1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, Emily a body here with another episode of Hurdle, 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: a podcast that dots to everyone from entrepreneurs to top 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: CEOs and athletes about how they've gotten through tough times 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: hurdles of sorts by leaning in to wellness. Today, I'm 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: going to be chatting with Ali Love. She is a 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: total rock star and a boss, an instructor at Peloton, 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: the founder of Love Squad, a host for the Brooklyn Nets, 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: and so many more things. Before we get into it, 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: a quick shout out to my sponsor. 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Slash hurdle to get yours today, 36 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: No code necessary. All right, now, let's talk about Miss Ali. 37 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: Love that Ali is a total girl boss. Not only 38 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: is she the in arena host of the Brooklyn Nets, 39 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: She's also an Adidas Global Ambassador. She is the founder 40 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: of Love Squad, which you'll hear all about in today's episode, 41 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: and also a Peloton instructor. But at the age of 42 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: nine years old, Love experienced our hurdle moment when she 43 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: was involved in a car accident that left her in 44 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: critical condition. The accident left her with cracked teeth and 45 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: a broken femur, to which doctors told her that she 46 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to walk for a very long time 47 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: and the thought of playing sports was out of the picture. 48 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: But well to this day, I can tell you this 49 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: woman is impossible to be stopped, and she was determined 50 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: to prove them wrong. Years later, she moved to New 51 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: York to go to college, and she became a dancer 52 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: for the New York Knicks. And then eventually she found 53 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: running in hot yoga and that's really where her love 54 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: for fitness all began. She started doing some fitness modeling 55 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: and then eventually made her way to Peloton. I'm sure 56 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: I've got a lot of Peloton fans listening right now. 57 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: Let me tell you this conversation is truly special. Ali 58 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: is inspiring a woman. We talk about where she gets 59 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: her tenacity from the importance of a stellar support system. 60 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: We also talk about her faith and how that guides 61 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: her through her day to day decisions and what life 62 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: is like trying to fit absolutely everything in as someone 63 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: who can relate as someone who's constantly running around. Let 64 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: me tell you, it was pretty therapeutic to have some 65 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: time just to chat the two of us. So yeah, 66 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm excited to bring you our convo. You guys know 67 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: the Drill at Hurdle podcast at Emily a body. Let 68 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: me know what motivational tidbit you love from this episode, 69 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: and like I said, there are a lot. If you 70 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: have a hurdle moment of your own to share or 71 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: just want to say hi, you guys know how to 72 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: reach me. It's Emily at Hurdle dot us and exciting 73 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: news for anyone in the Chicago area. I'm going to 74 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: be doing a five K shakeout on Friday, October eleventh. 75 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: More details to come, but I just want to get 76 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: it on your radar. I'm thinking we're going to do 77 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: it sometime around four thirty in the afternoon, so stay tuned. 78 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: Shoot me a message if you're going to be in 79 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: the area, and I'm really looking forward to it. With that, 80 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: let's get to hurdling today. I'm sitting down with Ali Love. 81 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: She is a Brooklyn Nets host. She's the founder and 82 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: CEO of the Love Squad. She's an instructor at Peloton 83 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: and also an Adidas Global ambassador. Hey, hey, I love 84 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: introducing people with the laundry life of accolades. 85 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: It's like I always say, I'm a part of the 86 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: slash generation, if not like forging the way for it, 87 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: where it's like you're this slash. 88 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: This slash can you give you many things in life? 89 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: I think it's fun, especially in the fitness world, when 90 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: people start to concept their own ideas and grow businesses 91 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: and things. I remember in episode two, I interviewed Alex 92 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: Silverfagan and she calls herself a fitness entrepreneur. 93 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: Oh, I love her by the way, she's exceptional a jem. 94 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: I mean, right now, we're recording this right after the 95 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: US Open, We're coming off of an exciting time for 96 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: you. You did some hosting there, so first of all, tell 97 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: me how did you get into hosting? 98 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: So actually, I started off in New York City modeling. 99 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: I wanted to be a model, signed with Wilhelmina after 100 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: modeling for a couple of years. It was this moment 101 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: where it was just like, I want to use my voice. 102 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: I love the fact that we're taking photos and I'm 103 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: you know, doing these campaigns, but I want to have 104 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: a point of view. I want to have a POV. 105 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: And the only way to do that was to maybe 106 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 2: do commercials where you're like learning to get familiar with 107 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: a camera in the different way. And it was from 108 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 2: took some classes on camera classes and they offered hosting 109 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: as another as to go in tandem with these commercial classes. 110 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: And I was just like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm taking 111 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: these I'm taking all the classes I can take right now. 112 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: And it was my first hosting class that I fell 113 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: in love when I was like. 114 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: Ah, this is what I was made to do. 115 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: I thought it was me doing like an All of 116 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: the Lake commercial, like your Skin's clear, you know, like chras, 117 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 2: like absolutely favorite toothpaste. No, it was me sitting down 118 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: discussing topics that were meaningful and learning about people through conversation. 119 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: I love that And is that kind of what triggered 120 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: you to want to do a lot of the live 121 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: events with Love Squad? And we can also break into 122 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: what Love Squad is as well. Yeah, totally. 123 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: It was one of those things where I enjoy sitting 124 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: down having conversation. I think conversation changes people's lives. It 125 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: gets your thought processes going. It really puts you in 126 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 2: a position to reconsider or sometimes to consider where you 127 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: are in your life. And it's a catalyst to many changes, 128 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 2: great changes for most people. And I knew that after 129 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 2: doing this hosting a basic hosting class where I was 130 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 2: just like interviewing fun people on the street as our 131 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 2: end of this hosting class challenge. And it was just 132 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: in this moment that I realized, like, Hey, you know what, 133 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: there's a lot to have in conversations with people that 134 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: are doing things in their lives, both personally and professionally. 135 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: And it's one of those things that when Love Squad 136 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: was birth, it was like, Hey, in order to get 137 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: better at hosting, I got to get better at writing. 138 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: In order to get better at writing, I got to 139 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: get better at like talking to people about the things 140 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: that I'm writing about. And so I created love Squad 141 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: where we it's an inclusive collective around encouraging and inspiring 142 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: and empowering people specifically around things that affect women through conversation, 143 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: having those panel discussions, giving tools and tips on how 144 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: to be effective in your personal and professional life. 145 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: And is Love Squad a collective that's obviously New York 146 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: City based but nationwide international or how are you activating 147 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: in that way? 148 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: So we're young, we're Strappie. It's two other women that 149 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: work on the team. And yes, we are based in 150 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: New York. And since we're a small team and we're 151 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: still growing, our hands really reach the backs of the 152 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: New Yorkers and those that are coming and visiting. We've 153 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: done some of it in Chicago. 154 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: We've done some things. 155 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: Ideally, Yes, I would love to think of us as 156 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: a global brand, but I don't want to get too 157 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: big for my britches in a sense of being honest 158 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: of where we are and what we do. So, yeah, 159 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: we're mostly in New York, and I'd say most of 160 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: North America would know us a little bit more given 161 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: the reach of what I have. 162 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: Going on personally, I love the term you just use 163 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: our hands reach the backs of New York career. 164 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I actually ael that, you know what, I actually 165 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: got to give a shout out. That's one of my friends, 166 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: my friend's Christine she is her instagrams, I am, I can't, 167 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: I will I do? And she always says that, like 168 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: let me put my hands on your back, and I'm like, 169 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: please do. And while you're there, Massajaise. 170 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: I love something that you posted a few weeks ago. 171 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: You put up this post it that said put your 172 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: ego aside and ask for help. No one has ever 173 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: made it to the top alone. Obviously we just listed 174 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: a ton of accolades. You're a busy, busy lady. I 175 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: feel you very hard. So is that what you do 176 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: when you get overwhelmed? Do you reach out to people? 177 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: Do you ask for help? Oh? 178 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely. One of the things I do often in my 179 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 2: personal life is that I'll take a feedback session, internal 180 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: feedback session, take note of like who my friends are, 181 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: take note of how I'm spending my time outside of work, 182 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: take note of like how's my boyfriend and I doing? 183 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: Like how am I doing with my family? And I 184 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: kind of ask for feedback from those people that I 185 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 2: am affecting that I'm building relationships with. So I'll ask 186 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,599 Speaker 2: my friends like how do you feel about this relationship? 187 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: Like how can I support you better? And then do 188 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,239 Speaker 2: the exact same thing I would say bi annually professionally, 189 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 2: I'll reach out to my community at Peloton and say, 190 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: how can I service you better? What am I doing 191 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: that you love? What am I doing that you don't 192 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 2: particularly like? You want a crowd source information about what 193 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: you're offering and who you are. And I think that 194 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 2: the same thing goes for love squad. What do you 195 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: like at these events? What do you love talking about? 