WEBVTT - Happy 25th Anniversary Gilmore Girls 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:04.080 I Am all in again. 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:10.480 Oh let us you. 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:22.360 Hi Am all in Again with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:26.960 The date is October fifth, two thousand. The WB is 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:30.240 turned on and you hear of the song. There she 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:34.240 goes with a beautiful brunette walking down a quaint little 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:38.239 town street of stars hollow, popping into a diner and 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.440 begging for more coffee from a guy in a backwards 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:46.360 hat and flannel shirt. This was the beginning of Gilmour Girls, 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.519 the show that twenty five years ago led into our 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:55.240 hearts with its fast talking mother daughter duo relationships and friendships, 0:00:55.760 --> 0:01:00.200 and a small, quirky town that felt like home. What 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.960 do you want to celebrate with you by taking a 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:05.920 look back at some of our most memorable guests of 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:09.800 the podcast. Let's dive into the behind the scenes stories 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.920 of how it all came together. Was some of your 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:19.800 favorite stars my Low vent Emilia as Jess Mariano. How 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:21.679 did we meet? Well? Do you remember the first time 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:22.080 we met? 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:26.080 Oh? Man, I don't remember the first moment, I think 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.720 I very much, just remember that first day of filming. 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.840 What I remember is just diving right in like like, 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:36.639 no pleasantries, no bullsht, to be like this is Scott, 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:38.200 this is mine, Like this is we're gonna find this 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:41.759 is gonna work, you know, and too what was always 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.679 funny to me was, dude, you and I were always 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:46.679 like really cool and engaged and had a lot to 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:50.760 talk about. But of course we're playing these characters that 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.360 you know, Jess was. He was a punk kid who 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:57.480 didn't want to hear it from anybody. And you know, 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:59.720 Luke was losing his mind with this kid that he 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:03.240 got saddled with from his sister. And and you know, 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:07.000 could who you and I were could not have been 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:10.560 more opposite than who Jess and Luke were. But also 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.720 where Jess and Luke kind of got to, I think 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:17.960 ultimately was closer to who you and I were in 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.640 terms of like like relationship and whatnot, you know, because 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.520 I think I think, you know, Jess grew up, just 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:25.880 learned some lessons, and Luke had been through some stuff 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:27.440 and that's all fascinating. 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:31.000 Would you do it again if they wanted to do 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:34.440 some more episodes You're in life part sure? 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:36.200 I mean, the thing the thing is this is like 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:38.800 I can't ever get away from it. You know, It's 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:46.880 it's for me knowing that like you and Lauren and 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:50.600 Alexis and probably just about everybody else in the show 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:53.639 would show up, and on top of it, it'd probably 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:57.560 be Dan and Amy there writing their asses off. It's like, yeah, 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:01.720 why wouldn't I if it would feel like it's there 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.600 for the right reason versus the wrong reason, like and 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:08.480 we all know those wrong reasons where shows think that 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.680 the show is bigger than the characters, so they'll try 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.440 and bring it back just to get more money. And 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.480 it's like, yeah, but are you are there really more 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:19.680 stories to tell? That's that's where I always kind of 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.280 go back to the nostalgia of the past, of stories 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.440 that we were a part of. Is are there still 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.680 more stories to tell? Have these characters grown to a 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.640 point where we actually really want to see more of them, 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.440 We want to understand where they've been, We're going to 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:37.320 discover something new. So I think if they did want 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.960 to bring it back, and if it was it was 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:41.720 Amy and dam at the Helm and you guys are 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.880 all showing up, I'd be a jerk to not show up. 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.160 Chad Michael Murray is Tristan? Do you think Tristan had 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:49.640 true feelings for Rory. 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:51.480 Understate? 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:52.000 Yeah? 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.160 Not even questions, not even questions. 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:59.120 What would you have liked to see them explore more 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.240 on the relationship or would you have liked to explore 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.560 that relationship with her more? Because I think that's one 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:08.080 of the things that I mean, it left me wanting 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:10.840 so much more. When you exited that series, you were 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.840 no longer there, So that relationship, to me, had the 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:15.760 most It was so fraught with potential. 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.839 Yeah, and well they built it. They built it, and 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.360 you know, I will take responsibility. 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:26.120 It's on me that you know. 