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Speaker 2: Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on your twenty

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. And well it is a Tuesday here in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 3: and well we're back to kind of normal here. Yeah, Tomlin, Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you and everyone was on the

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Speaker 4: plane quite recovered to leave, sleep wise and getting your

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Speaker 4: bearings about you never get.

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Speaker 3: That back, I guess, not like sleep for sixteen hours

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Speaker 3: and something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that wasn't going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Uh So Mike Tomlin had his press conference today, said that, hey,

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Speaker 3: we just want to get back to normal. We don't

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Speaker 3: want that. You know, they don't want to use that

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Speaker 3: as an excuse, sure for not for anything.

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Speaker 4: Really, nobody wants to hear about it. The story's over

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Speaker 4: and move on. Move on, that's right, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, on to beat the Texans. I know you had

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Speaker 3: a chance to watch. There's some Texans I had a

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Speaker 3: chance to watch some Texans. I came away for from

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Speaker 3: that watching that game, thinking this was more about not that.

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Speaker 1: The Texas did bad stuff.

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Speaker 3: No, no, right, it was more to me about how

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Speaker 3: Jacksonville figured out ways to lose that game.

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Speaker 5: I thought so too.

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Speaker 4: I mean they got a kick blocked, Willie Anderson blocked

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Speaker 4: and took off like you shot out of a cannon

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Speaker 4: for a touchdown. That give off.

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Speaker 3: Basically the blocked field goal because the kick was on

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Speaker 3: a field goal attempt that's ended up being like a

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Speaker 3: seventeen point swing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like because they the Houston scored a touchdown

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean miskicks or turnover, let alone block

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Speaker 1: They could have put points on the board.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so real quick on Jacksonville. You were texting me

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Speaker 4: one hundred percent agree they didn't do I mean they

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Speaker 4: drop a ton of passes. I mean they make a

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Speaker 4: lot of mistakes on offense. You think that offense should

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Speaker 4: be rate And I don't even know if Lawrence is

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Speaker 4: playing bad, but like the offensive numbers are worse than

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Speaker 4: the Steelers, to be honest with you, and struggling to

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Speaker 4: really find any kind of identity or getting going on

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Speaker 4: that side of the ball. Defensively, they're very vanilla. And Stroud,

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Speaker 4: who will talk about a ton this week. He's playing well.

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Speaker 4: Stroud's a pretty oppressive player so far. He was sacked

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Speaker 4: eleven times in the first two games and was under

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Speaker 4: pressure like forty percent of the time. Jacksonville, like Barley, barely.

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Speaker 1: They rushed four all day long.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and didn't influence them hardly at all.

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Speaker 3: And no time like I counted like maybe three plays

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Speaker 3: they actually line somebody up on top of Kendrick Green. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like,

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Speaker 3: what's the one thing that he struggled with when he

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Speaker 5: Do any scout report on this guy?

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Speaker 3: He struggled when you had when the opposing team puts

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Speaker 3: somebody right on top of him. Yeah, and he didn't

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Speaker 4: And the Steelers might do that. You think they have

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Speaker 3: He allowed Kendrick Green, who, again, the one thing that

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Speaker 3: he does well. I mean he does some other stuff well,

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Speaker 1: A little bit they're allowing him to do that left

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Speaker 1: and right, and they're running behind Kendrick Green. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 4: That's you're you're playing to your opponent's strengths in a

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Speaker 4: lot of ways. And speaking of why is kind of

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Speaker 4: including Laramy Tunsel who might be back this week. But Scruggs,

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Speaker 5: I know Green's out for the year.

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Speaker 5: Next year next week they're allowed. Okay, So yeah, And.

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Speaker 1: That's the other thing.

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Speaker 5: I mean.

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Speaker 3: The Texas were down two of their top three cornerbacks

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Speaker 1: You're down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're doing again that one. It was a nice

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Speaker 4: win from the Texans. They are an improving team. They're

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Speaker 4: very young. First ever win for head coach, quarterback, et cetera,

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Speaker 3: GM apparently dud Did you see him high fiving guys

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Speaker 4: Room ZI, Yeah, I mean they're trying to build something

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Speaker 4: But Jacksonville has lost consistently to that team. I don't

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Speaker 4: know why, but it sure seems like they take them lightly.

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Speaker 3: For them, it looked like they had they just said,

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Speaker 3: we're just going to go out and be the Jaguars

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no one will know difference, right, not taking any

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Speaker 4: away from the Texans win. Like, No, they did some good.

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Speaker 5: Stuff, but I don't know what jackson has been up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't do anything that really challenged the Texans

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe you want a quarterback to process quickly and

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Speaker 3: Now, let's let the rookie stand back there and make

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know. And they got some receivers.

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Speaker 4: I like Tank Dalla has had two big games now,

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Speaker 4: Nico Collins, an Order, dude, Robert Woods. Those are the

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Speaker 5: They don't run the.

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Speaker 4: But deep down they're not a great team. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Well, it's very dangerous when you basically give up again

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Speaker 5: You're not gonna be anybody doing that right.

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Speaker 4: And again, a lot of mistakes from Jacksonville. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they didn't win in the margins. And

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Speaker 3: when you don't win in the margins, you have to

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Speaker 4: It didn't happen at all. No, So again, Houston's building something.

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Speaker 4: You know, I've dug into the numbers. Heavily watched them

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Speaker 4: fair amount this year. Stroud is kind of exactly who

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Speaker 4: he thought he was out of Ohio State, especially if

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Speaker 4: good player. I mean he's very accurate. Even when he

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Speaker 4: three games and the only two rookies have ever done

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that for a second.

