1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: I Am all in again. 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: Oh let us you. 3 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 3: Hi Am all in Again with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast. 4 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: The date is October fifth, two thousand. The WB is 5 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: turned on and you hear of the song. There she 6 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: goes with a beautiful brunette walking down a quaint little 7 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: town street of stars hollow, popping into a diner and 8 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: begging for more coffee from a guy in a backwards 9 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: hat and flannel shirt. This was the beginning of Gilmour Girls, 10 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: the show that twenty five years ago led into our 11 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: hearts with its fast talking mother daughter duo relationships and friendships, 12 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: and a small, quirky town that felt like home. What 13 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: do you want to celebrate with you by taking a 14 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: look back at some of our most memorable guests of 15 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: the podcast. Let's dive into the behind the scenes stories 16 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: of how it all came together. Was some of your 17 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: favorite stars my Low vent Emilia as Jess Mariano. How 18 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: did we meet? Well? Do you remember the first time 19 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: we met? 20 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 4: Oh? Man, I don't remember the first moment, I think 21 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 4: I very much, just remember that first day of filming. 22 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 4: What I remember is just diving right in like like, 23 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,639 Speaker 4: no pleasantries, no bullsht, to be like this is Scott, 24 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 4: this is mine, Like this is we're gonna find this 25 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 4: is gonna work, you know, and too what was always 26 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 4: funny to me was, dude, you and I were always 27 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 4: like really cool and engaged and had a lot to 28 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 4: talk about. But of course we're playing these characters that 29 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 4: you know, Jess was. He was a punk kid who 30 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 4: didn't want to hear it from anybody. And you know, 31 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: Luke was losing his mind with this kid that he 32 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 4: got saddled with from his sister. And and you know, 33 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 4: could who you and I were could not have been 34 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 4: more opposite than who Jess and Luke were. But also 35 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 4: where Jess and Luke kind of got to, I think 36 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 4: ultimately was closer to who you and I were in 37 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 4: terms of like like relationship and whatnot, you know, because 38 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 4: I think I think, you know, Jess grew up, just 39 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 4: learned some lessons, and Luke had been through some stuff 40 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 4: and that's all fascinating. 41 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: Would you do it again if they wanted to do 42 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: some more episodes You're in life part sure? 43 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 4: I mean, the thing the thing is this is like 44 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 4: I can't ever get away from it. You know, It's 45 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 4: it's for me knowing that like you and Lauren and 46 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 4: Alexis and probably just about everybody else in the show 47 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 4: would show up, and on top of it, it'd probably 48 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 4: be Dan and Amy there writing their asses off. It's like, yeah, 49 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 4: why wouldn't I if it would feel like it's there 50 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 4: for the right reason versus the wrong reason, like and 51 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 4: we all know those wrong reasons where shows think that 52 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 4: the show is bigger than the characters, so they'll try 53 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: and bring it back just to get more money. And 54 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, but are you are there really more 55 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 4: stories to tell? That's that's where I always kind of 56 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 4: go back to the nostalgia of the past, of stories 57 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 4: that we were a part of. Is are there still 58 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 4: more stories to tell? Have these characters grown to a 59 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 4: point where we actually really want to see more of them, 60 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 4: We want to understand where they've been, We're going to 61 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 4: discover something new. So I think if they did want 62 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: to bring it back, and if it was it was 63 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: Amy and dam at the Helm and you guys are 64 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 4: all showing up, I'd be a jerk to not show up. 65 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: Chad Michael Murray is Tristan? Do you think Tristan had 66 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: true feelings for Rory. 67 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 5: Understate? 68 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? 69 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 5: Not even questions, not even questions. 70 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: What would you have liked to see them explore more 71 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: on the relationship or would you have liked to explore 72 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: that relationship with her more? Because I think that's one 73 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: of the things that I mean, it left me wanting 74 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: so much more. When you exited that series, you were 75 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: no longer there, So that relationship, to me, had the 76 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: most It was so fraught with potential. 77 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, and well they built it. They built it, and 78 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 6: you know, I will take responsibility. 79 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 5: It's on me that you know. 80 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 6: I don't think the true depth of that relationship ever 81 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 6: came to fruition. It's on me. 82 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 5: I don't know. 83 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 6: There was an episode in season two where Tristan goes 84 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,559 Speaker 6: off to military school in North Carolina, i e. Being 85 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 6: Dawson's Creek, i e. Being One Tree Hill where we 86 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 6: shot in North Carolina. That was military school, my friend. 