1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: It's a tailgate game on. I am Chris Welsh, that 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: is Andrew Erickson, that is Derek Brown. We are here 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: to talk about some football with you. How fragile are 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: some of these big super Bowl contenders? Great question, Welsh. 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that biggest controversial takes. We got it. 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: But gentlemen, how is it having to deal with me? 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: You haven't had to deal with me at all over 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: here on the tailgate whatsoever? So, Derek Brown, I'm gonna 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: let you go first. What nice and kind thing would 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: you like to start with about me? 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: That if I'm not the biggest CMC stand over the 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: last two years, then you're definitely higher than me. 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: Okay, that's not a nice thing, Erickson. Let's have you 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: have a try. Let's hear you say something really, really 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: nice and fun with me. 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: You put me on the freaking spot. 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: I don't know know you have a beautiful face. Well, 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: thank you. That's a compliment. Me being a higher CMC 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: guy is not a compliment. Ericson your turn to say 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: something great about me? 21 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 3: Please move on, Welsh, You in the discord community pull 22 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 3: back the curtain on what the movie face Off is 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: and it totally changed my life watching that movie, turning 24 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: it into now a movie club that I do. 25 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: He's going down an entire alley way week. 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 3: I've watched so many Nicholas Cage movies now over the 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 3: past six months and it's all thanks to you, buddy. 28 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: All Right, Well, I don't think anyone has a really 29 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: high opinion of me, so we're gonna have to move 30 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: on there. So there was really nothing nice about there, 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: But I'm glad you've met Nicholas Cage. 32 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: That Welsh has done is introduce you to Nick Cage. 33 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: Yea, the best thing I've done is like CMC and 34 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: introduce you to Nicholas Cage. So we're gonna work on that, 35 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: and you're gonna work too great Uneven Beard, that's going on? 36 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: What's Everyboddy? Glad to see you guys, Glad to hang out, 37 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: Glad to talk some football and make sure you guys 38 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: are subscribed to the channel. If you're hanging out here, 39 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: there's no reason not to be. Continue growing the tailgate 40 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: where we have a ton of fun talking football, getting 41 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: the laid back with the buddies, with the friends who 42 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: are about to embark upon, by the way, the Fantasy expo. 43 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: You guys are going to be together, which is going 44 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: to be a great time. You're going to be around 45 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: the fantasy football community, but the fantasy football community kind 46 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: of intertwines with the overall football community as well, So 47 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: you guys are going to be having a blast. I'm 48 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: going to miss being around you guys bigger though. Our 49 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: big topic in here is I want to talk about 50 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: Super Bowl contenders. Before we do so, though, want to 51 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: remind you guys about giveaway opportunities. We've got a chance 52 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: for you to win a one year premium access to 53 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 1: our sports betting tools over our Betting Pros. This is 54 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: going to be your shot to do it. All you 55 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: got to do is subscribe to the Tailgate YouTube channel. 56 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: So do that right now, easy, drop a comment. 57 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: Blow. 58 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: When you make that comment, you're subscribe. You are entered, 59 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: my friend. That's it. We'll be announcing a winner right 60 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: here on the Tailgate YouTube channel, so make sure to 61 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: turn on notifications so you know when new videos are 62 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: up and you can claim your prize. Gentlemen, I present 63 00:02:52,760 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: to you the mount Rushmore of fragile Super Bowl contenders. 64 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: We put the best minds together here at Fantasy Pros, 65 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: which was Ericson and Debros and a little bit of mine, 66 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: and we put together not only a Mount Rushmore of 67 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl contenders, but how fragile are these teams? Truly? 68 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 2: It? 69 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: So, as you can see on the Mount Rushmore, we 70 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: have the Kansas City Chiefs, the San Francisco forty nine Ers, 71 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, and the Buffalo Bills, four teams that, 72 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: for different varying degrees have a fragile run as Super 73 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: Bowl contenders. So the question is going to be what 74 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: makes it so? And then at the end, I want 75 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: you guys to come up with who you think and 76 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: how they are going to fall off the Mount Rushmore. 77 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: So Ericson, why don't you start with who you think 78 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: on this Mount Rushmore? Because I think again, if you 79 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: want to have like a basic line of it, you 80 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: have the Chiefs with you know, Mahomes injuries. You have 81 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers with substations and just you know, 82 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: injury woes kind of following them throughout the season. The 83 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: Eagles and having an offense that's just hard to fathom 84 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: that they can continue to roll. And the Bills, the 85 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: Bills with all the pieces that work around Josh Allen. 86 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: Those are the basic lines here of what I think 87 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: what can make some of them fragile. But Erickson, which 88 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: of these four do you think has the rockiest hold 89 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: on staying on this Mount Rushmore? 