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Speaker 2: Easy to see why these apples didn't want to get

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Speaker 1: In true cowboy fashion, Vicenta Fernandez calls his son Los

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Speaker 1: Potrios the three Cults, and when he was just five

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Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy six, Cent brought Alejandro to a special

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Speaker 1: Little ali Is saying in front of an audience for

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Speaker 1: It was clear that the littlest Potrio had inherited his

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Speaker 3: Like, I do not blame him.

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Speaker 1: Lucky for little Tent that was there to run on

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Speaker 2: I'd bet my presentation would have gone fine if I

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Speaker 1: Like that one thousand percent. And you know what, Joseph,

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Speaker 1: your scars are what make you you? Anyway, Tent was

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Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty, Bernandez bought over one thousand acres of

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Speaker 1: land in Guadalajara and established Rancho Lostres Portrios, a sprawling

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Speaker 2: Y'all, graceland achiz on this place. It's got its own

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Speaker 2: rodeo arena for international contests. A guitar shaped swimming pool,

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Speaker 1: Wait, is this available to rent on Airbnb? We are

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Speaker 1: going we should look, I'm looking right now?

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Speaker 3: Hold please just kidding.

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Speaker 1: Plus, in addition to all of that, there are stables

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Speaker 2: But it was about to get real crowded back at

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Speaker 1: Because outside the ranch, Vicente Fernandez was.

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Speaker 3: How can I put this?

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Speaker 1: Staying busy, I'm your host, Lilianabosquez.

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Speaker 3: And I'm Joseph Carrio and this is Becoming an Icon a.

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Speaker 1: Weekly podcast where we give you the rundown on how

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Speaker 1: today's most famous latinv stars have shaped pop culture.

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Speaker 3: And given the world some extra level.

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Speaker 1: Sit back and get comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Because we are going in the only way we know how,

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Speaker 2: with buenos vida, a.

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Speaker 1: Buenas risas and a lot of opinions as we relive

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Speaker 1: their greatest achievements on our journey to find out what

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Speaker 1: makes them so iconic. In nineteen seventy six, we sent

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Speaker 1: pe Fernandez was invited to perform at the twenty fourth

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Speaker 1: that Patrisa Rivera, a young woman from Guawila, shout at Guahila,

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Speaker 2: And it was at this pageant that Chene introduced himself

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Speaker 1: This movie was an action western starring Fernandez as a

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Speaker 2: An affair that started the very same year that little

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Speaker 2: Portrio Alejandro saying on Sian Brendomingo, I got to point

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Speaker 1: Yes, we stay very clean with the facts. Here we

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Speaker 1: said that Fernandez's friend Felippe Ariaga supported their relationship by

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Speaker 3: Not in my affair.

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Speaker 1: I let's be very clear, I am happily married, But

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm gonna say? Though I was

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Speaker 1: Like I'm tired of giving the besitas. Somebody give me

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Speaker 2: The Rivera Fernandez affair would go on for a full

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Speaker 1: Wait stop, and even welcome Patricia into the ranch like a.

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Speaker 2: Damn did don't call Hernqa for nothing like what made

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, this wasn't the first unexpected edition to be

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Speaker 1: sent in Gouquita's family, because a couple of years earlier,

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Speaker 3: Not oh my god, what are you going to tell me?

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Speaker 2: Which, by the way, is the name of the song

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Speaker 2: Bitch, I would cry too if I couldn't swim in

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Speaker 1: Can we also discuss that Segnoras of that era were

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Speaker 1: that is some shit. I will never understand that entire

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Speaker 3: I have no comment. Then you're absolutely right, Listen. I

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Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of my life is too

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Speaker 1: good and I don't want it to change, okay, and

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Speaker 1: what will I do without him?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Like we have evolved, thank God, so much. Like I

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Speaker 1: heard someone call that type of life a gilded cage.

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what it was. And I think for

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Speaker 1: that shit's gold. You got a guitar, ship, swimming pool,

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Speaker 1: but it's lonely.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, But I'm going to say this so like,

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Speaker 2: but for her to accept this baby, like what if

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Speaker 1: Well, hold on the baby. I understand that's her sister's baby.

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Speaker 1: Like if my brother came to me, it was like

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Speaker 1: of your husband's other woman girl and her at her No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you I'm not built for that life.

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Speaker 1: These senoras don't fuck with these senoras. There are another species. True,

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Speaker 1: rightly or wrongly, under Kuquita's eye, the children were grow

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Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty three is can You Think.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty fours those and Ferdananda's biggest record of the

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Speaker 1: Which was a tie into the nineteen eighty nine film

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Speaker 2: Scripts, where Unachika, with some land to her name, takes

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Speaker 1: Here, what do you think some type casting happening in

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Speaker 2: I think, like, I really can't even deal with whatever

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Speaker 1: You know what, It's an interesting companion to the film

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Speaker 1: here we sent the plays a singer who falls in

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Speaker 2: Is played by Alejandro Fernandez, the Littlest Potrio, who keeped

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Speaker 3: Twenty by the time the movie came out.