87 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 6: As an actor, you know this, trying on different clothes, 88 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 6: different costumes, different walks, different talks, different fields, getting up 89 00:04:55,800 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 6: in the morning and having a fresh shirt. It's different, right, 90 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 6: And sitting in the same character for too long can 91 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 6: get stagnant, and we always forget how blessed we are 92 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 6: when we're in those moments, right, because creatively, you can 93 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 6: get stifled. Not that the character was stifling. They did 94 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 6: a great job. But I was so young that I 95 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 6: needed to find out who Chad is, Who is Chad 96 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 6: is an actor? Where can I go? What can I do? 97 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 6: And you know, it led to me discovering so much 98 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 6: about myself that I genuinely wouldn't be the man I 99 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 6: was today. Without making that decision, you know, I could 100 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 6: have stayed there and spent six seasons on. 101 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: Oh so they offered you a full deal. 102 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 6: But yeah, we had the discussion, and for me it 103 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 6: was I had at the time, I had a deal 104 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 6: with Warner Brooks. When the opportunity came through to stay 105 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 6: on Gilmore and really see, I just wanted to know 106 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 6: more about me, and I said, you know, I'd love 107 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 6: the opportunity to continue to look and find out what 108 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 6: that thing is that is And One Tree Hill came 109 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 6: around and there was the choice between Lucas and Nathan, 110 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 6: and I remember that decision I had to make, and 111 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 6: Nathan had a lot of trysting qualities in him on 112 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 6: the One Tree Hill. On One Tree Hill, Lucas was 113 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 6: the moral compass and I hadn't played that. Yet at 114 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 6: that point in my career, I was always playing the 115 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 6: bad way, whether it was Dawson's Creek Kilmore Girls, whatever 116 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 6: it was. And so I chose the moral compass and 117 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 6: I wanted to go a different round discover more about myself. 118 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 6: And that's that's that's the truth, Scott. I laid it 119 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 6: out for you, and you're like sitting in the barber's chair. 120 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: I just unveiled my seating Keiko againa as Lane Kim. 121 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: So what did you like most about Lane and what 122 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: did you like least about Lane? 123 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: I liked that she. 124 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 7: Had to. 125 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: Care about two things. One she cared deeply about her 126 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: mother and the other one she would care deeply about 127 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: her own obsessions and her own independence. And I like 128 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 3: characters that have that want two things that don't easily 129 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: fit together. That's just fun to play off of, to 130 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: play those two wants off of each other. 131 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 8: The thing that I like. 132 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: Least about her is that you know, you have all 133 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: of this build up in that character, and I don't 134 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: think that she ever got to fly. You put so 135 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: much pressure on this character, which is fun and what 136 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 3: you need in comedy. But I wish that she had 137 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: had more moments of. 138 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: Fulfillment. 139 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: I think I think there's a lot there's there's a 140 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: lot of frustration I have with that character as a 141 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: fan too, or and as someone who got to play her, 142 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: I would say that's the thing I like least about her, 143 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: that there. 144 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: Was more potential to flesh out that character and and 145 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: and you know, with augmented storylines and and and conclusions. 146 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: Yeah more uh uh. I think she just had a 147 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: hard life, which is fun for comedy. But I I 148 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 3: don't know, And maybe this wouldn't make a better show, 149 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: but I think selfishly I wish that she had had 150 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: maybe more fulfillment. It's at least with the music side 151 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: and the independent side of her, because we get to, 152 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: you know, touch base with her ten years later in 153 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: the in. 154 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: The what about a spin off show you and. 155 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 9: Let's do that? 156 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,479 Speaker 3: There's so much more story to hell people, let's uh, 157 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: let's uh, let's spin her off, right. 158 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: And it's like, who's going to write it? 159 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: Right? 160 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 10: Yeah? 161 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: Sebastian Bach as Gill going from being on stage in 162 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: front of millions to acting in front of a crew, 163 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: What was that transition like for you? 164 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 11: Well, I think about filming The Gilmore Girls and I 165 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 11: think about like each episode was one hour long, and 166 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 11: there's not a lot of the TV shows like that 167 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 11: anymore that I can think of. And what I enjoyed 168 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 11: about it was. 169 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 12: We all got along like as a cast and a crew. 170 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 12: We all I mean I wasn't there as long as you, 171 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 12: but in my experience, everybody was like having fun together 172 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 12: and we all were like on a mission to make 173 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 12: something cool that everybody was on a team, and I 174 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 12: missed that. I loved the feeling of, like you know, 175 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 12: it was a big cast, it was a big crew, 176 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 12: but we. 177 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 11: Were all on the same page as far as making 178 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 11: something that we were all proud of and getting paid 179 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 11: every Thursday. 180 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: Was the original plan to have you on for more 181 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: than one episode or did that grow as times that grew? Yeah, okay, yeah. 182 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 11: I became friends with Amy and Dan. We would go 183 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 11: to the Rainbow couple of times, and me and Dan 184 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 11: bonded over old Judas Priest and Rush and he's a 185 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 11: real rocker, Dan, he and as arguing with your band my. 186 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: Band indeed indeed ariel Kebble as Lindsay, did you remember 187 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: reading the script and seeing that you were getting cheated 188 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: on with Rory? Do you remember how it felt. 189 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 13: Yeah, you want to know how messed up this is. 190 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 13: I remember reading the script. I actually thought the cheating 191 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 13: made more sense than us getting married. I remember reading 192 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 13: the script where we got married. 193 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 5: And I was like, what. 194 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 13: That was harder for me to wrap my head around. 195 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 13: I don't know if that just means I'm really messed up, 196 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 13: but I because we were just so young and we 197 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 13: were so fresh in this relationship. I was really trying 198 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 13: to wrap my head around, Okay, we just took this 199 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 13: jump to marriage. So I guess by the time the 200 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 13: cheating came, I was like, yeah, of course, you know, 201 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 13: like what else was going to happen? 202 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 14: Right? 