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Speaker 4: So but they throw a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it goes back to the art.

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Speaker 3: Like you see the TV on Sunday was flashing up

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Speaker 1: You know, they haven't had.

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Speaker 3: Four hundred yards since since since this period, they've only

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Speaker 3: you know whatever, you know all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: You only do things, some of those things like that

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Speaker 4: Without question. I mean, Houston throws a ball a ton

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Speaker 3: They can't run it. And they've lost their first games convincingly.

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Speaker 3: They scored nine points against against the Ravens because and

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Speaker 3: he threw for a bunch of yards, but it was

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I love stats.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think you can get a really good

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Speaker 4: But it's just only one piece of the puzzle. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Here's the here's the more the better piece of the puzzle,

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Speaker 3: to use, you know, And Kenny Pickett's last ten starts

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Speaker 3: and Steelers are.

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Speaker 1: Eight and two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean that's a that's a that's a

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Speaker 4: I mean that that tells you who goes to the

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Speaker 5: You know, like.

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Speaker 4: Minnesota is the past happiest team in the league, and

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Speaker 4: They don't want to be the pass happiest.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, Nobody said Kirk Cousins is on a record

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Speaker 3: setting pace to throw throwing the football this year.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, and they're zero and three again. Back to

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Speaker 4: the Texans. If they could have some semblance of a

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Speaker 4: would lean on that or at least make it a balance.

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Speaker 3: Or if you trust your defense a little bit, you

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Speaker 3: don't go out, you don't no team wants unless you've

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Speaker 3: got Patrick Mahomes. You don't go on and say we

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Speaker 4: No, people want balance, and they're attacked different teams different ways,

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Speaker 4: of course, and it's good for the Texans that their

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Speaker 4: passing game is proving to be more than competent. And actually,

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Speaker 4: the number I like best about the Stroud is not

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Speaker 4: that he's gotten all these passing yards, because that's his volume, but.

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Speaker 5: He hasn't he hasn't thrown a pick.

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Speaker 4: He's had three games without throwing a pick, and he

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Speaker 1: There might be some interception luck involved with that.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure there is.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure he's throwing one the gut tipped and you

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Speaker 4: I'm sure I could dig into Pro Football Focus. They

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Speaker 4: do that in interception.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking it up here now as we as we

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Speaker 4: Mean, it's rare to go three games without throwing a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's just let me throw that much

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Speaker 4: I mean the old school eighty coaches would would say,

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But it doesn't mean you should just run it

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Speaker 4: if Tunsel comes back, who's a star, he's gonna get

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Speaker 4: hit more this week than.

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Speaker 1: He without a doubt, three without a doubt.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they're right, tackles a problem no matter what.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I just found that he has four turnover worthy

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Speaker 4: That's probably about average.

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Speaker 3: That's the same number as Kenny Pickett. No, and Pickett

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Speaker 3: That you know Pickett has had some in it, like

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Speaker 1: Have picked off.

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Speaker 5: He was fortunate about.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that was his error. I think it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's his throw.

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Speaker 3: He left his hand, he goes if he throws an

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Speaker 4: it leaves his hands. And again pro football focus isn't gospel.

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Speaker 4: But I like that they put what they call it again,

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Speaker 4: just judge it like that easily could have been a turnover.

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Speaker 4: And it brings me back to picket because the second

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Speaker 4: So there's been years where some quarterbacks get super lucky

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Speaker 1: So I mean you want to be low in that number.

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Speaker 3: You also don't have the you know, the ones that

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Speaker 5: No, no, and they will of course.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe that that again, the Jaguars just sat

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Speaker 3: I don't get it with that offensive line.

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Speaker 4: With that offensive line too, not only is it backups,

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Speaker 1: That together like a week before the season started.

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Speaker 4: We're not picking on Kendrick Green, but we all know

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Speaker 5: At these guys with a rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 4: With a rookie quarterback, even if he's advanced beyond his years,

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Speaker 4: he's not going to be Mahomes or Borough or you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you have to pressure him this week. That

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Speaker 3: that's the one thing, like I despite anything else that

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, as long as they're healthy from start to

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Speaker 4: quite Trent Williams, but he's probably a better play. He's

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Speaker 4: an easy one on one matchup all day long for him.

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Speaker 4: And then the interior favors of Steelers no matter what.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the one the matchup I think that it's going

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Speaker 3: Benton lined up on Kendrick Green. Those guys know him.

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Speaker 3: one pass. Especially Montravius Adams as a nose tackle, saw

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Speaker 5: And whether they love him or as a human being.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure, yeah, of course. And he may be your

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Speaker 4: But I'm walking over to Pat Meyers room and saying,

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he hate and the whole team probably knows it.

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Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, I want to see him. And I

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Speaker 5: He's got an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: He's a good guy. He was a good teammate when

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Speaker 4: He worked hard, he was always after practice, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's one the Steelers have to win on

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they might not have two three techniques out there.

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Speaker 4: Make him do that over and over and over, even

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Speaker 4: if it's who it doesn't matter who it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, So that's that's one that they have to

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Speaker 4: I'd be shock that they have any running success too.

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Speaker 3: Up if they're running the football, it might be because

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Speaker 3: But if you're getting if you're getting your pass rush

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Speaker 4: Know, they've gotten a lot of pressure without being a

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Speaker 5: Too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think you're gonna have to blitz them,

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Speaker 5: The O line. It's a makeshift unit.

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Speaker 3: I'm just looking here to see what his time to

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Speaker 3: How about justin fields of quarterbacks who have thrown a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, al right behind him, he's going to take.

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Speaker 5: He's at stints where he's really high.

