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Speaker 3: This is Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented by Invisi Line,

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Speaker 3: trusted by over five hundred NFL players for their winning smiles,

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Speaker 3: and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star.

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Speaker 3: Now your host, Nicole Hutchison.

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Speaker 4: What is up? Cowboys Nation?

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Speaker 5: Welcome into Girls.

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Speaker 4: Talk Boys Talk, presented by Invisi Line. Here in the

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Speaker 4: SWBC studio, we back Baby Caprian Aldrich, Jess Navares, we

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Speaker 4: got Aisha Morrison.

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Speaker 5: My name is Nicole Hutchison. Ladies, how y'all doing?

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Speaker 4: Hopefully?

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Speaker 6: Boo?

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Speaker 4: We got there.

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Speaker 7: It is.

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Speaker 5: Like, are we forgetting No?

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Speaker 8: It sounds good to be back here.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Oh my god?

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Speaker 5: What is happening? Are you okay?

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Speaker 7: It's me okay right there?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 4: Two prices in games down the Rams Baltimore and a

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Speaker 4: lot of things to assess, and we are gonna call

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Speaker 4: today's theme. I thought about it, right, I was like,

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Speaker 4: what clicks?

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Speaker 5: What the helly? Because it could be good or bad.

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Speaker 4: Right, We're gonna start off inside of the ball first segment,

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Speaker 4: break down defense in the second segment, and we're gonna

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Speaker 4: go with Joe Milton just you know, obviously still a

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Speaker 4: y'all figured.

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Speaker 7: Out out, just like the Cowboys are figuring out.

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Speaker 4: All right, It's fine, great Joe Milton. Uh, still a

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Speaker 4: lot of things to figure out, specifically with him in

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Speaker 4: terms of growth. You know, I think that people do

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Speaker 4: forget that he's not had a lot of NFL game,

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Speaker 4: real game experience, but he's certainly hitting it now. But

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Speaker 4: just talk about Joe Milton. He's now got his first

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Speaker 4: two NFL preseason reps. Thoughts on him and what he's

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Speaker 4: kind of put together so far, and Jess Holico to

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Speaker 7: You look, I don't know what everyone was expecting. We're expecting,

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Speaker 7: like Dak two point zero to be flying out of

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Speaker 7: the gates with these livetime, real reps from Joe Milton.

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Speaker 7: But it's a slow burn process here. I mean, when

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Speaker 7: you look back to how the Cowboys have even gotten

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Speaker 7: in their quarterback situations in recent years, Tony Romo never

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Speaker 7: supposed to be the Cowboys starting quarterback, Dak Prescott never

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Speaker 7: supposed to be the Cowboys starting quarterback. You've always kind

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Speaker 7: of struck lightning twice when it comes to the quarterback situation.

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Speaker 7: It doesn't just happen overnight, and especially for Joe Milton, who,

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Speaker 7: like you said, Nicole, two games in. Yeah, there's a

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Speaker 7: lot of kings to work out. He's not having his

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Speaker 7: read options, he's taking his first read. His eyes are

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Speaker 7: giving up a lot, a lot of what his game

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Speaker 7: plan is. And guess who was taking advantage of that

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Speaker 7: fully the Ravens looking at where his eyes are. They

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Speaker 7: were rushing the gaps and trying to get to him

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Speaker 7: because his eyes were giving it away. That comes with time,

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Speaker 7: That comes with a lot of live time game practices.

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Speaker 7: On top of crowd noise, Nicole, I'm not sure how

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Speaker 7: loud it was in there, but that could also play

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Speaker 7: an aspect. So for me, I'm giving him grace, but

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Speaker 7: that doesn't mean both things can't be true. I can

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Speaker 7: give him grace but also be worried about the Cowboys

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Speaker 7: backup situation, and I'm both at this point.

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Speaker 4: All right, Sorry, Brie, Simon nang, Okay, that's fine, that's well,

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Speaker 4: she would like that.

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Speaker 9: It's very Simon says, I feel like Nicole said it

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Speaker 9: off top. He doesn't have a lot of experience. He

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Speaker 9: has one regular season NFL game under his belt. I

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Speaker 9: think there's kind of what Jess said, there was a

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Speaker 9: lot of maybe unfair expectations of a Joe Milton when

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Speaker 9: he could actually do. When you're an Oxnard, we're not

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Speaker 9: sharing the you know, balls being thrown around that are missed.

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Speaker 9: We're showing the good stuff, right, the exciting stuff, the

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Speaker 9: down the field stuff, him shooting balls sixty seventy yards

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Speaker 9: has been ninety yards, and you know that's exciting to hear, right,

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Speaker 9: But we're not showing the bad stuff.