90 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: It's got to be the San Francisco forty nine ers. 91 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: I knew it. 92 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: When you're going to go. 93 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 3: The roster is basically built on Trent Williams, Christian McCaffrey, 94 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: Nick Bosa. Mike Evans is the new addition. He is 95 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: the backup, the plan of Okay, we need reinforcements. Let's 96 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: bring him, thirty three year old Mike Evans on one hands, 97 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: try like like that's the plan here, Christian Kirk, like, 98 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 3: these are the guys that they're bringing in. So for 99 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: me and I remember when we did this in the 100 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: Power Ranking show a couple months ago, they were I 101 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: think inside my top three in the NFC Power Rankings 102 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: because I was looking at them through a glass half 103 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: full lens where man, if they just don't get gutted 104 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: by injuries for like the third season in a row, 105 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 3: well we see what Kyle Shannon's be able to do 106 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: with this team when he's operating at less than one 107 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: hundred percent. I mean, this defense had no one left 108 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: on it, and they still did enough with Robert Salad 109 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: calling the shots to win games. They won games with 110 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: Matt Jones last year with Kendrick Bourne as their number 111 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 3: one wide receiver against the Rams on Thursday night. Kyle 112 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: Shanahan just adds so much to what they do offensively. 113 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: I think Raheem Morris coming in as defensive coordinator, I 114 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 3: think is a really good addition. I think he's one 115 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,119 Speaker 3: of these head coach coordinators where when he's the head coach, 116 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 3: he's probably a little bit overmatched, but we can put 117 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 3: him in a coordinator position. He does a really really 118 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 3: good job. So getting back some of these guys that 119 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: got hurt last year, whether it's Nick Bosa, Fred Warner, 120 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 3: but still those guys are all old. Bosa's gonna turn 121 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,239 Speaker 3: twenty nine, Warrener's gonna turn thirty, McCaffrey already turned thirty, 122 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 3: Kittle's thirty three. He didn't even mention George Kittle. He's 123 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: also coming off a torn Achilles' injury. And then like 124 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,559 Speaker 3: the fact that they have to play in Australia. 125 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 4: In Week one, it's just like on the cake of Okay, 126 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 4: we have this injury playing team let's have them have 127 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 4: the fly the farthest effort to a place that we've 128 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 4: never done in an NFL game, or at least that 129 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 4: I can't remember that we've done a real NFL game 130 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 4: to kick off the season or kick off Thursday night 131 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 4: because the Patriots play on Wednesday night before. 132 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 3: It's just the NFL just seems to do no favors 133 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: for the forty nine ers, and the forty Niners still 134 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 3: find ways to win and win a lot of games 135 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: and impressive fashion, but it's a matter of how long 136 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: can this last where one guy goes down and is 137 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: it just a trickle down effect. I would like to 138 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: think that it can't be more injured than last year, 139 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: but when you look at the key pieces and how 140 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: old these guys are and coming off all these injuries, 141 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: my like blindly betting on, oh, well, they can't be 142 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 3: as injury they were last year, it's like, well maybe 143 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: they can't. And for me, that makes them very, very 144 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: fragile as a team because on paper, it's like, man, 145 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 3: I could see this all really working out for them 146 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 3: because I've seen them operate, and again, well you know 147 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: the forty nineers better than anyone. Am I miss playing 148 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: here missing this type of analysis, or are you kind 149 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 3: of lockstep with Hey, they can be the best team, 150 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: they could be the worst team if things don't go 151 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: their way. 152 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not going to be my pick, but I'm 153 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: with you on that. Like the whole, you know, the 154 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: whole of the forty nine ers, I think is an 155 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: incredibly dangerous team. Christian McCaffrey to Mike Evans, when George 156 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: Kittle is healthy. They're all kind of healthy right now. 157 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: But as you're mentioning the problem is, it's like, Okay, 158 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: what week is Nick Bosa? What week is Trent Williams? 159 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: How many weeks is he going to miss? 160 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: Is? 161 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: Christian? You know, it is an age level that they're 162 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: always battling these injuries. It's one of those things where 163 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: you look at it and you're just like, man, this 164 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: is just so unlucky, and then like four years later, 165 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: you can't be like, man, they're so unlucky. It's like, no, 166 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: the construction of these guys that you're bringing in, they're 167 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: as talented as any team out there, but they cannot 168 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: keep these pieces out there. So I do agree that 169 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: definitely makes them fragile. There's another way I want to 170 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: coax us up here in a second. But let's get 171 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: through this Mount rushmore with d bro of who do 172 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: you think is the most fragile Super Bowl contender? Because 173 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: there's another thing I want to talk about on the 174 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: teams that are not on this list, But of these 175 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: four the identifiers of the most fragile, is it the 176 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: forty nine ers or do you have another team? 177 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: So I'm not going to go for the forty nine ers, 178 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: although I'm very curious after this conversation, do we get 179 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: a Russell Wilson esque like stretching video while on the 180 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: plane from George Kittle, Like does that happen? Like he's 181 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: doing like lunges down the aisle. 182 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna play in Week one. 183 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: I don't think, to be honest with you, he might. 184 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: I just, I just I can't imagine going on a 185 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: plane with Vi Tori Killes. 