Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast has never signed a Booby welcome.
Speaker 1: I have to think about that, but it's probably right
Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My
Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansis and I am joined in a
Speaker 1: room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthalt.
Speaker 1: What is up boys? Hey? Na, not related to this show,
Speaker 1: but another go on. Mark, I'm just saying, very saucy
Speaker 1: start to the Wednesday hump Day show and again no
Speaker 1: show on Friday because we will be on airplanes, four
Speaker 1: different airplanes. Really a sign of the times about what's
Speaker 1: happening with the people behind the scenes of the show. Um.
Speaker 1: We will all be flying to Phoenix for the owners meetings,
Speaker 1: where we will be UM interviewing coaches and GM's. Last year,
Speaker 1: I remember this show we were able to tease who
Speaker 1: would be talking to. But this year it seems to
Speaker 1: be coming together, UM a little slower, So we don't
Speaker 1: know yet we'll be speaking to. We We don't have
Speaker 1: any confirmed yeses. We do have six confirmed nose so
Speaker 1: we're gonna stay were quick with those. We're gonna read
Speaker 1: them out loud. One of them is a future Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer. UM. Coach is my favorite team? Oh did
Speaker 1: Bill say no? I mean we put it in. I
Speaker 1: don't think Bill is familiar with the request ever came.
Speaker 1: He was he was door one of eight. Was like absolutely,
Speaker 1: basically that was one to just put fun on our
Speaker 1: list because like, you never know, but he doesn't give
Speaker 1: anyone a shadowy league figure came to us and said,
Speaker 1: make a list, a wish list if you will, of
Speaker 1: coaches and some gms. We did that, and then when
Speaker 1: the list was done, we didn't even think of Belichick
Speaker 1: because Bill was kind of above it all, you know what, rightfully,
Speaker 1: so whatever, congratulations under great success as a fan, but
Speaker 1: we said, why not throw a Bill on there. He
Speaker 1: goes to the owners meetings, He goes there with Linda
Speaker 1: and he where's the Hawaiian shirts? And he has a
Speaker 1: good time. He wears the shorts, puts the calves on.
Speaker 1: We see them play. I think they played some tennis
Speaker 1: one year. We saw them coming back. So when we
Speaker 1: were there, who knows the one thing with Belichick West
Speaker 1: and you know this as a Belichick file, he's unpredictable.
Speaker 1: So would it be completely absurd if he ended up
Speaker 1: on our podcast? Kind of but we had to ask.
Speaker 1: I think he takes a lot of pride in being unpredictable.
Speaker 1: I think that his signature moves. This felt predictable to me.
Speaker 1: That almost like an automatic reply. We got a no
Speaker 1: back within like twelve seconds, and not from Bill either,
Speaker 1: It was from their people probably laughed. I would say,
Speaker 1: one of those, Um, we don't talk about them. Mark
Speaker 1: big show coming up today. Uh, a new seg called
Speaker 1: Loud and Clear, in which we will spin through the
Speaker 1: league and what teams are sending a very obvious succinct
Speaker 1: um on the nose message to all of us like
Speaker 1: a billboard, Like a billboard at Billboard is telling is
Speaker 1: this is this is what we're going for right now.
Speaker 1: So we'll uh, we'll talk about the teams. We believe
Speaker 1: our doing that and we might not all agree as well,
Speaker 1: and that's part of the fun. That's the good thing
Speaker 1: about whether it's sports talk radio or podcasts, you don't
Speaker 1: want everybody in in agreement at all times, so they
Speaker 1: often ask you to manufacture disagreement. Right, we don't do
Speaker 1: that here. It's healthy, nor do we acknowledge joke and uh,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna hit the news as well, including a
Speaker 1: couple of long time packers on the move. And but
Speaker 1: before we do that, we have to say hello to
Speaker 1: a woman who has been missed over the past week
Speaker 1: and a half. Um, Ken Brown filled in did a
Speaker 1: really nice job. But something about Ken Kent is on
Speaker 1: my radar and we're gonna deal with that at the
Speaker 1: end of the show. But otherwise, Kent really did good
Speaker 1: work in your absence. But Ricky Hollywood, Rika Tampos is
Speaker 1: back behind the glass from her trip around the world.
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Ricky, Hello boys, how are we doing? You
Speaker 1: seem refreshed. You actually told us this morning that you
Speaker 1: actually missed us. I did. I did. It was it
Speaker 1: was such a crazy, incredible, amazing, amazing, amazing trip. Um,
Speaker 1: but I did feel a little fomo. I think Dan
Speaker 1: put it really well while you were gone that it
Speaker 1: says a lot about how we feel about you that
Speaker 1: we really didn't give you any grief whatsoever for leaving,
Speaker 1: like during the most busy time of the season, like
Speaker 1: in the most unprofessional We would we would have killed
Speaker 1: other things. Yeah, we would have. In fact, we have
Speaker 1: like we would have been we would have been group
Speaker 1: texting cut you know. But since it's like, hey, it's
Speaker 1: Erica you know, take off. It's cute that she doesn't care.
Speaker 1: I found a refreshing well I to be. To be
Speaker 1: completely honest, I didn't know that it was pretty sorry
Speaker 1: that we don't worry. We know. Um all right, so
Speaker 1: good too good to have you back. Did anybody uh
Speaker 1: recognize you? Any couple of people? Yeah? I met up
Speaker 1: with a couple of people. And then there's this one
Speaker 1: guy who works at a brewery in Scotland who totally
Speaker 1: hooked it up. He DM me and I happened to
Speaker 1: answer that one um, and he there was nine of us.
Speaker 1: He hung out with us, went to the bars with
Speaker 1: us after we invited him out because he was so cool.
Speaker 1: He was. He was such a great guys, really fun.
Speaker 1: So we kind of created that for you in a way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you. He made such an impression. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about a little bit a little bit
Speaker 1: more d M talk later, but for now, let's dig
Speaker 1: into the news that is the voice of Clay Matthews
Speaker 1: during his Green Bay Packer heyday, um, and after a
Speaker 1: long run with the pack he has moved on. Officially.
Speaker 1: He is now a member of the Los Angeles rams
Speaker 1: Um Pass Rusher and he told us he's a pass
Speaker 1: rusher first and foremost. UH signed a two year deal
Speaker 1: worth a max of sixteen point seven five million. The
Speaker 1: Rams of officially announced this it's a done deal. UM
Speaker 1: so the former first round pick overall in the two
Speaker 1: thousand nine draft, number fifty two. This guy will be
Speaker 1: in the Ring of honor UH in Green Bay one day.
Speaker 1: But west in terms of the modern day, UH, what
Speaker 1: does this? Is this a signing that made the Rams better?
Speaker 1: Do you think Clay Matthews has anything left in the
Speaker 1: tank at this age? It's a tricky question. Anytime a
Speaker 1: guy on defense is on the wrong side of thirties
Speaker 1: two coming off a bag year and he had three
Speaker 1: point five sacks in sixteen games only twelve quarterback hits.
Speaker 1: You have one of the lowest pressure rates of any
Speaker 1: pass rusher in the league last year. When a guy
Speaker 1: has a season like that, you never know whether it's
Speaker 1: a sign that he's already off the cliff or if
Speaker 1: in a new scheme he can come in with a
Speaker 1: you know, a change of scenery and have a bounce
Speaker 1: back year. I think he probably has a little bit
Speaker 1: left in the tank, but it was a miserable year
Speaker 1: last year. For him, and he's had one good season
Speaker 1: really at the last three or four, because he's really
Speaker 1: struggled in twenty six. But I do remember, you know,
Speaker 1: DJ talking about and and some people have watched the
Speaker 1: the Wade Phillips defense over time, just talking about how
Speaker 1: many sacks Wade Phillips creates that when Sean Merriman won
Speaker 1: Defensive Rookie of the Year, it's like eleven of those
Speaker 1: sacks where him one on one against a running back,
Speaker 1: and so you're getting Matthews on the outside. They need
Speaker 1: just some sort of capable second pass rusher with Fowler
Speaker 1: he's in a good defense to make him look better. Mark,
Speaker 1: is it you The Rams have been on your radar
Speaker 1: in the past, and I will say this, this is
Speaker 1: such a RAMS signing that sometimes it feels almost too
Speaker 1: cute Clay Matthews joining the Rams. And I know it's
Speaker 1: another guy that you put on the program, But is
Speaker 1: it almost like a too much of a less need
Speaker 1: era RAMS move? Do you do you think this is
Speaker 1: the right move or just like great fit for a
Speaker 1: guy that came from l A and a team that
Speaker 1: likes to have marketable players. I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: it's not an on my radar move because they needed
Speaker 1: past rushing help and it is a little cute to
Speaker 1: you know, take a flyer on claim out, you get
Speaker 1: him back in the colisseum before you move out of it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's part of the adorable. But
Speaker 1: the Rams are a lot less on my radar after
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl good because that's well because it was
Speaker 1: too easy of a story and a lot of it
Speaker 1: felled mate and felt made for tv TV, mostly NFL Network,
Speaker 1: And at this point they've got a harder road back
Speaker 1: that makes them more intriguing. Let me ask you a question,
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. Another move made by the Rams. Blake Bortles,
Speaker 1: cut recently by the Jaguars, the former number three overall pick,
Speaker 1: lands in l A as the backup to Jared Goff.
