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Speaker 1: I have to think about that, but it's probably right

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Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansis and I am joined in a

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthalt.

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Speaker 1: What is up boys? Hey? Na, not related to this show,

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Speaker 1: but another go on. Mark, I'm just saying, very saucy

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Speaker 1: start to the Wednesday hump Day show and again no

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Speaker 1: show on Friday because we will be on airplanes, four

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Speaker 1: We will all be flying to Phoenix for the owners meetings,

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Speaker 1: where we will be UM interviewing coaches and GM's. Last year,

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Speaker 1: know yet we'll be speaking to. We We don't have

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Speaker 1: don't think Bill is familiar with the request ever came.

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Speaker 1: so whatever, congratulations under great success as a fan, but

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Speaker 1: we said, why not throw a Bill on there. He

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Speaker 1: big show coming up today. Uh, a new seg called

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Speaker 1: Loud and Clear, in which we will spin through the

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Ricky, Hello boys, how are we doing? You

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz being a perfect example a couple of months ago,

426
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: if a quarterback in the face of the franchise or

427
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: the biggest star or the longest lasting star of the

428
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: franchise catches fire. You'll have guys coming to his defense

429
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 1: and saying Ben's a hero, He's a legend on his team.

430
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: He's a leader that doesn't seem to happen uh in Pittsburgh.

431
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: His interactions with the media, Ben Roth is the way

432
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: he talks about his teammates sometimes the way just I

433
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 1: just think for whatever reason, he rubs people the wrong way.

434
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: I agree with that, and I'm not defending his character.

435
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: I think he does have character issues. I also think

436
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: every quarterback in the history of the NFL who's been

437
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 1: with the same franchise for fifteen years as the face

438
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 1: of the franchise gets preferential treatment. That's just the way

439
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: it's done. I don't have a huge way problem with that.

440
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: If you're if you if you're a fan of a

441
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: team and he's been there for fifteen years, one you

442
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: multiple super Bowls. He's my favorite. Whole idea of like

443
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: Bell and Brown and these guys, they're getting mad because

444
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 1: they think that he's, you know, preferring some teammates to others.

445
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: And there is that whole, you know, rumor, which is

446
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: kind of nonsense that he intentionally fumbled because he didn't

447
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: like a play call that Todd Haley made, which I

448
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: don't find credible at all, and there's proof that that's

449
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: not true. But it's just the fact that his teammates

450
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 1: were thinking it is just interesting and you know, unique

451
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 1: that they Antonio Brown, by the way, for all the

452
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 1: speculation and the whispers and insinuations that he was looking

453
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: to Juju, Yes, Juju lad the league in catches or whatever,

454
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: but Antonio Brown got his two. I think he was

455
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifteen last year. So he used

456
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: to like where it was, wanting to go around the right.

457
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Peyton Manning. How about that guy? He's uh,

458
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 1: he's you know, a little quiet. He's out of football

459
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: now and he has not gotten into broadcasting like many

460
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: people thought he would. Well check out those ESPN plus

461
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: things or whatever he's doing. I did not check those outs.

462
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: Is he trying to pump it up? But I haven't

463
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: really seen it. I'm only connected to n or something,

464
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: and I'm also connected to golden moments presented by McDonald's

465
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: introducing the new Big Mac with bacon, cheesy bacon fries

466
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: and quarter pounder with Bacon at participating McDonald's for a

467
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: limited time only? Is it the best thing to happen

468
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: to McDonald's classics or to Bacon? On that note, what

469
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: is the golden moment of the week? How about a

470
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: golden moment for Peyton Manning finally making the move nailed

471
00:24:55,240 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 1: it into broadcasting. ESPN is courting the great quarterback UH

472
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: to join its Monday Night Football team. This coming from

473
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: the Hollywood Reporter, so from a real source. ESPN President

474
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: Jimmy Pataro in content chief Connor Shell made a trip

475
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: to Denver on March eleven to meet with Manning, who

476
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: has been mentioned before, of course, for a broadcast role

477
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 1: UH Monday Night Football. Coming off a semi disastrous two

478
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen season, UH got bailed out by the Cowboys,

479
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: who hired Jason Witten out of the booth. The Burger

480
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: Burger mobile is dead, obviously, there are changes coming, and

481
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning sliding into the booth to me makes a

482
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: lot of sense. I know I'm probably a much bigger

483
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning fan as a personality than everyone else in

484
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: this room, but I think he could potentially be a

485
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: big hit UH in this role. I don't know if

486
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: he would do it, but that's my two cents. Now

487
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: I'm closer to you, I would like to see what

488
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: Peyton Meeting does. I don't know. I think it's too

489
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: hard to predict whether he'd be great or good. I

490
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 1: don't it's hard to imagine him being terrible. You never

491
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, just because he seems comfortable on a microphone.

492
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: But I think he's been great and support it. I mean,

493
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 1: he's smart, he's got a sense of humor, he has

494
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:13,959
Speaker 1: a intellectual viewpoint of the game that is almost unmatched. Uh,

495
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: he's comfortable in front of the camera. You add it

496
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: all up, and I think he has I don't want

497
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: to say Romo like potential, but he has potential to

498
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: be an instant star as well. And if I'm ESPN,

499
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: I would roll the dice and go after him hard. Now,

500
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning has more money than God with between Papa

501
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: John's and his playing days, he might not need this job.