186 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: So I'm not going with the forty nine ers here. 187 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go probably contrariant out of all the teams 188 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: that I feel like the Chiefs Solow hanging fruit, the 189 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: forty nine Ers are as well. Everybody loves to hate 190 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: on the Eagles, except for Eagles fans. I'm actually gonna 191 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 2: go with the Bills here because we are stepping into 192 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: uncharted waters here with Joe Brady as head coach. We 193 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 2: don't know is he going to be a good head coach? 194 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: Is he not? Are the Bills going to look at 195 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: this after a few weeks into the season and say, man, 196 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: we should have probably stuck with Sean McDermott. I don't know, man, 197 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: because I really want to highlight the schedule for the Bills. 198 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: It is horrible, dude, Like they start off with the Texans, 199 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: the Lions, the Chargers, the Patriots, the Rams. Josh Allen 200 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: is the tie that lifts all boats. I understand that. 201 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 2: Is there also a world we could be living in 202 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: where the Bills are zero to five to start the 203 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 2: season and it doesn't like, okay, fine, they get the 204 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 2: Raiders in week six. After that they get the Ravens 205 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: and the Vikings. The Vikings are a massive wildcard. Are 206 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: they gonna be good? Are they not gonna be good? Like, 207 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: there's a way where we're walking into Week ten and 208 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: the Bills are a one win team. 209 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: Is that the chance? 210 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: Like? Is that the median projection? No? But could it happen? 211 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: It absolutely could, and then we go off the rails 212 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: of like, well, Alton kink can't seem to stay healthy, 213 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: is DJ Moore cooked? And if those are like if 214 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: he can't stay on the field, Josh Palmer was hurt 215 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: all last year, Like this offense could quickly fall to 216 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 2: where they're depending on Keon Coleman. Okay, good luck with that, 217 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: Mikol Harbman, Skyler Bell, like the offensive line is really 218 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: good and like okay, but impose your will and we 219 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: go back to the just a run centric offense. But 220 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: it's not like the Bills have been an incredibly healthy 221 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: team too, So like I just see a lot of 222 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 2: ways where that nobody's talking because it's Josh Allen and 223 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: it's the Bills and Josh Allen is just superman that 224 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 2: nobody's talking about it, especially with the Bills schedule of like, 225 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: if this goes bad, it could go really bad to 226 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: begin the season. 227 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: You know, an interesting thing too, we did the VP 228 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: show together that was like a collod with Tailgate. But 229 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: like Josh Allen's number one on the MVP odds right 230 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: now as well, Like you gotta see that's kind of 231 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: like a fragile thing too. It's interesting because I wanted 232 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: to pick on you a little bit and be like, uh, 233 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: goes Debro with this. The Texans are the greatest team 234 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: on the planet. They're gonna beat everybody, and the Colts 235 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: can't win a game. But you do look at this 236 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: schedule and it's like, there is a very realistic scenario 237 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: where they go into Oakland with an O and you 238 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: have a winless record going into Oakland. 239 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: And I think too, when you look at why did 240 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 3: Sean McDermott get fired, it's because he couldn't win the 241 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: games in the playoffs. They had no problem winning games 242 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: in the regular season. Let's see, they had seven straight 243 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: ten win seasons, ten plus win seasons, seven straight playoff appearances. 244 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: Like not, that's real. 245 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: Jets Jets fans, tons of fans would love to have 246 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 3: that type of coach be there. 247 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: A lot of other fan bases would love to have 248 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: McDermott collule. 249 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 3: Digit win seasons for seven straight years. I get why 250 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: they had to make the move because with McDermott, it 251 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 3: seemed like they weren't gonna get over the hump. So 252 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: they're taking a risk on Joe Brady, who obviously knows 253 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 3: Josh Allen as off it's a play call up, but 254 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: now he's in the head coaching chair, which is different 255 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 3: because now you have to delegate duty because you can't 256 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 3: just spend your entire week eating up to the game 257 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: on offense. You have to do both things offense, defense, 258 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 3: special teams, just overall managing your coaching personnel. So I 259 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 3: think that does matter. And given this guy, I mean, 260 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: the Texans are the worst draw the Bills can the 261 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 3: texts have boned and owned. The Buffalo Bills are the 262 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: last two matchups. 263 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: Those the technical term boned and owned. 264 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: I love it. 265 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: Put that on a shirt. Boned and owned. 266 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 2: I was gonna say that needs to go on a 267 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: T shirt. 268 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, can we get some Tailcate March owned. 269 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: It needs to be on a tank top of all things. 270 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 3: Really that that's what it's been. 271 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: It's been terrible for the Buffalo Bills. 272 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 3: That's why one of my favorite Week one bets was 273 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 3: Texans money line. Boned and owned. 