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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie podcast. I

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Speaker 1: am your host Movie Mike. Today, I'm sitting down with

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Speaker 1: director Carrie Belessa and his wife, slash producer Summer Blessa.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about.

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Speaker 1: Their brand new movie, Amber Alert, why this movie took

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Speaker 1: ten years for them to make, how they handle their

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Speaker 1: professional and personal life as husband and wife, and why

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Speaker 1: this movie changed my perspective on Amber Alerts. In the

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Speaker 1: movie review, I'm going to tell you about the Substance.

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Speaker 1: It stars Demi Moore and she gave a fantastic performance

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Speaker 1: in this movie. Can't wait to tell you about that one.

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Speaker 1: And in the trailer park, why I am underwhelmed after

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Speaker 1: watching the Thunderbolts trailer? What is Marvel doing right now?

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Speaker 1: So thank you for being here, thank you for being subscribed,

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Speaker 1: and now let's talk movies.

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Speaker 3: one man stands to infiltrate the ears of listeners like

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Speaker 1: To get into my conversation with Carrie and Summer Blessa

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Speaker 1: their new movie Amberlert, which is in select theaters and

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Speaker 1: on demand now. It stars Hayden pennety Yeer and Tyler

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Speaker 1: what this movie is about. Now. I've always wanted to

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Speaker 1: do a true crime podcast. My problem with true crime

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Speaker 1: feel bad even listening to them or watching specials on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: So a movie like Amber Alert is a little bit

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Speaker 1: more my speed because it kind of has that same

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Speaker 1: vibe even though it's not based on a true story.

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Speaker 1: So I've never done a true crime podcast. But this

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Speaker 1: is how I want to do this intro. Let's see

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Speaker 1: how as it goes. I sat down with director Carrie

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Speaker 1: They have three kids together, so this is a very

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Speaker 1: get made. Amberler is about an ordinary ride share that

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Speaker 1: Hayden Pittedtier's character and Tyler James Williams's character receive an

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Speaker 1: Quickly realizing that a car behind them matches the description

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Speaker 1: All right, So I just watched the movie last night,

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Speaker 1: And the thing about this movie is I loved how

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Speaker 1: Which I think what the movie shows from the very

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Speaker 5: that they're like, uh, it's okay, like it was like forgettable.

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00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 5: But yeah, we're we're excited to just get it out

440
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,119
Speaker 5: there and hear what people think and their response. And

441
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 5: we're very confident in the film too. We think it's

442
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,640
Speaker 5: a great film. The feedback's been really good, and I.

443
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 4: Think people are really gonna enjoy seeing Hayden and Tyler

444
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:38,680
Speaker 4: and the Yeah.

445
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah it's Tyler, like I've really never seen it, Like

446
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 1: I've been watching one have an elementary and it's like, oh,

447
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 1: this is a totally different side of it.

448
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, he's a killer, Like he is just so

449
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 5: locked in. It's so good, so insightful at Hayden too,

450
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,439
Speaker 5: like they were just like we're the perfect people at

451
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 5: the right time to have this, you know, Yeah.

452
00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 4: They both brought such humanity the roles and personality, and

453
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 4: it was really really fun to work with them and

454
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,199
Speaker 4: see what, you know, their perspectives on their characters, and

455
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 4: they s brought so much.

456
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,159
Speaker 1: And my final question is why Louisville, Kentucky. I'll give

457
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 1: you why I think you picked it. After watching the movie,

458
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 1: I feel like that city which I've been to, I

459
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: love Louisville. It makes it feel so much more real,

460
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 1: like you.

461
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Speaker 2: Could happen to anybody.

462
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 1: If you said this movie in La, it would feel like, oh,

463
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 1: it's just another movie in LA where crazy things happen

464
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 1: all the time, or in New York. But for me,

465
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: like just seeing them, like at the beginning, they just

466
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 1: had a random park and that's where it happens. Is

467
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Speaker 1: that the reason why it's in Louisville or is it

468
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Speaker 1: just I just want to say Louisville, Kentucky is awesome,

469
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Speaker 1: great people.

470
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Speaker 5: Our crew was like we missed those those people they

471
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 5: were so awesome and just like genuine down the earth

472
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 5: and they kind of knew our story like that we've

473
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 5: been hustling for ten years, that we were gonna make it,

474
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Speaker 5: that we were no one's gonna let us and they

475
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 5: just like got behind us like family and really helped

476
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 5: us make an amazing film.

