. I think 166 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: that's particularly true in the wake of COVID, but for 167 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: basically all of human history, we told young men get 168 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: married and provide for your family, and now they're being told, well, 169 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: masculinity's toxic, and well, maybe you don't need to be 170 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: ahead of a household and maybe you don't need to 171 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: provide for your family. Maybe even that's misogynistic to suggest. 172 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: And if you're a young man today, you went and 173 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: you watch the Charlie Kirks of the world, very popular 174 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: on YouTube and TikTok, and this is why we want 175 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: to continue to grow that following year. And it's where 176 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: I think college football connects with a lot of young 177 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: men as well. But that's why he was so impactful 178 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: to so many of these people, because he went and 179 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: found them where they were. He didn't expect them to 180 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: come find him, and that is so important. I think 181 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: if you're going to talk about winning hearts and mind. 182 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 3: I also think that the Democrat left had become very 183 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 3: overconfident for a long time that they would just have 184 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: this lock on the youth because of the institutional advantages 185 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: that they have from media, from campuses, from the faculty lounge, 186 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: these universities, from the public school system and public teachers 187 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 3: and all of this and any break on that I 188 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: think sent to panic. And this last election was the 189 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 3: first time that it really you know, Charlie's work was 190 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 3: building up for years before this, but in this last 191 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: election the results became apparent when it came to who 192 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 3: was going to lead the country. 193 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: For the next four years. 194 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 3: And I think that there was a real shockwave that 195 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 3: went through the anti Trump forces because they always assumed 196 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 3: young people will be effectively the brainwashed sheep that we 197 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 3: need them to be. And Charlie was taking the the 198 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: rhetorical fight to the other side on these campuses, and 199 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: that was something that was very powerful, and I think 200 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: that you know, it's it's something that I know a 201 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 3: lot of us are now going to be considering, how 202 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 3: do we carry the torch forward? How do we continue 203 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 3: the work, the fight that Charlie was leading in so 204 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 3: many ways, And that's going to be an ongoing conversation 205 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: here because one thing is for sure, We're we're not 206 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: going to change how we feel, what we say, what 207 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: matters to us or and I say we, I don't 208 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 3: just mean Clay and me, I mean everybody who does this, 209 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: everybody who's outspoken, everyone who has a platform and is 210 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: trying to fight for a better country, trying to fight 211 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: for the country that they love. Charlie would want us 212 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: all to continue in that fight, and I know that 213 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: we will. So that's that's where right now. I find 214 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 3: myself playing. Also, I just you know what you what 215 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: you said before we had to go into commercial break 216 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: is very powerful. 217 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:08,599 Speaker 5: You know. 218 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: The first thing it is I went down to hug 219 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: my wife and I kissed my little baby boy on 220 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: the top of his head, and you know, kiss my 221 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: wife and just all of you, just just you know, 222 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: hug your family. 223 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: Do it today. 224 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: Do it now. 225 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: Call mom and dad if you haven't done it in 226 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: a while, if you don't have kids, if you are 227 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: mom and dad, hug your kids, man, because you don't 228 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: know when the last time you're going to be able 229 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: to do that is yeah. And I think again, that 230 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: is the world that they have created, and that's the 231 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: world where they want to rule with terror, and I 232 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: think it's incumbent upon all of us, just like twenty 233 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: four years ago when they attacked us on nine to eleven, 234 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: because of our exceptionalism, because of our building of the 235 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: greatest country that has ever existed in the world, they 236 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: looked around from their hovels and wondered why they didn't 237 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: have what we have, and they hated us for it. 238 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: And I think again, the weakness of the person who 239 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: killed Charlie Kirk was he could not in any way 240 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: intellectually match the arguments of Charlie Kirk, and so he 241 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: decided to kill him. That is the actions of a coward, 242 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: because ultimately, what you're saying is the words of the 243 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: person are so powerful that the only way I can 244 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: try to defeat them is by stopping them from ever 245 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: speaking again. Fortunately, we have pretty good history on this 246 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: buck and killing people who are speaking powerfully. Look at 247 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: the Christian faith is one of the worst ways to 248 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: restrict the spread of truth and justice. 