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Speaker 8: We're seeing the bad stuff now.

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Speaker 9: So I don't think it's anything honestly different than what

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Speaker 9: see on his college tape, honestly, And he struggled.

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Speaker 5: In New England.

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Speaker 9: There's a reason why he was available to come here

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Speaker 9: after New England took come up. Those are all facts.

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Speaker 9: I also think it's maybe frustrating from a fan standpoint

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Speaker 9: because it's like it kind of feels like what happened

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Speaker 9: last year. You bring in Trey Lance, you give him

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Speaker 9: very limited opportunities. He has these couple preseason games and

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Speaker 9: he's not Dak Prescott, all right, now what Well, now

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Speaker 9: we just gave a fourth pick for him. Now he's

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Speaker 9: on another team where he's kind of thriving right now.

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Speaker 9: I don't know if anyone's keeping up with that. And

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Speaker 9: that's because they're developing him. He's got the experience. But

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Speaker 9: I don't want to see that happen with Joe Milton.

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Speaker 9: I think Joe Milton, I'll stamp it. In a couple

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Speaker 9: of years. I think he could be a starting quarterback

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Speaker 9: for another team. I think he has capa.

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Speaker 8: He has qualities of a QB that cannot be taught.

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Speaker 9: It's just in you and I think there's other qbs

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Speaker 9: that wish they could do what Joe Milton can do.

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Speaker 9: But it is, you know, I don't like to say

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Speaker 9: I don't know another word but concerning, but you know,

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Speaker 9: it's it's the simple stuff that he can't do. It's

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Speaker 9: just like when he was blitzed and it turns into

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Speaker 8: It's like he never saw it coming.

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Speaker 9: A couple getting out of the pocket, taking a couple

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Speaker 9: But yeah, I think it's also looking like we're gonna

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Speaker 9: which is gonna take away from other positions. And that

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Speaker 9: part is probably frustrating but definitely not fair to just

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Speaker 9: count out Joe Milton. But Joe Milton is giving what

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Speaker 9: he's been what he's been showing us.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I thought that you, especially Nicole, made a good

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Speaker 10: point about the fact that you know, there's a lot

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Speaker 10: and football folks out there, we have become very microwave

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Speaker 10: when it comes to development in this league, specifically from

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Speaker 10: is significantly different. There are some more similarities now, more

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Speaker 10: it's a lot of mechanical issues. So where the feet

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Speaker 10: That means he's not setting his feet and making throws.

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Speaker 10: He's he There are times where he's a bit of

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Speaker 11: He has the upper body strength.

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Speaker 10: And I remember talking to him at camp and asking him,

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Speaker 10: How how do you tell yourself to stay you know, grounded,

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Speaker 10: and that's something he was open with me, and that

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Speaker 11: I do think that it was hard.

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Speaker 10: It's been hard to watch, it's been hard to you know, navigate.

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Speaker 10: But my last point will be is that Nicole, she

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Speaker 10: this office to be vanilla, but bebe.

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Speaker 11: It's in his freshest form. Yeah, it's I don't know, like,

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Speaker 11: what is it is?

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Speaker 11: No, it's an awesome point.

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Speaker 10: And I know I heard a shot he said an

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Speaker 11: So I get it.

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Speaker 10: But for that offensively, the stuff that you need to

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Speaker 10: But yeah, he has a ways to grow. I agree

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Speaker 4: It's crazy you bring that up, because I got I

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Speaker 4: got a chance to talk to him yesterday and asked him, like,

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Speaker 4: you know what, how has this like simplicity of you know,

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Speaker 4: running things simple kind of hindered you a little bit

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Speaker 5: And he brought that up and he said that, you know,

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Speaker 4: Motions, the shifts does help me in terms of making

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Speaker 4: At the same time and sou he said he's gonna

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Speaker 4: But you know, unfortunately, Dak Prescott, which I'm knock on wood,

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Speaker 4: we don't want injuries behind you here, but I mean

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Speaker 4: it's it's a true fact that you know, Dak hasn't

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Speaker 5: Twenty twenty two, twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: Four after week nine. Uh, but so you need that

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Speaker 4: You have Joe Milton, you have Will Greer. Ladies, I've

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Speaker 4: got to ask you.

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Speaker 5: Know, where's y'all's confidence level in both of them?

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Speaker 7: I want to I want to add on to your

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Speaker 7: point real quick, Nicole about Doub's not being healthy, because

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Speaker 7: here's the thing. If you don't set up the run

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Speaker 8: With the how many backup quarterbacks playing last year, it.

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Speaker 10: It was more than I think we've seen in recent years.

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Speaker 4: Of season, at least sixty six quarterbacks started at least

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Speaker 9: I don't know if I'm comfortable with Will Greer leading

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Speaker 8: We're gonna be talking about draft.

