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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Hello everyone, welcome to the Almost

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Speaker 1: Famous podcast. I am joined by Ben, who literally goes

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Speaker 1: on an airplane and stops at a new city every week.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys want to hear about Ben's travels because

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Speaker 1: I know we talked about it every week, but like,

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Speaker 1: I'm truly mind boggled how somebody flies around as often

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Speaker 1: and how many different foundations you're involved with. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: very nice. I was just actually so lest we talked.

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Speaker 1: I gotten back from Ohio and then Jessica and I

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Speaker 1: which is very nice because I don't always get to

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Speaker 1: travel with my wife. We just got back from Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: We went to Baltimore this weekend because, as I've mentioned

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Speaker 1: many times and I can't mention enough, my best friend

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Speaker 1: was diagnosed with ALS and so this was his big

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Speaker 1: fundraiser was in Baltimore because his wife was a Balti

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Speaker 1: More Ravens cheerleader and so the Baltimore Ravens do a

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Speaker 1: lot to make the event special and so Jessica I

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Speaker 1: flew out for that this year for the Conley cause.

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Speaker 1: If you want to still support, you can still do

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Speaker 1: that at their go fund me pager visit them on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: But it was really cool. Um, so we did a

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Speaker 1: quick trip out there and now I'm home for a week.

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Speaker 1: And it's weird when a week feels like a long time,

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Speaker 1: but it does feels like a long time. I am

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Speaker 1: going to Nashville for a Humanity and Hope United if

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Speaker 1: anybody wants to join. It's open to the public. Fundraiser

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Speaker 1: in Nashville next week and so we have a couple

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Speaker 1: of board meetings and then a fundraiser, so I'll be

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Speaker 1: there for that. But yeah, it's open to the public

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Speaker 1: and we have like a really good In fact, she's

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Speaker 1: very well known, an incredible chefu minique is I think

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Speaker 1: it's chewhan is how you say here? She's like all

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Speaker 1: over the food network. I know who you're talking about,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's so weird. What there's a girl that

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Speaker 1: works at Audrey's who has an internship there at her

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Speaker 1: restaurant in Nashville, but she's leaving us in a couple

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Speaker 1: of months to go. Yeah, I guess she's incredible. I've

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Speaker 1: never had her food, obviously, I know her from television,

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Speaker 1: but she's coming to do with the food at the event.

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Speaker 1: So that's gonna be super fun, super fun for that.

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Speaker 1: Very cool. No, do you have any high tips for

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Speaker 1: us when it comes to the airport, Like, do you

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Speaker 1: like you must have some advanced knowledge? I thought that

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Speaker 1: I got on planes a lot, but like, yeah, what

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Speaker 1: do you do obviously pre check? And then do you

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Speaker 1: have Clear and pre check? Oh? Well yes I have both,

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Speaker 1: but these days I just go through the pre check

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Speaker 1: line because Clear has backed up. Everybody got Clear. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why and where and how. Some credit card

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Speaker 1: must have done some type of promotion because everybody has it,

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Speaker 1: and that line's longer usually and takes longer than preaching. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's because they say, like you're like, oh the lines long,

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Speaker 1: we can help you get three of that right now today,

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Speaker 1: just sign up right here. So that's why, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's why I think so many people have Clear now

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Speaker 1: that that's why you need to have Clear plus pre

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Speaker 1: check because that's a whole new line. Now. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a great line. Um, it's a good line. Here's

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Speaker 1: here's my tips. I'll I'll run through we you know,

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Speaker 1: a few years ago we did a segment called ben Bitches.

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Speaker 1: It was awesome. I have a few I missed it

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Speaker 1: too top down or something. No, we just ran out

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Speaker 1: of things to get mad about. I don't I don't know. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, we stop that because I couldn't come up

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Speaker 1: with anything else that I was upset about. Most of

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Speaker 1: my irritability comes from the airport, and so I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: start with my three tips to just make everybody's lives

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Speaker 1: obvious one for most people. When you're on an airplane, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you exit by rows, typically front to back. Sometimes there's

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Speaker 1: the person in front of you, no matter how slow

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Speaker 1: The second thing, when you're at baggage claim, don't stand

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Speaker 1: because I do have a couple, would be try wait,

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Speaker 1: this is bad. What if this is a tip to

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Speaker 1: the airport. Well, these are the things you shouldn't do.

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Speaker 1: These are very obvious things you should not do airport manners.

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Speaker 1: My final tip, it's not really a manner thing, it's

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Speaker 1: to eat on the plane. Our bodies don't really digest

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Speaker 1: If you can grab some food, and then like nuts

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Speaker 1: for as long as that flight is you'll just feel better.

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Speaker 1: Stay hydrated to those are some life answers for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe the most important thing I can tell you about

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Speaker 1: flying maybe my best tip for flying. I live in Denver, Colorado. Denver, Colorado.

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Speaker 1: as a great airport. It's a creepy airport, but it's

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Speaker 1: a good airport. Um. I don't know what it is

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Speaker 1: they hold in the smell like it smells like people

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Speaker 1: Possibly it's a closed terminal, Possibly is a closed the gate.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna walk around looking for a bathroom that doesn't

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Speaker 1: have humidity and stink. Well, just that it doesn't get

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Speaker 1: so where would those be? You say, Okay, this sounds

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Speaker 1: a long time to find this. No, it's not. What

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Speaker 1: the farthest bathroom from that main entrance of the airport.

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Speaker 1: Because the only people going down there are people with fights.

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Speaker 1: to those bathrooms. Find the one farthest away. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the best for you. You're gonna have the best experience.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be the cleanest. They typically don't get used.

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Speaker 1: This is for a number two because I'm not no anything,

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Speaker 1: well anything, yeah, whatever you want. First off, you're standing

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Speaker 1: when you pee, So why do you care about it?

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Speaker 1: A good point? Well, just because, um yeah, just because

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Speaker 1: the sanitation my final thing. Actually I'll close you here,

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Speaker 1: and most of it goes around bathrooms. Um is don't

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Speaker 1: bring you know what really grosses me out, Like it

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Speaker 1: boosters um, the COVID exists. It. You know, flu exists,

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Speaker 1: at a pretty high volume. I'll just say that sometimes

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Speaker 1: That's okay with me. Here's the thing that I don't

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Speaker 1: Do not bring your open lid like drinks into the bathroom,

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Speaker 1: what you need to do. It's disgusting, it is, and

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Speaker 1: it's disgusting for me. I'll get over it. I just

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Speaker 1: in the airport in general, and your travel is going

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Speaker 1: the plane if you can. It makes it so much faster. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but Ben, I have a few things to make comments

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Speaker 1: of Based on all of that, you said that the

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Speaker 1: Denver Airport is creepy. I like it because it has

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Speaker 1: a great food selection. Sure does, especially in that United terminal,

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Speaker 1: which I think is the only one I've ever been in,

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Speaker 1: because it's like such a huge hub. Now there's two

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Speaker 1: reasons why it's creepy. There's like this weird horse you

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Speaker 1: want to tell everybody with the weird eyes as you enter,

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Speaker 1: and nobody knows, like what it is you are like, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if you know this yet, but

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Speaker 1: our restaurants are going up in the Denver Airport. I

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Speaker 1: you can come visit some of our some of our