502
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: This is not like a like a cupcake thing where

503
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: you just roll someone into It's a ton of work.

504
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: It's a ton of analysis. You're under a lot of

505
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: pressure coming off the Witten thing to come in and

506
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: shine and me, and I think Tony Romo has made

507
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: this a much tougher gig for anyone stepping in where

508
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: you've done no broadcasting and then suddenly you're supposed to

509
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 1: jump in. Is the color analysts on Monday Night football?

510
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 1: You know eight months from now? That is not an

511
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: easy job and it's funny at Joe Thomas was asked

512
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: a couple of times this past week because he's been

513
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: linked to it a few times, Hey, wouldn't you want

514
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: to do this? Wouldn't this be such a dream for you?

515
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: And he basically was like, I gotta be honest with you.

516
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: I watched Jason Witten do this and he didn't seem

517
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: like he was having any funds, so it gave him pause.

518
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: And it's like, I think, what happened to broadcasting where

519
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: you go find out if you're good at it number

520
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: one for a couple of years and if you enjoy

521
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: it before because what if? What if Peyton Manning isn't

522
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: is great, that's great, but he was an ultra dud

523
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: A we have to suffer for it. It totally flames

524
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: his entire The way we look at Peyton Manning the

525
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: same way we look entirely different at Jason Witten. Now

526
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: it's about, you know, the Pro Bowl trophy falling apart

527
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: and the four or five lines he had that no

528
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: one can forget. If that's Peyton Manning in a year,

529
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: if he if he flounders it because that happened, That's

530
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: happened to other big time quarterbacks. And I think Johnny

531
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: Unit has flamed out. Hardcore is a broadcast, that's part

532
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: of the game, that's part of the industry. It doesn't happen.

533
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: He has to, he has to really want it that

534
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: that particular station or channel or broadcast whatever. I know,

535
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm tilting night wind Mills here. I just wish they

536
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: cared a little bit more about the actual broadcast of

537
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: the game and a little bit less about names, bells

538
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: and whistles, graphics, storylines. But this is what they're doing.

539
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: They're taking a guy who's never broadcasted. Nobody has a right.

540
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: He's the exception, and now everybody wants the romo. Witten

541
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: was among the worst we've ever seen in any sport.

542
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: I mean, Peyton Manning is not a good speaker. I

543
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: think he's got a terrible sense of humor. He's not funny,

544
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: and he's probably not gonna be a good and Atlip

545
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: that for your social real and I want that set

546
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: down on NFL channel. I am definitely a bigger fan

547
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: of Peyton Manning than other people in this. Yeah, I

548
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: would like it. I think you'd be worth the shot.

549
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: Here's the bigger thing. I don't think he's worried about legacy,

550
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: all that stuff, or you know what, his reputation, because

551
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: I think when he if he was gonna do it,

552
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: he'd want to do a great job. The bigger thing

553
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: is he can do whatever he wants in his life.

554
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: And this takes up. Suddenly you're back in the NFL.

555
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: I know it's not like the player, but you're on

556
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: the road for twenty four weeks a year. You've got

557
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: some young kids, you've got a wife who you really

558
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, you haven't really been around at home that much.

559
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: And suddenly you're like, buy from Friday to Monday. He

560
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: can't go hang out in New Orleans and watch Eli

561
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: play the Saints. He can't do whatever he wants on

562
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: the golf course or whatever Peyton Manning's doing. They're recording

563
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: him and he is recording. Anyone's like, that's a lot

564
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: to give up all right. And finally in the news,

565
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon got another job. He is the new backup

566
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: quarterback of the New York Jets. With Josh McCown undecided

567
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: on his future, Simeon joins the room that includes Davis Webb.

568
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: Remember Davis's Webb so uh uh. And similarly, there are

569
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: people that are bigger Trevor Simeon fans in this room

570
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: than me. Um, I love this Jets team set up

571
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: bad getting all my favorite I love I love James

572
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: him all together. I love Jamison Crowder. You got Levy

573
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: and Bell love him? Uh Simeon, that's a nice solid

574
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: backup too. Else did they add one of those about it? Um?

575
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: All right, that's what's happening, Tom Compton And then Tom

576
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: Compton is a huge signing. We got Chandler Canna's arrow

577
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: back in the building. Henry Anderson, they resigned him. That

578
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: was kind of an under the radar one that was

579
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: like Daniel Brown tight end from the Bears. Who doesn't

580
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: like Tomorrow Adams right now? Great Twitter account. I'm getting

581
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: a little nervous by the way it's coming. Um. The

582
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: Jets new uniforms. It's a sneaky more stressful expan experience

583
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: than I expected. It's it's it's an important time and

584
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: if it goes wrong, I can tell you personally, all

585
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: you'll have is just a bunch of knuckleheads. To you.