274 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: Baby Boned and Owned. We're getting that in the shop 275 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: store over on Fantasy Pros and Betty Pros. We're giving 276 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: away shop store codes. Go over there, get your shop 277 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: store code. We have got to have a bull can 278 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: we do Houston's owned and owned? Sorry, oh my god, Ericson, 279 00:12:55,280 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: I love that. I Am Actually we did not plan this, 280 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: but I'm going to pick a different team here. Maybe 281 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: it's lower hanging fruit. As mentioned, I think the Eagles 282 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: are the one that jump out to me. They're a 283 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: little boned and owned in their offense, and I'm just 284 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: still not convinced. That's my ultimate problem. It's Jalen Hurts 285 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: and how they are going to run offenses. You take 286 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: a I don't think there's a scenario where you are, yeah, 287 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: but where you are going to sell me, not you. 288 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: This is more rhetorical, but like that anyone can sell 289 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: me that, like aj Brown out of this offense is 290 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: like a good thing, Like that's a bad thing. That's 291 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: not going to be good. 292 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: Uh. 293 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: It doesn't make me feel positively convinced that they're going 294 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: to be able to move the ball. It was one 295 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: of the just one of the slower paced offenses. I 296 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: can't move the ball in the air. It's Jalen Hurts specifically, 297 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: Like there was a time where we were going to 298 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: kind of do this segment in a you know, who 299 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: are Super Bowl contenders that have like a great quarterback 300 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: and the pieces around or vice versa, pieces around that 301 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: have an interesting quarterback situation. I kind of think that's Eagles, 302 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: Like I think they play well. It's a division that's 303 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: it's open for interpret. They've got a strength of schedule 304 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: I've seen in some spots it's like a top ten 305 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: strength of schedule that works out there. But I think 306 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: it's the offense. It still holds them down, and I 307 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: don't feel convinced that what they've done is going to 308 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: fix that. And it's like, you know, the Commanders are 309 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: looking to press more, the Cowboys are looking to press more. 310 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: I just when I look at it at all of 311 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: these teams, I think the Bills case is really interesting. 312 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: The forty nine ers kind of comes down to health. 313 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: The team that we're not talking about, obviously is the Chiefs. 314 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: They're always in contention, but really, what Patrick Mahomes do 315 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: we have anymore? I hone in and I look at 316 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: the Eagles as going. I think it's super fragile because 317 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, the main piece that runs through has not 318 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: been a proven passer to us and a guy that 319 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: can I think carry the game in a way that 320 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: is going to put them in a great spot. So 321 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: I think that's the team that concerns me the most. 322 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: Is there any hand up to anybody that was thinking 323 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: the Chiefs but you just kind of cross it off. 324 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: Maybe it's too easy, or I don't know, they maybe 325 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: the Chiefs didn't belong on this list if all three 326 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: of us didn't pick the Chiefs. 327 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: I think with the Chiefs, it's not that we didn't 328 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 3: pick them, it's the look at the betting odds, Chiefs 329 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: are the top of every single Super Bowl their favorite 330 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: to win the division. Why because it's Mahomes and Reed right, 331 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 3: It's because they just have that built in credibility. They're 332 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 3: always there at the end. But this was the same 333 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 3: scenario with the Patriots. I know a lot of people 334 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: made the comparisons to the Patriots dynasty to the Chiefs dynasty. 335 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: And there was a role period for the Patriots when 336 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 3: Brady tore his acl and was coming off and then 337 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: they missed the playoffs the following year. The Chiefs also 338 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: weren't good last year. Even before Mahomes got hurt, they 339 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: were good. They were not going to make the playoffs 340 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 3: even with Mahomes healthy and in the lineup, and obviously 341 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: they completely fell off when he got hurt and they 342 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: lost the last three games of the season. 343 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: So the voodoo they had the previous year where they 344 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: won basically like every close they were the Bears of 345 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: the Commanders of twenty twenty four. They won like every 346 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: single close game, like every coin flip went their way. 347 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: All that regressed hard last year. 348 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think for me, and part of it 349 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: is mahomes number one target has been Travis Kelcey, and 350 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: you've seen over the last four years that efficiency has 351 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 3: declined every single season because Kelsey's getting up up, but he's. 352 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: Thirty seven years old. 353 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: Just Mary Taylor Swift, do you think he's gonna be locked 354 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: and loaded for this season? He is. 355 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: He's owned and boned. Dude, he's ready. 356 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: What we haven't even talked about Rashie Rice, Like does 357 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: he start a year on the puffs? Like I'm sorry, 358 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: I don't feel really good about the rehab plan while 359 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: he was in jail. I mean, call me crazy, guys, 360 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: but you know, I think he's gonna be healthy. 361 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: But that's not a matter of I mean he has 362 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 3: We'll see, he hasn't been available. I mean healthy and available. 363 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 3: Aren't even again with Russian Rice. You never know what's 364 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 3: gonna happen. He could be out there one week and 365 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: the next week he's doing something off the field, being 366 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: speeding through downtown Dallas being a dummy. So I think 367 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: the Chiefs are definitely fragile, and I think they deserve 368 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: to be on this list. But I think that there's 369 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: a some market sentiment that believes, oh, well, they're just 370 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 3: going to find a way because they always do, and 371 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 3: I just don't think it's this year. I think that 372 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: this is a year where you can expect Mahomes to 373 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: not be his usual self coming off of to ourn 374 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 3: acl and they'll get back to it the twenty seven. 