1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: The Falcons had one hundred million reasons to stick with 2 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and one big reason to bench. But will 3 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: rookie Michael Pennix Junior be the difference in the final 4 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: three weeks of a playoff push. Hear what Cousins himself 5 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: had to say today on the present and a complicated 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: future in Atlanta patter Mahomes doesn't need to worry about 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: losing his job anytime soon, but that ankle has taken 8 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: an absolute beating. 9 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: If he plays on Saturday. 10 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: What version of the Chiefs quarterback what we see against 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: the Texans. We'll tell you the latest out of Kansas City. 12 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: Chiefs could be. 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: On a collision course with the Bills again, and that 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Buffalo offense is showing no signs of slowing down. Neither 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: is running back Ty Johnson, who ran circles around the 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: Lions all the way to a guest spot on tonight's show. 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: We are also at our best in space. 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: Welcome inside with the Insiders alongside Ian Rappaport and Mike Garaffalo. 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: I am Tom Peliicero. 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: It is the eve of Week sixteen in the NFL. 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: The Chargers and Groncos kicks things off tomorrow night, we 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: will talk a lot about that game. We will get 23 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: into your best fantasy options and some ones you should 24 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: avoid as well. With michae Leflorio joins the show, we 25 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: will start out in Flowering Branch, Georgia, where the Atlanta 26 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: Falcons made a seismic change last night. 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: Shortly after our show aired. Not that I'm bitter. 28 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins headed to the bench just about nine months 29 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: after the Falcons had given him a four year, one 30 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty million dollar contract. Six weeks after that, 31 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: they drafted Michael Pennis Junior eighth. Overall, this day was 32 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: always coming, but why was it now? 33 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: Regie Morris, Yeah, I don't think anything's ever permanent in 34 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: the National Football League, you know, but you know, right now, 35 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: Michael Pennix is our quarterback and we're going to back 36 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: him and give him the utmost support he needs, you know, 37 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: as we did Kurt when he was outstarted. 38 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 4: You know, it's pro football, and uh, you know there's 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 4: a standard that that you know, I have for myself 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 4: and the team has for me that Unfortunately I wasn't 41 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 4: playing for that standard consistently enough. There's no entitlement and uh, 42 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 4: and so you know, you gotta go out and earn 43 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 4: it every single day. And I think I've said that 44 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 4: really since I got here. You to got nursed every 45 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 4: single day. And if you if you don't, you know, 46 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 4: then then you know there's always going to be you know, 47 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 4: you're always going to be competing and and uh, and 48 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 4: changes can happen. 49 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 5: Why was it important for you to call my class night? 50 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 4: You know, I like to shoot elephants in the room, 51 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 4: so I just wanted to shoot one. 52 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 6: My shopping with my girlfriend was at Costco and I 53 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 6: got the call and you know, they they they told 54 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 6: me that I was going to be the starting quarterback, 55 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 6: you know, for for the for the said the season. 56 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 6: And you know, as you can imagine, it was some 57 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 6: nerves as an excitement, you know, but just super blessed 58 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 6: to be to be in his position, you know, super 59 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 6: blessed to be on his team for the opportunity. And 60 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 6: you know, it was always like like I always say 61 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 6: my family, they always say, you know, just trusting God, 62 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 6: trusting the process, and you know, go about each and 63 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 6: every day you know, with that trust and belief that 64 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 6: whenever it's your time, it's your time. And they called 65 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 6: last night and they said it was my time. 66 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: So Michael Pannix Junior also said he was about to 67 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: get a Costco hot dog, and then when informed he 68 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: was about to be the starting quarterback of the Atlanta Falcons, 69 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: he wasn't hungry anymore. 70 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: Solid Costco promo. They didn't have to pay a dime 71 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: for it. 72 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: Let's welcome in our Steve Whites to the conversation as well, 73 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: who has covered the Atlanta Falcons closely for a very 74 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: long time. Ian though, I want to start with you. 75 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: We know all this transpired, from the big money signing 76 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: of Kirk Cousins to the drafting of Michael Pennix Junior. 77 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 1: You always feel like this was a possibility, but it's 78 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: not something the foul wanted to do. 79 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: They felt like they had to why. 80 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 7: Now, First of all, side note on Costco. 81 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 8: They actually have a great rotisserie chicken too. It's like 82 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 8: five bucks, one of the best chickens I've ever had. 83 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 8: It's why my wife doesn't let her make chicken, because 84 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 8: you can just go to Costco and get one for 85 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 8: a five bucks. Anyway, not a sponsor, but I do 86 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 8: love Costco, so I respect his decision making there anyway, 87 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 8: as far as Michael Pennix goes and the Falcons go. 88 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 7: They did not want this. 89 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 8: They drafted Michael Pennix to be the quarterback of the future. 90 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 8: They signed Kirk Cousins to one hundred and eighty million 91 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 8: dollar contract with one hundred million dollars guaranteed to be 92 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 8: the quarterback. Now, you listen to kirk cousins voice, you 93 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 8: listen to his tone, you listen to Raheem Morris, not 94 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 8: just today, but after the game, it was obvious. It 95 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 8: was clear and obvious. It's like what the NFL uses 96 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 8: to overturn things. The Falcons overturn their own decision and 97 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 8: keep Kirk Cousins as they're starting quarterback because they couldn't 98 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 8: just couldn't keep doing it. His play was not good enough. 99 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 8: Everything at the quarterback position was not good and if 100 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 8: they want to have a chance of the playoffs, the 101 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 8: future had to be now. And that is the sit 102 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 8: situation for Mike Pennix. So for him, it's simply go 103 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 8: play right. I mean, he's a guy from Minerston. He's 104 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 8: really impressed even beginning in training camp, all throughout the 105 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 8: building with his not just his arm talent, which is great, 106 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 8: but also his overall knowledge. He just needs to go 107 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 8: play as far as Kirk, as far as Kirk Cousins Now, 108 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 8: it's really just what are they going to do next? 109 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 8: How are they going to get rid of him? For 110 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 8: lack of a better way of saying, is it going 111 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 8: to be trade, is it going to be released? 112 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 7: How is this going to end? 113 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 8: That's actually the really only question that could be answered 114 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 8: in the coming weeks. 