203 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 10: So, yeah, I don't know what that says about me. 204 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: But why do you think Lindsey didn't directly confront Rory 205 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: after she found the note? 206 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 6: That's a great question. 207 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 13: I think. 208 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 6: Deep down she always knew. 209 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 5: You know. 210 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 13: It's like I remember that episode where she's like baking 211 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 13: him cupcakes with gummy bears on top. You know, it's 212 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 13: like she's doing all these things to just these acts 213 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 13: of service, to just show her. 214 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 9: Love and this commitment to. 215 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 13: Him, And you can feel, even if someone's not saying it, 216 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 13: you can feel when someone's not all in right, and 217 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 13: so I think I think she felt like dang, I 218 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 13: wish I was wrong, but. 219 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 5: I was right. 220 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: Grantly Phillips as the town Troubadour? Did it all begin 221 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: with Gilmore Girls and you being cast as a town troubadour? 222 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 15: Oh goodness, well this would have been about. 223 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: Two thousand, right, five years ago? Yeah, yes, yes, okay, right. 224 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 15: You know I had been with Grantly Buffalo vocalist, you know, 225 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 15: in the band Grantly Buffalo and all that, and and 226 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 15: around this time I was kind of starting to go 227 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 15: out on my own, working on my first solo album, 228 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 15: and that was about the time that I got this 229 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 15: this invitation. Do I want to come on this show, 230 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 15: this new show and portray the town Troubadour? And so 231 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 15: it was it was great timing because you know, all 232 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 15: of a sudden, I wasn't on the road all the 233 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 15: time I was recording. I was kind of just wide 234 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 15: open to whatever the future wanted to throw at me. 235 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 15: And there it was. Gilmore Girls. Had no idea that, 236 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 15: you know, beyond one appearance, that it would you know, 237 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 15: involve you know, so many seasons and there's this incredible lifetime. 238 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: How many how many episodes did you end up doing. 239 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 15: Do you remember there might have been like I'm going 240 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 15: to say maybe twenty. 241 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Did you notice a hike and album 242 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: sales or record sales? Uh? More people showing up at 243 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: your on tour when you were touring well as a 244 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: result of the show. 245 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 15: Well, you know what, I Uh, it's interesting some and 246 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 15: this it still occurs. The ripples continue to this day. 247 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 15: You know when I when I go out and play, 248 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 15: I typically meet people to come to the show. 249 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 16: Uh. 250 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 15: Some people that know Grantly Buffalo, some people that have 251 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 15: followed my solo stuff, and then a whole other group 252 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 15: of people that it's because of this program, right that 253 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 15: they come to the show. 254 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: I can't walk down the street in Amsterdam, ken you anymore? 255 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: I can't. You can't you know, it's like crazy. You 256 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: have to jump into the canal just I do. Swim away? 257 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: Don't you make you? Amic As Sherry, you played Christopher's 258 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: girl friend, eventually became his wife and mother to Gigi. 259 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: Tell us about how the audition process and all that. 260 00:13:59,000 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 17: How you get the. 261 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 18: Wrong Actually I tested a whole bunch of times and 262 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 18: got really really close to getting. 263 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 19: Loralai and and just at the end of the day, 264 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 19: like the Studio Network, they're like, oh, it just doesn't 265 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 19: feel right for whatever reason. 266 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 18: Right, It's like who knows why. 267 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 5: People, But I was just I was like, I was 268 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 5: so excited. 269 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 18: I was like, oh, I love this script and I 270 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 18: love Amy. So I was heartbroken, not gonna lie, But 271 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 18: then I was really excited that Amy just invited me. 272 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 5: Back to play. 273 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 19: You know, this kind of kooky character that came in 274 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 19: and I guess tortured everybody. 275 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 5: She was. 276 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: She was interesting. 277 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 18: What I liked about her is that she was innocent 278 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 18: in it all. 279 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 6: She was very. 280 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 19: Hi, I'm you know, so good to meet you, having 281 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 19: no idea that that the entire. 282 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 18: Town and social. 283 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 19: Group, you know, looked at that character as a getting 284 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 19: in the way. You know, how dare. 285 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: She Jackson Douglas as Jackson Belleville. How would you describe 286 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: Jackson in your own words or Arnold Swayt Schwarzenegger's words 287 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: or yeah. 288 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 20: I don't know, you know, it was it was an 289 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 20: interesting It was really an interesting role because I think 290 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 20: it was just kind of a I mean, the best 291 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 20: way that I can describe it, at least the way 292 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 20: I feel about it, is just a hyperboleized version of me. 293 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 20: You know, it's funny how you would live life, and 294 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 20: they would all of a sudden end up in a script. 