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Speaker 1: favorites at Culinary, Creative, Little Shot Out too Cool. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So now Denver did a whole renovation. Some people this

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Speaker 1: will be boring. I'll go through this quick because you've

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Speaker 1: you don't fly now. As decorations, they've put gargoyles up

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Speaker 1: makes it weirder. That makes it so much weirder. They're

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Speaker 1: a big joke, nobody will continue to ask questions. But

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Speaker 1: video to get fully caught up on, like underground like

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Speaker 1: like step by step, there was something interesting that they

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00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: were doing and it played with where they were. I

427
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: just think that it was a great date in getting

428
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 1: to know somebody's personality, like get your flirt on, you know,

429
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 1: I do know a couple of notes here, Ashley to

430
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 1: kick it off. I'm surprised that you liked this episode,

431
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: especially with kind of the um just this. What we

432
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: felt like was the slowness in the first couple of

433
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: couple episodes, like I'm so I'm surprised when I talked

434
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,479
Speaker 1: to you today that you said down You're like I

435
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 1: really liked this episode. I expected you to be more

436
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: on the side of that was just a weird two

437
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 1: hours that could have been like I saw funny tweet

438
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: this said, this could have been all done an email

439
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: like it because it was so much efertually. Um, so

440
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: it's interesting me. We'll get into that later. I also

441
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: just want to know for my own pride that I

442
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: did mention since week one that I felt like Greer

443
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 1: was going to go home earlier than expected and that

444
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: it wasn't going to work out like we think it would.

445
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: I actually said it last week. Still there, still there,

446
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 1: I get that, But can we start to now see

447
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: that maybe, just maybe she's not a top three or

448
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: a top four in the eyes of Zach okay for sure? Okay, sure,

449
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: hanging by a thread? What I what I liked about

450
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: this episode was but I truly didn't know how it

451
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: was going to play out. In two ways. One, we

452
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: didn't stick with you know, we weren't going to be

453
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: able to stick with the formula with him being sick,

454
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: So it was kind of like a, oh, what are

455
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 1: they going to do? How are they going to work

456
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: this out? And that was keeping me interested. And then

457
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: it was also the fact that I had no idea

458
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: who he was going to eliminate, especially come that cocktail party,

459
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: that digital cocktail party, because it seemed like he was

460
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 1: driving with everyone except for Greer, and I will admit

461
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: I thought Greer was gonna be gone because I couldn't

462
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: even think of anyone else to eliminate. There. I was like,

463
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: possibly Mercedes, but I thought we just hadn't seen much over. Yeah,

464
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: we just hadn't seen much over. This episode did bring us.

465
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: I think that What Will Go Down is one of

466
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: the most iconic comedic scenes in Bachelor history, at least

467
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 1: it was for me. I was laughing really hard at

468
00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 1: somebody else's expense, which I love. When Gavey was walking

469
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: through with all of her shopping bags and grew was

470
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: sitting in front of her room, I thought that was hilarious,

471
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: Like the fact that Greer got hit by a bag

472
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 1: as Gabby was walking down the hallway with because she

473
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: was so upset with the date and she thought that

474
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: date would be perfect for her. And then Greer just

475
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: happened to be sitting in front of Gabby's room, so

476
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: I had to stand up and move so that Gabby

477
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 1: could bring her fifty bags into the room. I thought

478
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: was hilarious. I was dying to know whether it was

479
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: staged or not. How did you stage it? I mean,

480
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: I think it's like they tell her, They're like, go

481
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 1: to room four twelve, and then like she gets there

482
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: and then they're like, oh, oh, Gabby, I'm sorry it's

483
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,479
Speaker 1: this one. This one. Yeah. Well still, even if it

484
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 1: was even if the producers within two minutes were smart

485
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: enough to do that and pull that off, it's brilliant

486
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: and it's amazing television. It was good. It was good,

487
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: and I know that people are rolling their eyes watching

488
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: Greer respond to this. The fact that she had to leave,

489
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, the group part, the fact that she's crying

490
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: about tea because she had a She has a tea tattoo,

491
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: and tea means a lot to her. And I's so

492
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: I so understand that it seems silly, but I've been

493
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 1: in this situation and it's not that silly. Like, imagine

494
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: your favorite just imagine while you're competing for a guy,

495
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: and then you get to experience what you've always wanted

496
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: to experience with a guy, but then you're not the

497
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: one experiencing it. It's just it is kind of It's

498
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: it's just a little devastating. It's silly and devastating, But

499
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: it's this kind of thing that I'm sure Greer was

500
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: laughing at watching herself last night. Did you laugh at yourself? Oh? Yeah.

501
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: But the thing is, I think a lot of people

502
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: didn't understand that I was totally poking boy of myself.

503
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: I was being very self deprecating when I decided to

504
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: dress up like Cinderella and have like my little mice

505
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: when Jade was out on the date, like, I was

506
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: making fun of the whole situation already in the situation.

507
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: Did I feel extreme envy when she came in for

508
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: the fitting of the dress and was putting on the slippers. Yeah,

509
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: for sure, I was like, I'm super jealous, but like

510
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: I also realized it was like all it was. It

511
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: was like it was just fun. It was like being fun.

512
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: And I don't think that I don't think that Greer

513
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: necessarily it was fun envy. I don't know if that's

514
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: super weird. It's only something you could probably experience on

515
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: the Bachelor. She does have a tattoo of tea like

516
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: me wanting a princess date. That doesn't seem to be

517
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: extremely unique. I think like every girl would like to

518
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: have a princess date to go shopping to try in

519
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: those dresses. It's kind of just like ultimately everybody's dream date.

520
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: But with Greer it was so specific, like the girl

521
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: loves tea? Who loves tea? Like that A lot of

522
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: the customers that buy tea from generous. I think you've

523
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: come across somebody who has attack too of a teacup.

524
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: No no, no, and I don't have a coffee being

525
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: on that leg? You know? Was it the date, Ashley

526
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: or was it the fact that Greer feels so left behind?

527
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: And there's okay? So this date could have been any date,

528
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, any date could have been perfect. This was

529
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: an incredible date, Like I had multiple different facets. It

530
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: looked like a lot of fun. I feel like at

531
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 1: this point I'm busy. It kept them having something new

532
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: to talk about the entire time, and that's what I

533
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: liked because I know that sometimes it's like, oh, big

534
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: activity and then dinner. But this like kind of kept

535
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: it continuous, and that's what I would have preferred while

536
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: being on the Bachelor. Anyway, enough of what I prefer, Well,

537
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: we care about what you prefer But I think at

538
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: this point in the season we see it every season

539
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: where the contestants are starting to feel left behind. They're

540
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: starting to ask the question, why haven't I gotten the

541
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: one on one yet? Does Zach not really care about me?