Speaker 1: Are the Rams today better at backup quarterback than they
Speaker 1: were with Shawn Mannion at the end of the two
Speaker 1: thousand eight This is this an upgrade at the backup position?
Speaker 1: Who knows. I've never seen Sean Mannion play meaningful snaps,
Speaker 1: so it's a tough call. Well, against Vanilla defenses in
Speaker 1: the preseason, he's looked awful. Yeah, it's maybe they're a
Speaker 1: little better. They only have to pay one million dollars,
Speaker 1: which is, you know, the cheapest veteran backup quarterback in
Speaker 1: the league period. So so from that vantage point, they
Speaker 1: needed to save some money to spend it elsewhere. It's fine,
Speaker 1: he's making I think six million overall because the Jags contract, right,
Speaker 1: the Jacks are still paying him five and a half
Speaker 1: million dollars and so they get to pay one million
Speaker 1: dollars less because he has off you know, offsets in
Speaker 1: his contract or whatever. Uh, that's fine. It could it
Speaker 1: does have one of those moves that has a chance
Speaker 1: to make Sean McVeigh look like like a genius, because
Speaker 1: like if he comes in and has two or three
Speaker 1: games that everyone's just loved. I mean, I think the
Speaker 1: Rams are telling you it's a better situation. They had
Speaker 1: four years to self scout Mannion and at a time
Speaker 1: seemed like they liked him a lot, and he's gone.
Speaker 1: They brought someone else into replace him. You spend all
Speaker 1: that time with him and you found someone, but they
Speaker 1: very low amount of money, right, And they also did
Speaker 1: that thing where it's like hey Sean manny and you know, Mike,
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe another team will take a chance on
Speaker 1: him for a third or fourth round pick to be
Speaker 1: It's like, no, all that talking up is not going
Speaker 1: to make someone give up a draft. If like twenty
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks were like eternally kidnapped, then Sean Mannion's value
Speaker 1: starts to hike. I've compared McVeigh to this generation's Bill Walsh,
Speaker 1: who famously rehabilitated Steve Young when he was at the
Speaker 1: bottom of his career and turned him into a Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer. Steve Young did not have a major, major,
Speaker 1: major mechanical flaw that everybody has tried to fix and
Speaker 1: cannot fix. I think that's the difference. I don't know
Speaker 1: if Blake Bortles is fixable. Marks eternally kidnapped a nice
Speaker 1: way of saying someone was you know, well, they're not
Speaker 1: coming back and we'll be looking for them for a
Speaker 1: long time. So it's a it's a kidnapp being likely
Speaker 1: a death, but the case is never solved. I don't
Speaker 1: know where you come up with likely a death. That's
Speaker 1: that's that would preclude you from being an investigator. You
Speaker 1: need it into that they've been kidnapped that much. We
Speaker 1: know got a triple source it. So Greg stress like
Speaker 1: in some sort of what Los Angeles p I today.
Speaker 1: But you've got to actually I would love to take in.
Speaker 1: I would love to. I mean they would put me
Speaker 1: on the missing quarterbacks case twenty two disappear all at once.
Speaker 1: I mean that that's gonna be a long case. Uh,
Speaker 1: and other kind of things to find out. So Clay
Speaker 1: Matthews his history in Green Bay, so is Randall Cobb. Um.
Speaker 1: In the second wave of free agency, the slot receiver
Speaker 1: agrees to sign with the Dallas Cowboys. UH deal worth
Speaker 1: five million, one year contracts, So essentially approve a deal
Speaker 1: for Cobb who has been in regression statistically for several
Speaker 1: years now. But the Cowboys, after letting Cole Beasley leave
Speaker 1: to go to Buffalo, get Cobb. Mark, what do you
Speaker 1: think about this move? Is in an upgrade in big
Speaker 1: day at the slot? It is not an upgrade. It's
Speaker 1: underwhelming attached to a sort of starry name of a
Speaker 1: player who, like we point out, with ten to twelve
Speaker 1: guys who make these kind of signings every offseason. What
Speaker 1: it's beyond the name? Who are who is this player? Today?
Speaker 1: I would rather have Cole Beasley. That was such a
Speaker 1: they split there. It didn't go down. Well, and you've
Speaker 1: you've you've downgraded essentially, right, he's much cheaper that I
Speaker 1: think they were looking to save money at the position.
Speaker 1: But five millions. I'm the only one who seems to
Speaker 1: like this. I know Cobb is you know, it's more
Speaker 1: about the game name thing West and all that, But
Speaker 1: game names doesn't it doesn't. Doesn't it feel like Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: we give a total pass and we are Oh, well,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy was ruining him and the whole system is stagnant, rendal.
Speaker 1: Cobb was also playing, and that says maybe a fresh
Speaker 1: start and his career could be uh, you know, relaunched
Speaker 1: in a way. Well, I would retort with, if he
Speaker 1: can't do it with Aaron Rodgers, what makes you think
Speaker 1: you can do with Dak Prescott and averaging ten yards
Speaker 1: per catch and about three touchdowns per years, ain't getting
Speaker 1: it done. I think Greg's right. The juice and the
Speaker 1: juice in his legs evaporated a few years ago when
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick when you're a extremely versatile and tough, smart
Speaker 1: slot receiver and the Patriots have no interest in you,
Speaker 1: to me, that's that's a bad signed. The Packers really
Speaker 1: had no interest uh in keeping him, So please stop it,
Speaker 1: social media managers with your this is this Cowboys offense
Speaker 1: starting attacked is fire? Cob well, that's they're just that's
Speaker 1: there that It was like, it was like this Cowboys
Speaker 1: lineup is fire. Dak Okay, that's fine. I mean Zee
Speaker 1: is great, and then and then Cooper Cob Witten. It
Speaker 1: was like, okay, just names. Remember how they dealt with
Speaker 1: Bryce Petty on the Jets. Not everything is fire. It
Speaker 1: was a quarterback competition in New York. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got to be careful. It's like our you know,
Speaker 1: I love our NFL note social media team. But they
Speaker 1: had one yesterday. They were like, name a better quarterback
Speaker 1: wide running back combo than and they had a picture
Speaker 1: of Lamar Jackson and mark Ingram and then everyone was like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's like twenty two ones better than that. That's not
Speaker 1: not that, and get ready, get ready, it's trope season.
Speaker 1: Remember last year, I believe it was Stephen Jones who
Speaker 1: told us that Tavon Austin, the web back, was going
Speaker 1: to have twenty touches in Dallas's offense. And well guess what,
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb will have catches probably will be a piction.
Speaker 1: We hear at some point that he will become a
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl level slot guy once more. It's still there,
Speaker 1: by the way, a move that you know never made
Speaker 1: it to seven parts last year of our show, but
Speaker 1: he was resigned. I would I would actually take the
Speaker 1: over on. I think I would go Austin over Randall
Speaker 1: Cobbs Yards. No way, I'm just gonna lean into it
Speaker 1: von Austin. Like circling back to the absurdity of the
Speaker 1: statement last spring about all the touches, I think he
Speaker 1: got less than ten touches total the entire year, like
Speaker 1: two and a half months, had eight receptions in six rushes,
Speaker 1: fourteen touches. Alright, Moving on, did not take long for
Speaker 1: Vante's Perfect to find work. Day after the veteran linebacker
Speaker 1: was cut by the Cincinnati Bengals, he signs a one
Speaker 1: year contract worth up to five million UH with the
Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders, and he reunites with d C Paul Gunther,
Speaker 1: who was the d C U Cincinnati from twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: Perfect's golden years. Uh. It also wes you might find
Speaker 1: this interesting, reunites Perfect with Antonio Brown, the man he
Speaker 1: viciously concussed in the two thousand fifteen playoffs, also or
Speaker 1: sixteen playoffs one one of the lowest moments in the
Speaker 1: history of a franchise that's had a lot of low
Speaker 1: moments that Saturday night in Cincinnati, I'd say more mused
Speaker 1: than interesting. Okay interested? Um, yeah, I think the Raiders
Speaker 1: are really taking it back to the seventies as far
Speaker 1: as who they're bringing into their franchise right now and
Speaker 1: bringing in the guy who tried to decapitate the receiver
Speaker 1: you just traded for a guy who can't hurt him that.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, what are the odds Vontes Perfect is
Speaker 1: on the week one roster. People have told him he
Speaker 1: shouldn't play anymore because he has concussions, and he might
Speaker 1: be the one guy who says, I don't really care.
