WEBVTT - Warren Tells Fed to Stop; Disney Wants More Magic from Iger

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the

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<v Speaker 2>stories we're following today.

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<v Speaker 3>The S and P five hundred begins the day at

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<v Speaker 3>its highest level since April of twenty twenty two. A

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<v Speaker 3>slow down in inflation is bolstering speculation the Fed is

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<v Speaker 3>close to ending raid hikes. The consumer Price index rose

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<v Speaker 3>three percent in June from a year ago. The core

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<v Speaker 3>measures at its lowest level since twenty twenty one. Former

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<v Speaker 3>New York Fed President William Dudley thinks the Fed is

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<v Speaker 3>almost done.

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<v Speaker 4>They won't move at the meeting after July. They'll take

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<v Speaker 4>a break, just like they did this last time, and

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<v Speaker 4>then we're going to get to November first. What was

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<v Speaker 4>a long time between now and November first. I can

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<v Speaker 4>imagine by that point it's possible that they'll see enough

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<v Speaker 4>news that makes some confident that they've done enough. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think November rate hike is really up for grabs

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<v Speaker 4>at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Former New York Fed President William Dudley and investors have

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<v Speaker 3>another inflation report to watch this morning, the Producer Price

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<v Speaker 3>Index for June.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, one of j.

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<v Speaker 2>Powell's harshest critics is calling for the FED to stop

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<v Speaker 2>raising rates. Nathan. We spoke yesterday after the CPI report

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<v Speaker 2>with the Massachusetts Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren.

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<v Speaker 5>We have great news today that inflation has been cut

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<v Speaker 5>by two thirds. So my message is take yes for

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<v Speaker 5>an answer, Chair Pal, and let's stop with the rate increases.

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<v Speaker 6>Done.

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<v Speaker 2>And Senator Elizabeth Warren, who once called Powell a quote

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous man to be running the Fed, made the comments

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<v Speaker 2>on Bloomberg's balance of power here. More of that conversation

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<v Speaker 2>a little later in the program.

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<v Speaker 3>The economy is also in focus overseas. Karen UK's economy

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<v Speaker 3>shrank less than expected in May. Gross domestic product fell

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<v Speaker 3>a tenth of one percent after a two tenths percent

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<v Speaker 3>gain in April.

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<v Speaker 2>And in Asia, Nathan, China's exports fell for a second

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<v Speaker 2>straight month in June. Exports decline twelve point four percent

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<v Speaker 2>in dollar terms from a year earlier, while imports dropped

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<v Speaker 2>six point eight percent. Exports the US fell almost twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four percent. It's the eleventh straight month of declines.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, China's activity online, Karen could be more to more

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<v Speaker 3>pressure on relations with the US. Sources tell US Commerce

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<v Speaker 3>Secretary Gina Ramondo's had her emails breached in a hack

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<v Speaker 3>that came out of China. Amy Morris has the details

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<v Speaker 3>from our Bloomberg ninety nine one newsroom in Washington.

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<v Speaker 7>Officials E Commerce and the State Department were attacked. Described

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<v Speaker 7>as targeted, The hackers were able to remain undetected for

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<v Speaker 7>a month after gaining access to email data from around

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<v Speaker 7>twenty five organizations. In mid May, weeks before Secretary of

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<v Speaker 7>State Anthony Blincoln met with officials in China, Cyber Defense

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<v Speaker 7>Agency SISA and the FBI issued a joint advisory urging

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<v Speaker 7>organizations to harden their Microsoft three sixty five cloud environments.

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<v Speaker 7>A Commerce Department spokesman declined to comment nor confirm the

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<v Speaker 7>breach of Ramondo's emails, which was reported earlier by The

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<v Speaker 7>Washington Post In Washington, I Mammy Morris, Bloomberg Daybreak.

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<v Speaker 2>Amy, thank you. Still the two nations are taking steps

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<v Speaker 2>to improve relations. Later today in Jakarta, Secretary of State

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Blincoln and China's top foreign policy official Wang Yee

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<v Speaker 2>will hold their second talks in a month.

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<v Speaker 3>Certain of corporate news Karen now Disney is extending the

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<v Speaker 3>contract of CEO Bob Iger for another two years to

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty six. Bloomberg's Ed Ludlow has more from sun Valley, Idaho,

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<v Speaker 3>where Iiger is attending Allen in Companies annual conference.