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Speaker 4: That's why he's an animal, because if you make him,

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Speaker 5: He still cars you up. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One thing that they're not doing a ton with with

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Speaker 5: He's not the runner. People think he's got.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Kenny's a better runner than he is probably.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's something that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, get get him getting him holding the football, not

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Speaker 5: There's a difference.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he handled it well. I mean, to his

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Speaker 4: When you're getting pressured thirty forty percent of the time

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Speaker 5: Shrinky violet there.

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Speaker 4: You know, like Frankly Jimmy, who they played last week

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Speaker 4: last week the last week, right, But nobody likes it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the thing when when when the TV

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Speaker 3: nobody does.

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Speaker 5: He does.

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Speaker 3: Would they would all prefer to stand back there pat

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Speaker 4: And some of them have a bigger discrepancy from you know,

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Speaker 3: But I think yet, you have to go after this

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Speaker 5: If he beat you, he beats you.

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Speaker 1: But you got to do it.

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Speaker 5: You have to.

447
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm sure they will, and I bet they

448
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Speaker 4: can do it with four man rush too.

449
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Speaker 5: I mean, what's going to be a problem.

450
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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, but I'm not opposed to blitzing him.

451
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Speaker 4: In time, either a Landa Roberts up the middle or

452
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Speaker 4: corner brit make off.

453
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Speaker 1: Whatever it may be.

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Speaker 3: Just again, keep changing it up. You gotta be like

455
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Speaker 3: the Borg a little Star Trek reference ever.

456
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Speaker 5: I knew it, but I don't know Star Trek.

457
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Speaker 3: They would have the these they had this stuff that well,

458
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Speaker 3: it was like a force field around them and after

459
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Speaker 3: like the third shot their force field. If you if

460
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Speaker 3: you put three shots on them that were all the same,

461
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Speaker 3: and I think it was called they modulated. You have

462
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Speaker 3: to modulate your shots. If you didn't do that, the

463
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Speaker 3: third one got stopped the third or fourth one. So

464
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Speaker 3: now you have to keep changing the frequencies on your phaser.

465
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Speaker 3: To get it through the phaser FREU pass rush frequency.

466
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Speaker 3: You change your ass rush frequency. I think I want

467
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Speaker 3: to see stunts and all kinds of different stuff.

468
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Speaker 4: That stuff Jacksonville didn't do.

469
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Speaker 3: Yeah, everything that Jacksonville didn't do through right, take the

470
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Speaker 3: Jacksonville tape, throw it out.

471
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Speaker 4: Don't do that and do the Costanza. Yeah, whatever they

472
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Speaker 4: did didn't work. And their pass rushers aren't nearly as

473
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Speaker 4: good as Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, we're gonna get to a break. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

476
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Speaker 3: on Steelers Nation Radio. I swear my uh my.

477
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Speaker 4: Brain is still FRIEDA that's sure, but would you give

478
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Speaker 4: you credit?

479
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Speaker 5: You watched both Monday Night Ers till the end.

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Speaker 3: I did, and I also watched the the Houston Jacksonville game,

481
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Speaker 3: so after that, not at, I watched it during gotcha.

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Speaker 3: So anyways, we're gonna get to a break. We'll be

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Speaker 3: back with more on the drive right after this.

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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: M HM, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Alli. He is the Matt Williamson and

489
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Speaker 3: Matt It is Tuesday. That means it is a power

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Speaker 3: ranking day, and we.

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Speaker 1: Will get to that here. We of course use Eric

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Speaker 1: Aedholmes power.

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Speaker 3: Rankings on NFL dot com. Eric at home, Okay again,

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Speaker 3: brain Fried, it's gonna take me all.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it.

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Speaker 3: Gonna take me all week to get back into just

497
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Speaker 3: in time to leave for Houston.

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Speaker 4: These guys are going through something sort of similar. I'm

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Speaker 4: sure real quick power ranking note. So on my podcast

500
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Speaker 4: it's we want to be a half hour less, you

501
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Speaker 4: know quick.

502
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Speaker 5: We're all easy to digest.

503
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Speaker 4: So after we broke down both games last night, we

504
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Speaker 4: have a ton of time to go through power ranks.

505
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Speaker 4: So we did the tops and we did the bottoms,

506
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Speaker 4: and we basically took the easy way out. The middle

507
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Speaker 4: is a mess, you know. Like I'm excited to go

508
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Speaker 4: thirty two to one because I think there's it's easy

509
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Speaker 4: to see the tops in the bottom.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at thirty two down three spots or the Chicago

512
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Speaker 3: Bears easily without a doubt.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's two teams that are on the

514
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Speaker 4: bottom tier. I don't know if Eric will agree with

515
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Speaker 4: me or not.

516
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Speaker 3: At thirty one down eight spots are the Denver Broncos.

517
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Speaker 3: You gave up a seventy spot this week and you

518
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Speaker 3: only went to thirty one.

519
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Speaker 1: You didn't go all the way and you're winless.

520
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Speaker 4: And then you're winless. Yeah, I mean Washington got killed

521
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Speaker 4: this year this week. That's wo another team they've lost to.

522
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Speaker 4: We saw the Raiders. They're not great. That was another

523
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Speaker 4: team Denver lost to. Both those games were at home.

524
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Speaker 4: They're bad, and they're bad bad.

525
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Speaker 3: At thirty, down three spots the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

527
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Speaker 4: So the way I did it was I thought those

528
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Speaker 4: bottom two were the junk junk, junk, you know, neighborhood.

