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Thanks for making us 12 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: part of your day. We got the Herd, Hierarchy and 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: Nick right in one hour. Dana White in studio, Jmax. 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever quite seen a quarterback 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: pivot like JJ McCarthy. First three quarters he threw it 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: for about fifty five yards and then in the fourth 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: quarter Joe Montana. He was virtually perfect. So we got 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: a lot to talk about now winning time. McCarthy delivers 19 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: baby All right. So I don't start my show with 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: statistics very often, but I thought this was very interesting 21 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 1: and it serves a point. So in the first drive, 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams is six ver six with one hundred and 23 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: two passer rating. The rest of the game, he completed 24 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: fifty percent and a passer rating in the seventies. That's 25 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: a backup. In the NFL. JJ McCarthy in the first 26 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: three quarters unwatchable of thirty four passer rating, look terrified 27 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter six of eight, one on one 28 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: passer rating. My takeaway. The further the Bears Caleb Williams 29 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: got off script, the worse it got. The more JJ 30 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: McCarthy could play loose intuitive football, the better it got. 31 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: So don't be afraid to have a strong opinion after 32 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: one game. Caleb on script, velocity, horsepower, he can move 33 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: on script, look comfortable and daring and good. But that 34 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: opening drive in the third quarter, you could watch Ben 35 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: Johnson who was visibly frustrated with his lack of accuracy. 36 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: There were also four false starts, twelve total Chicago penalties, 37 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: eight on the offense, so and he was missing badly 38 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: with open receivers. So I mean, I think he's talented 39 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: enough to beat bad teams and mediocre coordinators, but that's 40 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: not his division. And he was one in five against 41 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: his division last year. The only win when the packers 42 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: rested starters. So there, you can't watch that game and 43 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: not be a little unsettled. Off script, it looks like 44 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: USC Caleb Williams. Wow, he's talented, and so was Cam Newton. 45 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: And in eleven seasons, Cam Newton had three winning seat ethans. 46 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: Because Cam was all over the map and too often 47 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: relied on talent, his mechanics eroded, his accuracy regressed. It 48 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: was hit and miss. And that was the knock on 49 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: Caleb coming in. He had all sorts of talent. But 50 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: there's a million talented lounge singers working at bad saloons. 51 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: They're not coachable, they don't manage themselves. Well you know 52 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: they you know, they aren't consistent. The NFL is so 53 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: much more than just armed talent. Jay Cutler had a 54 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: great arm justin fields. Finally, as a passing game coordinator 55 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: he likes in New York. You saw what he did. 56 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: I also thought Caleb panicked when the first and second 57 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: receiver weren't there. Now again, Brian Flores, in my opinion, 58 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: I have said this for like a year, is the 59 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: best defensive coordinator in football. In my opinion, I think 60 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: the staff of Minnesota this year the Athletic to the piece. 61 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: It ranked San Francisco's second best overall staff, Minnesota number one. 62 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: So you may not face a coaching staff this good. 63 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: Green Bays is pretty good the rest of the season. 64 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: But Caleb does too many things that losing quarterbacks do. 65 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: The false starts now it's first in fifteen or at 66 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: second and twelve. He panics with pressure, his off script, 67 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: his accuracy dips when he's moving, and he had an 68 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: extra year ahead of JJ McCarthy. JJ McCarthy just hasn't 69 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: played in a couple of years. I mean he didn't 70 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: even play in the preseason much so I thought, when 71 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: you watch this game, there is a way to win 72 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: in this league. This is what Belichick talked about with Brady. 73 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: You can't have penalties, you can't play behind the sticks. 74 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: You have got to be moving forward. In Ben Jonson's 75 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: body language, he was frustrated, he was puzzled, he was 76 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,679 Speaker 1: swearing on the headset. It was just not good enough. 77 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: You got to give me more than talent. And here 78 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: was Ben Johnson after. 79 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: We said going into week one that the team that 80 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: would make the least number of mistakes would win the game, 81 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: and unfortunately we were on the wrong side of that. 82 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 3: We made too many there late in the game, myself 83 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: included twelve penalties. 84 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: That's got to get clean up in a hurry. And 85 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 4: yet we've been saying that all training camp as well, 86 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 4: so you know, we'll find a way to get that done. 87 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 4: It's going to be a collective effort. No one's pointing fingers. 88 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: First half, mostly on script, you felt pretty good about it. 89 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: The further Caleb got off script, hero ball, panicking, lack 90 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: of accuracy, all the things Scout said they were concerned about. 91 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: All right, JJ McCarthy, I've never seen a game like that. 92 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: I've never seen a quarterback do that. So the fact 93 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: that JJ McCarthy ended up with a ninety eight ASSER 94 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: rating after the first three quarters is remarkable. I mean, 95 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: the Vikings still only finish three for twelve on third 96 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: down and six fewer first downs than the Bears. They 97 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: were unwatchable offensively for three quarters. But I have found 98 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: my JJ McCarthy comp It's Baker Mayfield play at a 99 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: college power, tons of emotion, a lot of energy. I 100 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: wish they were bigger, but all they have to do 101 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: Baker and JJ McCarthy can go into slumps and get reckless. 102 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: But if they make one big throw and they gain 103 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: that confidence, their velocity and their accuracy changes. And he 104 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: after that pick six, which is about as bad is 105 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: any pick six I've ever seen. I mean, he was 106 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: bad in the first three quarters. But then there was 107 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: a moment for JJ McCarthy and this is very Baker Mayfield. 