295 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 20: I got named the president of the Homos Association, and 296 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 20: a month later later we were doing I was being 297 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 20: elected the town selectman, you know, because I don't know, 298 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 20: Amy just seemed to think that my life was hilarious 299 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 20: and just needed to use that for something. It was 300 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 20: so easy, I mean, the character was just so much fun, 301 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 20: and I got along with everybody so well that it 302 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 20: just it really did become effortless. The hardest thing was 303 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 20: just to use somebody else's words, you know, try to 304 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 20: It's like, oh, I wouldn't speak that way, but I've 305 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 20: got to try and force my mouth to, you know, 306 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 20: say it a certain way. 307 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: Or and plus you get to, you know, work with 308 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: Melissa McCarthy Forgod's Well, yeah, was out. 309 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 10: It didn't. 310 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 9: It didn't feel like. 311 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: Right exactly because we've said on the show, on the podcast, 312 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: you know we could I could see because I haven't 313 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: seen the episodes, right, so I'm watching for the first time. 314 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 5: It's a whole thesis of the podcast, and you. 315 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: Know, the talent on her from the very first moment 316 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: you see her is so glaring and apparent, and. 317 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 9: Just like, wow, did you see it too? 318 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 5: You must have seen it, right. 319 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 20: I guess I felt it, you know, And I guess 320 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 20: I'm really really fortunate that I felt such a wonderful 321 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 20: personal connection with her that I think if I were 322 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 20: to oh my god, I mean now that you mention it, 323 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 20: I kind of just got shivers. How if I looked 324 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 20: at it the way that you described it, I think 325 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 20: I would have been really intimidated, and I don't think 326 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 20: I would have been able to come even close. 327 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: Jared Pedlicky as Dean Forrester, was Gilmour your first acting 328 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: gig that you got hired for? 329 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 17: Not technically so when I was a senior in high school. Well, okay, 330 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 17: I'll go back a little bit further. Between my junior 331 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 17: and senior year of high school. I want a nationwide 332 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 17: contest to be a trophy presenter at the first annual 333 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 17: Teen Choice Awards. 334 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 5: And that meant stood there on stage, I. 335 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 17: Held onto a surfboard, and when Freddy Prince Junior would 336 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 17: win Best Kiss for sheet all that, I'd give it 337 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 17: to him and I'd you know, usher them off stage. 338 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 5: And at the after party, I met a manager. 339 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 17: Who I'm still with to this day, Dan Spielo, who's 340 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 17: also a producing partner, and he's like, hey, you know, 341 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 17: do you act or what's I was like, yeah, you know, 342 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 17: I'm acted in school, done speech and debate and plays 343 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 17: and this, and then I love acting, and so well, 344 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 17: here's my card, you know, let's keep in touch. And 345 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 17: so I went back to San Antonio to do my 346 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 17: senior high school. I flew out during spring break of 347 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 17: my senior year, so February during pilot season, thank god, 348 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 17: and I got a pilot called Silent Witness, which was 349 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 17: for NBC and it didn't get picked up, and so 350 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 17: you know, my parents were like, well, okay, you know, 351 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 17: you did it. You gave it a shot. And then 352 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 17: the check came in for the pilot and they were like, 353 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 17: following your dream, son. 354 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 5: I used money. 355 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 17: I used that money to road trip out. I put 356 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 17: some aside for student loans and whatnot, and I drove 357 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 17: out to California with my papall my mom's dad, stayed 358 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 17: with my manager at his house and did some auditions 359 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 17: and I think that first week or two weeks or whatever, 360 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 17: and these are back. You remember two thousand like if 361 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 17: you were if you were a teenage white dude, there 362 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 17: was a role for you in every single project that 363 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 17: was being made. And so I got tons of auditions 364 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 17: that they're like, hey, this new kid in town. 365 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 5: He has acted all throughout school. 366 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 17: And so I booked a guest spot on Er, I 367 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 17: booked in a movie called A Little Inside, and I 368 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 17: booked a four episode guest star stint on Gilmore Girls, 369 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 17: this show that hadn't aired yet. And funny enough, when 370 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 17: I booked the re recast of Dean Forrester, you know, 371 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 17: the show hadn't been picked up yet. I was just 372 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 17: a co star, I think at the time. And I'd 373 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 17: also been offered this independent movie I Forget then that 374 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 17: Boys on the Run I think it was called, which 375 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 17: was like ten times the money, and I got offered 376 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 17: another that was like six times the money. And then 377 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 17: I got off with Gilmore Girls, which hadn't even aired yet, 378 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 17: and I was, you know, this this kid who grew 379 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 17: up in a seven here s Griffet house in San Antonio, 380 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 17: going like money, money, money. My my agent and manager 381 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 17: were like no, no, no, no, you know we think that 382 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 17: the show, which I hadn't read yet, I hadn't seen obviously, 383 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 17: it hadn't aired. 384 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 5: They're like, we think the show has has legs. It's 385 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 5: a great show. 386 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 17: It's super intelligent, it's funny, it's charming, it's heartwarming. 387 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 5: We think you should do that. 388 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 17: And so thank god they convinced me, I was still 389 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 17: seventeen at the time, to shoot four episodes on the 390 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 17: whole show called Gilmore Girls that hadn't aired yet. 391 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 5: You know, a couple of independent movies. 392 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: Paul Anka as himself, a bunch of first hear about 393 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: Lorelized Dog being named after you. 394 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 9: I think it was right from the inception, you know, 395 00:20:55,359 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 9: artbeat later, I want to get out there, obviously, and 396 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 9: you know, I became a huge fan of the show. 397 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 9: Obviously it was a great show, well written, et cetera, 398 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 9: et cetera. But from the inception, you know, probably what 399 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 9: after the first couple of weeks, everybody came around and 400 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 9: I heard about it, and I thought it was cool 401 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 9: because it's so international. I've been an international creature, but 402 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 9: I was ultimately hearing from everybody all over the world. 