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Speaker 1: I want to welcome you to the program. Thank you

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Speaker 1: Well, thanks for being here. You have some things going

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Speaker 2: Tutor? This is an utter failure of the judicial system.

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Speaker 2: Today is a very dark day. And if you could

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Speaker 2: look at my text feat today from survivors of trafficking

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Speaker 2: texting me organizations in the fight, they are they are demotivated.

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Speaker 2: Ventura likeded it with Virginia Guffrey and then to have

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Speaker 2: the justice system fail again. This case was not built

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Speaker 1: It's all good that they because your sister was trafficked

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Speaker 2: of according to them, right, and so yes, transportation prostitution

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Speaker 2: You're going to see this guy make records and people

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Speaker 2: It is an absolute dismantling of the American culture, one

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Speaker 2: It doesn't. It's slavery for straight up slavery in a

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Speaker 1: This is why I wanted to have you on because

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Speaker 1: I knew you would speak truth and I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: And I thank you and I want to you know, well,

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Speaker 1: I'll have you back on the podcast. And that's why

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Speaker 1: I tell people go to the podcast, to the Tutor

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Speaker 1: Dixon podcast at Tutor Dixon.

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Speaker 2: Check it out.

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Speaker 1: We've had yaku on several times. Yakuboyans, thank you so

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Tutor