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Speaker 2: Lewis Riddick on the call for Syracuse win at Clemson.

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Speaker 2: He's got Florida State Virginia coming up on Friday on

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Speaker 2: the mother Ship, and then he'll be doing one of

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Speaker 2: the Monday night games Jets and the Dolphins, also on ESPN. So, Lewis,

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Speaker 2: what I love about you as an analyst when I'm

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Speaker 2: listening to you call the Syracuse Clemson game is you

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Speaker 2: don't hide your distaste for something when something is bad

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Speaker 2: or something bothers you. You don't try to mask that

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Speaker 2: You've grown sometimes. I appreciate that. So very enjoyable listening

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Speaker 2: to you guys do that game. At what point did

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Speaker 2: you think Syracuse was a better team than Clemson.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if they're well, let's just say

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Speaker 3: this one through once to say eighty. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if they're a better team in terms of the individual players.

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Speaker 3: I think Clemson is very talented as far as the

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Speaker 3: kind of kids they all on that roster.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that makes it even worse exactly exactly.

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Speaker 3: That's my point. That's my point. I think right out

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Speaker 3: of the gate, you could see that Syracuse had a

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Speaker 3: different mentality, and the DEVO told us that when we

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Speaker 3: talked to him, said, really, this game is about a mentality.

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Speaker 3: It's about how our guys or are our guys going

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Speaker 3: to go ahead and play up to their potential? Are

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Speaker 3: they going to accept the challenge? Are they going to

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Speaker 3: be sick and tired of being sick and tired of

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Speaker 3: losing the two games that they lost to Tech into

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Speaker 3: the LSU, which are basically like one possession type games

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Speaker 3: where they could have won the game. And now are

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Speaker 3: they gonna rise up? And early in the game you

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Speaker 3: saw they weren't ready for it, and Syracuse was like,

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Speaker 3: guess what, We're pulling out all the stops. Fran Brown said,

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Speaker 3: we're pulling out all the stops. We're putting the ball

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Speaker 3: up in the air. We're gonna put it up to

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Speaker 3: our sixty three six to four wide receivers we think

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Speaker 3: has an advantage. We're gonna have surprise on side kicks

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Speaker 3: or run the football better. And we've run it in

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Speaker 3: the past two years right at the heart of your

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Speaker 3: team where you supposedly had two or maybe three first

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Speaker 3: rounders on your defensive line, and we're gonna smack them

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Speaker 3: right in the mouth, and how are you gonna respond?

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Speaker 3: How are you gonna respond? Clemson? And right out of

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Speaker 3: the gate, I was sitting there going They're not And

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Speaker 3: how many people picked them on game day? How many

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Speaker 3: people picked them? Probably in our own crew, to think

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Speaker 3: this is a get right game for Clemson. They're gonna

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Speaker 3: blow Syracuse out. Syracuse struggled with yukon. Syracuse got beat

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Speaker 3: up by Tennessee in Week one. There's no way they

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Speaker 3: can play with them. I'm telling you, as you know

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Speaker 3: you've covered sports for a long time. Football in particular

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Speaker 3: is about an attitude and the mentality. And there's something

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Speaker 3: wrong with the attitude, the mindset, and the mentality of

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Speaker 3: the players at Clemson right now. For whatever reason, they

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Speaker 3: are just not able to dial in and maintain consistent performance.

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Speaker 3: In Fran Brown, you better give the guy some respect.

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Speaker 3: After the season he had last year, cos in that

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Speaker 3: team to Tenant two and they give him the one

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Speaker 3: of the hardest schedules in all of FBS this year,

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Speaker 3: and now he comes out and goes down to Death

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Speaker 3: Valley and wins there like they won. That guy is

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Speaker 3: for real, man, They are for real.

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Speaker 2: Syracuse is on the up and up, These things don't

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Speaker 2: happen overnight. Mike Gundhy didn't forget how to coach football

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Speaker 2: at Oklahoma State and Dabbo didn't forget to how to

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Speaker 2: coach at Clemson. But it doesn't feel like they are

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Speaker 2: caught up with the times of college football. Saban talked

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Speaker 2: about this. This drove him out of the game. You

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Speaker 2: gotta be nil, you gotta be transferred portal friendly, and

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Speaker 2: you know these are Hall of Fame coaches that are

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Speaker 2: getting embarrassed.

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Speaker 3: You know what. Look, I love Nick to death. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Obviously the guy taught me basically everything I know about

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Speaker 3: football him and Built. I don't necessarily agree that you

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Speaker 3: have to be like gung ho, like one hundred percent

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Speaker 3: into the nil transfer portal arena in order to compete. Look, obviously,

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Speaker 3: when you look at a team like Florida State that

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Speaker 3: revamps their offensive line, revamps both coordinators, and all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden they go from a what were they two

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Speaker 3: I saw the beginning of that slide last year and

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Speaker 3: we did their game against Boston College to now this

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Speaker 3: year being the seventhentths break team in the country. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna see on Friday. And they did it in large

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Speaker 3: part by getting a new quarterback, getting a new offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 3: Dadiel's got good players. You know, they got Will held

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Speaker 3: out of the transfer portal from Perdue. Who's their best

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Speaker 3: defensive player this year? But Peter Woods, TJ. Parker, these guys,

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Speaker 3: Sammy Brown, Wade Wood As Bryan westco these dudes are

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Speaker 3: all four and five star kids. They're all four and

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Speaker 3: five star guys who were good player. There's something, though,

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Speaker 3: that doesn't connect, that doesn't that they're not able to

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Speaker 3: get across to these guys as far as playing consistently

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Speaker 3: for sixty minutes and from week to week. There's just

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Speaker 3: something weird. Look Bill Bill just revamped his entire roster.

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Speaker 3: Belichick down in North Carolina. Right, they're all into transfer

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Speaker 3: It's not working for them. It's not all of a

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Speaker 3: think what they're what people are saying though, is maybe

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Speaker 3: Dabo could be a little bit more selective and a

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Speaker 3: back into the national title contention picture. And I don't

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Speaker 3: disagree with that. But I don't think that all of

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Speaker 3: like hammer him for him and say, well, you know what,

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Speaker 3: he's just lost it because he doesn't want to play

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Speaker 3: in the transfer a portal. Nick also has been the

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Speaker 3: person who has said this, if you you can go

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Speaker 3: and you can throw a bunch of money at these

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Speaker 4: Are there any great change in college football?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there's great there there. Look, I

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Speaker 3: to be there in the end. We'll we'll we'll see

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Speaker 3: what Ohio State looks like when it's all said and done.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there's great teams. I don't know

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Speaker 3: right now that it's going that it's going to make

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Speaker 3: uh the CFP very very interesting and very very hotly contested,

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Speaker 3: good as season as I can remember.