108 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: There was a moment. It was in the fourth quarter. 109 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: He hit Justin Jefferson with a seed and that this 110 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: playwright here unleashed some the next three drives, it was 111 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: a different JJ McCarthy, and this is Baker. All Baker 112 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: needs to step into it. One rope and Baker changes. 113 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: The ball comes out faster, more velocity, and more accuracy. 114 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: And again he's got Kevin O'Connell and Josh McCown. You 115 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: cannot get better as a quarterback. So what you really 116 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: saw from JJ McCarthy is an old saying, nobody is 117 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: going to believe in you in life until you believe 118 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: in yourself. And you watched his body language change. He's 119 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: like Baker. He plays with a ton of emotion. He 120 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: got a little chip on his shoulder. He wins a 121 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: lot of football games. But you saw two different quarterbacks. 122 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: The first three quarters was a coaching staff and again 123 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: he hadn't played much. That was protecting him and they 124 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: were kind of just waiting for it to happen. I 125 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: text somebody last night, an NFL exec, and I say, 126 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: I said, what do you make of this game plan? 127 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: And he goes in Koci trust. He didn't play much 128 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: in the preseason. He hasn't played a lot of snaps. 129 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: They're probably thinking in Minnesota, let Caleb Williams make mistakes 130 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: with Brian Flores. Let's just try to stay in the game. 131 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: He'll make a play later. And he did, and I 132 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: gotta tell you that was a different quarterback in the 133 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Here is Kevin O'Connell after JJ. 134 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 5: McCarthy for him to make some of the plays he did. 135 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 5: I told him at halftime, you are going to bring 136 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 5: us back to win this game. And the look in 137 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 5: his eye was fantastic. And the best thing is just 138 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 5: the belief I felt from the team, the unit. 139 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: And ultimately that doesn't get done without him. 140 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 5: In the second half, two passing touchdowns and then the 141 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 5: critical rushing touchdown. 142 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: You know at the end, now it does help. Minnesota's 143 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: got better ownership, a better front office, a proven coach 144 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: a better roster, they were favored in the game. I 145 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: said all week, this was the last blazing five pick. 146 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: I didn't pick. I picked Minnesota. I thought this was 147 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:06,239 Speaker 1: one of the games. I just trusted the Minnesota Viking organization, 148 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: their coaching staff. I think Ben Johnson's a really good coach, 149 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: but it's just in big games. Caleb Williams has often 150 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: been worse than the one o'clock window. So Minnesota now 151 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: this morning, J McK and I are laughing before the show. 152 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: What is JJ McCarthy. Well, I think he's going to 153 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: be closer to the fourth quarter than the first three. 154 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: And again it is Kevin O'Connell's called the tall Sean 155 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: McVay when he went to Minnesota, and people have talked 156 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: about if you drafted coaches right now, he'd be a 157 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: top three or four coach. He can build a culture. 158 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: He played in the league, tall, good looking guy with 159 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: a lot of confidence. Look what he did to Sam Darnold. 160 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: I don't think JJ McCarthy is gifted enough to get 161 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: a defensive coach or an average coaching staff and flourish, 162 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: But there is something about justin Jefferson, the production they 163 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: get their left tackle back. Soon they did start to 164 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: develop a run game, a pretty consistent run game in 165 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: the second half. That also health field position and confidence. 166 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: But if you're a Viking fan this morning and a 167 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: Bears fan, I know that one quarterback out played the 168 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: other for three quarters, But a Viking fan looks at 169 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: that fourth and says, I absolutely believe we've got our 170 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: guy for the next decade. I don't think anybody in 171 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: Chicago except maybe Caleb Williams, is thinking that this morning. 172 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if Ben Johnson's thinking that, because the 173 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: body language with Ben Johnson was disappointment. Even when JJ 174 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: McCarthy was struggling, I didn't sense that from Kevin O'Connell. 175 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: He was just sort of monitoring and watching, understanding the situation. 176 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: The body language from Ben was there, These are dialed 177 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: up to work and you're not hitting them. So J 178 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: Mac one of the I mean, how good was weak 179 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: one of the NFL unbelievable. 180 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 6: Everybody big TV game was unbelievable. It just some more 181 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 6: context from McCarthy. So he's only twenty two years old, 182 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 6: very young guy. Yes, left tackle Darris I was out 183 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 6: last night. 184 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: He's in a couple of I think he's coming back 185 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. 186 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 6: Adam Thielen was just traded for like five minutes ago, 187 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 6: had a draw, brutal drop. You know, Jordan Addison suspended, 188 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 6: like everything going against him and you're down on the 189 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 6: road at night in Chicago. 190 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: I thought that was unbelievable. What he did in the 191 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: fourth quarter now quite Josh Allen, unbelievable, but I mean 192 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: looking pretty impressive. Look at the last two fourth quarters 193 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: we've seen in the NFL. Baltimore dominates a game like 194 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: it's not competitive, dominating a game the wheels come off 195 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. Look, I mean, if I said, you know, 196 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: five adjectives to describe it, I mean, they're just it 197 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: looked a little intimidated, a little slow, a little hesitantic. Sixthness, 198 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: it was as bad as picks. He literally threw to 199 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: a bear in straw. Yeah, real quick. The division based 200 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: on what you saw this week. You don't want to overreact. 