196 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 2: And so when asking for help, I have to ask 197 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: for what I'm doing well so I can continue to 198 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: do that, but also what I'm not doing well. And 199 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: I think when I get to a point when I 200 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: get that information, I end up reaching out to friends 201 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: or people. I always say it's low hanging free, not 202 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: to kind of make it sound less than what it is, 203 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: or reach out to those people that are easy to 204 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: connect you that I may have not connected with yet 205 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: and asked them advice. I just sat down with someone 206 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: I slid in their DMS who I respect and was like, Hey, 207 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: you do a lot of writing, you do a lot 208 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: of media. How can I get more people to editors 209 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 2: to write about me? How can I set myself self up? 210 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: What are you looking for? And it's one of those 211 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: things in a feedback session that I got with a 212 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: friend and was like, you need more press, girl, People 213 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: You're working hard. People need to know about you. So 214 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: again taking that crowdsourcing information that I've crowdsourced that information 215 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: and putting it to work and reaching out sliding into 216 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: those dms to say, hey. 217 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: Can you help me? 218 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 2: Because again, yeah, no one's made it to the top alone, Like. 219 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: Have you gotten to a point sometimes because I'm sure 220 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: when you first started asking for the feedback and sometimes 221 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: it was negative, it was hard for you to deal 222 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: with it. So how did you kind of flip the 223 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: script to be okay with getting that negative feedback and 224 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: then proactively doing something about it instead of internalizing it 225 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: and maybe feel and kind of heard about it. 226 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: I have to say it is a skill set. It's 227 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: not about getting thicker skin. It's just switching the lens 228 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 2: to which you receive information. You're gonna sit down with someone, 229 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 2: maybe you respect them, maybe you know them, maybe you don't, 230 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: and they may be a little brasher than other people 231 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: and give it to you straight. But the reality at 232 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 2: the end of the day is this person's offering time 233 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 2: and insight that you didn't have otherwise. So I look 234 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: at it as personally, I respect their time enough to 235 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: say what they're telling me they've thought about. And then 236 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 2: number two, oftentimes we hear follow your heart. Most times 237 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: I'm confused about that. I'm like, my heart's wants chipople 238 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: and donuts. I'll follow it. But it's like knowing the 239 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: difference of following your heart and getting feedback that may 240 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: not be applicable to you at that moment, So differentiating 241 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: and distinguishing feedback that you can apply right now and 242 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: some things that you may need to just put a 243 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: pin in for later. And that's when I would say yes, 244 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: in that moment, gut check, take inventory of where you 245 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: are physically, emotionally and spiritually, where you want your business 246 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: or your personal life to go, and then make sure 247 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: that that information is applicable at that time. 248 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: I also think it's important. So have you ever had 249 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: like a typical nine to five job, No. 250 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: I needed a moment. I did have a college job, 251 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: a job in college, and it was actually overnight. I 252 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: worked at CVS. It was one of my first Yeah, 253 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: homegirl had to make a living and talk about muscles real. 254 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 2: I went to Fordham University and I studied. I got 255 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: a bachelor's in Fine Arts, and through that you have 256 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 2: to do academics and you have to dance, and so 257 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: your ballet classes are used at seven am in the morning, 258 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: sometimes six am wow. And you needed to have a 259 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 2: job because you needed to be able to do school 260 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: work to pass your classes. You need to be there 261 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: for rehearsals for any of the additional dance pieces that 262 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: you're part of, and of course your curriculum for dance. 263 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: So I needed to make money and the only other 264 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: time was to cut out a little bit of sleep 265 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: and work at CBS from eleven to six am. 266 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: Oh, I know, this is like a twenty four or 267 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: pharmacy or yes, wow, it's kind. 268 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: Of like your Duane read like you're yes. And so 269 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: I work the counter there and I would bring my 270 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: laptop sit there because obviously it's not as much traffic 271 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: at night, and I would sit there doing writing my 272 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: papers and waiting, like you know, people would come in 273 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: and purchase whatever they're to purchase. I ring them up 274 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 2: for whatever how many hours that was. And I did 275 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: that a few days a week because I needed to 276 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: make cash. I think that was my closest to a 277 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: nine to five. And I'm not mad about it. 278 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, well you've been like an entrepreneur for quite 279 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: some time. Is like what I'm trying to get at here, 280 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: because a lot of people, I think they step into 281 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: this path of entrepreneurship are going out on their own 282 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: or being our contractor, and they just expect to have 283 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: a lot of these insights that you are just kind 284 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: of throwing down right now. And what I think is 285 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: important to drive home is that it's a lot of 286 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: trial and error. Oh yes, and it's taken you a 287 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: lot of time to learn and obviously every single day 288 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: to grow and to be better. It's not like it 289 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: just happens overnight when you're like, I'm going to go 290 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: and do all this stuff on my own. 291 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: It doesn't work like that. And I think, yes, it's 292 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: one of again quoting a Malcolm Gladwell book, is like 293 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: ten thousand hours before you become an overnight success, right, 294 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: you have to put in the work. But the reality 295 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: of the situation is on those and I set you 296 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: birth an idea. I would strongly encourage someone to make 297 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: sure every day you're having a meaningful conversation with someone 298 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: that you do not know or reading something that you 299 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: haven't read or that you would normally read, of implementing 300 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: some advice that you wouldn't normally implement or you wouldn't 301 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: you would in most cases disregard because you don't feel 302 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: like it's fitting for you. Trying something new every day 303 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: is really important. It's not about just I'm going to 304 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: try a new food or I'm going to do bungee 305 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: jumping something like that, but trying something new in terms 306 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: of let me read, let me pick up the economists 307 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: and read it. Even though my business has nothing to 308 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: do with the numbers particularly, but hey, growing a business 309 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: affects the economy. The economy affects a growing business as 310 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: an entrepreneur, so having some of those elements of trying 311 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: something new every day does help your business, does help 312 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: your idea of potentially creating a business or becoming the entrepreneur. 313 00:14:58,960 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: Because it's scary. 314 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's scary, that's all right. It's like 315 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: I get a political newsletter in my inbox every day 316 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: and I only subscribed for the first time because a 317 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: man that I went to summer camp with when we 318 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: were like eight is one of the names on the masthead, 319 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I'll subscribe to this newsletter. I 320 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: read it every day on the subway. I know like 321 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: twenty percent of what actually any of it means, and 322 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, eh, better for it. Like maybe I'll learn something, 323 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: maybe I'll start to understand something that I didn't know before. 324 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: But politics, man, it's a tough world out there. It's 325 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: a tough world out there. Okay. So what I'd love 326 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: to do with you, now that we've gotten so many 327 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: good nuggets of wisdom in the first ten minutes, is 328 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: to kind of dial it back and hear a little 329 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: bit more about where you come from and then how 330 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: you you know you mentioned going to Fordham, so how 331 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: we even got there? So where did you grow up? 332 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: I grew up in Miami, Florida three h five all day, 333 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: so you're proud of it all day? 334 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I grew up there, Okay. And did you 335 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: always know that you wanted to go to school and 336 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: relocate to New York. 337 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: I always knew that I wanted to become a New Yorker, absolutely, 338 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: so grow before I became a dancer. I got hit 339 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: by a car at the age of nine years old 340 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: and broke my left femur and almost died. So I 341 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: was in a hospital, and I remember like the doctor 342 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: was like, oh, she'll never really run, telling my parents like, 343 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: she'll walk, but she will never be as an athlete, like, 344 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: so make sure you're positioning her for a lane of 345 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: success that's possible. So almost I came out of the 346 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: hospital seven days later, and the next summer of my 347 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: mom's best friend put her daughter into this summer camp 348 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: where they offered dance, and I was like, I want 349 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: to get into that summer camp. And I was homeschool 350 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 2: for a year, so I was really in need of 351 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: socializing at the age of ten, and so I went 352 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: in this summer camp. They offered dance or started dancing, 353 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: nothing too serious, and I remember the teacher was saying, 354 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: tell my mom at one of the performances, like your 355 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: daughter is really talented. And my mom was like, absolutely not. 356 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: She has no rhythm. She's not going to be a dancer. 357 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: And I was like, actually, Mom, I love this thing. 358 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: I want to do it more. 359 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: And so when I was younger, every summer after that, 360 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: I went to a ballet school where they sent a 361 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: group of girls and young boys to New York to 362 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: dance to get a scholarship. In one of the schools, 363 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: so like Alvin Ailey to like dance here of Harlem, 364 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: sab So. I went to dancing of Harlem every summer 365 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: growing up up until high school. Throughout high school where 366 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 2: I came here, I lived six weeks in New York, 367 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: maybe it was eight weeks in New York with a 368 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: group of girls at my age, and we got to 369 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: experience New York relatively young, and I fell in love 370 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: with the city. 371 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: So regardless of running after the accident, you must have 372 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: been moving fine. 373 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: I was. When my mom said to the dance teacher 374 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: that she was not a great dancer, I think at 375 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 2: that moment she was right. I couldn't really move as 376 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: well as everyone else. But it was one of those 377 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: things where I was super determined. I fell in love 378 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 2: with dance, and I was like, this is what I 379 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: want to do for the rest of my life. And 380 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: it wasn't a matter of I of being the best 381 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: one in the class, who or anything like that. It 382 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 2: was just like I loved it so much that this 383 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 2: was it for me moving my body, especially when someone 384 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: said I would I couldn't and that I wouldn't. At 385 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: that age, I was pretty resilient and I mean, my 386 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: mom instilled it in me because I remember laying in 387 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 2: the hospital bed in the hospital and after the accident 388 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: had just happened and I was losing a lot of blood. 