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Speaker 2: Recently, Lewis Riddick to the mother Ship. He's got the Jets,

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Speaker 2: Dolphins next Monday night. He'll have Virginia Florida State coming

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Speaker 2: up on Friday night. Let me turn our attention to

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Speaker 2: the NFL. The Jackson Dart Do you play him? Do you?

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Speaker 4: Easy?

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Speaker 2: They looked uninspired against the Chiefs, and I'm just not

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Speaker 2: sure when is a good time to bring in a

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Speaker 3: Now it's tough. Look, I respect Russ, I really do.

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Speaker 3: I respect his entire career, his process, how he's conducted himself.

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Speaker 3: All that I think obviously we have to kind of

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Speaker 3: Dallas is defensively, we saw it yesterday. They're going to struggle.

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Speaker 3: They'll be the worst defense in the league this year.

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Speaker 3: We also saw what Russ looks like against the championship

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Speaker 3: couldn't understand some decision making. He was that that that

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Speaker 3: you saw on display from him late in that football game,

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Speaker 3: throwing the football out of the back of the end.

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Speaker 3: It's like, Rus, what are you doing? Like, You're not

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Speaker 3: even giving you guys a chance? What do you like?

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Speaker 3: Come on, I don't I don't believe in the whole

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Speaker 3: you ruin quarterbacks by playing them too early in particular, Well,

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Speaker 3: let me put it this way. It's a case by

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Speaker 3: Maybe a lot of people thought you would ruin Drake

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Speaker 3: He inspired the football team. Okay, you thought, you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe in Washington, jayde Daniels, can he handle being the

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Speaker 3: He took them all the way to the NFC title game.

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Speaker 3: I think Jackson played a lot of football Ole miss.

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Speaker 3: He was very well schooled at an SEC school. He

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Speaker 3: infuses that football team with with really with confidence. You

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Speaker 3: You gotta be careful. You got to kind of like

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Speaker 3: Long story short, put him in there now.

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Speaker 4: But do you think put him in there now?

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Speaker 2: Put him in there for a home game against the

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Speaker 3: I think I had mentioned, like back in the preseason

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Speaker 3: because he's on the road against him. Maybe a quote

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Speaker 3: unquote inferior opponent than what the Chargers look like right now.

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Speaker 3: So maybe that is the time. I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't be opposed to doing it this coming week. Obviously.

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Speaker 3: You would like for it to be a setup to

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Speaker 3: weight of the home crowd on his show. But I

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Speaker 3: don't think Jackson really cares. I think the guy's played

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Speaker 3: about college to where he doesn't really care about that.

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Speaker 3: And honestly, this offense, the kind of things that they

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Speaker 3: lot of the things he did at Ole Miss. Look,

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Speaker 3: I think that's gonna work regardless of whether you're in

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Speaker 3: like the Chargers. Just put him in there. This team

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Speaker 3: needs that, they need an infusion of energy because right now,

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Speaker 3: I mean, they just look like dead man walking again.

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Speaker 3: And how many years has that been? The case at

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Speaker 3: the beginning of the season with the Giants consecutively. Now

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Speaker 3: this is the same old story.

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Speaker 2: you all right, that's uh Lewis Riddick of the Mothership.

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Speaker 2: once again. It's a novel called Big Shield. It's a

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Speaker 2: is definitely not the NFL. The e book is available

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Speaker 9: My agent's been negotiating deals for me to do the

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Speaker 2: What change though with Roger Goodell? Because everybody was against

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Speaker 9: They don't just have the sponsorships with all the major

436
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Speaker 9: sports books. The owners individually can own up to five

437
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Speaker 9: percent of companies that operate sports books. That's where the

438
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Speaker 9: money is. So it's always followed the money. And I'm

439
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Speaker 9: not look, I'm a capitalist. I'm not saying it's wrong,

440
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 9: but that's what happened. They realized, you know what, we've

441
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Speaker 9: hated this, we fought against it. If it's gonna be inevitable,

442
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Speaker 9: let's turn it into a revenue stream. And they've turned

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Speaker 9: it into a massive revenue stream.

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Speaker 2: I hear and I read conflicting reports on the Toushbush.

445
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Speaker 2: Is it going to survive? Like it'll survive this season,

446
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Speaker 2: but then next season? And I thought when Dean Blandino

447
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Speaker 2: live during a broadcast said I give up. I don't

448
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 2: know how to officiate this play, and I thought, that's

449
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Speaker 2: the out for the NFL because the safety numbers aren't there.

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Speaker 2: This is about we can't call this. I don't know

451
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Speaker 2: how you can't call somebody. When the guards move on

452
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Speaker 2: the Eagles offense line like that, that's easy to call.

453
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Speaker 2: Spotting the football is still a challenge on that play.

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Speaker 2: Is it back next year?

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Speaker 9: I think right now, the wind is blowing in the

456
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Speaker 9: direction that it won't be and the moment, I believe

457
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Speaker 9: based on everything I've seen, everything I've heard, and just

458
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Speaker 9: my own kind of like what's really going on here

459
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 9: in the NFC Championship when Frankie Louvou of the Commanders

460
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 9: repeatedly jumped off side to the point where the referee

461
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Speaker 9: threatened the Eagles with what would are the Commanders, excuse

462
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Speaker 9: me with what would be called a palpably unfair act,

463
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Speaker 9: and we're just going to give the Eagles the touchdown.

464
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Speaker 9: That's never happened, for it's in the rule book, but

465
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Speaker 9: it's never happened. I think the commissioner watching that game,

466
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Speaker 9: and I'm assuming it was him, because he's got the

467
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Speaker 9: power to make these dominoes fall if he wants.

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Speaker 8: I think he saw that and he said, we can't

469
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Speaker 8: have this. We just can't have this. So it was

470
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Speaker 8: that week Mike Pereira was appearing somewhere.

471
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Speaker 9: And said that that moment could be basically the death noell.

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Speaker 8: Of the tush push. It's like, wait a minute, wait

473
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Speaker 8: a minute. The effort to stop it, because the effort

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Speaker 8: to stop.

