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Speaker 1: Big breaking news to start the show today, and that

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Speaker 1: includes the Saudi Crown Prince is now saying he is

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Speaker 1: working to increase Saudi investments in the US to not

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Speaker 1: one billion, not one hundred billion, but one trillion dollars.

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Speaker 1: The President United States of America making this historic trip,

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Speaker 1: saying it's time for US to work with our allies,

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Speaker 1: and he says it's time for the US to remove

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Speaker 1: sanctions on Syria as well.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Syrians have endured brutal and crippling sanctions over the past

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Speaker 1: fourteen years, and it's time to end them, is what President

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Speaker 1: Trump announced while in Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 2: Quote. I will be ordering the.

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Speaker 1: Secession of sanctions against Syrian order to give them a

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Speaker 1: chance at greatness. That is what the President said during

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Speaker 1: the press conference. Trump said Syrians have seen so much

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Speaker 1: misery and death during a years long civil war. He

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Speaker 1: also agreed to end the sanctions against Syria at the

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Speaker 1: urging of the Saudi Crown prints and the Turkish President

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Speaker 1: because there needs to be quote more stability in the

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Speaker 1: region now. The sanctions targeted the Hassad regime and served

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Speaker 1: as an important function, Trump said, but now it's time

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Speaker 1: for Syria to shine obviously, as Hasad has fled the

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Speaker 1: country and is now taking up safe haven in Russia.

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Speaker 1: The US designated Syria as a state sponsor of terrorism

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Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine, imposed sanctions on the nation in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and four and in twenty eleven following the

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Speaker 1: former Syrian president Assad's efforts to end anti government protests.

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Speaker 1: Sanctions imposed by the United States deprived Syria of access

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Speaker 1: to global financial systems and added sanctions against the Assad

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Speaker 1: The Biden administration in November sanctioned a Syrian conglomerate after

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Speaker 1: accusing it of using ul revenue to a RAN's Islamic

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Speaker 1: Revolutionary Guard and COUD forces, as well as Huthi militants

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Speaker 1: for attacking US forces in the Middle East. Syria has

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Speaker 1: endured civil war, terrorism attacks, and secretary of warfare that

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Speaker 1: included the Islamic State taking control of parts of the

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Speaker 1: nation in twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 2: And beyond Western powers.

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Speaker 1: Afterwards, undertook a bombing campaign to eliminate ISIS and restore

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Speaker 1: full power to quote Syria. Asad regime lost power in

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Speaker 1: December when a militia took control of the Syrian capital

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Speaker 1: of Damascus and other parts of the country. This happened

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Speaker 1: mainly because the money wasn't flowing in anymore from Russia.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't handle it because of their war they'd started

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Speaker 1: and their invasion of Ukraine. Now Syria's new president he

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Speaker 1: was a former member of al Qaeda, who says he

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Speaker 1: has reformed his ways just so you know. Yes, it's

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Speaker 1: complicated in the Middle East, and the fall of Assage

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Speaker 1: regime prompted the easing of some US sanctions, but not

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Speaker 1: all of them. The US Secretary of State, Marco Rubio,

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Speaker 1: will meet with Syria's new foreign minister in Turkey later

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Speaker 1: this week. Trump also said to work out details. This

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Speaker 1: announcement marks the presence first of four days in the

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Speaker 2: He's also scheduled to visit the United Air of Emirates

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Speaker 1: Now back to what the President had to say at

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Speaker 1: this visit. At the stop on this this Middle East tour,

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Speaker 1: Trump also talked about Iran and saying that Iran can

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Speaker 1: have a much brighter future, but we will never allow

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Speaker 1: them to threaten America and or our allies. He said this,

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Speaker 1: making it clear as he's in the middle East. We're

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Speaker 3: But with that said, Iran can have a much brighter future,

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Speaker 3: but will never allow America and his allies to be

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Speaker 3: threatened with terrorism or nuclear attack. The choices there is

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Speaker 3: We want them to be a wonderful, safe, great country,

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Speaker 3: but they cannot have a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 4: This is an.