115 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 9: If you listen to what Rahe Marras said and you 116 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 9: read between the lines as well, you can sense that 117 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 9: this was something that they have been mulling for a 118 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 9: couple of weeks now and hoping that Cousins rebounded. I 119 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 9: mean he did rebound early in the season. I covered 120 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 9: the Week one game when they hosted the Steelers, and 121 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 9: the entire offense look terrible, and it's like, Okay, he's 122 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 9: an older quarterback in a new place, coming off in Achilles, 123 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 9: Let's see if he can bounce back. And he did, 124 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 9: and at one point we were talking about him as 125 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 9: being the leading candidate for the Comeback Player of the 126 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 9: Year award, and then there was a late season Lol. 127 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 9: Again it's like, well, maybe he'll snap out of it 128 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 9: one more time, and what rahe Marris basically said today 129 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 9: was we played a clean game across the board. We 130 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 9: didn't get good enough play at the quarterback position. Meaning 131 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 9: it was clear from reviewing this tape that the issue 132 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 9: was not is this receiver open? Is this the right 133 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 9: play call? The issue was the quarterback was late. Sometimes 134 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 9: he made bad decisions, sometimes he was wide with a 135 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 9: few throws. It just wasn't good quarterback play. And Cousins 136 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 9: admitted to that. So the decision now to move to 137 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 9: Michael Pennix, who he hasn't gotten reps. I know a 138 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 9: lot of times if you've got a highly drafted quarterback 139 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 9: who's not starting, you'll get him reps with the starters 140 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 9: along the way. Doesn't sound like they've done a whole 141 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 9: lot of that. His reps have come with the twos 142 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 9: and with the scout team as well, So that was 143 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 9: also part of it. The last couple weeks, like he 144 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 9: hasn't gotten a lot of reps, and at this point 145 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 9: it's saying, well, how much worse can it be. We're 146 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 9: playing the Giants. It's a good soft landing for him 147 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 9: as a starting quarterback. We'll see how he plays. 148 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: Michael Pennix Junior did play six years of college football, 149 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: several major injuries in there, Steve, So it's not as 150 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: if this is an Anthony Richardson situation. 151 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: Barely played. 152 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: This guy does have a lot of game experience, just 153 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: not in the NFL. The question is, now, to Mike's point, 154 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: after taking scout team reps, is he ready for this moment? 155 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. We're about to find out. 156 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 10: What you mentioned, Tom, the experience that he had in college. 157 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 10: Remember those final two years the University of Washington. One 158 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 10: of them was spent playing in a national championship, the 159 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 10: other was going eleven and two. And you saw the 160 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 10: thing there that Michael Pennix had is the big arm 161 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 10: where he Morris told me in training camp, Oh, Steve, 162 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 10: you got to see this kid throw the ball. Well, 163 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 10: you didn't play him in preseason after the first game, 164 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 10: so none of us could see him. So this is 165 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 10: really going to be kind of a breakout performance. And frankly, 166 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 10: from everything I've heard, it doesn't sound like they're going 167 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 10: to baby him very much, because that's what they've been 168 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 10: doing to Kirk Cousins. Let's not forget on Monday Night 169 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 10: against a very poor Raiders defense, he only threw the 170 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 10: ball seventeen times. They've scaled their playback, their playbook to 171 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 10: the point where they weren't really having Kirk throt outside 172 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 10: very much because the ball was dying like a pick 173 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 10: a ball or with a ball, he was throwing it 174 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 10: more to the center of the field, and that led 175 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 10: to a lot of interceptions which defenses were deciphering. So 176 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 10: now they've got a left handed quarterback with a big arm, 177 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 10: they're probably going to start the game scripted, giving him 178 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 10: some shot plays to get him going, to let people 179 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 10: know that Michael Pennix has arrived. Just a whole operational 180 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 10: stuff is that he's going to have to figure out 181 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 10: getting the play call, getting guys lined up right, and 182 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 10: things like that. 183 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins was also asked about what this means for 184 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: the future in Atlanta. He said, well, that obviously is 185 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: an off season discussion. 186 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: We'll get there. 187 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins has a great deal of control over this 188 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: situation because he has no trade clause, which means he 189 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: could simply say I'm not going to let you trade me. 190 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: You're going to either pay me the twenty seven point 191 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: five million I mode next season, or you can go 192 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: ahead and release me. The best option for the Falcons 193 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: to get out from under this is to convince Kirk 194 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: Cousins to accept the trade so they can move that 195 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: cash off onto somebody else. But there's cap implications to 196 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: this as well. There's a lot to unwind as we 197 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: get into the offseason. He also has another ten million 198 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: dollars it will become fully guaranteed if he's on the 199 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: roster by next March sixteenth. Hard to fathom based on 200 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: what's happened here over the last twenty four hours, Steve, 201 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: great stuff, Thank you very much. We will look forward 202 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: to chatting with you again very soon. By the way, Now, 203 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: with Michael Pennocks Junior set to get his first start, 204 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: we've got a rookie versus rookie time. 205 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: To up great to updat that Graphic Commanders. 206 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: It's going to be Jade and Daniels versus Michael Pennigs 207 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: Junior week seventeen. That game getting flexed into Sunday Night Football, 208 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: one that certainly will have playoff implications potentially for both 209 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: these teams. Though the Commanders can wrap up their playoff 210 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: spot this week, other teams they've been eliminated by now 211 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,119 Speaker 1: that includes the Tennessee Titans, who are benching their quarterback 212 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: Will Levis after another turnover free for all six turnovers 213 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: in that game last week. It simply has gotten to 214 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: be too much. Mason Rudolph now is going to get 215 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: his opportunity. Brown's also make change for basically the same reasons. 216 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: If your sense of the theme to the show, you 217 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: turn the ball over a lot, we got to put 218 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: somebody else in there. Jamis Winston has definitely done that. 219 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: So Dorian Thompson Robinson, who we've seen for stretches in 220 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: the past, including last year in a win that they've 221 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: got in Cleveland, he is now going to take over. 222 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: On what Kevin Stefanski said is a week to week basis, 223 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: both those teams going to be drafting very high depending 224 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: how some of these final games shake out. And look 225 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: at that, particularly in the top seven, you have seven 226 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: teams that are either with two wins or three. So 227 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: these results, what you can say are meaningless games, could 228 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: matter a lot, particularly if you're one of those teams. 