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<v Speaker 8>Iiger is the story of the Allen and Co. Conference

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<v Speaker 8>twenty twenty three. It was interesting because he's here with

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<v Speaker 8>Josh Tomorrow, who's Disney's parks chief, and Dana Walden, who's

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<v Speaker 8>the TV chief, and both of those names have been

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<v Speaker 8>touted as potential CEOs of Disney in the future. The

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<v Speaker 8>turnaround story at Disney, the focus on cost reduction. Iiger's

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<v Speaker 8>been at the heart of that, and there's been a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of discussion about what will happen. Actually in the

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<v Speaker 8>context of Hulu, Comcast retains a third of it but

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<v Speaker 8>has the right per the agreement, to require Disney to

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<v Speaker 8>buy out the rest of the stake. We haven't heard

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<v Speaker 8>anything about that, but there are a lot of questions

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<v Speaker 8>that people are asking Disney the main company this year

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<v Speaker 8>that's in focus. Ed Ludlow from Some Valley, Idaho for

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<v Speaker 8>Bloomberg News.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Ed, thank you well, Bob Iger is staying

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<v Speaker 2>on the job. Hollywood actors might be about to walk

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<v Speaker 2>off theirs, the Actors' union contract with movie and TV

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<v Speaker 2>producers expired last night, now SAG after members will vote

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<v Speaker 2>later this morning on whether to strike. Hollywood writers have

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<v Speaker 2>been on the pick and line since May. If the

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<v Speaker 2>actors joined them, it would be the first industry wide

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<v Speaker 2>strike in Hollywood since nineteen sixty.

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<v Speaker 3>Finally, four years after Jeffrey Epstein's death in prison by suicide,

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<v Speaker 3>legal action against former banking executive Jess Staley is revealing

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<v Speaker 3>a profound relationship between the pair. Bloomberg's Uwan Pots reports.

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<v Speaker 9>I miss you. The world is a tough place hanging there.

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<v Speaker 9>That's what Jess Staley wrote to Jeffrey Epstein in June

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<v Speaker 9>two thousand and eight, a fortnight after Epstein was jailed

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<v Speaker 9>and charges of soliciting prostitution from someone under the age

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<v Speaker 9>of eighteen. A review of thousands of pages of documents

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<v Speaker 9>and emails suggests the relationship between Epstein and the former

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<v Speaker 9>JP Morgan executive went far beyond that of banker and clients.

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<v Speaker 9>It points to regular and repeated contact, including trips to

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<v Speaker 9>Epstein's properties and sharing tips on how to negotiate multimillion

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<v Speaker 9>dollar salaries. The findings he also shows Staley wanted to

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<v Speaker 9>keep Epstein's accounts at JP Morgan when other executives wanted

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<v Speaker 9>him gone. JP Morgan's top lawyer wrote in twenty eleven

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<v Speaker 9>that Epstein is not an nonall person in any way

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<v Speaker 9>he should not be a client. The lawsuit, which alleges

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<v Speaker 9>JP Morgan knowingly benefited from Epstein's sex trafficking, is scheduled

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<v Speaker 9>for trial in October in London. I'm Une Potspin, Big.

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<v Speaker 3>Day Break, thanks you, and in response to that story,

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<v Speaker 3>as spokeswoman for JP, Morgan told Bloomberg quote, any association

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<v Speaker 3>with Epstein was a mistaken in hindsight, we regret it,

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<v Speaker 3>but we did not help him commit his heinous crimes.

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<v Speaker 3>We would never have continued to do business with him

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<v Speaker 3>if we believed he was engaged in an ongoing sex

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<v Speaker 3>trafficking operation.

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<v Speaker 10>End quote.

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<v Speaker 3>Jess Staley's previously denied wrongdoing and knowledge of Epstein's sexual crimes.

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<v Speaker 3>His lawyer declined to comment on this report. This is

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<v Speaker 3>Bloomberg Time now for a look at some of the

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<v Speaker 3>other stories making news in New York and around the world,

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<v Speaker 3>and for that were joined by Bloomberg's Michael bar Good morning.

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<v Speaker 11>Michael, Good morning. Nathan. President Biden is in Finland, NATO's

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<v Speaker 11>newest member as he raps up his five day trip

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<v Speaker 11>to Europe. Biden, while in Lithuania for the NATO summit,

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<v Speaker 11>says now is the time that allies need to come together.

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<v Speaker 11>After Russia invaded Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 6>Today, our lines remains a bulwark of global security instability,

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<v Speaker 6>as has been for more than seven decades. NATO is stronger,

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<v Speaker 6>more energized, and yes, more united than ever in its history.