542
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: We had such a good connection four weeks ago, but

543
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: I haven't really seen him since then. What do I

544
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: do to stand out? Oh? Today? And then possibly every week,

545
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: you have somebody telling you this is your week, this

546
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: has to be the week that you get the one

547
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: on one. You're gonna get the one on one this week,

548
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: this is gonna be your time. And so when that

549
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: card is read and it's not you and you're then

550
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: on a group date, there is a massive amount of

551
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: emotion involved. There is even for you know, the guys

552
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: on my season, when I was on Kalen season, the

553
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: guys that weren't getting the dates. At first, it's fine

554
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: and it's cool, and then all of a sudden you

555
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: start to get kind of confused and sad and wondering

556
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: where to exactly do I stand. And so I think

557
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: that's where Greer's at. I think this could have been

558
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: any date and she would have been just as sad,

559
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: maybe not just as sad or there'd be like a

560
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: jealousy factor a little but east anyway, I totally understand

561
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: you're saying yes, But I also think the more you

562
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: focalize it, the more the less likely you are to

563
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: get that one on one would Yes, it's great TV

564
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: when somebody is freaking out. That's I mean, that's it is.

565
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: I would recommend anybody. Here's my tip. I don't know

566
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: how it happens every time, but if you are somebody

567
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: who's very upset or jealous or envious, as best as

568
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: you can, just hold it to yourself, like sit through it, smile,

569
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: sit in that room as she's talking about all the

570
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: things that they did, just so that you aren't the

571
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: center of attention that then they're gonna like pull that

572
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: emotion more out of you and make it a little

573
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: bit of a bigger deal than you even knew it was.

574
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: Just stay quiet, sit in it, be there, and then

575
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: move on. Yeah. That's great advice and one that I

576
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: have a very hard time following. And it's really hard,

577
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: of course, following that advice when you are a new

578
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: bee on the show. I think you kind of know

579
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: better once second or third time around. But yeah, so

580
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: she doesn't really know what she's doing, but she's making

581
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: a horrible mistake by vocalizing how bad she feels held back. Yeah,

582
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: there's just so well, let's talk about Gabby's connection. Yeah,

583
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: I would say this. I'm still keeping with my word.

584
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: I think there's zero chance that Greer and Zach end

585
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: up together, especially after how this episode played out. You

586
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna debate you here. Good. I think

587
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: that she's going to hang around for a long time,

588
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: and I think there's a reason we didn't see her

589
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: a lot in the scenes in the next episode. I

590
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: think they're really trying to set us out. They're really

591
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: trying to put us on a wrong path. I hope

592
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I kind of like grew. I like this,

593
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: she's emotional. I like this she's telling us how she feels.

594
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the smart decision, but I like

595
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: that it's happening, and I think she does care. Um,

596
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: we'll talk more about Greer as the episode ends. I

597
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: kind of feel bad. Form might be the unpopular opinion,

598
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: but yeah, we feel bad for her. I want her

599
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: to get her chance because there was something there, and

600
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: I know that we are jumping ahead again, but like,

601
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: let me just say this, she gets the rose, and

602
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: I think she gets the rose over the other two girls,

603
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: Kylie and Mercedes, because Zach's like, Okay, I've had such

604
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: a strong moment with her, and maybe the moments haven't

605
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: been like there haven't been a lot of those moments,

606
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: but I had that moment at some points, like hopefully

607
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: I can get another one like that. But I guess,

608
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: like with the Mercedes and Kylie, he probably just never

609
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: felt something that intense. Yeah, I think that's fair. Okay,

610
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: all right, so Gabby. I think Gabby shoots the top

611
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: of my list. I think Gabby goes ahead of Brooklyn

612
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: now and I think she's in my top three with

613
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: Katie kat and herself. Really yeah, I think he really

614
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: liked her. I was seeing some tweets and stuff that

615
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: like they had no chemistry maybe like they didn't have

616
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: like the sexual chemistry that he had with Cat last week.

617
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: But they have a good time together. I think he's

618
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: really looking for that. Yeah, they had a lot of

619
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: fun and she does allow him to be goofy, which

620
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: he is. He's made that very clear. She did make

621
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: a comment that I've never heard before, and this might

622
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: be a new thing. But she goes, I'm not a kisser,

623
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: I'm a cuddler. Cuddler, yeah, is that a thing. Yeah,

624
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: I think I get more out of I personally get

625
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: more at this stage in our relationship from cuddling than kissing.

626
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: But I do feel like it's a little different when

627
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: you're at her stage of the relationship because I think,

628
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: like when it's new, you get more of a chemistry

629
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: vibe by kissing, and I also think you get more

630
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,239
Speaker 1: of a reassurance vibe while kissing, because it's just more

631
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: of a romantic thing. That's fair. I would like to

632
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: know anybody that feels like they would be in this

633
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: stage of the relationship more of a cuddler than a kisser.

634
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: I would just want to know more about that. I

635
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: want you to explain to me. I'm interested in what

636
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: that exactly, Like, why cuddling feels intimate to you, Why

637
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: that's what you would be drawn to. You know, it's

638
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: just interesting when you first meet somebody, there's a physical attraction,

639
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: there's a there's chemistry, and then you'd be like, I

640
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: just want to cuddle, Like, don't kiss me, just cuddle,

641
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: because that's kind of what I was hitting like, That's

642
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 1: what I was hearing there was I would much prefer

643
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: you just cuddle me, then I would you kiss me,

644
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: which feels different than any other situation I've ever heard antic.

645
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: It feels like she's craving safety and comfort in that,

646
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: and I think possibly she's thinking about a previous relationship

647
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: when saying that, because I think when you're in a

648
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: long term relationship, cuddling can feel give you a certain

649
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: level of closeness and then when it comes right right,

650
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: what do you feel like You've been with Jess for

651
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 1: so long, You've been kissing for you know, four years,

652
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: so like, would you rather cuddle or a kiss? Well,

653
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: I asked her this last night. I said, are you

654
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: a cuddler or a kisser? She goes, I'm both, And

655
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: I think that's like, yes, that's how we are. Like,

656
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: it's both. It's you know, we're not sitting in bed

657
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: at night and watching Netflix and just make it out

658
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: for you know, three hours. That's not how life works.

659
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: But you're both like both have their own specific place

660
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: and that's why I thought the comment was interesting. I've

661
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: just never compared the two I've seen, but I've never

662
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: seen those two things not be aligned in some way,

663
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: but very personal question. And this is funny because I

664
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: talk about this on the I Don't Get a podcast

665
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: a lot with Nas because she's never had a super

666
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: long term relationship and she imagines that like after being

667
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: together for five years like me and jured, that we'd

668
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: still like just make out on the couch randomly, do

669
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: you ingest when it's not leading somewhere else ever, just

670
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: make out for the sake of making out, and then

671
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: like you just go eat dinner afterward. No, yeah, I

672
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: mean we like kiss like I just she just left

673
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: for work and I gave her a kiss before she left, goodbye,

674
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: good night, all that. Yeah. Yeah, but we don't just

675
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: like teenage like sit on the couch and make out

676
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: and then be like that was awesome, Like, no, that's

677
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: not how life works anymore. It'd be cool, I got,

678
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: I'd be down, but it would definitely be like kind

679
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: of funny. We laugh. Yeah, I think I think that, Like,

680
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: I think that's cool and a thing when you're like

681
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: a teenager and it's new and hormones are raging and

682
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: you're like just any contact with them starting. Yeah, yeah,

683
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: and yeah, you're right, Yeah, when you're dating and starting obviously,

684
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: like you know, Jessica and I's situation was different and

685
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: so we spent a lot of time just kissing and

686
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: like sitting on the couch and all that and so

687
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: different then. But now it's kind of like, wait, you know, no,

688
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: this is this is not how we're spending our evening.