389 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: I might need it a blood transfusion, and you know, 390 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: think about your parents that like your little girl got hit. 391 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: By a car. 392 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 2: I like a hit by car, flew up in the air, 393 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: landed on the hood of the car and rolled off, 394 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: and my hip was broken and broke my teeth. It 395 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: was just one of those things that you don't see 396 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: at that age, or just you don't see in life. 397 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: And I remember having this conversation. Some things never leave 398 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: you as a kid, as we all know, having this 399 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: conversation and my mom told me, there's nothing I can 400 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 2: do for you at this moment in life. I wish 401 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 2: I could trade places. There's nothing I can do for 402 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: you at all. However, there's something you can do for yourself. 403 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: And we're religious people and we believe in God. And 404 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: she's like, you have to pray to God to save 405 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 2: your life, and you have to trust him and believe 406 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: him that he's going to and you have to have 407 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 2: you need to have a will to live. So if 408 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: you want to live it's possible, but you are going 409 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: to need that will and you have to make that decision. 410 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: So giving life or death to a nine year old 411 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: in a bed after being going through something that was 412 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: devastating was a huge responsibility and undertaking and it was 413 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: something that my mom offered me, and it's something that 414 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: I will never forget because decisions like that at nine 415 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: years old has never left me. When you come to 416 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 2: New York, think about where you are in life. You 417 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: have to make huge decisions and making decisions aren't easy, 418 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: and making no decision is still making a decision. So 419 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 2: at nine years old, I had to make a decision 420 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: and I never stopped and never stopped making that decision 421 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: to choose the life, to choose to live. 422 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: So choose to live, and then choose to dance. And 423 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: absolutely you knew from those summers coming up to New 424 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: York that you wanted to come here as soon as 425 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: you got the chance. For a much longer period of time. 426 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 2: Well, as you can tell, I do speak fast. I 427 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: do a lot of things fast, and so does New York. 428 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, I've found a. 429 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: Rhythm that match is my heartbeat. 430 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: And I was like, this is where I belong. I 431 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: found my tribe of go getters, of people that are 432 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: determined that, yeah, we get down at times, we cry, 433 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 2: you know, we eat a lot of donuts, and then 434 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 2: we move on and we bossed up at to that, 435 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 2: you know, and I think that that's something that I 436 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 2: truly love about this city. 437 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you did you know you wanted to go 438 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: to Fordham or how did that? 439 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: I didn't know that I wanted to go to Fordham. 440 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: But my mom did the right thing. My parents did 441 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: the right thing. My mom and dad was like, you 442 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: have to go to college. You can do dance, you 443 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 2: can go be a dancer, you can move to New York, 444 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: can do whatever you want, but one request is you 445 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: have to graduate. And they were right. It gave me 446 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: a safe haven, a safe bubble to experience a big 447 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: city in so you know, you're protected. In college, you 448 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: have things to do, their structure. Instead of moving up 449 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 2: here alone and saying, oh my god, what do I 450 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 2: do do I keep auditioning and things like that. A 451 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: lot of people do that and they do very well. 452 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 2: I am very grateful that I went the route of school. 453 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so in school, when you moved to the big city, 454 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: what's different when you move here full time versus when 455 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: you're coming to like visit. Does it hit you in 456 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: this big way that you're like, oh my god, this 457 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: is actually my home. 458 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 2: It was the yeah, it hit me that way, but 459 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: it was actually the opposite in terms of, OMG, I 460 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: have a shot, this is my shot. 461 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 462 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 2: I truly felt when I got I came one way ticket. 463 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: Your family drops you off at the airport, tries not 464 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: to cry. You're like, mom, stop crying. My dad's the worst. 465 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: He's the one that cries the worst. He cried, and 466 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 2: he was just like, you can do this, and I 467 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: think you were built for this. And so wa one 468 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: way ticket to New York City came here and I 469 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: was just like, no one's going to stop me. No 470 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: one's going to stop me. And I think that no 471 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: one has. 472 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: I've had. 473 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 2: I've had some rough times like we all have, and 474 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: just like being get hit by a car, I would 475 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: never change that in a million years. But I one 476 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: of the things that I always say, like, there's something 477 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: truly beautiful and being basic and going back to the basics, 478 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: and it's humbling to think of that experience in times 479 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 2: that I'm sad and overwhelmed, and times that I get 480 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: those no's, and times that I have to start over, 481 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: in times where I feel. 482 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: Like nothing's working out for me. 483 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: When it of course rains, it pours, it floods, I 484 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 2: have to think of that moment of just being grateful 485 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: that was a moment you could have died and you're 486 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: living in. Yes, it's hard, but you keep pressing cold. 487 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: Bumping into today's episode to give a whoop a little 488 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: bit of love. Guys, I'll admit it. I took off 489 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: my woop strap to go grab a drink with a 490 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: girlfriend last night. It wasn't exactly what I was hoping 491 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: in my outfit choice, but as soon as I got home, 492 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: the first thing I did before getting into bed was 493 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: put it back on. And that's because by putting the 494 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: strap on before I get cozy for the night, I 495 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: feel indebted to myself to get the most out of 496 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: my time in between the sheets. The cool thing about 497 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: Loop is that it actually gives you a target or 498 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: optimal sleep time based on how staring us your day was, 499 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: and then you can track that sleep performance with insight 500 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: into your sleep cycles and stages of sleep, sleep quality, 501 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: and sleep consistency. According to the company, the average Wop 502 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: user has dedicated an additional forty one minutes of sleep 503 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: for night. I don't know if you're anything like me, 504 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: but those forty one minutes that can be a total 505 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: game changer. 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I loved it so much. 516 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 2: It was not until so I had that like, yes, 517 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 2: this is it for me. It was not until I 518 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 2: was about to graduate my senior year I was doing 519 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: like these internships with companies and performing that I realized 520 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: how hard and challenging it was to live in New 521 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: York City on a dancer's salary. I we need to 522 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: change that. One two dancers are not wrecking their body, 523 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 2: but putting their body through so many challenges to do 524 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: what they love and not being able to afford sometimes 525 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 2: their apartment alone, like you have to have a roommate, 526 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: and not all dancers. Everything's different, but for the most part, 527 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 2: once I realized that, I was just like, you know what, 528 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: I don't think that I need to I want to 529 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: go down that path of being a starving artist. It 530 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 2: can be fulfilling, but it's not I don't think it 531 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 2: was my lot in life. And so I found I 532 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 2: met someone who was like a friend of mine who 533 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 2: was like, models, make this, this and this. And I 534 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: was like, you're telling me that not moving my body 535 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: but using my body to take photos, not necessarily have 536 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: live art, is going to yield me more income to 537 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: able to live in the city and continue to create 538 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 2: the life that I want and to continue to dance 539 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 2: on the side. And they were like yes, And so 540 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 2: I went down the modeling route. I went into a 541 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: friend of a friend recommended me. I went into Wilhelmina 542 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 2: and they gave me a contract and it was one 543 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: of those things like not that doesn't happen all the time, 544 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: But I also reached out to like a ton of 545 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: agencies and my research and was like, hey, I'm this 546 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: non model trying to be a model and make money, 547 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: and somebody said yes, after really knocking down a lot 548 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: of doors. 549 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: Do you remember your first modeling job. 550 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I actually went into fitness modeling because you one 551 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 2: of the things when you're building a brand and building 552 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: a business. One of the things that I didn't realize 553 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 2: that I did at that age, but was great that 554 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: I did was find a pocket, find an area and 555 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 2: a niche that worked for me. So I didn't have 556 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: this dream of becoming like Victoria's secret supermodel, because there 557 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: was an aesthetic that went along with that. Whether right 558 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 2: or wrong, there is, you know, a way to get there. 559 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 2: It's not impossible. But I knew that because I was dancer, 560 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 2: I was athletically built. 561 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: There was a new arise of. 562 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 2: Athletic modeling, of sports modeling, and I was like, you 563 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 2: know what, this is a way, this is an area 564 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 2: that I could potentially make a market. It's something I 565 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: could potentially flourish at. And so I went in to 566 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 2: become a fitness model and that was how I found 567 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: my Yes, it wasn't like I'm going to all of 568 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 2: a sudden become some high fashion model or hands model 569 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 2: or whatever, which I really want to be one day. 570 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: But my first client I went in. I remember going 571 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 2: into my it was my first casting, just got signed 572 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: to an agency, went into the agency. There were legit 573 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty models in this room, stunning people 574 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: like you walk in and I was super blonde at 575 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: the time. I had big blonde, curly atro and it 576 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: was under armour, and I remember sitting in this meeting 577 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 2: and I guess, again, it's like brandings. Some of the 578 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 2: things you think about you don't think about when branding 579 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 2: are so essential. I went into an area of fitness 580 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: that I knew that I could do well in. I 581 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: sat in that room and I said, what makes me 582 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 2: different than these people sitting here? Everyone's super nice most 583 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 2: of them. People are probably nervous. Everyone looked good, everyone's 584 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: a model. What's the outlier here? What is the one 585 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: thing they don't expect from models? And it was to 586 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 2: have a great personality. So I had sat there for 587 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: an hour and a half and I was like, I'm 588 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: going to go into this meeting and