586
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: It'll be your fault that the uniform doesn't work. I

587
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: assume I assume that's how it was. It could be

588
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: like you too, you make a disastrous uniform change and

589
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: then you win six Super Bowls over eighteen years, and

590
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, what are you calling that you're

591
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: not a fan of the Patriots current uniforms to bad

592
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: uniforms by the way, But but using the page as

593
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: an example, what didn't used to be such a big

594
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: deal when uniform new uniforms are rolled out. They would

595
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: just show up one year. Yeah that's fair. There wasn't

596
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: all the attention. But I do remember. And they switched

597
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: the uniforms because they also coincided with parcels that it

598
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, like everyone, at least in

599
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: the New England area. It was such a like meaningful

600
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 1: moment of like, okay, we're gonna change. Now we've got

601
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: the flying ELVI. Nashville got the draft because of their

602
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: uniform unveiling a year ago when they got like fifty

603
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: people in town square. But that's true story. They also

604
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: had a music act that was playing, but that was

605
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: seen as like a major um win for the entire

606
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: downtown sector, showing how alive the city was for this

607
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: unveiling of the Tytoons universe. I did not know that

608
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: a little fact to it. Look it up. That's how

609
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: they decide who goes to the draft. That's not exactly

610
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: what I said. So it helped them. It helped in

611
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: the the pitch of Nashville as the draft occasion. All Right,

612
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: I just told you it. Now, you know? Are you

613
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: annoyed that we're like stunned that you know something that

614
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: we did not that that happens all the time. A

615
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: little surprising. Um, that's what's happening in the news. Uh,

616
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 1: let's see what are we wanna do, Ricky? What's going

617
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: on with your d ms? We talked about it before

618
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: you went away. They're pretty good. You want to hear one, Yes,

619
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: let's here, let's hear one of your d m s.

620
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: Is that desert right? Um? That's my that's my intro.

621
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: It's going to be a sound like Joe Martin. Is

622
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: that your vocals. No, No, it's just in our library.

623
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: Can I hear that again? Yeah? Sure. Now it's time

624
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: for Ricky's d MS. Poor man kind of like that.

625
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: Yeah right, all right, what's in your d MS? Al Right,

626
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: today's from at sirious m h. You are slightly bent

627
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: over in every picture. It's very amusing. Okay, alright the

628
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: whole give us the closing music. What are you supposed

629
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: to do with that information? Stand up straight? I was

630
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: expecting something far more vile in the m Well, that's

631
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: that's you know, you're starting slow, not so subtly suggestive.

632
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: In my mind, it is body talk. I think it's

633
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: like a bent it's a weird. It's just a weird

634
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: route that you're going down to me. I mean, like

635
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: when you're with other people in photos or something. I'm

636
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Speaker 1: not sure what they mean. And this is a man

637
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Speaker 1: or a woman or what serious is also a radio networks?

638
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Speaker 1: Yeah it's not. No, it's like s E R I

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Speaker 1: O U S not. Maybe that code doesn't need to

640
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Speaker 1: be correct. Speaking of if you, if you do like

641
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Speaker 1: Ricky vocals, she broke out some rap songs that she

642
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: recorded as a teen on the jin Nick and Rosenthal

643
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: Van project and they are something else. Put a lot

644
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Speaker 1: of time into them, like chairs of my life. When

645
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Speaker 1: I was seen, it's like you had a wrap. It

646
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Speaker 1: was shocking, natural recovering um solid production. Though solid production.

647
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Speaker 1: I will say one of the songs was kind of

648
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: a bang her, but but the rapping was embarrassing. It

649
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't good. It would have been good to

650
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: share on our podcast. But it seems be happy to play.

651
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: That was the most predicted for that conversation. As I

652
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: was I was like, should I bring this up for No,

653
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: it's good withholding the content and pitching the other show.

654
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: Same time segment time loud and click. I have any

655
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: control loud and clear and this is a segment in

656
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: which West what do we do? What are we doing

657
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: on loud and Clear? It's about a billboard, isn't it.

658
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: Some organizations have sent very clear messages in the first

659
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: week of free agency as far as how they see

660
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: themselves and where they are going in two thousand nineteen.

661
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: They might as well put this message on a billboard

662
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: because it's that obvious. It's so easy to see the

663
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: clarity is there. It's like play like a jet that

664
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: was the jet that was their old one, right, that's

665
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: not really that which came from play like a raven

666
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: and warped in to play like a brown or like well,

667
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: that's unlike the mirage is usually trumped up by marketing campaigns.

668
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: These are actual things that are happening. All right, here

669
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: we go. We're gonna spend through the divisions and throw

670
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: out some different teams. Let's start in the A f

671
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: C East and West. The Buffalo bills. What are they

672
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: being loud and clear about. We are out of cap

673
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: jail and back among the living. That's what the billboard says,

674
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: and underneath it just says, really in small letters, were

675
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: determined to showcase Josh Allen as our electric talent. Everything

676
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: they're doing is determined to get Josh Allen a lot

677
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: more help than he had last year, because they have

678
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: the dollars to do it now. They also they end

679
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: up in cap jail. By the way, the Doug Whale

680
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: I believe was the previous GM left them in some

681
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: straits that the new GM didn't considered kind of dire,

682
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: so they were willing to sacrifice two thousand eight. Usually

683
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: there's you know a lot of star players or big

684
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: signings that go sideways. I assume that's how it happened.

685
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: From sentence No, I mean even now here are their

686
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: highest paid players. It's remarkable Star Low that's their number one.