689
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: And if it is, like it's going somewhere, Okay, all right,

690
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: so now you understand now, I now you understand where

691
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: she's coming from. I think she's just talking thinking about

692
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: previous relationship and being like sure, yeah, I preferred to snuggling.

693
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: It was just an it was an interesting comment. It

694
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: was interesting. Should we move on to the group dates?

695
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: That was not a date? Um? Yes, I do have

696
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: one thing in my notes here. I want to bring up,

697
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: okay about this situation in general, and I think it's

698
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: a tell of Zach's Okay, we're able to kind of

699
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: understand him more now because we've seen more of him.

700
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: It's interesting to me when Zach chooses to confront not

701
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: like confronting like hey, you're going home type of way,

702
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: and when he doesn't, I feel like a comment like that,

703
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: especially with what we've seen from Zach in terms of

704
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: his desire to kiss. You know, starting night one, he

705
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: was kissing and he's been very kissy since then. That

706
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: you know, Greer again says Hey to him, something about

707
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: I can relate a little bit because I had a

708
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: sales job. I know what she was trying to say there.

709
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: It did not come off great, but I get what

710
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: she was trying to do. I feel like that was

711
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: just like a nervous, like awkward comment. She's like, I

712
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: get what you know. I had a sales job and

713
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: I got sick and then it made me nervous and anxious.

714
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 1: And he's like, no, it's not at all the same.

715
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm looking for my wife here. It's like, okay, semantics, Yes,

716
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, Zach, you are taking this

717
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: very serious. But he confronted that situation. It's interesting me

718
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,479
Speaker 1: that he did not confront Gabby on this comment when

719
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: she said I'm not really a kisser. Like, we didn't

720
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: really see much follow up from that. I mean, we

721
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: saw one question, but I'm surprised he didn't like dig

722
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: into that a little bit more because he has been

723
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: digging in to some of these comments and these questions

724
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: throughout the whole season. So it's interesting me when he

725
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: chooses to and when he doesn't. That was my comment.

726
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: Perhaps he did and we didn't see it, Sure, but

727
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: we didn't see it. But also at the same time,

728
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't feel as if there would be

729
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: a follow up. I just didn't feel that fair enough.

730
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's go onto the group date. Okay, group date.

731
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: So there was no group date. The girls went out.

732
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: They explored London. The complaining was hilarious, but I know

733
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: it was like complaining. I know how this thing works.

734
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 1: You know, you're they're interview in interviews and they're saying,

735
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: how upset are you? Like is this fun? Like are

736
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: you like glad you went out today? And they're like, well,

737
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: it suck because because Zach's not here, and you're like

738
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: and they're like, well, do you feel like it's like

739
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: even like you think that you should have even done it,

740
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: And they're like, well, a lot of it kind of

741
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: feels pointless. You know, I understand how the interview process

742
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: works and how we get this whole scene of them

743
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: being like bummed out about Zach not coming, but at

744
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like what do you want

745
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: from my guy? You know, it was weird you know

746
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: what was weird about this was I actually, no, I

747
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: want to say one more thing before I go on

748
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 1: to what was weird. First we see the complaining part.

749
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: Then we see the girls surrender to the fact that

750
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: Zack's not going to be there and they should make

751
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: the best of it. And I liked that scene when

752
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: they're in the bar, they're chucking beers. That was really fun.

753
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: That's what I would have hoped that they chose to

754
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: do with the day. And then it got weird when

755
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: the girls get ready and it look all beautiful and

756
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: they're at the night portion of the group day and

757
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: they're hoping Zach's going to show up, and then they

758
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: get the note that he's not feeling well still and

759
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: he's not coming. Now one, i'd be super frustrated because

760
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: I would have hyped myself up because I would have

761
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: known a big deal it was going to be to

762
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: see him. I would have planned what I was going

763
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: to be saying. It's just that anxiety level that you

764
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: have while preparing for the Bachelor is kind of something.

765
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: It takes up a lot of mental space, so I

766
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: would been annoyed about that. I would have also been

767
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 1: annoyed at the fact that they hadn't he get ready

768
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: so much, looks so nice, and then I wouldn't have

769
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: any man to see it. That would have been frustrating.

770
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: But the girls were so wacky because they like truly

771
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: were mad at Sack. Could you not did you notice this?

772
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: They were mad at him, like they're like, I feel

773
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: stood up. I feel hurt, and it's like the guy

774
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: really doesn't feel good, Like you're not being stood up

775
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: here a few comments. I'd be most upset if I

776
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: was a woman that I put on a dress that

777
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: now I can't rewear throughout the season because I don't

778
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: exactly ben thinking like a woman. I love it. Yeah,

779
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: you only have so much luggage space. I think you're

780
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: allowed to checked bags on the trip, on the on

781
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: the travels, and so how many dresses and outfits could

782
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: you actually put in there? Um and keep those good

783
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: stuff up front? Yeah, so I felt bad from there.

784
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: That's I hope they wear those dresses again. I would

785
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: respect them, Um, I would be proud of them if

786
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 1: they wore those dresses again. My second, I wouldn't remember

787
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: I would have I mean, I would have no clue.

788
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: My next is to their benefit and to the viewers

789
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: benefit because if you're following Twitter, people are like, wait,

790
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: Zach doesn't feel good and he's just leaving these women hanging.

791
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: At this point, they have no clue what's going on

792
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: with Zach. All we know is viewers, is that he

793
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: I mean, he said it, he feels jet lagged and tired. Well,

794
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: of course you do, buddy, Like that's what you signed

795
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: up for. You're gonna be tired in jetlagged through the

796
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: whole season. In fact, you're gonna be like eating weird

797
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: foods to this whole season. Your stomach is gonna be

798
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: jacked up, your mind's gonna be it with a tape worm.

799
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: So okay, a parasite. Yes, So at this point, now again,

800
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: this is at this point in the episode of what

801
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: we know and what we don't know, I'm even as

802
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: a viewer being like, what is going on with this fellow?

803
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 1: Like he needs to get there, he has to go. Really,

804
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: this is what you're thinking. You don't know that they're

805
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: totally dragging out a COVID diagnosis. I feel like they

806
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: knew the entire time. Oh, actually, I'm I'm in it,

807
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: like I'm in it by moment by moment, I'm just

808
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: going with what I know. I'm not over analyzing this

809
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: from this standpeck point, and I've heard Zach now speak

810
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: to it. So if he thought he had COVID, I

811
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: thought we would have heard him say, like, I wonder

812
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: if it's COVID. No, all he said was he's jetlagged

813
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: and he has like a bunch of cred in his head. Okay,

814
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 1: fair enough, you don't want to get the other women sick.

815
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: Fair good. But that's all we know. And so it

816
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: doesn't until the next scene that we find out he

817
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: has COVID. So I get that the women are upset

818
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: because I'm assuming they're getting even less information about Zach's

819
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: illness than we are as viewers. They just know Zack

820
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: doesn't feel good, and so they're hearing this and like,

821
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: does he not care to come? Now? The reaction of

822
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: he's standing us up, it's a little overblown, Like he's

823
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: not standing you up. You have to assume the best,

824
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 1: expect the best out of this guy. You know, there's

825
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: a lot of you there. He probably wants to be there,

826
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: so he's not trying to be a jerk here. There's

827
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: no really no room even for him to be a jerk.