475
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Speaker 9: It goes to those extremes they're just going to get

476
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Speaker 9: rid of the play. But then we saw what happened,

477
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Speaker 9: and it's been one straw man after another. Oh, it's

478
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Speaker 9: a safety risk. The data doesn't back it up. Well,

479
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Speaker 9: it doesn't look like football. Well what the hell does

480
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Speaker 9: that mean? And now, Dan, I think you've hit on it.

481
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Speaker 9: It's going to be we just can't officiate it. We

482
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Speaker 9: just can't officiate it. And I was told yesterday, Look,

483
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Speaker 9: it's an extremely difficult played to officiate, and this is

484
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Speaker 9: what the membership voted for. And I think that's the

485
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Speaker 9: attitude of the league office. I think the league office

486
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Speaker 9: generally like to get rid of it. They were two

487
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Speaker 9: votes short, sixty eight percent of the team's voted to

488
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Speaker 9: get rid of it, to vote short to get the

489
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Speaker 9: seventy five percent. And I think once the season ends

490
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Speaker 9: there's going to be some arm twisting to get from

491
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Speaker 9: twenty two to ten to twenty four to eight and

492
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Speaker 9: get rid of it.

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Speaker 4: But the Eagles are still going to be successful.

494
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Speaker 9: It's still going to run quarterback sneak that you can't stop,

495
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 9: and the guards are still going to leave early. But

496
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Speaker 9: there's just something about that play being the symbol and

497
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Speaker 9: the thing, And you're right, it's not going to change

498
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Speaker 9: the effectiveness of having a quarterback who can squad five

499
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Speaker 9: hundred pounds.

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Speaker 2: And I think that their success rate prior to this

501
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Speaker 2: rule or using the tush push was very similar to

502
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Speaker 2: what their success rate is with it. And it's because

503
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Speaker 2: you have a quarterback that is unlike any other quarterback.

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Speaker 8: I'm trying to get you, get trying to get you

511
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Speaker 8: sued with me. How about that? Oh no, I'll represent

512
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Speaker 8: us all for free.

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Speaker 4: Really?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

515
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you against the NFL.

516
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that'd be a book on its own.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I saw the Billy Joel documentary, which was

519
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Speaker 9: just awesome, And when the Catholic Church tried to push

520
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Speaker 9: back against only the Good Die Young, the end result

521
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Speaker 9: was him sending a letter to the archdiocese saying, can

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Speaker 9: you please do that.

523
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Speaker 4: For all my songs?

524
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Speaker 2: He got a whole lot of publicity there. I'm trying

525
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Speaker 2: to figure out if three weeks is long enough three

526
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Speaker 2: games to figure out a team, figure out who these

527
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Speaker 2: teams are? Is there how many teams do you not

528
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Speaker 2: have a handle on.

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Speaker 9: I think it's difficult to figure out all of them

530
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Speaker 9: because the one thing that we know will happen, there

531
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Speaker 9: will be injuries, and how do you deal with the injury?

532
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 9: Is the next man up going to be good enough

533
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Speaker 9: to keep things rolling? Can you weather the storm until

534
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Speaker 9: the key player comes back? And we know that happens

535
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Speaker 9: every year.

536
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Speaker 8: But I think we kind of have an idea. We've

537
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Speaker 8: already had an idea.

538
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Speaker 9: The eight teams that legitimately have a chance, do they

539
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Speaker 9: fall off due to injury? The Bengals have I don't

540
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Speaker 9: know that they were in the eight. Maybe they were

541
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Speaker 9: in the ten or the twelve. But we know the

542
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Speaker 9: good teams, we know the bad teams. It's in between.

543
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Speaker 9: Is there a team that is just going to catch

544
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Speaker 9: lightning in a bottle? Is something going to happen? Are

545
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Speaker 9: they going to get better on the fly? Teams always

546
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Speaker 9: change from week one to week eighteen. It's such a

547
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Speaker 9: long season. They're going to get better, they're going to

548
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 9: get worse. And it could be that one of these

549
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Speaker 9: teams in the middle of the pack, and I think

550
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Speaker 9: back to the Patriots the year they won their first

551
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Speaker 9: Super Bowl. They were like five and five ten games in.

552
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 9: It can break one way or the other. We see

553
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Speaker 9: that happen. But right now we know the best, we

554
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 9: know the worst, and then there's this cluster of we

555
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 9: don't know and we'll find out.

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Speaker 2: I thought about this yesterday watching games and what's going

557
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Speaker 2: on with the Clippers with Kawhi Leonard and Steve Balmer.

558
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: What would prevent owners from doing side deals and circumventing

559
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Speaker 2: the salary cap in any sport.

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Speaker 4: I think if you're.

561
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Speaker 8: Smart, you can get away with it.

562
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Speaker 9: You can always get away with finding a way to

563
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Speaker 9: funnel money to somebody. After Pablo Toure reported on what

564
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Speaker 9: was going on with the Clippers, allegedly someone reached asked

565
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Speaker 9: me and said, you know what, there was a team

566
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Speaker 9: twenty years ago that had a separate in house video

567
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Speaker 9: production company and they would use that to pay players

568
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Speaker 9: who weren't on the team to keep them from going

569
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Speaker 9: to play for other teams. And it was a great

570
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 9: little way to have a side roster that you's stashed.

571
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 9: And everybody was properly compensated, so they weren't looking for

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Speaker 9: other jobs. But you had these extra guys and how

573
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Speaker 9: many it was. But that's what they did, and the

574
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Speaker 9: sense I got is that they weren't the only team.

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Speaker 9: Now I don't believe that's currently happening still, but how

576
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Speaker 9: hard would wait?

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Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you think that would be happening in any

578
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Speaker 4: sport if.

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Speaker 9: You're smart and if you're discreet, and if you can

580
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Speaker 9: trust the people that you're giving the money to. I

581
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 9: think that's the key, though, because it's one thing for

582
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Speaker 9: a guy to keep his mouth shut while he's being.

583
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Speaker 8: Paid by you.

584
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Speaker 9: But I'd think if this was something widespread over the

585
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Speaker 9: past thirty years of the salary cap, if there was

586
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Speaker 9: something like that, I'd like to think someone would have

587
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 9: spilled the beans by now.

588
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 8: Somebody would be pissed off about how it all ended.

589
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 9: I didn't get that last check, or you owe me

590
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 9: a little bit more, or you know, guy just is

591
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Speaker 9: out one night and he has a couple of pops

592
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Speaker 9: and he decides to say something to a reporter. I'm

593
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Speaker 9: surprised we haven't heard more about it, because I think

594
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Speaker 9: I think it's naive to assume and Pablo had a

595
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Speaker 9: great take last week about Steve Balmer. You know, these

596
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 9: really rich guys can buy anything and everything they want

597
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 9: except that championship, and it's got to drive them crazy.