229 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: And many of these teams are that are hoping ian 230 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: to land a quarterback in the twenty twenty five NFL draft, 231 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: And I. 232 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 8: Would say that's one thing we've learned about. At least 233 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 8: we'll start with the Titans. That's one thing we've learned 234 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 8: about the Titans. You wonder if Will Levis's quarterback in 235 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 8: the future. Definitely spent the last two years chowna see 236 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 8: is this year franchise guy By benching Will Levis right 237 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 8: now giving Mason Ruof a chance to run the offense, 238 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 8: you decide two things. 239 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 7: One, this is what's best for the team. 240 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 8: So Will Levis clearly not the franchise guy, at least 241 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 8: not right now. I think the other thing Brian Callian 242 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 8: is trying to show his team is accountability. He talks 243 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 8: about accountability a lot at all the positions, most important quarterback. 244 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 8: When will Levis, in his mind, is not playing good enough, 245 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 8: he has to take action as he would for anyone else. 246 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 8: And then I would say for DTR. The Browns really 247 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 8: like DTR. I know they view him as at the 248 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 8: very least a really good backup for the future. 249 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 7: He just hasn't played like it. They want to give 250 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 7: him a full week. 251 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 8: Of practice, They want him to play to his potential. 252 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 7: This is the time to see it. 253 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 8: He can earn a spot on the roster next year 254 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 8: with a good performance over the next couple of weeks, Mike. 255 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 9: For will Levis, there's great ability there. The questions that 256 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 9: we heard about him coming into the draft process have 257 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 9: really played out, and some of the decision making has 258 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 9: not been great. I mean, go back to what week 259 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 9: was it. It was early in the season we were 260 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 9: reading lips with Brian Callahan, who didn't deny what he 261 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 9: said to Will Levis. 262 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 2: Basically, what are you doing? 263 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 9: There is maybe an explativor or two in there on 264 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 9: that one. So the frustration has been there all season long. 265 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 9: He has shown spurts of being the guy that they 266 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 9: believe that he could be when they drafted him and 267 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 9: added him to the mix in Tennessee, but just not 268 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 9: enough consistently they're saying they're not giving up on him. 269 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 9: You're making the decision here with the record as it 270 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 9: stands right now. Tom, you saw that draft order that 271 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 9: we saw on that cluster of teams. It may very 272 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 9: well depend on where they land as to what will 273 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 9: Levis's future winds up being in Tennessee or elsewhere. So 274 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 9: that's something we're going to watch as we move going forward. 275 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 9: But I do understand the decision by Brian Callahan to 276 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 9: make the move right now to Mason Rudolph, I. 277 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: Do want to correct myself. 278 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: Six takeaways for the Bengals last week, only four of 279 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: those were Will Levis turnovers. Will Levis does not need 280 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: my help to turn the football over. Won't get that 281 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: opportunity this week. Mason Rudolph going to get. 282 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: That start elsewhere. 283 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: The Detroit Lions Sday sept back last week in a 284 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: lot of different ways, with a variety of different injuries, 285 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: but maybe just the tiniest ray of hope for running 286 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: back David Montgomery, who told reporters last night that he 287 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: is hopeful he still could play again this season. 288 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: Despite that mcl tear. 289 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell said today he is getting a third opinion 290 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: on his knee. 291 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: That's why he's not an injured reserve yet. So stay tuned. 292 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: Perhaps we have not seen the last Montgomery this season. 293 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: EDVIL Network's got a triple header next Saturday, December twenty eighth. 294 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: Check it out Chargers at Patriots, Broncos and Bengals Cardinals 295 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: at Rams. 296 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: Three games that all. 297 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: In their own way, have playoff implications, including one in 298 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: the NFC West the potentially could decide who's in first 299 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: place headed into week eighteen. It all happens on NFL 300 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: Network Saturday, December twenty eighth. Bill's running back Ty Johnson 301 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: joining us right now on the insiders time. 302 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 2: Of all games? 303 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: Okay, have all games to get micd up for or 304 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: you're facing the lines in their place. You have one 305 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen receiving yards in that game like that? 306 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: That's perfect. Did you manifest that that this was going 307 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: to be a big game for it? 308 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 5: Absolutely? 309 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 11: It just came down to that self belief and have 310 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 11: no doubt that I was going to go in there 311 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 11: and execute. And I definitely appreciate coach j B and 312 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 11: Josh having that trust in me to be in those 313 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 11: positions to execute. 314 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 8: So I was looking at your bio a little bit 315 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 8: before we started talking to you. 316 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 7: And there's a lot of stuff on. 317 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 8: There's a lot of teams, three different teams, and you 318 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 8: get the Lions, you get the Bills, you got the Jets, 319 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 8: You've been waved, you've had an injury, you've been through 320 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 8: a lot. Have one hundred and fourteen yards receiving really 321 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 8: a breakout game with the entire country. 322 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 7: Watching, Did you take a minute to just. 323 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 8: Go like wow, or I can't believe this or like, 324 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 8: take me into your mindset after all this happened for. 325 00:14:53,640 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 11: You, Really, it was just more so why not me? 326 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 11: And why not this happened for me? When I'm put 327 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 11: in the work. I've been consistent and just been putting 328 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 11: into the hours day in, day out, weekend, week out, 329 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 11: and just going out. 330 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 5: There and having that no unwavering. 331 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 11: Doubt, just believing in myself at the end of the 332 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 11: day and going out there and balling. 333 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 5: There's nothing else to it, just having that confidence. 