249 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 5: And so. 250 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: All of us are now called upon to be braver, stronger, 251 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: and more courageous than we have been in the past 252 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: to help uplift a country that desperately needs us. Do 253 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: what Charlie did, and we will continue every day. We 254 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: will do that. 255 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 3: You know, Charlie was also a really big pro life supporter, 256 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: and he often worked with and headlined events for Preborn, 257 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: which is a sponsor here on the program. It was 258 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 3: a sponsor on Charlie's program and one that both Charlie 259 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 3: and I were very proud always to be able to 260 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 3: do what we can to help. And the way we 261 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: help is by telling all of you about what Preborn 262 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 3: is doing saving lives and the pro life movement was 263 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 3: critical to Charlie. It's critical to me, and this is 264 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: work that we must continue day in and day out. 265 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 3: And that is what Preborn is doing. Preborn, as you know, 266 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: brings in mothers who have an unplanned pregnancy and they're 267 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: usually getting a lot of pressure. There's a lot of 268 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: noise out there that the only thing that they could do, 269 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: the only choice they have is abortion. Well that's just 270 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: not true, and Preborn says, please come into one of 271 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 3: these clinics. To any woman out there who's pregnant, come 272 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: into one of these clinics, will give you an ultrasound, 273 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: you can meet the tiny baby in your womb, and 274 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: we will offer you love and support to bring this 275 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: child into the world. It's an incredibly important organization. It's 276 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: work that Charlie loved, and we should continue it here today. 277 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 3: Please support Preborn. Dial pound two fifty and say the 278 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 3: keyword baby. That's pound two five zero. Say the keyword baby. 279 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: I donate to Preborn. I think what they do is incredible. 280 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: Dial pound two five zero say the keyword baby. Or 281 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 3: you can go online Preborn dot com, slash buck, Preborn 282 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: dot com, slash b u c K. 283 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: News and politics, but also a little comic relief. 284 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 4: Clay Travis at Buck Sexton. 285 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 286 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: get your podcast. 287 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in to Clay and Buck. We're 288 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: having a tough day here. You all know why we're 289 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 3: trying to come together to grief but also to find 290 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 3: a way forward. Here we all miss our friend Charlie Kirk. 291 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 3: We miss what he represented for the country, and we 292 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: want justice to degree that it is possible to get 293 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 3: such a thing in such a horrific situation, with the 294 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 3: killer arrested and hopefully swiftly prosecuted, and I would like 295 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 3: to see executed. Let's take some callers here. Nicole in Quarterlin, Idaho. Nicole, Welcome. 296 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 6: Nicole, I can you hear me? 297 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 298 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: Gotcha? 299 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: Hi? 300 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 4: Okay. 301 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 6: Two points. I just never realized the impact that Charlie 302 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 6: had on the use of our country. It was my 303 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 6: fifteen year old son who informed me of his passing, 304 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 6: and I was just so impressed that my son knew 305 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 6: him and he said, yeah, Mom, I watch him all 306 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 6: the time on TikTok. And another thing I loved about 307 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 6: Charlie was I truly felt he was Heaven sent, and 308 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 6: that he's a testament that God is in the details 309 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 6: of our lives. Because Trump needed him and I knew God. 310 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 6: God knew he needed him, and he I think Trump 311 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 6: has been humbled in a way in this second term. 312 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 6: And Charlie, despite their fifty year age gap, what a 313 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 6: friendship they formed. It was just so special and I'm 314 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 6: just so impressed with Charlie, and I feel, you know, 315 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 6: as sad as it is we've lost him, it says 316 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 6: wonderful that we knew him, and I know he would 317 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 6: want us to continue the work. And for that young 318 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 6: man who is suffering this today with his mom writing 319 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 6: that email, just would hope that he would don't lose hope. 320 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 6: That's what Charlie would want, Charlie, for him to believe 321 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 6: that the cause is bigger than him and that together, 322 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 6: you know, we were stronger. And Charlie would want us 323 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 6: to just pick up the baton and keep going. 324 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: Amen. I think that's one hundred percent right. We come back, 325 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: by the way, we're going to be joined by Senator 326 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: Bill Haggerty of Tennessee. I'm sure that he will want 327 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: to talk about this one bit of positivity out there. 