1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles ahead. 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: He got Jack. This is the Big Red Ray presented 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: by Santanford in Gilbert. Harry's gonna score touchdown. That's over, 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: Bets goes up and begs the game. When it catch 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: Larry Luncheon does it again. The Rage is brought to 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: you by her satan Ford in Gilbert. Or are you 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: Santanford State Farm Talk to an agent today at eight 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: hundred State Farm and buy Arizona Cardinals podcasts, Visit Acy 9 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com, Slash podcasts, The Rods, Rising Guard, Temperaturizing Vision, 10 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: flurring Rage, taking it over. Here's Paul KELVC. Get the 11 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: popcorn ready, It's gonna be a show and Ron will flip. 12 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't get any better than that. Unleash the far 13 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: was a couple weeks ago Wolf that we began the 14 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: Big Red Rage by confirming that yes, you can have 15 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: a touchdown in the off season the Mars roll, you know, 16 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: touchdown confirmed. We get it. Paul, Well, I just bring 17 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: that up not only because I gave you and pass 18 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: your touchdown call this coming season, but you know, the 19 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: only thing better than NASA landing on the red planet 20 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: would be what we've seen from Baker Mayfield. Here, a 21 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback with a UFO sighting. Have you seen that, wolf? 22 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: I honestly, Paul, I heard about it, but I have 23 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: not seen it. Paul, Well, he tweeted out, quote almost 24 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: one p m. And I his wife just saw UFO 25 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: drops straight out of the sky on our way home 26 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: from dinner. This is central Texas now, and it was 27 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: a very bright ball of light, he said, coming down 28 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: straight out of the sky. So yeah, Baker Mayfield thirty 29 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: touchdowns last year, what nine interceptions in eighteen games and 30 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: one UFO sighting. And by the way, Wolf, I bring 31 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: this up because they're been reports that during the pandemic, 32 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: UFO sightings are up fifty one percent. Oh I bet 33 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: they are. Poll I guarantee you. So it is a 34 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: liquor cabinet. I'm just saying right now, Polly, Honestly, it 35 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: wasn't a UFO. Absolutely, there are UFOs happen every day, Paul, 36 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: in this country. UFOs are everywhere. They're called unidentified flying objects, 37 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: that's what they're called, Polly, and we see them all 38 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: the time. There's just one big difference. There's not a 39 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: bunch of little green men inside them, paul. So we 40 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: bring that up to start Big Red Rage presented by 41 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford to show 42 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: the difference between almost one hundred percent according to Baker 43 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: Mayfield and one extremely real in the acquisition of J. J. Watt. 44 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: That is real, that just happened. Well, it does not. 45 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: Do you believe that, Polly, Honestly? Right now, this is very, 46 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: very similar to the DeAndre Hopkins deal. When it came down. 47 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: You woke up the next day and you kept saying, 48 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: you know what, Wow, we got this. So we got 49 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: we got d hop Man, we got DeAndre Hopkins, and 50 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: you really could not believe it right now. And I'll listen, 51 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: JJ Watt is a big name, There's no doubt about it. 52 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: And if he stays healthy to me, Paulie, and I'm 53 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: going to continue to say that because I think it 54 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: is a valid thing to say in regard to a 55 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: guy that's missed thirty two games over the last five years. 56 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: But if he stays healthy, I'm telling you're right now, 57 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a slam donk. I mean, You've 58 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: got think about if hbo hard knocks ever did an 59 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: offseason edition of Hard Knocks to your earlier point, Think 60 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: of the last three off seasons for the Arizona Cardinals, 61 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, DeAndre Hopkins, and now JJ Watt. You're saying 62 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: it's pretty good? Is that you know it's not exactly 63 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: the off season. There's been a lot of really juicy 64 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: storylines and now you wonder, okay, what else might be 65 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: coming when you hear Steve Kyme and Michael Bidwell has 66 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: said it again this week's Serious NFL Radio about how 67 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: there's going to be quote a seismic shift end quote 68 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: in talent across the NFL. Oh that what's coming in 69 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: the next two weeks. Most of us don't expect the 70 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: magnitude of movement when it comes to players. We've already 71 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: seen some big names and big contracts gets sliced from 72 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: team's payrolls. But there's gonna be a lot of players moving, 73 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a lot of new acquisitions, and 74 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: with the Arizona Cardinals having twenty eight unrestricted free agents 75 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: going into this offseason, the potential to have a radically 76 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: different roster, I mean j. J. Watt might just be 77 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: the start. Oh yeah, Pauli. No, I don't. I don't 78 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: think there's any question about that. Did you see that 79 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: cut by Michael too, that quote by Michael when National? 80 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that Bolli this morning. 81 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they were doing it on what does Greenbird 82 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: Show get up? Or something like that. They actually had 83 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: that quote, and then we're talking about it. This free 84 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: agent period coming up in the National Football League, it's 85 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: gonna be unlike anything we have ever seen before. Speaking 86 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: of UFOs Paulli, this is going to be an unidentified 87 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: free a period. Well, Joe Banner now he can say 88 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: things because he's a former executive with the Eagles and 89 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: the Browns. He tweeted out earlier today the league is 90 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: about to go through four of the more interesting weeks ever, 91 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: and he talked about all the change and what's going 92 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: on behind the scenes. He says it's going to be 93 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: a great opportunity for smart teams. Tweet and tweet from 94 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: Joe Banners. So TikTok, something is coming on that front 95 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: with the league years starting March seventeenth. Here tonight on 96 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage Vans Joseph, Yeah, defensive coordinators come 97 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: and can't wait for that and we'll get we'll set 98 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: the table for Vance Joseph. Next on the Big Red 99 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert Stafford under center 100 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: office that I'm behind him and heat Ran leaders. It 101 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: is the tailback receivers left and right. Here's the snap 102 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: Stafford back to past books. Who's out upside intercepted by 103 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: j J One and he's gonna take it in for 104 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: a touchdown. Matthew Stafford trying to make a quick broad 105 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: J J. Watt reached up, snatch down of the air 106 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: and were runs in for six Qustwood one. That was 107 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: from Thanksgiving Day this past season. It's tradition to Detroit. 