598
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 8: So what do they have? They have money. Let's find

599
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Speaker 8: a way to throw more of the money at this

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Speaker 8: thing that we can't buy.

601
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Speaker 2: Tom Brady did the Bears game yesterday with the Cowboys,

602
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Speaker 2: and then his Raiders are going to be playing the

603
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Speaker 2: Bears coming up. The conflict of interest is sort of

604
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Speaker 2: lingering there and probably going to heat up a little

605
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Speaker 2: bit more next week. How do you see this end

606
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Speaker 2: or does it end in a different way.

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Speaker 9: It was hiding in plainsight for all of us to

608
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Speaker 9: see for over a year.

609
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Speaker 8: But it just shows you the power.

610
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Speaker 9: Of actually seeing something because the moment we saw the

611
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Speaker 9: incredible shrinking Tom Brady, because as soon as he realized

612
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 9: he was on screen, he hit that button and down

613
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Speaker 9: that seat went because he knew, he knew this isn't

614
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Speaker 9: going to end well, because that woke everyone up, we

615
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 9: already should have known existed.

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Speaker 8: You can't reconcile his two jobs.

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Speaker 9: I think what's gonna happen because the NFL doesn't want

618
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Speaker 9: to admit we never should have allowed him to pick

619
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Speaker 9: both lanes.

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Speaker 8: We should have told him when we did the vote.

621
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Speaker 9: Last October on allowing him into the club, you got

622
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Speaker 9: to pick one or the other.

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Speaker 8: You can't do both. I think what will happen. It'll

624
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Speaker 8: be like the Tush push.

625
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Speaker 9: If the Raiders ever become really, really good, that's when

626
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 9: there's going to be this ground swell.

627
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Speaker 8: This can't continue.

628
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Speaker 9: Tom Brady can't continue to be at these games and

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Speaker 9: gather this information. Dan the one point that gets lost

630
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Speaker 9: in all this, because there's been a lot of talk about, well,

631
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Speaker 9: how much do you really get from a production meeting?

632
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Speaker 8: The real value.

633
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Speaker 9: Is being on the field before the game, when you

634
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 9: can hobnob, when people are gonna come, they want to

635
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 9: talk to you, They're gonna come tell you things they

636
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 9: shouldn't tell you. You can see what a player looks like.

637
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 9: He looks different on TV than he looks on the field.

638
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 9: And so it's not just getting ready to face the Bears.

639
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 9: It's which free agents from this team, what I maybe

640
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Speaker 9: like to say sign Which assistant coaches are the ones

641
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 9: who are really really the ones? You know, the media

642
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 9: has an idea of who the ones who are up

643
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 9: and comings should be. But I'm in a position to

644
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Speaker 9: find out who's really making this team go. He's in

645
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 9: an incredible situation that no other owner is in to

646
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 9: gather information.

647
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 8: That can be used.

648
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Speaker 9: And Antonio Pierce, the former coach of the Raiders, he

649
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 9: said it all last week. He told Adam Shine, I

650
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 9: know that it's useful because he gave me that information

651
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Speaker 9: last year.

652
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Speaker 4: How does Kirk Cousins get traded.

653
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Speaker 9: Well, there's going to have to be a serious season

654
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Speaker 9: ending injury for a team that doesn't want to go

655
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Speaker 9: next man up, and the Bengals for now are next

656
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Speaker 9: man up.

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Speaker 8: And look, the Bengals aren't going to want to.

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Speaker 9: Give up draft picks because those are cheap young players.

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Speaker 9: They're not going to want to pay Kirk Cousins. And

660
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Speaker 9: the Falcons are going to want whoever takes on Kirk

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Speaker 9: Cousins to pick up a major chunk of his twenty

662
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Speaker 9: seven and a half million dollar guaranteed salary this year.

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Speaker 9: But it's going to have to line up just right,

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Speaker 9: and I don't know that it will. I think the

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Speaker 9: one place could be Minnesota because that's the easiest place

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Speaker 9: to pop him back in if, for example, Jay Jan

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Speaker 9: McCarthy comes back and gets injured again and it's a

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Speaker 9: longer term injury, and they feel like they can salvage

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Speaker 9: the season and they don't want to ride with Carson Wentz,

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Speaker 9: who who looked okay yesterday. He wasn't horrible. He didn't

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Speaker 9: throw a left handed interception in his own end zone.

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Speaker 9: So that's progress. So it's gonna be something where it's

673
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Speaker 9: gotta fall just right. And it could be that the

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Speaker 9: Falcons decide at some point this year that we're not

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Speaker 9: going to trade him, because we're gonna put Michael Pennix

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Speaker 9: on the bench like the Panthers did last year with

677
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Speaker 9: Bryce Young and let him take a step back and

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Speaker 9: regroup because yesterday was rough for Penis and the Falcons.

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Speaker 4: Your favorite part of the book is what well.

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Speaker 9: The book is told from the perspective of the three

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Speaker 9: main characters, and the first draft of the book it

682
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Speaker 9: unfolded in a somewhat different way with a different main character.

683
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Speaker 8: I decided, and it's a long story, so keep it simple.

684
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Speaker 9: That part got carved out, and I put a new

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Speaker 9: part in with a new main character who's like the

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Speaker 9: mob figure, who's the guy who gathers the professional athletes

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Speaker 9: because it's not just a professional football player in the

688
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Speaker 9: league that isn't the NFL. It's a professional basketball player

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Speaker 9: in the league that isn't the NBA, and a professional

690
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Speaker 9: baseball player in the league that isn't the MLB. But

691
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Speaker 9: he's the he's the guy that makes this thing go.

692
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Speaker 9: And he was the most fun to write, the most

693
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Speaker 9: fun to revise and edit, because when you get a book,

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Speaker 9: you gotta read it twenty times. It's like, I really

695
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Speaker 9: don't want to read this again, but every time I'd

696
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Speaker 9: read Johnny Motts is the name of the character. Any

697
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Speaker 9: Johnny Motts chapter was just fun because he's he's he's malicious,

698
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Speaker 9: but he's stupid, but he's smart, and he's also got

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Speaker 9: a conscience. And it's this complex character that is just

700
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Speaker 9: a lot of fun because he thinks like a mobster,

701
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Speaker 9: he talks like a mobster, and that's just always fun

702
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Speaker 9: to read and and just kind of envision what that

703
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Speaker 9: guy's like.