Speaker 1: You know, I'd rather play football than care about my
Speaker 1: health long term. But I don't even see Vontes Perfect
Speaker 1: is guaranteed to be on this roster. Well, if you're
Speaker 1: Mark Davis, you're gonna have to get out you're a
Speaker 1: little typewriter and prepare all these ownership notes saying we
Speaker 1: totally believe in Vante's Perfect and we're we back him.
Speaker 1: No matter what he does, the same way that Mike
Speaker 1: Brown didn't Cincinnati ready for that. It's a it's a
Speaker 1: reminder to that. It's especially on the pro side. Maybe
Speaker 1: not the draft, but this is Gruden's this is Gruden's party,
Speaker 1: this is his show. He is in charge. It's it's
Speaker 1: not you didn't know by now plug in. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I don't think like Mike Mack would be signing
Speaker 1: Vont's perfect. Uh. Antonio Brown had this to say about
Speaker 1: Vonte's perfect. It's all positive, man, Maybe now it is.
Speaker 1: It wasn't then. Speaking of Brown, the former steel or
Speaker 1: his former Steeler teammate, levy On Bell becomes the latest
Speaker 1: player to publicly tee off on Ben Roethlisberger. Uh. In
Speaker 1: a interview with Sports Illustrator Sports Illustrated it sounds like
Speaker 1: a good magazine. Also, Bell discussed his experience with Big
Speaker 1: Ben and Uh. He had this to say. The organization
Speaker 1: wants to win. Tomlin wants to win. Ben wants to win,
Speaker 1: but Ben wants to win his way, and that's tough
Speaker 1: to play with. Ben won a super Bowl, but he
Speaker 1: won when he was younger. Now he's at this stage
Speaker 1: where he tries to control everything, and the team let
Speaker 1: him get there. So if I'm met at a player
Speaker 1: and I'm not throwing him the ball, if I'm not
Speaker 1: throwing a b the ball, and I'm giving Juju all
Speaker 1: the shine or Jesse or Vance or whoever it is,
Speaker 1: and you know consciously you're making your other receiver mad,
Speaker 1: but you don't care. Well, it's hard to win that way.
Speaker 1: Well me tee you up on this, Chris Wessling, because
Speaker 1: you know, first of all, yes, the Steelers have not
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl and whatever it is now this
Speaker 1: will be ten years, ten years. But in Big Ben's
Speaker 1: illustrious career, and it has been an illustrious career, maybe
Speaker 1: not always off the field, but on the field. Uh.
Speaker 1: He just came off a five thousand yards thirty five
Speaker 1: touchdown season. He's gonna be in the top five and
Speaker 1: all passing categories. He's won two Super Bowls, uh and
Speaker 1: been to three. In almost every other case, that type
Speaker 1: of resume is unimpeachable, and you don't get killed ever
Speaker 1: in the press by your players. But Ben seems to
Speaker 1: be the exception to the rule. Consider the source Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown and Levian Bell, who by the way, are making
Speaker 1: many more millions because they played with Ben Roethlisberger instead
Speaker 1: of an Airics quarterback. They lost all credibility with with me.
Speaker 1: One guy couldn't report to his teammates for the entire season.
Speaker 1: The other guy couldn't report to his teammates in the
Speaker 1: biggest game of the year, and now they're criticizing the
Speaker 1: quarterback who does report to his teammates. I just don't
Speaker 1: care by that. By that logic, you wouldn't care what
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger had to say. This is a guy who's
Speaker 1: you know, almost lost his spot pea because he's sexually
Speaker 1: assaulted women. So that's not the same logic. I mean,
Speaker 1: but we're we've heard from teammates throughout his career. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I don't care what these two players have to say
Speaker 1: about anyone, right right. I do find it interesting in
Speaker 1: today's day and age, though, to hear anyone talk about
Speaker 1: their own quarterback or their former quarterbacks away because people
Speaker 1: just stay away from it. It It used to be much
Speaker 1: more common in sixties and seventies. You would talk some
Speaker 1: trash about your old teammates, about you know, good players
Speaker 1: on other teams. It was just sort of part of yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's normal. It's like, we don't like everyone in
Speaker 1: this building. Sometimes we talked trash about him on this show. Subtly,
Speaker 1: you know, they don't like some people don't like us,
Speaker 1: like people don't like their co workers. But it's unique
Speaker 1: at a quarterback position to see it pretty widespread throughout
Speaker 1: his career, not just whispers, but people talking on the record.
Speaker 1: They have wrote they have voted team m VPS in
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh for sixteen years of Ben Roethlisberger's career. He's
Speaker 1: one at one. Here's the last winners. Antonio Brown, Heath Miller,
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, Leave Bell, Antonio Brown, Leave Bell, Antonio Brown,
Speaker 1: Juju Smith. That tells tells me something that your teammates,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, don't like, or at least enough of them,
Speaker 1: don't like the way you do business. I'm with you,
Speaker 1: but the the idea of comparing it to working in
Speaker 1: a big company doesn't fly with me, because we automatically
Speaker 1: dislike a bunch of people in our company because there's
Speaker 1: different tiers of us. And when we rip on people,
Speaker 1: typically ripping on the people up on the third floor
Speaker 1: that didn't do enough in anyone above you. But I
Speaker 1: think to the point and I get the sourcing of
Speaker 1: of Bell and brown or is dubious on some level,
Speaker 1: and that says more about them, probably all of this
Speaker 1: than anything else. But they're talking about the locker room,
Speaker 1: and they're talking about the fact that there's a player
Speaker 1: or players, but certainly Big Ben that is treated within
Speaker 1: within a dose of favoritism by coaches and ownership and
Speaker 1: everyone else, and they don't like that part of it.
Speaker 1: The other thing is that big Ben by now is
Speaker 1: so much older than the vast majority of the people
Speaker 1: he plays with on the Steelers, Like we just heard you.
Speaker 1: Ever hear this about Breeze or Rivers or Brady or
Speaker 1: I think they're fundamentally different people. Not everyone's going to
Speaker 1: be a great leader necessarily, but big Ben has been
Speaker 1: there for the team. Here's the thing I've been making
Speaker 1: the case forever. I think big Ben is weirdly underrated.
Speaker 1: I mean, he has an unbelievable quarterback. It really doesn't
Speaker 1: change that much about that. It's just interesting to hear
Speaker 1: the people around him bring this up. And I should
Speaker 1: make it clear, Greg, something you said earlier. There were
Speaker 1: allegations attached to Roethlisberger the sexual assault, and it led
Speaker 1: to a six game suspension by the league for violating
Speaker 1: the Personal Conduct Policy, And I wonder how much of
Speaker 1: that will always linger with him and inside a locker room,
Speaker 1: because you don't see any of the other big names
Speaker 1: have that type of well, it's a character. I mean,
Speaker 1: the whole story behind them winning the Super Bowl the
Speaker 1: first time around was this guy Roethlisberger rubbed everyone the
Speaker 1: wrong way. And okay, they kind of when they won
Speaker 1: in the end, it's kind of like he want us
Speaker 1: over a little bit that hey, this guy is good
Speaker 1: that he won, But when he first came in, Heinz
Speaker 1: war Jerome Bettis, it's like they thought this guy was
Speaker 1: a jerk and so and so that much video Brown's
Speaker 1: talking up Vontes perfect is a perfect teammate. So you
Speaker 1: never know, Let's see what I'll be interesting to see
Speaker 1: what Antonio Brown is saying about Derek carry after the
Speaker 1: season and left Bell about Jets management. I get West's
Speaker 1: side of it as well. It's it's but it is
Speaker 1: interesting because it's just it doesn't happen and usually and
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz being a perfect example a couple of months ago,
Speaker 1: if a quarterback in the face of the franchise or
Speaker 1: the biggest star or the longest lasting star of the
Speaker 1: franchise catches fire. You'll have guys coming to his defense
Speaker 1: and saying Ben's a hero, He's a legend on his team.
Speaker 1: He's a leader that doesn't seem to happen uh in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: His interactions with the media, Ben Roth is the way
Speaker 1: he talks about his teammates sometimes the way just I
Speaker 1: just think for whatever reason, he rubs people the wrong way.
Speaker 1: I agree with that, and I'm not defending his character.