403 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: And so you were aware of the show before you 404 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: found out about it. 405 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 9: Friends were watching it. I think my kids were watching it. Right, 406 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 9: you know the show. I mean, we're not talking about 407 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 9: something obscure. This show was like everybody loved it, So 408 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 9: I was very much aware of the show. Yeah right. 409 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: And and then you made a cameo in the cold 410 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: open of season six, episode eighteen. Tell us how that 411 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: came about that black and White. 412 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 9: Well, I got the call and I said, yeah, let's 413 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 9: do it. I think we did a couple. When I 414 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 9: first got the call, I was very happy to do it, 415 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,239 Speaker 9: you know, I thought, yeah, natural for me. And they 416 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 9: were great to work with. They were just a fun 417 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 9: group of people and great bright knew what they were doing, 418 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 9: and that was very comforting to me. 419 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: Right, do do fans approach you about your appearances on 420 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: cal Morn Girls. 421 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 9: I'm still do fans. I got friends, I got people 422 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 9: who did at parties. He always comes up and you know, 423 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 9: I hate the phrase, it is what it is, but 424 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 9: it is what it is and it was great to 425 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 9: be a part of it. 426 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: Kathleen Wilhoyt as Luke's sister lives. 427 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 21: Working with Michael was great fun when we did the 428 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 21: wedding scene and his brother came on the show. Then 429 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 21: I got to see the Delawise kind of family dynamic, 430 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 21: which is just full of love and light and silliness 431 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 21: and laughter. I mean that is quite a family and anyway, 432 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 21: so I really enjoyed that. But I remember the highlights 433 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 21: for me were King was on the set once and 434 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 21: Sebastian Bach and Carol King were on a golf cart driving. 435 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 21: I don't know where they were going, and I was 436 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 21: about one hundred yards away and Sebastian Bach says. 437 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: Kathleen and I turn around. 438 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 21: I might have been with a friend or something. And 439 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 21: I turned around and I was like, he goes, come 440 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 21: in here. 441 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: I said, hold on a second. 442 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 21: Oh, he says, Carol wants to meet you or something. 443 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 21: So I'm just like swirly eyes. You know, I've been 444 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 21: a huge Carol King fan my whole life. I run 445 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 21: to the golf cart and then he looks at me 446 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 21: and he sort of blinks and he was like and 447 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 21: then who like looks And then I said, Hi, I'm Kathleen. 448 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: He goes, no, not you. 449 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 8: The pa. 450 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 9: I was like. 451 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 21: And then the pa who I was with or something, 452 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 21: she was like, oh, Carol, that's Kathleen. Sebastian, this is 453 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 21: Kathleen too. She's in the. 454 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: Cast or whatever. 455 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 21: It was, but getting to meet Carol King was huge highlight. 456 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 21: I've been a huge fan of my whole life. 457 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: So did so you met she was on the Uh? Well, 458 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: it was that during the series of the reboot because 459 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: I met her on the reboot. I never met her 460 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: on the series. 461 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 21: Oh, she was at the she was on the lot. 462 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 21: I don't know if she was on, but I didn't 463 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 21: get to be on the reboot. And my agent called 464 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 21: me and she said, you need to call Amy and 465 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 21: say you should be on the reboot. And I'm like, 466 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 21: I'm not going to call her, and like, if she's 467 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 21: not putting me on, then she doesn't want me on. Gross, 468 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 21: I'm not that guy. 469 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 7: You know. 470 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: That's what it needed. It needed, it needed Lizen TJ. 471 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: It needed. It really did well. 472 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 21: It turns out I'm available. 473 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: I think Truesdale is Michelle. Do you consider Michelle to 474 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: be rude or just honest? 475 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 10: I think honest, honest, but in a context of different culture, 476 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 10: you know, because Michelle, Michelle in Paris is not rude. 477 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 10: They're they're all on, they're all like him. They put 478 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 10: him in the context of an America. 479 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, he is. 480 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 10: Rude because people don't speak their mind right right right. 481 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 10: When they do, it's because they're being rude. He's just 482 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 10: and the French love to have an argument, right, you 483 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 10: would think they're fighting, but it's just they love the 484 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 10: conversation and the benter. 485 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 5: And arguing about the objective, just. 486 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 10: Taking on purpose the opposite side of absolutely like dissect. 487 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: I mean, you just can't sit there and eat the dinner, 488 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta. 489 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 10: Yeah, so yeah, I don't think he is rude. 490 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: No, okay, all right, So here's a little bit of 491 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: a personal question. Do you think people think that you 492 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: are prickly in real life? 493 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 5: Yes? They do. They do. 494 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 10: Yeah, they do because well they think because when you 495 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 10: do something well in this business, as you know, people 496 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 10: think you are that person. Right, So they're always first 497 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 10: of all shocked that when I open my mouth when 498 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 10: they've never seen me in anything else that I don't 499 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 10: speak like Michelle. 500 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 5: I was like, well, no, this is a character I'm not. 501 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 10: But and then they're like, oh, you're so nice, You're 502 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 10: so sick. 503 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 5: I was afraid to say hi to you, right right, right, 504 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 5: right right right. 505 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 10: So there's a little bit of that perception that you 506 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 10: are that character. But quickly they realize how charm me, I. 507 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: Am Sally Strugglers as Bebett. If you could jump back 508 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: in time to filming any episode or season, what would 509 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: it be? 510 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 5: Oh Gilmore? 