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Speaker 4: Did you ever have any dealings with the mob when

705
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Speaker 4: you were gambling?

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Speaker 8: I never gambled. I never gambled.

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Speaker 9: My dad was a bookie though okay, my dad was

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Speaker 9: a bookie and he was connected to the crew in

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Speaker 9: the town where I grew up in Wheeling, West Virginia,

710
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Speaker 9: and the first two I did are based on inspired

711
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Speaker 9: by I don't want to say based on I want

712
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Speaker 9: to say inspired by I don't think any of them

713
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Speaker 9: are left, but just in case. But he was a

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Speaker 9: bookie connected to that crew, and so I knew a

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Speaker 9: lot of the people who when I grew up and

716
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Speaker 9: was able to like google names and see what they

717
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Speaker 9: had done or allegedly had done, it was like, oh,

718
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Speaker 9: almost said a word I shouldn't say, but it was like.

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Speaker 8: Man, like, you know, those are some bad dudes.

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Speaker 9: And my dad was on the periphery of it because

721
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Speaker 9: he was just basically he was a compulsive gambler who

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Speaker 9: realized it's better to be the house so he became

723
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Speaker 9: a bookie. But he was just the gambling side of it.

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Speaker 9: And I'm not condoning it or excusing it. That was

725
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Speaker 9: the way provided for his family.

726
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Speaker 8: I was a kid.

727
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Speaker 9: There was nothing I could do about it, and my

728
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Speaker 9: mom did a great job of keeping those worlds separate,

729
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Speaker 9: but there was enough overlap where yeah, I picked up

730
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Speaker 9: a lot how they talk, how they act, just the

731
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Speaker 9: vibe that they have that I was around a lot

732
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Speaker 9: of guys like that, and I was oblivious to the

733
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Speaker 9: fact that, you know, they they were capable of doing

734
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Speaker 9: some pretty bad stuff.

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Speaker 4: The book is called Big Shield.

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Speaker 2: It's the tale of gambling the mob in a pro

737
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Speaker 2: football league that is not the NFL. Once again, it

738
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Speaker 2: is not. The book available on Amazon for only ninety

739
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Speaker 2: nine cents.

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Speaker 9: Do you read books? No, you have all these books

741
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Speaker 9: and you don't read them. It's a library here, by

742
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Speaker 9: the way, I haven't been to this location. Congratulations, because

743
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 9: this is incredible. The last place was great, but this

744
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Speaker 9: is like the last place on steroids.

745
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Speaker 8: I mean, it's huge, and it's open, and you got

746
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Speaker 8: so much stuff and it's all.

747
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Speaker 9: You could wander around here for like three hours and

748
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Speaker 9: not see everything.

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Speaker 8: It really is incredible.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Mike. Great to see you. Great to see you,

751
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Speaker 4: Mike Floria.

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Speaker 2: Well, welcome back the Hall of Famer, three times Super

757
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Speaker 2: Bowl champ and Super Bowl MVP Steve youngback on the program.

758
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Speaker 2: Paully just telling me about the Justin Herbert throw and

759
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: said it might be the greatest throw he's ever seen. Physically,

760
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Speaker 2: the greatest throw that he's ever seen. Dan Orlovsky of

761
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Speaker 2: the Mothership said only five players can make that pass.

762
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Speaker 2: You've seen the play. How great was the pass by

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert?

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Speaker 10: It was amazing? And I agree with that. Physically, what

765
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Speaker 10: you have to be able to do the strength to

766
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Speaker 10: climb the pocket, to be mobile enough to find the space.

767
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Speaker 10: I thought for a second he might throw it left handed,

768
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Speaker 10: how good he is, but he did grapple with his

769
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Speaker 10: right going left and across his body. I mean, it's

770
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Speaker 10: just it's why you'd always think why do guys get paid?

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Speaker 11: Why quarterbacks?

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Speaker 10: It's a really tough job Dan, as you know, and

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Speaker 10: to me, Justin's a guy like, first of all, just

774
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Speaker 10: take it from an artistic perspective. I mean, if you're

775
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Speaker 10: just an appreciator of the throwing motion as an art form,

776
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Speaker 10: Justin Herbert is the most Lisa right, like he he

777
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Speaker 10: and Andrew Luck. In my mind with the two guys,

778
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Speaker 10: when I watched them throw, I'm like, oh ho, you

779
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 10: know you get light headed.

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Speaker 11: You know you're like, oh.

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Speaker 2: That's nice, that's sweet.

782
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Speaker 10: You know, people around me when I'm watching him play,

783
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Speaker 10: You're like, well, Steve, relaxed, bro, it's you know, it's

784
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 10: not the but but then he's been unleashed a little

785
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Speaker 10: bit with Jim and Harbough.

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Speaker 11: I appreciate.

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Speaker 10: Uh, he was like a kept man and I didn't

788
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 10: like it. He was getting beat up. He was hanging

789
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 10: in the pocket too long. And I think, you know,

790
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Speaker 10: I really liked when he's come out this season. He

791
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Speaker 10: won a game with his legs the other day, like

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Speaker 10: he is more mobile in his mind, Like, Okay, I'm

793
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Speaker 10: attacking the line of scrimmage, and you know how I

794
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Speaker 10: feel about that. You have to be able to attack

795
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Speaker 10: alant of scrimmage in today's game because it's so much

796
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Speaker 10: of a differentiator and there's so much free yards and

797
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Speaker 10: touchdowns to go get. So as you think about that

798
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Speaker 10: throw he was doing that, I'm I don't see anybody.

799
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Speaker 10: I'm gonna start get out of the pocket, try to

800
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Speaker 10: find some space.

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Speaker 11: I might run it. I might.

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Speaker 10: And so he's the kind like Josh Allen who were

803
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Speaker 10: the five. He thinks that can do it. I mean,

804
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Speaker 10: it's Patrick, it's Josh Lamar could maybe do that. It's uh,

805
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Speaker 10: Joe Burrow maybe I mean, you know, I mean, it's

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Speaker 10: just there's a few guys, right, there's a few guys

807
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Speaker 10: that could do that.

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers maybe Aaron.

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Speaker 10: You know, I mean Aaron in you know, a little

810
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Speaker 10: younger Aaron. Maybe I think that Aaron's a little bit

811
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Speaker 10: more sedate. But yeah, I think that there's no question

812
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Speaker 10: as far as arm capability and athleticism.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, is there a team you're jumping on

814
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Speaker 2: the bandwagon. Now you've seen enough where you go, all right,

815
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Speaker 2: I'm all in on them.