108 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: You watch the Lions on Thanksgiving Day in Motown, trying 109 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: not to lose your appetite and then sit down with 110 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: the family board Thanksgiving dinner. JJ Watt the nineteen yard 111 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: pick six. Welcome back into the Big Red Rage presented 112 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: by satan Ford and Gilbert We are satan Ford, Paul 113 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: kelvc Ron Wolfley, soon to be joined by defensive coordinator 114 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: Vance Joseph. But wolf like you mentioned it earlier, who 115 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: was that moment when the Cardinals made the deal for 116 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins and we remember exactly where we were at 117 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: that exact moment, not unlike earlier this week. And where 118 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: were you, Ron Wolfleet when the news broke that. Jj 119 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: Watt when he sent out the sweet said source me 120 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: and he reported he was coming to the as. Yeah, 121 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: that blew my mind. Paul. It was actually on the 122 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: treadmill over at the compound by the way, Paully, Yeah, 123 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: getting in my five miles, Paul, my five miles on 124 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: the treadmoll mill. Listen, you might want to make a 125 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: tent wolf figure right now. It wasn't like I was 126 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: sprinting on It's okay, Paul, it's a jog. It's called 127 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: the jog at the compound here. Okay, five miles per hour, 128 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: and that's what I was doing. I was run. I 129 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: was on the dread mill, and Polly, I could not 130 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: believe it when I actually saw it. When you're done 131 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: with a treadmill, wolf, do you do what JJ Watt 132 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: tweeted out today? Did you see the picture of how 133 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: he finished up his workout in Wisconsin on a frozen lake, 134 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: taking an ice bath, cutting a hole in the ice, 135 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: and instead of ice fishing, he dunked himself in the 136 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: water for an ice bath. No, Polly, I did not 137 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: see that, by the way, And you've got to be 138 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: kidding me. This is the kind of guy, though, that 139 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals are getting. This is a you know what. 140 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: It takes the body, it takes the soul, and it 141 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: takes the spirit to play the game of football. And 142 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: this guy's got all three things together. There's no denying it. 143 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: This guy is a football player through and through. He's 144 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: going to increase the physicality of this team. You know, Polly, 145 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: this is something I've been talking about all off season. 146 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: This is not an accident suddenly that you go out 147 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: and get a guy like JJ Watt put his hand 148 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: in the dirt. He makes you more physical on the 149 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and both sides of the ball. I 150 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: think the Cardinals have got to get more physical and 151 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: this goes a long way in solving that issue. Cardinals 152 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: made the deal. I tweeted out the Arizona Cardinals just 153 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: to trust their biggest offseason need. Inconsistent energy, inconsistent intensity, 154 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: inconsistent urgency. There you go, Polly, here's a guy that 155 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: to me, he's going to set the tone. All the 156 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: above doesn't take a playoff. You're a Cliff Kingsbury talk 157 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: about it today, not unlike a Tom Brady. His teammates 158 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: don't want to disappoint him. Here in Michael Bidwell mentioned 159 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: culture and leadership. Steve Kim echoed as well, to your point, 160 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: it's not a mistake that they signed a guy like 161 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: JJ Watt and they were willing to pay them. That's 162 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: sort of guaranteed money based on what we saw a 163 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: year ago, which to me bigger than any position group 164 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: or any single player. The biggest problem last year was 165 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: Week sixteen, coming out with all the intensity of a 166 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: preseason game. Paul, I mean, honestly right now, that is 167 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: That's something that the two biggest things you and I 168 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: have been talking about this offseason. I'm big red rage. 169 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: It's the physicality of this team. I want to see 170 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: this team hopefully get more physical on the line of 171 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: scrimmage specifically. And then of course it was culter, who 172 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: are we We've got to build an identity here as 173 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: to who we are and how we do things and 174 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: how we go about our business for the most party, 175 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: and I think JJ Watt is a great guy to 176 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: build around. From that point, what you need our dogs Paul. 177 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: You need those dogs in the locker room, right, you 178 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: need one dog to become two dogs, and then and 179 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 1: then sixteen, and all of a sudden, you've got this 180 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: little daggle of dogs in that locker room. And you 181 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: know what happens, Pouly, the cats start barking. Yeah, a 182 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: few years ago it revolved around Klaias Campbell. Before that, 183 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: Tyrn Matthew, Now I think you have that guy back. 184 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: And when he flew in with Michael Bidwell on Redbird one, 185 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: he got off the plane and had this to say, 186 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm very excited. My wife and I are very excited 187 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: to be here. Mister Bidwell, Steve, everybody here has been 188 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: unbelievable so far, and I'm just excited to get started. 189 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: I'm very excited to get started, to get to work, 190 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: get to know the people of Arizona, and to go 191 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: to work to try and help win a championship. The 192 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: one thing that I can promise you is I'm gonna 193 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: work my ass off every single day to make you proud. 194 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: And I'm very proud to be a part of the 195 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: Bird gang in the Red Sea. So let's get started. 196 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: Rand I love that Polly right there, honestly right. I mean, listen, 197 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: He's not coming in here saying, oh, We're out of 198 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: the souper ball and I'm gonna have twenty sacks, and 199 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: who's not promising anything like that. What I loved is 200 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: he is promising what he can control, and what he 201 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: can control is his effort. I love that promise by 202 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: jj Watt. Most sacks since twenty twelve, Chandler Jones number one, 203 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: ninety seven, JJ Watt, number two in the NFL ninety 204 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: five and a half Pro Football Focus. The highest graded 205 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: edge rushers since twenty eighteen number one, Khalil Mac number 206 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: two t j Watt, number three jj Watt. Well, and 207 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: here's a guy who led the NFL last year according 208 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: to the analytics in drawing double teams with Chandler Jones. 209 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: That's not likely to happen again. So what does that 210 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: mean for the Cardinals defense? We have questions. Van's Joseph, 211 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, is just the guy to ask for 212 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: the answers. He is next on the big red range 213 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: powered by Santan Ford in Gilbert. Jj Watt has just 214 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: tweeted he has signed with the Arizona Cardinals. Whoa jj 215 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: Watt signing with the Arizona Cardinals that he came out 216 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: of nowhere. So this is it? Is it? Okay, let's go. 217 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: I love the fit. A massive deal for really one 218 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: of the more up and coming teams in the NFL. 219 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: JJ Watt coming to the NFC West. It just gets 220 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: better and better and better. That division is stacked. Oh 221 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: my gosh, that's an outstanding something. The cardinal's point of view, 222 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: this piece is the difference excited for Arizona Cardinals fans. 223 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: Look at Steve conn got is arrested. Push you Bucks 224 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: making a call. Let's go daj Wattigas he does this 225 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: little dam there's an instantaneous reaction for Pat McAfee, one 226 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: of the few guys that can match Ron wolfway energy 227 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: up off Matt preceded by Tom Pella, Sero, Ian Rappaboard, 228 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: Rich Eyes, and Colin Cowherd, Sage Steele, a medium montage buyer. 