687
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: Mitch Morris is number two. I mean, so they could

688
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: they have some more spending to go to your point,

689
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: I mean, col Beasley's gotta be up there. Yeah, he's

690
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: seventh behind Joe Brown, Trent Murphy law, John Brown. I

691
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: agree that they they believe Sean McDermott I think is

692
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: a quality head coach. I agree with him, and I

693
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: think they're giving him every chance possible. This is year

694
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: three for McDermott to to make a real push that

695
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: his coaching can coach up the defense, but that the

696
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: offense under Brian Dable needed way, way, way more talent,

697
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: and they were aggressive about I mean they also talk

698
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: about Doug Whaley. They allowed Doug Whalley the previous ownership

699
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: and this current ownership to hang around and in house

700
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: fight from what we know, with multiple head coaches who

701
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: are not long for the organization. So whatever he left

702
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: him in, they also had to make moves. That's an

703
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: offense that needed outside of quarterback, some help at every

704
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: single position, especially up front. You got, Yeah, you got

705
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: a center, you got you actually got a tackle Titan

706
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: and Shiky always thought is that I don't know how

707
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: to pronounce his name. Always pretty good. Uh in Washington,

708
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: couple receivers, pretty clear in the center, did a nice

709
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: job in free agency. And well, I mean, what are

710
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: you doing if you draft a quarterback in the top

711
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: ten and then you don't immediately set about trying to

712
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: put him in a position to improve and succeed your loss?

713
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: So Buffalo, good job. Let's move to a f C North.

714
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hit every team. We're just gonna jump

715
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: around a little bit. Uh West, Let's uh, let's go

716
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: with the Cleveland Browns, a team. Uh. I know that

717
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: you are falling in love with every day a little

718
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 1: bit more. Their message loud and clear. We have caught

719
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: lightning in a bottle. We are galvanizing our fan base

720
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: and it's high time we rere we re emerge as

721
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: a glamour franchise in NFL show piece. They're gonna be

722
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: one of the top eight or nine franchises in the

723
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: NFL again. This sign would go where the lebron On

724
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: image was. It's gonna go on, It's like a mural

725
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: on the side of a building works and it's I

726
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: mean again, is I guess you're referring to the eighties Browns.

727
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: I was referring. I don't want to see Lebron James

728
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: by the way of Brown's games. I don't want to

729
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: see because they're gonna be a prime time like what

730
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: six or seven times? I don't need the cutaways to

731
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: Lebron and the suite and I know it's coming. But

732
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: Lebron's Browns fan. Now, yes, now he's a brown San

733
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: because him and O'Dell or Buddies and all you already

734
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: made you're a Cowboys fan, yeah, you know, And we

735
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: talked about root for your friends. He left Cleveland literally

736
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: from there, he's literally from and why didn't exactly he's

737
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: been wearing a Cowboys he's been going to big Cowboys fan.

738
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: He was after them and the Yankees fan. He was

739
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: at the Rams Cowboys game. Are we talking about Lebron

740
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: a games? Why do I have the least amount of

741
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 1: problem with him rooting for the Browns on the side

742
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: half this room roots from all simple teams all the time.

743
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: So it's like it's that you can choose what you

744
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: want to do. It's just he he kind of played

745
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: up the Cowboys pretty hard over the past, and then

746
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: the same guy with the Yankees and the Lakers and

747
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Give me a break. We all have friends

748
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: like that front Runner Mark. The Cincinnati Bengals, what does

749
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: their billboards say, Well, it's sort of you know, you

750
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: drive from Cleveland down to Cincinnati, get a different message.

751
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: It basically says for me because when I think of

752
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: the Bengals, I think of Wes He he had enough

753
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: with the Bengals, but you still have a little bit

754
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: of Reds fandom, and you have a lot of Reds fandom,

755
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: all right, and the Reds are in baseball, and the

756
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 1: Bengals are saying unlike in baseball, the NFL allows thirty

757
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: two teams to compete equally from a financial standpoint, but

758
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: we cutting against the grain are going to operate like

759
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: a local, moneyless, family run MLB team that you can

760
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: count out before the season even starts. Wordy billboard, A

761
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: little wordy. I mean it's like you're driving along the

762
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: highway and you get part of the message. There's like

763
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: multiple billboards in a row. Well those are three three billboards,

764
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: and it's like the defensive coordinator hiring, which became a

765
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: bit of a social media joke how long it took

766
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: to to find their guy. It just seems like Cincinnati's

767
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: playing from behind in general right now. From what I

768
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: can gather, the Bengals believe that they started out last

769
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: year three in one, and every team can use injuries

770
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: in an excuse. I know that the Bengals believe if

771
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: not for injuries, specifically the Tyler Eiffort injury that really

772
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: hurt their offense, they would have been a playoff team.

773
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: Then does Zach Taylor have any power inside that building?

774
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: I mean, they did lose Andy Dalton and Green first.

775
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: I still don't think that my Tyler Eiffort. My problem

776
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: is the Bengals even before there was there was the

777
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen season where it looked like it

778
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: was all going to happen potentially, and they were talented.

779
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: But the Bengals in general going into last year, I

780
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: don't care about three in one. Don't try to pitch

781
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: me this idea that you're this playoff team that's going

782
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: to suddenly show up in the a f C title game.

783
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: Are mediocred? They stuck with the mediocre quarterback for ages,

784
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: and they were they they're the they're the ones who

785
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: don't seem to care. Might be the most balanced Division two.

786
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: So that's it's. Those are six tough games in the divisions.