477
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Speaker 4: As the producer, I will say was because of there

478
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 4: was a few different places that have great test incentives

479
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 4: that we were debating over. And I think exactly what

480
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 4: you said though, is you know, one of the strengths

481
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 4: of the film is that it could be anywhere except

482
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Speaker 4: maybe La but in general, like this happens all over

483
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Speaker 4: the country.

484
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Speaker 5: And it was originally written in Phoenix, Arizona, because the

485
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Speaker 5: Phoenix is the kidnapping capital of the country.

486
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we wanted to make sure it didn't feel like

487
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Speaker 4: it could be anybody.

488
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Speaker 5: Yes, so we just kind of tweaked it a little

489
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 5: and it was couldn't I couldn't imagine anywhere else now.

490
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 5: And I love the lushness, the beautiful degree, Like I mean,

491
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 5: I do want to fight a lot with the rain.

492
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 5: The weird day, we didn't shoot for a whole morning

493
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 5: because the rain that you know, it was. It were

494
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Speaker 5: some challenges, but it worked out worked out well.

495
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Speaker 1: I really appreciate the time. I hope everybody goes to

496
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Speaker 1: check out the movie. I feel like anxiety feel like

497
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: this is perfect for that. But you also I feel

498
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 1: you still learn from it. It's going to change your

499
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 1: perspective on live. It's gonna start a conversation. So I

500
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: really enjoyed it, really enjoyed talking to you guys.

501
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 2: Let's get into it now.

502
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: A spoiler free movie review of The Substance. I'm gonna

503
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: say at the beginning of this review already putting The

504
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: Substance in the running for horror movie of the Year.

505
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: It is a movie that completely blew me away. I

506
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: knew very little going into it. I'm actually recording this

507
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: review the night after opening night. I went to go

508
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 1: see it on September nineteenth, right when it came out,

509
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 1: and I wanted to capture this energy and this feeling

510
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 1: that I have right now because I am so enamored

511
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 1: with this movie. There are very few things I did

512
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: not like about it. And obviously you're watching this and

513
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: hearing this at a later date, maybe it has picked

514
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: up more steam on social media through word of mouth.

515
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: That is actually how I was reminded of this movie.

516
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: I was getting a haircut yesterday and the person who

517
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: cuts my hair we always talk horror movies, and she

518
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: told me about this movie, and I kind of forgot

519
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: about it. The only thing I'd really saw before was

520
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: like an article and maybe not even the full trailer,

521
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: and I thought I'll go check it out. I like

522
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: Margaret Quaeley. She's been in some good movies this year,

523
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 1: like Drive Away, Dolls, Kinds of Kindness. I can't remember

524
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: the last Demi Moore movie I saw. Dennis quay to me,

525
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 1: he kind of gives me the ick. I don't really

526
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: enjoy any particular movie that he's in except for The

527
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 1: Day After Tomorrow The Rookie, But outside of that, his

528
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: movies don't really speak to me. Don't get me wrong,

529
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: he's a great actor. I just think his movies aren't

530
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: really geared towards what I like. But he blew me

531
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: away in this movie, and all I really knew about

532
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: it it was Demi Moore taking some kind of drug

533
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: that made her younger.

534
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Speaker 2: So yeah, just a reminder. I know. I share it

535
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: with you guys all the time.

536
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: But there are original movies like this coming out every

537
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: single week, but they don't have the same marketing as

538
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: some of these other movies from the Big Studio, so

539
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: they don't get the Burger King meal tie in. You

540
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: don't see them at the grocery store on cereal boxes.

541
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: These are movies you do kind of have to seek

542
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: out a little bit. But if you are not going

543
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: to see and support movies like this, you are missing out.