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<v Speaker 11>Meanwhile, Turkish President race of Tia Bertawan vowed to speed

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<v Speaker 11>up the ratification of Sweden's membership of NATO when his

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<v Speaker 11>country's parliament returns from a two month summer recess. Funeral

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<v Speaker 11>services take place today for one of the two Newark

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<v Speaker 11>firefighters killed in last week's cargo ship fire at Port Newark.

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<v Speaker 11>This morning's funeral for Augusto Akabub, who was forty five,

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<v Speaker 11>will be held at the Cathedral Basilica of the Sacred

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<v Speaker 11>Heart in Newark. Meanwhile, of viewing will be held at

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<v Speaker 11>the same church tonight for the other firefighter killed. The

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<v Speaker 11>funeral for Wayne Brooks Junior, who was forty nine, is tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 11>Several NATO swept through areas west of Chicago last night.

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<v Speaker 11>McCook Fire Chief David Delish, we have wires down throughout town.

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<v Speaker 11>Poll snapped.

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<v Speaker 1>We lost a couple structures as the roofer's bowling off

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<v Speaker 1>this building.

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<v Speaker 11>A tornado touchdown near Chicago's O'Hare International Airport, disrupting hundreds

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<v Speaker 11>of flights. There were no immediate reports of injuries. After

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<v Speaker 11>hearings on Capitol Hill, the FBI Agents Association issued a

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<v Speaker 11>statement in support of Director Christopher Ray, saying despite he

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<v Speaker 11>did political rhetoric, they will continue to handle themselves with

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<v Speaker 11>professionalism and integrity. Ray, who was appointed by Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 11>test fight on Capitol Hill. He defended his agency against

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<v Speaker 11>Republican attacks.

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<v Speaker 12>Today's FBI leaders reflect the best of our organization, an

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<v Speaker 12>organization that's made up of thirty eight thousand men and

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<v Speaker 12>women who are patriots, professionals, and dedicated public servants.

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<v Speaker 11>And that is the real FBI House. Republicans criticized that

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<v Speaker 11>raise agency targets conservative Americans and was heavy handed in

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<v Speaker 11>the FBI raid at Trump's mower Lago estate. Global News

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<v Speaker 11>twenty four hours a day, powered by more than twenty

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<v Speaker 11>seven hundred journalists and analysts in over one hundred and

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<v Speaker 11>twenty countries. Michael Barr, This is Bloomberg, Nathan.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Michael, time now for our Bloomberg Sports update here

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<v Speaker 3>Sean Stshard, Thanks Dathan.

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<v Speaker 13>Moving closer to that deadline day for Saquon Barkley at

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<v Speaker 13>the Giants by four o'clock Monday, either Barkley has a

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<v Speaker 13>new long term deal or he'll be forced to either

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<v Speaker 13>plan on the franchise tag, make ten million or sit out,

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<v Speaker 13>and there was an ESPN report that he is considering

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<v Speaker 13>doing that at least for the start of the season.

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<v Speaker 13>Barkley said to be looking to make fourteen million a year.

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<v Speaker 13>That's what running backs Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara earned,

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<v Speaker 13>but Giants could have concerns with Barkley's injuries. Last season

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<v Speaker 13>was his first healthy one since he was a rookie.

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<v Speaker 13>Upset at the Gold Cup Soccer and San Diego US

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<v Speaker 13>lost in the semifinals to Panama in penalty kicks, earliest

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<v Speaker 13>US defeat the this event since twenty fifteen. And Wimbledon

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<v Speaker 13>Women's semifinals. Today, two unseated players meet Alena Svidolina, she's

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<v Speaker 13>already beaten four previous Grand Slam winners, and Marquete Andrewsova.

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<v Speaker 13>She's beaten four seeded players she had never before advanced

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<v Speaker 13>past the second round. Arena Sabolenka, who's from Belarus, was

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<v Speaker 13>not allowed to play Wimbledon last year. She won the

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<v Speaker 13>Australian Open earlier. This year, she's only lost one set

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<v Speaker 13>so far, and today's Sabolenka takes on Tunisia's I'm Jeburg. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 13>Carlos Alcaraz advance with Danil Medvedev. He took out the

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<v Speaker 13>American Chris Eubanks, who had a two set to one lead.

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<v Speaker 13>When the Yankees return of the field tomorrow at Colorado,

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<v Speaker 13>they'll have their new hitting coach, Sean Casey.