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:29.080 I don't think the true depth of that relationship ever 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.039 came to fruition. It's on me. 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:32.520 I don't know. 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:35.040 There was an episode in season two where Tristan goes 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:38.559 off to military school in North Carolina, i e. Being 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.320 Dawson's Creek, i e. Being One Tree Hill where we 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:46.680 shot in North Carolina. That was military school, my friend. 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:51.240 As an actor, you know this, trying on different clothes, 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:55.800 different costumes, different walks, different talks, different fields, getting up 0:04:55.800 --> 0:05:01.520 in the morning and having a fresh shirt. It's different, right, 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.240 And sitting in the same character for too long can 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:07.400 get stagnant, and we always forget how blessed we are 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.160 when we're in those moments, right, because creatively, you can 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:14.000 get stifled. Not that the character was stifling. They did 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.839 a great job. But I was so young that I 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:19.840 needed to find out who Chad is, Who is Chad 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:22.200 is an actor? Where can I go? What can I do? 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.520 And you know, it led to me discovering so much 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.120 about myself that I genuinely wouldn't be the man I 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.719 was today. Without making that decision, you know, I could 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.200 have stayed there and spent six seasons on. 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:42.000 Oh so they offered you a full deal. 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.360 But yeah, we had the discussion, and for me it 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:47.960 was I had at the time, I had a deal 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.080 with Warner Brooks. When the opportunity came through to stay 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.240 on Gilmore and really see, I just wanted to know 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.360 more about me, and I said, you know, I'd love 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:57.840 the opportunity to continue to look and find out what 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:02.000 that thing is that is And One Tree Hill came 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:05.760 around and there was the choice between Lucas and Nathan, 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.760 and I remember that decision I had to make, and 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.000 Nathan had a lot of trysting qualities in him on 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:14.039 the One Tree Hill. On One Tree Hill, Lucas was 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:16.120 the moral compass and I hadn't played that. Yet at 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:17.800 that point in my career, I was always playing the 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:22.240 bad way, whether it was Dawson's Creek Kilmore Girls, whatever 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.960 it was. And so I chose the moral compass and 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.160 I wanted to go a different round discover more about myself. 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:30.440 And that's that's that's the truth, Scott. I laid it 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.840 out for you, and you're like sitting in the barber's chair. 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:38.120 I just unveiled my seating Keiko againa as Lane Kim. 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.479 So what did you like most about Lane and what 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:44.159 did you like least about Lane? 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:47.680 I liked that she. 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:49.880 Had to. 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.440 Care about two things. One she cared deeply about her 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.240 mother and the other one she would care deeply about 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:00.880 her own obsessions and her own independence. And I like 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:05.839 characters that have that want two things that don't easily 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:09.760 fit together. That's just fun to play off of, to 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:11.680 play those two wants off of each other. 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:13.480 The thing that I like. 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:18.680 Least about her is that you know, you have all 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:21.680 of this build up in that character, and I don't 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.520 think that she ever got to fly. You put so 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:26.840 much pressure on this character, which is fun and what 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.080 you need in comedy. But I wish that she had 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:30.600 had more moments of. 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:33.840 Fulfillment. 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:35.920 I think I think there's a lot there's there's a 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:39.520 lot of frustration I have with that character as a 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.320 fan too, or and as someone who got to play her, 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.680 I would say that's the thing I like least about her, 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:47.360 that there. 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.960 Was more potential to flesh out that character and and 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:57.480 and you know, with augmented storylines and and and conclusions. 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:01.760 Yeah more uh uh. I think she just had a 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.960 hard life, which is fun for comedy. But I I 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.040 don't know, And maybe this wouldn't make a better show, 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:10.520 but I think selfishly I wish that she had had 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:17.320 maybe more fulfillment. It's at least with the music side 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.920 and the independent side of her, because we get to, 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.640 you know, touch base with her ten years later in 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:24.120 the in. 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:27.040 The what about a spin off show you and. 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:28.480 Let's do that? 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:34.479 There's so much more story to hell people, let's uh, 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.120 let's uh, let's spin her off, right. 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:38.320 And it's like, who's going to write it? 