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Speaker 3: Offer that will not last forever. The time is right

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Speaker 3: now for them to choose right now. We don't have

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Speaker 3: a lot of time to wait.

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Speaker 1: We don't have a lot of time to wait. That

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Speaker 1: is part of the warning. Clearly the President wanted to

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Speaker 2: The President also talked about our enemies.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there are enemies around the world, and certainly there

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Speaker 1: at the US Saudi Investment Forum in Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm here today not merely to condemn the past

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Speaker 4: More hopeful future.

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Speaker 3: As I've shown repeatedly, I am willing to end past

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Speaker 3: conflicts and forge new partnerships. For better and more stable world,

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Speaker 3: in having permanent enemies. I am different than a lot

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Speaker 3: of people think. I don't like permanent enemies. But sometimes

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Speaker 4: Enemies get you motivated.

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Speaker 3: In fact, some of the closest friends of the United

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Speaker 3: and now they're our friends and our allies the present

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Speaker 3: giving a pathway for a future there that even some

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Speaker 3: of the media are now saying sounds pretty nice.

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Speaker 1: Fox Business Channel talking about this, saying the present's Middle

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Speaker 1: East plan is one that we should all embrace.

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Speaker 5: The President will never get credit for this, but that

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Speaker 5: was an amazing speech.

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Speaker 2: He threw down.

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Speaker 5: The gauntlet where he had to, particularly with Iran, and

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Speaker 5: at the same time he painted a picture of possibility

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Speaker 5: for the Middle East. I've never heard any other president

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Speaker 5: paint I mean, that was truly extraordinary. He made Look

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Speaker 5: he's such a good salesman. He said to the Middle East,

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Speaker 5: you want to lead in business and technology and culture

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Speaker 5: and commerce. Those are the exact words he used. We

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Speaker 5: will do it with you. We are in a golden age.

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Speaker 5: You can have a golden age. There's only one person

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Speaker 5: on the globe. There's only one person who could give

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Speaker 5: and it was him that was totally extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: You never was talking about the follow through. I can't

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Speaker 5: What kind of fallow through comes from this.

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Speaker 2: Now, don't worry the rest of the press.

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Speaker 1: They're going to be angry over the President and what

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Speaker 1: the President's trying to have peace in the Middle East

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Speaker 1: and get this job done. The President also saying this

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Speaker 1: about God. Listen carefully how this will play as well.

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Speaker 2: In the Middle East East.

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Speaker 4: I believe it.

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Speaker 3: Is God's job to sit in judgment. My job to

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Speaker 3: defend America and to promote the fundamental interest of stability, prosperity,

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Speaker 2: That's what I really want to do.

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Speaker 3: I will never hesitate to wield American power if it's

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Speaker 1: It's pretty clear the President saying the terrorists in the

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Speaker 1: years the Biden administration. You're flat out wrong. I don't

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Speaker 1: need permanent enemies. I don't like permanent enemies. But if

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Speaker 1: you are going to screw with America or American interests, our.

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Speaker 2: Allies, there will be hell to pay.

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Speaker 1: The President also talking more about peace, saying he's ready

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Speaker 1: to stand and help Lebanon create a future as well

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Speaker 1: with an economic development.

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Speaker 3: My administration stand ready to help Lebanon create a future

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Speaker 3: of economic development and peace with its.

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Speaker 2: Neighbors, with its neighbors.

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Speaker 1: So you listen to this president and everything that he

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Speaker 1: just said there, why on earth would anyone in the

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Speaker 1: media criticize this right Like, why would anybody say this

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Speaker 1: is a bad thing? Well, MSNBC had no problem attacking

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Speaker 1: this trip and Israel when they said this moments after

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Speaker 6: Eddie, un spokesperson on Monday, did not mince words. And

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Speaker 6: I'm going to quote here this is not a natural disaster,

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Speaker 6: but a human made catastrophe that the world should not allow.