334 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: I remember after your rookie season and Bob Quinn, who 335 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: drafted you to Detroit when he was the general manager, 336 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: told me he was going through just kind of like 337 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: the difference makers on the team, and he was like this, 338 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: Ty Johnson is a difference maker for what he does 339 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: in terms of being a space player and the different 340 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: ways that they could kind of engineer things here. What 341 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: did you learn through that process? From Zien was mentioning 342 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: going through different teams, being a part of things, having 343 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: trials and tribulations. What did you find out about yourself 344 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: that's made you the player you are? 345 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: Now? 346 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 11: Really just having ebbs and flows, obviously having to go 347 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 11: through being a young player, trying to figure it out, 348 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 11: and obviously being on different teams, just trying to take 349 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 11: my game to the next level every single year, no 350 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 11: matter whether it's on special teams, pass pro, the past, game, 351 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 11: run game, just being a student of the game, just 352 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 11: trying to elevate myself every single year. I think that's 353 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 11: been the biggest part of it through this whole journey 354 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 11: of my career, and being able to be blessed to 355 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 11: be around guys that have been doing it for a 356 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 11: long time and guys that just get it and know 357 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 11: how to communicate what I need to do and just 358 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 11: put it in simpler terms for me to just execute. 359 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 8: Not to type cast you at all, but Sean McDermott 360 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 8: did compare you to James White, who's one of one 361 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 8: of the best sort of third down passing back whatever 362 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 8: you want to call it, running backs who can catch 363 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 8: really of the last decade or so. Did you have 364 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 8: any sort of inspiration for this role or how much 365 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 8: of you focused on just the actually being able to 366 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 8: catch the ball. 367 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 7: Part of it. 368 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 11: It's so funny talking about just folks on being catch 369 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 11: the ball. One of my big bros tyrun He always 370 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 11: told me like, hey, you. 371 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 5: Need to make sure your hands are good. So ever 372 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 5: since before I came to. 373 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 11: The Leak, he was always trying to make me catch 374 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 11: like a hundred balls after workouts everything like that, and 375 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 11: just being able to be a guy on the field 376 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 11: where if I'm in the open space, like you can 377 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 11: get the ball thrown or just run the ball at 378 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 11: the end of the day. So it's just been one 379 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 11: of those things I toned in on those skills, like 380 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 11: we're professionals at the end of the day, but you 381 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 11: you never lose sight on elevating your level of play, 382 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 11: whether it's in the run game, your hands, like all 383 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 11: those things. 384 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 5: Just it's fundamentals, you know what I'm saying. 385 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 11: So it's just focusing one of those things, no matter 386 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 11: for at the highest level, you just got to keep working. 387 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 5: On the same day in the day out. And you know, 388 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 5: it's just been one of. 389 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 11: Those things that started to show over the past week 390 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 11: or so, and very grateful and it's so funny, you know, 391 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 11: coach talking about James D. White, you know, obviously great player, 392 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 11: but one player that I've been watching, I watched a 393 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 11: little bit of his highlights every single week is firm 394 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 11: and Thommon, So like crazy seeing him catch up on everything. 395 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 11: It's just full circle. 396 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: Really, that's fantastic. So so tell me about this this 397 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: Bills team. 398 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: And obviously, you know, Thurman was a part of a 399 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: bunch of teams that got very very close to winning 400 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: at all, weren't able to get there. That's kind of 401 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: been the journey for the Bills over the past. However, 402 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: many years here of being close being added, go back 403 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: to the offseason, everybody was talking about who wasn't there anymore? 404 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: It was Diggs is gone and Gave Davis has gone, 405 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: and all the veterans on defense they are gone. What 406 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: has allowed this version of the Bills that is younger, 407 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: has a lot of new faces to seemingly get better 408 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: each week and be peaking at the right time here. 409 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 11: You know, going to the off season, and also we 410 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 11: lost a lot of great guys. You know, that's the 411 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 11: rearview mirror, and the rearview mirror is there for a reason. 412 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 11: You don't look back, you know what I'm saying. You 413 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 11: got to keep looking what's in front of you. And 414 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 11: you know, I think every guy just came into the 415 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 11: building where to contribute, ready to have fun and be 416 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 11: for one another and I think that's really been the 417 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 11: biggest thing, is guys or Lena on the line for 418 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 11: each other, Like there's no egos, there's no like, oh 419 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 11: I need this or that. Has really just been guys 420 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 11: wanting to contribute anyway possible and help the team win. 421 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 11: That's all it really has been. This whole time in 422 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 11: the Bob has been so high. It's been great, and 423 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 11: you know, you got great players, but we've got great 424 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 11: people in the building, and that's what make the team go. 425 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 8: You know, our good friend Tom right over there does 426 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 8: a poll every year. 427 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 7: Just came out of an article on NFL dot com where. 428 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 8: Several executives rank who they believe should be the MVP. 429 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 8: This might be surprising to you, but your good friend 430 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 8: Josh Allen is currently leading that pole. 431 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 2: Good job, Tom. 432 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 8: You have had a front row seat to see one 433 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 8: of the best quarterback seasons we've seen in a couple 434 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 8: of years, certainly one of the best this year. What 435 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 8: have you noticed about Josh Allen, either how he plays, 436 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 8: how he works, how he acts. What has stood out 437 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 8: to you about your quarterback? 438 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 5: And we've seen it day in day out. This is 439 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 5: a guy who's. 440 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 11: Laying it on the line extending plays, doing he needs 441 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 11: to do to get either first down, get the touchdown, 442 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 11: extend plays. And it's just so hard to put those 443 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 11: that into words. To see what he's doing. He's a 444 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 11: generational quarterback. It's amazing to see, Like I get yelled 445 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 11: at we're standing around on the field when he scrambles 446 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 11: and he takes off, he's running and you know he 447 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 11: chased after the ball. But it's like, man, how can 448 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 11: you not just sit there and being all when you 449 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 11: see this guy making plays whether you're showing the ball 450 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 11: using his legs, and I think it's just a great thing. 451 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 11: He just comes in with a great, big smile and 452 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 11: he's just ready to do what we need to do 453 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 11: to get to win and put push the team forward. 454 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 11: So when you see him, it's just like he puts 455 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 11: in the work, he puts in the hours, and he 456 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 11: just has spun with it. At the end of the day, 457 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 11: he's not trying to prove anything. He's just being present. 