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Speaker 1: Things get rocky for the singer and the journalist. His

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Speaker 1: as the years go on, Rodrigo, I mean, wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: in with you, Joseph. Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Literally, If this isn't about Patricia and the Rodrigo, I

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Speaker 1: Is straight slanderous?

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Speaker 3: Do you think that he wrote this? Do you think that, like,

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Speaker 2: But royalty can make you a target, and something unthinkable

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Speaker 2: The kidnappers were cray and demanded a ransom of five

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Vicenta was printing money, but like not

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Speaker 1: No you didn't, No you didn't, just I did.

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Speaker 1: We need better parenting. Let's just be honest. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: The whole time, the family stayed tight lipped, saying nothing

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Speaker 2: Tempa even kept doing concerts now wait listen, which the

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Speaker 3: So I totally get it, and I'll say it again. Listen,

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Speaker 1: Must go on, says are child free co hosts.

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Speaker 3: True.

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Speaker 1: But eventually the kidnappers decided that things just weren't moving

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Speaker 2: Was uh, chop chop, honey.

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Speaker 1: No, but I know literally no, it's like like cut

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, it looks like they're going from the least

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Speaker 3: So clock is ticking.

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Speaker 1: The sent This Senior a total of one hundred and

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Speaker 3: I can't see it. I have good news. I have

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Speaker 2: Finally, they managed to scrounge a cool three point five

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Speaker 1: You guys, you're listening to this going did they make

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Speaker 1: This is not like an April Fool's Day episode. This

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Speaker 1: Now, days later, the family was getting ready for bed,

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Speaker 1: They told interviewers. The first thing I said to him was,

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Speaker 2: Whatever lies Okay to even called a doctor in the

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Speaker 1: I mean, Latino parents, man, we always make it about ourselves.

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Speaker 2: They're wild Latino Latino him is wild. But then he

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Speaker 1: Though, I mean, listen, we are joking and laughing because

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Speaker 2: But remember that I'm from Alpastro, Texas, and like, what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they happen all the time throughout Latin America,

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Speaker 3: So this is not such a wild story to me.

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Speaker 2: Wait, well, hold on, That's where I wanted to stop

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Speaker 2: You know it was the authorities who told him he

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Speaker 2: He was doing concerts and if he were to stop,

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Speaker 1: Right. Maybe he was trying to make more money for

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Speaker 2: Like imagine to actually be there, like yeah, like he

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Speaker 2: you know, such a crazy like it is just a

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Speaker 3: Fine, where's gooo? Keep that on? All this?

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Speaker 1: I need to hear from her, right, I need to

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Speaker 1: I need to hear from Vicente Junior.

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Speaker 3: I was about to say.

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Speaker 2: We haven't even asked about the person who's fucking kid

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 2: He would even venture into music a few years later,

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Speaker 2: dropping three albums El Major de Loos, Potrios, Vicente Fernandez,

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Speaker 1: But alas the eldest Potrio didn't quite inherit his father's

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Speaker 3: It's hard out here for a nepo. Look.

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Speaker 2: It was back to El Rancho for Vicenta Junior, where

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Speaker 1: The family would move on from this unthinkable ordeal, but

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Speaker 3: My god, why are we ranking children?

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Speaker 1: And his number one son Alejandro during victory laps, Santi, honey,

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Speaker 1: you're number one and I have no other children, but

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Speaker 2: Okay, but listen, number one meaning most successful, because his

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Speaker 1: Right, that's right, that's right, that's right. Alejandro, meanwhile, had

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Speaker 2: Chent they marked a new millennium with the two part

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Speaker 1: together on the Lassos in Sebliss Tour, a special nine

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Speaker 1: night circuit all up and down the US West Coast

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Speaker 1: and Mexico.

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Speaker 2: Tenta would then score a Latin Grammy for Best on

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Speaker 2: Shadow Album and a Person of the Year Award for

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Speaker 2: the Latin Recording Academy.

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Speaker 1: The award honored him not just for his artistic achievements,

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Speaker 1: but for his philanthropy, having made donations to the National

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Speaker 1: Hispanic Scholarship Fund and having long performed for free at

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Speaker 1: rural Mexican town fairs.

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Speaker 2: I can't think of a better way to spend your sixties.

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Speaker 2: I feel like our parents all dreamt of being praised

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Speaker 2: and sent off to retirement like this.

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Speaker 1: So true, but life isn't always like that, And unfortunately

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Speaker 1: for tenthe his world was about to be turned upside

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Speaker 1: down right as he was reaching sixty five Girl.

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Speaker 3: The novela continues.

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Speaker 1: So years after the kidnapping of Assentha Junior, the family

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Speaker 1: patriarch decides to purchase kidnap and ransom insurance for his

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Speaker 1: entire family.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like Tenta took a big hit from that three

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Speaker 2: point five million dollar rant payment and not so fun fact,

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00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,479
Speaker 2: in twenty ten, criminal gangs made an estimated five hundred

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Speaker 2: million a year for ransom payments.