229 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: Jim Almahuandro there christening the arrival of JJ Watt to 230 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: the valley. And if we're fired up, and you know 231 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 1: we are, what about the defensive coordinator Ron Boefley, What 232 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: if your vance Joseph who joins us now on the 233 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: Big Red rate presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert Vance. 234 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: Do we need to ask you how you doing tonight? 235 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm good man, how are you guys? We're doing great, Vans. 236 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us party over at 237 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: the compound this weekend? Is that what it's going to be? Absolutely? 238 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: What were you know? One day? And after that it's 239 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: back to the business, you know, free agency and the 240 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: draft stuffs coming up. But obviously excitement this weekend in 241 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: the building there. So you heard the surprise from the 242 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: national media. I know locally none of us saw it coming. 243 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: Vegas didn't even see it coming. They had put ouns 244 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: out on where j J. Watt was going. Cardinals weren't 245 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: even listed. At what point because some report said you 246 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: ran point quote unquote on the recruiting effort as a 247 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: former coach on the Houston staff when JJ walk got 248 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: his start. So at what point in the process tell 249 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: us about the process did you get a real good 250 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: feel like, man, we've got a good shot here. Well, 251 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: when JJ first ash towards release out of Houston, Steve 252 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: called me and say what do you think? I said, well, 253 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: let's watch the film. Let's let's see what he has 254 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: left and after watching a film, man, I mean we 255 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: were really you know, it's not surprised, but I mean 256 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: he was. He was still making plays, he was still 257 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: winning one on once, he was getting double team an 258 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: awful lot. He played over a thousand snaps, and we thought, 259 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: you know, to build our defense and to get better quickly, 260 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: was to add a piece inside, you know, at the 261 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: at the five technique and free technique that can win 262 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: one on one where Chandler Jones coming back and hopefully 263 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: having a you know passon Reddick or Sam Backer outside 264 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: who can win one on once. I mean, he is 265 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: going to have a chance to you know, be a 266 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: real disruptor with our defense, you know. And after watching 267 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: the tape, I mean he was. He was still playing 268 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: well again, he was healthy, playing over a thousand snaps. 269 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: So it was a no brainer. So from that moment on, 270 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: it was a full court press on JJ. And the 271 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: bottom line, I mean, he wanted the process to be 272 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: really really quiet. He wanted to be you know, off 273 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: the off the radar sum So in our people in 274 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: the building did a great job of not you know, 275 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: not leaking that we were involved with we're trying to 276 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: sign JJ, and that part he respected. That was half 277 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: the reason he stayed with us, because it never got 278 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: out that we were involved with JJ. Obviously, he played 279 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: for me in Houston and he won his first, you know, 280 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: first Player of the Year award in this defense, you know, 281 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: so he knows how it works. He knows that he 282 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: can get one on ones, you know, on guards and 283 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: centers constantly in his defense. So it was a perfect fit. 284 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you know, Steve and 285 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: his team did a great job of making the financial 286 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: part work. You know, my guys on defense called him 287 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: and texted him and kind of showed him pick of 288 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: what it was going to be like. And it was 289 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: a perfect fit, you know. And obviously being in Arizona, 290 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is a great place to live, 291 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, you know, having hop here, having 292 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: Collar here, you know, I mean, it's a it's a 293 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: it's a really good young team. And he knew that, 294 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: you know, and he was he was he was excited 295 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: to be here, man. But I wasn't surprised when he 296 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: did signed because it was great conversations for weeks at 297 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: a time, you know, it was it was never a 298 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: time I thought we couldn't get him. You know, I 299 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: wasn't sure it was going to happen, but I you know, 300 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: it was. It was. It was constant, consistent communication on 301 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: a daily basis. So we stayed in the in the 302 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: mix the entire time. You know. One of the things 303 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: I love, Vans is the fact that you you have 304 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: a personal relationship with J. J. Watt. Of course going 305 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: all the way back to being the secondary coach in Houston. 306 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: What do you remember about J. J. Watt when you 307 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: were in Houston. Well, I remember when we drafted JJ, 308 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, and you know, we laugh about this all 309 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: the time about you know, in the in the in 310 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: the draft room on draft day, it was it was 311 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: really way that sold the GM on on JJ, you know, 312 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: because most of the room did not one JJ. It 313 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: was more about Cameron Jordan at the time. You know. 314 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: Even when we drafted JJ, it was kind of booze 315 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: in the in the in the Houston area, you know. 316 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: But Wade did a great job of knowing what he 317 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: was going to be, you know, and um and and 318 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: pushing to get JJ drafted there. But you know, it 319 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: was it was it was the year with the lockout, 320 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: you know, so we didn't have an off season at all. 321 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: You know, so all the rookies and veterans came in 322 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: and training camp, you know, proceeded and went to the season, 323 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: and he was playing good football, but he wasn't JJ 324 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: Watt into the playoffs and and that Week one playoffs 325 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: against the Bengals, man, he played his butt off and 326 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: from that moment on, he became JJ Watt. You know, 327 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: he was always a hard worker. He was always uh, 328 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, a high football like you guy. He was 329 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: always a playmaker. But it took him a while because 330 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: you know, we didn't have an off season. You know, 331 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: it took him about you know, fourteen to fifteen games 332 