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Speaker 10: Well, you have to kind of say Philadelphia because they're

817
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Speaker 10: they're they're built the locker room, they've been tested, they've

818
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 10: been battle tested, they've been through it. And then you know,

819
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Speaker 10: to see what happened yesterday is one of those catapults like,

820
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Speaker 10: oh yeah, it's happening.

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Speaker 11: I know it's still the preseason in September.

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Speaker 10: It takes three or four weeks of a of a

823
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Speaker 10: of this of the year, you know, of of the

824
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Speaker 10: seasons these days where you know, preseason is not really preseason.

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Speaker 11: This is the preseason, so you just don't know for sure.

826
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Speaker 10: But if I had to bet on a team that's

827
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Speaker 10: going to be there at the end, I would say

828
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Speaker 10: the Bills, and the and the and the Eagles.

829
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Speaker 2: I watched the Bears and the Cowboys, and it was entertaining.

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Speaker 2: But it's one of those games that I'm not sure

831
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Speaker 2: if it means anything. It was just entertaining. At the

832
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Speaker 2: end of the year, we might look back and say,

833
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Speaker 2: oh yeah, Caleb, it looked great against the Cowboys. Do

834
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Speaker 2: you have an idea of how good these teams are?

835
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Speaker 4: No?

836
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Speaker 11: And I don't they know, No one could.

837
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Speaker 10: I mean, like I said, today's game, they limit so

838
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Speaker 10: much the time between coaches and quarter and quarterbacks and

839
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Speaker 10: the team players with quick OTAs and then a preseason

840
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Speaker 10: that's abbreviated, and they can't you know, it's not gonna

841
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 10: lot of contact. It's like, look, they throw the freegency

842
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 10: is as wild as ever been. Like you throw a

843
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 10: team together and then you just you know, it's like

844
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Speaker 10: throw the mechanic in the trunk, right, we're gonna We're

845
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 10: gonna figure it out as we go. And so that's

846
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 10: why I say, the first four weeks you really don't

847
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 10: know who you are. The really good teams show up,

848
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 10: the really bad teams show up, and everyone in the

849
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 10: middle is like, Okay, let's just hope we're two and

850
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 10: two or three and one by the end of this,

851
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Speaker 10: and then we'll start to figure out who we are.

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00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 10: But to me, that game like the Cowboys are just

853
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 10: I mean, you've heard me talk about it forever. They're

854
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 10: just flawed from the top because they don't you know,

855
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 10: the owner doesn't empower the coach to go get anything done,

856
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Speaker 10: and so it's just in the end, they just flail around.

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Speaker 11: So I don't the Cowboys, I just whatever. The Bears.

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Speaker 10: I mean, look, they have a coach that's proven offensive,

859
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Speaker 10: mine an innovative mine and Caleb.

860
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Speaker 11: Quarterbacks are ten places like that.

861
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Speaker 10: It's more than that now because I really think the

862
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 10: league's got a lot more innovative minds thanks to Kyle

863
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Speaker 10: Shanahan and Sean McVay and Andy Reid and their trees

864
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Speaker 10: and Sean Payton. They're trees of coaches are now flooded

865
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Speaker 10: the NFL. So it's it's better for quarterbacks. And so

866
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Speaker 10: I think coach Johnson, I think Caleb. I think they'll

867
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Speaker 10: be a good marriage. As he the coach is now

868
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Speaker 10: ever had a mobile quarterback before he said, look, I've

869
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Speaker 10: never coached a mobile quarterback. Well, you know, there's things

870
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Speaker 10: that are new there, so there's that even preseason going on.

871
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Speaker 10: But I love what happened for the Bears yesterday. They

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Speaker 10: needed it and it was just a sign that there's

873
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 10: life there.

874
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 4: What's different with Daniel Jones.

875
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 10: You know, when he was in New York, if you

876
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 10: think about it, when they quieted his mind down. Daniel

877
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 10: is one of those guys that's very athletic. He thinks

878
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 10: he can do it all. And what he tries to

879
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 10: do it all things go. You know, the oil starts

880
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 10: to fly all over there. You know, it's just you know,

881
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 10: it's crazy. And so what he was when they quieted

882
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 10: it down and asked less and ran the football and

883
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 10: simplified things, it got better. And so I think what's

884
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 10: happened is you got to one of those places where

885
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 10: you know it's an offensive mind that clicks with him

886
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 10: and they run the football. And you know how it works, Dan,

887
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 10: Things get simpler when linebackers and safeties are freaking out

888
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 10: worried about running football all of a sudden, play action bam.

889
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 10: And when things are clear and simple for him, he perform.

890
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 10: And so I think that's how it works, and I

891
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 10: think it can happen. I mean, I don't think it's

892
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 10: just a fluke. I think that Daniel can be under

893
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 10: the right circumstances. The truth is, I think a lot

894
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 10: of guys if they can find the place that resonates

895
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 10: with them, which is not everywhere, which is not even

896
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 10: half of the teams. Quarterback, if I've said to you

897
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 10: many times, if I could play today and I could

898
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 10: run to any you know football NFL team today, where

899
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 10: would you want to play? Well, there's three that I'd

900
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 10: run to right now, and then there's ten that I

901
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 10: would like, Eh, all right, I'll go there, and there's fifteen.

902
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, give me the teams you would run to,

903
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 4: I've go to.

904
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 11: San Francisco, the Rams and the Chiefs.

905
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 10: Those are the innovative minds that for someone that since

906
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 10: the rule changes in ten years ago or eight years ago,

907
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 10: they're the ones that had the tactical advantage because of

908
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 10: their innovation, because they saw the opportunity and immediately, you

909
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 10: know with them, incredible minds just started to change the

910
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 10: game and you remember what and then you know they've

911
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 10: had to reiterate and reinvent themselves as their coaches went

912
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 10: out were hired by other teams because they saw what

913
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 10: happened with Miami and Minnesota and Green Bay and like

914
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 10: you just go around the lead.

915
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 11: Now it's everywhere to Jacksonville.

916
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 10: Like there's guys that have just come from those trees

917
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,959
Speaker 10: that have innovative minds that have seen it and go, Okay,

918
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 10: this is what we're gonna do. That's why I think

919
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 10: the tactical advantage from those guys has gone. You know,

920
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 10: it's lost a little bit, but they have to reinvent

921
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 10: themselves again. And but those are the three places I

922
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 10: would sprint to.