I'm going to 589 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 2: be human. I'm going to introduce myself and talk to 590 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: them like they're real people. That's gonna sit on the 591 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: other side of the table. And I remember walking into 592 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: my first casting and I was like, hey, everybody, how 593 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: are you? How are you doing today? And then I 594 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: kind of made a joke. I was like, I don't 595 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 2: know how you are handling looking at all these beautiful 596 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 2: people and making a decision, so like, God bless you, 597 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 2: and they started laughing. And it was that moment. And 598 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: I will later find out they became my longest client 599 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 2: I've ever had in my career. I probably worked for 600 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: under Armour for five six years, modeling with them, but 601 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 2: it helped me live in New York financially. And I 602 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: remember having a conversation maybe a year or two later 603 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: with those same women who hired me, and they said, 604 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: you were different. You walked in, you had a personality, 605 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 2: You looked at us like we were human, and that's 606 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 2: why we wanted to work with you. Everyone looked beautiful 607 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 2: and was fit the type we wanted to work with, 608 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 2: someone who was easy to work with and that we 609 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 2: did enjoy working with. 610 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of the time when people 611 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: walk in for some sort of interview that they're like 612 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: so scared, and it's hard to put that fear to 613 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: the side, and that can also then mask a little 614 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: bit of your personality. So to be so open and 615 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: just treating them like it's a normal conversation, that's nine 616 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: times out of ten again in your situation, especially going 617 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: to give you a leg up, which is critical. All right, 618 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: So we book under Armour, and then we book other things, 619 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: and now we're just modeling and dancing, and so we're dancing. 620 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: I was dancing for the nixt I got. I went 621 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: to a cast an audition five hundred girls. I wanted 622 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: to continue to dance, and while I was trained in 623 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: concert dance and it wasn't necessarily trained in like this 624 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: commercial world, I went into the audition and booked the 625 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: job and it was about twenty two women on the team. 626 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: Was amazing because I created friends once I was out 627 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: of college, created friends during college and out of college, 628 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: and lifelong friends from there. And then I was performing 629 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: at Madison Square Garden, one of the biggest stages in 630 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: the world, one of the best arenas in the world, 631 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: and that too afforded me an opportunity to do what 632 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 2: I love, continue to model because the games were at night. 633 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: Continue to model and shoot during the day and make 634 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: some money. So I found that that was a hybrid. 635 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: And during that time I would dance for Beyonce. I 636 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: dance with pit Bull, I danced with White Cleth. I 637 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: would pick up these odd jobs, commercial dancing, doing what 638 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: I loved. 639 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, what was it like to dance with Beyonce? 640 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: It was speechless, given that is how songs you write. 641 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: But I've never one of the things. I remember being 642 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 2: in a room with her, having a one on one 643 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: with her and the choreographer. Choreographer and watching Beyonce work 644 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 2: is unlike anything I've ever seen. She came in the 645 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: room in the morning at eight am and didn't leave. 646 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: This is by herself. She didn't leave the rehearsal space 647 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: and until like eleven o'clock at night rehearsing. And it 648 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: wasn't like we stopped for lunch. It wasn't she ate, 649 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 2: but it was like, oh, someone brought in food. She 650 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 2: ate and she got back and it was like quite 651 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: like she I've never seen someone so hard working in 652 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: a personal space that up close in my life. 653 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: It's really special, very special, and it's like when someone 654 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: you can see truly brings like makes their passion their purpose. 655 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: And I'm sure you can relate to that in so 656 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: many levels with what you're doing with the Love Squad. 657 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: But it's like when you see that in someone, you 658 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: see like the light in their eyes, and it's so 659 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: much different than someone that's just going through their day 660 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: to day an autopilot. 661 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: And I mean she allowed me in that space with 662 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 2: her as a young woman, Like as a young girl 663 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: trying to create my career. She could have been like, no, 664 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: I just need the choreographer. She was like, no. 665 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: Problem, Like Ali can come in. 666 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: It was just like she was human. It was that human, 667 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 2: approachable element of Beyonce that also gave me that wild 668 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: factor of her And that's something that I do try 669 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,719 Speaker 2: to remind it and how I navigate Love Squad, it's 670 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: that approachability. No matter how big we are, we need 671 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: women to sit on a stage and give you those 672 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 2: tools and concepts that you can and how to most important, 673 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: how to do some things so that we can help 674 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: other women and other people in general find their path 675 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: and continue to create their space. 676 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: I think, And that's a really important note to hit 677 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: on as well. It's like, how can I help build 678 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,239 Speaker 1: up other people, and how can I offer what I 679 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: know to enrich somebody else. It's never going to be 680 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: about oh well, if I offer this to someone, then 681 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: they might do X, Y Z. Well that you're looking 682 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: at it the wrong way. Then it's like, all right, 683 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm willing and ready to help someone else, not because 684 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm necessarily looking for anything in return or scared of 685 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: what they might do with that intel. I'm doing it 686 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: because I know that I have the opportunity to do so. 687 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: That's so powerful. 688 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 2: It's a gift, and it reminds me I'm going to 689 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: really bring like butcher this a little bit. But there's 690 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: like some parable in the Bible where like God gives 691 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: this guy some talents and he instead of using the talent, 692 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: he buries the talents. And it's when you bury the talent, 693 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 2: you have your talentless. And then he gives other talents 694 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: to another person, another guy, and he uses those talents 695 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: and from using those talents, he gain greater talents. So 696 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 2: his talents only multiply and he creates a life for himself. 697 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: And I think that that is the reality helping others, 698 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: the art of helping others. Is that a true art, 699 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 2: and the more you help others and get information out there, 700 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: the more your talents will increase. The more you know, 701 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: opportunity said, you get from that. 702 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: So let's talk about adding to the talent roster for 703 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: you then, because you're modeling and you're dancing with the 704 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: next and then when does fitness become an even bigger 705 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: part of your life. 706 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: It's the moment that everything gets hard. It was the 707 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: moment where, at this time, a part of what I 708 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: was doing, I kept my night job, not necessarily at CBS, 709 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 2: but I also did bottle waitressing in New York City. 710 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 2: I kept the night hustle. It continued, like outside of 711 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 2: modeling and then dancing for the Knicks, I was a 712 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: bottle waitress. I was able to kind of like stack 713 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: my paper and make sure I was living a comfortable 714 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 2: life to continue to pursue the things I loved. But 715 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 2: it came to a point in my life where you 716 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: can know longer, and I'm sure some people can identify 717 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,239 Speaker 2: that are listening. You get to a point in your 718 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: life and you're like, why am I doing this? And 719 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 2: you no longer have an answer, and if you don't, 720 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: you can't answer the questions of why and how when 721 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 2: it comes to what you're doing in life and who 722 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 2: you are, that's a moment you. 723 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: Got to stop. 724 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 2: So I had to make the decision where I stopped 725 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: dancing for the nixt I had to make the decision 726 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 2: where I stopped bottle waitressing. And it was a moment 727 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 2: where I wasn't doing anything. I was still modeling, but 728 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 2: as you know, modeling seasonal, so there were weeks where 729 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: I'd have one casting, some that i'd have none, you know. 730 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 2: So it was one of those moments where I had 731 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 2: a lot of time on my hands. I was confused 732 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: on what I wanted in life, who I was, And 733 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: there's a difference between being busy and being productive and 734 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: I knew that, and I had to take a moment 735 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 2: where I was saying, there's no longer, this isn't the 736 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 2: season to continue. 737 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: To be busy. I need to produce. 738 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 2: I need to be productive, and the only way to 739 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: do that is to sit still for a moment, be sad. 740 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 2: Struggle a little bit in terms of asking myself these 741 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: questions that were super answerless, and I didn't have the answer. 742 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 2: So I'm all about the how to. I got three 743 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 2: books around three people that I looked up to that 744 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 2: I ultimately wanted to model my career. After I read 745 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: their books, I read articles, I sat home a lot, 746 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: I looked up a lot of information. At that time, 747 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 2: podcasts were just coming in, but not to the extent 748 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 2: they are now. But I listened to a lot of speeches, 749 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 2: a lot of Ted talks, and I ended up getting 750 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 2: into yoga. I started praying a lot, and during this 751 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily meditate. I pray and doing my prayers, 752 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 2: I started wanting to move a little bit. So I 753 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 2: started going to hot yoga. And it was the time 754 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: of stillness, in the time of movement and finding that 755 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 2: stillness internally that I figured out, wait a minute, there's 756 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 2: something here. I love this. So I started running with 757 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 2: a friend and through running, I was just like, I 758 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 2: love moving my body in a different way. How can 759 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 2: I do this? And I was still hosting. I was 760 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 2: still putting myself out there. I was taking That was 761 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 2: when I started taking hosting classes. It was getting being 762 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: still that I was like, I want to do on 763 00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 2: camera work. I want to have a voice, I want 764 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 2: to I want to magnify, I want to be on 765 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 2: a bigger platform. And I created a reel that was 766 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 2: really janky and sent it to everyone. It was like, 767 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: I will host your kids' birthday parties. I will, and 768 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 2: this is all. These things would come to me while 769 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 2: I was doing yoga, while I was running, and I 770 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: was just like, I gotta do things for free to 771 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 2: get something for money. And I don't have this skill 772 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: set yet. I can practice all day, but doing it 773 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 2: for real is Doing it for real is experience. And 774 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 2: it was a friend who said, they're looking to Brooklyn. 