Speaker 1: I think he does have character issues. I also think
Speaker 1: every quarterback in the history of the NFL who's been
Speaker 1: with the same franchise for fifteen years as the face
Speaker 1: of the franchise gets preferential treatment. That's just the way
Speaker 1: it's done. I don't have a huge way problem with that.
Speaker 1: If you're if you if you're a fan of a
Speaker 1: team and he's been there for fifteen years, one you
Speaker 1: multiple super Bowls. He's my favorite. Whole idea of like
Speaker 1: Bell and Brown and these guys, they're getting mad because
Speaker 1: they think that he's, you know, preferring some teammates to others.
Speaker 1: And there is that whole, you know, rumor, which is
Speaker 1: kind of nonsense that he intentionally fumbled because he didn't
Speaker 1: like a play call that Todd Haley made, which I
Speaker 1: don't find credible at all, and there's proof that that's
Speaker 1: not true. But it's just the fact that his teammates
Speaker 1: were thinking it is just interesting and you know, unique
Speaker 1: that they Antonio Brown, by the way, for all the
Speaker 1: speculation and the whispers and insinuations that he was looking
Speaker 1: to Juju, Yes, Juju lad the league in catches or whatever,
Speaker 1: but Antonio Brown got his two. I think he was
Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifteen last year. So he used
Speaker 1: to like where it was, wanting to go around the right.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Peyton Manning. How about that guy? He's uh,
Speaker 1: he's you know, a little quiet. He's out of football
Speaker 1: now and he has not gotten into broadcasting like many
Speaker 1: people thought he would. Well check out those ESPN plus
Speaker 1: things or whatever he's doing. I did not check those outs.
Speaker 1: Is he trying to pump it up? But I haven't
Speaker 1: really seen it. I'm only connected to n or something,
Speaker 1: and I'm also connected to golden moments presented by McDonald's
Speaker 1: introducing the new Big Mac with bacon, cheesy bacon fries
Speaker 1: and quarter pounder with Bacon at participating McDonald's for a
Speaker 1: limited time only? Is it the best thing to happen
Speaker 1: to McDonald's classics or to Bacon? On that note, what
Speaker 1: is the golden moment of the week? How about a
Speaker 1: golden moment for Peyton Manning finally making the move nailed
Speaker 1: it into broadcasting. ESPN is courting the great quarterback UH
Speaker 1: to join its Monday Night Football team. This coming from
Speaker 1: the Hollywood Reporter, so from a real source. ESPN President
Speaker 1: Jimmy Pataro in content chief Connor Shell made a trip
Speaker 1: to Denver on March eleven to meet with Manning, who
Speaker 1: has been mentioned before, of course, for a broadcast role
Speaker 1: UH Monday Night Football. Coming off a semi disastrous two
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen season, UH got bailed out by the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: who hired Jason Witten out of the booth. The Burger
Speaker 1: Burger mobile is dead, obviously, there are changes coming, and
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning sliding into the booth to me makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense. I know I'm probably a much bigger
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning fan as a personality than everyone else in
Speaker 1: this room, but I think he could potentially be a
Speaker 1: big hit UH in this role. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he would do it, but that's my two cents. Now
Speaker 1: I'm closer to you, I would like to see what
Speaker 1: Peyton Meeting does. I don't know. I think it's too
Speaker 1: hard to predict whether he'd be great or good. I
Speaker 1: don't it's hard to imagine him being terrible. You never
Speaker 1: you know, just because he seems comfortable on a microphone.
Speaker 1: But I think he's been great and support it. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's smart, he's got a sense of humor, he has
Speaker 1: a intellectual viewpoint of the game that is almost unmatched. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's comfortable in front of the camera. You add it
Speaker 1: all up, and I think he has I don't want
Speaker 1: to say Romo like potential, but he has potential to
Speaker 1: be an instant star as well. And if I'm ESPN,
Speaker 1: I would roll the dice and go after him hard. Now,
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning has more money than God with between Papa
Speaker 1: John's and his playing days, he might not need this job.
Speaker 1: This is not like a like a cupcake thing where
Speaker 1: you just roll someone into It's a ton of work.
Speaker 1: It's a ton of analysis. You're under a lot of
Speaker 1: pressure coming off the Witten thing to come in and
Speaker 1: shine and me, and I think Tony Romo has made
Speaker 1: this a much tougher gig for anyone stepping in where
Speaker 1: you've done no broadcasting and then suddenly you're supposed to
Speaker 1: jump in. Is the color analysts on Monday Night football?
Speaker 1: You know eight months from now? That is not an
Speaker 1: easy job and it's funny at Joe Thomas was asked
Speaker 1: a couple of times this past week because he's been
Speaker 1: linked to it a few times, Hey, wouldn't you want
Speaker 1: to do this? Wouldn't this be such a dream for you?
Speaker 1: And he basically was like, I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I watched Jason Witten do this and he didn't seem
Speaker 1: like he was having any funds, so it gave him pause.
Speaker 1: And it's like, I think, what happened to broadcasting where
Speaker 1: you go find out if you're good at it number
Speaker 1: one for a couple of years and if you enjoy
Speaker 1: it before because what if? What if Peyton Manning isn't
Speaker 1: is great, that's great, but he was an ultra dud
Speaker 1: A we have to suffer for it. It totally flames
Speaker 1: his entire The way we look at Peyton Manning the
Speaker 1: same way we look entirely different at Jason Witten. Now
Speaker 1: it's about, you know, the Pro Bowl trophy falling apart
Speaker 1: and the four or five lines he had that no
Speaker 1: one can forget. If that's Peyton Manning in a year,
Speaker 1: if he if he flounders it because that happened, That's
Speaker 1: happened to other big time quarterbacks. And I think Johnny
Speaker 1: Unit has flamed out. Hardcore is a broadcast, that's part
Speaker 1: of the game, that's part of the industry. It doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: He has to, he has to really want it that
Speaker 1: that particular station or channel or broadcast whatever. I know,
Speaker 1: I'm tilting night wind Mills here. I just wish they
Speaker 1: cared a little bit more about the actual broadcast of
Speaker 1: the game and a little bit less about names, bells
Speaker 1: and whistles, graphics, storylines. But this is what they're doing.
Speaker 1: They're taking a guy who's never broadcasted. Nobody has a right.
Speaker 1: He's the exception, and now everybody wants the romo. Witten
Speaker 1: was among the worst we've ever seen in any sport.
Speaker 1: I mean, Peyton Manning is not a good speaker. I
Speaker 1: think he's got a terrible sense of humor. He's not funny,
Speaker 1: and he's probably not gonna be a good and Atlip
Speaker 1: that for your social real and I want that set
Speaker 1: down on NFL channel. I am definitely a bigger fan
Speaker 1: of Peyton Manning than other people in this. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would like it. I think you'd be worth the shot.
Speaker 1: Here's the bigger thing. I don't think he's worried about legacy,
Speaker 1: all that stuff, or you know what, his reputation, because
Speaker 1: I think when he if he was gonna do it,
Speaker 1: he'd want to do a great job. The bigger thing
Speaker 1: is he can do whatever he wants in his life.
Speaker 1: And this takes up. Suddenly you're back in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I know it's not like the player, but you're on
Speaker 1: the road for twenty four weeks a year. You've got
Speaker 1: some young kids, you've got a wife who you really
Speaker 1: you know, you haven't really been around at home that much.
Speaker 1: And suddenly you're like, buy from Friday to Monday. He
Speaker 1: can't go hang out in New Orleans and watch Eli
Speaker 1: play the Saints. He can't do whatever he wants on
Speaker 1: the golf course or whatever Peyton Manning's doing. They're recording
Speaker 1: him and he is recording. Anyone's like, that's a lot
Speaker 1: to give up all right. And finally in the news,
Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon got another job. He is the new backup
Speaker 1: quarterback of the New York Jets. With Josh McCown undecided
Speaker 1: on his future, Simeon joins the room that includes Davis Webb.
Speaker 1: Remember Davis's Webb so uh uh. And similarly, there are
Speaker 1: people that are bigger Trevor Simeon fans in this room
Speaker 1: than me. Um, I love this Jets team set up
Speaker 1: bad getting all my favorite I love I love James
Speaker 1: him all together. I love Jamison Crowder. You got Levy
Speaker 1: and Bell love him? Uh Simeon, that's a nice solid
Speaker 1: backup too. Else did they add one of those about it? Um?
