1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Hi. I'm Jason Flamm, and I'm the host of Wrongful 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Conviction with Jason Flamm. 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: And I'm Robbia Jaudry, attorney and co host of Undisclosed. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: We want to talk to you today about your responsibilities 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: as an upstanding citizen and how they relate to you 6 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: serving on a jury. 7 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: So we know, Robbia, we're all eligible for jury duty. 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: We all get those notices in the mail time to time, 9 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: and it's usually a big imposition. Everybody feels like, oh damn, 10 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: I got so many other things to do. But I 11 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: want to urge everyone to try to change your attitude 12 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: about this. We should all view jury duty as an 13 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: opportunity to be a very necessary watchdog for those in 14 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: power and to make sure that real justice is done. 15 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: That takes each and every one of us. But I'm digressing. 16 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: So let's say you're in the jury room and the 17 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: case is a serious case and deliberations taking a long time. 18 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: Everyone wants to get back to their lives, back to 19 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: their jobs and families, but the pressure is on to 20 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: come to a decision. What are some of the things 21 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: that people should remember. 22 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: Well, first, I want to remind folks that listen your 23 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: decision is going to alter lives. It's going to alter 24 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 2: turn somebody's life, maybe forever, So you have to take 25 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: it really seriously. Nobody can get through a trial and 26 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: remember every single thing that happens. So if you're allowed 27 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: to take notes during the trial, make sure you have 28 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 2: those notes, use those notes during deliberations. If you don't 29 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: understand something, if you do not understand some testimony, some evidence, 30 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: ask the question, make the question available to the judge. 31 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: You can send a note to the judge. You can 32 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: ask one of the attorneys to clarify something. Make sure 33 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: you know every single thing you need to know before 34 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: you make the decision. And if you're feeling pressured by 35 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: your peers, you do not have to change your vote. 36 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: I don't care. If you're the only one holding out. 37 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: You can send a note to the judge and just 38 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: end deliberation. Somebody wanting to be with their family, just immediately. 39 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: It's no reason to deprive someone else of their family 40 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: while they wrot in prison. Do not feel the pressure. 41 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: The judge can decide whether it's a hung jury or not, 42 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: but being pressured into voting guilty or not guilty should 43 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: not be a thing. Don't let it happen to you. 44 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: Now you'll spend the rest of your life feeling guilty 45 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: yourself about having given somebody a life sense or ten 46 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: years or whatever it is, for something they may not 47 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: have done. Remember during nullification is a thing. If you 48 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: have to, if you feel it too much pressure, send 49 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: a note to the judge say I'm done. I'm not 50 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: voting guilty no matter what, and that's it and you're done. 51 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: You don't have toccumb to the pressure, and please don't. 52 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: To learn more and get involved, listen to Undisclosed. 53 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 2: And listen to the Wrongful Conviction podcast. Remember, as a juror, 54 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: this is your responsibility. 55 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: Right, So it's almost like a juror's bill of rights. 56 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: And the more you understand, the better the chance is 57 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: that we'll get actual justice that will have a fairer 58 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: system for everyone.