201 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 6: Green Bay's the best team, Okay, who's the second best team? 202 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: I would say Minnesota? Right Detroit? Oh? I did I 203 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: think those coordinators. I think it's a major issue. Go 204 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: back several years ago, think how good the roster was 205 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: for Philly. They hired coordinators that didn't work Week ten, 206 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: they were circling the drain coordinators. Go look at the 207 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: Niners defense with Robert Sala, Go look at it last year. 208 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: People don't understand these coordinators are game changers. 209 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 6: So this week, Chicago visits Detroit one PM. I believe 210 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 6: that's a Fox game, colling. That is kind of a 211 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 6: huge game for Caleb Williams and Detroit. Detroit can't lose 212 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 6: that can They can't start owing to two it's over, But 213 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 6: Caleb needs it badly given what happened in the final 214 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 6: three quarters. 215 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: Well, well, Minnesota defensively, in my opinion, is better than Detroit. Yes, 216 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: they were a top five defense last year. I think 217 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: total defense. I like Minnesota's defense better than Detroit's, which 218 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: can be a little hit and miss. I do love 219 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: Branch in the back end. 220 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 2: He's good. 221 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 6: That's a top five game this week. I know there's 222 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 6: a lot of good Listen, there's good games every week. 223 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 6: That's a top five game for me because I don't 224 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 6: want to say it's elimination in Week two column, but 225 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 6: you know we've seen this. Ohan two is a big 226 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 6: hole to climb out of. I can't believe how good 227 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 6: Week one was. I cannot believe how we were close 228 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 6: to you know, Bears seventeen to six, look like they 229 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 6: were about to run away with it. Remember Hawkinson fumbles 230 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 6: and I thought that was a legit fumble. 231 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen that when that was seventeen to six. 232 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: My take was, if the Bears get one more drive, 233 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: and even if they don't score, it is a field position. 234 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: Because JJ was playing with no confidence, I'm like, just 235 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: pin them deep, make JJ drive ninety four yards. We 236 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: could have a game that's over. I mean, was it? Just? 237 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes this league just pull stuff out of a hat. 238 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: And between the last two night games, we've seen incredible turnarounds, 239 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: one by a team and one by a quarterback. 240 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 241 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: and noon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 242 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio. 243 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 7: Hey what's up, everybody? 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Huschman, Zada and Plexico 254 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 7: Burrs on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 255 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 7: get your podcast from. 256 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: I think one of the things that's really troubling if 257 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: you're a Chicago Bears fan is did you see the 258 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions offense that was the number one offense in 259 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: the NFL? Did you see it against Green Bay? They 260 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: averaged three point eight yards to play, They could not 261 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: move the ball, they could not score a touchdown, and 262 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: Michael Parson's only played forty five percent of the snaps. 263 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: So the Lions offense against the Packers was abysmal. It's 264 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: the first time it's been bad in three years. It's 265 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: the first time they haven't had Ben Johnson. Also, Ben 266 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: Johnson was able on script to create the Bears scoring 267 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: a touchdown on the first drive. They didn't do that 268 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: all of last season. Also, Ben Johnson got Tyson beagent 269 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: in the preseason. They have a one zero seven passer rating. 270 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: Lions Tyson beagent first drive. If there's a struggle here, 271 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: it's not Ben Johnson. Here's one of the things that 272 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: would really concern me. I went and looked this morning, 273 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams last year and Caleb Williams against the Minnesota Vikings. 274 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: And again he's got moments. He's got that throw to 275 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: Romadnze last season, in this season, last season, and yesterday. 276 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: He's the same cornerback is even Ben Johnson met his match. 277 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: His lumbers last night are his numbers last year. There 278 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: was one throw in particular that really would trouble me. 279 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: It was fourth quarter, two thirty two left. Now they 280 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: scored eventually on this drive, but it wasted thirty seconds. 281 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: He misses a layup, and I mean he misses it 282 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: by eight yards, and that's what worries me. There were 283 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: open receivers. This had a justin fields field to it, 284 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: where you're like, dude, there's people there, they're open, you're 285 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: not seeing it, and when you do, you're about fifty 286 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: five percent on getting it there. So there is an analytic, 287 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: an analytic that is called expected completion percentage. So the 288 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: passes after everybody watches film that you should complete. I 289 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: don't buy into all the analytics, but it's an interesting one. 290 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: Caleb after last night dead last minus thirteen percent, so 291 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: he should have completed at least thirteen percent more of 292 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: his passes. So Ben Johnson is scheming Jared Goff open 293 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: Jared Goff and omer On Saint Brown. Should they really 294 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: lead the number one offense in the NFL. Shouldn't it 295 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: be like Josh Allen all the time or Lamar Jackson 296 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: and Derek Henry. I mean, I like amor On Saint 297 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: Brown a fourth round pick, and I like Jared Goff. 298 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: They shouldn't be the NFL's number one offense. They were 299 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: Tyson Bagent. You ever think Tyson beagent was going to 300 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: look that good like he did in preseason. So my 301 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: takeaway is we've got an elite coach. But for that 302 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: number to come out the low tide for the lowest 303 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: expected completion percentage, that's not good. That's an analytic that 304 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: people inside the league look at. Caleb Williams trying to 305 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: spin it positively. 