Speaker 1: All right, that's what's happening, Tom Compton And then Tom
Speaker 1: Compton is a huge signing. We got Chandler Canna's arrow
Speaker 1: back in the building. Henry Anderson, they resigned him. That
Speaker 1: was kind of an under the radar one that was
Speaker 1: like Daniel Brown tight end from the Bears. Who doesn't
Speaker 1: like Tomorrow Adams right now? Great Twitter account. I'm getting
Speaker 1: a little nervous by the way it's coming. Um. The
Speaker 1: Jets new uniforms. It's a sneaky more stressful expan experience
Speaker 1: than I expected. It's it's it's an important time and
Speaker 1: if it goes wrong, I can tell you personally, all
Speaker 1: you'll have is just a bunch of knuckleheads. To you.
Speaker 1: It'll be your fault that the uniform doesn't work. I
Speaker 1: assume I assume that's how it was. It could be
Speaker 1: like you too, you make a disastrous uniform change and
Speaker 1: then you win six Super Bowls over eighteen years, and
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, what are you calling that you're
Speaker 1: not a fan of the Patriots current uniforms to bad
Speaker 1: uniforms by the way, But but using the page as
Speaker 1: an example, what didn't used to be such a big
Speaker 1: deal when uniform new uniforms are rolled out. They would
Speaker 1: just show up one year. Yeah that's fair. There wasn't
Speaker 1: all the attention. But I do remember. And they switched
Speaker 1: the uniforms because they also coincided with parcels that it
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, like everyone, at least in
Speaker 1: the New England area. It was such a like meaningful
Speaker 1: moment of like, okay, we're gonna change. Now we've got
Speaker 1: the flying ELVI. Nashville got the draft because of their
Speaker 1: uniform unveiling a year ago when they got like fifty
Speaker 1: people in town square. But that's true story. They also
Speaker 1: had a music act that was playing, but that was
Speaker 1: seen as like a major um win for the entire
Speaker 1: downtown sector, showing how alive the city was for this
Speaker 1: unveiling of the Tytoons universe. I did not know that
Speaker 1: a little fact to it. Look it up. That's how
Speaker 1: they decide who goes to the draft. That's not exactly
Speaker 1: what I said. So it helped them. It helped in
Speaker 1: the the pitch of Nashville as the draft occasion. All Right,
Speaker 1: I just told you it. Now, you know? Are you
Speaker 1: annoyed that we're like stunned that you know something that
Speaker 1: we did not that that happens all the time. A
Speaker 1: little surprising. Um, that's what's happening in the news. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's see what are we wanna do, Ricky? What's going
Speaker 1: on with your d ms? We talked about it before
Speaker 1: you went away. They're pretty good. You want to hear one, Yes,
Speaker 1: let's here, let's hear one of your d m s.
Speaker 1: Is that desert right? Um? That's my that's my intro.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a sound like Joe Martin. Is
Speaker 1: that your vocals. No, No, it's just in our library.
Speaker 1: Can I hear that again? Yeah? Sure. Now it's time
Speaker 1: for Ricky's d MS. Poor man kind of like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, all right, what's in your d MS? Al Right,
Speaker 1: today's from at sirious m h. You are slightly bent
Speaker 1: over in every picture. It's very amusing. Okay, alright the
Speaker 1: whole give us the closing music. What are you supposed
Speaker 1: to do with that information? Stand up straight? I was
Speaker 1: expecting something far more vile in the m Well, that's
Speaker 1: that's you know, you're starting slow, not so subtly suggestive.
Speaker 1: In my mind, it is body talk. I think it's
Speaker 1: like a bent it's a weird. It's just a weird
Speaker 1: route that you're going down to me. I mean, like
Speaker 1: when you're with other people in photos or something. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what they mean. And this is a man
Speaker 1: or a woman or what serious is also a radio networks?
Speaker 1: Yeah it's not. No, it's like s E R I
Speaker 1: O U S not. Maybe that code doesn't need to
Speaker 1: be correct. Speaking of if you, if you do like
Speaker 1: Ricky vocals, she broke out some rap songs that she
Speaker 1: recorded as a teen on the jin Nick and Rosenthal
Speaker 1: Van project and they are something else. Put a lot
Speaker 1: of time into them, like chairs of my life. When
Speaker 1: I was seen, it's like you had a wrap. It
Speaker 1: was shocking, natural recovering um solid production. Though solid production.
Speaker 1: I will say one of the songs was kind of
Speaker 1: a bang her, but but the rapping was embarrassing. It
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't good. It would have been good to
Speaker 1: share on our podcast. But it seems be happy to play.
Speaker 1: That was the most predicted for that conversation. As I
Speaker 1: was I was like, should I bring this up for No,
Speaker 1: it's good withholding the content and pitching the other show.
Speaker 1: Same time segment time loud and click. I have any
Speaker 1: control loud and clear and this is a segment in
Speaker 1: which West what do we do? What are we doing
Speaker 1: on loud and Clear? It's about a billboard, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Some organizations have sent very clear messages in the first
Speaker 1: week of free agency as far as how they see
Speaker 1: themselves and where they are going in two thousand nineteen.
Speaker 1: They might as well put this message on a billboard
Speaker 1: because it's that obvious. It's so easy to see the
Speaker 1: clarity is there. It's like play like a jet that
Speaker 1: was the jet that was their old one, right, that's
Speaker 1: not really that which came from play like a raven
Speaker 1: and warped in to play like a brown or like well,
Speaker 1: that's unlike the mirage is usually trumped up by marketing campaigns.
Speaker 1: These are actual things that are happening. All right, here
Speaker 1: we go. We're gonna spend through the divisions and throw
Speaker 1: out some different teams. Let's start in the A f
Speaker 1: C East and West. The Buffalo bills. What are they
Speaker 1: being loud and clear about. We are out of cap
Speaker 1: jail and back among the living. That's what the billboard says,
Speaker 1: and underneath it just says, really in small letters, were
Speaker 1: determined to showcase Josh Allen as our electric talent. Everything
Speaker 1: they're doing is determined to get Josh Allen a lot
Speaker 1: more help than he had last year, because they have
Speaker 1: the dollars to do it now. They also they end
Speaker 1: up in cap jail. By the way, the Doug Whale
Speaker 1: I believe was the previous GM left them in some
Speaker 1: straits that the new GM didn't considered kind of dire,
Speaker 1: so they were willing to sacrifice two thousand eight. Usually
Speaker 1: there's you know a lot of star players or big
Speaker 1: signings that go sideways. I assume that's how it happened.
Speaker 1: From sentence No, I mean even now here are their
Speaker 1: highest paid players. It's remarkable Star Low that's their number one.
Speaker 1: Mitch Morris is number two. I mean, so they could
Speaker 1: they have some more spending to go to your point,
Speaker 1: I mean, col Beasley's gotta be up there. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: seventh behind Joe Brown, Trent Murphy law, John Brown. I
Speaker 1: agree that they they believe Sean McDermott I think is
Speaker 1: a quality head coach. I agree with him, and I
Speaker 1: think they're giving him every chance possible. This is year
Speaker 1: three for McDermott to to make a real push that
Speaker 1: his coaching can coach up the defense, but that the
Speaker 1: offense under Brian Dable needed way, way, way more talent,
Speaker 1: and they were aggressive about I mean they also talk
Speaker 1: about Doug Whaley. They allowed Doug Whalley the previous ownership
Speaker 1: and this current ownership to hang around and in house
Speaker 1: fight from what we know, with multiple head coaches who
Speaker 1: are not long for the organization. So whatever he left
Speaker 1: him in, they also had to make moves. That's an
Speaker 1: offense that needed outside of quarterback, some help at every
Speaker 1: single position, especially up front. You got, Yeah, you got
Speaker 1: a center, you got you actually got a tackle Titan
Speaker 1: and Shiky always thought is that I don't know how
Speaker 1: to pronounce his name. Always pretty good. Uh in Washington,
Speaker 1: couple receivers, pretty clear in the center, did a nice
Speaker 1: job in free agency. And well, I mean, what are
Speaker 1: you doing if you draft a quarterback in the top
Speaker 1: ten and then you don't immediately set about trying to
Speaker 1: put him in a position to improve and succeed your loss?
Speaker 1: So Buffalo, good job. Let's move to a f C North.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hit every team. We're just gonna jump
Speaker 1: around a little bit. Uh West, Let's uh, let's go
Speaker 1: with the Cleveland Browns, a team. Uh. I know that
Speaker 1: you are falling in love with every day a little
Speaker 1: bit more. Their message loud and clear. We have caught
Speaker 1: lightning in a bottle. We are galvanizing our fan base
Speaker 1: and it's high time we rere we re emerge as
Speaker 1: a glamour franchise in NFL show piece. They're gonna be
Speaker 1: one of the top eight or nine franchises in the
Speaker 1: NFL again. This sign would go where the lebron On
Speaker 1: image was. It's gonna go on, It's like a mural
Speaker 1: on the side of a building works and it's I
Speaker 1: mean again, is I guess you're referring to the eighties Browns.