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: to hit his pece. He can. Once he hit it, man, 333 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: it never stopped. But his NonStop motor, his NonStop work 334 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: ethic was apparent day one, you know. And that chip 335 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: on his shoulder has never gone away, even to the day. 336 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: He's still cheated. You know. He was a walk on 337 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: at Central Michigan as a tight end. He walked on 338 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: at Wisconsin. You know, he got drafted in use and 339 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: everybody booed him. You know, so that chip on his 340 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: shoulder is still there, and that's what made him successful, 341 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: you know. Over his career, and at this moment right now, 342 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: you know he still steel cheated. You know he wants 343 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: to get back to playing dominant football. And you know 344 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: that's that part I welcome because I know JJ it's 345 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: going to work his butt off. He's going to be 346 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: a great example, He's going to be a great leader 347 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: for our locker room. But most of all, he's going 348 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 1: to be an impact player for on defense. Well, there 349 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: are three players in NFL history to win three NFL 350 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,959 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year awards, Lawrence Taylor, Aaron Donald 351 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: and j. J. Watt. So he wants first advanced Joseph 352 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: our guests the Cardinals defensive coordinator. It's all about You, 353 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. Let me ask you 354 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: what he does for your run defense because fans, no, 355 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: you finished in the bottom third. And if I saw 356 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: this right, he led the NFL and tackles for loss 357 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: against the run. Is that an underrated part of his game? 358 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: No doubt. You know, our run defense our first year 359 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: was pretty good. You know last year what it wasn't? 360 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: That's good? You know, And again I mean you can 361 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: you can determine, you know, how how good you want 362 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: to be in run defense because it's it's obviously if 363 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: you can, if you can play too high and play 364 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: shellots off the run, I mean, that's a that's a 365 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: dominant defense, you know. But um, you know, if you 366 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: have to load the box and add numbers, that makes 367 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: me vulnerable in the past game, you know. So he 368 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: has to pick in twos your moments. But last year 369 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't good enough in the run game, especially in 370 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: critical moments of the game like four minute and you 371 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: know first you know, first, first and ten, you know, 372 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: to get teams in a second and longer, you know. 373 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: But JJ has always been in and disruptor on first, second, 374 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: and third down, you know. And in this defense, as 375 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: the five technique is a four eye, I mean, he's 376 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: going to be at the point of attack on the 377 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: strong side, you know, so that that strong side power, 378 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: that strong side lead stuff won't won't crease us downhill, 379 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: and it's going to allow our backers to run free 380 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: and to make plays on the running game, you know. 381 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: So I mean he he just won't be a force 382 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: in the pass game, but in the run game alike, 383 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: with having chan back on the open sides and ball 384 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: can't go open side in the three four, it has 385 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: to go strong side, and so having a you know, 386 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: big time presence on side like JJ to push the 387 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: ball out to the Sam backer, that's going to help us. 388 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: You know, if you know, first, second, third down run pass, 389 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: he's going to be a plus to our defense. You know, 390 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: it's interesting vance you mentioned Chandler Jones right there. What's 391 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: more dangerous in your opinion, JJ Watt and Chandler Jones 392 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: running games on the same side of the ball or 393 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: rushing the pass around opposing edges. Well, I'll say this, 394 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: it's going to be times where they're gonna be on 395 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: the same side, you know, because the three technique you 396 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: know to the you know will backer side. You know, 397 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: if he's a if he's a hot and a gap 398 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: vertical guy in the B gap, it's gonna allow Chan 399 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: to have a two way go and it come under sometimes, 400 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: you know. So it's it's it's gonna be ton where 401 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna see JJ and Chan together, But most of 402 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: the time, you know, having those guys split, it's gonna 403 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: it's gonna make the offense be honest in protections. You know, 404 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: if if JJ is a four eye or a five technique, 405 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: it's no way they can double team him with a 406 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: Sam off the edge because the tackle has to go 407 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: to the Sam, right, Yeah, the center has to go 408 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: to the nose guard and that leaves that poor strong 409 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: sack guard one on one with JJ. And that's the 410 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: beauty of the three to four. You can you can 411 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: dictate who blocks whoo right, and if they keep the 412 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: tight end in and they chip to Sam background and 413 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: push the tackle to JJ, you know, I mean you 414 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: just basically play zone coverage in and I mean you're 415 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: playing four to two, you know, on on on top 416 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: of the receiver. So having a force inside of the 417 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: three four defense it's critical because you can now dictate 418 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: protections and they can't simply you know, bump the Sam 419 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: or our slide the chan Right, it's going to be fair, 420 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: and someone's going to get a one on one, and 421 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: most of the time it's the strong side end because 422 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: that the center has to go with the nose, the 423 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: tackle goes for the Sam, and that por strong side 424 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: guard has to block JJ one on one. And he 425 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: made his first Player the Year award in his defense, right, 426 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: And that was the reason he made it because he 427 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: got a bunch of one on ones inside and even 428 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: a running game. I mean he had a bunch of 429 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: TFLs that year and a bunch of sacks, you know, Alan, 430 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: so you know, I mean he's going to be a 431 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: force in a boat airs of defense running pass so 432 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: vancy makes the offense more predictable. Is that correct? Absolutely? 433 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: It absolutely does. I mean, if we can, if we 434 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: can dictate on on true passing downs that it's two 435 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: man routes. Now you're playing more zone and playing four 436 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: over two. You know, if they want to keep everybody 437 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: in and block JJ and wide and block channel and 438 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: block our sam backer, that's perfect. You know, we can 439 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: we can play more Sheldon played, you know, top down 440 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: quarter scoverage in and eat up two receivers with four dbs. 441 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: If they want to get five guys out, they have 442 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: to block those guys one on one, right, you know. 443 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: And that's the problem. And when you watch our take 444 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: from last year, we had a lot of times where 445 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: we had five guys Russian and they were one on one, 446 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: you know, and we didn't win quick enough. You know, 447 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: But with j D. Watt, who can still win one 448 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: on one. If they do that, he's gonna win quickly. 