306 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 8: There was a lot of good there our communication, you know, 307 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 8: I think I think he was getting the plays in 308 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 8: you know fast, and I've been able to get out 309 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 8: the huddle. You know, we need to be better with that, 310 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 8: and I've been able to get up to the line 311 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 8: make checks or whatever case may be. But you know, 312 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 8: I think I think it's a it's a growing process 313 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 8: that it's you know, it's going to keep growing from 314 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 8: here the start. This is the start, but definitely not 315 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 8: the definitely not the end now. 316 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: In fairness, JJ McCarthy looked bad for three quarters. Bo 317 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: Nicks didn't look good with Sean Payton, Caleb didn't look 318 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: bad in the first half. So there were moments for 319 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: other young quarterbacks where you're kind of that that didn't 320 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: look great. Now, not everybody's going to be Jayden Daniels, 321 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: Drake May did not have a good Sunday. I like 322 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: Drake May. So again, young quarterbacks the difference between the 323 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: great ones. You kind of get the same thing every Sunday. 324 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: You may lose, but you feel like I always feel 325 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: like even with Mahomes losing to the Chargers, you kind 326 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: of get the same greatness. And Tom Brady lost games, 327 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: but about every other year he'd have a stinker. So 328 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks are like young anything you get less consistency. 329 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: It's up and down. JJ was bad for three quarters, 330 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: great for one. I thought kayleb on script in the 331 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: first half was mostly pretty good. But the further he 332 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: got away from that script, the uglier and the less 333 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: accuracy he exhibited. That's a real thing. J Mack with a. 334 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 2: News, no news, this is the herd line news. 335 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 6: All right, Colin, I want to preface this first story 336 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 6: by saying, last year, in Week one, there were some craziness. Okay, 337 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 6: the Commanders got blasted by the Bucks. Commanders made the 338 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 6: NFC Championship game. Well, let's go into the Detroit Lions now, 339 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 6: and they were bad in week one. 340 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: Oh, they got humiliated by the Packers. 341 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 6: They were down twenty seven to six before a garbage 342 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 6: time touchdown. Goff and the offense were held without a 343 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 6: touchdown until literally the final minute of the game. Colin, Now, 344 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 6: Goff says, we need a lot more urgency. 345 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: Here we go. 346 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 9: Yeah, we'll move forward, fine, we will. We've got good 347 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 9: players getting coaches. 348 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 10: We'll be fine. 349 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 9: It's just there needs to be a urgency of improvement. 350 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: You know, it has to be. 351 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 9: And today wasn't even closer good enough, I think offensively 352 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 9: and we all have to work a lot of work 353 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 9: making sure everyone's on the same page and our communication 354 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 9: is better and getting lined up correctly and all that stuff, 355 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 9: and ultimately a lot of it falls on me. 356 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, some of it falls on you, but some of 357 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: it falls on play calling and lack of ingenuity. And 358 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: Green Bay is really good. So I'm looking at the 359 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: Bears last night. 360 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 6: Now, maybe the numbers haven't been updated, but I'm seeing 361 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 6: not many blitzes and they were still getting some pressure. 362 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 6: We know Goth okay, up the middle was struggling with 363 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 6: the backup center. 364 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: You know right now, Bear's got real pressure in the 365 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: first three quarters. 366 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 6: Okay, so if they did it without the blitz, that's 367 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 6: good news against Goth. Do you think what's your early 368 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 6: read on this? 369 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: And I'm not asking you to pick the game on 370 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: a two So I think this is something I strongly 371 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: believe in. Is when you lose great people in the 372 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: company and you decide we're just going to hire people 373 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: that are in house. Sometimes it works because they understand 374 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: our culture. But the best people in life in any industry. 375 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: If net Flix loses their content director, are you sure 376 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: the best guy in the world is at Netflix? So 377 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: I think, and that's my takeaway. You lose Ben Johnson 378 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: and Aaron Blenn, who were the best coordinator tandem in 379 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: the league. We talked about Ben Jonson for three years, 380 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: he was offered other jobs. He leaves. Well, let's give 381 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: it to the mid fifty guy in the building. I'm 382 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: just being honest. I've said this before. Remember David Cully 383 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: in Houston. He had been a long time no, he'd 384 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: been a long time assistant. Everybody loved and everybody's like, well, 385 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: he's a good guy. Houston hires him three weeks in. 386 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: You're like, there's a reason he hadn't interviewed for head 387 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: jobs for all those years. It's not a knock on people, 388 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: but the bottom line is staying in house to hire 389 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: the second biggest I would say head coaches number one 390 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: in this league OC is two. If you have a 391 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: seventeen person staff, the second most important hire is the OC. 392 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: And I think you replaced Ben Johnson with a guy 393 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: everybody likes in house. Roll the dice, Roll the dice. 394 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 6: We can make it Debatey, they went against the best 395 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 6: team in the NFC. You said yesterday the Packers looked 396 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 6: like one of the three best. 397 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: Team Packers are unbelievable. Packers are really good. The Chicago 398 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: Bears did not