787
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: It's and I think it's a moratorium now on but

788
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: remember two thousand fifteen and now too much time has passed.

789
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: It's it's just a different situation with a whole different vibe.

790
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: And since that it's not a good one, let's move

791
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: to a f C South. Another team that's on the

792
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: rise in West's heart rankings, the Tennessee Titoons. This is

793
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: the team that inspired this segment. I believe they have

794
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: sent the clearest and loudest message with their moves, starting

795
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: with Adam Humphries, which was the missing ingredient offense. Sides

796
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: quarterback Well Mariota is much better between the hashes. He's good,

797
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: he's a good passer in the middle of the field.

798
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 1: He's not good on the outside and down the field,

799
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: which is surprising that they've never had a really bona

800
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: fide slot receiver. This gives them that missing ingredient offense.

801
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: Then Roger Staffeld, the best run blocking offensive lineman in

802
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: free agency that was a priority Cameron Wake, which is

803
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: the quintessential win. When now pass Rusher and Ryan Tannehill,

804
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: they're saying this roster is good enough to do postseason

805
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: damage even if our quarterback goes down. I think they're

806
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: also And what I like about their front office has

807
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: been one of our favorites in the past, not so

808
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: too much last year, is you're almost building around the

809
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: quarterback right now because it's very possible that there is

810
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: no Marcus Mariotta or Ryan Tannehill long term term at all.

811
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: So you're building the rest of your roster. Maybe they're

812
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: one of the teams if everyone else gets the quarterback

813
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: box check, you go get one in the draft next

814
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: year and he comes to a playoff ready roster. I

815
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: feel like their billboard is we still believe in you, Marcus.

816
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: Now show it to us. We were giving you a team.

817
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: We have a backup because we have to protect ourselves

818
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: because you get hurt a lot, but you have a team.

819
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: We've been patient with you. This is it. Go show

820
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: us why you're the guy in the future for us.

821
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: This is the alternate billboard. Take us seriously, period with

822
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: an emoji. Just pray they I think they improve more

823
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: than any team in the league over the last week

824
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: us because they found three quality starters at positions they needed.

825
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: They were all short Other than Humphries, they're really just

826
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: short term kind of gamuts one or two years. And

827
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: that's basically what how the NFL should be these days

828
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: when you're filling in holes and freeze. See. I love

829
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: what they did. Stay in the division with the Jaguars.

830
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: I will tell you what their billboard is. It says, hey, everybody,

831
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: two eight team never happened, jump back in our pool.

832
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: I only wish that the billboard had audio qualities. Okay,

833
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: it does. It's much better when you throw the lids

834
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: Bluetooth accessible and when you sync up with the billboard,

835
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: you get that guy. Uh we went. We got rid

836
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: of the quarterback that we we whipped on. We replaced

837
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: them with a better version, better version of a franchise quarterback,

838
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: and uh, we keep most of the band we stuck

839
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: together here. On defense, we're gonna run it back and

840
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna get their mojo back, and the offense is

841
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: going to be better because we have a better signal

842
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: caller and everything is gonna be Okay, jump back in

843
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: the pool. I think that's well said. My only concern

844
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: is that the billboard that tried to sell us all

845
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: last offseason wound up being every single word was a lie,

846
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: and so I don't know if I trust the message.

847
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't lie to us, they were just wrong.

848
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: Passers by. We're throwing eggs at that billboard because they

849
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: knew it was wrong. It was a poorly thought out billboard. Ineen,

850
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: But that's over Mark. What about the cults. The cults,

851
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: to me, it would be a billboard with less words

852
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: than my last one that just says, don't try to

853
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: tell me how to live, all right, Because to me,

854
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: it's Chris Ballard who all before before free agency, everyone's

855
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: trying to say, we know what you're gonna do because

856
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: you have all this money. We're gonna try to attach

857
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: Levi on Bell. Do you We're gonna attach maybe you

858
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: go after Antonio Brown, maybe you do X, Y and Z,

859
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: and Ballard just said over and over, Actually, I'm not

860
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: going to do anything that doesn't fit exactly the way

861
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Cults want to operate. I think the Cults

862
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: are one team that thinks very much about the fact

863
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: that where they are in the Midwest versus being in

864
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: l A or New York, and they are committed. Ballard

865
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: came up under Dorsey through the draft, so there's not

866
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: a total DNA print there in terms of not being

867
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: active in free agency. But he also spent time before

868
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: that with the Bears that were not huge free agent

869
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: type teams. They were draft and deliver. And I think

870
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: that he is truly married and believes and was hired

871
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: to rebuild the Cults this way. I think there was

872
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: an agreement in place that this is how I'm gonna

873
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: do it. If it's not right, I'll do it. I'll

874
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: do it my way somewhere else. He's frog and the

875
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 1: frog thing too. He's he has stuck with this message

876
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: and he has not pulled a hook line and sinker

877
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: where he tells you one thing at the combine like

878
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: Dave Gettleman and then goes does a bunch of other stuff.

879
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: He's stuck to it. Don't tell him how to live.

880
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: It's funny to me how much they've been criticized, especially

881
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: from Colts fans who are like, do something Colts, when

882
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: you just saw the fruits of what he did a

883
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: year ago. It's very similar. And this drives me crazy

884
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: every year that Patriots fans do the same thing. They

885
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: get all worked up and pissy in March about during

886
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: the years when the Patriots are inactive, because they tend

887
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: to get active like every one or two, two or

888
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: three years, and it's like, haven't you learned, Like, just

889
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: just trust them. At this point, Ballard's earned some respect.