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:38.800 Right? 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:40.680 Yeah? 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:45.480 Sebastian Bach as Gill going from being on stage in 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:49.319 front of millions to acting in front of a crew, 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.560 What was that transition like for you? 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:57.640 Well, I think about filming The Gilmore Girls and I 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:02.480 think about like each episode was one hour long, and 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:05.560 there's not a lot of the TV shows like that 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:09.439 anymore that I can think of. And what I enjoyed 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:10.400 about it was. 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:14.840 We all got along like as a cast and a crew. 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.000 We all I mean I wasn't there as long as you, 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:24.240 but in my experience, everybody was like having fun together 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.760 and we all were like on a mission to make 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.920 something cool that everybody was on a team, and I 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:36.120 missed that. I loved the feeling of, like you know, 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.800 it was a big cast, it was a big crew, 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:39.960 but we. 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:43.800 Were all on the same page as far as making 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.640 something that we were all proud of and getting paid 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:47.440 every Thursday. 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:49.360 Was the original plan to have you on for more 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:55.400 than one episode or did that grow as times that grew? Yeah, okay, yeah. 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.440 I became friends with Amy and Dan. We would go 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:01.680 to the Rainbow couple of times, and me and Dan 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:06.800 bonded over old Judas Priest and Rush and he's a 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:13.199 real rocker, Dan, he and as arguing with your band my. 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:19.080 Band indeed indeed ariel Kebble as Lindsay, did you remember 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.160 reading the script and seeing that you were getting cheated 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:23.920 on with Rory? Do you remember how it felt. 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:25.920 Yeah, you want to know how messed up this is. 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:31.040 I remember reading the script. I actually thought the cheating 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.280 made more sense than us getting married. I remember reading 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:35.920 the script where we got married. 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:37.360 And I was like, what. 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.480 That was harder for me to wrap my head around. 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.640 I don't know if that just means I'm really messed up, 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:50.480 but I because we were just so young and we 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:53.880 were so fresh in this relationship. I was really trying 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:55.839 to wrap my head around, Okay, we just took this 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.839 jump to marriage. So I guess by the time the 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:02.120 cheating came, I was like, yeah, of course, you know, 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.480 like what else was going to happen? 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:05.079 Right? 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:07.200 So, yeah, I don't know what that says about me. 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:15.040 But why do you think Lindsey didn't directly confront Rory 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:16.360 after she found the note? 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:18.080 That's a great question. 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:20.600 I think. 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.600 Deep down she always knew. 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:26.000 You know. 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.000 It's like I remember that episode where she's like baking 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:32.040 him cupcakes with gummy bears on top. You know, it's 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:35.880 like she's doing all these things to just these acts 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:37.720 of service, to just show her. 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.160 Love and this commitment to. 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:44.560 Him, And you can feel, even if someone's not saying it, 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.880 you can feel when someone's not all in right, and 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:54.199 so I think I think she felt like dang, I 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:56.199 wish I was wrong, but. 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:57.360 I was right. 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:01.760 Grantly Phillips as the town Troubadour? Did it all begin 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:05.880 with Gilmore Girls and you being cast as a town troubadour? 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:11.000 Oh goodness, well this would have been about. 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:15.000 Two thousand, right, five years ago? Yeah, yes, yes, okay, right. 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:21.080 You know I had been with Grantly Buffalo vocalist, you know, 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.040 in the band Grantly Buffalo and all that, and and 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:25.840 around this time I was kind of starting to go 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.280 out on my own, working on my first solo album, 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:32.080 and that was about the time that I got this 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.439 this invitation. Do I want to come on this show, 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:39.640 this new show and portray the town Troubadour? And so 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.360 it was it was great timing because you know, all 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.320 of a sudden, I wasn't on the road all the 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.360 time I was recording. I was kind of just wide 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.960 open to whatever the future wanted to throw at me. 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.959 And there it was. Gilmore Girls. Had no idea that, 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:56.000 you know, beyond one appearance, that it would you know, 0:12:56.520 --> 0:13:02.040 involve you know, so many seasons and there's this incredible lifetime. 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:03.640 How many how many episodes did you end up doing. 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.160 Do you remember there might have been like I'm going 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:06.000 to say maybe twenty. 