look great last night, Colin. So now 399 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: the Lions are at home, crowd's going to be juiced up. 400 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: You're on the turf, you know, I expect this team 401 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: to look way better. Never, don't I have a right 402 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: to avoid betting that game? 403 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 6: You do? 404 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: You certainly do that. I don't want to touch it. 405 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 6: I don't know what we're allowed to do with mentioning 406 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,239 Speaker 6: gambling companies, but I did see the Detroit Lions win 407 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 6: total has been adjusted down. 408 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: It is currently eight and a half. It's juiced like 409 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: you gotta lay? So what does that tell you? 410 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 5: And a half? 411 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: Now it's eight and a half? No, that's Vegas telling 412 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: you this is a eight nine team? 413 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 6: Or is that Vegas baiting you into betting on the 414 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 6: Lions all of a sudden stinking when they just faced 415 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 6: a jogger. 416 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: Remember when, I've never done this before. In all the 417 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: years I've been doing this, I've never watched a Hall 418 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: of Fame game and had and had a definitive statement. 419 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: Right the Hall of Fame game, the Lions were so disorganized, 420 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, sell your stock, Sell your stock, so part. 421 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 6: Of me wants to buy some stock because everybody everybody selling. 422 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 6: What does Warren Buffett say? When everybody's going one way 423 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 6: go the other? So I'm torn, but I think I'm 424 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 6: like you. They already asked me for I picks for 425 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 6: Friday's headlines. You go four and one, Jay, it's Tuesday, 426 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 6: we're the picks. I don't have a strong take on 427 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 6: this one, but I'm leaning Lions leaning it's early. Next up, 428 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 6: Colin is the Baltimore Ravens. Oh my gosh, Sunday night. 429 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 6: Just an unbelievable finish, but they started to dig into 430 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 6: the numbers, Colin, are you ready for this? 431 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: That loss? Being up two touchdowns late in the fourth, it. 432 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 6: Was the seventeenth time since John Harbaugh took over as 433 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 6: head coach where Baltimore has blown a double digit second 434 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 6: half lead. Harbaugh knows the number is way too high. 435 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 11: Maybe part of it is effect that we've been ahead a lot. 436 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 11: You know, We've won a lot of games, so we've 437 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 11: had a lot of and we've had a lot of 438 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 11: two score leads, so we've we've kept a lot of those, 439 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 11: but we've I think we've lost six of them. If 440 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 11: I'm not mistaken. That's too many. We need to be 441 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 11: really thoughtful of, you know, how we decide that we're 442 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 11: going to approach those situations going forward. You know, let's 443 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 11: give us some thought. 444 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: Let me let me defend Baltimore and harb On. This 445 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: is right, Okay. So one, no team has had more 446 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: blowout wins in the NFL over the last five years 447 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: than Lamar Jackson in the Raiders. They blow good teams 448 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: out regular in the regular season. Secondly, it's hard to 449 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: convince players leading by sixteen points or seventeen points with 450 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: seven minutes left all gas no breaks. Coaches coach more conservatively. 451 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: That is the reality of big leads in the NFL. 452 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: So it's not just their defense on the back end 453 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: they're off. Look at their last three offensive drives. You're 454 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: trying to convince a team that has dominated Buffalo, hey, hey, 455 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna come back when they were down fifteen with 456 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: three fifty to go. Did you think to yourself, we're 457 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: going to see an improbable comeback. Nobody and if Derreck 458 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: Henry doesn't fumble, they don't lose that game. Some of 459 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: this is Mark Andrews dropping a passer. Derrick Henry fumbling. 460 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: So I don't think it's an epidemic. But I do 461 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: think what he says is we lead big a lot. 462 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: It is hard. You know this, You talk about it 463 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: all the time. Backdoor covers are an epidemic in the NFL, 464 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: where you can watch a bad team trail by seventeen, 465 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: then they trail by seven and you lose your bet. 466 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: So I don't listen. They got to beat Kansas City, Okay, 467 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: they have to. Eventually they're gonna meet Buffalo again. And 468 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: I don't think this outcome will determine or defend or 469 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: change the next out. 470 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 6: Okay, that's a fair argument here. I get that if 471 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 6: we could get it on the screen one more time. Colins, 472 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 6: since twenty twenty two, they have blown seven second half 473 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 6: double digit leads. So twenty twenty two is only three years. 474 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 6: In one game, that's not even fifty games they've led 475 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 6: and blown seven. Now, I was talking with Zach Sharp, 476 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 6: guy went to Oregon, you know, And I'm sitting here like, 477 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 6: why are they consistently blowing these leads. They've got a 478 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 6: dynamic quarterback, they've got a great head coach, right, Harball's 479 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 6: all the top five coach? 480 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: Why? 481 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 6: And I couldn't come up with a legitimate reason, and 482 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 6: I like your reason, but it kay. 483 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: Okay, here's another thing. Okay, if you don't play Lamar 484 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: Jackson regularly, there is no comp at practice. That's why 485 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: he is so dominant against the NFC. He's like, he's 486 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: like twenty four and one against the NFC or some 487 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: absurd number. You can, you can have a guy that's 488 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: not mahomes but you can. You can find somebody in 489 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: your training camp can do some mahomes ish stuff. Lamar 490 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: is such a unique player. You can't practice for him, 491 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: and in the first half of games, literally you're on 492 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: your back foot. He's it's like Tyson in his prime. 