775 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 2: Nets move to Brooklyn. You were just in the NBA. 776 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 2: You stopped dancing for the next you know how this works. 777 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,439 Speaker 2: They're looking to phill a spot because the girl that's 778 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: currently doing it their first season wants to change. And 779 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 2: she's like, I'm going to move your resume and reel 780 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 2: along to our senior vice president of entertainment. And I 781 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, go for it. Yeah sure, like I 782 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 2: could do that, absolutely terrified. She sent it along and 783 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 2: they called me in for a meeting and they were like, okay, great, 784 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 2: we want to offer you the job. And I was 785 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 2: like no, no, no, no, like I don't have any experience 786 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 2: and that They're like, yeah, it's okay. You know how 787 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 2: the NBA works, You've done your research, you have a 788 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,959 Speaker 2: great personality. Let's give it a go. So it's only 789 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 2: like half a season left, let's bring you in. And 790 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 2: I went from speaking to zero people to speaking to 791 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: eighteen thousand people at Barclay Center. And it was because, 792 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 2: and I really it was because four months of just 793 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 2: being by myself, of being productive, of getting the word out, 794 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 2: of figuring out answering those questions of what I want 795 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 2: to do, taking those hosting classes, finding the aha moment 796 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 2: after my first hosting class and saying like, oh, no, no, no, 797 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 2: this is it. This is what I meant, this is 798 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,919 Speaker 2: what I'm born to do. And I know it wasn't 799 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 2: the only thing, but it was one of those things 800 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 2: that I was like, I have to pursue this to 801 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 2: make sure. And I encourage anyone that in this moment 802 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 2: of just being busy. I'm not telling anyone to quit 803 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 2: their nine to five. You got to pay your bills. 804 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 2: What I am saying is taking moment to scale back 805 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 2: on going out, scale back on doing the odd jobs, 806 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 2: scale back on just doing things because you just said 807 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 2: yes and saying no to a lot of things and 808 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 2: saying no to yourself sitting home and finding that moment 809 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 2: of stillness or those moments of stillness, maybe through yoga, 810 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 2: maybe through fitness. And it was like fitness that brought 811 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 2: me to those moments of I know what I want 812 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 2: to do now. 813 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: First follow up question, what are the three books? 814 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 2: Oh? So it was Ryan Seacrest because I was like 815 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 2: Ryan Seacrest's host extraordinaire. Oh yeah, yeah, I read his book. 816 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 2: I read I always Padma lashed me book because she 817 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 2: was a TV host from a model, so Ryan was 818 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 2: a host. I wanted to be a host. Padima was 819 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 2: a model turned TV host. She did cooking more so 820 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 2: like food was her lane. And then of course Oprah 821 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 2: and I knew. I knew Obrah was in there, like 822 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 2: everyone should read everything about Oprah. And it was one 823 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 2: of those things where I was like, this is the 824 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 2: hybrid of everything that I want to do or want 825 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 2: to be. So and I remember my boyfriend, who is 826 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 2: very pivotal in my store. I always say, you have 827 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: to find an Andrew. There's this thing of like, I 828 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 2: don't know. I read a book and the chapter was 829 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 2: find your Andrew, and I was like, oh, I found mine. 830 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 2: But it was someone who changed that person's life. But 831 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 2: find your Andrew is truly a part of my story. 832 00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 2: Find that person that's going to give it to you real, 833 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 2: give it to your right and not back down. And 834 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 2: he's that person still in my life. And he was like, 835 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 2: you got to stop doing what you're doing. It's okay 836 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 2: not to make money right now. It's okay to not 837 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 2: have an answer when your friends say, so what are 838 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 2: you up to. It's okay to say nothing, that you're 839 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 2: figuring it out. 840 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:16,720 Speaker 1: It's okay. 841 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 2: So, yeah, I found my Andrew and that where he 842 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 2: was just like, this isn't the first You're not the 843 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 2: first person to be lost. Read a book on someone 844 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 2: who's doing what you want to do. 845 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: When did you guys meet? 846 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 2: We met? I think it was me when I first 847 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 2: started dancing for the Knicks. We met. We met in 848 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 2: a club. I get that because people are just like, 849 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 2: how did you meet? I stay in the club. Let 850 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 2: me keep it real. We met at a club, and 851 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 2: that's how funny enough, that's how my mom and dad met. 852 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: Really, yeah, I know you knew it was okay, it 853 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: was happy. 854 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we met in the club, and yeah, we've 855 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,240 Speaker 2: been slumming it ever since. 856 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: Okay, then the second follow up question is talk to 857 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: me about that feeling you got when you walked out 858 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: on the court for the first time, because I'm sure 859 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: with a microphone in your hand, it's very different than 860 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: when you were dancing with the next So dancing from 861 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 1: the next I was chop boss. 862 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 2: I was like, you walk out, you have the comfort 863 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 2: level of being with like sixteen other women. In my mind, 864 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 2: everyone's just in all of our minds, everyone's just watching us. 865 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 2: But like, if you miss the step, you can follow 866 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 2: someone else, but when you're on the court, when you're alone, 867 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 2: you're truly alone. I walked out, and honestly, it was 868 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 2: the worst ever. It was probably the worst hosting anyone 869 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 2: has ever done. But I remember having an earpiece in 870 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 2: and someone saying you're going in ten, You're going in 871 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 2: five and four. And I walked out on that court 872 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 2: and I was terrified, extremely scared, but I knew I 873 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 2: had to do it. And of course Andrew's advice. Right 874 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 2: before I went on, he had texted me, this is 875 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 2: the worst. I don't and this could be good or red. 876 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 2: It was great to hear this is the worst you're 877 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 2: ever going to do. That's okay, and I was like, Okay, 878 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,439 Speaker 2: this is going to suck. I'm going to be bad, 879 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 2: and that's okay because I'd never done it before. And 880 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 2: obviously the first time you do anything, it's your worst time. 881 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 2: Most times it's your worst time, and it can only 882 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 2: grow from there. And that's what you want, truly. You 883 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 2: want to come in doing anything average at best, so 884 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,919 Speaker 2: that your story is like I was the comeback kid. 885 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 2: I did okay. So I did absolutely terrible and I 886 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 2: was terrified and I was reading this paper. The paper 887 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 2: was covering my face. But my shoes were cute and 888 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 2: my outfit was nice and my hair was laid. So 889 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 2: I will say that made me feel better about the pictures, 890 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 2: not necessarily the video pictures looked great. 891 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: I looked fabulous doing that. 892 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 2: You gotta find the upside of it. My risks are 893 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 2: my wrists are pretty today? I don't know. 894 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: I mean this morning, I walked out of the house 895 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: and I opened my airpod's case and one of the 896 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 1: air pods was missing. And in my head, I was like, 897 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: it's been three years and I haven't lost an AirPod. 898 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: So I mean, let's find upside. Upside. Yeah, maybe it's 899 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,720 Speaker 1: time for me to pay my dues seventy nine dollars 900 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: single AirPod replacement fee. Googled that real quick. Okay, so 901 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: you're hosting, Yes, and things get better because they have to. 902 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 2: They do. 903 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: They have to. 904 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,320 Speaker 2: Things get better. I practice a skill, I fall in 905 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 2: love with it even more. The Brooklyn Nets couldn't give 906 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 2: them more of a shout out. Afforded me the comfort 907 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 2: without being breathing down my neck. In terms of every 908 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 2: time I'd come up the court, they were like, great job, 909 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 2: good job. 910 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: Like they build me up. 911 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,919 Speaker 2: They allowed me space to build my confidence and something 912 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,720 Speaker 2: that I had never done. And it was a unique 913 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 2: and it's still unique because I still do it to 914 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 2: this day. I'm one person in New York City that 915 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,280 Speaker 2: does that. I own a court, I own an arena. 916 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 2: I'm the only woman on that court. I walk out 917 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 2: with heels every single time, and I speak to the arena. 918 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 2: I do in game hits, live hits every time out 919 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 2: where the it's marketing plug, interviewing someone, interviewing a coach, 920 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 2: interviewing a player, interviewing a celebrity, or just doing a 921 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 2: fun game with some of the fans. That are happening. 922 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 2: That's happening, and it's just like it gave me experience 923 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 2: and it put me in positions to get jobs. People 924 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 2: are like, oh, allie does that here? Who's that girl? 925 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 2: Let me hire her for this or let's find out 926 00:41:59,040 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 2: more about her. 927 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: I offered your name to someone the other day who 928 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: asked me to do a hosting job that I couldn't do. 929 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 2: We'll talk about it, we'll talk about app Thanks for. 930 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,919 Speaker 1: The flub, but yeah, seriously, it's like it's the same thing, 931 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: like with podcasting or like with moderating panels, like you 932 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: do it once and someone's like, well, this person does 933 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: this thing, so maybe they can do this thing for 934 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: our thing that we need to do, you know, so 935 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: to your testament of do it once and get it again. 936 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you might have to do it for free, 937 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 2: and that's okay. 938 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember when I sat down with Gunnar Peterson. 939 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: He said he said, never do something for free, and 940 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 1: I said, I asked to him, well, what about when 941 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: someone asks that of you? He's like, well, then ask 942 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: yourself a beyond money, what are you gaining from this opportunity? 943 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 1: Because it's not always like someone's going to hand you 944 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: a stack of hundo's and be like thank you. 945 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 2: So much. 946 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 1: But who do you get to meet from this opportunity? 947 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: What do you get to do? Like, what do you gain? 948 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: What do you learn? Think about it that way before 949 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 1: you think all money. 950 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 2: And that's exactly That's exactly how I weigh options to 951 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 2: this day. When I mentioned earlier about making a decision. 