529
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Speaker 4: And then I had about five or six teams that

530
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Speaker 4: I thought were bad, and Carolina was one of them.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if they'd be my choice, but they

532
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Speaker 5: were one of them.

533
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Speaker 1: At twenty nine, down a spot the Giants.

534
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Speaker 5: And falling and falling.

535
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Speaker 1: Yeah, moving the wrong.

536
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Speaker 4: There's not much to get excited about the moment.

537
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Speaker 3: At twenty eight, up two spots, the two in one

538
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Speaker 3: Indianapolis Colts.

539
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Speaker 4: I had all those teams in this neighborhood. I might

540
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Speaker 4: have had the Colts even higher.

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Speaker 1: The two and one in there. They're twenty eighth.

542
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't. The more I think about it, they

543
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Speaker 4: were not. In my next to last year. They were

544
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Speaker 4: right above that.

545
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Speaker 1: At twenty seven down a spot the Raiders.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the Colts are better than the Raiders.

547
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Speaker 3: At twenty six down four spots are the Vikings.

548
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Speaker 4: I didn't put in that low.

549
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to kill them.

550
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Speaker 4: No, Yeah, they don't have awful losses. I mean again,

551
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Speaker 4: if they play the Raiders one hundred and eleven times,

552
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Speaker 4: they went seventy eight of them.

553
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Speaker 1: Well in the scores, probably how play.

554
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Speaker 3: At twenty five up seven spots the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 4: I think that's fair. I mean their offense has been

556
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Speaker 4: pretty respectable against a good Dallas d That might be

557
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Speaker 4: a little high.

558
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Speaker 5: I mean, I want to.

559
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Speaker 3: See what happens with the Arizona Cardinals when they don't

560
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Speaker 3: play an NFC East team. But Jonathan Gannon is very

561
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Speaker 3: very much understands.

562
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Speaker 5: No, I think that's a huge thing.

563
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Speaker 4: That's a huge favor they got to start the season

564
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Speaker 4: considering they're not an NFC East team. Yeah, like, I

565
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Speaker 4: think the Colts or Vikings beat the Cardinals pretty consistently.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would agree. At twenty four holding steady

567
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Speaker 3: the Rams.

568
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we saw them last night. They're closer

569
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Speaker 4: to that team than the team that started too to

570
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Speaker 4: oh in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well they didn't start two and oh.

572
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Speaker 4: They're one and two, right, maybeat the Seahawks and then

573
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Speaker 4: lost the Niners.

574
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

575
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Speaker 3: At twenty three, up eight spots. The team the Steelers

576
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Speaker 3: will see this week, the Houston Texans. That's a pretty

577
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Speaker 3: big jump.

578
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Speaker 5: Too big a jump, too big a jump.

579
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I'm impressed with what they're doing. Go back

580
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Speaker 4: and listen to the last segment. There's all kinds of

581
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Speaker 4: textan talk. I don't think they beat the Vikings in

582
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Speaker 4: a seven game series with the ram Rams or maybe

583
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Speaker 4: even the Colts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't go there.

585
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Speaker 1: They just lost the Colts last week. How do you

586
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Speaker 1: bump them up that high?

587
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Speaker 4: And I know everyone's excited about them because everyone's looking

588
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Speaker 4: for hot young quarterbacks and all that.

589
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Speaker 5: And he's the one that well.

590
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Speaker 1: They beat Jacksonville and Jacksonville is good. Can we not

591
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Speaker 1: admit maybe Jacksonville is not good?

592
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Speaker 4: Curious where they'll be, Yeah, because I would be hard

593
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Speaker 4: on Jacksonville.

594
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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

595
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: At twenty two, down three spots, the two and one

597
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Speaker 3: Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 4: They'd be lower. It's a really bad love, horrid lim

599
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Speaker 4: It's it's just a good team, but they can get crushed.

600
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Speaker 4: But it wasn't all that much different than the Denver loss.

601
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Speaker 1: UH at twenty one down one spot to Titans.

602
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Speaker 4: They'd be lower. They're struggling. The bad they're bad, they're past,

603
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 4: defense stinks, offense did nothing. They'd be much lower.

604
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Speaker 3: At twenty up one spot coming off a loss the

605
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Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

606
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Speaker 5: Who's better the Bucks or the Rams?

607
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: The Rams?

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Speaker 4: I think so too, you know, like I lumped them

609
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Speaker 4: together in the preseason a lot, you know, like they

610
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Speaker 4: both got their ring lately, alley of all kinds of

611
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 4: cat problems. It's going to be a rebuild, tear it down.

612
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Speaker 1: The defense isn't a disaster, even though you don't know

613
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Speaker 1: any of the names.

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00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 4: Right, but both those teams are better than they expected.

615
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Rams. My reason for picking the Rams is

616
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Speaker 1: they're better quarterback.

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Speaker 4: They are better quarterback. Yeah, and it's not even close close. No,

618
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Speaker 4: Stafford's the dude.

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Speaker 1: UH at nineteen down eight spots.

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Speaker 3: These guys should be way lower. The Jets, Yeah, like

621
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Speaker 3: you were, they were.

622
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Speaker 5: Way too They beat.

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Speaker 1: You're way too high in the Jets, and you haven't

624
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Speaker 1: adjusted for the fact that they don't have.

625
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 4: A cornerback quarterback on an offense, and the defense is

626
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Speaker 4: starting to show signs of being out there for forty

627
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Speaker 4: minutes a game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just where to live.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Wilson's much worse than Daubs. Yeah, I mean I'm

630
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Speaker 4: talking about like and much worse.

631
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Speaker 3: Than If we start ranking quarterbacks here, yeah, and you

632
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 3: just do the at.