375 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 3: But for me, it's like the moves they made trading 376 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 3: away Trent McDuffie. I think they made some good draft 377 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 3: picks for the future, but I think this is a 378 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: retool year for the Kansas City Chiefs, and I think 379 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 3: they're fine with that. It's like, no, we're gonna get 380 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 3: Mahomes ready for the second half of our dynasty run. 381 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 3: We're gonna do We're gonna win in different ways. We're 382 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: gonna run the football with Ken Walker and do things 383 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: a little bit differently. Also, last year they were one 384 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 3: of the healthiest defenses of the NFL. So I don't 385 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: think that's going to repeat Chiefs for me. Our team 386 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 3: that retool not necessarily a major super Bowl contender. 387 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I didn't pick the Chiefs because honestly, like 388 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: I don't view them and as being a super Bowl 389 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 2: contender this year. Like I think, I'm like Tayrickson's points, 390 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 2: I think this is a retool year. I think that 391 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: they could start Mahomes. I do not care what they 392 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 2: say about his recovery and crap right now, Like it's 393 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: all gonna be positivity. That's what they're gonna put out 394 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: in the space and the media and all that kind 395 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: of crap. I think there's a way where he starts 396 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: on the pup. I think that they try to save 397 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 2: him from himself and start him on the pop because again, 398 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: like I do believe this is a retool year because 399 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: aft like they went full defense in the NFL Draft, 400 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: so bumping up that side of the ball, I think 401 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 2: they're probably going to retool the entire offense outside of 402 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: Ken Walker, like all their pass catchers in this upcoming 403 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 2: NFL draft year. So like I look at this as 404 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: a reset year. For the Chiefs, So I just I 405 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 2: honestly don't think they're going to be sniffing a Super 406 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: Bowl this year. 407 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: So something people are probably asking, Okay, we're the Patriots, 408 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: where are the Rams? Where the Seahawks? I don't know 409 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: if we could put together another rush more of the 410 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: four teams that we did that are Super Bowl contenders 411 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,959 Speaker 1: that we didn't say were fragile, those three I just 412 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: listed off. I think every other one if you want 413 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: to be like, well, Lebroncos one for you. I just 414 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: don't think they sit in the same vibe as those 415 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: other three teams. But if you wanted to do it, 416 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: do you think there's a little bit more fragility we 417 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: should be paying attention to any of those teams or 418 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: do they deserve the pass? Like from the betting pro 419 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: show we talked about, I feel like the Patriots are 420 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: going to be the one that maybe we pick on, 421 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: like I think the Rams are locked. If you pick 422 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: on the Seahawks and the Niners of anything, it's that 423 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: ridiculous division that they're going through. There seem to be 424 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: some questions, especially mister Patriot over here Erickson has but 425 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: do you think the other Super Bowl contenders that we 426 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: didn't give the designation a fragile maybe should be a 427 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: little bit more, or do you think this is rightfully done? 428 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: Like those are the teams that need to be placed 429 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: in a little bit of a higher standard because the 430 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: Patriots added, the Rams added defensively, ridiculously, and obviously you 431 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: know the Seahawks. I mean, I guess there's still some 432 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: questions around them, especially losing Ken Walker. But does anybody 433 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: here Erickson, I'll start with you. Do you believe that 434 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: we should have given a little bit more attention to 435 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: those other guys or do they get a pass as 436 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: the real true Super Bowl contendent. 437 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 2: I've got two teams, by the way, that I think 438 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: we should that should be discussed here. 439 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: Well, I do think that the Rams, when it comes 440 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 3: to fragility, Matthew Stafford's back, right, that's all that we 441 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: can talk about all yeah season last year, and because 442 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: he stays healthy and the offensive line was excellent last 443 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: year keeping him upright now, we're not worried about it 444 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 3: at all. Right, It's like, oh, we super worried about it, 445 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 3: That's what I mean. It's just not nearly as discussed 446 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 3: as much because nothing ended up transpiring, but that risk 447 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: is still there, and what if he does go down 448 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 3: or he has to miss time. Jimmy Groppol is not 449 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 3: even on the roster anymore. So there is baby rookie. 450 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 3: You know, are they going to throw him into the 451 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: fire where they make a trade. We don't know, but 452 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: there is some fragility there with Matthew Stafford, who's not 453 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 3: a spring chicken. He's getting up there in age played 454 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 3: at MVP level last year. I think the offensive line 455 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 3: for the Rams too. Alec Jackson has this ongoing legal 456 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: thing that could or could not result in a suspension. 457 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: What happens if they already lost Havenstein? He retired, So yeah, 458 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 3: you're losing yet another tackle again. This offensive line was 459 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 3: lights out last year keeping Matthew Stafford upright, They suffer 460 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 3: a couple more injuries here and there. You see it 461 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,239 Speaker 3: compiling effect. I think that's the number one thing with 462 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 3: all of these teams. It comes to fragility. If you 463 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: have an offensive line that breaks down, that is what 464 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 3: derails your season. We've seen it with so many teams 465 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 3: over the years where everything looks scram paper. The skilled 466 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 3: position players, elite quarterback. Oh he's gonna throw it all 467 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 3: over the yard. You got great defensive backs, but then 468 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 3: in the trenches, a couple of injuries here and there, 469 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 3: guys are going to have to battle up in their 470 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 3: weight class and they struggle as a result. So those 471 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 3: are the concerns I have for specifically with like a 472 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 3: team like the Rams, where if the offensive line's not 473 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 3: as good Stafford, maybe this is a couple more games. 