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Speaker 6: We have seen pictures images of children even today carrying

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Speaker 6: all their belongings through the rubble, a tiny baby in

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Speaker 6: a rainbow jumper that was killed by an airstrike, and

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Speaker 6: then there was a child this is today with one leg,

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Speaker 6: bit of food. These images are so heartbreaking, so chilling.

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Speaker 6: They raise the question Hamas, Yes, Hamas is responsible. Israel

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Speaker 6: has made a decision for the blockade, But what is

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Speaker 6: the responsibility of other governments? What is the responsibility of

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Speaker 6: us all when children and innocence are starving to death?

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Speaker 7: You know, it's it's a difficult question on a certain

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Speaker 7: countries across the across the world needs to just simply

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Speaker 7: live up to international law. What Israel is doing in

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Speaker 7: relation to Gaza, the blockade that is cutting off food

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Speaker 7: and water is illegal. It's not sanctioned by international law.

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Speaker 7: And I think if countries understand that and live up

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Speaker 7: of that law, they would hold Israel accountable. I want

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Speaker 7: to just acknowledge what the Rabbi is doing, what he's written,

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Speaker 7: ideals and faith that you are. So it's within that

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Speaker 7: tradition that he's bringing the basic tenets of Judaism to

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Speaker 7: the risk that he's taken.

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Speaker 4: That he's taken.

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Speaker 7: I think also for me, I just want to say,

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Speaker 7: I want to ask a basic question. How many dead

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Speaker 7: Palestinians are needed for the state of Israel.

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Speaker 1: How many dead Palestinians are needed for the state of Israel.

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Speaker 1: That is the anti Semitic propaganda that MSNBC put out

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Speaker 2: And if you don't believe me, let me.

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Speaker 8: If you notice anything the mega Republicans don't like they

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Speaker 1: To be clear, the monthly job reports and the data

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Speaker 1: The results are staggering a drop of six hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: Believe, added three hundred ninety eight thousand non farm payrolls

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Speaker 2: And the latest economic data.

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Speaker 1: Vindicated the American people's judgment that no number of platitudes

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Speaker 1: now we have the data to prove it. Now, I

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Speaker 1: That's my gut here, I doubt any of them will.

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Speaker 1: Joining me is a Senator from Tennessee, Marsha Blackburn Center.

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Speaker 1: Nice to have you on, and let's start with what

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's getting it done.

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Speaker 9: Yes he is. He is delivering results. And when you

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Speaker 1: You look at this president. It's not just on trade deals,

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Speaker 1: by the way, we're going to make prescription drug costs

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Speaker 1: giving us favored nation status on these prices. That's just

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Speaker 9: And of course the MFN issue with the pharmaceuticals is

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Speaker 9: We have five percent of the world's population, but we

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Speaker 9: subsidizing these negotiated prices in other countries. Now also getting

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Speaker 1: to help all Americans. It should be a non political issue,

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Speaker 1: but it does seem like the Democratic Party is completely

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Speaker 1: controlled by big pharma and their investment in each one

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Speaker 1: of their candidates.

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Speaker 9: Well, it does appear to be that way, and when

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Speaker 9: you look at it, I think that it's easy to

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Speaker 9: see why people feel that. But reigning in the PBMs,

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Speaker 9: I'm telling you that I've gotten a lot bipartisan support

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Speaker 9: on my legislation. It is moving through Finance Committee.

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Speaker 2: It brings me down a little bit when you say PBMs.

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Speaker 1: I want people to understand it because it seems complicated,

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Speaker 1: especially if you don't know. So can you explain exactly

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Speaker 1: how this legislation would work. I think it's important.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely. When Bill Clinton was in office and they were

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Speaker 9: looking at trying to nationalize healthcare, and of course we

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Speaker 9: had the version of hillary Care in Tennessee, which was Tencare,

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Speaker 9: they came up with this idea that they would have

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Speaker 9: a pharmacy benefit manager who would work between the pharmaceutical

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Speaker 9: company and the insurance company and the patient. And what

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Speaker 9: they would do for the insurance company is go to

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Speaker 9: the pharmaceutical companies and negotiate prices. Well. As the rebates

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Speaker 9: got bigger, these PBMs got bigger, and they started saying

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Speaker 9: to the insurance companies, hey, we'll take the rebate and

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Speaker 9: we will split it with you. Well, the poor patient,

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Speaker 9: those of us that are going to the pharmacy counter.