890
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: And it's also mid March. I want to evaluate his

891
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: off season in June because I think some of these

892
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: guys that are out there that are gonna go for

893
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: less money justin Houston, Dominican, Sue, whoever it may be.

894
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: I think the Colts will be active picking up a

895
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: couple of these guys in their off season and look alontle,

896
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: I think it's fan fomo and and honestly, the media

897
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: does nothing to help. Even some of the smartest fans

898
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: in the middle of March feel like, when is my

899
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: team need to go do something because everyone else is

900
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 1: lauded forththrow tons of money or there's so many segments

901
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: last Wednesday on the first day of free agency, including

902
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: by is like how come this team isn't doing anything

903
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: in freezezy? All right, let's move over to the NFC

904
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: and starting the NFC East, the New York Giants, they

905
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: seem to be a popular topic of conversation lately. Um.

906
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: I think the Giants billboard is we are starting a

907
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 1: new era, and I know that leads to the snickers, Well,

908
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: oh what about Eli. He's still there. Eli is not

909
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: part of their future. Eli is part of the past,

910
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: almost as much as a part of the past as

911
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. Because they're gonna draft a quarterback next month

912
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: and they've gotten rid of the face of the franchise. Well,

913
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: if elis the face, Odell Beckham was the most popular player,

914
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: uh and the franchise they are deciding to completely change

915
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: what it is when you think about the Giants, and

916
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: that is a hard thing to do, and it's a

917
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: hard sell to the fan base, and you're you're seeing

918
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: that and hearing that about how Giants fans are reacting

919
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: because Giants fans weren't ready to turn the page on

920
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: the Odell Beckhame era. But Dave Gentleman and the Mara's

921
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: and apparently Pat Shermer, we're all on board with doing that.

922
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: So we are. I think that one of the things

923
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: they're trying to do is we want to get back

924
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: to being the Giants and not being so flashy and

925
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: not and this is an Odell's show where the Giants

926
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: were a team that puts out a winner consistently, and

927
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: we build a product that lasts. They didn't think Odell

928
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: Beckham would be a part of that, so they made

929
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: their move. I don't this, I don't agree with it,

930
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,479
Speaker 1: but I think that's what they're thinking is we didn't

931
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: like the direction that this franchise was going in with

932
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: Beckham as the face of it, and we made a

933
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: move to start over. Their billboard is only half right

934
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: because there are two There are two qualities that go

935
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: into loud and clear. It must be loud and it

936
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: must be clear. Their message is just loud. It's not

937
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: clear at all. I don't I don't see. Yeah, it's

938
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: it's it's half complete, like their billboard should still be.

939
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: Someone's still up there pasting the little pieces of poster

940
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: onto it. Because to me, also, you cannot tell me

941
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: that a new era, like when I think of Sean

942
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: McVeigh attached to less sneed and then you watch what

943
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: they do over a couple of months or a year. Yes,

944
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: new era, other scenarios, new era, Pat Shermer, Dave Gentleman,

945
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: do not scream new era to me and and the

946
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: history unless you There are times when you trade your

947
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: star player away herschel Walker, and you become part of

948
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: history because what you get back in return creates a

949
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: new era and creates that new roster and without all

950
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: I will say is that the deal on its face value.

951
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: Gettleman feels like someone that did not he can tell,

952
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: he can say he was blown away. I have no

953
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: problem with Giants fans saying, you're telling me Thata Briel

954
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: Peppers and a mid round first round pick are blowing

955
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: us away. No, he's one of those. I mean, it's Latin,

956
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: would fit in the loud, but not clear. It's the

957
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: billboard that's on fire in Missouri in that movie, you know,

958
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: it's like Grantis. McDorman is trying to put it out

959
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. And Gettleman and Shermer

960
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: think they're part of that new future. They are not. Well,

961
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: then they're not. I don't know who's putting quarterback who's

962
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 1: not on the team yet he's he's the new future.

963
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: And whoever the young GM and young McVeigh like head

964
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 1: coach they hire next year that is gonna the Giants

965
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: are a work in progress, and the next year's loud

966
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: and clear billboard. Now their billboard this year is is

967
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: whatever I said, we're lying to you, and we hope

968
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: we get this. Next year it's gonna be the same

969
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: exact billboard, but with different people behind it. All Right,

970
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 1: the NFC Northwest, the Detroit Lions, well, I think one billboard,

971
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: if you are not willing to give them much at

972
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: it would be can you smell the Desperation? A more

973
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: politically correct one might be the bet on the media guys,

974
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: make or Break here? Yeah, it doesn't feel like it

975
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: would sell a lot of tickets. Make or Break here?

976
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: For the Matt Patricia it's like the picture. It's like

977
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia like like sniffing his armpits or something staring

978
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: like a chef's hat. That is fast. Sorry, I mean

979
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: you got the picture. That's what's going on in Detroit. Well,

980
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: with all the all the Patriots signing way too much

981
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: for a bunch of guys who some of them don't

982
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: even belong in the first wave of free agency, and

983
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just feels like, hey, first year

984
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: of Matt Patricia did not go well at all. This

985
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: team has no identity. Nobody outside of Detroit really cares

986
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 1: about them one way or another. They're desperate to a stab,

987
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: establish a culture, win some games, and save jobs. I

988
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 1: like that about the Green Bay Packers. Greg Rosenhal. It's funny,

989
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: by the way, this segments kind of turned from loud

990
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: and clear to just the billboards. Now we're just billboards.