449 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: And it's gonna make it's gonna make our past defense better. 450 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: All I know is it's third and eleven and a 451 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: quarterback comes the line of scrimmage and he looks to 452 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: his left. He's got Chandler Jones. He looks to his right, 453 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: he's got JJ Watt And then he looks at Isaiah 454 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: Simmons mug in the A gap and Buddha Baker's flashing 455 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: from the other side. And there's a lot to consider 456 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: if you're a quarterback at that moment. And I get 457 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: all that and what he does for your defense, let 458 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: me ask you what does he do for your locker room? 459 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: Because you can't help. But notice how Cliff Kingsbury and 460 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: Steve Kime and Michael Bidwell Advance have all cited his 461 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: leadership and we did last year at times, intensity and 462 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: urgency and energy was inconsistent. So how far can one 463 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: guy go when it comes to cultures. He's going to 464 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: be huge for that, you know. And obviously professional sports man, 465 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: it's it's it's grown men, you know, and every every 466 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: coaching staff guys is preaching doing it right, you know, 467 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: playing fast, working hard, save your money, you know, be 468 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: good pros, all those things right. But honest to God. 469 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: The culture is pushed through the players. And when your 470 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: best players, when your best players are your best people, 471 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: when your best players are your best workers, right, that 472 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: that dictates your culture, you know. So having a J. J. Watt, 473 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 1: you know, having a Larry Fitzgerald there, that dictates your 474 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: culture because those guys set the tone, you know, for 475 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: for practice, for extra work, for study, for treatment. Right, 476 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: it goes through the players. And and you know, once 477 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: it happens with culture and it gets rolling, it's it's 478 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: easy to see and it's easy, you know, to maintain. 479 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: But it goes through players. So having J. J. Watt 480 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: here as an example of how to work, you know, 481 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: how to study, how to be a great pro, you know, 482 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: how to play with energy every single down because I 483 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: mean this guy again, guys, I mean he feels cheated 484 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: in life. You know, he's still feel seated. You know, 485 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: so he's gonna walk in the locker room, guys, and 486 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna be he's gonna be on on on one 487 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: hundred every single day. I mean, he's a guy you 488 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: have to pull back from practicing so much because he 489 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: will burn himself out, you know about week eight or nine. 490 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: I mean he's burned out from this practicing. So it's 491 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: going to be a great example to watch him work, 492 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: to watch him, you know, um, study how to be 493 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: a great pro even in the community. I mean, this 494 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: guy is so awesome in the community, you know, as 495 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: far as raising money, you know, for the hurricane efforts 496 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: in Houston, all those things, you know, how to handle 497 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: the media. He's a great example you know for young 498 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: guys to follow into mimic. And he's also still playing 499 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: good football. So again, if you're trying to build something, 500 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: you know with a young team, and it's it's always 501 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: good to bring in examples of what it looks like. 502 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: He's been on teams that won thirteen games. In twelve games, 503 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: he's been on teams that's won four you know, So 504 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: I mean he won't be mean to building something, you 505 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: know though, That's that's the that's the great part about 506 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: having JJ. He's been on all kinds of teams. He's 507 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: built teams, he's been on great teams. He's been on 508 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: young teams also, But um, you know, his example, his 509 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: leadership is going to go through the roof because that 510 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: that part you have to have. As much as coaches 511 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: want to beat it. They'll be that that that beacon 512 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: in the locker room. We can't be you know, coach 513 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: coach lad teams only go so far, and player lad 514 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 1: teams win championships, you know. So having JJ and at 515 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: locker rooms gonna be huge for our team to have 516 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: a real example of what it looks like on a 517 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: daily basis. Vans had a coach one say to me 518 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: that if you get enough dogs in a locker room, 519 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: even the cats start parking. So I thought that was absolutely, 520 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: absolutely exactly. And you know, every coach in the country 521 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: is prem in the same thing, right. Every coach wants 522 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: you to do it right, practice hard, study, do extra. 523 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,239 Speaker 1: But I'm telling until an example shows up, those young 524 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: players have no idea what it looks like or if 525 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: it's worth it. Yeah, and I mean he would show 526 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: this young players. It's worked the man to work hard. 527 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: I have to be self made guys. He's the self 528 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: made guy. Totally. Absolutely Listen, JJ played, as you know, 529 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: a ton last year, a thousands over a thousand snaps 530 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: last year. Do you anticipate him getting that many snaps 531 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one or are you going to kind 532 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: of monitor his snaps? I hope not, guys, I hope not. 533 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: But it's going to be a true to fit JJ down, 534 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: you know. But hopefully we can have a nice, a 535 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: nice you know rotation with Zach and those guys and 536 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: Rashad Laurens are lucky. We've got a bunch of good players, 537 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: you know, sitting behind him who needs reps, you know. 538 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: So I think I think having those young players behind 539 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: him and convincing JJ that quality is going to be 540 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: better for us than quantity, you know. And you know, 541 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: we can get him out there on the critical downs, 542 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, especially the third downs, the second and laws 543 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: the first of the series. Those those things going to 544 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: help him obviously stay you know, healthy and and to 545 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,239 Speaker 1: be fresh later in the season. But to play over 546 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: a thousand snaps at his age, that shows you, guys, 547 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: his his work ethic and you know, you know how 548 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: he trains man. He trains like an animal, guys. You know. 549 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: So he's gonna be He's gonna be in great shape, 550 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: you know. And Jay and I was laughing about, uh, 551 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: Reggie White, you know, Reggie White signed with Green Bay 552 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: leaven Philly. I think Reggie White