474 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: I mean last year, remember, and their division is so tough, 475 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 3: like the Rams have no Like, where's the margin of 476 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 3: error for the Rams? It's non existent? Like they got 477 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 3: to be pretty perfect, and yes, they have the roster 478 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 3: to do so. 479 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: The margins at the quarterback though, I guess I disagree 480 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: with that, Like you're saying, what is the margin for air? 481 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: Like the defense if they're going to bring Donald back, 482 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: they've got Garrett, Like, they've got an insane wide receiver corps, 483 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: an insane running back corps. Like the margin of error 484 00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: is that quarterback? For me? 485 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 2: So the Stafford thing I think is a low hanging fruit, 486 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: like if he goes out, he misses time, they're kaibash. 487 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 2: They're not a super Bowl team. 488 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we could argue it might be the 489 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: most screwed, even though they have these great pieces. 490 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: But I can go also go to the offensive line. 491 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: Their death is not great man like Eleric Jackson. And 492 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 2: by the way, with the Alaric Jackson stuff, it sounds 493 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,239 Speaker 2: like he's been cleared of all this stuff. So I'm 494 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: not worried about the felony stuff. But does anybody with 495 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: anybody feel great about David Quisenberry, bo Lemur, Dylan McMahon, 496 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 2: like any of these guys if we were have to 497 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: step into two because it's not like Steve Avila's not 498 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: like ever had injuries. I mean outside of your two 499 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: starting tackles, they're thin as far as their offensive line 500 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: behind their starters. And then again, like this is even 501 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 2: a Stafford thing too, say Stafford stays healthy, what if 502 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 2: Puka gets hurt and DeVante Adams gets hurt. He Puka, 503 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: We've seen enough injuries. Davante Adams was hurt last year. 504 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,719 Speaker 2: If both of those guys go down, I'm so happy 505 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 2: that the Rams have seventeen freaking tight ends. That's wonderful, Okay, 506 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: but their wide receiver room is exavier Smith cannot say Monthell, 507 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 2: Cija Daniels, Tyler, Scott Mario Williams, Brentan Presley, True True Edwards, 508 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: who is just old Alvis Preston. There you go, Well 509 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: you won't even know who that is. 510 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: You're too young anyway. 511 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 2: But dude, but this all goes back to, like the 512 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 2: defense I feel incredibly good about because of their depth. 513 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 2: Their offense is so freaking top heavy that if Pooka 514 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: and Adams missed time. This was the big problem that 515 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: I had with them drafting a Tya Simpson, a third 516 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: receiver on this depth chart that could step in if 517 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 2: either one of those guys are hell, both of them 518 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 2: miss his time would be huge for them. But you know, 519 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: when you get to get your quarterback of the future, 520 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: I guess you got to get the quarterback of the 521 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: future who might not even be freaking good, but you know. 522 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: Then they're gonna go sign Stephan Diggs and that'll we'll 523 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: take that out. But I get what you're saying, We'll see. 524 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, the other thing about like moving on from 525 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: the Rams, I think it's kind of crazy that like 526 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 2: how much steam and the fact that the Baltimore Ravens 527 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 2: are the third high third best favorite right now for 528 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 2: Super Bowl odds, Like we're all just pretending like Lamar 529 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: Jackson coming off. 530 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: A down year didn't happen. 531 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 2: We're all just pretending like that he doesn't have an 532 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: injury history and disappears at various times during the back 533 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 2: half of the regular season. We're all pretending like their 534 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 2: offensive line doesn't have issues. They have a brand new 535 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 2: head coach, and while I think he's gonna be good, 536 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: we don't know. They have a brand new offensive coordinator. 537 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 2: And everybody's like, Oh, he's gonna be amazing because of 538 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: all the Ben Johnson shine, And it's like, but what 539 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: if he's not, Like we've never seen him call plays 540 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: in the freaking NFL. The other part about all of 541 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 2: that is too is we've never seen Lamar Jackson operate 542 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: in a timing based offense as well. Oh wait, speaking 543 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: of said passing offense, everybody feels good about the pass catchers, 544 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 2: pass a Flowers, You feel good about Tess Walker. We 545 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: don't know we're gonna get out Elijah Surratt, Mark Andrews 546 00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 2: is he cooked, Isaiah likely's gone. I think the the 547 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: wind total for the Baltimore Ravens, which last time I looked, 548 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 2: was the highest in the freaking NFL at eleven and 549 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: a half is outright insanity. 550 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: No, that can't be. I don't is that right. That 551 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: doesn't sound right. 552 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: Last time I looked. Unless I'm wrong ericson. 553 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 3: I haven't looked at the recent wind totals. I know 554 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 3: it's high, and it was definitely one that I was 555 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 3: not interested in pursuing thinking about. 