952 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 2: In making decisions, the upside is either a capital gain 953 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 2: where you're saying, like, I'm going to make some income 954 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 2: from this, this is justifiable, or it's a platform game 955 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,760 Speaker 2: where it's like I'm going to get exposure to new people, 956 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 2: I'm going to get to practice my craft, I'm going 957 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 2: to get more experience. I'm gonna like You're able to 958 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 2: leverage this in two ways financial gain or platform gain gain, 959 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 2: and that is really important. So nothing is necessarily free 960 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 2: because you're getting that platform. 961 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: Taking a quick break from today's episode to give Athletic 962 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: Greens some love, guys, let me tell you yesterday I 963 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: went downtown to visit a girlfriend at her apartment, and 964 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: I realized on my way that I was feeling a 965 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: little bit off, and that was because I had completely 966 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 1: forgotten to shake up my Athletic Greens. I walked in 967 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,439 Speaker 1: knowing she's a fan and it was the first thing 968 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: I asked her for after giving her a big hug. 969 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: I mean it when I say that I notice a difference. 970 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: I feel different when I don't shake it up in 971 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: the morning, not only because I know that it's giving 972 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 1: me all of those important vitamins and minerals, but it's 973 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: also got prebiotics, probiotics, gens, superfoods, It's got all the 974 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: things to just make me feel ready to handle whatever 975 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: the day grows my way. They are offering Kurdle listeners 976 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: a really awesome deal. 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What ends up happening first 985 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 2: was I started getting into the Instagram game and was like, 986 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 2: you know what, I want to continue to brand myself 987 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 2: as fitness model and I would I remember doing a 988 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 2: shoot doing some Adidas, wearing some Adidas. I was like, 989 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 2: I want to play the angle of Adidas. I've never 990 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 2: worked with them and any of my modeling jobs, and 991 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 2: I'd like to get in with them. So I got 992 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,320 Speaker 2: a guy to take some photos of me and Adidas 993 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 2: posted them. Adidas reached out and they had it. Kind 994 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,879 Speaker 2: of was a trifecta. At this point, Adidas reached out 995 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 2: in terms of we want to you to build some content. 996 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 2: I had created love Squad in order to be a 997 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 2: great host. As I mentioned, I wanted to make sure 998 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 2: that I was expanding my vocabulary and gaining writing skills. 999 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,800 Speaker 2: So I started writing about fitness, writing about my yoga sessions, 1000 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 2: writing about running, writing about you know, doing waking up early, 1001 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 2: getting these things done, being a boss at that moment 1002 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 2: or in that time. And it was then that they 1003 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 2: hired me for a campaign their offices in Germany. At 1004 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 2: that point, I wanted looked for an host in New 1005 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 2: York City, a woman, and they hired me for a 1006 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 2: soccer event to host, and then on top of that, 1007 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 2: they reached out for me to do some content. They 1008 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 2: started out what I was doing on lovesquad Dot com 1009 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 2: asked me to do content for Adidas, and so I 1010 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 2: started creating content for them. So it was one of 1011 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 2: those things where I shot their campaign in Miami. Shortly after, 1012 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 2: I created some content for their California team and hosted 1013 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 2: an event for their Germany team in New York, and 1014 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 2: we had that conversation of like, we want you to 1015 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 2: be an ambassador, a global ambassador for us. It all 1016 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 2: ended up working out where I was the perfect one 1017 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 2: of the perfect persons to represent the brand globally. And 1018 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 2: it was from there that I met Robin Arzan and 1019 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 2: I became fast friends, very close friends to this day. 1020 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 2: And she saw what I was doing with Love Squad 1021 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 2: and I was hosting co hosting an Adidas event in 1022 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 2: the Hamptons, and I had invited her. She was on 1023 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 2: the list of like invites because we each ambassador, she 1024 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,359 Speaker 2: was a global ambassador at the time, will get these 1025 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,359 Speaker 2: one off events, and so she was like sitting next 1026 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 2: to me on dinner and she was just like, you 1027 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 2: have to do peloton and I was like, oh, nope, 1028 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 2: I'm good girl. I'm gonna take these shots and dance 1029 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,240 Speaker 2: like we were having like a party at that point, 1030 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:44,879 Speaker 2: and she was like no, no, no, no. What you're 1031 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 2: doing with Love Squad and how you're empowering the community, 1032 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 2: and how you are athletic in terms of you run, 1033 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,280 Speaker 2: you can host, you have on camera skills, you're athletic, 1034 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 2: and you're empowering the community. People need to hear about 1035 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 2: Love Squad and what you're doing, and Peloton's a platform 1036 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 2: for that. And I was like, I'm good, don't want 1037 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 2: to cycle. Sincerely, thank you, but no, thank you. And 1038 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 2: of course, if anyone knows Robin, she doesn't really take 1039 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 2: no for an answer. Very get back to New York 1040 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 2: going into one of uh I was fit modeling at 1041 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 2: the time for Victoria's Secret, going to my job and 1042 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 2: I get a text from someone at Peloton was like, great, 1043 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 2: we have you for an audition. We have you set 1044 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 2: up for an audition like next week. We want to 1045 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,959 Speaker 2: meet you before and I was like, wow, thanks Rob, 1046 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 2: thanks thanks my girl. 1047 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 1: That no did not really happen. 1048 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 2: So I was like, you know what, why not? 1049 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: I know that? 1050 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 2: I know in life you get your career, or of 1051 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 2: finding out what you want to do in life comes 1052 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 2: through two ways. Either you know it since you're born, 1053 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 2: and no one can deviate, No one you don't deviate 1054 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 2: from that plan or someone tells you what you're good 1055 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 2: at and what you should be doing. And so I 1056 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 2: trusted the instinct and I trusted her and more so 1057 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 2: and said, you know what, she's my friend. 1058 00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 1: I do trust her. 1059 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 2: And I went in for the meeting, went in for 1060 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 2: the audition, got on that bike. Was not a cyclist, 1061 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 2: was not a fitness instructor. Now mind you. I was 1062 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 2: running and taking some fun yoga hot yoga class looms 1063 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 2: and that was it. And of course I took dance, 1064 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 2: and I was a dancer. Was not teaching anyone anything, 1065 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 2: and nor did I want to. But I got on 1066 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 2: that bike, and I realized in that moment or shortly 1067 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 2: after that moment, there were four cameras, there was a 1068 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 2: producer downstairs. It was live, It was broadcasted to thousands 1069 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,879 Speaker 2: of people at that time. And I was like, wait 1070 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 2: a minute, you're telling me I can empower, I can 1071 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 2: work out, and I can do things where their cameras involved. 1072 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: That's such a mod option. 1073 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 2: Yes, And I ended up realizing the opportunity set and 1074 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 2: what they were offering, and I said yes to it, 1075 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 2: and I was like, Okay, I need an assistant now 1076 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 2: because I'm not giving up anything. I'm doing Love Squad, 1077 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 2: I'm hosting for the NETS, I'm keeping Peloton, and I'm 1078 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,839 Speaker 2: going to be a Didas Global Ambassador continuously. And that's 1079 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 2: kind of how it all came together. One of the 1080 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 2: things I will say before your next question is I 1081 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 2: get this often. What do all those things have in common? 1082 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,759 Speaker 2: One of the things that I've always wanted to do 1083 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 2: was be in the Lime Live, hence being a dancer. 1084 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with them, any of that. If that, 1085 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 2: if you are that person, own it. I'm always want 1086 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 2: to be front and center. 1087 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: I love on camera work. 1088 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 2: I love being in front of the camera, and I 1089 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 2: love speaking every one of those things, whether it's an 1090 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 2: Adidas Global Ambassador, I moderate panels, I'm in campaigns, I'm 1091 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 2: talking about my story of how fitness has influenced and 1092 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 2: changed me. Peloton instructor, I'm empowering real time through fitness. 1093 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 1: While you're on the bike. 1094 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 2: I get to say the things that are really truly 1095 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 2: inspirational to thousands of people. Nets live on camera that 1096 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 2: eighteen thousand people. You can't take that back. Love Squad 1097 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 2: panel discussions around in empowerment building businesses, things giving offering, 1098 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 2: how to's, all of those things. Have those things in 1099 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 2: common live on camera encouragement. 1100 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: I love it. Where do you gain your inspiration from 1101 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 1: When you're inspiring so many other people, It's really. 1102 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 2: Important that you listen to other people's journeys so you 1103 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,760 Speaker 2: cannot This is why I say, sit down with people, 1104 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 2: ask them, not only ask them for help, but ask them. 1105 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 1: What you can do for them. 1106 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,359 Speaker 2: So whenever you're feeling in those moments of feedback, when 1107 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 2: I have those bi annual feedback sessions that I have 1108 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 2: with internal and externally personally and professionally, I sit down 1109 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 2: with those people and I learn about their stories, I 1110 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 2: ask them for advice, I take their advice, and then 1111 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 2: I'm truly inspired by them. And so in those times 1112 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 2: where it gets tough, I'm overwhelmed, I'm ran down, I'm tired, 1113 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 2: I remember those words of Wisdoms, just like you quote it. 1114 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 2: You quote someone that has truly. 1115 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: Touched you because they've afforded you time. 1116 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 2: And that's really important. So when I think of how 1117 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 2: I'm inspired, I do listen to a lot of podcasts. 1118 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 2: I do listen to a lot of sermons. So Stephen 1119 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 2: Ferdick is a pastor of Elevation Church. And I would say, 1120 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 2: at this point in my life, he has been Outside 1121 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 2: of Andrew, my boyfriend, has been the most influential voice. 1122 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:03,800 Speaker 2: And he doesn't know this influential voice in my head 1123 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 2: when it comes to inspiring people, he. 1124 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 1: Gets it. 1125 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 2: He gets it. He's truly blessed by God. He gets it. 1126 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 2: And whenever I'm down, whenever I'm up, I listen to him. 1127 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 2: He reminds me of what God has done for me. 1128 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 2: He reminds me of what God is doing, how God 1129 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 2: is moving in my life. And one of the things 1130 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 2: I learned is it's not always how do you say 1131 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:31,240 Speaker 2: fun or welcoming to maybe talk about religion or spirituality. 1132 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,359 Speaker 2: But I think it's my lot in life is that 1133 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,240 Speaker 2: we get so caught up in what. 1134 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,280 Speaker 1: Someone should look like, or what a religious. 1135 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 2: Person might sound like, or I mean, what someone with 1136 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 2: curly hair acts like, or what a black person should 1137 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 2: do or what a white We get so caught up 1138 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 2: in these stereotypes, and it's important that we break those 1139 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 2: stereotypes down. And so, yeah, I'm religious, and yeah I 1140 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 2: believe in God, and some of the things that we 1141 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 2: hear aren't truly what it looks like to be a 1142 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 2: religious person. 