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<v Speaker 4>I was a player for twelve years. There's not one

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<v Speaker 4>moment where you don't think, men, I'd love to be

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<v Speaker 4>in the pinstripes, like the.

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<v Speaker 6>History, you know, the story franchise, all the players you

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<v Speaker 6>know have an opportunity to wear the pinch stripes is

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<v Speaker 6>just I think it's a dream for any player in

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<v Speaker 6>this industry.

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<v Speaker 13>Casey will try and improve the Yankees poultry team batty

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<v Speaker 13>average of two thirty one. John stash Ellen Bloomberg.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 3>Warren is making a plea to Powell halt the raid hikes.

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<v Speaker 3>The Democratic senator from Massachusetts joined our Joe Matthew and

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<v Speaker 3>Kaylee Lines on Bloomberg's Balance of Power for an exclusive conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>They covered an array of topics, including the Federal Reserve

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<v Speaker 3>Chief Jerome Powell, as well as big banks and the

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<v Speaker 3>Microsoft activision deal. Let's go to part of their conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>If he stops the extraordinary rate increases that he's been doing,

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<v Speaker 5>then we will have made it through this. We have

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<v Speaker 5>great news today that inflation has been caught by two thirds.

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<v Speaker 5>So my message is take yes for an answer, Chair Pal,

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<v Speaker 5>and let's stop with the rate increases. Done well well,

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<v Speaker 5>Senator Warren.

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<v Speaker 14>Of course, monetary policy is only one responsibility of the

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<v Speaker 14>federalers or the other is supervision. I know an issue

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<v Speaker 14>very near and dear to your art, especially in light

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<v Speaker 14>of the bank failures we have seen this year. The

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<v Speaker 14>Vice share of Supervision, Michael Barr, has recently laid out

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<v Speaker 14>proposals to strengthen capital requirements for the largest banks out there.

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<v Speaker 14>Most importantly, are you satisfied with his proposal? And do

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<v Speaker 14>you think he has the authority within the Federal Reserve

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<v Speaker 14>to see it through?

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<v Speaker 5>So let me invert those The answer is, he clearly

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<v Speaker 5>has the authority to be able to put in higher

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<v Speaker 5>standards and to be able to enforce those higher standards.

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<v Speaker 5>And the second part is bar is headed in the

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<v Speaker 5>right direction. Is it enough? No, we still have a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of problems. We have too much concentration in the

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<v Speaker 5>banking industry. We have more too big defailed banks than

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<v Speaker 5>we did back when the economy crashed in two thousand

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<v Speaker 5>and eight, and the two big defailed banks are bigger

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<v Speaker 5>than they were back then. So you know, we're not

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<v Speaker 5>out of the woods yet. But I feel a lot

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<v Speaker 5>better when I read Michael Barr talking about how we

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<v Speaker 5>need to tighten down on bank regulation.

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<v Speaker 15>Go Michael, Senator, you held a hearing on bank insolidation today.

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<v Speaker 15>Understanding your concerns about the big banks, as you just mentioned,

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<v Speaker 15>too big to fail? How about small and medium sized banks?

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<v Speaker 15>Should they be allowed to get married so they can

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<v Speaker 15>better compete?

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<v Speaker 5>So the problem that we have faced is of course,

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<v Speaker 5>more and more concentration at the top, and always keep

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<v Speaker 5>in mind the implications of that. One is obviously, too

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<v Speaker 5>big to fail puts our entire economy at risk. But

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<v Speaker 5>the other half is to remember that it is these

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<v Speaker 5>small banks that are the ones that actually do the

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<v Speaker 5>small business lending, and that drives our economy and it

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<v Speaker 5>also drives employment. That these small businesses are the engine

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<v Speaker 5>of our economy, and anything that wipes those banks out

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<v Speaker 5>is bad idea. Finding ways to keep those banks open

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<v Speaker 5>as independent or allied banks, I'm in favor of that.

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<v Speaker 5>But the problem we've got is the big banks are

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<v Speaker 5>the ones who come in snap up the little banks. Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>they make a handful of promises about how nothing will change,

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<v Speaker 5>and then those banks disappear, so that we now end up,

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<v Speaker 5>for example, in a third of all rural counties in America,

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<v Speaker 5>there is no small independent bank. There's nobody there who

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<v Speaker 5>actually understands the local economy and who is willing to

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<v Speaker 5>get to know the business that wants to borrow that

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<v Speaker 5>money and sees that as their job in banking. That's

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<v Speaker 5>not where the giants are. They don't do the small

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<v Speaker 5>business lending. And that's the concern that I have about concentration.