544
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: And you also can't be in that conversation to saying

545
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: everything's a remake, everything's a reboot, everything's a sequel, because

546
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: this is proof that great original movies are being put

547
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: out every single week. And I will say at the

548
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: beginning of this review too, that don't think it's a

549
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: movie for everybody. It has a lot of nudity, has

550
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: some blood and guts, So if that's not your thing,

551
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: I get it. But man, if that is your thing,

552
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 1: you have to put this on your list immediately. So

553
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,719
Speaker 1: that's why I'm recording this review now to share with

554
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: you later, to capture this energy and hopefully by now

555
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: it has generated some more word of mouth, because I

556
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: think this is a movie that we do have some

557
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: more horror movies coming out later this month and in October,

558
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: but it's in the running for my favorite horror movie

559
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: of the year and possibly my top ten movies of

560
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: the year. So what is the substance about. Well, Demi

561
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: Moore plays a character who just turned fifty years old

562
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: and she is struggling with the process of aging. She

563
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: was a big star maybe a decade or two decades

564
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: ago at the start of the movie, and she is

565
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: looking back on all those times she is working in

566
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 1: this morning show, doing this aerobic style workout class that

567
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: is aired on TV, and she walks through the halls

568
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: of all the memories.

569
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Speaker 2: Of her when she is younger.

570
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: Dennis Quaid plays this big executive who is over the top,

571
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: very hokey, very campy, and on her fiftieth birthday, he

572
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: essentially wants to get rid of her because she's not

573
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: young and vibrant anymore, and that is something that greatly

574
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: affects Demi Moore's character. So what does she decide to do. Well,

575
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: she finds out about something called the substance, and the

576
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: substance allows herself to create a better version of herself.

577
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: So it's this black market drug that you take and

578
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: another version of yourself is spawned from you. But you

579
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: together are one the catches that every seven days you

580
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: have to switch back. So for a week you are

581
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: your old self and for another week you are the

582
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: better version of you. But you have to keep this

583
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: balance in order to keep everything right. So that's the

584
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: question that this movie asks you. Have you ever dreamt

585
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: of a better version of yourself? The movie is rooted

586
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: in feminism and the pressure that women have to look young,

587
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: which is unfair as guys we don't have the same pressure.

588
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: I don't know about me specifically, but guys are supposed

589
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: to get.

590
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 2: Better looking with age.

591
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: I've never been good looking whatsoever, so maybe I'll just

592
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: get less atrocious as time moves on. But I know

593
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: that there is this pressure on women, especially in Hollywood,

594
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: for women to look young, and women in Hollywood always

595
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: get compared to the younger version of themselves. Again, it's

596
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: unfair because it doesn't happen to men in Hollywood as much.

597
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: The roles that are pitched to women as they age

598
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: get smaller and smaller, a little bit more pigeonholed. And

599
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: again this is completely unfair, and that is what this

600
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: movie is focusing on, and it does it in a

601
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: very disturbing and unique way. And this movie felt so

602
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: original to me, even though it pulled a lot of

603
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: inspiration from old monster movies, and I wouldn't even consider

604
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: it a traditional horror movie.

605
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 2: It very much feels.

606
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: Like a scary fairy Tale kind of like an episode

607
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: of Black Mirror, but expanded on and add so much

608
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: more visual substance. And depending on who you are, you

609
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: could see this movie as corny or you could see

610
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: it as campy, and there is a very fine line

611
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: in between those, and I think it comes down to intent,

612
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: and I could see how some of these scenes could

613
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: be viewed as being a little cheesy, but I think

614
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: it's all intentional. It's from French director Cory Lee Farjas,

615
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: who did an amazing job with this movie, and for

616
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: me personally, I think it's the best movie I've seen.

617
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: Demi Moore in Above Ghosts, Above Gi Jane, because I

618
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: feel that she took this movie for a very specific reason,

619
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: because she digs really deep in this movie, gets very vulnerable,

620
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: and I think that's something you would only do if

621
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: you felt a very personal connection with wanting to bring

622
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: this character to life, and maybe a little bit the

623
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: character mirrors her career and her experiences in Hollywood. If

624
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: you see this movie and all the things that her

625
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: character goes through, it is pretty brutal to watch at times,

626
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: and to think of being an actor putting yourself in

627
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: those situations, putting it all out there and just giving

628
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: an amazing I would even dare to say Oscar worthy performance.

629
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: This isn't traditionally what I would think of an easy

630
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: Oscar contender. I think it would have a pretty uphill

631
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: battle to be in contention for an Oscar. Horror movies

632
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: are often unfairly left out of that conversation, even though

633
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: I think it's movies like this that spawn a conversation

634
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: that really have something to say and do it in

635
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: a very stylistic way.

636
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: They need to be considered more. Horror movies often get

637
00:29:59,640 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: the shaft.