633
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Speaker 1: A soft quarterback rankings, the Jets are like thirtieth.

634
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Speaker 5: They might be thirty two.

635
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: Well I'm not giving Despica and I will Sam.

636
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 4: Howell, but like that's where the Jets should be if

637
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 4: they had Baker Mayfield as our quarterback. Yeah, who's not good,

638
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 4: you know, right, but at least he's an NFL quarterback.

639
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: The Jets play any of these teams below them, they're

640
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 3: probably a good chance they lose those games.

641
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 4: I don't know if they beat the Raiders, yeah, you know,

642
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 4: I mean I think that's where they belong. It's like

643
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 4: eight spots lower than that.

644
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 3: At eighteen up seven spots because well, they beat the

645
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 3: Jets last week?

646
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: Are the Patriots? Are you kidding me?

647
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 4: But who's better than them that we've said.

648
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 5: I say the Rams Minnesota, Minnesota is way too low.

649
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 5: Colts are Patriots.

650
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 1: I'll take the Colts right now.

651
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 5: Take the Colts.

652
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take the Colts. I'll take that. You know,

653
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: that's way too high.

654
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 5: We might impress with the teams below them.

655
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Speaker 3: So those two teams move to combine fifteen spots based

656
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 3: off of their big fifteen to ten win over the

657
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Speaker 3: Jets this weekend.

658
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, Yeah, that's a bit of an

659
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 4: overreaction for a pretty even game.

660
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 5: Really.

661
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, at seventeen down three spots are the Falcons?

662
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: Remember that just because of the teams we mentioned are

663
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 4: not impressive. Yeah, I think the Falcons are better than

664
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 4: the Patriots.

665
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: I think the Falcons just beat up on bad teams.

666
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 5: They do.

667
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 4: I think that's who they are. They beat bad teams,

668
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 4: and lucky for them, there's a lot of them on

669
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 4: their schedule. Yeah, you know, but I don't know if

670
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 4: they're better than the Bikes, and I.

671
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 3: Would pick I'd picked the Vikings if they're playing today

672
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 3: at sixteen up one spot the Pittsburgh Steelers.

673
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 5: They must have been.

674
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 3: They were they were at seventeen, Yeah, they were down.

675
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 3: I think at like nineteen after.

676
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 4: Week, I wonder how lowly they was their lowest point.

677
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 4: I would have them over every team mentioned. Yeah, I'd

678
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 4: have them over the Jags.

679
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: Who has been I would have them over the Jet. Well,

680
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: let's see who else is above them here at fifteen

681
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: are the Chargers.

682
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,959
Speaker 4: Have a hard time ranking the Chargers? Their offense has

683
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 4: been awesome?

684
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: Well, is it going to be as as awesome without

685
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: Mike Williams. That's problem because now you're playing without a

686
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: Kolar and without Williams, we still don't know when Ekolar

687
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:12,239
Speaker 3: is coming back.

688
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 4: About to say, do we have any news on that?

689
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 4: Herbert's playing like a top five guy? Defense is horrendous.

690
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: They should have.

691
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: They very easily should have lost that Minnesota's clock management

692
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: at the end of that game, they completed a pass,

693
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: they had no timeouts left, they complete a pass like

694
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: the eight with thirty six seconds left, didn't snap, didn't

695
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: snap the ball again until they were like six seconds left.

696
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: That was the last play of the game.

697
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: Like, what are you doing?

698
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 4: So power ranks are here for us to pick on,

699
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 4: and you know, so be it. I've written my share

700
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 4: and I get yelled at are the Chargers and Vikes

701
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 4: any different, Not really, no, one bit about the same.

702
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, neither one of them plays a lock of defense.

703
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 5: Chargers don't run the ball anymore today.

704
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 3: To Derwin, James is probably out this week for the Charge.

705
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

706
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: Like, no, they're not the fifteenth.

707
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 4: Just saw each other, right, Yeah, I mean Chargers and

708
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 4: Vikes aren't the twenty eighth or whatever.

709
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 5: No.

710
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: At fourteen the New Orleans Saints.

711
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 4: They really play good d quarterback question now clouds that

712
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 4: a little.

713
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jamis Winston, It's just eh.

714
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 4: I I'm excited to watch him for a game War

715
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 4: two because I think he's fun and I'm a believer

716
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 4: way back when. But Saints VARs Steelers is probably a

717
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 4: coin flip for me.

718
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 3: At thirteen, down four spots are the one and two Jaguars.

719
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: Nobody again, they can't quit him. It's like it's like

720
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: it's like the same thing after you know, after the

721
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers injury in Week one, you you bump the

722
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 3: Jets down like one spot.

723
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,239
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, come on.

724
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, So this is a case of had the Jags

725
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 4: probably seven or eight in the preseason super excited about him.

726
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 4: Lawrence is going to be MVP type of guy here

727
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 4: before you know it, and then not watching the games

728
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 4: or paying you know, paying attention to what they're the

729
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 4: product they're putting on the field right the product's bad

730
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 4: right now.

731
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: For that, they're one and two.

732
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 5: They're one and two.

733
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: At twelve up. Three spots are the Seahawks.

734
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: The Steelers are a better team than the Seahawks right

735
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: now on on a on a neutral field, They're a

736
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: better football team.

737
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

738
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: Now, I understand they got to go.

739
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: To Seattle at the end of the year. Yeah, I'll

740
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 3: probably end up picking the Seahawks in that game. But

741
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: I don't think they're a good football team.

742
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 4: There's a lot of teams you mentioned I don't think

743
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 4: of good football teams either, though I wouldn't have them

744
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 4: far off this spot.