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<v Speaker 14>So we know you have concerns about concentration and concerns

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<v Speaker 14>about some other issues that we do want to get

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<v Speaker 14>with you. Senator first though, if I could ask you

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<v Speaker 14>about a hearing you in prior to today. You have

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<v Speaker 14>some concerns about Senator Tommy Tubberville in the blockade he

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<v Speaker 14>has put on the promotions of members of the military.

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<v Speaker 14>Given those concerns about how that affects military readiness in

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<v Speaker 14>the US military families, what do you think you can

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<v Speaker 14>do to blunt that impact? What workarounds do you see?

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<v Speaker 5>So this is the problem we've got right now. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>I am the chair of the Subcommittee on Personnel on

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<v Speaker 5>the Senate Armed Services Committee, so I'm there on front

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<v Speaker 5>lines hearing from the families who now are in a

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<v Speaker 5>position saying where do we register our kids for school.

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<v Speaker 5>I've heard from families who say, we've already sold our

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<v Speaker 5>house because we thought we were moving this summer so

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<v Speaker 5>that our active duty service member was going to be

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<v Speaker 5>deployed somewhere else around the country or around the world.

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<v Speaker 5>Profound impact on families, profound impact on our military readiness.

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<v Speaker 5>Are former Secretaries of Defense, our current Secretary of Defense.

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<v Speaker 5>Our former secretaries of Defense who are Republican appointees have

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<v Speaker 5>all said this undermines military readiness. But here's the problem.

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<v Speaker 5>The Democrats can't stop Tommy Tuberville from what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 5>It is the Republicans who need to do this. The

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<v Speaker 5>Republicans need to say, you are a member of our party,

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<v Speaker 5>you are putting national security at risk, You are insulting

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<v Speaker 5>and undermining military families in this country. Cut it out,

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<v Speaker 5>because that's the only way we can unlock this hold

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<v Speaker 5>and actually move through what is now literally hundreds of

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<v Speaker 5>military promotions and assignments that are just dead in the

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<v Speaker 5>water at this point.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, we'd like to stay in touch with you on

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<v Speaker 15>that story, Senator, with regard to your committee position, it's

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<v Speaker 15>important to us and our viewers and listeners. I do

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<v Speaker 15>want to ask you about something and some news that

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<v Speaker 15>you and your colleagues are making today, releasing a report

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<v Speaker 15>and calling on federal officials to investigate tech giants and

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<v Speaker 15>namely Meta, the company behind Facebook, for somehow colluding. Maybe

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<v Speaker 15>you can be more specific than I with the major

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<v Speaker 15>tax preparers like H and R Block taking millions of

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<v Speaker 15>people's personal and private information and giving it to Facebook,

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<v Speaker 15>presumably to sell ads. If this is true, Senator, this

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<v Speaker 15>is outrageous. Who's going to go to jail for this?

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<v Speaker 5>So you ask exactly the right question. People went to

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<v Speaker 5>tax preparers and, by the way, paid them to prepare

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<v Speaker 5>their taxes, and then it turns around that the tax

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<v Speaker 5>preparers gave access to all of this private information about

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<v Speaker 5>names and dependents and whether or not you had medical expenses,

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<v Speaker 5>all kinds of information to companies like Meta. Now we

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<v Speaker 5>did the independent investigation. I did this with other Senators,

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<v Speaker 5>and we send it over to the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 5>because there's federal law on this that no one is

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<v Speaker 5>permitted to share tax information without the permission of the taxpayer,

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<v Speaker 5>and I feel pretty clear that these tax companies did

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<v Speaker 5>not get that permission. But I want to take this

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<v Speaker 5>one more turn if I can. These are the same

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<v Speaker 5>tax preparers who right now are lobbying right here in

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<v Speaker 5>Washington trying to make sure that the IRS program to

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<v Speaker 5>permit free filing, to let people just go to the IRS,

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<v Speaker 5>go to a website, and if you've got pretty simple taxes,

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<v Speaker 5>fill it out on the website and instantaneously you're done.

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<v Speaker 5>Letting people do that. The tax preparers are trying to

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<v Speaker 5>block the irs from doing that. Why because they break

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<v Speaker 5>in the money every time somebody has to spend two

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<v Speaker 5>hundred bucks or four hundred bucks or six hundred bucks

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<v Speaker 5>to get one of them to prepare the taxes. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>this really is back to that fundamental question whose side

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<v Speaker 5>is government on and the taxpayers want government on their side.