511 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 16: Any episode or season of the Gilmore Girls. 512 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 9: Oh Gilmore Girls. 513 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 11: Oh M. 514 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 16: When did I have the most fun? Probably when we 515 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 16: did what was it called A Year in the Life? 516 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 5: What was it a? 517 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 12: Oh? 518 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 9: Okay? 519 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 11: We came back. 520 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 16: We all hadn't seen each other in several years, and 521 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 16: then we did those four ninety minute movies, and I 522 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 16: felt so lucky. I felt like I hadn't been invited 523 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 16: to my high school reunion. And the reunion went on 524 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 16: for you know, a month. I was like a kid 525 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 16: at Christmas, dancing around the Warner Brothers lot, and Rose 526 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 16: Abdu said to me one day, Oh, here comes one 527 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 16: of their their trolley's what do you call those caravan 528 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 16: things where they drive people around to take a tour 529 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 16: in the studio bus the tram right right? And she says, 530 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 16: let's just stand here and give them a thrill. We 531 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 16: were on our way to the steppe uppy truck where 532 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 16: you could get snacks, right, and we were admonishing one 533 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 16: another about how we didn't need snacks, but we were 534 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 16: getting them anyway, and then we stopped and kind of 535 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 16: poe so to give the group on the Trama thrill. 536 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 16: They didn't recognize either one of us. 537 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 8: We both felt so awful. 538 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 16: We got more snacks than we even originally wanted. 539 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: Sean Gunn as Kirk, how do you even explain the 540 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: character of Kirk? 541 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 22: Well, I'm I'm fortunate that I I read this great 542 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 22: piece in The Atlantic. I should be I should shout 543 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 22: out to the writer's name, but I don't remember her 544 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 22: name the top of my head. But it explained it 545 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 22: way better than I ever could. Where they were. She 546 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 22: talked about Kirk as a man child, And you know, 547 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 22: I always looked at him as being a guy who 548 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 22: who who like obeyed the rules at all costs, but 549 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 22: would would also would also duck them when necessary. 550 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 5: Like I don't I don't know how I thought. 551 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 22: Of it, but but when you think of Kurt as 552 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 22: like a nine year old and a grown man's body, 553 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 22: it all adds up, right, you know. It's like when 554 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 22: you think of him as it's like, oh, this is 555 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 22: like a little kid. 556 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 23: Who both he's like he'll he'll lie if he needs to, 557 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 23: but not in a bad way, only because maybe he 558 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 23: thinks he's not going to get caught. 559 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 5: And uh. 560 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 22: And yeah, I think Kirk is you know, a grown 561 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 22: man who lives alone in his mother's basement. 562 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 4: Like what, he. 563 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: Very very entrepreneurial. 564 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, it words everything like. 565 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 22: Him all the time, you know, like what, whatever you 566 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 22: expect of me, like, I will do it, and also 567 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 22: I have to do it or I'll get in trouble. 568 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: Rose Abdu is Gypsy. You got to do some pretty 569 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: pretty intense scenes with Milo. Tell us what it was 570 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: like working with him. 571 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 24: I just remember he bugged Gypsy so much like Gypsy 572 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 24: has no love for Jess as you well know. So 573 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 24: of course, because I'm such a method actor, I have 574 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 24: no love for myla. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I actually 575 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 24: I remember saying to him, you really have like a 576 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 24: young James Dean quality. And he was like, God, everybody 577 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 24: says that to me. 578 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: What a horrible somebody. 579 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 10: How could you do that? 580 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 12: I yelled at him. 581 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 24: I yelled at him and said, you should be thankful, 582 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 24: you should be thankful that people compare you to James d. 583 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: He was terrific. 584 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 24: I mean, he was so I felt like he was 585 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 24: so in character all the time. You know, he really 586 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 24: was fantastic. And I love the one where you you 587 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 24: come to ask My favorite episode is you come to 588 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 24: ask me about the car, and that's where that guys 589 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 24: are stupid lying and I go, no, but he had 590 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 24: a bag with a dollar sign on it or something 591 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 24: like that, right, and that scene, I had to a 592 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 24: nineteen marks to come out on the underneath the car 593 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 24: and take the wrench and go over to the thing. 594 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 24: And you were so nice to me. But we really 595 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 24: got it done fast. But that was one of those ones, 596 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 24: like you said, with him, that could have gone horribly 597 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 24: wrong where we really like. 598 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: This cast is so gifted and really it's like colored tape. 599 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 24: On Oh my god, you guys, there's so much tape 600 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 24: on the floor. You have no like and everybody, every 601 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 24: character is a different color. So you have to hit 602 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 24: your mark because if you're like, if you're standing with 603 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 24: the wrench here when you should be here, the whole 604 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 24: thing has to go do. 605 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how good your performance is. It's like, uh, Scott, 606 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: you missed your mom about four feet, so we're gonna 607 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: have to go again. Janet Hubert is Michelle's mom, Giselle, 608 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: So you were Michelle's mom. What do you remember about Yanik? 