458 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 11: Word speed are in the game speak for it. 459 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: So I asked you at the start of this interview 460 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: if he would manifest did that big performance last week 461 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: against Detroit. You have a clothing line and a pail 462 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: brand called manifest Tell me about this. 463 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: The inspiration for why that's a passion for you. 464 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 11: Really, my best friend Ike started being a pail and 465 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 11: he was really good showing me all these things, and 466 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 11: I really wanted to like follow this guideline up how 467 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 11: you made this brand, because I just wanted to create 468 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 11: something that people love and it actually meant something. And 469 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 11: just the manifestation, you know, from being in high school 470 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 11: to the college to the NFL, you know, speaking and 471 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 11: believing at the end of the day. And it's just 472 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 11: one of those things. I love attraction just speaking everything 473 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 11: and having that energy out there to bring everything you 474 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 11: want to your life that you're able to bring is 475 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 11: it's there, like you know, just speak for it and 476 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 11: put yourself in a position to receive that from the universe. 477 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 5: So it's really just been one of those things. 478 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 11: I guess we're going to create something for a lot 479 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 11: of guys to you know, when they wear it. It's just, 480 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 11: you know, I feel it like I'm I can do 481 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 11: these things as long as I put myself in a 482 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 11: position to receive you know, all the accolades or the 483 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 11: money in the world or you know, a job, anything, 484 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 11: Because it's not just for footballs for people, Let's have 485 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 11: a regular nine to five. You know what I'm saying, 486 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 11: And it's just you know it's out there. You know, 487 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 11: you just got to speaking and get after it and 488 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 11: put yourself in a position to receiver. 489 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: Best luck with that, best luck for the rest of 490 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: the season. Time manifests nothing but good things here for 491 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills moving forward here, you're getting real close 492 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: that Super Bowls less than two months away. 493 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: Thanks a lot for coming on, man, We appreciate. 494 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 5: It absolutely things for having me. 495 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, man, Bill's running back Ty Johnson. We all 496 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: know the Bills and Chiefs. That's been the rivalry in 497 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: recent years. And the quarterback and that other team is 498 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: a little bit banged up. But will it impact him 499 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: on Saturday against the Texans. We'll discuss it next on 500 00:22:50,480 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: The Insiders. Padam Mahomes got crumpled up like a day 501 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: old newspaper in that game last week. But somehow, despite this, 502 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: it's still just it hurts me to watch this full 503 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: participant for a second consecutive day in Chiefs practice. Certainly 504 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: seems like he's tracking toward playing on Saturday against the Texans, 505 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: which apparently is music to defensive tackle Tim Settle's ears. 506 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 6: Pats a little banged up, so I don't know if 507 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 6: there he's gonna play or not. 508 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 5: I hope he's mobile enough because we come in Arrowhead. 509 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: Welcome in our Jane Slater to the conversation. 510 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm with me, Tom Pellicero and Mike Garafullo here on 511 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: the Insiders, Jane. We know Mahomes is one of the 512 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: rare guys. Andy Reads talked about his loose ligaments and 513 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: all that stuff. A lot of guys wouldn't be able 514 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: to play. Seems like he's going to play. You're gonna 515 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: be covering that game. What more do we know? 516 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 12: Yeah, this can be an interesting one just because of that, 517 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 12: Tom and Mike. 518 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 9: It was Patrick Mahomes this week. 519 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 12: Who said, look, I'm a competitor. He wants to play, 520 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 12: and as we've seen, he's not a guy that typically 521 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 12: wants to come off the field. But we are talking 522 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 12: about a mild high ankle sprain. But as you said, Tom, 523 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 12: we sallim practicing for the second day as a full participant. Now, 524 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 12: with that being said, Mahomes did stress the importance of 525 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 12: not wanting to put his team in a bad situation. 526 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 12: He understands the importance of being able to be mobile 527 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 12: to get outside the pocket. He said he didn't want 528 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 12: to limit the playbook, and he says, that's why this 529 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 12: thing is gold. Probably go all the way up until Friday, 530 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 12: maybe even Saturday. 531 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 9: For he makes this determination. 532 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 12: You and I both know that's. 533 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 9: Not what's going to happen. 534 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 12: We'll probably have an idea of this one tomorrow. But 535 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 12: he says if he can't, of course, they've got Carson 536 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 12: Wentz there. Still you have to consider. Look, I know 537 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 12: that they are angling for that first round. By they 538 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 12: get a win over the Steelers and the Texans. They 539 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 12: get that, as Mahome sees it, that gives him time. 540 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 2: To heal up. 541 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 12: But do you risk having this thing get worse? I mean, 542 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 12: we're talking about an offensive line that has struggled this year, 543 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 12: that has got him sacked thirty five times, and now 544 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 12: you're dealing with a really potent pass rush with the 545 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 12: Texans coming into town. 546 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, you've got the Texans who have a strong front seven. 547 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 9: You know they're gonna have a plan. Tim Settle says, 548 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 9: they've got a plan. Settle down, Tim, is what our 549 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 9: producer is suggesting, Like, what's the upside to Riley and 550 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 9: these guys like, you don't need to give them Bolton Bore, 551 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 9: just get after them the day they gave you off 552 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 9: the warn them that you're coming. But yes, this is 553 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 9: a tough Texans front that's only getting stronger, right Yeah. 554 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 12: I mean they don't have Jalen Peachrie of sure, so 555 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 12: they don't have a zees. But they did get Matt 556 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 12: Christian Harris, who last week had a really big game 557 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 12: against the Miami Dolphins. This is a guy who's known 558 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 12: for some of his elite speed, one of the fastest 559 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 12: linebackers in the league. And oh, by the way, you've 560 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 12: got second year player too too, who is approaching the 561 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 12: one hundred tackle milestone. Said, they really good about no 562 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 12: plan right now, and they're looking near to this one. 563 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 12: They are readying themselves to play against Patrick Mahomes, even 564 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 12: though we haven't gotten that definitively here. 565 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 9: He said. 566 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 12: The one thing that they love about Mahomes and the 567 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 12: one thing you've got to plan for him is the 568 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 12: fact that he's got such a great relationship with his receiver. 569 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 12: Since says, they really know how to stop on our 570 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 12: route and get into that open zone. So we'll see 571 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 12: how this one goes on Saturday. But this should be 572 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 12: a really good one when you consider this offense matching 573 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 12: up against this defense. When you look at them both offensively, 574 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 12: their numbers are pretty similar. 