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<v Speaker 5>We're trying to get the government on the side of

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<v Speaker 5>the taxpayers so they can do free filing and not

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<v Speaker 5>have to worry about these companies that are giving their

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<v Speaker 5>data a way to outfits like Meta.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, as we talk about these companies, these large technology companies,

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<v Speaker 14>other news came this week and that Lina CON's FTC

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<v Speaker 14>was Delta blow in court on the Microsoft Activision Blizzard deal.

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<v Speaker 14>Are you concerned, Senator, that the courts are going to

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<v Speaker 14>steiny the efforts of competition regulators in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I think.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a bad decision. At the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 5>the judge believed of Meta when they said, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to do just fine and made a bunch

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<v Speaker 5>of promises down the line for what they're going to do.

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<v Speaker 5>That doesn't change the fact that the merger itself is

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<v Speaker 5>not legal we have an opinion from the judge. I

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<v Speaker 5>want to commend the FTC for taking on hard cases,

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<v Speaker 5>taking on big companies, taking on cases that in the

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<v Speaker 5>past often.

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<v Speaker 7>Just slid through.

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<v Speaker 5>Look at our clear violations of the law. I applaud

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<v Speaker 5>what the FTC has done, and I say stay after it.

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<v Speaker 5>Their job is to get out there and enforce the laws.

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<v Speaker 5>And if sometimes a court just wants to head in

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<v Speaker 5>a different direction, it doesn't change the fact that the

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<v Speaker 5>FTC is right to promote competition and to enforce the

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<v Speaker 5>law as it is written.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 15>Lastly, then Senator, maybe we'll take it another step even

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<v Speaker 15>further from there. As we talk about the idea of

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<v Speaker 15>tech companies combining, or any companies for that matter, whether

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<v Speaker 15>it's in the defense space or anywhere else that you

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<v Speaker 15>have expressed concerns about. Is anyone talking about breaking up

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<v Speaker 15>big tech if they are also too big to fail,

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<v Speaker 15>whether it's Google or another company that you might have

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<v Speaker 15>in mind. We've been down this road before with the

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<v Speaker 15>aforementioned Microsoft.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, I think that talking about breaking up

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<v Speaker 5>these companies is right, and particularly breaking off pieces of

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<v Speaker 5>this company. You know, my favorite example here is Amazon.

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<v Speaker 5>Look at what Amazon does. It runs the platform on

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<v Speaker 5>which buyers and sellers come together, collects all that information,

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<v Speaker 5>and then becomes a competitor on the platform that runs

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<v Speaker 5>its own Amazon businesses, sometimes under the Amazon label and

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes under labels that nobody would ever figure out that

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<v Speaker 5>that's Amazon. To me, it's kind of like you could

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<v Speaker 5>be an umpire in baseball, or you can have a team,

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<v Speaker 5>but you don't get to do both at the same time.

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<v Speaker 5>And so there's an example for me, those two should

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<v Speaker 5>be broken apart. Concentration in industry after industry after industry

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<v Speaker 5>is a threat to our economy. It is a threat

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<v Speaker 5>to innovation and ultimately often leads to price gouging, whether

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<v Speaker 5>it's consumers or the government. You mentioned the defense industry.

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<v Speaker 5>Over the space of twenty years in America, we've gone

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<v Speaker 5>from having fifty five competitors for those defense contracts down

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<v Speaker 5>to five. And you know what they're looking for, even

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<v Speaker 5>more consolidation. When a little business starts up, they do

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<v Speaker 5>one of two things. They either smash it or they

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<v Speaker 5>buy it up and put it into one of the

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<v Speaker 5>big ones. And that's how it is that the United

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<v Speaker 5>States government ends up paying three hundred and eighty five

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<v Speaker 5>dollars for some valve that costs fifteen dollars off the shelf.

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<v Speaker 5>We pay, and we pay through the nose. For concentration

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<v Speaker 5>in the defense industry, in the banking industry, in big tech,

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<v Speaker 5>in big pharma, and seeing the FTC, the DOJ Antitrust Division,

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<v Speaker 5>and what we should be doing here in Congress is

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<v Speaker 5>promoting competition. I believe in markets. I believe in the

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<v Speaker 5>power of markets, but they only work if we enforce

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<v Speaker 5>the rules that cape competitors going rather than monopolists.

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