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Speaker 11: That's that scene though, Like what's happen shopping? We talking?

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Speaker 11: So I think what type of shop and we talking.

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Speaker 9: Are we talking about what I've been talking about? Proven

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Speaker 8: Saying, I know, I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 9: Feels like but how we felt when Dak went down,

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Speaker 11: Most teams do them have to.

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Speaker 7: Be intimidated by your backup quarterback. That's another aspect of

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Speaker 9: Like just when, but I don't think these two could

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Speaker 9: I'm saying is I don't need Wilgred to be Dak,

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Speaker 9: I don't need Joe to be I just need them

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Speaker 9: I just need them to keep it afloat and I

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Speaker 7: the CB roster. So he never complained or turned changed

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00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 7: his work habits. Every time he got a chance to play.

440
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Speaker 7: Every down, he produced and played big. I was very

441
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 7: proud of him on how he stepped in full time

442
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 7: in playoffs, and I think he belongs on an NFL

443
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 7: roster permanently based on all of those things. Another coach

444
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 7: basically said he's a producer and again steps up when

445
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 7: his number is called. So one thing to know about

446
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 7: Michael is yes, he didn't get the starting job throughout

447
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Speaker 7: the course of the season. The DC Defenders had some

448
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,360
Speaker 7: stuff go down right before playoffs, right before, and their

449
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 7: cornerback room was kind of shaken up a little bit.

450
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Speaker 7: From there, Michael stepped up and was producing one of

451
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Speaker 7: the bigger reasons why the DC Defenders ended up winning

452
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Speaker 7: that championship. So for me having those names, Pete Carroll,

453
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Speaker 7: Bill Belichick, we talked about his familiarity with Matt Eberflus

454
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Speaker 7: as well in that influence. This coach specifically said that

455
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Speaker 7: that's gonna be very noticeable and the familiarity is going

456
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Speaker 7: to be there almost instantly as soon as he walks

457
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Speaker 7: in the building. So good news.

458
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Speaker 4: There, all right, Well, talk about the state of the

459
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Speaker 4: cornerback room.

460
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Speaker 5: Nervous laugh, Yeah, nervous laugh.

461
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Speaker 4: And yeah you got between injuries, Well you got to

462
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Speaker 4: pick six from Andrew Booth, Kemon Hall interception. Israel Makwamu

463
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 4: as well has been kind of playing outside corner switching

464
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Speaker 4: in and playing some nickel just talk about you know,

465
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Speaker 4: as of right now, thoughts on the cornerback room, and yeah,

466
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Speaker 4: I usual I'm gonna go with you.

467
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Speaker 5: Uh.

468
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Speaker 10: Well, I think you're still in a place to where

469
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Speaker 10: I think the kyr Elion, I know your guy. Uh

470
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 10: he's what you're looking for in campus consistency. And it

471
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Speaker 10: is something to be said about our guys showing up

472
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Speaker 10: every day and making plays or just consistently.

473
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Speaker 11: Being there and not just getting beat.

474
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Speaker 10: I know we're worried about I know I was worried

475
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Speaker 10: about some of the confidence and stuff. This doesn't seem

476
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Speaker 10: like a player that's not confident. This doesn't seem like

477
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Speaker 10: a player that doesn't feel like a scheme fit. I

478
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Speaker 10: think what he's being asked to do within Ebu Flu

479
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,719
Speaker 10: the system might fit more what he is comfortable with

480
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 10: getting to see him out there. You know, for those

481
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 10: few reps the other day, it was like, all right,

482
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 10: sit him down because you ain't got no you can't

483
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Speaker 10: risk it for the biscuit. But him and Bland on

484
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 10: the outside is kind of what I expect at this point,

485
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Speaker 10: especially with the uncertainty with Ravel and Trayvon Dix, I

486
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Speaker 10: would expect them in the in the on the outside.

487
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Speaker 11: Now when he comes to the slot I've been looking at.

488
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Speaker 11: I knew Keimon Hall.

489
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Speaker 10: Was going to get a shot. He's a veteran, he's

490
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 10: been here. He has a nose for the ball. But

491
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Speaker 10: he did have some of the season the Rams game

492
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Speaker 10: with some of the motions. And when you talk about

493
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Speaker 10: the slot position, hey, y'all, I hate to say it,

494
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 10: but slot slot cornerback might be becoming far more important

495
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Speaker 10: than it was maybe in years past, with how offense

496
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Speaker 10: is are manipulating in the slot.

497
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Speaker 11: That's one of the first things I do every week.