575 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: Guys, should be a great one. Jane, enjoy that game. 576 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: Look forward to talking with you again soon. Of course, 577 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: a lot of our viewers are going to be watching 578 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: that game. 579 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 9: And guess what if you can't get enough of Snowman 580 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 9: Wipes on TV, excuse me if you can't get enough 581 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 9: of the Chiefs on National TV, Boyd. 582 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: We got to trade for you Chiefs Steelers followed by 583 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: Ravens Tech. Since it's all on Netflix. If your kids 584 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: won't watch a game without the possibility of seeing Taylor 585 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: Swift in the crowd, if they just want to watch Beyonce, 586 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: there's something for everyone on Netflix on Christmas Day, ian. 587 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 8: Al, I guess theoretically door number three, you could watch 588 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 8: me on the pregame show. 589 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 9: Whatever. 590 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 8: Anyway, justin Herbert received some good news injury wise today. 591 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 7: We've been talking about. 592 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 8: The ankle injury that he has been battling limited participant 593 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 8: in the last couple of weeks. He was a full 594 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 8: participant today off the injury report officially good to go, 595 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 8: which of course is excellent news for the Chargers, not 596 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 8: as good news for the Broncos. There's so much at 597 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 8: stake for this game. Look for the Broncos, I mean, 598 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 8: it's pretty simple, right they could win, just win winning in. 599 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 8: For the Broncos, that's as real as it gets. For 600 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 8: the Charger they need a little more help win plus 601 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 8: Colts and Miami losses. So look, both these teams team 602 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 8: have a very very realistic chance to get in. But 603 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 8: as I bring in Bridge at Cony actually going to 604 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 8: be covering that game kind of across the way for 605 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 8: where she is right now at so far, this is big. 606 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 8: We are, bridget at the point of the season where 607 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 8: these games mean as much as they possibly could. 608 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: How are both these teams. 609 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 7: Handling the hype and just gearing up for what should 610 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 7: be a huge game? 611 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 13: And you said it, the sense of urgency is so 612 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 13: high for both of these teams. I asked Justin Herbert 613 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 13: yesterday what's it like to be playing meaningful football in 614 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 13: December and Jim Harbo's first year, and he said, it's 615 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 13: always great to have that opportunity. That's what you sign 616 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 13: up for, right, Like that's what all the long days, 617 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 13: the hard the sweat, the tears in training camp, that's 618 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 13: what that's preparing you for. But they still have three 619 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 13: more games, and yes, the playoffs are right there in 620 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 13: front of them, but they have to make sure they 621 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 13: actually perform in these three games. Like you said, the Broncos, 622 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 13: you win, you're in. The Chargers you win. You need 623 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 13: some losses from the Colts and the Dolphins, but then 624 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 13: if that happens, they get in as well. I talked 625 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 13: with offensive tackle for the Broncos, Mike McGlinchey this week, 626 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 13: and he told me that there is so much confidence 627 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 13: around this team. Think about it, Ian. They haven't been 628 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 13: to the playoffs since Super Bowl fifty that year, twenty fifteen, 629 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 13: twenty sixteen season. That's almost like a decade ago, okay, 630 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 13: and so they have a chance to do something they 631 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 13: have not done. The city of Denver, he tells me, 632 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 13: is believing in them. He said, it's so fun walking 633 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 13: around town playing at Mile High on Sundays because there's 634 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 13: this fire that's been ignited within the locker room. I 635 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 13: asked him what he thinks that's from, and he said, well, 636 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 13: it starts with our rookie quarterback bon Nix. He said 637 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 13: the way that he plays, saying he's so confident just 638 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 13: from what he does on the field and the way 639 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 13: he prepares. Because of that confidence that he plays with, 640 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 13: that has ignited the football team. And when you have 641 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 13: a guy back there that you believe in and that 642 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 13: you believe that you have a shot every week to 643 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 13: go out there and win a football game. And he said, 644 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 13: that's what we found in bon Nicks. I also asked him, 645 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 13: are you surprised that this guy's a rookie. He's like 646 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 13: in the NFL, you either got it or you don't. 647 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 13: Doesn't what year you are. 648 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think bo Nicks has got it, 649 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 8: got it. 650 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 7: The Broncers are like. 651 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 8: The biggest house money team right now. I mean, they're 652 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 8: not supposed to be here. They're playing great. I can 653 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 8: I can understand the optimism there. Let's go to the 654 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 8: other side of the ball, the team that they are facing. 655 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 8: Our good buddy, Denzel Perman, friend of the show, also 656 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 8: spent some time on the hanging out in the weight 657 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 8: room there with the Chargers when I was in training camp. 658 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 8: Good dude, he is back, which I think is pretty 659 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 8: good news for this Chargers defense. 660 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 13: Uh, yeah, they need some help on defense. Did you 661 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 13: watch that game against the Bucks on Sunday? Hopefully you didn't, 662 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 13: or hopefully you had your eyemask on when the Chargers 663 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 13: were on defense, because they had arguably their worst game 664 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 13: on Yeah, you don't have an imask, You don't sleep 665 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 13: with one. 666 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 2: You gotta get one. They had arguably their worst. 667 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 13: Game of the season, giving up a season high forty points. 668 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: But also the run game. You see it right there. 669 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 13: They gave up more than two hundred yards on the ground, 670 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 13: a big boost for them. 671 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 9: Denzel Perriman, who. 672 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 13: Has not played the past four games, I asked him 673 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 13: yesterday at his locker what the plan is. He said, 674 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 13: the plan is to play. He's been a little bit 675 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 13: more cautious obviously with the groin injury because he doesn't 676 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 13: want to tweak it. But he believes that he will 677 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 13: play tomorrow night and get this. Without him, they have 678 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 13: been second worst in run defense over that four game stretch. 679 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 13: When he was with the team, they were more kind 680 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 13: of middle of the pack. And yes, the Broncos don't 681 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 13: run as much as a typical team. I think you 682 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 13: know we know that because of what bon Nicks can do. 683 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 13: But still He's like I've been watching from the sidelines. 