1143 00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 1: Those are just Takemas, those are just Sarah types. 1144 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 2: So I think that it's important that I that's a 1145 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,839 Speaker 2: part of my journey and a part of my conversation 1146 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,799 Speaker 2: because yeah, I think we get caught up in what 1147 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 2: these people look like or what they believe and how 1148 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 2: they hate us or hate that, Like that's not who 1149 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 2: I am. I'm inclusive. 1150 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 1: I mean parallel that to the social media life, like 1151 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean the highlight reel that is Instagram, Facebook, whatever, 1152 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 1: wherever you're consuming that kind of content. It's you see 1153 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 1: that and it's like, this is how I should be 1154 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,840 Speaker 1: or how I should act, or what I should do, 1155 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 1: Like if I'm not doing this much running or if 1156 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 1: I'm not doing this much whatever it is, then you 1157 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 1: have this inferiority complex that you're messing something up. But 1158 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,359 Speaker 1: the beauty is is that you get to define every 1159 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 1: day who it is that you are, and by offering 1160 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 1: your authentic self to the world, like there's only one you. 1161 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: So then what like if you're trying if you're spending 1162 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 1: all your time trying to be somebody else or trying 1163 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 1: to fit some type of mold that you're perceiving from 1164 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 1: somebody else, like you're wasting your time and also. 1165 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 2: Getting caught up and being nervous to be who you are, 1166 00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 2: because I know I did deal with the fear of 1167 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 2: like should I tell people that I believe in God? 1168 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 2: Did I even say Jesus is the name to it? 1169 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 2: And it's like, at the end of the day, people 1170 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 2: are going to love me, and some people aren't gonna 1171 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 2: love me, and they're gonna love me whether I am 1172 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 2: myself or not. It's just that that's just the nature 1173 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,479 Speaker 2: of life. And I truly encourage anyone who's listening own 1174 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,759 Speaker 2: all areas of you. I'm not saying I'm perfect. I'm 1175 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 2: not saying I will ever be, because I subscribe to 1176 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 2: being real beyond being perfect. I'm not saying I'm the 1177 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 2: perfect this, or that I'm not the perfect peloton instructor 1178 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 2: just like I'm not the perfect like Christian, Like I'm 1179 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,320 Speaker 2: not any the perfect anything. I'm not the perfect girlfriend. 1180 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 2: Like however, I'm okay with being basic sometimes i am 1181 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 2: and I'm okay with bossing up and other times. And 1182 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 2: I think that if you're ever struggling with not only 1183 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 2: just what it should look like, but struggling with exposing 1184 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,919 Speaker 2: who you are completely. I really encourage you to think 1185 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 2: about it and. 1186 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: Do it. 1187 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 2: Take a risk on yourself, because no one else is. 1188 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,759 Speaker 1: I think also, it's like that important saying that says, 1189 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,400 Speaker 1: if you try to be a leader or a person 1190 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 1: for everyone, then you're a leader or a person for 1191 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: no no one, for no one, not at all. Noll boy. Now, okay, 1192 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,959 Speaker 1: So how do you then, when you're taking so much 1193 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 1: time to give back to your partner, to peloton, to 1194 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 1: the hosting, to everything you're constantly giving and giving and giving, 1195 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 1: how do you give back to you? What do you 1196 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 1: do for you? Oh? 1197 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 2: I'm glad you didn't ask me. What's self care? 1198 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 1: What do you just do something for you? Yeah? 1199 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 2: What do I do for me? I think all of 1200 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 2: those things are pretty selfish. I'm gonna be honest, I'm 1201 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 2: gonna be super real and transparent. I think that everything 1202 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 2: that I do is selfish, and I'm okay with admitting that. 1203 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 2: I just talk about being your whole self. I think 1204 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,839 Speaker 2: when you can admit who you are and what you're 1205 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,440 Speaker 2: doing and why you're doing it, you get yourself to 1206 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 2: People love you more in terms of they feel safe. 1207 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,279 Speaker 2: They love you more because they feel safe with you 1208 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,799 Speaker 2: because they're like, she's not hiding, she's not living in 1209 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 2: this like false reality. So for me, all of those 1210 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 2: things are for me. I do these things because I 1211 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 2: love them. They feed me. They are a part of 1212 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,760 Speaker 2: who I am since I was a kid. They afford 1213 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,399 Speaker 2: me the best opportunity set to bring a family into 1214 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,759 Speaker 2: this world to live a comfortable life. I'm truly going 1215 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,359 Speaker 2: to be honest in that, and I think, so when 1216 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 2: I think of it, what am I doing for me? 1217 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 2: I'm doing those things for me. I'm doing those things 1218 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,399 Speaker 2: because if I didn't do those things, I'd be doing 1219 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:17,879 Speaker 2: things that were for everyone else. 1220 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 1: And right now, when you're on the biker obviously on Instagram, 1221 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 1: you have a great following there. When you take a 1222 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: second and step back, the people that follow you, they 1223 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,839 Speaker 1: see who you are from that lens. They see this 1224 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,399 Speaker 1: business woman and a Peloton instructor and a Brooklyn Net's 1225 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 1: host and all the things. But when you look in 1226 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,280 Speaker 1: the mirror, what is it that you see? 1227 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,320 Speaker 2: I see a woman who's ready to change the world. 1228 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 2: And I don't have all the answers on how to 1229 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 2: do that, but I know one of the things that 1230 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,840 Speaker 2: I speak about is bossing up, creating a standard, establishing 1231 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 2: a tone. You can walk in any room and change 1232 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 2: a tone, whether for good or for bad. You can 1233 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,799 Speaker 2: create a standard. No need to worry about the rules 1234 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 2: when you're setting standards. And it's one of those things 1235 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,400 Speaker 2: where I truly subscribe to that. Personally, I truly believe 1236 00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 2: in the good, the bad, the unknown about myself, listening 1237 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,480 Speaker 2: to feedback from people implementing those things. But when I 1238 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,840 Speaker 2: look in the mirror, I do see myself as a 1239 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,759 Speaker 2: game changer. I do see myself as someone who is 1240 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,399 Speaker 2: going to blaze a trail of redefining and recreating what 1241 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 2: an entrepreneur looks like, what a woman of this century 1242 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 2: looks like, and what it means to really inspire the 1243 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 2: next generation. Again, not don't have all the answers, but 1244 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 2: that's what that's who I see myself as when I 1245 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,880 Speaker 2: look in the mirror. Not easy comes with a lot 1246 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 2: of responsibility, But I. 1247 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 1: Don't choose easy. 1248 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:32,399 Speaker 2: So good. 1249 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,560 Speaker 1: On the days where you wake up and maybe you've 1250 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,360 Speaker 1: gotten like a no or someone has like really knocked 1251 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 1: you down, what do you do or what have you 1252 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 1: changed to be able to still see that person in 1253 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,719 Speaker 1: the mirror, Because I think That's what a lot of 1254 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,239 Speaker 1: people struggle with, right, It's like what one rejection, that 1255 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,240 Speaker 1: one problem, that one person that makes them feel lesser 1256 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,399 Speaker 1: than or without? What do you tell that person who 1257 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 1: feels without at that moment? 1258 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,760 Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's not always like cotton, Kenny Drummond, whatever 1259 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 2: is it? Cotton, candy, rain, drafts and doughnuts. 1260 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 1: In my life, on. 1261 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 2: Those moments that I am sad and that when I 1262 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,360 Speaker 2: do look in the mirror and I can't find that girl, 1263 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,360 Speaker 2: I can't find that woman, I can't find that person, 1264 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 2: I allow myself to just be. I know that sounds 1265 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 2: so crazy, but I always say, feel all the feels. 1266 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 1: So if you want to cry, cry and I do cry. 1267 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 2: I cry a lot. Actually I don't cry because I'm 1268 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 2: always sad, but I cry because I need to get 1269 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 2: it out. I don't want to hold it in. I 1270 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 2: don't want to like pretend. That's also a form of pretending. 1271 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 2: Like if I keep practicing this and preaching like be 1272 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 2: your full self, like be who you are, it's like 1273 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 2: I have to be that person too. And some days 1274 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 2: when I feel lost and I definitely want to give up, 1275 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 2: a lot of times I feel that way. I get 1276 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 2: into that mood and allow myself to feel that way. 1277 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 2: And I also reach out to friends, like I need 1278 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,440 Speaker 2: to vent. I'll send a voice note quick to somebody 1279 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 2: like here's a vent, here's a rant. Feel free to 1280 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 2: turn it off at any but I need to get 1281 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 2: this out. Obviously someone that I feel safe with or 1282 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 2: that I built a relationship with. But I I tell 1283 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 2: anyone around me feel all the feels, Yeah, allow yourself. 1284 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 1: You can't. 1285 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 2: The worst advice is when someone says you should just 1286 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 2: feel confident, you should. 1287 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,000 Speaker 1: Just be this. I'm like, if I could be, if 1288 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 1: I could feel that, I would. 1289 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 2: So it's like I can't push myself to a point 1290 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,920 Speaker 2: to feel something or be something that I'm not ready 1291 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 2: to feel or be. So sometimes, yeah, I'm going to 1292 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 2: get out of the slump. Maybe in a day. Sometimes 1293 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 2: it's gonna take me a month. Sometimes I'm gonna sometimes. 1294 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 2: I mean this year, earlier, this year I dealt with 1295 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 2: it was month of February, six weeks, I would say, 1296 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 2: February to March anxiety AF I could not get myself together. 1297 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 2: Imagine running a business having two women, like two employees, 1298 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,560 Speaker 2: So what should we be doing? I'm like, honestly, I 1299 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,960 Speaker 2: can't even answer. I don't know. I didn't brush my 1300 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,400 Speaker 2: teeth today. I can't roll out of bed right now, 1301 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 2: like and then have to do that where yeah, I 1302 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 2: do push through when it's on peloton, but even in that, 1303 00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 2: when I'm on that bike, I'm like, anybody in this 1304 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 2: room stuff right now, please put your HANDU because I'm 1305 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 2: gonna raise my hand. 1306 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 1: I want you to know that. 1307 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 2: And there's it breaks down that wall. Let's be real 1308 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 2: about it. I don't have the again, I don't have 1309 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 2: the answer. Is there gonna be days I feel strong 1310 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 2: and powerful, and there's gonna be days where I'm just like, okay, 1311 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 2: you are strong and powerful, just not right now, you 1312 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 2: don't feel that way. So I encourage myself to feel 1313 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 2: the feels. I don't push myself to be something or 1314 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 2: to feel something that I don't. And I do get 1315 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 2: a little antsy when I do have those bouts of 1316 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 2: like anxiety or mild depression or sadness, I do get 1317 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 2: a little antsie like, and I do tell myself, I'm like, 1318 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,360 Speaker 2: well that when you get on Instagram, you're like, well, 1319 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 2: that person's always doing well, and this person has everything 1320 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 2: going for them and they're so skinny and pretty and 1321 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 2: their hair is gray and they know all the right 1322 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 2: things to say. And then I like stop. And one 1323 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 2: of the things you said earlier, you were. 1324 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 1: Like, you should do this. I get in my head 1325 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 1: you should do this, you should do this. 1326 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 2: And I always tell myself stop shouting on yourself, girl, stop. 1327 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 1: Stop it, stop it. 1328 00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's not I don't again, don't have the 1329 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 2: answer for it. It's not a pretty like read this 1330 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 2: book and you're going to say this, say this mantra 1331 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 2: and you're gonna be fine. Look in the mirror and 1332 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 2: spend around three times. Don't have the answer. But what 1333 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 2: I do allow myself to do is take the time 1334 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 2: that I need to be in the place that I 1335 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 2: need to be at that point. 