991
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: But that's what a billboards. Okay, all right there, billboard

992
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: would be. We heard you, We are your team. I

993
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: really feel like the Packers listened to their fans. They've

994
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: been honking about not spending in free agency for so long.

995
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: I think the Natives were absolutely restless that they won

996
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: six games with Aaron Rodgers in the middle of his prime,

997
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: and no matter what was gonna happen, Goody was coming

998
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: into this month just gonna usually gonna spend crazy money

999
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 1: if he If he thought, hey, I gotta pay Preston

1000
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: Smith seventeen million dollars year, I'm gonna spend it. I mean,

1001
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: Zadarius Smith seventeen million dollars a year, I'm gonna spend

1002
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: it on Preston Smith. I'm gonna take Adrian Amos from

1003
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: from the Bears. I don't know if it's gonna work

1004
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: or not, but I just think it really is a

1005
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: case of there's no there's no owner there. But I

1006
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: think the ground swell, including from President Mark Murphy, who

1007
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: who kind of acts as the owner. This is like

1008
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: the people's team, and the people were so sick of

1009
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: the way that they were doing things under McCarthy and

1010
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: Thompson that they had to flip it totally around this office.

1011
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it helps that if you're the new GM,

1012
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: you're being compared to someone that essentially like crawled into

1013
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: a sleeping bag head first when free agency started, slept

1014
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: for two weeks and then came out well arrested. That's

1015
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: what you're being compared against. If you're you're making any move,

1016
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: it's you never well arrested. But yeah, no, that's true.

1017
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: He never did. I mean, I just would say that

1018
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: listening to fans is never is not a good idea

1019
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: for it front. That's a little bit of my concern.

1020
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: It's just this, there's this excitement, Hey, we spent in

1021
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: free agency, now, okay that that that that to me

1022
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: doesn't say much good or bad. I want to see

1023
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: what Matt la Flora does. I want to see if

1024
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: Mike Petton can integrate all these guys. I I don't

1025
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: know if this team solved them. They did a better job.

1026
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: I think this year investing in younger players, guys that

1027
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: they could build a core around. Last year it was

1028
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: older players like Jimmy graham Um who they kind of

1029
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: kept try to catch lightning a bottle last year and

1030
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: it blew up in their face. Uh. The NFC South,

1031
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: all right, there we go, West, give us something for

1032
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: the Charlotte based franchise, Carolina Panthers. We grew two old,

1033
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: feeble and decrepit. That is what the billboard has said

1034
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: between the season ticket number underneath. Obama had hope, but

1035
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: this sounds like it's gonna generate more like and then

1036
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: it's just a bunch of pictures of some of the

1037
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: great Panthers that they let go, like Thomas Davis and

1038
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: since the end of the season, I mean that seems

1039
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 1: mean to those guys. They have cut ties with ten

1040
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: players over age thirty. Had to do it, yes, because

1041
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: as much as Cam Newton's shoulder injury undermine that season

1042
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: and sunk and I believe they were eight and three

1043
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: when he when he really started to show signs of

1044
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: wear and tear. You can't have an aging roster. It

1045
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: just doesn't work in this league. The defense in particular

1046
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: just fell apart. I know Cam Newton's arm got a

1047
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: lot of the attention, as it should have, but the

1048
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 1: defense did not play well. Wouldn't you want to message

1049
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: that like, we're getting younger, We're getting younger, and you

1050
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: get people all I'm son and over spin it back.

1051
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: Now that's what was that Raheem Morris. But it's to

1052
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: keep it in the NFC South and and hijack younger. No,

1053
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: it didn't work the first time. Okay, finally the NFC West,

1054
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals West. What's on that billboard? Let me

1055
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,959
Speaker 1: check what's on the board. We are tired of dealing

1056
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: with the tremendous talent deficit. They were left to love

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00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: these billboards. I feel like that sometimes they were more

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00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: like loud and clear messages. They're not as much of

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00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: a billboard. This was the message saying, look, I was

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00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: the GM last year. Kim Bomb is saying I'm the

1061
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: GM this year. I didn't. I didn't leave myself enough players.

1062
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,479
Speaker 1: So they have signed twelve veterans, starting with their waiver

1063
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: claim of DJ Swear and Dury at the end of

1064
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 1: the year. Twelve veterans that are starters are borderline starters.

1065
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's a lot in one offseason, but

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00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: I think that's what they have to do of all teams.