was you know, thirty one, 553 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: thirty two years old, you know when he went to 554 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: Green Bay and he had sixty plus sacks. Guys, you know, 555 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: so this this, this is not different. It's it's happened before, 556 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: and you know, very similar players dominant inside Russias, guys 557 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: who take care of themselves and freaking natures, you know. 558 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: So hopefully he can have the same susis that Reggie 559 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: had in uh in Green Bay. But it's gonna be 560 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: a chore to pull JJ back. But we're gonna have 561 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 1: to have a plan for him to understand. Like Jay Man, 562 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: you know, he'll give some of those snaps to Zach. 563 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's he's twenty what five years old, 564 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, give him twenty of those snaps and you 565 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: can obviously you know, have more quality than quantity. But 566 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna want to practice every day and play every down. 567 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: So that's gonna be a weekly conversation on you know, 568 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: how we manage this rest to keep them fresh and 569 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: healthy throughout the playoffs. Well, we don't know if you 570 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: did any recruiting at the college level and coaching in college, 571 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: but you did a heck of a job recruiting here, 572 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: so you know, on behalf of the whole valley and 573 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,959 Speaker 1: the Red Sea. They appreciate your recruiting efforts. Awesome, man, 574 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean it was it was easy to do. I 575 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: mean it's a great player and a great person. And 576 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, as a as a recruiter, man, you don't 577 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: want to bring anybody your program as you're gonna be 578 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: embarrassed about. And I know JJ. You know he's gonna 579 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a player for us. You know that's 580 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: in his heart. You know. I text JJ a week 581 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: ago at that man, you know we need to leadership 582 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: in your example. He text back right away. He said, VJ. No, Man, 583 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm coming to dominate first as a player and I'll 584 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: be an example a leader for you if that's coming 585 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: to play ball. So that's JJ, Van, So happy man 586 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: for you, and have fun with JJ. Okay, I will 587 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: do man. Thank your coach. We'll talk to you soon. 588 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: Van's Joseph Cardinal's defensive coordinator back with more on the 589 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: big Red Rage. Next, Jota look tall, stack fullus three round. 590 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: It's good troup by one picked up to the forty 591 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: to the three to the tray. He's gone. What should 592 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: he do? J J Watt forty five yards on the 593 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: fucking return? How about that Westwood one night an eagle 594 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: right there, J J Watt with the scoop and the score, 595 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: the funnel return and you heard Vance Joseph drop Reggie 596 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,239 Speaker 1: White and special thanks to Cardinal's defensive coordinator, Welcome back 597 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: into the Big Red Rage presented by Satan Ford and 598 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: Gilbert You know Wolf That that's an app comparison in 599 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: a couple of ways. Number One, JJ Watt talked this 600 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: week on a podcast that as a Wisconsin guy, he 601 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: grew up watching Reggie White. He vividly remembers Reggie White 602 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: at the same age coming to the Packers and then 603 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: just having an unbelievably stellar run with the Packers. In fact, 604 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: the stat is that the only two players in NFL 605 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: history to post three or more seasons with the least 606 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: seventeen and a half sacks in that season would be 607 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: JJ Watt and Reggie White. Think about that, think about 608 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: keeping that sort of company, and then listen to this, 609 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: because you heard it at the press conference this week 610 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,479 Speaker 1: and it bears repeating. Here's the Q and A. It's 611 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: all of five seconds, but it's all you need to 612 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: know about that intensity that Vance Joseph referred to what 613 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: JJ watt how much gas you'd like you have left 614 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: in the tank? A lot, a whole lot. It wasn't 615 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: just the short answer and getting right to the point 616 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: and leaving it there, that's the entirety of the answer. 617 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: It was the look in his eye, yes, at the 618 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: question itself, and well, that's the sort of look I 619 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: look forward to in the carvers front seven. Absolutely, Pollie. 620 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: I took the mouth guard and stuck it in. Paul 621 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: what he said that it's like, yeah, let's go, let's go. 622 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: You know, the look on his face, the square jaw, 623 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: and the intensity the fire in the pupils. You could 624 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: actually see it. Listen, this is stuff. Once again, I 625 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: this is I predicate everything I'm about to say by saying, 626 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: if in fact he stays healthy, and I think that's 627 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: a relevant conversation, or at least a point of conversation 628 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: you have to have. But here's a guy that last 629 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: year over a thousand snaps. I can't say it even 630 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: more than that, PAULI over a thousand snaps. And it's 631 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: gonna be really really interesting to see how exactly Van's 632 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: Joseph uses him. He's gonna use him all the way 633 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: across the board. But you know what, it makes an 634 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: offense more predictable. Paul, This is something that I was 635 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: talking to you about, especially in regard to Chandler Jones 636 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: and the use of Chandler Jones. Now, all of a sudden, 637 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: you can almost guarantee what kind of protection you're gonna 638 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: get when you get j J. Watt. And that allows 639 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,239 Speaker 1: Vance Joseph to scheme when he can almost guarantee if 640 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: he puts JJ Watt and he puts Chandler Jones by 641 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: way of example, on the same side of the ball, 642 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: he can almost guarantee what kind of protection he's gonna get. 643 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: And because of that, you can blitz that better. That 644 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: was intriguing, you know, those on the same side, him 645 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: talking about using JJ Watt at the three technique, the 646 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: five technique, him talking about getting him one on ones 647 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: against guards and centers. That's how he excelled back when 648 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: Vance was a dB coach with Houston. So that was 649 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: all intriguing. And then you know, he just talked about 650 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: the mindset and the makeup of the guy. And Vance's 651 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: quote was he feels cheated quote unquote talking about being 652 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: a walk on at Central Michigan and Wisconsin and then 653 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: you know it just so that stayed with him, not 654 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: unlike Tom Brady who still talks about being drafted in 655 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: this sixth round. So you have that dynamic there, and 656 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: then you have March seventeenth, which is coming up the 657 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: start of the league year. What does this mean for 658 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: the years of Cardinals cap and what else you can 659 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: do with the roster? Well, Steve Kin was asked about that. 660 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: I don't feel like we're drastically limited. I think we 661 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: have some flexibility moving forward, and that's why we structured 662 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: the contract the way we did. We have a window 663 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: on time where we can do some different things and 664 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: be flexible. Yet at the same time, we have to 665 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: be smart with it, and I have to look at 666 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: the future moving forward in the next three years and 667 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: always take a different view than a lot of people do. 668 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: That's Steve Kin. Would you make of some of his 669 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: comments about where the Cardinals go from here, because there 670 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: are definitely needs like the secondary in cornerback. Yeah. The 671 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: one thing about it, Paulie, you just don't know what's 672 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: gonna happen when you stop and think about it, right, 673 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: I Mean, you've got Larry Fitzgerald and who knows if 674 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: Larry comes back, and if he comes back for how 675 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: much money is he coming back. I have no idea 676 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: what that is going to be. I think we're going 677 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: to see some restructuring of contracts. I think we're gonna 678 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: see cots, Paul, June first cuts, guys that will be 679 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: released now that might be actually designated for a June 680 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: first cut. I think we're gonna see a lot of 681 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: different moves by the front office right now. And that's 682 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: kind of hard to predict. I'm not trying to dodge 683 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: your question at all, Paulie, but it is difficult to 684 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: predict what is going to happen here. Well, Patrick Peterson, 685 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: if he wants to test the market, for example, what 686 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: is he going to command in the marketplace at his 687 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: age and coming off last season. Hassan Reddick, what do 688 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: other teams make of Hassan Reddick? Who's in his prime 689 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: and you figure he wants to see what his worth 690 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: is on the open market, But how are other teams 691 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: going to approach him when everybody's restricted by the cap 692 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: to a large degree. Some teams obviously have more cap 693 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: room than others, But you know, a lot of that 694 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: I'm guessing reading between the lines of what Steve Kimo, 695 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: Michael Bidwellt told you and Doug last week. Wolf that 696 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: some of these free agents are going to get a 697 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 1: sobering realization here in two weeks as to what's truly 698 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: available in the reduced cap world. Yeah, you know, and 699 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: once again too, I think the errors on a Cardinal 700 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 1: are gonna have a lot of snaps coming back from 701 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: guys that were injured last year. I mean, you think 702 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 1: of it, just Jalen Thompson. There's a guy right there, 703 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: Paulie where they had to cover a lot of those 704 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: snaps of Jalen Thompson. Yet Jayalen Thompson when he was 705 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: when he was starting and getting the opportunity to play 706 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: alongside Buddha baker Man, I thought Jalen Thompson bally played 707 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: really really well. And there's a guy if they can 708 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: just get him healthy, he comes back. Maybe last year 709 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 1: was a complete anomaly for Jalen Thompson. He comes back. Hey, 710 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: you know what, You're replacing a lot of snaps with 711 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: a guy you know can play. It's kind of like 712 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones. Everyone talks about all the snaps Arizona Cardinals 713 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: have got to replace via free agency, and they do. 714 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: There's no denying that they have what twenty eight twenty 715 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 1: eight unrestricted free agents and restricted free agents as well. 716 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 1: They've got a lot of different guys they've got to replace, 717 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. But once again, man, if 718 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: you've got Chan coming back, he's gonna eat eat an 719 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: awful lot of snaps, isn't he that you had to 720 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: replace last year? And would you say Chandler Jones is 721 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: an upgrade over anybody that actually was eating up those 722 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: snaps last year? I would say yes, yeah. If I'm 723 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson right now and you're looking at the addition 724 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: of J. J. Watt and the return at Chandler Jones 725 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: and a division with Aaron Donald and Company, you might 726 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: want to expand your list of teams that you're gonna 727 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: consider a trade too. If you're Russell Wilson at this point, 728 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 1: and you're right, I mean you Chandler Jones for example, 729 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: coming back, well, that's something easily his contract could be 730 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: extended and the cap number could be reduced greatly. So 731 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: there are other maneuvers that Steve Time I'm sure in 732 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: company have in mind in the Cardinals front office to 733 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: create even more cap room. We'll see that is less 734 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: than two weeks away. Let's talk about the other factor 735 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: involved in US, and that's the quarterback. Next than the 736 00:37:53,040 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: big Red rage, J J. Watt with the fat twenty 737 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: and a half of the year, the first player in 738 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: the NFL hittory with twenty or more facts just spit career. 739 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: I would say J. J. Watts has the type of 740 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 1: presidence that you don't want to let him down. And 741 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: you've heard some of those quotes coming out of Tampa 742 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: with Tom and guys just don't want to let that 743 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: type of player, with that type of work guys and 744 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: that type of you know, legend. They don't want to 745 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 1: let him down. They don't want to be that guy 746 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: that doesn't hold up there into the bargain. And JJ 747 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: brings a similar presence with always accomplished him, his work 748 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 1: ethic and in the type of person he is there 749 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: go that's Clip Kingsbury. Earlier today we just heard from 750 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: Vance Joseph. I found this addition to the Big Red 751 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. We are santan 752 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 1: Ford and we asked him about that. Walf how much 753 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: impact can a single player have because we've witnessed that 754 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: before and whether it was Kurt Warner, whether it was 755 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, the impact one guy can have on an 756 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: entire locker room. And Vance's response was that culture is 757 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: pushed through the players, and that's how it's dictated. When 758 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: your best players, especially are the ones dictating that culture. 759 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: You're a decade in the NFL. Would you agree with that? 760 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, PAULI are you kidding me? I talk 761 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: about it all the time, I really do. I talk 762 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: about your best players have got to model that culture 763 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: for everybody else, Polly, Your best players have got to 764 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: do it. JJ Watt is going to be one of 765 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: their best players, and because of that, he's going to 766 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: be modeling the culture and the mentality of this team 767 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: for everybody else. I cannot stress enough how important this is. 768 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: This is something I was talking to Herm Edwards about 769 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: this very thing as well, Paul, and Herm was saying that, 770 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: you know what, honestly, you need war dot where war 771 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: daddies is what he called them. He called them war daddies. 