498
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Speaker 10: I go look at who the slot corner is for

499
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Speaker 10: the team, and I'd be like, well, see that he's

500
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Speaker 10: gonna have a great day. And so if that's the

501
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Speaker 10: common thing in the NFL, it's like that position is

502
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Speaker 10: so intricate. So I think that we've been seeing some

503
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Speaker 10: good things from Zion Childress. Again, I was worried about

504
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Speaker 10: his size. He is a smaller like I mean, I

505
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 10: want to say a smaller, smaller frame, but he's what

506
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 10: two hundred and three pounds something like that. So he

507
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Speaker 10: what really has stood out to me is his ability

508
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Speaker 10: to come and fill in the run and to help

509
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Speaker 10: seal on the edges because that is what he's gonna

510
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Speaker 10: be asked to do as a nickel corner. Now in coverage,

511
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Speaker 10: there's a few times I saw him get lost and

512
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Speaker 10: stuff like that. I do think that that a lot

513
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 10: of that is because they're also being vanilla as well.

514
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 10: They're also just trying to pick up on their cues.

515
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Speaker 11: And stuff as well. And the passwords wasn't helping me

516
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Speaker 11: in pre seasoning game. But but I will say.

517
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Speaker 10: Zion Childress is someone that is he gonna is that

518
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Speaker 10: competition real is because what we've seen from Kemon Hall

519
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 10: wouldn't suggest at this point that there shouldn't still be

520
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Speaker 10: a competition. That's the most important position to me.

521
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Speaker 11: Now, ladies do y'all?

522
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Speaker 10: Are y'all more concerned about that position or boundary because Duran.

523
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Speaker 11: Bland don't seem like he want real playing then the

524
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Speaker 11: Nickel would have them do all that. It's it's more

525
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Speaker 11: physically taxing, y'all. It is.

526
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Speaker 10: It's more physically taxing to have to be I remember

527
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 10: Jordan Molist telling me about the corner nickel cornerback position.

528
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Speaker 10: He was like, you're an extension of both levels, first

529
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Speaker 10: level and third level, you have to communicate.

530
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Speaker 11: It's a lot of responsibility putting on a rookie.

531
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Speaker 7: But at this point, that's what they've done.

532
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Speaker 10: I don't know, like it's it's that scares me, that's

533
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Speaker 10: that scares me. So I saw what I want to say,

534
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Speaker 10: the boundary corner position. It's not as stressful that nickel

535
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Speaker 10: corner position. That competition is important. What are you ladies

536
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 10: seeing what y'all thinking?

537
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Speaker 9: I agree with a lot of what you just said,

538
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Speaker 9: mostly because when I'm looking at who's healthy, I just

539
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 9: can't help glance at who's not healthy, and it's you

540
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 9: can't get ahead of yourself because that's not who's going

541
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Speaker 9: to be available. And that's the hard part about this room.

542
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Speaker 9: I literally is like, you know, Jess is talking about

543
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 9: basically a UFL guy come back in the second chance,

544
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 9: and it's like, at this point what he got.

545
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Speaker 8: Because they're still trying to figure it out.

546
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Speaker 9: And I will say there was some good things or

547
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Speaker 9: from what I saw in game one to game two

548
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 9: again preseason backups. I don't even care. It's just the

549
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Speaker 9: fact that there was progress. Like we're focused on progress

550
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 9: because things haven't been that solid. So it's like, are

551
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Speaker 9: we are we kind of like, you know, I just

552
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 9: don't know. Yeah, dron Bland and Kyrilem that's pretty much

553
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 9: the only people that And that's me coming from now

554
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,239
Speaker 9: seeing Kyer get some represent because I thought, I was like,

555
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Speaker 9: we got to see what he has because I've been

556
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 9: I've been the situation where he's going against the Stefan Diggs.

557
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 8: And doing well, a little handsy.

558
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Speaker 9: That was kind of the biggest thing when he first

559
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Speaker 9: got there, Like, yes, he was getting a lot of

560
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Speaker 9: flags thrown. That was just but anyways, that's good point

561
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Speaker 9: him having a good camp.

562
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Speaker 8: I saw that. Yeah, him getting the takeaways.

563
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Speaker 9: I saw that as well, and then it died out

564
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Speaker 9: and now it's too gay is he a super duper

565
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 9: camp player or can he?

566
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Speaker 13: You know?

567
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Speaker 9: And I saw he went out there again. These are backups,

568
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 9: so it's kind of.

569
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Speaker 8: Like evaluate, Yeah, I'm giving him.

570
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Speaker 9: The benefit of the doubt because I feel like we

571
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Speaker 9: do the same thing if they were to do the opposite, right,

572
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 9: like if that's the hard part about preason, Like when

573
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 9: they don't do well, it's like, oh my god, they're

574
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Speaker 9: just backups.