745
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, are the Steelers better than the Seahawks

746
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: right now?

747
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 5: I think they would say yes. Do you think the

748
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 5: Saints are better?

749
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think that's a toss up.

750
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: I think the Saints defense would give them troubles, but

751
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 3: I think the Steelers defense would give the Saints trouble.

752
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: They can't run the football right now.

753
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 5: No, No, I agreed.

754
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 3: At eleven up a spot the Bengals. Now I understand,

755
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 3: notice you can't bang they're not playing good football right now.

756
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I used to do power ranks every Tuesday

757
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 4: every year that I was at ESPN for the podcast.

758
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 4: And can't stress us enough that to do power ranks properly,

759
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 4: you have to judge a team where they're at that

760
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 4: minute that minute, not you know, I think they'll be

761
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 4: good next week, or they got an easy schedule, or

762
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,239
Speaker 4: you know, blah blah blah. Bengals are getting by. They

763
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 4: got bye last night.

764
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: That's what they did. They got by.

765
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

766
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: I think I said yesterday their defense would have to

767
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 3: win the game for them. It kind of did.

768
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: And Jamar chase it. Jamar chasing the defense.

769
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow looks like garbage right now. Right he looks

770
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: like Joe average.

771
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 4: They're dragging him on along like he's a caboose where

772
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 4: he's used to be a locomotive, you know, like they.

773
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: Don't they don't even temp passes down the field.

774
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 5: No, And he doesn't move well, and he doesn't trust

775
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 5: himself at the moment, and he's getting it back a little.

776
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: But at this point in the season, they're fortunate that

777
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 3: they don't play the Steelers at this point. A team

778
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: that rushes the passer, well, if I mean he can't

779
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: get away, he can't get of his own way right now.

780
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 5: And they did some good things.

781
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 4: They've mean, they controlled the clock, they didn't even run

782
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 4: the ball that well. Chase was a star, and they

783
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 4: got him the ball over and over, which was great

784
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 4: in the defense. When it got to the point where

785
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 4: they could rush the passer like crazy, they did, and

786
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: guys like Dax Hill and Hendrickson had big games. But

787
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 4: that was getting by somebody said for that. But they're

788
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 4: they're they're the next good team right now.

789
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 3: Their next three games are at the Titans, at the Cardinals,

790
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: and at home against the Seahawks, and then then there's

791
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 3: a buye then they get their bye like they're kind

792
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 3: of limping to the bye here with.

793
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: Proverbally or and or figuratively and literally.

794
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: So what's interesting is I looked at that today too,

795
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 4: just coincidentally, because those next three games don't look awful.

796
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 5: Would you say? It was at Arizona, at Tennessee.

797
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: At Tennessee this week at Arizona and then at home

798
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: against Seattle.

799
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 4: Which you should able to survive. It you know you're

800
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 4: not gonna I bet you don't sweep them then if

801
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 4: you're buy and you hope Joe's okay after that, because

802
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 4: then they go to the Niners. Then they host the

803
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 4: Bills out of the bye. So like, you better put

804
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 4: some money in the bank now and he better be

805
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 4: healthy after the buye or the season will be over.

806
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:16,959
Speaker 1: Yeah.

807
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 3: Well, the problem is that you know when you keep

808
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 3: sending him out there again. He came up a little

809
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 3: lame last night.

810
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 5: Again.

811
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, every time he has to run, he reaggravates that thing.

812
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 5: I bet every time he throws, he feels I would I.

813
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 3: Would blitz him like crazy, are you going to give

814
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 3: up some place?

815
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what the Browns did in Week one, But

816
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 4: I would, I would sma from crazy.

817
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: I would send defensive backs anything to make him move

818
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: off of his spot because he can't throw come moving off.

819
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 5: Of his spacer.

820
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 4: Higgins might have big numbers when it's all said and done,

821
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 4: but Burrow is going.

822
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 5: To be a disaster.

823
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

824
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're not running the ball, No.

825
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: Not at all.

826
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: Uh at ten up eight spots the Packers. That's too

827
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: high on the Packers.

828
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, but all these teams sound like they're too high.

829
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: I understand that, but I.

830
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 5: Mean they're an above average team, and I mean that

831
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 5: is I.

832
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 4: Don't know if they should have lost to the Saints,

833
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 4: and then they did the opposite this week. They came

834
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 4: back as opposed to letting the game.

835
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: No, this that was against the Saints. This week, they

836
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: they they should have lost. They were down seventeen nothing

837
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: in the second half, Like.

838
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 4: And Love's been good but uneven.

839
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, third downs. He was like, oh for his first seven, Like,

840
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 3: wasn't close he was. He was getting booed at home.

841
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 4: They're another team that needs to get guys back. They yeah, Jones,

842
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 4: but that neighborhood's weird.

843
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: It is weird.

844
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: I mean I understand that. Yeah, uh at nine up

845
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 3: four spots are the Browns.

846
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 4: People are dislike this. I would actually have them higher,

847
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: and then we'll get to it in a minute. I

848
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 4: won't let me defend myself on that. In about two packs.

849
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: I don't know that I can go higher than that.

850
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 5: Just because I don't think any of these teams are

851
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 5: good above them. I know who's coming, I.

852
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: Know who's coming to right right. I don't know if

853
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: they're better than them or not. I don't know, I don't.

854
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 4: Know without seeing these power ranks. I'll tell you what

855
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 4: I said today is there was five teams to me

856
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 4: in Tier one. There's one team that stood alone for

857
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 4: me at number six, and then I put the Browns

858
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 4: at seven. Way by default.