328 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: We have a report that Jade Vance has met with 329 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: the family and they are bringing Charlie's casket home to 330 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: Arizona on Air Force two, that is the Vice President's plane. 331 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: More on this when we come back. We appreciate and 332 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: love all of you. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck 333 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,959 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. There is a press conference that is coming 334 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: soon that we will take live. You're going to be 335 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: joined by Senator Bill Haggerty here in a moment. But 336 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: I wanted you to be able to hear that last 337 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: caller talking about the impact that Charlie Kirk had had 338 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: on her teenager. And I also want to tell you, look, 339 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: there's probably a lot of you that are going to 340 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: be looking for something that is not serious, and I'm 341 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: one of them. 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At clayanbuck dot com, we give you 351 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 1: a pick every Thursday for NFL Action. We've been doing 352 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: this for a few years. That pays out at five 353 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: to one. You get fifty bucks. When you go to 354 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: pricepicks dot com use code Clay. That's pricepicks dot Com 355 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: code Clay. Senator Bill Haggerty with us right now, Senator, 356 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: I know you pretty well. I know you've got I 357 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: think four kids, and I bet your sons in particular 358 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: have been influenced and impacted in a significant way by 359 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk like mine have. In fact, our kids have 360 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: gone to one of the same schools. I don't know 361 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: if you know this, Senator, but the kids at our 362 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: kids mutual school all wore jackets and ties, which they 363 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: are not fond of doing, in honor of Charlie Kirk today, 364 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: basically the entire school. What was your reaction when you 365 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: saw and heard what had happened? What should happen next? 366 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 5: Well, I've known Charlie for years. I wasn't close with 367 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 5: Charlie to the extent you know, never took a vacation 368 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 5: or something like that. We see one another in a room, 369 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 5: we'd always make our way across to shake hands. How 370 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 5: are you doing? I was thinking the last time I 371 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 5: saw Charlie was at Mono Lago not too long ago. 372 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 5: But it just, you know, as a parent, it just 373 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 5: strikes deep, not only the influence on my sons, And 374 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 5: I tell you my sons share something with Charlie as well. 375 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 5: My boys are both Eagle Scouts as am I so was. 376 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 5: Charlie was an Eagle Scout, and Charlie is a little 377 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 5: bit older than my sons. But you know, I have 378 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 5: a very parental view of young people like Charlie who 379 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 5: are willing to enter the fray, to be the man 380 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 5: in the arena, so to speak, and just to step 381 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 5: up and engage and debate and basically bring out what's 382 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 5: best in America. That's the freedom of speech that we 383 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 5: have that no other nation enjoys. And to see that 384 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 5: curtailed in such a tragic way as heartbreaking to me. 385 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 5: It's just heartbreaking, claims Senator Haggerty. 386 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 3: I appreciate you being here, and it's a tough day 387 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 3: for the whole country. We were prepared to have a 388 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: remembrance of nine to eleven, and then this terrible incident 389 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 3: became something that it's just so many of us couldn't 390 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 3: sleep well last night thinking about it, the grief that 391 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 3: has spread across the country. What would you say to 392 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 3: everybody right now, especially to a lot of I mean, 393 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: you have young boys yourself, To the parents out there 394 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 3: who are worried about how this is going to affect 395 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 3: their sons and daughters who looked. 396 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 5: Up to Charlie, Well, I don't think this should impact 397 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 5: the degree to which they look up to Charlie at all. 398 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 5: In fact, I think this is going to raise the 399 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 5: respect for Charlie and raise the attention level in a 400 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 5: way that is well deserved but sad. At the same time, 401 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 5: Charlie certainly didn't name to be a martyr, but he 402 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 5: has been pushing for a cause. It's been vitally important 403 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 5: to him. I think it's vitally important to our nation, 404 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 5: and his willingness to engage, to debate and to clarify 405 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 5: for you on people so they could actually see the 406 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 5: truth and cut through the noise that you spend time 407 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 5: at clay Buck. You both spend time cutting through the 408 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 5: noise in the mainstream media, the obsuscation that takes place, 409 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 5: the politicization that takes play place in the media, the 410 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 5: silencing that takes place. And Charlie was a beacon when 411 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 5: it comes to standing up and bringing the truth to 412 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 5: light and enabling a real discussion about issues rather than 413 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 5: just spin spin spin all day long. Charlie was willing 414 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 5: to engage, He was willing to listen to different opinions. 