828
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: As the bachelor, he has to go these dates even

829
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: if he doesn't want to go on this date, and

830
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: so you're assuming the best, and so I at that point,

831
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: once he didn't show up to the cocktail party, I

832
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: assume there's more to the story. So here's my conclusion. Yes,

833
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: I think they probably were upset. They probably didn't know

834
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: a lot about the situation. We knew more as viewers

835
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: than they knew as contestants at this point. I did

836
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: find it a little odd that none of the women there,

837
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: at least none of the woman we heard from, had

838
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: any concern about Zach's health, Like not one of them

839
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: was like very like concerned about is he doing okay?

840
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: They all just kind of like the only people we

841
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: heard from at least, we're all kind of on the

842
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: camp of like this dude just stood us up. I

843
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: got sit up this morning, and I got to sit

844
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: up tonight. That's interesting me that that's where their minds

845
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: jumped to it. I don't know if it tells you

846
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: how they feel about Zach, what they expect at is Zach,

847
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: but at least it tells you kind of where they're

848
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: out in the process and what they're feeling about the process.

849
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: I feel like there's some things chopped out because on

850
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: the show these days you have to I don't think

851
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: you don't have to quarantine in your room for like

852
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: days beforehand. But their COVID protocols are wild to the

853
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: point of Jared and I were visiting la a couple

854
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: weeks ago and we went to have lunch with two

855
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: of the producers, and then there was another producer that

856
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: was like up in his office and they're like, waved

857
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: to him. You know, she's gonna like get on the phone,

858
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: and we wave two him took a glass and I

859
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: was like, this is ridiculous. Let's just go up there

860
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: and all this study, like so he can meet Dawson

861
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: and we'll just say hi for like ten minutes in

862
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: the office. And they're like, no, you'd have to get

863
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: tested before going into the office. Like that's how the

864
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: insane the protocols are. And then there's they can't like

865
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,959
Speaker 1: have a certain amount of meetings, like you can have

866
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: like five, six, seven people in a meeting room, but

867
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: if the meetings beyond that, then they have to sit

868
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: in their office on zoom when the other person is

869
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 1: in the office next to them. That's how like tights,

870
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: their protocols still are on the Bachelor. So if I

871
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: were these girls and they maybe they're suggesting it and

872
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: questioning it as well, and we don't see it because

873
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: they wouldn't add that into the edit. But I'm sure

874
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: most of the girls are saying, like, he's got COVID.

875
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: You guys, you know he has COVID. You know he

876
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: has COVID, and they're not risking things, and that's I'm

877
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: assuming that there's chatter about that. However, Ben, yes, you

878
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 1: do say that it's weird that the girls don't mention

879
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: like how he's doing. I would have assumed that if

880
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: the Bachelor is not going on dates, he must be

881
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: really freaking sick, like he must really not feel good,

882
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: because that's never happened before. As a fan, you know,

883
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: you've never seen it before, and you know the bachelors

884
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: must have been sick and like, look at you, you

885
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: were diarrheing then entire time, but you showed up. This

886
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: guy must have been ill to not go on these dates. Well,

887
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: they're probably over. They're probably more sensitive to illness today

888
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 1: than they were during my time. Obviously because of COVID.

889
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: I don't you know, I don't know and understand, nor

890
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: am I really care of how strict they are with

891
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: their COVID policies. Now, I do find like that would

892
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: be weird, right, That's different than how we're functioning in

893
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: the normal world, And so that is interesting that it's

894
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: a studio thing, you know, it's not like a we

895
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: all know that's like a it's like a thing to

896
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: flash forward then, because the next segment here is when

897
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: we do find out Zach has COVID. Jesse tells the

898
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: women he has COVID. The reaction is, um, you know,

899
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: is more like solemn, like melancholy, like people are starting

900
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: to understand and feel it seems like they're worried about him. Um,

901
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: you know. They're then told that they're gonna have this

902
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: virtual cocktail party. There's some things I want to talk

903
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: about because I was super interesting and it is really

904
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: honestly interesting that they even decided to do it for

905
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: the show. H I am so to your point of

906
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: how strict they are about COVID policies, Okay, And everybody

907
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: has their own opinions on this, like, hope I'm not

908
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: being too revealing by saying that, but these girls are

909
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: getting like tested every day too, I'm pretty sure. Okay. Still,

910
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: so that no matter how you feel about the vaccine

911
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: and the boosters, you know, that gets into some political

912
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: some like religious, some like just own personal feelings, no

913
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: matter how you feel about COVID in general. Like, let's

914
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 1: just for the sake of this conversation, let's all agree

915
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: that COVID is a thing. Okay, that's the thing. It's

916
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: a it's it's it's something that causes people to get sick. Okay,

917
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: that's we have to start at this foundation just for

918
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: the sake of this conversation. Okay, if you want to

919
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: argue with me on that later, great, But for the

920
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: sake of this conversation, COVID is a thing that makes

921
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: people sick. Um, And with you mentioning how strict the

922
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: show is on their guidelines and on the testing requirements

923
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: and on how safe they are, it's very interesting to

924
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: me not that Zach got COVID, who knows how he

925
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: did it, but that there isn't really any like they

926
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: still went on a group date, Like if they were

927
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: that concerned about Zach having COVID and the fact that

928
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: he was making out with Gabby the night before exactly

929
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: why aren't they making the girls eyes alight? And Gabby

930
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: is in the room with all of these women. Then

931
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: that's where I'm That's when my analysis the show starts kicking,

932
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 1: and I go, did they really think Zach was that sick?

933
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: Did the show really expect him to have COVID? Because

934
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 1: if they did, there is zero chance in my mind,

935
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: with how strict they are, that they would have allowed

936
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: all these women to go out on this group date

937
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: around the city and into bars and onto buses and

938
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: be in the general public amongst each other if they

939
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: had any concern that COVID was spreading amongst their set.

940
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: That they never I don't know if they lied he

941
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: doesn't have it, he didn't have it? Well you, I

942
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: mean you would say that. I don't want to put

943
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: words in your mouth, but you would say. With the

944
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: Logan situation down in Paradise, you're still confused on if

945
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: he had COVID or not. I think Zach was sick.

946
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: Rumor has it that Logan had COVID? They didn't tell

947
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: anyone and he wasn't allowed back on the boat. Yeah,

948
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: so was Zach? I do think? I mean, I'm gonna

949
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: assume he had COVID like I think he did. I

950
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: don't think he felt good. I don't think he wanted

951
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: to lay in his hotel room in London. I don't

952
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: know why he wouldn't want to see these women. Maybe

953
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 1: he was just tired, but that would be like best

954
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: case scenario. I'm assuming he has COVID. I don't know

955
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: why the show would make it anything other than that

956
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,479
Speaker 1: there's no benefit to them doing virtual cocktail parties. There's

957
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: no like benefit there unless Zoom had a massive deal

958
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: to you know, on this show. I don't even think

959
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: they didn't even say Zoom they did so, and so

960
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: I'm just confused on how the process played out logistically

961
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: amongst the women, because we didn't see any of that.