923
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 2: Talking to Hall of Famer Steve Young, if you were

924
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: gonna give advice, what quarterback do you think needs advice?

925
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 11: What?

926
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 4: What do you mean?

927
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 11: Like like every quarterback? What are you? What are you

928
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 11: talking about?

929
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 4: Like you mean like Josh Allen? Does Josh Allen need advice?

930
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 11: Well, everybody's.

931
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 10: Everyone has to continue to iterate their game and really

932
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 10: take the positives. Like Josh he was to be Superman.

933
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,959
Speaker 10: It wasn't really advice that I would give to his game.

934
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 10: It was like, please, please Bill's please Bill's offense. Please

935
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 10: give him some help so that he doesn't have to

936
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 10: be Superman all the time. Because when you have to

937
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 10: be Superman all the time, just like Patrick Mahomes was

938
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 10: trying to be Superman four or five years ago. Then

939
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 10: you get into games and you just things go, hey,

940
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 10: why are again like you have to be able to

941
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 10: calm your mind to be you know, delivered from the pocket,

942
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 10: not have to be Superman every play, and then when

943
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 10: they ask you to for four or five plays a game, like, yeah,

944
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 10: no problem. And so everyone needs advice and everyone needs

945
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 10: help and it's not necessarily about them. So much of

946
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 10: it is you know, everyone says, oh, the commodity in

947
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 10: the NFL is coaching.

948
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 11: Yeah, just get a coach.

949
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 10: Like that's the offensive coordinators, the play callers, the best

950
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 10: in the game are like the Josh Allens are, like

951
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 10: the Patrick Mahomes are, like the Lamar Jackson's. There's there's

952
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 10: a few, and you've got to search them out and

953
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 10: find him and and when they when they meet another

954
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 10: great talent. That's why people go to the super Bowl.

955
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 10: And so just do not think that the talent to

956
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 10: be a great offensive coordinator, and especially an innovative kind

957
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 10: of game we have today where there's all kinds of

958
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 10: cool stuff you can do. Those guys are differentiators. So

959
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 10: the advice I would give to quarterbacks. Every one of

960
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 10: them find somebody like that, because they're not They're not

961
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 10: a diamond does in.

962
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 11: That's for sure.

963
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 2: What would you say to Lamar Jackson if he came

964
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: to you and said, Steve, what do you think of

965
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: my mind? Wow?

966
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 10: I would love that because Lamar is my guy. Like,

967
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 10: I think Lamar could be the greatest player of all time.

968
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 10: And I've said this for years, and I think the

969
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 10: Ravens have hurt.

970
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 11: They haven't hurt me. I mean, they don't care.

971
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 10: But I'm just saying four or five years ago, they

972
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 10: were the most sophisticated running game in history, and they

973
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 10: win a lot of games, and they'd go to the

974
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 10: playoffs and just flail because the game is a sophisticated

975
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 10: passing game.

976
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 11: Is still what matters. Great running games are great.

977
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 10: But and then Lamar just was not being challenged to

978
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 10: be a sophisticated passer and I knew he could be.

979
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 10: And then years ago you saw them transition and they

980
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 10: got the help he needed a receiver and made a

981
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 10: commitment to it and believed in him and then started

982
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 10: to call a place to do that. So I think

983
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 10: that transition is happening and That's why Lamar continues to

984
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 10: thrive and can get better and better. I would say

985
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,479
Speaker 10: to Lamar, keep on this track. Make sure every week

986
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 10: that you're doing the study. Like it's quarterback sucks in

987
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 10: a lot of ways during the week, because it's a

988
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 10: it's a it's a memorization game. It's reflexive memorization, so

989
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 10: that when you get to the game, you've studied enough

990
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 10: that you know that all the tendencies you know, you

991
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 10: know in the red zone, blitz tendencies, you know, you

992
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 10: watched enough film. So much of it is just a

993
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 10: mind game. And I would just tell him, like he

994
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 10: is obviously doing the work, just double down every every

995
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 10: every week, every season, like double down on the mind game.

996
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 4: How much of the position is being an entertainer.

997
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 10: Look, I would I wouldn't call a entertainer. I would

998
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 10: call it a psychologist. Like you, the game really demands

999
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 10: a dynamic human being that can deal with people. You know,

1000
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 10: bespoke right where everybody is different and everybody needs to be.

1001
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 10: Some guys can get yelled at, and some guys you

1002
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 10: can't yell. You got to kind of like pat them

1003
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 10: on the back. Some guys you got to find different

1004
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 10: ways to communicate, but you always have to be accountable,

1005
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 10: and it's just a dynamic situation.

1006
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 11: So the entertainment part.

1007
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 10: Is really in the in the doing and in the

1008
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 10: getting the guys together, getting your office of lying to

1009
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 10: believe that it's okay that you get paid ten times

1010
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 10: that the amount they do and they have to get

1011
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 10: to fight every week and you don't, and you get

1012
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 10: to be on TV. And like there's all kinds of

1013
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 10: dynamics in the locker room, there's dynamics with the media.

1014
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 10: So in that way, I would say, yeah, that's a

1015
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 10: huge quot the way you're asking the question, But I

1016
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 10: don't think it's necessarily like can you sing and dance?

1017
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 10: Like it's there's fundamentals to it. It's a it's a

1018
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 10: like I said many times, I've poured myself into playing

1019
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 10: and there's nothing like it, and ever since, there's nothing

1020
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 10: like what.

1021
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 11: I had to do to try to be good or

1022
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 11: great in the in the NFL.

1023
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 10: And so in that way, the forty quarterbacks are just

1024
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 10: it's an awesome, brutal opportunity to be amazing if you

1025
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 10: can figure out how to pour yourself into it and

1026
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 10: give everything ounce of yourself.

1027
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 11: But that entertainment side of it. That's pretty you know,

1028
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 11: to me, that's what it's entertaining to Dan.

1029
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 10: When you're good or you're great, when you're winning and

1030
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 10: you're you're making great plays like justin Herbert, that's entertainment, right,

1031
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 10: is that what you're talking about?

1032
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 11: Yeah, Like that's that's excellence.

1033
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 10: That's just that's the tip of the spear kind of

1034
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 10: awesome physical, emotional, like the really, the way he got

1035
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 10: there was not just because he's a great athlete, and

1036
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 10: why you got there is because he's a gritty, tough, minded,

1037
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,479
Speaker 10: you know, dynamic human being that can get everybody fired

1038
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 10: up to go play some you know, go ram into

1039
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 10: people and and get into a fight and support you.