772 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: You need these war daddies in the locker room and 773 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: suddenly their mentality starts to spread it Two guys that 774 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: are not naturally as aggressive as these war daddies are, 775 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 1: or dogs as I would call him right here. And 776 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: JJ Watt is a dog, and he's going to help 777 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: that mentality spread in that locker room. And I think 778 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 1: he's going to have an impact not only on players, PAULI, 779 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: but on the coaching staff as well. It's like Tyron 780 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: Matthew tweeted out during the playoffs this past year where 781 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 1: he said, the smallest dog in the yard, it's still 782 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: my yard. That's Tyron Matthew. That's his mindset. That's what 783 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: I think of when you think, yes, you think of 784 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: that mentality. So okay, you have that, and look, if 785 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: you can't play, you can't lead. We know that. The 786 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 1: other axiom in the NFL is no QB, no chance 787 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: and everybody knows that and we've lived through that at 788 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 1: times as well. So there's no fluke that JJ Watt 789 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: as he was being recruited, identified teams with franchise capable quarterbacks. 790 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: In fact, beyond that, JJ Watt city flash little leadership. 791 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: When it comes to young Kyler Murray, He's been a 792 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: winner at every stage of his life. That's not a coincidence. 793 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: You're a winner because of the way that you work, 794 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: and because of the area that you give off, and 795 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: because of the talent that you have. And I think 796 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: that he has all those things and he's going to 797 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: continue to win and continue to have success. And that's 798 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: a part of the reason that I'm here. I told him, 799 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: by a Texas I'm here because I believe in you. 800 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: You have to have a quarterback in this league to 801 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: have a chance, and he's our guy, and I'm looking 802 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: forward to going out there and playing with him. Your 803 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 1: reaction to that, and what do you think that does? Yeah, PAULI, 804 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: this is going to be great because JJ Watt, from 805 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: what I'm told, he's one of the first guys into 806 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: the building and one of the last to leave. So 807 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, it's going to be a 808 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 1: race between Kyler Murray hopefully being one of the first 809 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: guys into the building and when he's going to leave 810 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: as well, or maybe there's going to be a conversation 811 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: between JJ Watt and Kyler. I'm not saying there is, Paul. 812 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you right now that that could happen. 813 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: I just you know, I think of last year, and 814 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,320 Speaker 1: I think of a game like Week sixteen where the 815 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 1: team came out flat, and then I wonder how much 816 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: of an impact would JJ Watt up in that game? 817 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: Would that have happened against the Niners in Week sixteen? 818 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: What do you think? Is it really to think it 819 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: would have been different? Absolutely, the level of play is 820 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: going to even out with J. J Watt and Matt 821 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: Locker rool. All right, we'll wrap up this edition. In fact, 822 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: we'll talk more about the leadership and wrap this up. 823 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: It is the Big Red Rage presented by satan Ford 824 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: and Gilbert. We are satan Ford. If you can't come 825 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: in and put working in the building, go out to 826 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,320 Speaker 1: the practice field and work hard, do your lifts and 827 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: do what you're supposed to do, you should not be here. 828 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: This is a job. We're getting paid a whole lot 829 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: of money. There are a lot of people that watch 830 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: us and invest their time and their money into buying 831 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: our jerseys and buying a whole bunch of and they 832 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: care about it and work four and eleven. So if 833 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: you can't go out there and you can't work out, 834 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: you can't show up on time, you can't practice, you 835 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: can't want to go out there and win, you shouldn't 836 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: be here because this is a privilege, just the greatest 837 00:42:58,600 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: job in the world. You get to go out and 838 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: play game. I think we all remember that it was 839 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 1: late December and the Houston Texans and route to a 840 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 1: four win season, and there was at least one guy 841 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: who cared and cared deeply and that was a rant, 842 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: an all timer from JJ Watt. And you know what, 843 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: when your second all time in NFL history in sacks 844 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: per game to Reggie White, then guess what you have 845 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: the field cred to go on that sort of rand. 846 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: But again, it's what Vance Joseph told us earlier in 847 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: the show, right Wolf, that this culture has pushed through 848 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 1: the players, and he's that guy that the rest of 849 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: the team and especially the defense feeds off of. J. J. Watt. Yes, Paula, 850 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: you gotta have that. You gotta have these guys walking 851 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: around modeling that culture. Listen to a three time Defensive 852 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: Player of the Year, a five time first team All Pro, 853 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: five Pro Bowls. Right twenty ten, he was the unanimous 854 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 1: All Defensive Team whole decade team. As a matter of fact, 855 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: this guy, this guy has all the credibility you could 856 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,399 Speaker 1: possibly think of right now, So when he walks into 857 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: that locker room, He's going to have a ton of respect. 858 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: This is going to allow the Cardinals to be more 859 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: physical on the line of scrimmage, and it's for you 860 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: to improve their culture dramatically. And those are the biggest 861 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 1: two things they needed to do in address this offseason. So, 862 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: a guy who could retire today and be a surefire 863 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Famer, a guy who most definitely 864 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: has arrived, walks around, according to Vance Joseph, his former 865 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,280 Speaker 1: coach with the Texans, feeling like quote, he feels cheated. 866 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: That's the mentality that you get with a j J. 867 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,240 Speaker 1: That's a chip in the heart, Paul, not on the shoulder, 868 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: in the heart. And that's what Steve kinby Hope is 869 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: talking about when he says he has an infectious personality. 870 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: Special thanks to Vance Joseph, Cardinals defensive coordinator Jim Almahondro 871 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 1: and Cody Fincher for Ron Wolfley on Paul KELBC. This 872 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 1: has been the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford Gilbert. 873 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: Number one. Til you've been listening to the Big Red 874 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:16,760 Speaker 1: Rage presented by Santanford in Gilbert, are you Santanford State 875 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: Farm Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State 876 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: Farm and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts Visit acy cardinals dot 877 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 1: com Slash podcasts. 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