575
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 8: But then when they do well, it's like a it's

576
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Speaker 8: just backups.

577
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 9: Like he's doing what he's supposed to do, So I

578
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 9: have faith in what I'm seeing, you know, is he

579
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 9: had the big play Game one and I was I

580
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 9: was talking to him after that game. It yeah, I

581
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 9: was like, this is yeah, he's he's a character, just something.

582
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 8: But it just seems like him.

583
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,479
Speaker 9: And I talked to Andrew Booth after against the Ravens

584
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Speaker 9: right after the way think thank you very much.

585
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 8: Above those guys, they just feel like.

586
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 9: Going from not putting anything against Zimmer but they just

587
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 9: both feel like Matt Eberflu's focuses on what your strengths are,

588
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 9: and he utilized or tried to right. He doesn't try

589
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 9: to force people to do things that they're uncomfortable with,

590
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 9: which these guys are. You know, not a lot of

591
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 9: Andrew Booth fans like let's be when we came even now,

592
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 9: like it's been a lot of inconsistency. Keem On Hall

593
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 9: has flashes and then there's some plays I'm like, eh,

594
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 9: and that's why you know, I's just talking about, well,

595
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 9: that's not that's not solidified, Like his Spie is not solidified, and.

596
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 8: That's the problem.

597
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 9: Like looking at those two like it's like sometimes they

598
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 9: look like liabilities, and then other times I'm like, I'm

599
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 9: in so it's like, I don't know. I think it's

600
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Speaker 9: just I think that's why the physician scares me.

601
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Speaker 4: Who you're starting nickel ezers right now?

602
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Speaker 5: Go why would you now? Right now?

603
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Speaker 7: Hold on? I want to be a point too. I

604
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 7: want to make a point about Andrew Booth hole quick

605
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Speaker 7: because here, you know we're talking. Bree's talking about how

606
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 7: during preseason it's they're just back up, so it's like,

607
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 7: uh whatever, or they do really bad, it's like, oh,

608
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 7: they don't deserve to make the fifty three whatever. Like

609
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 7: it's both things at the same time. Right, So with

610
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Speaker 7: Andrew Booth, I understand the dismay, I understand the frustration,

611
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 7: to say it very nicely from Cowboys fans to him.

612
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Speaker 7: But I also will say that if Andrew Booth wasn't

613
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Speaker 7: producing anything throughout the preseason, if he didn't have that

614
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 7: pick six, if he didn't have that big moment, I

615
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 7: would be more concerned. What I am seeing from him

616
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 7: during this preseason is a confidence boost that you physically

617
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 7: can see on the field. Yes, he has too much

618
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 7: space sometimes between receivers. He's allowing too much space, which

619
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Speaker 7: is why he's giving up such big plays and these

620
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 7: receivers and these quarterbacks are just picking on him, picking

621
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Speaker 7: on him over and over and over. Don't think that's

622
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 7: not noticed. But what I will say is to your

623
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Speaker 7: point about what Eberflus is doing for a guy like

624
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Speaker 7: Andrew Booth is we're talking about the quarterbacks earlier. He's

625
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 7: taking time to invest in building these guys back up

626
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 7: from where they were previously. And that again is no

627
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 7: shade to the previous regiment of coaching over here, no shade.

628
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 7: It's just some guys require more work and more time

629
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Speaker 7: to grow into the kind of player you need them

630
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Speaker 7: to be on this team. And I feel like heber

631
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 7: Flus his system is bringing out these guys in ways

632
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 7: that are sparking confidence. So for me, all I wanted

633
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 7: to see from Andrew Booth this off season. The bar

634
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 7: was not high by any means, because it couldn't be right.

635
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 7: I can't just set this rocket high bar for any

636
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 7: of these cbs, but I wanted to see improvement and growth.

637
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 7: We've seen that It's not to where it needs to

638
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 7: be by any means, But I do want to give

639
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 7: him his flowers for at least putting that foot forward,

640
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 7: and in your interview with him, he talked about how

641
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 7: his confidence never wavered. Good put the.

642
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Speaker 8: Confidence and to that point really quick, Kaye.

643
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Speaker 9: Even going back to him when I spoke to him

644
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Speaker 9: at training camp, you know, like I said, I stood

645
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 9: there and I watched this rookie come in and you know,

646
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 9: I was his best SEGA season, his rookie season, and

647
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 9: then it just kind of went downhill.

648
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Speaker 8: And he said, he's.

649
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 11: Like, I was never their guy.

650
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Speaker 9: I got opportunities because people were hurt, and I think

651
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Speaker 9: coming here, well obviously there's injuries, but they trust in him,

652
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 9: and he feels that he never had that in Buffalo,

653
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Speaker 9: and as I talk about like, oh, well he faded,

654
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 9: I kind of have to think about just the real

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Speaker 9: conversation I had with him, he was like, I had

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Speaker 9: three different DC's.