Speaker 1: I was referring. I don't want to see Lebron James
Speaker 1: by the way of Brown's games. I don't want to
Speaker 1: see because they're gonna be a prime time like what
Speaker 1: six or seven times? I don't need the cutaways to
Speaker 1: Lebron and the suite and I know it's coming. But
Speaker 1: Lebron's Browns fan. Now, yes, now he's a brown San
Speaker 1: because him and O'Dell or Buddies and all you already
Speaker 1: made you're a Cowboys fan, yeah, you know, And we
Speaker 1: talked about root for your friends. He left Cleveland literally
Speaker 1: from there, he's literally from and why didn't exactly he's
Speaker 1: been wearing a Cowboys he's been going to big Cowboys fan.
Speaker 1: He was after them and the Yankees fan. He was
Speaker 1: at the Rams Cowboys game. Are we talking about Lebron
Speaker 1: a games? Why do I have the least amount of
Speaker 1: problem with him rooting for the Browns on the side
Speaker 1: half this room roots from all simple teams all the time.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's that you can choose what you
Speaker 1: want to do. It's just he he kind of played
Speaker 1: up the Cowboys pretty hard over the past, and then
Speaker 1: the same guy with the Yankees and the Lakers and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Give me a break. We all have friends
Speaker 1: like that front Runner Mark. The Cincinnati Bengals, what does
Speaker 1: their billboards say, Well, it's sort of you know, you
Speaker 1: drive from Cleveland down to Cincinnati, get a different message.
Speaker 1: It basically says for me because when I think of
Speaker 1: the Bengals, I think of Wes He he had enough
Speaker 1: with the Bengals, but you still have a little bit
Speaker 1: of Reds fandom, and you have a lot of Reds fandom,
Speaker 1: all right, and the Reds are in baseball, and the
Speaker 1: Bengals are saying unlike in baseball, the NFL allows thirty
Speaker 1: two teams to compete equally from a financial standpoint, but
Speaker 1: we cutting against the grain are going to operate like
Speaker 1: a local, moneyless, family run MLB team that you can
Speaker 1: count out before the season even starts. Wordy billboard, A
Speaker 1: little wordy. I mean it's like you're driving along the
Speaker 1: highway and you get part of the message. There's like
Speaker 1: multiple billboards in a row. Well those are three three billboards,
Speaker 1: and it's like the defensive coordinator hiring, which became a
Speaker 1: bit of a social media joke how long it took
Speaker 1: to to find their guy. It just seems like Cincinnati's
Speaker 1: playing from behind in general right now. From what I
Speaker 1: can gather, the Bengals believe that they started out last
Speaker 1: year three in one, and every team can use injuries
Speaker 1: in an excuse. I know that the Bengals believe if
Speaker 1: not for injuries, specifically the Tyler Eiffort injury that really
Speaker 1: hurt their offense, they would have been a playoff team.
Speaker 1: Then does Zach Taylor have any power inside that building?
Speaker 1: I mean, they did lose Andy Dalton and Green first.
Speaker 1: I still don't think that my Tyler Eiffort. My problem
Speaker 1: is the Bengals even before there was there was the
Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen season where it looked like it
Speaker 1: was all going to happen potentially, and they were talented.
Speaker 1: But the Bengals in general going into last year, I
Speaker 1: don't care about three in one. Don't try to pitch
Speaker 1: me this idea that you're this playoff team that's going
Speaker 1: to suddenly show up in the a f C title game.
Speaker 1: Are mediocred? They stuck with the mediocre quarterback for ages,
Speaker 1: and they were they they're the they're the ones who
Speaker 1: don't seem to care. Might be the most balanced Division two.
Speaker 1: So that's it's. Those are six tough games in the divisions.
Speaker 1: It's and I think it's a moratorium now on but
Speaker 1: remember two thousand fifteen and now too much time has passed.
Speaker 1: It's it's just a different situation with a whole different vibe.
Speaker 1: And since that it's not a good one, let's move
Speaker 1: to a f C South. Another team that's on the
Speaker 1: rise in West's heart rankings, the Tennessee Titoons. This is
Speaker 1: the team that inspired this segment. I believe they have
Speaker 1: sent the clearest and loudest message with their moves, starting
Speaker 1: with Adam Humphries, which was the missing ingredient offense. Sides
Speaker 1: quarterback Well Mariota is much better between the hashes. He's good,
Speaker 1: he's a good passer in the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: He's not good on the outside and down the field,
Speaker 1: which is surprising that they've never had a really bona
Speaker 1: fide slot receiver. This gives them that missing ingredient offense.
Speaker 1: Then Roger Staffeld, the best run blocking offensive lineman in
Speaker 1: free agency that was a priority Cameron Wake, which is
Speaker 1: the quintessential win. When now pass Rusher and Ryan Tannehill,
Speaker 1: they're saying this roster is good enough to do postseason
Speaker 1: damage even if our quarterback goes down. I think they're
Speaker 1: also And what I like about their front office has
Speaker 1: been one of our favorites in the past, not so
Speaker 1: too much last year, is you're almost building around the
Speaker 1: quarterback right now because it's very possible that there is
Speaker 1: no Marcus Mariotta or Ryan Tannehill long term term at all.
Speaker 1: So you're building the rest of your roster. Maybe they're
Speaker 1: one of the teams if everyone else gets the quarterback
Speaker 1: box check, you go get one in the draft next
Speaker 1: year and he comes to a playoff ready roster. I
Speaker 1: feel like their billboard is we still believe in you, Marcus.
Speaker 1: Now show it to us. We were giving you a team.
Speaker 1: We have a backup because we have to protect ourselves
Speaker 1: because you get hurt a lot, but you have a team.
Speaker 1: We've been patient with you. This is it. Go show
Speaker 1: us why you're the guy in the future for us.
Speaker 1: This is the alternate billboard. Take us seriously, period with
Speaker 1: an emoji. Just pray they I think they improve more
Speaker 1: than any team in the league over the last week
Speaker 1: us because they found three quality starters at positions they needed.
Speaker 1: They were all short Other than Humphries, they're really just
Speaker 1: short term kind of gamuts one or two years. And
Speaker 1: that's basically what how the NFL should be these days
Speaker 1: when you're filling in holes and freeze. See. I love
Speaker 1: what they did. Stay in the division with the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: I will tell you what their billboard is. It says, hey, everybody,
Speaker 1: two eight team never happened, jump back in our pool.
Speaker 1: I only wish that the billboard had audio qualities. Okay,
Speaker 1: it does. It's much better when you throw the lids
Speaker 1: Bluetooth accessible and when you sync up with the billboard,
Speaker 1: you get that guy. Uh we went. We got rid
Speaker 1: of the quarterback that we we whipped on. We replaced
Speaker 1: them with a better version, better version of a franchise quarterback,
Speaker 1: and uh, we keep most of the band we stuck
Speaker 1: together here. On defense, we're gonna run it back and
Speaker 1: they're gonna get their mojo back, and the offense is
Speaker 1: going to be better because we have a better signal
Speaker 1: caller and everything is gonna be Okay, jump back in
Speaker 1: the pool. I think that's well said. My only concern
Speaker 1: is that the billboard that tried to sell us all
Speaker 1: last offseason wound up being every single word was a lie,
Speaker 1: and so I don't know if I trust the message.
Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't lie to us, they were just wrong.
Speaker 1: Passers by. We're throwing eggs at that billboard because they
Speaker 1: knew it was wrong. It was a poorly thought out billboard. Ineen,
Speaker 1: But that's over Mark. What about the cults. The cults,
Speaker 1: to me, it would be a billboard with less words
Speaker 1: than my last one that just says, don't try to
Speaker 1: tell me how to live, all right, Because to me,
Speaker 1: it's Chris Ballard who all before before free agency, everyone's
Speaker 1: trying to say, we know what you're gonna do because
Speaker 1: you have all this money. We're gonna try to attach
Speaker 1: Levi on Bell. Do you We're gonna attach maybe you
Speaker 1: go after Antonio Brown, maybe you do X, Y and Z,
Speaker 1: and Ballard just said over and over, Actually, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to do anything that doesn't fit exactly the way
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Cults want to operate. I think the Cults
Speaker 1: are one team that thinks very much about the fact
Speaker 1: that where they are in the Midwest versus being in
Speaker 1: l A or New York, and they are committed. Ballard
Speaker 1: came up under Dorsey through the draft, so there's not
Speaker 1: a total DNA print there in terms of not being
Speaker 1: active in free agency. But he also spent time before
Speaker 1: that with the Bears that were not huge free agent
Speaker 1: type teams. They were draft and deliver. And I think
Speaker 1: that he is truly married and believes and was hired
Speaker 1: to rebuild the Cults this way. I think there was
Speaker 1: an agreement in place that this is how I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it. If it's not right, I'll do it. I'll
Speaker 1: do it my way somewhere else. He's frog and the
Speaker 1: frog thing too. He's he has stuck with this message
Speaker 1: and he has not pulled a hook line and sinker
Speaker 1: where he tells you one thing at the combine like
Speaker 1: Dave Gettleman and then goes does a bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 1: He's stuck to it. Don't tell him how to live.