1040
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 11: So to me, yeah, that's entertainment, and it is you

1041
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 11: have to have that.

1042
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 2: I asked this question last week. What do you hear

1043
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: when you're in the pocket, Like when you step up

1044
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 2: in the pocket, what do you what do you hear?

1045
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 11: I heard Reggie White yelling like he screamed, like he

1046
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 11: was a screamer. Like Reggie's like like you heard him

1047
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 11: coming like a train.

1048
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 5: He would just like, Bro, you're already you're six six

1049
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 5: five hundred, not with the screaming, you know, but you know.

1050
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 10: It's like the white noise of the crowd, like people say,

1051
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 10: do you what do you hear? It's like, it's just

1052
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 10: it's the job. It takes so much focus and so

1053
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 10: much like you think about just the anticipatory throwing as

1054
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 10: you see people moving and now know how to you

1055
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 10: know where you need to let it go at the

1056
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 10: time you need to let it go. Nobody's open. Nobody's like,

1057
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 10: oh he's open, let me throw it. Like that's college, man,

1058
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 10: that's high school. Like, nobody's open. When you throw it,

1059
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 10: you have to throw it well before something happens. And

1060
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 10: so in that way, that focus is so great. It's

1061
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 10: not like, oh, I you know a reginally I did here.

1062
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 10: I have to admit that's why I said it, but

1063
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 10: but I just it's just it's just white noise. It's

1064
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 10: like just whatever, like uh, you know I didn't uh.

1065
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 10: And then you know if no one here, I mean,

1066
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 10: you hear it. The only thing you hear is is

1067
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 10: after the play, you know, stupid. I mean, what defensive

1068
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 10: line has ever said anything? You really understand? You know

1069
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 10: how the their faces pushed to the helmet, you know,

1070
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 10: and you know your mother know. I'm like, my mom,

1071
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 10: want what's the problem? But did they You're screaming something

1072
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 10: that I don't. I don't get your your face is

1073
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 10: squished in your helmet. You don't you're you're gurgling something.

1074
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 10: I don't know what you're talking about.

1075
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 4: Bro, they tried to trash talk you.

1076
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 11: Yeah, but you don't understand that. Like, I know you're

1077
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 11: trying to get to me, but Bro, I cannot understand you.

1078
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 2: Man, But Lawrence Taylor, any of those guys, mean, it's like.

1079
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 11: You know, it's like just a bunch of gobbledygook.

1080
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 10: I mean this eighties and it's corner splits in corners

1081
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 10: and safeties.

1082
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 11: I was like, you know, but defens a lineman. Just no, no,

1083
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 11: not much there.

1084
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 4: Did Dion ever try to talk you?

1085
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 10: Oh he's the best, the best, you know, he told

1086
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 10: me Dan it was amazing when he joined the forty

1087
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 10: nine ers.

1088
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 11: He turned me.

1089
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 10: He grabbed me early and said, look, Steve, what I

1090
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 10: want you to know is that I'm an amazing teammate.

1091
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 10: And in the locker room, I do my prep. I'm

1092
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 10: ready to play, and you'll never doubt me the rest

1093
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 10: of it. Just get some popcorn, and watch the parade

1094
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 10: bro because it's a it's a good one. And he

1095
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 10: was exactly right. He never he was always ready to play.

1096
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 10: He was a creatible teammate. He was great in the

1097
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 10: locker room and there was a parade man and we

1098
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 10: just kind of watched it.

1099
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 11: It was fun. Uh he was Yeah, Dion, could you

1100
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 11: know Dian was in the middle of entertaining. And you

1101
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 11: talk about.

1102
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 4: Entertainment, there you go, Yeah, that there he is.

1103
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 11: He was that good that he could be great and

1104
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 11: entertain the whole way. That's not easy to do.

1105
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 10: So you can do it from corner. You can do

1106
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 10: it from corner because it's a hard our job physically,

1107
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 10: but uh, you know, it's not like you know, you

1108
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 10: have to anticipatory throwing at twenty two guys running around

1109
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 10: like it's it's a different game. So and that way

1110
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 10: you could you could say, you know what, I'm gonna

1111
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 10: be great and I'm gonna make you, you know, laugh,

1112
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 10: or entertain or make you whatever.

1113
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 11: You know. I think you could do it from there.

1114
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 4: But he have been a Hall of Fame receiver if

1115
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 4: he just played offense.

1116
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, oh yeah, for sure, no question. He kept

1117
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 10: in when when I was with him that one year

1118
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 10: went the Super Bowl. He kept going over there and

1119
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 10: I said, look, let's let's cool, let's cool, let's get

1120
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 10: some let's get some routes in the Super Bowl. We

1121
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 10: finally we threw it late in the game. We did

1122
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 10: something just we owed him to him because he did

1123
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 10: so much work on the offense. He was like, he

1124
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 10: did a lot of prep work to be useful if needed,

1125
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 10: you know what I mean. And uh, I love that

1126
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 10: because I was like, the idea was just He's like,

1127
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 10: he's just throw it, don't worry, just stop back and

1128
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 10: just rip it and then I'll take care of the rest.

1129
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 10: I believed it, man, I believe it is possible to dude.

1130
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 10: He you know, Dad, he was one of the rare

1131
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 10: guys that defied your eye. You know, as a as

1132
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 10: a player, when you talk about keen sense of physical abilities,

1133
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 10: you had to know what a corner could do and

1134
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 10: how fast they could break, and how just a minute

1135
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 10: nature of how people moved and and you got a

1136
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 10: sense of it, like a heightened sense of it, so

1137
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 10: you knew exactly what was happened on the field and

1138
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 10: who could do what, and there's a timing to it

1139
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 10: and then Dion was different, like he would he would

1140
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 10: shock you. You're like, wait, you're not you can't move

1141
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 10: that way. There's not it's not possible. There was a

1142
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 10: time when he was with Atlanta early on. It's like

1143
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 10: I'm just not going over there because I can't got

1144
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 10: I can't gauge it. It was like something you couldn't

1145
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 10: I couldn't give a handle on it because it was

1146
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 10: his speed was so incredible.

1147
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 11: I was like I can't. I'm not gonna touch you

1148
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 11: for a little while.

1149
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 4: It's like, thanks for sharing. Great to talk to you again.

1150
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1151
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 4: Steve the man, everybody that's Steve Young,