493 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: It's like that power. Okay, oh my lord, if you 494 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: could get to round six against Tyson until you could 495 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: kind of figure out Tyson's power and the angles and 496 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: a lot of times I think a double digit lead 497 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: doesn't mean twenty, it can mean ten. And then all 498 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: of a sudden, now it's the eighth drive against Lamar. 499 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: You've kind of figured him out a little bit. This 500 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: is not bad. 501 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 6: That's probably some of your best work on the fly, 502 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 6: because remember in the NBA, twenty point leads were nothing 503 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 6: a couple of years ago because. 504 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: Of the ten point lead in the NFL. Is nothing 505 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: against Lamar and Dereck Henry. Did you see what J. J. 506 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: McCarthy did in the fourth find game. Yeah, the last 507 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: two night games, teams shraup three touchdowns and mante. 508 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 6: Remember Flores adjusted it halftime and the Bear couldn't move 509 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 6: the football. But just one final thought, like maybe this 510 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 6: is on harball and he needs to go to Lamar 511 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 6: when they're up in the second half and be like, dude, 512 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 6: all we do is blow leads, put these guys on 513 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 6: the canvas, wipe them out. Let's stay aggressive. Maybe they're 514 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 6: not doing enough of that. It's tough when you're leading. 515 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 6: But I know when I'm in the men's league and 516 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 6: we're leading, I'm jacking threes. 517 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: By the knockout more. 518 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. 519 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm sure everybody doesn't love it as 520 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: much as you do. I do. When you lead big, 521 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: the remedy isn't jack threes. But we don't blow leads, Lamar, 522 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: keep your foot on the gas. 523 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 6: Final story, you don't play the Bills. Also true final 524 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 6: story is the Miami Dolphins. Oh my gosh, oh oh. 525 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 6: Mike McDaniel's underfire. I mean, I know he looks cool 526 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 6: on the sideline with the aviators, but holy cav when 527 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 6: you lose to Daniel Jones by a billion, it's bad. 528 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 6: Mike McDaniels says things can only go up from here. 529 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 10: The good news and the positive is I don't I 530 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 10: don't see how it could be worse. And I also 531 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 10: believe in, you know, the coaches and players to get 532 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 10: it fixed because it wasn't. 533 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: You know, it's just a shame. 534 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 10: It's uh you you work behind the scenes for months 535 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 10: on end and you don't show any of it. 536 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: It's frustrating, but that can be a good thing. It's 537 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: not that you didn't show it. You didn't have fight. 538 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: That's a lack of belief in the coach. That's and again, 539 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: Chris Greer has been a GM there for almost a decade. 540 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: I don't like their roster. You could not watch that 541 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: game and think the Dolphins are close to the Colts 542 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: in a roster compet Colts have good players. Oh but 543 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: come on that We're okay, they've got nice weapons, they 544 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: got good believe. 545 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,239 Speaker 6: Vegas had the Dolphins of the higher wind total than 546 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 6: the Colts by by one game. 547 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, in the preseason. That's a quarterback thing, one's a 548 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: pro bowler, and. 549 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 6: One before you it sounds like you like the Patriots 550 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 6: this week. Just lay the lumber. Make sure you check 551 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 6: the weather. We always got to see if it's super 552 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 6: hot in September in Florida, and you know one sideline's 553 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 6: in the shade. 554 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: Miami plays those games. 555 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 6: Just let's let's not automatically lay the Patriots here, folks. 556 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: I didn't say I was picking it in the Blazing 557 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: five off a winning week, but I am. 558 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 6: It's under consideration, all right. Just they're not going to 559 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 6: look as bad. Miami's not going to be that. 560 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: Bad either, is New England. J Mack with the News, 561 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the. 562 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 2: Herd Line News. 563 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: I like when the Raiders win. Even though I'm a 564 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: Patriot guy and Vrabel guy. It's fun when the Raiders win. 565 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: It's it's optimistic, I'm and it's just I got Chip Kelly, 566 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: I got Pete Carroll, I got Max Crosby, I got 567 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: Brock Bowers, I got Ashton Genty. When the Raiders wins, 568 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: you see how well they traveled. Do you see how 569 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: many Raider fans were in Foxboro. 570 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 6: Would even texting the coaching staff. 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Go to Rocket Mortgage dot com today. 581 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 582 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: at noon. Easter not a im Pacific. 583 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: Start your Saturday with Big Noon. It's a New era. 584 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 6: Quarterback Dante More leads to Oregon's explosive attack into their 585 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 6: first Big ten matchup, taking on Northwestern. It all starts 586 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 6: at ten Eastern live from Evanston with the Big Noon 587 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 6: Kickoff crew. Then it's Oregon Northwestern only on Fox. 588 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: By the way, the weather in Chicago beautiful this weekend. 