Speaker 1: It's funny to me how much they've been criticized, especially
Speaker 1: from Colts fans who are like, do something Colts, when
Speaker 1: you just saw the fruits of what he did a
Speaker 1: year ago. It's very similar. And this drives me crazy
Speaker 1: every year that Patriots fans do the same thing. They
Speaker 1: get all worked up and pissy in March about during
Speaker 1: the years when the Patriots are inactive, because they tend
Speaker 1: to get active like every one or two, two or
Speaker 1: three years, and it's like, haven't you learned, Like, just
Speaker 1: just trust them. At this point, Ballard's earned some respect.
Speaker 1: And it's also mid March. I want to evaluate his
Speaker 1: off season in June because I think some of these
Speaker 1: guys that are out there that are gonna go for
Speaker 1: less money justin Houston, Dominican, Sue, whoever it may be.
Speaker 1: I think the Colts will be active picking up a
Speaker 1: couple of these guys in their off season and look alontle,
Speaker 1: I think it's fan fomo and and honestly, the media
Speaker 1: does nothing to help. Even some of the smartest fans
Speaker 1: in the middle of March feel like, when is my
Speaker 1: team need to go do something because everyone else is
Speaker 1: lauded forththrow tons of money or there's so many segments
Speaker 1: last Wednesday on the first day of free agency, including
Speaker 1: by is like how come this team isn't doing anything
Speaker 1: in freezezy? All right, let's move over to the NFC
Speaker 1: and starting the NFC East, the New York Giants, they
Speaker 1: seem to be a popular topic of conversation lately. Um.
Speaker 1: I think the Giants billboard is we are starting a
Speaker 1: new era, and I know that leads to the snickers, Well,
Speaker 1: oh what about Eli. He's still there. Eli is not
Speaker 1: part of their future. Eli is part of the past,
Speaker 1: almost as much as a part of the past as
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. Because they're gonna draft a quarterback next month
Speaker 1: and they've gotten rid of the face of the franchise. Well,
Speaker 1: if elis the face, Odell Beckham was the most popular player,
Speaker 1: uh and the franchise they are deciding to completely change
Speaker 1: what it is when you think about the Giants, and
Speaker 1: that is a hard thing to do, and it's a
Speaker 1: hard sell to the fan base, and you're you're seeing
Speaker 1: that and hearing that about how Giants fans are reacting
Speaker 1: because Giants fans weren't ready to turn the page on
Speaker 1: the Odell Beckhame era. But Dave Gentleman and the Mara's
Speaker 1: and apparently Pat Shermer, we're all on board with doing that.
Speaker 1: So we are. I think that one of the things
Speaker 1: they're trying to do is we want to get back
Speaker 1: to being the Giants and not being so flashy and
Speaker 1: not and this is an Odell's show where the Giants
Speaker 1: were a team that puts out a winner consistently, and
Speaker 1: we build a product that lasts. They didn't think Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham would be a part of that, so they made
Speaker 1: their move. I don't this, I don't agree with it,
Speaker 1: but I think that's what they're thinking is we didn't
Speaker 1: like the direction that this franchise was going in with
Speaker 1: Beckham as the face of it, and we made a
Speaker 1: move to start over. Their billboard is only half right
Speaker 1: because there are two There are two qualities that go
Speaker 1: into loud and clear. It must be loud and it
Speaker 1: must be clear. Their message is just loud. It's not
Speaker 1: clear at all. I don't I don't see. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's half complete, like their billboard should still be.
Speaker 1: Someone's still up there pasting the little pieces of poster
Speaker 1: onto it. Because to me, also, you cannot tell me
Speaker 1: that a new era, like when I think of Sean
Speaker 1: McVeigh attached to less sneed and then you watch what
Speaker 1: they do over a couple of months or a year. Yes,
Speaker 1: new era, other scenarios, new era, Pat Shermer, Dave Gentleman,
Speaker 1: do not scream new era to me and and the
Speaker 1: history unless you There are times when you trade your
Speaker 1: star player away herschel Walker, and you become part of
Speaker 1: history because what you get back in return creates a
Speaker 1: new era and creates that new roster and without all
Speaker 1: I will say is that the deal on its face value.
Speaker 1: Gettleman feels like someone that did not he can tell,
Speaker 1: he can say he was blown away. I have no
Speaker 1: problem with Giants fans saying, you're telling me Thata Briel
Speaker 1: Peppers and a mid round first round pick are blowing
Speaker 1: us away. No, he's one of those. I mean, it's Latin,
Speaker 1: would fit in the loud, but not clear. It's the
Speaker 1: billboard that's on fire in Missouri in that movie, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like Grantis. McDorman is trying to put it out
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. And Gettleman and Shermer
Speaker 1: think they're part of that new future. They are not. Well,
Speaker 1: then they're not. I don't know who's putting quarterback who's
Speaker 1: not on the team yet he's he's the new future.
Speaker 1: And whoever the young GM and young McVeigh like head
Speaker 1: coach they hire next year that is gonna the Giants
Speaker 1: are a work in progress, and the next year's loud
Speaker 1: and clear billboard. Now their billboard this year is is
Speaker 1: whatever I said, we're lying to you, and we hope
Speaker 1: we get this. Next year it's gonna be the same
Speaker 1: exact billboard, but with different people behind it. All Right,
Speaker 1: the NFC Northwest, the Detroit Lions, well, I think one billboard,
Speaker 1: if you are not willing to give them much at
Speaker 1: it would be can you smell the Desperation? A more
Speaker 1: politically correct one might be the bet on the media guys,
Speaker 1: make or Break here? Yeah, it doesn't feel like it
Speaker 1: would sell a lot of tickets. Make or Break here?
Speaker 1: For the Matt Patricia it's like the picture. It's like
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia like like sniffing his armpits or something staring
Speaker 1: like a chef's hat. That is fast. Sorry, I mean
Speaker 1: you got the picture. That's what's going on in Detroit. Well,
Speaker 1: with all the all the Patriots signing way too much
Speaker 1: for a bunch of guys who some of them don't
Speaker 1: even belong in the first wave of free agency, and
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just feels like, hey, first year
Speaker 1: of Matt Patricia did not go well at all. This
Speaker 1: team has no identity. Nobody outside of Detroit really cares
Speaker 1: about them one way or another. They're desperate to a stab,
Speaker 1: establish a culture, win some games, and save jobs. I
Speaker 1: like that about the Green Bay Packers. Greg Rosenhal. It's funny,
Speaker 1: by the way, this segments kind of turned from loud
Speaker 1: and clear to just the billboards. Now we're just billboards.
Speaker 1: But that's what a billboards. Okay, all right there, billboard
Speaker 1: would be. We heard you, We are your team. I
Speaker 1: really feel like the Packers listened to their fans. They've
Speaker 1: been honking about not spending in free agency for so long.
Speaker 1: I think the Natives were absolutely restless that they won
Speaker 1: six games with Aaron Rodgers in the middle of his prime,
Speaker 1: and no matter what was gonna happen, Goody was coming
Speaker 1: into this month just gonna usually gonna spend crazy money
Speaker 1: if he If he thought, hey, I gotta pay Preston
Speaker 1: Smith seventeen million dollars year, I'm gonna spend it. I mean,
Speaker 1: Zadarius Smith seventeen million dollars a year, I'm gonna spend
Speaker 1: it on Preston Smith. I'm gonna take Adrian Amos from
Speaker 1: from the Bears. I don't know if it's gonna work
Speaker 1: or not, but I just think it really is a
Speaker 1: case of there's no there's no owner there. But I
Speaker 1: think the ground swell, including from President Mark Murphy, who
Speaker 1: who kind of acts as the owner. This is like
Speaker 1: the people's team, and the people were so sick of
Speaker 1: the way that they were doing things under McCarthy and
Speaker 1: Thompson that they had to flip it totally around this office.
Speaker 1: I mean, it helps that if you're the new GM,
Speaker 1: you're being compared to someone that essentially like crawled into
Speaker 1: a sleeping bag head first when free agency started, slept
Speaker 1: for two weeks and then came out well arrested. That's
Speaker 1: what you're being compared against. If you're you're making any move,
Speaker 1: it's you never well arrested. But yeah, no, that's true.