609 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 25: I remember that it was very lovely, very lovely young man, 610 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 25: very handsome. I said, oh, I have such a hands 611 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 25: on nun, and so I had to do this sim 612 00:31:55,120 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 25: you know. So it was, it was, it was. It 613 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 25: was something that we learned to do, truly odd and 614 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 25: so I was. I have a knack for accents. I 615 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:15,239 Speaker 25: remember the set being very well run, very professional, but 616 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 25: I don't remember much about it, to take the truth. 617 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 25: I remember the discussions that we had. I remember the wig, 618 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 25: I remember the hair, I remember the look. I was 619 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 25: trying to find it on Hulu, but I was going, 620 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 25: where is it when you do one episode? And I 621 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 25: saw where somebody wrote Janet Hubrett was a queen of 622 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 25: one episode. I was hoping that they would bring her back. 623 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 25: You know. I know that she didn't know enough about 624 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 25: her son as much as she thought she did, or 625 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 25: she wasn't as attentive of a mother as she should be, 626 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 25: which my son accuses me of all the time. 627 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 5: So I'm like, okay, whatever. 628 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: Scott Cohens, Max Medina, Scott, what Scott, Scott, what's with touching? Well, 629 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: so there was a lot of touching. 630 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 8: What what. 631 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 26: This is twenty years ago, man, a different time for me. 632 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: It's been forever. I never saw it. It even wasn't 633 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: even aware. But you you, my friend, you know, we 634 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: got to talk about the touching because the touching, I 635 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: mean you were like you were rubbing her elbow with 636 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: your thumb. 637 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 6: This is this is with Loralai. 638 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: Okay, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. 639 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 26: This is this Maxi Medina's charmed I mean, you know, 640 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 26: he was in love with Lourai. He was, you know, 641 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 26: any any way he can get close to her, he 642 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 26: would get close to her. 643 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: Man, boy, did you ever I mean talk about a 644 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: full court bress nice man, you were going and you 645 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: were going to the hoop strong. 646 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 17: Oh my god. 647 00:33:59,520 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 648 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: I don't don't think you'd be allowed to do that 649 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: these days. 650 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,239 Speaker 26: I mean I think you you would need permission to, 651 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 26: you know, to kind of create that. But I think that, 652 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 26: I mean, I do think that that. I don't think 653 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 26: it was manipulation. I think that it was you know, 654 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 26: you know Max's honest feelings about Laurel I, and you 655 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 26: know he really fell deeply in love with her and 656 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 26: just really wanted to be close with her in any way. 657 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 26: That again, and if she accepted it, then you know 658 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 26: it was all good. It was not you know, there 659 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 26: was not an issue. 660 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: And she defended very well. I mean she she denied 661 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: you denied, you denied you. This is not a good idea, 662 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: my daughters. You know, she she you know, she she 663 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: walked the high road, if you will. But man, you 664 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: just the rubbing thumb on. You just kept you, just 665 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 1: kept kept going. 666 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 26: I said, there is there is no high road. 667 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: There's what's what's am I talking about Vanessa Morano as 668 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: April and Nardini? So you kind of did realize the 669 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: impact of your character would have on the show at 670 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: the time before you when you were auditioning. 671 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 14: Yeah, I knew. I don't think I knew how how 672 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 14: hated she was going to be right right. I knew 673 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 14: it was going to be an upsetting storyline. But like, 674 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 14: I don't know, Jess broke up Dean and Rory and 675 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 14: no one seemed to hate him. 676 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: So tell us about the blowback you got from fans 677 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: when you were out in public. I mean, tell us 678 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: about the most severe cases, good or bad. 679 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 14: I mean, it wasn't good, it wasn't great. You know, 680 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 14: when I was out in public, I don't know that 681 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 14: anyone said anything too horrible, Like I think when you 682 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 14: do see a person in person and they're a child, 683 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 14: you have a little bit more of a filter. But 684 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 14: people would say like very veiled things like oh, well, 685 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 14: you're more okay than I thought you would be, that 686 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 14: sort of thing. But the online backlash, oh yeah, crazy. 687 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 14: And you know, thankfully this was before Instagram and Twitter 688 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 14: and all that stuff, but there were still like blogs 689 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 14: and like television without pity and and really actually like 690 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 14: publications too that were reviewing TV shows that were just 691 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 14: horrible and like hating me, hating my performance, hating my voice, 692 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 14: hating the way I looked. 693 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 5: It was just. 694 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 14: Awful, awful, awful, awful. However, I'm very grateful for it 695 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 14: because it made me at that time, especially because it 696 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 14: was my favorite show. So I was like, oh, well, 697 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 14: the creators of this show, Amy and Dan, who I 698 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 14: like value and like look up to think I'm good 699 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 14: and keep using me. But the rest of the world doesn't, 700 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 14: So like what opinion matters more in this moment and 701 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 14: really kind of put into perspective like you can't please everybody, 702 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 14: and like, are you just proud of the work that 703 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 14: you're doing? Years and years later when I ended up 704 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 14: on a show called Switched at Birth, which was a 705 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 14: show that I was a lead of, and I was 706 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 14: like one of the youngest people on that show. And 707 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 14: that was right when Twitter and Instagram were starting to happen. 708 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 5: I ended up being the. 709 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 14: Person who was like, hey, guys, don't look at the comments. 