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Speaker 9: We're still playing the full note on this. And it's

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Speaker 9: why you've seen cops go up. It's also why you've

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Speaker 9: seen some prescriptions be disallowed by your insurance plan. Why

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Speaker 9: were they doing that because the PBM says, Okay, let's

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Speaker 9: go over here to another company with a similar pharmaceutical

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Speaker 9: and let's do business there because we get a bigger rebate.

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Speaker 9: So it becomes a profit motive motive and it puts

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Speaker 9: profit at the center and not the patient at the center.

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Speaker 9: So my legislation would require them to move these PBMs

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Speaker 9: to a service fee and it would be a flat rate.

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Speaker 9: And also it requires them to use any willing pharmacy.

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Speaker 9: Now intend see we've had one hundred and twenty pharmacies

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Speaker 9: close over the last decade. These are independent pharmacies. Many

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Speaker 9: times it is the only healthcare access point in some

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Speaker 9: of our rural or underserved communities, and the PBMs have

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Speaker 9: driven them out of business because they will not put

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Speaker 9: them in the formulary. We've had research from the Tennessee

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Speaker 9: Department of Commerce and Insurance that shows even one of

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Speaker 9: the PBMs in our state elevated the price on five

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Speaker 9: hundred and fifty different drugs, did what they call spread

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Speaker 9: pricing to the tune of thirty million dollars and been

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Speaker 9: also refused to pay these pharmacies within the seven day

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Speaker 9: pay period. So it makes it hard for these independent

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Speaker 9: and small pharmacies to do business. My legislation would do

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Speaker 9: would be to end that and say any pharmacy that

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Speaker 9: is willing to participate with a plan, you have got

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Speaker 9: to let them into that plan and let them provide

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Speaker 9: for those patients. And it would cap the fee. That

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Speaker 9: would mean they can't get that rebate. It would cap

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Speaker 9: them at a service fee and disallow the rebate.

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Speaker 2: So what does this look like moving forward?

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Speaker 1: And what are people that are listening to advocate for

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Speaker 1: who do they need to be calling.

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Speaker 9: Well, what they need to do is be contacting some

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Speaker 9: of the House members and encourage them to support it.

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Speaker 9: They need to be contacting their senators to support pharmacy

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Speaker 9: benefit manager reconstruction and reform. And you know, as I said,

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Speaker 9: we're raining them in. I would like to remove them

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Speaker 9: as a part of the marketplace. We don't need the

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Speaker 9: middleman and on this, and we don't need somebody unelected

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Speaker 9: bureaucrats who are out here changing what people can have

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Speaker 9: access to when their physician has already told them what

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Speaker 9: they need to be taking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Great point.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you finally about something else you're

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Speaker 1: focusing on right now, and it deals with after school programs.

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Speaker 2: Talk a little bit about that.

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Speaker 9: Yes, indeed, this is a legislation that Catherine Cortes Masto

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Speaker 9: and I started pushing forward last year, didn't get it

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Speaker 9: across the finish line. This would be a grant program

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Speaker 9: that's the Department of Defense for after school programs in

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Speaker 9: communities so that kids have somewhere to go in the

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Speaker 9: afternoon before parents get home from work. What we have

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Speaker 9: learned is that with juvenile crime, the bulk of that,

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Speaker 9: the majority of it is committed between two o'clock in

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Speaker 9: the afternoon and six o'clock. That's when they're out of

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Speaker 9: school and mom and dad are not home from work.