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Speaker 4: We're in the wrong business, bitch, I was about to say,

468
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Speaker 4: hydid wife, Hydra husband, Honey, I'm coming for everybody like

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Speaker 4: I'm about to get paid. So the insurance definitely felt

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Speaker 4: in line with a proper reasonable measure. But now, as

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Speaker 4: a part of the agreement with the insurance company, each

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Speaker 4: member of the family had to undergo a DNA test.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, are we about to get all fucking

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Speaker 2: Jerry Springer mypovitch up on this, bitch.

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Speaker 1: M because it turns out one of the four Portrios

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Speaker 1: was not the sent the senior's biological son. He is

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Speaker 1: not the father.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, wait wait, wait, hold on, hold on.

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Speaker 2: But what if it was Dona Coqita? What if she

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Speaker 2: had a secret life of her own? No, she's the

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Speaker 2: hero all of this, Okay, but who does that leave

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Speaker 2: So Rodrigo remember him?

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Speaker 1: He was Decenta's illegitimate son with Patrisa Rivera.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Well, it turns.

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Speaker 1: Out Patricia had lied about him being the scent son.

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Speaker 1: When the test results came. Rodrigo was eighteen years old,

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Speaker 1: and all of those years he had lived on a

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Speaker 1: rancho as just another member of the family.

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Speaker 3: They never ever made him feel like a black sheep.

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Speaker 1: But now the entire family cut him out. They kicked

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Speaker 1: him out of the rancho and ceased communication.

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Speaker 3: I have no comment. I need to think about that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But again we have to point out none of

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Speaker 1: this was the child's fault, and of course he tried

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Speaker 1: to reason with the family and find reconciliation, but to

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Speaker 1: no avail.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to lie.

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Speaker 2: I kind of have a bad taste in my mouth

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Speaker 2: from this, and it is not the popcorn that I

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Speaker 2: had earlier.

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Speaker 1: Bad taste, Like I am throwing this entire family in

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Speaker 1: the garbage, Like I'm done with you, all of you,

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Speaker 1: all of you. I was already done with Jenta a

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Speaker 1: little bit.

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Speaker 2: I kind of just Likeita raised but where are you baby?

506
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Speaker 1: Like I'm done with her too, don't like she was

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Speaker 1: my hero. She was my hero and now she is

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Speaker 1: the villain? Like what an art?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Right, I mean can you imagine?

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Speaker 1: I mean I think about all of my friends that

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00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 1: are adopted, and like how deep the bond is that

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Speaker 1: they have with their families. Like can you imagine if,

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00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, their parents that raise them

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Speaker 1: forever just decided one day to like be like you

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Speaker 1: know what, no, not enough, not enough, We decided you're

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Speaker 1: not ours anymore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have I don't have words. I could

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Speaker 3: say this.

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Speaker 2: I know poor that you go, I get it, but

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00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: like just know this too, like they be sent there

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00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: must have felt obviously he felt betrayed. Imagine I think

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Speaker 2: something is yours for so long and.

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Speaker 1: You go get Patricia, like, go figure it out with her, Like,

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Speaker 1: go get her. Don't take it out on your poor son,

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Speaker 1: who knows nothing different. I mean, we're talking about a

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Speaker 1: lifetime of therapy. And what's crazy is Fernandez did offer

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Speaker 1: to pay for Rodrigo's education, but like, hello, bu like

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Speaker 1: are you going to pay for my therapy too? And

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Speaker 1: by the way, rumors also suggest that ed Chadle paid

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Speaker 1: his former son millions to just vanish. He just wanted

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with him.

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Speaker 2: It's got the cope taste I was having. But believe

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Speaker 2: what you want, I guess.

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Speaker 1: And we're not done. There's still a little bit more

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Speaker 1: to Rodrigo's story, though. All Throughout his teen years, he

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Speaker 1: had been studying and practicing music.

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Speaker 3: Same as that Alekandro. He wanted to be just like

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Speaker 3: his dad.

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Speaker 1: After the ordeal that the family put him through, Rodrigo

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Speaker 1: landed himself a meeting with EMI where he performed the

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Speaker 1: rancherra music that he had learned at Rancho Tres Potrios.

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Speaker 2: Our Portrioscuro. Got signed Bitch, and his debut record.

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Speaker 3: Was a hit.

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Speaker 1: It Begatomas Bayo made waves and got Rodrigo the title

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Speaker 1: of Musical Revelation of the Year at the two thousand

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Speaker 1: and seven oh Ye Awards. Rodrigo put in work and

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Speaker 1: earned a solid reputation in the regional Mexican music scene,

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Speaker 1: but eventually he'd hang up his hat and since then

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Speaker 1: he stayed out of the spotlight and as far as

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Speaker 1: the public knows, out of contact with the Fernandez dynasty.

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Speaker 3: Damn sad.

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Speaker 1: Y'all sad and dark, and we're not even done. There's

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Speaker 1: still another episode on the next Becoming an Icon vicent

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Speaker 1: that Fernandez leaves behind a checkered legacy. Becoming an Icon

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