556 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to look here. I had one of 557 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: the things up here. They are, Yeah, they're ten and 558 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: a half, but it's not the highest. They're there with 559 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: like Detroit Buffalo. Actually, the Los Angeles Rams are the 560 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: highest total right now at eleven and a half according 561 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: to betting pros if you go check out on the 562 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: the consensus side. But the Rams are there. But to 563 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: your point, the Ravens are high up there, so I 564 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: hadn't even really considered them when you really put together 565 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: crazy Super Bowl contender. 566 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: So I mean the So it looks like the Ravens 567 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 2: are consensus, they're right there with the Rams. Both of 568 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 2: them are eleven and a half. 569 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think yeah, with the Ravens last year 570 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 3: that was just like the example of how fragile they are. 571 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 3: Lamar got hurt and the entire season fell apart. And 572 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 3: the coach got fired, right, It was just yeah, yeah. 573 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 2: Like, is the anything that I laid out here? Should 574 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: they be tied with the Rams for the highest bridge 575 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 2: in total right now? 576 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: But I think it has to do with the division. 577 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 2: I think that by the way, give me the Bengals, 578 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 2: Give me the Bengals easy to win that division. 579 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: I was not a strength strength of schedule. Three of 580 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: the teams in this division, uh, including the Browns. Actually 581 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: Browns are at the top than the Ravens, and then 582 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: the Bengals I believe are all like in the top ten, 583 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: like top ten, top twelve of strength of schedule. But 584 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: I think it's so wide open, and you know, Steelers 585 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: kind of making a down tick. I think that's where 586 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: this is coming from. But no, like they shouldn't be 587 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 1: in the same territory. They shouldn't be with the Rams 588 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: at all. I completely agree. So what I'm curious about, though, 589 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: is what do you guys think in the comments below, 590 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: who is the most fragile Super Bowl contender? We put 591 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: up our mount more but some compelling cases against the Rams, 592 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: the Ravens. There might even be some crossover from the 593 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: VP show we did with the Patriots. But who is 594 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: number one in your guys, is I We had three 595 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: different looks, so we really couldn't knock a single one off. 596 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: If anything, we left the stupid Chiefs up there as 597 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: the top dog without having too big of a pick 598 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: on on them. So there you go, fragile Super Bowl contenders. 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We are going to 614 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: finish off this episode of Tailgate with some hot takes. 615 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: This gentleman right next to me, by the way, mister 616 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: Andrew Erickson, actually was a part of one of my 617 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: favorite things I've ever done here Fantasy Pros, where we 618 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: did the Hot Takes Fantasy Football podcast where we were 619 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: actually doing hot sauces and we had all these takes 620 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: that had different meters and we were trying to give 621 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: our analysis. If you haven't ever seen it, go back 622 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: and watch it. We had to give our fantasy football 623 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: analysis while consuming wings with hot sauce on it, and 624 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: me and Ericson went ham. We went hardcore on that. 625 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: So I will also own an l I opted out 626 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 2: of that because I would have brought it in no part. 627 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: I would have been in a hospital bed for a 628 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: week like I would have been down for the count 629 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: with my poor sensitive stuff. 630 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: We had multiple people that were not willing to do it, 631 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: and Ericson stepped up and he absolutely rushed it. So 632 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: I have an affinity for hot takes. So as we 633 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 1: finished show, we were asked and tasked for our most 634 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: controversial hot take. So we've got about five minutes left 635 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: in the show here, and I want to get you. 636 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to end with mine, so ericson you kick 637 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: us off here your most controversial take that you could 638 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: put together. We did kind of liken it a little 639 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: bit too, you know, like team team based things like 640 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: we didn't get granular to like this player is going 641 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: to have da da da. It's a little bit more 642 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: macroscope of it. So your controversial macroscope of the NFL 643 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: season is. 644 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 3: What the Jets are not going to be a total 645 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 3: dumpster fire in twenty twenty six. And that is going 646 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 3: to correspond with Aaron Glenn not being the first head 647 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: coach fired, because you look at any of the futures markets, 648 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 3: he is number one on the list of who's going 649 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 3: to be fired first. Aaron Glenn, Like, that's what everyone 650 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 3: expects to happen, and I don't think it's going to happen. 651 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 3: I think that the Jets have made enough on the 652 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 3: personnel side, because when you look at the roster, I 653 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 3: think it's really good. I think that they have a 654 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 3: lot of really fun skill position players. From Garrett Wilson, 655 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 3: Ady Mitchell, they and drafted Kenyon sadik Omar Cooper Ton 656 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 3: of talent on the offensive side of the football, Young 657 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: entertaining exciting talent that I think Gino Smith, who I 658 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 3: don't think is also cooked. Look, I think last year 659 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 3: Gino Smith showed when he actually had an offensive line 660 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 3: that wasn't cletely derailed by injuries and brock Bowers. I 661 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 3: saw it in Week one against my Patriots. He cooked us, 662 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 3: he wrecked us because he had those two things. But 663 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 3: after the offensive line for the Raiders just got completely 664 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 3: decimated by injuries, brock Bowers got hurt. Geno Smith had 665 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 3: no chance because he was seventh in completion rate last 666 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 3: year from McLean pocket. I still think Geno Smith is 667 