589 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: Should make a trip out there. Sometimes absolutely glorious Oregon 590 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: big in that one. Okay, So listen, nobody wants negative 591 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: callin all day. So here's the upside. I would say, 592 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: if you're a Bears fan, where's the silver lining? So 593 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: my take is I could certainly say that Brian Flores 594 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: is the best defensive coordinator you will face all year. 595 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: I believe that to be true. You will not face 596 00:31:54,800 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: a more sophisticated, aggressive, difficult coordinator defensively for a young 597 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: quarterback the rest of the year then Brian Flores. Secondly, 598 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: the Vikings defense will be one of the top three 599 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: U face all year. I mean, you play the Ravens, 600 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: they got lit up, You play the Steelers justin fields 601 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: ate them alive. If you look at the schedule, the 602 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: best defenses, the Bears play Philadelphia, Green Bay twice and 603 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: then Miles Garrett. That is all November. So the early schedule, 604 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,959 Speaker 1: Minnesota was the one defense with Brian Flores that was 605 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: a pretty tough row. I see a lot of Detroit's, Dallas, Washington, Vegas, 606 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: New Orleans, Baltimore, Cincinnati, the Giants, Oh, the Giants are 607 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: pretty good. That defense is going to be on the 608 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: field on a snap basis. More than any in the 609 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: league with that BB gun offense, injuries, fatigue, disenchantment, that 610 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: Giants defense six to seven, Russell Wilson Jackson starts in 611 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: may not play like that, may be banged up cause 612 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna be on the field a lot. And so 613 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: my take is this wasn't This was a tough lift. 614 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: There's a reason I liked Minnesota. I felt strongly about it. 615 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: I didn't feel strongly about it at halftime. But here's 616 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams on what he saw, what he envisions and 617 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: going forward. 618 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 8: We felt like we were dominated game, like you said, 619 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 8: and we were you know, uh, in control up to 620 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 8: two scores coming out of half. And uh that that 621 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 8: mentality is something that we have, something that we you know, 622 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 8: that we preach and that didn't happen today. And and 623 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 8: I'm not it's not a play call thing. It's not 624 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 8: anything like that. It's just being able to go out 625 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 8: there and execute the players that are called and be 626 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 8: able to you know, execut him at a high level. 627 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: And again, what the great coaches and coordinators do at half, 628 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: they flipped the script. Okay, that that's what great coordinating is. 629 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: It's not just the stuff on the script. I said 630 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: this when Matt Lafleur came over from Tennessee to Green 631 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: bad his first year, Packers were great in the first half. 632 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: He'd never been a head coach. He was great on script, 633 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: but he did not, to me, do a great job 634 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: at halftime. They were not a great third quarter team. 635 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: But by year two they were. So it is I mean, 636 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 1: Brian Floores made adjustments at half and it changed things. 637 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: And we saw this all weekend where the really good 638 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: coaches second half you get a different version of the 639 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: offense or the defense. So again, Ben Johnson was frustrated. 640 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: Brian Floores versus young quarterbacks has done a lot of damage. 641 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: It's a young quarterbacks confidence in his career was not 642 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: an easy lift. Detroit doesn't have Brian Floores, and I 643 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: don't think they have the defense. It's on the road. 644 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: But these days that's a point to a point and 645 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: a half. Okay. So now, when I picked the Niners 646 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: to finish third, Rams win the division, Seahawks wild card third, 647 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: people freaked out. I said, I love a lot of 648 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 1: the Niners, but they're brittle that they're an antique store. 649 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: It is old stuff breaks. What is the story this morning. 650 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 1: Brock Purty toe injuries, left shoulder. So now brock has 651 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: only missed three games and they're all in three when 652 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't play. And his big surgery was, you know, 653 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: after a conference championship game, so we didn't miss starts there. 654 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: But the injury report week one for the Niners, George Kittle, 655 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: now in his thirties, out for three to five weeks. 656 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: Trent Williams thirty seven, spent time in the Blue ten. 657 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: Brock Purty banged up. It is not a talent issue. 658 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: Brock Perty's oha has been slightly undersized. I wish he 659 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: was a little bigger. Having the easiest schedule isn't the 660 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: brag you think it is when stars aren't available and 661 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: starters aren't available. Here's the other thing. Do you know 662 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: who had the most touches in Week one? Christian McCaffrey 663 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: off an injury. That's not great. And remember in the division, 664 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 1: go ask c J. Stroud about the Rams defensive front. 665 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 1: So the Niners, oh lines not great. If Trent Williams 666 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: gets hurt, it's a bottom five or six ozer line. 667 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: Rams twice they were all over c J. Stroud. Seahawks, 668 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: by the way, had number one in the NFL in 669 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: hurries in Week one. So in fact, let me see 670 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: the official number here real quick. Yeah, the most pressures 671 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL Week one the Seahawks defense. You got 672 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 1: to face them again the Rams twice and Arizona spent 673 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: their entire draft on the defensive players. Will Johnson was 674 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: very good in the opener and they have a defensive coach, 675 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: so their defensive front is getting better. So this is 676 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: a division. Some divisions like the NFC North their offensive divisions, 677 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: the Rams defense. The Seahawks have a defensive coach. Arizona's 678 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: got a defensive coach. This is more of a I 679 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: mean even last year with the Rams when Pukin who 680 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: gets banged up, there's not a lot of pop. Even 681 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 1: with Matt Stafford to the Rams offense, they need who 682 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: go to be available. So here is Kyle Shanahan on 683 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: brock Perty's injury. I'd probably say that toads worse than 684 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 1: the shoulder. 685 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 4: And what about his availability this week? 686 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:18,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were not sure. 687 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: We got to see how it heals and how the 688 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: week goes on it. 689 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 10: I think I think Mack had a really good camp, 690 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 10: going back all the way to OTAs and training camp. 691 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 2: He has to go this week. 692 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 3: It'll lead to guys. 693 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: The guys will believe in them, and I know. 694 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 2: He'll do his job at a high level. 