415 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 5: He was willing to argue in public in a respectful manner. 416 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 5: This is the way our forefathers, our founding fathers designed 417 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 5: this nation to respect and support just that type of interaction. 418 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 5: And what happened was an act of cowardice, first and foremost, 419 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 5: only a total coward do something like that, and someone 420 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 5: with such a narrow mind that they think the only 421 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 5: way to address a difference of opinion is to shut 422 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 5: the other side down. It's a manifestation of what's gone 423 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 5: so deeply wrong with the whole cancel culture here in 424 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 5: America and anyone. And I'm sad to say it, but 425 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 5: there are people that are actually trying to justify this 426 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 5: or in some way even celebrating this that dehumanizes not 427 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 5: only those of us that care that have heavy feelings. 428 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 5: It dehumanizes the person that could possibly think that way. 429 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 5: And we need to get back to the basics here 430 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 5: in America. We need to get back to fundamental respect. 431 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 5: And again, it's heartbreaking to see what's happening, what has happened, 432 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 5: I should say, with Charlie's loss, But I hope that 433 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 5: it will be a chance for America to wake up, 434 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 5: for our young people to wake up and say, this 435 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 5: young man stood for something quite important, and I think 436 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 5: he's going to live on in our memories for years 437 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 5: and decades to come. 438 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: We're talking to Center Bill Haggerty of Tennessee. This is 439 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: happening all over the country, sadly, but it happened where 440 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: you and I happened to both live in Tennessee. A 441 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: Middle Tennessee State University dean, I know, there's a lot 442 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: of different deans. A student affiliated dean celebrated the death 443 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk MTSU. The college has terminated that person 444 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: and they are no longer employed by the university. But sadly, 445 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: Buck and I have been talking about this, Senator. It's 446 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: one thing to disagree politically, it's entirely a different thing 447 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: when someone is assassinated, to celebrate the assassination, which we 448 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: are seeing take place all over the place, including sometimes 449 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: at public universities. How do we restore the soul of 450 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: the nation. It's a big question, but a big I'm 451 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: incredibly troubled buck is too. It's indefensible the reactions we 452 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: are seeing. What should happen? What can we do to 453 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: restore that soul? 454 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 5: Well, the particular incident that you're describing was extraordinarily disturbing 455 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 5: to be and I know it was to you and 456 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 5: everybody else. Middle Tennessee State University is by population by 457 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 5: student population, the largest university in the state of Tennessee, 458 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 5: a population as a state with over seven million people, 459 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 5: MTSU is our largest, our largest college. And to have 460 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 5: the I think was the assistant dean of student services 461 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 5: or being students make a state that in any way, 462 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 5: in any manner, could be interpreted as celebrating it, as 463 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 5: showing zero sympathy, I think is a direct quote from 464 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 5: what I saw and the person's communicate what a terrible 465 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 5: message does That sends the students that you're supposed to 466 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 5: be there to support it and teach. If that's the 467 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 5: type of indoctrination and teaching that's going on. Something is 468 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 5: sadly failed, and I applaud doctor Sidney McBee and the 469 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 5: leadership there at MTSU for dealing with this right away. 470 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 5: I'm friends with most of the member of the members 471 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 5: of the board of the board of Directors of that university. 472 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 5: I know that they would abhor this sort of thing, 473 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 5: and these rogue faculty members, and there's no other way 474 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 5: to describe it. People that are in a position of 475 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 5: responsibility and trust with respect to our young people, particularly 476 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 5: the audience that Charlie was so good at reaching and touching. 477 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 5: For someone like that to step up and say what 478 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 5: they did is apparent, and I'm thankful that MTSU acted 479 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 5: swiftly to discharge them. 480 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 3: Hay, we appreciate you making the time for sir. God 481 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 3: bless you and your family and your children. Thanks for 482 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: being here. 483 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 5: God is always thank you for having me. 484 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: That center. Bill Haggerty does great work for the state 485 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: of Tennessee. We'll come back. There were reports that there 486 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: might be a press conference. Just to update some of you, 487 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: it now appears Buck there may not be a press conference, 488 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: so we're unsure exactly what is going to happen, But 489 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: obviously we're going to continue to update you, and if 490 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen, then we will certainly, Sean Hannity, I'm 491 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: sure we'll be following this story on many of the 492 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: different stations that you are all listening on right now 493 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: with all of us. 