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Speaker 9: And then we've also found that that is when gangs

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Speaker 9: are recruiting these kids to be members of gangs. Now,

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Speaker 9: we have some cities like Memphis who have seen an

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Speaker 9: astronomical increase in juvenile crime, and this is why Senator

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Speaker 9: Cortes Masco and I decided to do this bill and

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Speaker 9: to do these grants so that community organizations churches, boys

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Speaker 9: and girls clubs, thinks of that nature, can have sports

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Speaker 9: and science, stem arts, tutoring, mentoring programs in the afternoon

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Speaker 9: where kids can participate in these programs and not be

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Speaker 9: approached by these gang members who are trying to recruit

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Speaker 9: them to carry out carjackings and smash and grabs and robberies.

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Speaker 9: These gangs members know that if you get a juvenile

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Speaker 9: who is going to juvenile court, they're probably not going

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Speaker 9: to keep them. The penalties and the sentences are going

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Speaker 9: to be much lighter, and then they recruit these individuals

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Speaker 9: into gangs and it drives up the crime rate. And

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Speaker 9: in areas many cities we've seen the crime rate and

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Speaker 9: the juvenile crime rate increase as much as twenty to

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Speaker 9: two hundred percent. So this is something that as we've

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Speaker 9: looked at how we address this issue with the gangs,

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Speaker 9: with juvenile crime, that we think this will be a help.

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Speaker 9: Last year, when we had this pushed forward, the Memphis

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Speaker 9: City Council did a resolution supporting this initiative. This is

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Speaker 9: a bipartisan initiative. We think it is a step in

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Speaker 9: the right direction. It helps support law enforcement, and it

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Speaker 9: helps support children and families with programs that we would

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Speaker 9: be able to make available at no cost to families.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible.

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Speaker 1: Final question for you, and I know you got to go,

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Speaker 1: but I want to get it deals with this issue.

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised at just the amount of hypocrisy from

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Speaker 1: the media and the left. They looked the other way

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Speaker 1: as masses of men crossed illegally all over the globe

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Speaker 1: in the US everywhere for the last four years under

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration, literally millions coming in. And now the

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Speaker 1: media is furious that Donald Trump has allowed a fuse

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Speaker 1: and this is no exaggeration a few dozen South Africans

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Speaker 1: to come to the US legally as refugees. But they

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Speaker 1: said nothing about Arizona, for example, or Texas or New

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Speaker 1: Mexico when it was being overrun by thousands of African

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Speaker 1: aliens crossing illegally every day.

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Speaker 2: In December of twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 9: The hypocrisy is it is a stand and when you

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Speaker 9: look at the fact that ICE has been working in

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Speaker 9: Tennessee and around Middle Tennessee, and my understanding is they

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Speaker 9: have had about one hundred and forty apprehensions and detentions.

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Speaker 9: These are individuals that are gang members, Trende are Agua

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Speaker 9: MS thirteen, which we have declared as a country that

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Speaker 9: these are foreign terrorist organizations. You've got murderers, rapists, child rapists, pedophiles,

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Speaker 9: child predators that are included in these numbers. And the

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Speaker 9: Democrats are out here saying don't lock them up, don't

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Speaker 9: deport them, and trying to say these people who have

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Speaker 9: illegally entered the country, trying to act as if they

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Speaker 9: have constitutional rights that citizens have when they have illegal

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Speaker 9: entered the country with is a crime. And then they

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Speaker 9: have committed crime against our fellow Tennesseeans and have robbed

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Speaker 9: people of their property or who have dangered them or

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Speaker 9: injured them. Are in the child rapist you know, trying

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Speaker 9: to defend these people. I haven't talked to many folks

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Speaker 9: that want these people living in their neighborhoods. They are

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Speaker 9: criminals and they want them off the street. They want

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Speaker 9: to see them locked up, and they don't want them

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Speaker 9: back in their neighborhoods.

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Speaker 2: Amen to that center. Always a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on and we will certainly keep

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Speaker 1: people update on this legislation you're working on.

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Speaker 2: Well done, you got it.

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