695 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Mac Jones would play if he doesn't. This just 696 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: in Tom Pellasaro, the Niners have waved kicker Jake Moody 697 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: third round. Picking a kicker. Don't love that. I don't 698 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: mind drafting a kicker. Gotta be late. They have waived him. 699 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: Got to kick, blocked, missed a kick, can't do it. 700 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: So John Lynch's drafting record has been very hit and miss. 701 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: They've done really good things late in the draft. Ricky 702 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: Parsol looks like a hit. They got Demo in the 703 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: second they've moved him. He was a hit. Obviously, brock 704 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: Perty is the hit of the decade. But the Jake 705 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: Moody thing, I think I think Jake Moody, I mean, 706 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: the criticism from the media and fans is that the 707 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: Niners were validating the pick by keeping him. He was 708 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 1: so bad last year. So I think this is one 709 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: of those to not to save the locker room, but 710 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 1: to really reassure everybody in the Bay we're not keeping 711 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: him just because we drafted him. The Niners are moving 712 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: or they moved off Trey Lance, who they waste all 713 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: those picks on first. They moved him fast, and I 714 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: think people were saying, you missed on Jake Moody. Move him. 715 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 1: So I hate it. I feel bad for the kid, 716 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: but I think you had to. 717 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 6: So you see them on the screen. It's Niners four 718 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 6: and a half. This was six and a half. They 719 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 6: are playing the Saints. Robert Salah against Spencer Rattler. I 720 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 6: think it's gay set match. I know it's back to 721 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 6: back road games and a lot of noises you like. 722 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: I think brock perty will play. I think he's a 723 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: tough kid in a gamer. Okay, at Iowa State he 724 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: got banged up. He didn't have all Americans in front 725 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 1: of him. I think broad plays. I think San Francisco wins. 726 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: And again, I think Robert sala is on a short 727 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: list with Brian Flores as the best defensive coordinator in 728 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: the league. And I think with young quarterbacks that's one 729 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: of the first things I look at, who's the young 730 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: quarterback going against Defensively? Do you have a big pass rush? 731 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 1: Do you have a veteran DC. I like the Niners 732 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: in that game even without Kittle. I like him to 733 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 1: win in cover. 734 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 6: They'll have a week to scheme up to New and 735 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 6: by who needs Kittle when you got Jake Tongis whoever 736 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 6: that is the guy who caught the game winner. The 737 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 6: other thing is I was on Arizona in New Orleans, 738 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 6: so I watched closely. Kyler Murray was like picking his 739 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 6: spots easily. The secondary for the Saint stinks. They traded 740 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 6: a lot of more last year. Yeah, so like they 741 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,959 Speaker 6: just don't have a lot. I think they're gonna be okay. 742 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 6: And by the way, Pierceall, we didn't talk about it. 743 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 6: He played well, you look good. 744 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,919 Speaker 1: And that Seattle secondary is top eight unit in the league. 745 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: That's very, very very good. 746 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 6: By the way, Seattle, I believe at Pittsburgh is a 747 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 6: really good game. 748 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: That is it's a field goal game. So something to know. 749 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: Seattle dialed up a lot of pressure against the Niners, 750 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: and the Steelers O line was not great. It was 751 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: they scored a lot of points, but they couldn't run 752 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: the ball and Aaron got smoked. 753 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 6: Does Pittsburgh look like a team that should be favored 754 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 6: by three? What is the over under on that? I 755 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 6: see forty Okay, I would take the under. I think 756 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,720 Speaker 6: Seattle's I mean, that defense looked very. 757 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,479 Speaker 1: I think Seattle Pittsburgh under forty and I hit my under. 758 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 1: That would probably be one of my blazing five picks. 759 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: Are you gonna do more totals than the blazon? Well, 760 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: you know, I'm also going to do a proper to 761 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: really yeah, getting exotic on us. Well, there are a 762 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: couple of props this weekend. I looked at it, so 763 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: I had two props and I just looked at it. 764 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 6: I like, remember the Mark Andrews to score that did 765 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 6: not happen because they never got in the red zone 766 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 6: because Derek Henry scoring from sixteen. 767 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: But if you look at the week two schedule, just 768 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: don't over value week one. But there are things that 769 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: are true. Seattle's defense under Mike McDonald is hyper aggressive. 770 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: They've drafted well, it's young, it's active, and I think 771 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: they look at the Steelers' O line and lack of 772 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: run game and see a very and a forty one 773 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,240 Speaker 1: year old quarterback. I think Seattle's looking at film thinking 774 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: Aaron doesn't move, they don't run the ball. We got 775 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: to get to Aaron fast. So I think you're going 776 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,720 Speaker 1: to see a super aggressive Seahawks defense in pitch and if. 777 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 6: Donald doesn't drop the ball look like the ten yard line, 778 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 6: they probably. 779 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: Win the game. 780 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 9: Yeah. 781 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: So when we've said this, sometimes teams lose like Dallas lost, 782 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: but it's baked in because everybody watched it. Not everybody 783 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: watched that regional game. Not everybody watched the Seahawks. Seahawks 784 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: were poised to win and Donald bumped into his own 785 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: teammate and fumbled. 786 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 6: Not everybody watched the Titans. 787 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: Do you want to get to that game at some point? 788 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: My favorite game of the weekend is Titans at home 789 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: plus five and a half against the Rams. That's my 790 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,479 Speaker 1: favorite pick of the week. Cam Ward had to watch 791 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: the game. He can spin it.