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That's LifeLock 510 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: dot com, my name Clay. 511 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: Want to begin to know when you're on to go 512 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: the team forty seven podcasts Trump highlights from the week 513 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: some days at noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck 514 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: podcast speed find It's on the iHeartRadio app or wherever 515 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: you get your podcasts. 516 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: We're closing up shops today here on Clay and Book. Look, 517 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 3: it was a difficult show for all of us. I'm 518 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 3: sure it was difficult for you to be with us 519 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 3: and thinking about these things. But we're honored and appreciated 520 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: that you were with us. And it is a very 521 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: special thing that Clay and I get to do with 522 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 3: all of you every day. 523 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: And we. 524 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 3: You know, we are going to do our best to 525 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 3: continue with the with the ethos and the mission of 526 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 3: this show, which aligned in lockstep with what Charlie wanted 527 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 3: for this country and with what he stood for. We 528 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 3: have that interview where he joined our show because of 529 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 3: course he was a friend of the show, friend of ours. 530 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 3: He came on, I was on vacation, but he was 531 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 3: able to speak to Clay about a whole range of things, 532 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 3: something very important to Charlie, and as we see critical 533 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,959 Speaker 3: now in America to have our focus is how we 534 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: are raising and how we are encouraging and building young 535 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 3: men up for the next to be the next generation 536 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: of male leadership in this critical country of ours. Is 537 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 3: republic that is the last best guaranteur of freedom for 538 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 3: all of us. Here is cut nine, Charlie. We're just 539 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 3: going to let you listen to what he had to 540 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 3: say about it. 541 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: Play it so you speaking of college football, a lot 542 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: of young men are college football fans. The campaign that 543 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: was just run, if you had to point to one 544 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: group that moved most massively from plus fourteen for Biden 545 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: to plus fourteen for Trump according to at least one 546 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal poll that I saw. Why did young men, 547 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: in your mind, people that you have been reaching out 548 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: to aggressively move so substantially in this election. 549 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 4: I'd say, I think it's because they want to be 550 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 4: part of a political movement that doesn't hate them. Over 551 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 4: the last couple of years, you started to see the 552 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 4: woke stuff that was really incubated in twenty twenty start 553 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 4: to germinate and metastasize and grow into all of our institutions. 554 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 4: And one of the core orthodoxies of woke is what 555 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 4: we call DEI is really a hatred of christian in 556 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 4: white straight men. And I hate to be that blunt 557 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 4: about it, but it is. It's the orthodox of it, 558 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 4: the orthodoxy of it, and young men, why am I 559 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 4: being part of this exactly? I want to be part 560 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 4: of a political movement that at least acknowledges that there 561 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 4: is men and women and says that it's a good 562 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 4: thing to be a man and that masculinity is not 563 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 4: inherently toxic. And I think top of that though, go ahead, police, 564 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 4: Yeah no, I. 565 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: Was just going to say, I think what's interesting and 566 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: you may have been going there too, is it starts 567 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: with white men are the problem. But the problem with 568 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: that is eventually it has to grow. And I think 569 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: black guys, Hispanic guys, Asian guys looking around like, hey, 570 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: I don't think masculinity is toxic. I think that men 571 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: and women are different. And suddenly you can't say that 572 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: and be a democrat. 573 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 4: Correct And then it even grows deeper into this kind 574 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 4: of tyranny of political correctness. Which at its core is 575 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 4: like toxic femininity, which is that we're going to police 576 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 4: all of your speech. The left has become a bunch 577 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 4: of skolds, of hall monitors of people that do not 578 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 4: believe in reexpression or dialogue or discourse. And you know 579 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 4: what we've seen in the last couple of years is 580 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 4: now a backlash of that where if there is anyone 581 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 4: in the quote unquote manisphere, you know, you say, Joe Rogan, 582 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 4: the Theo Vaughn, it's not that they're conservative, but they're 583 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 4: inherently anti left, that they're against the kind of new 584 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 4: left wing dogma and doctrine that believes that there needs 585 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 4: to be speech codes that you know, this trans nonsense. 