1336 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 1: And you mentioned the worst piece of advice. But when 1337 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,400 Speaker 1: you look back on your career so far in this 1338 01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 1: like mini empire, let's call it, let's call it an 1339 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 1: empire empire that you are building, what would you say 1340 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 1: has been one of the best pieces of advice that 1341 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 1: someone has offered. 1342 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 2: You so many Oh my gosh, I could I think 1343 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 2: that one of the things I remind myself and I 1344 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 2: guess I'm having like a brain free zone on like 1345 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 2: the best advice that I have ever gotten, because I 1346 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 2: I feel like I've getten gotten so many great things. 1347 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 2: But one of the things I do remind myself of 1348 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 2: is that most times, no one knows what they're doing. Yeah, 1349 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 2: that makes me feel better about it. In a room 1350 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 2: where decisions or conversations are being had, no one knows 1351 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,400 Speaker 2: what they're doing. Running a business, no one knows really 1352 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:02,200 Speaker 2: what they're doing title sweet sea sweet people c sweet level. 1353 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 2: They don't know what they're doing, Like even the most 1354 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 2: expert of them of all don't always know what they're doing. 1355 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 2: So it makes me feel good that I don't have 1356 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 2: to know what I'm doing. 1357 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 1: And someone had to be the first to set the 1358 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 1: president anyway, right. I hate just this idea that like, well, 1359 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 1: this is the industry standard for this, or this is 1360 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 1: how much someone should be paying you to do X 1361 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 1: or Z, or this is how you should act in 1362 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 1: this situation. Like No, so many times I'm just like, well, 1363 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 1: this is where I'm at. So if you want to 1364 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,360 Speaker 1: work together, if you want to do this, if you 1365 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 1: want X or Z, this is where I'm coming from. 1366 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,080 Speaker 1: So we can either meet there or meet in the middle. 1367 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 1: But if you don't want to like take my fork 1368 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 1: in the road, then like take yours and find somebody else. 1369 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think that's I think that's a 1370 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 2: great approach. I also think like in that moment of 1371 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 2: just realizing that no one knows what they're doing, it's 1372 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:55,240 Speaker 2: really important that you articulate why. So one of the 1373 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 2: things that I realized, like going to a lot of conferences, 1374 01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 2: speaking on a lot of panels and building a business, 1375 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:01,959 Speaker 2: is people do it and they always say, oh, because 1376 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 2: I love it. It's not a reason, it's not the 1377 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 2: reason why. The reason why is deeper than that. You 1378 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,920 Speaker 2: can love a lot of things. So I think that 1379 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 2: when you're asking yes for more money, set in precedents. 1380 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 2: When you are when you realize that no one has 1381 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 2: the answers, if you're able to aubum solve, offer a 1382 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 2: solve and say that this is what you think should 1383 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 2: be happening, you need to articulate why, and you don't 1384 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 2: have to have that answer right away. 1385 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,480 Speaker 1: What is it that you're not doing right now that 1386 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:30,959 Speaker 1: you want to do? 1387 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 2: So I'm not running for president. I'm so sorry everyone 1388 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 2: not just vote love twenty twenty. Throwing my hat in 1389 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 2: a ring now oh, I came on your podcast to 1390 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:43,880 Speaker 2: announce my presidency. 1391 01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:48,280 Speaker 1: You imagine that Hurdle is now a platform that's national news. 1392 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,960 Speaker 2: That would be awesome. So there's so many things and 1393 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,080 Speaker 2: I have to I really do have to reul myself 1394 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,960 Speaker 2: in sometimes. I got to like wrangle my my imagination 1395 01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,640 Speaker 2: in sometimes. One of the things that I really want 1396 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,080 Speaker 2: to do is I do want to write a book. 1397 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 2: So I have started, but again, asking myself the why 1398 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,320 Speaker 2: is really important, so I know that I want to 1399 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,880 Speaker 2: do this. So I have started the process and it's 1400 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 2: going well, and there's interest and it's awesome, and it's 1401 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,960 Speaker 2: helping me to refine what I believe and I'm articulating 1402 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,560 Speaker 2: it better. So it is helping, but I don't know 1403 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 2: exactly why I'm doing it just yet outside of oh 1404 01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,600 Speaker 2: I love it and I could help people. There has 1405 01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,439 Speaker 2: to be a deeper why. So I am doing that 1406 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,760 Speaker 2: and again still working out the why. So when it 1407 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 2: is or if it does get published, there's a story 1408 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 2: of like, here's. 1409 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 1: Why I really did this. Yeah. 1410 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,400 Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many things that I really want 1411 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,440 Speaker 2: to do at this point. Yes, I want to have 1412 01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,640 Speaker 2: a podcast. I'm working on that, but it's like a 1413 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,480 Speaker 2: mini mini podcast, nothing like really amazing that you're doing. 1414 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,040 Speaker 2: So congratulations, by the way, I heard all this is exceptional. 1415 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. 1416 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:53,480 Speaker 1: Oh thank you. 1417 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,320 Speaker 2: I should have said that sooner. So we just started up, 1418 01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 2: like we'll just start all over right now. 1419 01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:58,920 Speaker 1: Yes, that's how. 1420 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,040 Speaker 2: So I do want to do book and podcast, but 1421 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,520 Speaker 2: I think right now my focus is I'm in that 1422 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,240 Speaker 2: feedback session that I talk about. I'm in that stage 1423 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 2: of getting advice taking my brand to another level personally, 1424 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 2: professionally and with love squad. So I've been in this 1425 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,760 Speaker 2: feedback session where I'm asking people for advice and how 1426 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 2: do you see me? How do you see my brand? 1427 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,760 Speaker 2: What am I doing? What am I not doing? Because 1428 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to that yet. Outside of yes, 1429 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 2: everyone wants a book, everyone wants a podcast, and not 1430 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,720 Speaker 2: that saying everyone shouldn't get what they want. I just 1431 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,240 Speaker 2: got to be able to answer the why a little 1432 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 2: bit more. In order to do that, I need more 1433 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,200 Speaker 2: information than I outside of my own head. 1434 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,360 Speaker 1: It's really special that you understand the value of asking 1435 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:41,840 Speaker 1: for that. That really special. Okay, So the last question 1436 01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 1: I ask on the pod every time, if you had 1437 01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 1: the opportunity right now to offer the alli post accident, 1438 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,480 Speaker 1: in that Hurtle moment, a little piece of advice when 1439 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 1: she's going through that tough time. Looking back on it now, 1440 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 1: something maybe you wish you knew then, or maybe you 1441 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,320 Speaker 1: know as the years have gone on, you offer her 1442 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:05,000 Speaker 1: something when she's going through those tough times. What do 1443 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,640 Speaker 1: you tell her? 1444 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 2: This might sound. I don't even want to judge how 1445 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 2: it's going to sound. I wouldn't tell her anything because 1446 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 2: her mindset was way better off than sometimes my man 1447 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 2: said is right now, knowing all the things I know, 1448 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,560 Speaker 2: I think sometimes we get into this thing of like 1449 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:31,400 Speaker 2: we should have done this sooner or faster. And Homegirl 1450 01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 2: at nine years old, like, I don't know who that 1451 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,720 Speaker 2: was sometimes and I know that was me, but she 1452 01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 2: was boss. And I say that because she was fearless, 1453 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:48,880 Speaker 2: She relied on her own intuition, she trusted herselves, her ability, 1454 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,320 Speaker 2: and it really has carried me to the point that 1455 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 2: I am now. So I wouldn't mess not necessarily mess 1456 01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,200 Speaker 2: that up. I wouldn't tamper with that. And I think 1457 01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,520 Speaker 2: that I try to get back to that space a lot. 1458 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 2: I don't I'm not always successful, but there are moments 1459 01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 2: that I am I get back to that trusting my gut, 1460 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:14,800 Speaker 2: trusting that that inner boss, trusting that fearlessness, that without consequences, 1461 01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 2: I'm going forward mentality that most times youth the youth 1462 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,240 Speaker 2: possess and I think I possessed at nine years old, 1463 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,240 Speaker 2: and I wouldn't I wouldn't tell her anything. 1464 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,920 Speaker 1: Your story is really special, Ali, Oh thanks, thanks so 1465 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,280 Speaker 1: much for having to hang out with me. 1466 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,560 Speaker 2: Oh my god, thank you for thanks for working this out, 1467 01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 2: because schedule is great, and thanks for having me. I 1468 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,000 Speaker 2: truly appreciate it, of course. 1469 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,560 Speaker 1: And please take a moment and leave a quick review 1470 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,440 Speaker 1: by clicking the link or the description to this episode. 1471 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,840 Speaker 1: We all face multiple hurdles in life. I want to 1472 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,160 Speaker 1: hear about yours. Reach Out to me at Emily at 1473 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 1: Hurdle dot us. Connect with the podcast on Instagram and 1474 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,120 Speaker 1: Twitter at Hurdle Podcast. Ali. Where do they find you? 1475 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,400 Speaker 1: How do they keep up with you? Give me all 1476 01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:57,480 Speaker 1: of the details. 1477 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 2: I am Ali, miss Love and I ss Ali Love 1478 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 2: on Instagram, Follow love Squad at love Squad, Same on 1479 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,560 Speaker 2: Twitter and of course same at my website alilove dot 1480 01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,880 Speaker 2: com and lovespod dot com. And on the bike and 1481 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,480 Speaker 2: on the bike, Oh, Ali mislove. 1482 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,200 Speaker 1: If you are a Peloton rider, follow me. 1483 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,840 Speaker 2: If you're not, please download the app at this moment 1484 01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,800 Speaker 2: and really enjoy. If you don't enjoy me, I have 1485 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 2: so many colleagues that are exceptional that I stand shoulder 1486 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 2: to show with, and I'm proud to represent the Peloton family. 1487 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure if they've gotten to this point in 1488 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,880 Speaker 1: the episode, and they must like you just a little bit, oh, 1489 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:34,040 Speaker 1: just a little another hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.