962
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: It just felt like everybody went on his business as usual,

963
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 1: like Zach didn't exist, and that Zach had no contact

964
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: with these women. Honestly, Like, I am not at a

965
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: place to argue what was right and wrong. I don't know.

966
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: I just found it interesting and I found it odd

967
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: with how strict they are that this just the show

968
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: just kept going. Yeah, I guess they're like, what am

969
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: I supposed to do? I think the most puzzling thing

970
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: is that they're just cool with having Gabby around. You

971
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: would have thought at least quarantine Gabby. I don't know. Again,

972
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: like I don't know. I don't want to quarantine. You know,

973
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: these are like young, healthy people. But yes, according to

974
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: how strict they've been, you're I'm surprised. Anyway, moving on,

975
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: let's talk about the digital Let's talk about the digital

976
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: cocktail party, which when he suggested it, I thought it

977
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: was going to be like in lieu of a group date.

978
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: I thought this is a cocktail party, not necessarily the

979
00:51:54,520 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: pre rose cocktail party. I again audibly responded. When I

980
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: heard that it would be ending with the roast ceremony,

981
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: I was like, this is wild, it's intense. Well, we

982
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: should all be good at it now though, like zoom

983
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: date should be very common in this gating. Yeah, we've

984
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: all done it. We've all you know, FaceTime, we zoomed

985
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: over COVID, we made connections over. Yeah. Sure they should

986
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 1: be good at it. Yeah, but you know, it's awkward.

987
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how people didn't do this, Like, I

988
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: don't know how people go on first dates and stuff

989
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: without being in the same room. I find myself always

990
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: being more at a loss for conversation when I'm over

991
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: a screen. No, hilariously, we do a podcast. But it's

992
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: when people when when you're meeting people for the first time,

993
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: you know, when you have like a friend and then

994
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: their facetiming their friend and they're like, say hi, meet

995
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: my friend, and You're like, hi, I had no idea

996
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: what to say to you, but in person it would

997
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: just come way more naturally. Sure, Okay, well that's fair. Um.

998
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: I will say there is something that was brought up

999
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: that I've never publicly told anybody. Somebody I forget who

1000
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: said that they feel weird on this virtual group date

1001
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: because or virtual cocktail party because they can only see

1002
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: Zach and they can't see themselves. I find myself. I

1003
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: sit on Zoom meetings most of the day. I work

1004
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: from home, and so I probably have four or five

1005
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: meetings on Zoom or on some type of virtual platform

1006
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: a day, and well, I'm always finding myself looking at myself.

1007
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just less awkward, I don't know.

1008
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know if I'm looking at myself.

1009
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 1: I'm just more looking in the direction of myself because

1010
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: it feels more comfortable and Zach kind of responded said yeah,

1011
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: Zach responded like it was weird, Like, yeah, Zach thought

1012
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: it was like conceited. Yeah, So like, am I I

1013
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: mean I might be. I mean I I would be

1014
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: very open to anybody telling me any issues with myself.

1015
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm conceited, and maybe I'm the only one other

1016
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: than Greer in the world that doesn't find that weird.

1017
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: But I do it. I do, of course we do.

1018
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: And right now you're speaking to me sideways. Well I

1019
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: don't even see you looking into the phone sideways like this. Yeah, yeah,

1020
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: am I the only one definitely not looking at me

1021
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: in that case? So, but no, you're not weird. Right

1022
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: now currently, without even thinking about our conversation topic, I'm

1023
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: looking at myself while talking. I think I look at

1024
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: you when you're talking, and then I look at myself

1025
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 1: when I'm talking. Yeah. So why did Zach have such

1026
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: a problem with this? Is he just that he is? He?

1027
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: Are we seeing he is because he was sassy again

1028
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: with Greer when she was trying to say something nice

1029
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: and relate with him. So here is my comment going

1030
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: back to before. Is he just kind of I mean,

1031
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: he kept her around, But is he just getting like

1032
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: annoyed by her. It seems like he is, Yeah, he

1033
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: just doesn't like her right now. Yeah, I don't know.

1034
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: He was scary with her. I would have been like,

1035
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to self eliminate. I mean, I sense that

1036
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: she was so weird she wasn't gonna get a rose,

1037
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: but once she got the rose, she felt like she

1038
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: was right back in the game. Well she should feel

1039
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: like that. She should feel pretty powerful having such a

1040
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 1: crappy moment and then being able to rebound from it

1041
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: or have him be like still interested enough to like

1042
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: really give her the chance that she's been craving. I

1043
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: felt I felt bad for her. He was being cold,

1044
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: and we know that he's like this, Like I'm not

1045
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: saying he's a cold guy, but he can be cold.

1046
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: He'd be blunt, like every time people somebody's like I'm

1047
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: feeling this way, Like he doesn't sugarcoat it. He's like,

1048
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm feeling that way too, And that

1049
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: can be like intimidating. I feel like people don't really

1050
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: know how to respond to bluntness like that. Sometimes they're

1051
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: usually like taken aback, And I would have been taken aback,

1052
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: like the fact that he like wasn't giggling like I

1053
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,479
Speaker 1: think we'd all try to make the other person feel

1054
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: better in like the moment where like you and I

1055
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: just had the conversation about like where we look when

1056
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: we're on a video chat, and it was like kind

1057
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: of like, you know, it's not funny, hall, but it's like,

1058
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, a little bantery, and then you kind of

1059
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: can make fun of the other person. But he didn't

1060
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 1: like make fun of her in like a lighthearted way.

1061
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: And then this thing about her comparing him finding a

1062
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: wife to her last quarter sales and her trying to

1063
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: relate and yes, it not being of course as serious

1064
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: of a matter, but you know, in her heart, she

1065
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: was just trying to relate and start a conversation and

1066
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: he didn't like it. So what do you think, Well,

1067
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: I think if Kat would have said the same thing,

1068
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: he'd have been cool with it exactly. Yeah, been fine.

1069
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's telling to me that he's just

1070
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 1: not into it. You know, those kind of comments get

1071
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: you know this, like you're married, and people out there

1072
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: listening are married or in a serious relationship. If these

1073
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: types of comments are gonna throw you off, like it's

1074
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: going to be a long road in a relationship, like

1075
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 1: these things get said every day, Like I say something

1076
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: stupid as Jessica when I'm trying to relate with her

1077
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: or I'm trying to explain a situation to her, she

1078
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: says something to me that like is like what, like

1079
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Like you just you have

1080
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: to just like deal with it where humans were saying

1081
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: weird stuff and we're trying and especially in a situation

1082
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: where it's very uncomfortable in general, especially one it's uncomfortable.

1083
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: You're on the Bachelor. You're talking to somebody for the

1084
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: first few times on camera. Secondly you've been thrown with this.

1085
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna talk via screen, yes, and then they'll be

1086
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: on camera. This is so such an awkward situation that

1087
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna have like that nervous that like nervous energy

1088
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: where you just say stupid things to fill the void.