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00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: Good stuff, loud and clear slash billboard. I liked it,

1068
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: good seg I think it's got legs West. I think

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00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: we'll see it again. I have to touch a few

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00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: things up. I did like that sometimes loud and clear,

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00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: like Greg was saying, and the billboards sometimes they were

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00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: at odds, but it made it funnier when a loud

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00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: and clear messages on the billboard. No, yeah, I didn't

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00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: hear anything about a billboard until he started taping this

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00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: podcasts loud and clear than a billboard, like writer like

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00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: next time bid billboards? Billboard's clear to me? Um, all right,

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Speaker 1: there you go. Before we go, Hey, Ricky, can you

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00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 1: get Ken Brown on the phone? Are filling producer? Uh

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00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: for our shows last week? Um? You know? And I'm

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00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: gonna wait until he's on the phone to explain why

1081
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: it felt it was important to circle back with Kent,

1082
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: who did a nice shot for us last week, but

1083
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: something was brought to my attention that I feel like

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00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: it would be wrong if we didn't address it on

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00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 1: the show. Put it that way, Kent, what's up? Stand

1086
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: from the podcast studio? Hey, how are you? And well,

1087
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: just your tone of voice quickly changed from excitement. What

1088
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: is this? UM? I just wanted to touch base with you,

1089
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:11,439
Speaker 1: Ken about um something you said on the Friday show.

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00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: Remember when you you jumped in with that tidbit, the

1091
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: Toto tidbit, the factory, the nug that you jumped in with,

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00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 1: and we kind of like, yeah, the total one. What

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00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: was it that? For new listeners? Yeah, for for new listeners.

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00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 1: You had said that Um William's son is the lead

1095
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: singer for Toto, right, which was fine and that's not

1096
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: necessarily um incorrect. But what you what you failed to

1097
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: tell the audience and us, was that you have to

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00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: put some respect on Bobby Kimball's name, the founding member

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00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: and lead singer of Toto four all the hits you know, Rosanna,

1100
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: um Africa, that is Bobby Kimball. Put some respect on

1101
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: that man's name and he rejoined the band in Night.

1102
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: He left the Band of Night in two thousand eight.

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00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: Joseph Williams. This this guy that Fly by Night, Johnny

1104
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: come Lately fronted as the lead vocalist from six to

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00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: eighty eight when they were done, and he is now

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00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: he tours with them. And now that you know there

1107
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: are seventies something band, I mean seventies and that's how

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00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: old they are. What Ken, what you did was you

1109
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: misled the audience. And I just want you to know

1110
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: that when you do come with the factoid, we need

1111
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: accurate figures, numbers, stats, information. I'm very true, but that's

1112
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: technically like thing like Derek Card the Pro Bowl quarterback.

1113
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: He's made a Pro Bowl, but he needed people to

1114
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: drop out in order to be a Pro Bowl. That's

1115
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: a good analogy. It's like it's like saying Adam Lambert

1116
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: is the lead singer of Queen because you can't just

1117
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: say that and just leave it at that. But he

1118
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: wasn't the lead singer for two years and is the

1119
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton is a Pro Bowl or a fact to

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Speaker 1: look his name up. The man had a name and

1121
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: it was Bobby Kimball. Okay, Dan, your issue is not

1122
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: forget He is not incorrect to say that this gen

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00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: William's son did this for a certain period of time.

1124
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: But the main guy was left out of the factory. Yes,

1125
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: and this. Politicians do this all the time. They withhold information.

1126
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: It's a way of not lying, but it's not really

1127
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: telling that you. Thanks for explaining that to us. Joseph

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Speaker 1: Williams is the current singer with the band, but I

1129
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: just wanted to be known that the man that sung

1130
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: their greatest hits, Bobby Kimball and Ken. You did a

1131
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: great job otherwise, but I couldn't let that go. I

1132
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: live in the current time, so I'm gonna roll with

1133
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: the current singer. He's done, Brown's done, He's not it.

1134
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: It's sad because you guys didn't. You guys are worried

1135
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: about why you know we're waiting to do this call.

1136
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: Is it gonna pay? Pleasn't ken't needed to know that

1137
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: It last few words were, It's kind of sad because

1138
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: I can just imagine Ken haven't gotten through four shows

1139
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: with creeps like us thinking, gosh, that actually went really well.

1140
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: I thought they would be joy. It's perfect. He's living

1141
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: high off the hog the last two days and then

1142
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: he gets this phone call out of nowhere. Life comes

1143
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: at your best man, all right, welcome back, Ricky, I'm

1144
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: sure you took a little pleasure in that as well. Uh.

1145
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: We will be back on Monday with our special show

1146
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: from the owners meetings and Phoenix. Uh so check that out.

1147
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna have hopefully, I mean, we're getting a lot

1148
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: of notes right now. We'll just be totally honest, but

1149
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm hoping we get you know, multiple, at least two

1150
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: coaches that will talk to us, even if it's like

1151
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: a strength coach. Ultimately, we'll take anybody we can get

1152
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: and we will interview those people and that content will

1153
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: be turned into fodder for Monday show and Wednesday show

1154
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: as well, maybe at work perhaps. And we got a

1155
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: hot guest on the broadcast tonight too. That's right, the

1156
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: old Zusa is dropping in. I'm going to m VP

1157
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: Manor in fact for the tapings. That will be fun,

1158
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: nice turnaround. Okay, good, So check that out. Uh, And

1159
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Speaker 1: that's it. That's today's show. If you have any other

1160
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: rap recordings, they have to come to our show. Of

1161
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: course I'll play him if you really unt that all right? Dan?

1162
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: He had to signing out four CLIs Star, The mail Man,

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01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: The Old Boss, and Ricky Hollywood Behind the Glass Stil Monday,

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Speaker 1: the tw