684 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 13: I'm so eager to get out there and I can 685 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 13: bring some energy to this defense, whether the Broncos run 686 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 13: or not, just his his presence on the field is 687 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 13: going to be huge for this team. Who coaches and 688 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 13: players told me this week Ian that they feel like 689 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 13: what was lacking Sunday was their lack of energy. 690 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 8: It's hard to imagine one player being making that much 691 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 8: of an impact on defense, but perriman really really good player, 692 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 8: certainly does fit that. 693 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 7: Bill Bridget, thank you so much. 694 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 8: I'm sure we'll be hanging out with you tomorrow's you 695 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 8: gear up for that big time game. 696 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 7: Cannot wait for that. 697 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 9: We had an MVP debate going on for a while 698 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 9: here regarding a number of players. Seems like it's down 699 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 9: the Josh Allen versus Lamar Jackson as we head into 700 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 9: the home stretch. Here, one of the guys who used 701 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 9: to catch passes from Josh Allen, Stefan Diggs, Now he 702 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 9: has no reason anymore. He's not a team that anymore. 703 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 9: So this is an objective opinion here he has on 704 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 9: Good Morning Football on who should be the MVP? 705 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 2: Do you think Josh should win? 706 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 5: MVP. 707 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 14: It's impressive. I kind of somebody had said something to 708 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 14: me on Twitter and I was like, he definitely should win, 709 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 14: and he's been bothering. I mean, obviously there's no secret 710 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 14: that Josh Allen is amazing, you know, as far as 711 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 14: like seeing them gaming in a game out he's making 712 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 14: those plays, like you just it's not new to me 713 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 14: at all, he was saying, it's not new to nobody 714 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 14: in the league. I feel like it's just his respect 715 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 14: kind of coming forward circle, finally getting that credit that 716 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 14: he deserves. He's playing at a very high level. I 717 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 14: feel like I feel like. 718 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 5: He deserves it. 719 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 14: You under saying the only person that you could you 720 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 14: can kind of compete with is Lamar Jackson's playing out 721 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 14: of the ball too. 722 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 5: But damn it, it's. 723 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 14: Gonna be some tough It could be some tough decision. 724 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 5: Towards in the year. 725 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 14: Whoever making those decisions, because the boy's going crazy, Well. 726 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 9: Not according to those polled by our Tom Poula Sero 727 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 9: as we're calling him today, paul A Sarah, good job, 728 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 9: Andrew Groover, our guy who organizes all our information. That's 729 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 9: how you referred to him in the rundown because This 730 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 9: was his poll from anonymous general managers saying, Josh Allen 731 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 9: right now is the runaway MVP. There was a Saquon 732 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 9: Barkley moment. How about Joe Burrow sneaking in there? Burrow 733 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 9: could be your comeback Player of the Year once again. 734 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 9: But Barkley? Uh, will a running back ever get this 735 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 9: award ever again? Who knows? Ever is a really long time. 736 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 9: We don't have a ton of time though, So we've 737 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 9: got Steve Wischen here. We want to get right to 738 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 9: him on this breakdown right here and how you're looking 739 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 9: at They give me the case for Josh Allen to 740 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 9: win MVP here. 741 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 10: Well, if the case all started in the offseason, Mike right, 742 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 10: they get rid of Stefan Diggs, they get rid of 743 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 10: Gabe Davis, they get rid of Mitch Morrise his center, 744 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 10: several veteran plays leave, and you're saying, who at the 745 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 10: skill position is going to move the ball other than 746 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 10: Josh Allen and maybe James Cook. Well, they only have 747 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 10: the second highest scoring offense in the NFL at almost 748 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 10: thirty two points a game. Josh Allen's got eleven rushing 749 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 10: tds and no they're not touch push tds. Mike and 750 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 10: he also you know when you look at some of 751 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 10: the passing numbers that he has right there, twenty five 752 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 10: passing touchdowns but just five interceptions. Oh and by the way, 753 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 10: they're eleven and three one of the best teams in 754 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 10: the NFL. So I think this is one of the 755 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 10: reasons why, because he is doing things like this and 756 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 10: so many other things to lead an offense. Mike mccollins 757 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 10: is the Buffalo Bills leading touchdown receiver with five. Six 758 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 10: of his receivers have multiple touchdowns. That is a quarterback 759 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 10: who's playing it at the highest level. 760 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 9: I think along the way, you need an MVP type moment, 761 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 9: and we just saw it there in the snow with 762 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 9: him reaching for the pielon just an image in your 763 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 9: head as you think of an MVP season. Josh Allen 764 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 9: certainly provid that Lamar Jackson provided that when he has 765 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 9: won the MVP award in the past. Remember that's spin 766 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 9: in the open field against the Bengals and plenty of 767 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,760 Speaker 9: other plays, and he's made a ton of this season. 768 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 9: I've covered that game on Sunday and he was extremely impressive. 769 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 9: Of your thoughts on Lamar Jackson this season. 770 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 10: Well, look Lamar Jackson's gonna get hurt by the fact 771 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 10: that he has won it before, and I think that's 772 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 10: going to be held against him. 773 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 2: But Mike on this show, you were with me. 774 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 9: This is the biggest reason. 775 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 10: Why he's probably not going to get it is Tarah Austin, 776 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 10: the Steelers defensive coordinator. When we asked him who's their 777 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 10: bigger focus, Lamar or Derrick Henry, He's like Derek Henry's 778 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 10: won a Lamar is one B. So people are going 779 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 10: to say, you know, that's going to be working against it. 780 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,959 Speaker 10: But Lamar, when you look at his numbers thirty four 781 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 10: touchdowns but three interceptions, thirty five hundred and eighty yards, 782 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 10: he's got bigger numbers in the passing game than Josh Allen. 783 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 10: But when you factor in Allen's rushing touchdowns, things that 784 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 10: we used to say about Lamar, they're pretty much. 785 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 2: Even right here. 786 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 10: So we have to wait till the season plays out. 787 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 10: But I think the fact that Lamar has won it 788 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 10: and Josh Allen has not played us Allen is playing 789 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 10: at such an incredible level is why things are tilted. 790 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 10: And that scale by that general manager Anonymous that we listened. 791 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 9: To and those interceptions that Lamar Jackson had this season. 792 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 9: You've seen the clip going around where they're not necessarily 793 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 9: his fault, they're off the hands of as receivers or whatnot. 794 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 9: So that's even more impressive when you factor that in. 795 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 9: Steve weis always impressive. Great stuff from you this evening. Now, look, 796 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 9: you can have the MVP and then the Offensive Player 797 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 9: of the Year can be different. We've seen running backs 798 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,919 Speaker 9: sneak in there. So these guys are making their case 799 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 9: right there. Saquon Barkley and Derek Henry. Barkley's numbers a 800 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 9: little bit down this past week, so that hurt his 801 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 9: pace with regard to his chase for Eric Dickerson, but 802 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 9: he's always capable of I don't know, like two hundred 803 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 9: or so yards and Derek Henry is always capable of 804 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 9: like ninety. 