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Speaker 11: I was never their guy.

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Speaker 8: Like, yeah, that's that's the difference.

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Speaker 10: That's how a draft b that's how that's how coaching

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Speaker 10: regimes work, that's how stuff works. I wanted to comment

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Speaker 10: just really quickly on the I think you guys were

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Speaker 10: talking about the caye Elm situation and the children's situation. Hey,

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Speaker 10: I will say in these last two preseason games in

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Speaker 10: the first game, I did feel like I wish the

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Speaker 10: secondary gave the defensive line like a few more ticks.

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Speaker 10: He saw Perry on Winfrey being able to break through there.

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Speaker 10: You saw a couple of Russians from Kneeling and.

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Speaker 11: Some of those guys.

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Speaker 10: But really the pass rush and some of these guys

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Speaker 10: that we've been seeing it has not been as effective

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Speaker 10: in these preseason games, specifically last week. So I do

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Speaker 10: think as well, past Rush gotta work out, gotta help

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Speaker 10: out that secondary as well. Outside started getting into the season.

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Speaker 11: James cheating, he too his papers.

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Speaker 8: I'm like, we have a problem.

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Speaker 4: But you're gonna look at film on him.

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Speaker 10: You like he's too them, Baby, I'm second stream thirst

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Speaker 10: string tackles.

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Speaker 11: Don't know what to do with him.

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Speaker 7: He was stressing them out.

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Speaker 5: He stresses him out.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we're gonna stress.

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Speaker 11: We're gonna figure out how the defensive end room is

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Speaker 11: makes deep. But that's a guy that can rush the pastor.

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Speaker 10: But my original point was in the season that this

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Speaker 10: I do expect.

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Speaker 11: Lord where's where is his number at? It ain't on

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Speaker 11: here right now on the wall.

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Speaker 10: Hopefully uh the the e living is here, But that

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Speaker 10: past Rush is gonna have to come on as well

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Speaker 10: to help out the Nuggets. I am We're not a

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Speaker 10: dwindle on it. But when you bring it up, it's

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Speaker 10: just it's just secondary uncertainty.

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Speaker 5: I know nobody can't say ouch.

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Speaker 10: If somebody else say out, I'm gonna say out, I'm

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Speaker 10: out for the season.

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Speaker 8: Like at this point, what we're gonna do?

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Speaker 10: Nobody else like the second like seriously, And I think

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Speaker 10: that's why they brought in Michael's.

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Speaker 11: We're going on, I R.

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Speaker 8: We're gonna be in Walmart parking lot?

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Speaker 7: Who plays by? By?

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Speaker 5: Who's starting nickel?

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Speaker 4: Because I do want to go back to make sure

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Speaker 4: that Zion children gets his flowers. I went back to

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Speaker 4: watch the tape. Excuse me, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: I don't do that, don't.

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Speaker 15: Even do it.

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Speaker 4: But on that pick six, he gets through on a

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Speaker 4: free cornerback blues. So let's talk about it, Childrens. He

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Speaker 4: has been effective playing that nickel cornerback position as of today.

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Speaker 5: Who would be your starting nickel?

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Speaker 7: Go?

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Speaker 10: Ah, it's probably gonna start with key Mom because he's

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Speaker 10: a veteran.

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Speaker 11: But it's what that nugget.

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Speaker 7: But okay, you know what, Okay, you know what I'm

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Speaker 7: going I'm going Zion.

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Speaker 8: I'm going Zion.

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Speaker 7: I'm going Zion because I want to just be the

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Speaker 7: devil's advocate here. I'm gonna go Zion because, look, you

722
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Speaker 7: can have the veteran presidence. Blah. Do you want to

723
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Speaker 7: build up your young talent? What's a better way to

724
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Speaker 7: build up your young telling them giving them the in

725
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Speaker 7: game reps and giving them the opportunity to make that

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Speaker 7: name for themselves. You can't do that unless he has

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Speaker 7: that starting position. You can interchangeably work him out. But

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Speaker 7: like that's just me being devil's advocate. I think at

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Speaker 7: this point that room is what it is, no matter

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Speaker 7: who has that starting position. And that's the end of it.

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Speaker 4: Let's get this Shoty's mantra is compete every day.

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Speaker 7: Compete every he has well, he has competed every year.

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Speaker 4: Fairness every day, girl and fairness.

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Speaker 11: I like you just energy, Okay, I like his energy too.

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Speaker 10: He was like, hey, they told me I was gonna

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Speaker 10: be in a mix, and I said, oh, you told the.