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 3: still an above average in terms of completing the football 668 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 3: to his playmakers. I think he can play point guard 669 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: in this offense. Not high on Frank Reig whatsoever. But 670 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 3: if you look at the list of offensive coordinators Geno 671 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 3: Smith has played with, it's not this Murderer's Row, it's 672 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 3: not in Mount Rushmore. It's Shame Waldron, Chip Kelly and 673 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: who is the last guy, Ryan Grubb. Three guys who 674 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 3: are no longer offensive coordinators in the NFL. So I'm 675 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 3: just saying, like, you know, Smith got it done with 676 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 3: Shane Waldron, who we look at as oh yeah, this 677 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 3: is the guy that goes to places and kills us 678 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 3: for fantasy footballfect exactly, and he won come a Player 679 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 3: of the Year with Shane Waldron and had a lot 680 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 3: of success in Seattle for multiple seasons with Waldron calling 681 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 3: the shots. So yes, I'm not super enamored by Frank 682 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,959 Speaker 3: Reich and what he did Stanford. And is he more 683 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 3: of a fossil offensive play caller? 684 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 5: Yeah? 685 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: But can he be better than Chip Kelly was last 686 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 3: year who was horrendous across every facet and was the 687 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 3: highest pay off It's accordator and then. 688 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: Got fired midway through the season. 689 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 3: I think so. So for those that I think the 690 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 3: offense will be better with Gino Smith with these weapons. 691 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 3: And defensively, I mean they have eight new starters on 692 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: this defense across the board. They've totally revamped it, and 693 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 3: I think you're going to see more of Aaron Glen's defense, 694 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 3: specifically what he wants to do. He's gonna be calling 695 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 3: plays the full time instead of last year where Steve 696 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 3: Wooks was calling a lot of plays and that was 697 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 3: obviously a bad decision on Glenn's part to let someone 698 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 3: else do that. He's gonna be taking responsibility David Bailey 699 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: high draft pick. All the trades they made, Nika Fitzpatrick, 700 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 3: Devon deisch Webber they traded for. I think there's talent 701 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 3: on this Jets roster and they had to play Miami twice, 702 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 3: so that's two more wins. 703 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: Hand up you saying Aaron Glenn not getting fired first 704 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: is the controversial take, and I'm here for de bro 705 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: your controversial take on the macro perspective for the NFL season. 706 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 2: Full Homer, baby, don't care all gas, no breaks. The 707 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: Saints are gonna have a twenty twenty five Patriots run. 708 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: They're gonna run. 709 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 2: The table all the way to the Super Bowl, baby, 710 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 2: and I'm here for it. Like Tyler Schuck takes a 711 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: big step, Kevin Moore shows he's one of the best 712 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 2: head coaches in the NFL. Second easiest schedule right now 713 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: in projected win totals. Last year, they closed the season 714 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: at four and one. If they would have kept scoring 715 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: and they had that entire clip for the entirety of 716 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: the season, they'd have been a top twelve offense. This offseason, 717 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: they added Caden Ellvis travese Chan, David Edwards, Chris Miller, 718 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 2: Jordan Tyson, Bryce lands, Oscar del They have a talented secondary. 719 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 2: They could take a step forward. They had the parts 720 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: of pieces to have one of the best offensive lines 721 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: of the NFL. Who dead baby all in Saints, Let's go. 722 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: Big shock there, all right, mine, gentlemen, we are going 723 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: to have a winless team in twenty twenty six. We 724 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,719 Speaker 1: will have a team that will go the entire stretch 725 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: and go oh in seventeen and I love that type 726 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: of stuff. Do you know what team is going to 727 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,959 Speaker 1: go winless in twenty twenty six? 728 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 4: I do. 729 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, your hometown Cardinals. 730 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: It is the Arizona Cardinals where I live. Are going 731 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: to lose every single game this season. Put the schedule 732 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: up Week one. The Chargers loss, Seattle loss at San Francisco, 733 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: big loss, the Giants shocking loss Detroit. Oh, it's gonna 734 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: be nasty, L Rams, El, Denver, El, Dallas Cowboys. Nope, 735 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: that's an L. Seattle Seahawks loss, Rams lost, Chiefs loss, 736 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders. Yeah, that's a loss. Then we're gonna 737 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: end it out the Eagles, the Jets, the Saints, the Raiders, 738 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: and the forty nine ers for anher to seventeen season. 739 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 1: The worst strength of schedule in the NFL. The Cardinals 740 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: have a horrific division where we joked about how Debro 741 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: said with my colts saying, oh, they're gonna lose all 742 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: the The Cardinals are gonna lose all their divisional games. 743 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: There are probably like two to three games that are 744 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: even within reach if we're being honest here, and that 745 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: one probably comes in the second to last week when 746 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: they're at home against the Raiders. But they are so 747 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: bad the bags will be packed in. They want to 748 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: be more of a running team. They canna run all 749 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: they want, but they ain't gonna be the wins. Zero 750 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: wins for the Arizona Cardinals. That's my controversial take. I 751 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: live here in Arizona, so I'm gonna be dodging all 752 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: the things thrown at me. But you guys can let 753 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: us know dodging the WS they're gonna be boned and 754 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: own the Cardinals for the the season. They can have 755 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. That's my take. But what's 756 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: your guys's controversial take? I love it Aaron Glenn not fired, 757 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: Saints looking like the Rams and the Cardinals winless. That 758 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: is how we finish this out. 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