710 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 14: It will drive you crazy, like all of a sudden, 711 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 14: an eighteen year old telling people who are like in 712 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 14: their late twenties being like, no, trust me on this one. 713 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 5: From personal experience. 714 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: About yeah, so as it softened over the years or 715 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: oh no. 716 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 14: You know about two years ago, I opened up my 717 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 14: phone and you know there's news articles, things that are 718 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 14: going on in the world. Two years ago there was 719 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,919 Speaker 14: a pandemic. There was a BuzzFeed article that came up 720 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 14: that said most hated television characters ever. 721 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 1: Oh no, my face, Oh my face. 722 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 14: Scott I beat Joffrey from Game of Thrones. 723 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 1: Ted Rooney as Morey Dell. So listen, Mary Dell husband, 724 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: Okay to Sally Struthers, Bebbett or Babbitt, whatever you want 725 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 1: to call her. Did you love working with Sally? 726 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 2: What was it like? 727 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 8: Oh, first day, little hint, I know who Sally Struthers is. 728 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 5: Very well. 729 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 8: We're sitting on the set together next to each other. 730 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 8: It's first time. I'm just I haven't even officially met her. 731 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 8: We're just sitting right next to each other. And she goes, 732 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 8: huh so hot, and I said, yeah, not like the 733 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 8: Portland days, huh. And she did one little double take 734 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 8: and looked at me and said, are you Ed Rooney's son? 735 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,720 Speaker 8: And she totally got it right away. 736 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 12: My dad was. 737 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 8: One of her favorite teachers in high school here in Portland, 738 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 8: Grant High School. 739 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 9: Yeah. 740 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, and we always had it all in the family 741 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 8: picture up in his office that was signed by Sally Struthers. 742 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 8: So we were very well acquainted with who Sally Struthers was. 743 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 8: He was Grant's rock star. And so to sit next 744 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,720 Speaker 8: to her, I just couldn't I was like a kidne 745 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 8: the candy store. I couldn't wait to, you know, let 746 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 8: her know. And her reaction was priceless. She just one breath. 747 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 8: You're in Rudy's said, aren't you. Yeah, So of course we're, 748 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,919 Speaker 8: you know, fast friends after that. Yeah, And she comes 749 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 8: up to Portland once in a while, and so she 750 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 8: we've had her over for tea and she's she's my 751 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 8: son Abes fairy godmother. Yeah, she agreed to do that 752 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 8: for us. Yeah, great, she's great. 753 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: Scout Taylor Compton as Dean's little sister, Clara. What was 754 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,479 Speaker 1: it like working with Jared? Did you guys click right away? 755 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 12: Yeah? 756 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 16: We did. 757 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 13: Jared So, Jared's such a. 758 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 11: Special human, he really is. 759 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 7: He made me feel like I was actually like his sister, 760 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 7: you know. He made me feel like very welcomed. And 761 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 7: he knows how to you know, he knew how to 762 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 7: work with younger people. I almost worked on Supernatural with him, 763 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 7: which would have been really cool reunion, but that didn't happen. 764 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 7: But yeah, it's he was such a good guy to 765 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 7: work with, really good. As much as I'd like to 766 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 7: say I was team I was probably Team Jess because 767 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 7: I had a big crush of Milea at the time. 768 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 1: Oh you were the one, oh, I said, because I 769 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: couldn't figure out who it was because nobody really likes him. Yeah, 770 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: that was me, That was you. Okay, now we go. 771 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 1: What were you? 772 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 14: What team were you? 773 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,439 Speaker 7: I'm sure you've said it so many times. 774 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: Well, I was always Jess and then I said team 775 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: when when when Jared came out with this campaign. Uh, 776 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: because he suffers from a little depression and he was 777 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 1: helping other people that suffered from depression when he came 778 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: out with that, you know that that very thoughtful and 779 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: very effective campaign to help other people. That then I 780 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: sort of became in twenty fifteen, I at at X 781 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: I I said I was team Jess. I mean team Dan. Sorry, okay, 782 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: because I just I just wanted him to feel a 783 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: little better that, you know, he had my support, not 784 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: that it really mattered to him. 785 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 16: Yeah, ok so an f y. 786 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 7: I I was always team Luke, so there you go. 787 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: I was always and I was always team Clara too. 788 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: I was always like, you know, that's you can have. 789 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 5: There you go. 790 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: Adam Wiley as Brad Langford. What was it like working 791 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 1: with Liza? 792 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, she's I think as as you as you 793 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 2: were aware of the audience may may or may not be. 794 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 2: She's like the nicest person in the world, which made 795 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 2: it so much more fun because I felt so safe 796 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 2: in the environment. She was so wonderful. I remember accidentally, 797 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 2: one time, I think it was the season three wrap party, 798 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 2: I accidentally smacked her across the face. It was an accident, like, okay, 799 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 2: so here's here's the story. There were abetat just being 800 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 2: passed around and I grabbed one and I went to 801 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 2: turn and she happened to turn around at the same time, 802 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,439 Speaker 2: and I accidentally like. 803 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: Ran into her with my end and I was like, oh, 804 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, I'm sorry. 805 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 2: And she's and I think she said, no, it's okay. 806 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 2: I think I deserve it, and then she smacked me 807 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 2: back in such a funny really and it was so 808 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 2: it was such like a great moment that I only 809 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 2: think her and I shared and no one else saw. 810 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 2: That was just perfect. 811 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: That is That's a wonderful story. 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