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Speaker 7: He he gives kind of barkie Jaylu vibe.

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Speaker 5: You got it.

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Speaker 7: That dog. You need that trash talking dog like Jaylu

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Speaker 7: was because otherwise, look, these receivers are not gonna take

741
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Speaker 7: you seriously. And that also goes with like being a

742
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Speaker 7: strategic and intelligent football player where you can draw penalties

743
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Speaker 7: that way from the other team, not for yourself, by

744
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Speaker 7: putting yourself in good field position, taking away field position

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Speaker 7: from opposing offenses. Again, you saw a lot of jlu

746
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Speaker 7: doing that, using like his words to upset people to say,

747
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Speaker 7: at the very least and get in their faces. I

748
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Speaker 7: want a guy like that. I want a dog in

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Speaker 7: my CV room. I need that dog. I need that

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Speaker 7: dog barking.

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Speaker 10: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, just go with right now.

752
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Speaker 10: And I got a lot of love fakimah, that's my dog.

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Speaker 10: But I think I do think you just go with you.

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Speaker 10: Let him get let him get hit in the face,

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Speaker 10: let them get hit in the mouth, let him take

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Speaker 10: why what?

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Speaker 5: Why not?

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Speaker 4: Who else gonna do not me?

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Speaker 11: You're no one else is gonna be able to do

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Speaker 11: it for a while.

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Speaker 10: You might as well just kind of let him, let

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Speaker 10: him get out there. So what do you think, Brie.

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Speaker 4: I see, I see what you guys are saying.

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Speaker 9: Personally, I'm just thinking about there's a couple of positions

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Speaker 9: we're gonna get hit in the mouth, Like.

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Speaker 11: Let's just put it out there, which one.

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Speaker 9: Is offensive line? I think some people are getting hit

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Speaker 9: in the mouth, like you're going to get some Eagles.

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Speaker 9: This is Tyler Booker going against the Eagles, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 9: there's a couple welcome to the NFL's I just think

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Speaker 9: that even you know we're talking about Zion having this

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Speaker 9: dog mentality, I.

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Speaker 8: This kind of messed up.

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Speaker 9: I rather keem On Hall's confidence go a little down

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Speaker 9: against Eagles, because what are you gonna do as the

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Speaker 9: Eagles offensive coordinator? The same thing that you said that

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Speaker 9: you're gonna do when when you look at a film

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Speaker 9: and you're looking who's playing that spot in a CD?

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Speaker 8: Shoot, they're gonna at this point, I'm gonna run the ball.

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Speaker 9: I do think it's something where you split it like,

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Speaker 9: I don't think it should be on in one's shoulders.

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Speaker 9: I just personally would put Kema Hall out there, let

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Speaker 9: Zion sit back as a nugget, see what he's okay.

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Speaker 9: That's how I feel. I don't think you throw the

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Speaker 9: nugget out there right away.

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Speaker 11: Ja'll want to kill his confidence.

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Speaker 8: That's just why not ready for it?

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Speaker 7: If it happens, then I think he's ready and it's

789
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Speaker 7: not gonna mess with this confidence. If it does, You've

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Speaker 7: seen that from the best. You've seen that from a

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Speaker 7: darn Bland and then look at the kind of season

792
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Speaker 7: he's had. You've seen that from a Jlu, even Jaylu

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Speaker 7: not even getting his flowers like he deserved for years

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Speaker 7: before the last couple of years. Like that's I think

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Speaker 7: part of this position is you almost have to be

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Speaker 7: stripped down to build the confidence up to have that mentality.

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Speaker 7: So if the coaches feel like he's ready and he

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Speaker 10: to find but I do.

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Speaker 11: I will say, y'all take seriously, no, seriously, no.

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Speaker 10: I feel like I think it's important to remember that

878
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Speaker 10: it's preseason. What is it like ninety percent of the

879
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Speaker 10: humans that are out there.

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Speaker 9: Some of the people I'm not lie, I'll be like,

881
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 9: who is that?

882
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 8: That's just where we're at. You're geting to I said

883
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 8: what I said, but I do think.

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Speaker 10: But I will say I'm taking it in doses, and

885
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 10: when I look at preseason, I'm looking at individual play

886
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 10: in reference to what the scheme is. There's not really

887
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 10: any scheming being done. It is very limiting. There are

888
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Speaker 10: some things like we just talked about the nickel cornerback position,

889
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 10: the defensive tackle position, that stuff now that that make

890
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 10: me it a little bit, But the rest of it

891
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 10: is just kind of like everybody gonna look a little wonky,

892
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 10: just prite this season, and I want to give them

893
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Speaker 10: some time. But yeah, I'm chilling personally right now and

894
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Speaker 10: then we'll see what happens.