805 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: Five on one play. 806 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 9: Speaking of the Eagles in Saquon Barkley here Clutch Sports. 807 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 9: The players on the Eagles, represented by Clutch along with 808 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 9: the Eagles, had this shop with a pro at dick 809 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 9: Sporting Goods the other night. PLA NFL players always doing 810 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 9: great stuff in the community, but particularly the time of 811 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 9: the year. The Staley Park Panthers youth football team from Camden, 812 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 9: New Jersey. Surprised by these Eagles players that are represented 813 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 9: by Clutch with a one hundred and fifty dollars gift 814 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 9: card for each player in the opportunity to spend time 815 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 9: with Josh Sweat, Milton Williams, James Bradberry, and Byron Young. 816 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 9: So those players stand up for your great work that 817 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 9: you did in the community there. Appreciate what they're doing 818 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 9: down there in the Philadelphia area. I always appreciate what 819 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 9: Michael f Florio does for my fantasy team, which has 820 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 9: helped me draft and set my light up every single week. 821 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 9: We're still alive, Florio. He's gonna help me and everybody 822 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 9: else set their line up for Week two of the 823 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 9: fantasy postseason. 824 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: Time now to go inside with NFL Fantasy Live and 825 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: our buddy Michael f Florio joining us me, Tom PILISERA 826 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,439 Speaker 1: Wee and Rappaport Mike Carofolo here on the Insiders. 827 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 7: Michael f. 828 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: We are in the playoffs, baby, we're headed into semi 829 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: final week. We need your perfect lineup, and I want 830 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: to start with when you're looking at that lineup and 831 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: you're going, man, this is one of the guys, I've 832 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: ridden all the way here. What are a couple of 833 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: big names you should be wary of at this state? 834 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 15: This would have been crazy any point in the past. 835 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 15: But I think Travis Kelce is a trap this week. 836 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 15: He has averaged just nine fantasy points per game in 837 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 15: his last five. All of the tight end touchdowns seemingly 838 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 15: go to Noah Gray, the short design catch and run 839 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 15: plays are now going to Xavier Worthy, and the Texans 840 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 15: fourth fewest yards and fantasy points allowed to tight end, 841 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 15: So John new Smith, Hockinson Andrews, and Joku Sami would 842 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 15: play over him. I'd even consider like Dalton Kinkaid, which 843 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 15: again would have sounded crazier earlier this season. 844 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 9: And then Brock Perdy. 845 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 15: If you have Rock Perdy, your season might be over 846 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 15: because he has fewer than four fantasy. 847 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 9: Points in two of his last three games. But what 848 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 9: blew my mind? 849 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 15: One passing touchdown or fewer in nine of his thirteen 850 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 15: games this season, and the matchup might look appealing on paper, 851 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 15: but the Dolphins have allowed the second fewest fantasy points 852 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 15: per game to quarterbacks. Josh Allen is the only one 853 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 15: to finish top ten, So Drake may Aaron Rodgers and 854 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 15: a sneaky other option. 855 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 9: I would consider over him this week. 856 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 7: I don't know the heck you guys were talking about. 857 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 7: I haven't thought of fantasy football about a week since 858 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 7: you know I eliminated. 859 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 8: Anyway, give us some that's not funny, Give us some 860 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 8: sneaky starts for this week for you. 861 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, just said there was another sneaky quarterback. 862 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 15: It's Cooper Rush this week against the Bucks who buy Cooper. 863 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 15: Rush has multiple passing touchdowns in three of his last 864 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 15: four games and has finished top ten in two of those. 865 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 9: But it's all about the matchup. 866 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 15: The Bucks have allowed the second most fantasy points per 867 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 15: game two quarterbacks and have allowed a top twelve finish 868 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 15: in nine of fourteen games. So Rush I'd play over party. 869 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 15: Also Patrick Mahomes and c. J. Stroud and then a 870 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 15: Mer Abdulla who led the Raiders and snaps and had 871 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 15: seven targets last week, nineteen fantasy points in that game. 872 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 9: He hit seventeen in the game. 873 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 15: Prior to Sincere McCormick taking over, And again it's about 874 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 15: the matchup. Jaguar's third most fantasy points per game to 875 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 15: running backs, top five in catches receiving yards, and touchdowns. 876 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 15: I'm using him as a Montgomery replacement in one league 877 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 15: and a McCormick replacement in another. 878 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 9: I've thought about fantasy football playing because Michael le f Florio, 879 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 9: the team that we are co gms. 880 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 2: Of, I elevated you. 881 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 9: He used to be assistant GM, now you're co GM three. 882 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 9: A shootout, Oh man, the Sincy defense, we could have 883 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 9: had another defensive touchdown on the Sincy defense dropped the 884 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 9: one yard line. Anyway, we're marching on, so give me 885 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 9: some locks. Guys ready to explode this week. But hold on, 886 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 9: let me pick him up as you say him go. 887 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 9: I don't think these guys are going to be out there. 888 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,919 Speaker 15: But James Connor look multiple times on this very show 889 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 15: in the summer I sent to draft him in this season. 890 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,919 Speaker 15: I was saying to trade for him because I thought 891 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 15: he was going to become a league winner. 892 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 9: And that is what is happening. 893 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 15: Last week overall RB one with thirty one Fantasy points. 894 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 15: Now he gets the Panthers, who've allowed more than three 895 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 15: hundred and seventy five rushing yards, more than any other team, 896 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 15: most touchdowns and fantasy points. And then Mike Evans, He's 897 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,720 Speaker 15: two hundred and fifty one yards away from a thousand 898 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 15: with three games to go. The Bucks are going to 899 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 15: four speed him the ball to get to that number. 900 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 15: Cowboys have allowed the most passing yards since week eleven. 901 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 15: Baker Mayfield top four in passing yards and touchdowns. 902 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 9: It's all coming together. I think Mike Evan eats this week. 903 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: Michael, thank you very much. Look forward to chatting with 904 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: you again next week. Dan Quinn, well, Dave, he's got 905 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: the Commanders in the thick of the playoff. Chase might 906 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: have a kicker issue or not. Congrants to Commanders. Kickers 907 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,760 Speaker 1: Greg Joseph and Zang Gonzalez both missed practice today because 908 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: they were having babies, well, their wives were having babies. 909 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: Otherwise we would have given more than fifteen seconds. 910 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 2: For this story. We see it tomorrow on YouTube. Good night, everybody,