Speaker 1: He never did. I mean, I just would say that
Speaker 1: listening to fans is never is not a good idea
Speaker 1: for it front. That's a little bit of my concern.
Speaker 1: It's just this, there's this excitement, Hey, we spent in
Speaker 1: free agency, now, okay that that that that to me
Speaker 1: doesn't say much good or bad. I want to see
Speaker 1: what Matt la Flora does. I want to see if
Speaker 1: Mike Petton can integrate all these guys. I I don't
Speaker 1: know if this team solved them. They did a better job.
Speaker 1: I think this year investing in younger players, guys that
Speaker 1: they could build a core around. Last year it was
Speaker 1: older players like Jimmy graham Um who they kind of
Speaker 1: kept try to catch lightning a bottle last year and
Speaker 1: it blew up in their face. Uh. The NFC South,
Speaker 1: all right, there we go, West, give us something for
Speaker 1: the Charlotte based franchise, Carolina Panthers. We grew two old,
Speaker 1: feeble and decrepit. That is what the billboard has said
Speaker 1: between the season ticket number underneath. Obama had hope, but
Speaker 1: this sounds like it's gonna generate more like and then
Speaker 1: it's just a bunch of pictures of some of the
Speaker 1: great Panthers that they let go, like Thomas Davis and
Speaker 1: since the end of the season, I mean that seems
Speaker 1: mean to those guys. They have cut ties with ten
Speaker 1: players over age thirty. Had to do it, yes, because
Speaker 1: as much as Cam Newton's shoulder injury undermine that season
Speaker 1: and sunk and I believe they were eight and three
Speaker 1: when he when he really started to show signs of
Speaker 1: wear and tear. You can't have an aging roster. It
Speaker 1: just doesn't work in this league. The defense in particular
Speaker 1: just fell apart. I know Cam Newton's arm got a
Speaker 1: lot of the attention, as it should have, but the
Speaker 1: defense did not play well. Wouldn't you want to message
Speaker 1: that like, we're getting younger, We're getting younger, and you
Speaker 1: get people all I'm son and over spin it back.
Speaker 1: Now that's what was that Raheem Morris. But it's to
Speaker 1: keep it in the NFC South and and hijack younger. No,
Speaker 1: it didn't work the first time. Okay, finally the NFC West,
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals West. What's on that billboard? Let me
Speaker 1: check what's on the board. We are tired of dealing
Speaker 1: with the tremendous talent deficit. They were left to love
Speaker 1: these billboards. I feel like that sometimes they were more
Speaker 1: like loud and clear messages. They're not as much of
Speaker 1: a billboard. This was the message saying, look, I was
Speaker 1: the GM last year. Kim Bomb is saying I'm the
Speaker 1: GM this year. I didn't. I didn't leave myself enough players.
Speaker 1: So they have signed twelve veterans, starting with their waiver
Speaker 1: claim of DJ Swear and Dury at the end of
Speaker 1: the year. Twelve veterans that are starters are borderline starters.
Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's a lot in one offseason, but
Speaker 1: I think that's what they have to do of all teams.
Speaker 1: Good stuff, loud and clear slash billboard. I liked it,
Speaker 1: good seg I think it's got legs West. I think
Speaker 1: we'll see it again. I have to touch a few
Speaker 1: things up. I did like that sometimes loud and clear,
Speaker 1: like Greg was saying, and the billboards sometimes they were
Speaker 1: at odds, but it made it funnier when a loud
Speaker 1: and clear messages on the billboard. No, yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: hear anything about a billboard until he started taping this
Speaker 1: podcasts loud and clear than a billboard, like writer like
Speaker 1: next time bid billboards? Billboard's clear to me? Um, all right,
Speaker 1: there you go. Before we go, Hey, Ricky, can you
Speaker 1: get Ken Brown on the phone? Are filling producer? Uh
Speaker 1: for our shows last week? Um? You know? And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna wait until he's on the phone to explain why
Speaker 1: it felt it was important to circle back with Kent,
Speaker 1: who did a nice shot for us last week, but
Speaker 1: something was brought to my attention that I feel like
Speaker 1: it would be wrong if we didn't address it on
Speaker 1: the show. Put it that way, Kent, what's up? Stand
Speaker 1: from the podcast studio? Hey, how are you? And well,
Speaker 1: just your tone of voice quickly changed from excitement. What
Speaker 1: is this? UM? I just wanted to touch base with you,
Speaker 1: Ken about um something you said on the Friday show.
Speaker 1: Remember when you you jumped in with that tidbit, the
Speaker 1: Toto tidbit, the factory, the nug that you jumped in with,
Speaker 1: and we kind of like, yeah, the total one. What
Speaker 1: was it that? For new listeners? Yeah, for for new listeners.
Speaker 1: You had said that Um William's son is the lead
Speaker 1: singer for Toto, right, which was fine and that's not
Speaker 1: necessarily um incorrect. But what you what you failed to
Speaker 1: tell the audience and us, was that you have to
Speaker 1: put some respect on Bobby Kimball's name, the founding member
Speaker 1: and lead singer of Toto four all the hits you know, Rosanna,
Speaker 1: um Africa, that is Bobby Kimball. Put some respect on
Speaker 1: that man's name and he rejoined the band in Night.
Speaker 1: He left the Band of Night in two thousand eight.
Speaker 1: Joseph Williams. This this guy that Fly by Night, Johnny
Speaker 1: come Lately fronted as the lead vocalist from six to
Speaker 1: eighty eight when they were done, and he is now
Speaker 1: he tours with them. And now that you know there
Speaker 1: are seventies something band, I mean seventies and that's how
Speaker 1: old they are. What Ken, what you did was you
Speaker 1: misled the audience. And I just want you to know
Speaker 1: that when you do come with the factoid, we need
Speaker 1: accurate figures, numbers, stats, information. I'm very true, but that's
Speaker 1: technically like thing like Derek Card the Pro Bowl quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's made a Pro Bowl, but he needed people to
Speaker 1: drop out in order to be a Pro Bowl. That's
Speaker 1: a good analogy. It's like it's like saying Adam Lambert
Speaker 1: is the lead singer of Queen because you can't just
Speaker 1: say that and just leave it at that. But he
Speaker 1: wasn't the lead singer for two years and is the
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton is a Pro Bowl or a fact to
Speaker 1: look his name up. The man had a name and
Speaker 1: it was Bobby Kimball. Okay, Dan, your issue is not
Speaker 1: forget He is not incorrect to say that this gen
Speaker 1: William's son did this for a certain period of time.
Speaker 1: But the main guy was left out of the factory. Yes,
Speaker 1: and this. Politicians do this all the time. They withhold information.
Speaker 1: It's a way of not lying, but it's not really
Speaker 1: telling that you. Thanks for explaining that to us. Joseph
Speaker 1: Williams is the current singer with the band, but I
Speaker 1: just wanted to be known that the man that sung
Speaker 1: their greatest hits, Bobby Kimball and Ken. You did a
Speaker 1: great job otherwise, but I couldn't let that go. I
Speaker 1: live in the current time, so I'm gonna roll with
Speaker 1: the current singer. He's done, Brown's done, He's not it.
Speaker 1: It's sad because you guys didn't. You guys are worried
Speaker 1: about why you know we're waiting to do this call.
Speaker 1: Is it gonna pay? Pleasn't ken't needed to know that
Speaker 1: It last few words were, It's kind of sad because
Speaker 1: I can just imagine Ken haven't gotten through four shows
Speaker 1: with creeps like us thinking, gosh, that actually went really well.
Speaker 1: I thought they would be joy. It's perfect. He's living
Speaker 1: high off the hog the last two days and then
Speaker 1: he gets this phone call out of nowhere. Life comes
Speaker 1: at your best man, all right, welcome back, Ricky, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you took a little pleasure in that as well. Uh.
Speaker 1: We will be back on Monday with our special show
Speaker 1: from the owners meetings and Phoenix. Uh so check that out.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have hopefully, I mean, we're getting a lot
Speaker 1: of notes right now. We'll just be totally honest, but
Speaker 1: I'm hoping we get you know, multiple, at least two
Speaker 1: coaches that will talk to us, even if it's like
Speaker 1: a strength coach. Ultimately, we'll take anybody we can get
Speaker 1: and we will interview those people and that content will
Speaker 1: be turned into fodder for Monday show and Wednesday show
Speaker 1: as well, maybe at work perhaps. And we got a
Speaker 1: hot guest on the broadcast tonight too. That's right, the
Speaker 1: old Zusa is dropping in. I'm going to m VP
Speaker 1: Manor in fact for the tapings. That will be fun,
Speaker 1: nice turnaround. Okay, good, So check that out. Uh, And
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