895
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think panic, isn't I think panics a strong

896
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 7: word for what I feel about certain aspects of the team.

897
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 7: I think I'm uncomfort bowl with certain position groups nose, tackle, DT,

898
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Speaker 7: c B. You know, there's different aspects I'm worried about.

899
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Speaker 7: But overall, panicking during the preseason is just a waste

900
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 7: of energy for anybody, if I'm being honest. Love y'all

901
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 7: Cowboys fans, but save your energy for the season because

902
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 7: there's gonna be a lot of highs and lows inevitably, Like,

903
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 7: save your energy for that, you know. So I think

904
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 7: pressing a panic button during preseason where thank god, the

905
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 7: injuries knock on wood have been pretty minor, you know,

906
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 7: to these players and you have a healthy QB one

907
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 7: going into the season, Like, you really don't have much

908
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 7: panic about. You have that wide receiver duo you've been

909
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 7: waiting for. You're gonna have the Great Wall of Tyler's

910
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 7: as Patrick Walker started to call them, you know, forming

911
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 7: throughout the season. With the bad also comes the good.

912
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 7: And I hate to be the there's a glass half

913
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 7: full kind of person, but there really is, because you know,

914
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 7: there was work put into position groups that needed it

915
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 7: and look, you're gonna see those pan out as well.

916
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 7: But no, no team is perfect right now, Like look

917
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 7: look at the NFCS with the Commanders in the situations

918
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 7: they have going on as well. So there's just no

919
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 7: perfect team in the preseason, and if there is, I

920
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 7: would love to see how they're doing week fourteen of

921
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 7: the season because inevitably the wills have to fall off

922
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 7: some point. You saw that with the Eagles, where you

923
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 7: can get the momentum rolling early, you could have a

924
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 7: little late start get the momentum rolling mid season. Like

925
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 7: you just never know. So for me panicking prematurely, I

926
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Speaker 7: don't have the energy for that and I don't want

927
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Speaker 7: to do that.

928
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Speaker 5: All right, real fast, free what you got.

929
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Speaker 8: I'm not freaking out.

930
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Speaker 9: I think if you are a true NFL fan, you

931
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 9: know that this is the part where you're like, all right,

932
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 9: let's just get to these first three weeks and then

933
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 9: we'll see what the team looks like.

934
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 8: Yes, that's just what it is right right now.

935
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 9: It's about what Scott, what Shotty's been saying. It's about

936
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 9: individual stuff. Who's winning the one on ones. I will say,

937
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 9: there's a lot of guys unlike last what was the

938
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 9: route running? I've seen a lot of guys open. I've

939
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 9: seen a lot of guys missing catches and that's I

940
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 9: think it's a lot of miscommunication there. But I'm like,

941
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 9: you know, if somebody else was throwing that ball, that's

942
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Speaker 9: the touchdown.

943
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Speaker 8: That's a big splash play. Little things like the running backs.

944
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Speaker 8: There's certain especially the last game, like I'm looking and

945
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 8: I'm just like, there's there's holes.

946
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Speaker 9: They're not seeing them, they're not trusting blocks. Those are

947
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 9: type of issues that I'm like, all right, I don't

948
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 9: really care. Backup third string starters that that needs to

949
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 9: get fixed again early, not panicking, a lot of work

950
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 9: to improve all the position groups that you guys talked about. Again,

951
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 9: those are individual things. There's no scheme. Not freaking out.

952
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 9: We could start freaking out week five. We're not seeing

953
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Speaker 9: some changes.

954
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 7: The best thing about vanilla is that it can change

955
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 7: flavor at any point. So we're gonna add some spice,

956
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 7: some flavor, some sugar, all the good things to that

957
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 7: vanilla pretty soon.

958
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 4: But it was some strawberries, Oh sugar does.

959
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 7: Some whip cream?

960
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Speaker 5: No, I'm not panicking.

961
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Speaker 11: Yeah, like I was never panicking.

962
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's this is not hanging out.

963
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Speaker 5: Look the fun can tell.

964
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Speaker 4: I was just asking the questions here for hosting.

965
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Speaker 5: You know, that's it.

966
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Speaker 8: I'm just starting stuff just during the pot my job.

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Speaker 4: All right, ladies, this has been fun. We'll be back

968
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Speaker 4: here Thursday at ten am. So if you want to

969
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Speaker 4: tune into us.

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Speaker 5: You probably should. We're the best.

971
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Speaker 4: All right, see y'all on Tuesday, I mean on Thursday. Wow,

972
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Speaker 4: come on, off er mars Worsen to Qutch, We'll see

973
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Speaker 4: you all Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I guess this has been a production of dallascowboys dot

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