586 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 4: And so young men in particular kind of led the 587 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 4: rebellion towards a political movement, one rooted in common sense patriotism, 588 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 4: liberty and freedom. 589 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 3: Clay I spoke at one of Charlie's very first events 590 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 3: or turning point. I don't know what number it was 591 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 3: in the progression, but it was twenty I think it 592 00:32:54,720 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 3: was twenty fifteen, so maybe early twenty sixteen, and I 593 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 3: remember something He came up to me backstage and this 594 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 3: is our first ever meeting, and I didn't know anything 595 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 3: about him. All I knew was that he had reached 596 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 3: out and he said, I love your stuff, would you 597 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 3: please come? And Tommy Laren was there and I was there, 598 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 3: and he said, I love your stuff, would you please 599 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: come and speak? And I said sure, you know I was. 600 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 3: I happened to it was in Dallas. I happened to 601 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 3: be in Dallas and he saw me backstage and he 602 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 3: had that already, of course, that Charlie energy and just 603 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 3: you know, this guy was just pulling it all together. 604 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 3: And he came up to me and he said, you know, 605 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 3: I listened to you fill in for Rush. Because this 606 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 3: is after I'd filled in for Rush a few times 607 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 3: as a guest host. You know, Charlie filled in on 608 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 3: my program years later when I was doing six to nine. 609 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 3: It's now Jesse Kelly slot. So Charlie filled in for me. 610 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 3: But he said, I listened to you for Rush, and 611 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 3: he said, you know, he was very generous. He said, 612 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 3: you know, you did such a great job, and that's 613 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 3: and basically was like, that's just so cool, Like he 614 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 3: was just telling that, yeah, so cool. He filled in 615 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 3: for Rush, and he said, you know how I learned conservatism. 616 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: He said. 617 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 3: The one thing that he absolutely never missed, and this 618 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 3: is I think for a lot of you bring things 619 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 3: full circle. He said, I couldn't always listen to all 620 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 3: three hours, but I listened to Rush Limbaugh's opening monologue 621 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 3: every day, starting in you know, junior high. Every day, 622 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 3: he said, he would listen to Rush. So this is 623 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 3: so much of Charlie and what he believed. It makes 624 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 3: sense and you understand where it was coming from. 625 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: Well, I think that's a really great analogy because what 626 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: it represents is all of us have a relatively short 627 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: amount of time on this planet right We don't know 628 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: when it's going to come to an end for any 629 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: of us. And I think Charlie got that he's only 630 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: thirty one, and Rush certainly got that. There are tons 631 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: of you listening to us right now who started listening 632 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: because mom and dad, Grandma and grandpa were just driving 633 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 1: you around the car. The Rush Baby universe is large, 634 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 1: and we've now been doing this show for over four years, 635 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: which means you could have gone from freshman year of 636 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 1: high school to being a senior now. And we're gonna 637 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 1: be doing it for hopefully years and years to come. 638 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 5: But you win. 639 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: By winning the culture. And that's what I would come 640 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 1: back to with Charlie. You have to go to people 641 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: where they are, and he went to them on a 642 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: college campus and he said, here's an open mic, let's debate, 643 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: and the very foundation of America is the best argument 644 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: should win. And Charlie had the best arguments, and he won, 645 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: and he won big. And the culture has shifted around him, 646 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: and that's why they killed him. And what we cannot 647 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: allow to happen, not you, me, not all of you 648 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: out there, what we cannot allowed to happen is for 649 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: his victories to go in vain. We have to pick 650 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: up the mantle and we have to advance it further 651 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: and further. And I know all of you are. 652 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 5: Going to do that. 653 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 3: Just say, Clay, and I make you all a solemn promise. 654 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 3: We will continue what we do here. We will continue 655 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 3: to honor what Charlie stood for in his memory, and 656 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 3: we will stay in this fight because it's a fight 657 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 3: to make this the best country for all of us 658 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 3: that we possibly can, and to tell you all the truth, 659 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 3: and you all play a role in it, play the 660 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 3: critical part in it every day, because without you, we 661 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to have any impact. So thank you 662 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 3: all for listening. God bless you. We're praying for all 663 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,439 Speaker 3: of you. We're praying for Charlie, Charlie's family. We love 664 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 3: you all, and please go hug and tell your family 665 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 3: you love them today