859
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 3: I don't trust de Shan Watson at all.

860
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 5: I don't either, And if they were at Chubb, I

861
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 5: would have said, okay.

862
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: With shub Okay, I get it, and I can't wait that.

863
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 4: But their defense has been as good as Miami's offense,

864
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: and these teams that are coming up aren't that good either.

865
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: At eight down a one spot Baltimore they dropped one

866
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 3: spot based off of that that loss.

867
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 5: Has Baltimore really had a better year than Steelers. No,

868
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 5: it's pretty equal.

869
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 3: The Steelers will play all three of those same teams

870
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: that the Ravens have played the already, they'll beat all three.

871
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 5: Of them, probably probably right.

872
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 3: I mean I again, I watched that game against against Indianapolis.

873
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I would you know.

874
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 4: So that's and probably whatever this next team is on

875
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 4: which we figure out.

876
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: What I don't think is that there's a seven spot

877
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 3: difference between the Browns and Steelers.

878
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 4: Agreed, Like seven to me is the weird spot in

879
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 4: the whole power run. Yeah, because I don't want to

880
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 4: put anyone there. That's why I put the Browns.

881
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 1: And seven are the Lions.

882
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 4: That was the other one I considered, so I'll give them.

883
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I was torn between the Lions and Browns.

884
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 5: Lions.

885
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 4: D was really good this week, which I didn't see coming,

886
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 4: and I trust their offense.

887
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: At six down two spots of the Cowboys.

888
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 4: That's what they were my six. They couldn't be in

889
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 4: the top five. All the sevens and belows are the

890
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 4: and it was a bad loss. But if I stand

891
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 4: by my power rank rules, and the Cowboys and Cardinals

892
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 4: play one hundred and eleven times in Wichita, Kansas, I

893
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 4: think they win eighty five of them.

894
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 5: But not Sunday.

895
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: At some point this year, I'm going to get you

897
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 3: to admit that Dak Prescott is not a great core

898
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 3: He's not.

899
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 4: He's a dreadful interception that's who he is. I don't

900
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 4: think that that's who he is.

901
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: He turns the ball over way too much to be

902
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: an elite quarterback.

903
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 4: Their red zone was horrendous and their run defense was horrendous,

904
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 4: and he threw a hur horrendous pick. But I think

905
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 4: there are a much better team than the Cardinals.

906
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: At five, So these five can go up a spot

907
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: as Buffalo.

908
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 4: I had them a little higher, but I get it.

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00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: At four down a spot are the Eagles.

910
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 4: Now I had them at five. I don't think they're

911
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 4: quite clicking yet, but they're running over everybody.

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00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 1: At three down a spot are the Chiefs.

914
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 4: Okay, I had Bills, three Chiefs for Eagles five.

915
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: Two down a spot are the forty nine ers and

916
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Speaker 3: he has bumped the Miami Dolphins up four spots to

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Speaker 3: number one.

918
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 5: I have those two flipped. I have the Niners still

919
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 5: number one.

920
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 1: I think the Niners are still there.

921
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 5: Are more complete team.

922
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Dolphins are. They played they played

923
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 3: an awful Denver team, awful.

924
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 4: So along those lines, we get Dolphins Bills this week

925
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 4: and we get Denver Bears.

926
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: Yay. Yeah, how about that.

927
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 4: One battle for thirty two?

928
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: I think there's there are four winless teams remaining in

929
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 3: the league and they all play each other this week.

930
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: No really, yeah, so somebody's we're going to be down

931
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 3: to two winless teams at the end of this week.

932
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 5: There you go. Wow?

933
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, those bottom two are really bad, really bad. The

934
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 4: Bears have the worst offense and defense in the league.

935
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 4: They're the only team I think they can compete for

936
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 4: that honor.

937
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 3: That's quite the honest. They spent a lot of money

938
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 3: this offseason to be that bad.

939
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 4: To be that bad the worst offense and defense.

940
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Anyways, we're gonna get to another break. He is

941
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942
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943
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Speaker 3: be back with more in the Drive right after this.

944
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Speaker 3: He is Matt Williamson, and this is the Drive on

954
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Speaker 3: Steelers Nation Radio and Matt. We were just talking about

955
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 3: the the games last night, uh, and the NFL shows

956
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: in the offseason not to eliminate the quarterback sneak, toush, push,

957
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it. That the that the

958
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles do.

959
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 5: And other teams are catching on pretty quick.

960
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I saw somebody, uh posted on Twitter, how

961
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: do you stop this? First of all, you stop it

962
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 3: by not allowing them to get to the one yard line.

963
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: That would be wondoad way to do it. But yeah,

964
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: don't let that happen. But secondly, I mean you're almost

965
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 3: by continuing to do it, inviting the other team to

966
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: come up with something I don't want to say dirty,

967
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: because if the quarterback's a ball carrier and you hit

968
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 3: him in the helmet, it's it's a it's a legal play,

969
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: but you're kind of inviting your quarterback to get hurt.

970
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 4: You really are it is? I mean, I kind of

971
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 4: was hoping the rule would get passed that you can't

972
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 4: do it because I don't think it's fun to watch.

973
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 4: It's it's so automatic, so I understand it. And if

974
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 4: we were doing Eagles Nation Radio, I'd be like, Wow, No,

975
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 4: one's great, try to stop it. Yeah, it's a big,

976
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 4: strong quarterback behind a great line with people pushing them stopping.