1089
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: And so I think it was I just think it's

1090
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: telling that he's not that into her, honestly, and that's

1091
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: okay if he's not, he doesn't have to be. But

1092
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: I just think it's telling that he's he's not that

1093
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: into her, because if you were into somebody, you would

1094
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: either laugh at off or be like wait, tell me

1095
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: that again, like you're crazy, like you stare your cell

1096
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: phone camera. I've never done that, like you would just

1097
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: play with it a little bit, because that's just humans

1098
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: being humans, trying to communicate with each other in a

1099
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: very weird environment. And so I just think he's not

1100
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: that into her, and that's well, that's why I have

1101
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: my theory that I don't think she's gonna be around

1102
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: much longer. Well then why do you think that, Like

1103
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: he didn't choose Kylie over her because he seemed to

1104
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: be enjoying Kylie. Um, that's a good question. I think

1105
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: there's more to Greer to figure out. I think there's

1106
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: a side of him maybe where he's going. Greer and

1107
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: eyes conversation was so awkward and weird, and we've had

1108
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: such a good history that I can't just say goodbye

1109
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: like this to her. But yet, like I know, Kylie

1110
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: and Mercedes aren't my wife, and so I can say

1111
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: goodbye to them. I feel like we're on good terms.

1112
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: But Greer, I'd like to try to do this in person.

1113
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: That's why I think next week, if I had to

1114
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: bet on it, I think Greer is going home, And

1115
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happened by him having a conversation

1116
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: with her in person. I can see the in person

1117
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: thing feeling like the appropriate mood for him. Yeah, I

1118
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: just got the first It was just weird. It was

1119
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: a weird I mean, And do I think Greers like relatability?

1120
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: There was off. Yes, I don't think your sales quarter

1121
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: and you're finding your wife of the same thing. I

1122
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: think probably Zach is extra sensitive, as we've seen, to

1123
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: this and to this situation being very important to him.

1124
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: I think he's holding that very close to his chest,

1125
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: and I think it is important to him. I think

1126
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: it should be important to him. So I do think

1127
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: she probably upset him a bit, and he probably he

1128
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: probably felt like you don't get it kind of thing.

1129
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: It was just probably what he wanted to say, really

1130
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: was you just don't get it? Do you like you

1131
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: don't get how important this is to me? But I

1132
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: think she was just trying to be sweet, and I

1133
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: think she was just trying to be relatable. That's why

1134
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: I would say that reaction was a little bit harsh.

1135
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: But if he's not into her, we'll find out. I

1136
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,479
Speaker 1: think the normal Okay, maybe normal isn't the right word,

1137
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: But I think the reaction that you and I would

1138
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: probably have would be like, wait, what are you telling

1139
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: you that you pick your last quarter and this is

1140
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's like, I appreciate you kind of

1141
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: coming up with something relatable, but like, you know, something

1142
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: a little bit more, or like, no, that's not hindsight,

1143
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: but hindsight, But hindsight is always better. And we, you know,

1144
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: we can sit here and be armchair experts and say

1145
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: this is what we would have done. I think if

1146
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: it was somebody I wasn't into and I was just

1147
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: kind of annoyed by in general, just for whatever reason,

1148
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: I probably would have been like, yeah, I might have

1149
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: had the same reaction as Zach. You know what, Ben,

1150
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: thank you for correcting me, because now I'm trying to

1151
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: think of it being somebody that I'm just over, yeah,

1152
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: like I don't like you anymore, or on the fence

1153
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: about you, and then you said it. I would have

1154
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: also been liked out too. I know myself, I just

1155
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: took myself back to dating whenever I was like, on

1156
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: a third date was somebody and I was trying to

1157
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: figure out whether or not this was really worth exploring,

1158
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: and they did something like that I'd be like grossed

1159
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: out or as they call it today, the ick the ick. Well,

1160
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: my guess is I mean I'm saying it. I don't

1161
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: think Greer is around past next week, which is unfortunately

1162
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: we haven't got to see a ton from the woman

1163
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: who got the first impression Rose, except for in this

1164
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: episode we got to see her a ton without me. Yeah,

1165
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: not the best look. Though Ashley to close out, Mercedes

1166
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: and Kylie did go home, the rest of them are staying.

1167
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: The kind of scenes for the future episodes do look

1168
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: very interesting to me. It does go back to our

1169
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: first assumption after seeing the preview, is that something happens

1170
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,919
Speaker 1: that shocks his world and that rocks the women's world.

1171
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: We see Zach apologizing, which is a big deal. We've

1172
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: seen it a few times now from the leads. We

1173
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: can go back to Clayton when he was apologizing, but

1174
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: we see Zach apologizing, which I think is a very

1175
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: big deal. He's apologizing for something that wrecks some relationships

1176
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: and right now we don't really know what that is.

1177
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: We're getting a hint that he is intimate with somebody

1178
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: in outside of kind of the normal format and that

1179
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: really upsets some people could be that. We saw that

1180
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: with Clayton, but then the rest of the season does

1181
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: look emotional. We're getting into kind of the nitty gritty

1182
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: of this season where it starts to get very interesting,

1183
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: where relationships are really blossoming. Those that blossom sometimes don't

1184
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: work out, and that pulls at our heartstrings. It pulls

1185
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: it Sack's heartstrings, it pulls it the women's heart strings.

1186
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: So a lot to look forward to coming up. But

1187
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: it leads me to my and you've kind of already

1188
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: answered it, but we just to be clear. Actually, after

1189
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: seeing this episode, moving into the next week's episode, who

1190
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: were your top three four, Zach? Like I said the

1191
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: top of the show, we got Katie, Cat and surprisingly

1192
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: now Gabby. I will say that if there's drama with

1193
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: anyone in the future, it looks like it will be Cats.

1194
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: According to this snippet from the scenes from the next episode,

1195
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna break that boy's heart. Okay, my top three four, Zach.

1196
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: At this point our Cat still Brooklyn and Charity Cat

1197
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: Brooklyn and Charity. Okay, yep, I can agree with that.

1198
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: I would probably put Charity at four right now. Yeah,

1199
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: I think she's still there. I don't think we've got

1200
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: to see a ton from her, But I think she's

1201
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: just I don't think we're seeing a ton from her

1202
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 1: because she's gonna be a big player on this season

1203
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: and she's gonna be around a long time. Yeah, I

1204
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: think we've seen a decent amount from her for somebody

1205
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: who hasn't had a one on one yet. Sure, sure,

1206
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: I would imagine a runner one's coming. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1207
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: all right Bachelor headlines after this break, yeah, right off

1208
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: his break. Really, I want to say, though, Ashley, with

1209
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: our top three, well, there's a lot of women that

1210
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: we feel like have strong relationships. Because we'd even mentioned Aeriel,

1211
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: we did not, I mean I didn't mention Gabby, I

1212
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: didn't mention Katie, and so if we add ours together,

1213
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: most of the women left we feel like have a

1214
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: chance with Zach, which is interesting for this point in

1215
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: the season that's typically not the case. And so yeah,

1216
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some deep formed relationships. I like it.

1217
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: I like this. But that's why I thought this was

1218
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: a particularly engaging episode because I really didn't know what

1219
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: was going to happen at the Rows ceremony, and I

1220
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: really don't know what's going to happen in the future,

1221
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: and it's kind of exciting to have so many front

1222
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: runners and not like one horse, one horse in the game.

1223
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 1: All right, Bachelor headlines are coming up right after this break.