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:12.040 That's pretty good. Did you notice a hike and album 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:16.160 sales or record sales? Uh? More people showing up at 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:19.360 your on tour when you were touring well as a 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:20.080 result of the show. 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:23.040 Well, you know what, I Uh, it's interesting some and 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:26.920 this it still occurs. The ripples continue to this day. 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.080 You know when I when I go out and play, 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.800 I typically meet people to come to the show. 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:32.679 Uh. 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.280 Some people that know Grantly Buffalo, some people that have 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:38.160 followed my solo stuff, and then a whole other group 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:40.800 of people that it's because of this program, right that 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:41.720 they come to the show. 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:43.920 I can't walk down the street in Amsterdam, ken you anymore? 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:45.960 I can't. You can't you know, it's like crazy. You 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.600 have to jump into the canal just I do. Swim away? 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:52.800 Don't you make you? Amic As Sherry, you played Christopher's 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.400 girl friend, eventually became his wife and mother to Gigi. 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:58.960 Tell us about how the audition process and all that. 0:13:59.000 --> 0:13:59.560 How you get the. 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:06.679 Wrong Actually I tested a whole bunch of times and 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:10.079 got really really close to getting. 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:16.040 Loralai and and just at the end of the day, 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.319 like the Studio Network, they're like, oh, it just doesn't 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:19.600 feel right for whatever reason. 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:20.960 Right, It's like who knows why. 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:22.600 People, But I was just I was like, I was 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:23.120 so excited. 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.000 I was like, oh, I love this script and I 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:29.920 love Amy. So I was heartbroken, not gonna lie, But 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.400 then I was really excited that Amy just invited me. 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:34.600 Back to play. 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.600 You know, this kind of kooky character that came in 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:43.440 and I guess tortured everybody. 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:44.800 She was. 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:45.920 She was interesting. 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:49.040 What I liked about her is that she was innocent 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:49.480 in it all. 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:50.640 She was very. 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.480 Hi, I'm you know, so good to meet you, having 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.600 no idea that that the entire. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.720 Town and social. 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:05.320 Group, you know, looked at that character as a getting 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:08.120 in the way. You know, how dare. 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:21.800 She Jackson Douglas as Jackson Belleville. How would you describe 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:25.160 Jackson in your own words or Arnold Swayt Schwarzenegger's words 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:26.560 or yeah. 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:31.520 I don't know, you know, it was it was an 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.200 interesting It was really an interesting role because I think 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.440 it was just kind of a I mean, the best 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.160 way that I can describe it, at least the way 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.840 I feel about it, is just a hyperboleized version of me. 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.800 You know, it's funny how you would live life, and 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:47.760 they would all of a sudden end up in a script. 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:51.640 I got named the president of the Homos Association, and 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.520 a month later later we were doing I was being 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.960 elected the town selectman, you know, because I don't know, 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:01.280 Amy just seemed to think that my life was hilarious 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:06.640 and just needed to use that for something. It was 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:10.840 so easy, I mean, the character was just so much fun, 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.840 and I got along with everybody so well that it 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:17.040 just it really did become effortless. The hardest thing was 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:21.720 just to use somebody else's words, you know, try to 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.720 It's like, oh, I wouldn't speak that way, but I've 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:28.040 got to try and force my mouth to, you know, 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:29.240 say it a certain way. 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:33.520 Or and plus you get to, you know, work with 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.240 Melissa McCarthy Forgod's Well, yeah, was out. 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:37.400 It didn't. 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:38.880 It didn't feel like. 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:44.200 Right exactly because we've said on the show, on the podcast, 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.560 you know we could I could see because I haven't 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:49.240 seen the episodes, right, so I'm watching for the first time. 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:52.720 It's a whole thesis of the podcast, and you. 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:55.720 Know, the talent on her from the very first moment 0:16:55.880 --> 0:17:01.240 you see her is so glaring and apparent, and. 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.720 Just like, wow, did you see it too? 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:03.880 You must have seen it, right. 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:09.800 I guess I felt it, you know, And I guess 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:14.560 I'm really really fortunate that I felt such a wonderful 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.840 personal connection with her that I think if I were 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.359 to oh my god, I mean now that you mention it, 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:24.200 I kind of just got shivers. How if I looked 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:26.280 at it the way that you described it, I think 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.240 I would have been really intimidated, and I don't think 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.840 I would have been able to come even close. 