977
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 4: It's gonna be really, really tough. But we were talking

978
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 4: off the air, and you know, you go down that

979
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 4: road too. What someone's gonna get hurt bad doing it though,

980
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 4: in my opinion, because you do expose yourself to helmet

981
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 4: hits without question. It's a lot of bodies squashed into

982
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 4: a small area and that quarterback it's almost like someone's

983
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 4: pushing you down the steps, you know, like you don't

984
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 4: really have control of your body and you could get

985
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 4: your legs under your goofy or I don't want to

986
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 4: say like a Nick Chubb situation, because I don't think

987
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 4: it could.

988
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 5: Be that bad.

989
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 4: But your hips and your back and you know you're

990
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 4: getting pushed in without your body and control, and that

991
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 4: would worry me.

992
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: I would I would put as many big bodies on

993
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 3: the field and I would I would put them all

994
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: in the middle of the line and say, Okay, you're

995
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 3: gonna you're gonna try to do this. I'm gonna have

996
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 3: seven three hundred pounders just blasting the line of scrimmage

997
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 3: right in the middle. Okay, you're not We're not going

998
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: to let you do that. I don't know if it

999
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 3: would work.

1000
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 4: If you're gonna bootleg out and have that throw the

1001
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 4: wide open one to the tackle eligible or god or haveever. Okay, fine,

1002
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 4: And i'd also have paul A Malou sitting there five

1003
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 4: yards coming over the top. Yeah, Walter Payton or you know,

1004
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 4: somebody's gonna go over the top and at least gonna

1005
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 4: make contact with him, probably high.

1006
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, so be it.

1007
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 4: I mean, if Walter Payton's going over the top, you're

1008
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 4: allowed to meet him halfway there.

1009
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 3: Right when the quarterback has the ball like that and

1010
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 3: he's running, he's a runner, he's leading with his head,

1011
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 3: he's leading with this heat. Again, you get a shot

1012
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 3: at him. He has no protections there.

1013
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 4: And we've talked about this a lot in different capacities,

1014
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 4: usually when I was playing lamar Or. I always remember

1015
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 4: the day Thursday night when they played Cam Newton and

1016
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 4: McCaffrey here on a Thursday night. If you're gonna allow

1017
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 4: me to hit your quarterback, I'm gonna I'm gonna do it.

1018
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do it.

1019
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and preferably with James Harrison or Jack Lambert or

1020
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 4: Joe Green or somebody that's gonna make you.

1021
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 5: Feel it, you know.

1022
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, So if you're putting your quarterback there exposed, I'm

1023
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 4: gonna take the gift.

1024
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 3: I have no problem whatsoever with a regular quarterback sneak,

1025
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 3: of course. I mean it's it's a legal play. It

1026
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 3: is what it is, pushing the quarterback from behind into

1027
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 3: the end zone.

1028
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 4: I don't like that. I don't think you should ever

1029
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 4: be able to aid ball carriers, right, yeah. I mean

1030
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 4: even over the years, you see a scrum and a

1031
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 4: guard comes flying from.

1032
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 3: Four yards, that's what injuries you're not you know, for

1033
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 3: a long time you weren't allowed to do that.

1034
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: Right because I mean, as a ballcarrier, my whole goals

1035
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 4: is getting the end zone, of course, But do I

1036
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 4: really want wolf running in for five yards and putting

1037
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 4: this head and shoulders into my back, you know, and

1038
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,959
Speaker 4: I don't know what's coming to drive me through.

1039
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: I don't want that normal, right, you know.

1040
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 5: What I mean?

1041
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 4: Like it just I don't think you should be able

1042
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 4: to eat a ball carrier. Should just be the rule. Yeah,

1043
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 4: you know, and that's what they're doing.

1044
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: That's exactly what they're doing.

1045
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they won, crazy, Yeah, they won the Bengals

1046
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 3: got their win.

1047
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 1: I didn't think the Bengals look particularly good.

1048
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 4: Real quick back to Hurts. He's playing fine, but he's

1049
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 4: not playing like an MVP type now yet or maybe

1050
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 4: he won't.

1051
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: Well, you know by the end of the year.

1052
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 3: You know, Jalen Hurts has twenty touchdown passes and he's

1053
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 3: rushed for seventeen touchdowns.

1054
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 4: Total eighteen yards.

1055
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: They're not rushing plays.

1056
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he's not running.

1057
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: He's a vessel. And that's what they could put me

1058
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: at quarterback.

1059
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 3: I could take that snap and if somebody, if I've

1060
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 3: got three big guys behind me shoving me into the

1061
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 3: end zone, I'm going.

1062
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 5: To get into the end zone whether I want to

1063
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 5: or not.

1064
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I might get I might die. But it's not

1065
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 3: a rushing touchdown.

1066
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 5: It just isn't.

1067
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 4: I just think the Eagles are sort of interesting right now.

1068
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 4: They're winning, they're running the ball with running backs mostly

1069
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 4: in controlling the flow games, but they don't look quite

1070
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 4: the way they were last year.

1071
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: It's an interesting thing, like kind of like what Mike

1072
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 3: Tomlin said today, We're still growing, we're still getting better,

1073
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 3: but we're winning along the way, and that's what you

1074
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: want to do. That's what you want to do. You

1075
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 3: don't want to be playing your best football right now.

1076
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 3: You want to be playing your best football at the

1077
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: end of the year.

1078
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 5: Now.

1079
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 4: Frankly, I think that's what Baltimore did through two weeks.

1080
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,959
Speaker 4: They weren't particularly impressive, but they were they won along. Yeah,

1081
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 4: you know, good, okay, good for you. And then you didn't,

1082
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:27,959
Speaker 4: you know, and then.

1083
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 3: You didn't and we're gonna get to another break. He

1084
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 3: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lallie. You're listening to

1085
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 3: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.