1224
01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: Bachelorette alum Eric, who dated and was with Gabby at

1225
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: the end of their season, is dating model Elizabeth Turner

1226
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: after the split from Gabby Ashley, I mentioned to you

1227
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: that this is shocking to me because years ago, like

1228
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: years ago before Jessica on this podcasting, Yeah, you asked

1229
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: who is my celebrity crush, and I said Elizabeth Turner. Yeah,

1230
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: So this is weird to me, like very odd that

1231
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: this is happening, because I think I said even then,

1232
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think a lot of people

1233
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: know where she's like a model, and I never had

1234
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: any contact with her. So then I see Eric's dating

1235
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's a weird full circle moment for me. Okay,

1236
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: so Eric seems to be dating her Eric as in

1237
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:47,919
Speaker 1: Gabby's Eric. Eric. Sure, he posted something on a heat

1238
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: She posted something on Valentine's Day and he reposted it.

1239
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 1: It was a picture of the two of them kissing

1240
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: and it said Valentine Valentine. They underneath it, so I

1241
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: think we can say that they're in a committed relationship.

1242
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: A couple months ago, he said to Okay magazine after

1243
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: he and Gabby broke up, that he wants to find

1244
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: his best friend, someone he can vibe with every day,

1245
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: a partnership where they can lean and support each other

1246
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: through the highs and lows, someone who's open to adventure,

1247
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: but also for the occasional white lotus binge in one

1248
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: sitting in a fiery romance because at the end of

1249
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: the day, I'm a hopeless romantic. So we don't really

1250
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 1: know much more about their relationship. But she is a model.

1251
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: She is signed with One Management in New York City.

1252
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: She hasn't about a million Instagram followers, and it's a

1253
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 1: girl that has a little bit of a track record

1254
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: in Bachelor Nation. If you google her name, it'll pop

1255
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: up that she also had a something something perhaps with

1256
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: Tyler Cameron and didn't you, sir, there was someone else

1257
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: rumor as she did a Leonardo DiCaprio. Oh yeah, maybe

1258
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: not Bachelornation, but even bigger than that, Leo. So all right,

1259
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 1: what's our next headline? Ben, that's a big headline. That's

1260
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: an interesting one. I did not expect Eric to be

1261
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 1: popping up with somebody that had dated Leonardo DiCaprio, that

1262
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: that was not on the Bingo card this year. The Bachelor,

1263
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: Brooklyn speaks out after revealing she was in an abusive relationship.

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Speaker 1: If you listen to her episode where she spoke about

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Speaker 1: this with Zach, there's a lot of courage in her statement,

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Speaker 1: and now she's speaking out after the show to the public. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So she got on Instagram after last week's episode. She said,

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Speaker 1: I'm so overwhelmed with the outpouring of love and support

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Speaker 1: from everyone. It does not go unnoticed and it is

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Speaker 1: even more appreciated than anyone will ever know. Well, uh,

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Speaker 1: still just a ton of courage by Brooklyn, and it

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Speaker 1: was a big deal for so many, and so many

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Speaker 1: reacted in such a way of relatability and support for Brooklyn.

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Speaker 1: Well switching gears a little bit. There is a there's

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Speaker 1: a battle going on amongst reality television dating shows. The

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Speaker 1: headline is this, Nick Lasher says it doesn't get and

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Speaker 1: I quote more authentic than Love is Blind after shade

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Speaker 1: by Bachelor host Jesse Plummer. All right, Ben, this sounds

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Speaker 1: a little bit like the headline is a little bit

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Speaker 1: juicier than the actual quotes are here. I don't even

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Speaker 1: think that Jesse really shaded him at all. That's just

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Speaker 1: like one of those words that tabloids love to use

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Speaker 1: to make more click bad. Right, Okay, so this is

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Speaker 1: what Nick said. He said, I don't think it gets

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Speaker 1: more authentic than Love is Blind. The whole premise of

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Speaker 1: the show is authenticity. It's getting to know someone for

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Speaker 1: their true self, their real self, and then introducing the physical,

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Speaker 1: so certainly a different angle into finding love. I would

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Speaker 1: that Love Is Blind is probably the most authentic dating

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Speaker 1: show we've ever seen that ends at the altar, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, I understand how it seems like Nick is

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Speaker 1: maybe shading the show there a little bit, especially when

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Speaker 1: he says the show ends at the altar, because can

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Speaker 1: you think of any other dating show that ends at

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Speaker 1: the altar besides The Bachelor and Love Is Blind. Jesse's

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Speaker 1: response is the Bachelor was first. I think a big

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Speaker 1: part of The Bachelor is authenticity and really trying to

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Speaker 1: get back to what the core of the show has

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Speaker 1: always been about and what it's supposed to be about.

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Speaker 1: So it sounds like there's a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: battle of authenticity in reality TV. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: anything any feelings are hurt here. Next headline is this ABC,

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Speaker 1: and this blew up my Instagram this week with tons

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Speaker 1: of messages from you all asking what I thought, not

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Speaker 1: even nothing about it. But the ABC denies reports they

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Speaker 1: are considering bringing back Chris Harrett to Harrison to save

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Speaker 1: the Bachelor and replace Jesse Palmer. As in I quote here,

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Speaker 1: the show is on life support two years after racism

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Speaker 1: scandal sent Chris packing with a ten million dollars payoff.

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Speaker 1: All right, I saw these rumors swirling on social media

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Speaker 1: last week, and I think some of us may have

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Speaker 1: gotten a little bit excited to hear that there may

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Speaker 1: have been a chance at Chris coming back. But ABC

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Speaker 1: squashed the rumor within hours. Don't have much info about it.

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Speaker 1: All I can say is that there's an insider out

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Speaker 1: there that says that everyone is aware that the Bachelor

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Speaker 1: is on life support, and I guess out of just

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Speaker 1: that statement, a lot of people were like, the best

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Speaker 1: way to spark the show back to life would be

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Speaker 1: to have Chris back, and maybe it got out of hand,

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Speaker 1: but ABC is denying that there are any plans to

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Speaker 1: bring him back. Final headline of the day. Emily Ferguson

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Speaker 1: shares stunning maternity photos. In thirteen weeks, we will be

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Speaker 1: holding our beautiful baby boy. These are the cutest pictures ever.

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Speaker 1: You have to check out Emily Ferguson Carlson's Instagram. I

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Speaker 1: can't believe the baby is going to be due in

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Speaker 1: about thirteen weeks. It's crazy, but it's so beautiful Emily

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Speaker 1: and her husband. Definitely go and check it out. Emily

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Speaker 1: says she's not having that pregnancy glow as I insisted,

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Speaker 1: and everybody knows that I did not have. But she

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Speaker 1: does look stunning and you can see other Bachelor Nation

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Speaker 1: comments underneath there, like from Kendall Long who says absolutely

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Speaker 1: glowing babe, and then Emily's sister says, mom and dad,

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Speaker 1: I cannot handle. So definitely go check out those pictures.

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Speaker 1: They're adorable. What a cool time. Marriages are forming, babies

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Speaker 1: are being born, life is continuing, and yes, the Bachelor

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Speaker 1: is as well. Next week, we'll be breaking down another

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Speaker 1: episode of this season right here on the Almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 1: You can count on It. Ashley and I will be

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Speaker 1: here and I'm intrigued for the rest of this season,

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Speaker 1: but until then, I've been been, I've been Ashley. See

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Speaker 1: y'all by. Followed the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous

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