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:37.800 Jared Pedlicky as Dean Forrester, was Gilmour your first acting 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:39.960 gig that you got hired for? 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:44.560 Not technically so when I was a senior in high school. Well, okay, 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:46.800 I'll go back a little bit further. Between my junior 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.720 and senior year of high school. I want a nationwide 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:52.520 contest to be a trophy presenter at the first annual 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:53.800 Teen Choice Awards. 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.200 And that meant stood there on stage, I. 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:59.160 Held onto a surfboard, and when Freddy Prince Junior would 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.480 win Best Kiss for sheet all that, I'd give it 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:03.200 to him and I'd you know, usher them off stage. 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:06.480 And at the after party, I met a manager. 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:09.240 Who I'm still with to this day, Dan Spielo, who's 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:12.000 also a producing partner, and he's like, hey, you know, 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.080 do you act or what's I was like, yeah, you know, 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:17.360 I'm acted in school, done speech and debate and plays 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.320 and this, and then I love acting, and so well, 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:21.159 here's my card, you know, let's keep in touch. And 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:24.520 so I went back to San Antonio to do my 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:28.919 senior high school. I flew out during spring break of 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:33.520 my senior year, so February during pilot season, thank god, 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:38.119 and I got a pilot called Silent Witness, which was 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.840 for NBC and it didn't get picked up, and so 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:42.679 you know, my parents were like, well, okay, you know, 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.600 you did it. You gave it a shot. And then 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:48.000 the check came in for the pilot and they were like, 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:49.160 following your dream, son. 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:53.119 I used money. 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:56.040 I used that money to road trip out. I put 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.760 some aside for student loans and whatnot, and I drove 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:04.639 out to California with my papall my mom's dad, stayed 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:07.560 with my manager at his house and did some auditions 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:11.399 and I think that first week or two weeks or whatever, 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.480 and these are back. You remember two thousand like if 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:17.840 you were if you were a teenage white dude, there 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.000 was a role for you in every single project that 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:23.359 was being made. And so I got tons of auditions 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:25.440 that they're like, hey, this new kid in town. 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:27.439 He has acted all throughout school. 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:31.240 And so I booked a guest spot on Er, I 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.040 booked in a movie called A Little Inside, and I 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:38.040 booked a four episode guest star stint on Gilmore Girls, 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:41.760 this show that hadn't aired yet. And funny enough, when 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:47.600 I booked the re recast of Dean Forrester, you know, 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:49.200 the show hadn't been picked up yet. I was just 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.320 a co star, I think at the time. And I'd 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:53.879 also been offered this independent movie I Forget then that 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.400 Boys on the Run I think it was called, which 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:59.159 was like ten times the money, and I got offered 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:02.760 another that was like six times the money. And then 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.200 I got off with Gilmore Girls, which hadn't even aired yet, 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.400 and I was, you know, this this kid who grew 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:10.600 up in a seven here s Griffet house in San Antonio, 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:15.760 going like money, money, money. My my agent and manager 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:18.880 were like no, no, no, no, you know we think that 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:22.000 the show, which I hadn't read yet, I hadn't seen obviously, 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:22.680 it hadn't aired. 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:26.080 They're like, we think the show has has legs. It's 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:26.720 a great show. 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:30.639 It's super intelligent, it's funny, it's charming, it's heartwarming. 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:32.600 We think you should do that. 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:37.480 And so thank god they convinced me, I was still 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:41.320 seventeen at the time, to shoot four episodes on the 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:43.320 whole show called Gilmore Girls that hadn't aired yet. 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:45.960 You know, a couple of independent movies. 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:49.480 Paul Anka as himself, a bunch of first hear about 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:52.280 Lorelized Dog being named after you. 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:55.119 I think it was right from the inception, you know, 0:20:55.359 --> 0:21:00.080 artbeat later, I want to get out there, obviously, and 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:02.280 you know, I became a huge fan of the show. 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:04.400 Obviously it was a great show, well written, et cetera, 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:08.480 et cetera. But from the inception, you know, probably what 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:12.760 after the first couple of weeks, everybody came around and 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:16.359 I heard about it, and I thought it was cool 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:20.159