638
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because they usually come out in September in

639
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: October that by the time Oscar season runs around, everybody

640
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: forgets about him. But I think if there was one

641
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: horror movie in the last five years that really needed

642
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: to be considered, it would definitely be the Substance. And

643
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: then you have Dennis Quaid, who plays this executive very.

644
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: Over the top.

645
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: He's like this little burst of energy, this kind of

646
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: gnat that's always in your face throughout the entire film,

647
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: saying these things that will make your blood boil. And

648
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: it's so over the top and so superficial that it

649
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: really works. And I didn't really know that he had

650
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: a performance like this in him or even want to

651
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: do a movie like this. And even though I don't

652
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: love a whole lot of his recent work, I think

653
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: The Long Game was the last movie I enjoyed him in,

654
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: even though his character was probably my least favorite in

655
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: that movie. I will go back to his OG movies

656
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: like The Rookie, The Day Actor Tomorrow. He's great in those,

657
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: but I know he's a great actor, and it really

658
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Speaker 1: shows in the Substance. And then you have Margaret Coiley,

659
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Speaker 1: who kind of won me over in her show made

660
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Speaker 1: on Netflix and since then it's at a pretty good

661
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: run just this year alone. I think as an actor

662
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Speaker 1: she is still on the search for her one signature film.

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Speaker 1: The Substance is definitely in contention, but I think Demi

664
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Speaker 1: Moore steals the show overall.

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Speaker 2: The only real.

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Speaker 1: Criticism I have with this movie is I do feel

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00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: it goes on a little bit too long at two

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Speaker 1: hours in almost twenty minutes. There are also a couple

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Speaker 1: of moments that I feel in the movie goes a

670
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Speaker 1: little bit off the rails and confuses you just a

671
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: little bit as the viewer and kind of loses its

672
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Speaker 1: identity and at times it kind of does feel like

673
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: this free fall that it goes on, But I think

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Speaker 1: director Corley was trying to capture that chaos, and it

675
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: is a risk to do that to say, I don't

676
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: care how absurd this is going to be, how some

677
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 1: people might feel disturbed. I might even lose some people,

678
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: maybe even run the risk of have people leave the

679
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: theater a little bit early. But she committed to it,

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Speaker 1: and I can respect that. For the substance. I give

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Speaker 1: it a strong four point five out of five syringes.

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Speaker 2: It's time to head down to movie. Mike Traylor Paul

683
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Speaker 2: My three.

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Speaker 1: Word reaction after I saw the trailer and the poster

685
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Speaker 1: to Thunderbolts. This looks terrible, so uninspired, so flat. It's

686
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: like taking all the worst parts, and maybe all the

687
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: worst parts a lot of the BC level characters.

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00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: And putting them into a movie.

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Speaker 1: And I think at this point in superhero movies, I

690
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: am so tired of the formula of it's just a

691
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: bunch of rag tag group of individuals, all these outcasts

692
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Speaker 1: who don't get along with each other.

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Speaker 6: You got an evil boss pitting them against each other,

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Speaker 6: using them for their personal gain, and it's gonna be

695
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Speaker 6: real messy in the beginning, and then eventually they're gonna

696
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 6: bond and become real strong. And this movie is going

697
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 6: to leave you with cinematic blue balls because it's gonna

698
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 6: be all of the building really just trying to gear

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Speaker 6: up to the next movie. That is exactly how I

700
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Speaker 6: feel and what I know. The Thunderbolt is going to

701
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Speaker 6: do nothing about. This trailer feels exciting to me, which

702
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 6: is a bummer. And I am a long time Marvel

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Speaker 6: stand The only reason I.

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Speaker 1: Do this podcast is because of the MCU, and I'm

705
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Speaker 1: just growing to accept that there are going to be

706
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Speaker 1: a level Marvel movies, the ones I would consider top tier,

707
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: the gold standard, and then they are going to be silver.

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Speaker 1: I would almost contribute those to the Marvel shows on

709
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: Disney Plus, which are really great, they just don't quite

710
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Speaker 1: have the budget. They kind of reach their capacity there.

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Speaker 1: They're good and forty two to forty four minute increments

712
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: and they don't necessarily move the entire MCU along, but

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Speaker 1: they are enjoyable and they're more bite sized. That's like

714
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Speaker 1: my silver level, and then the bronze level is going

715
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Speaker 1: to be this level of movie where I would also

716
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: put movies like the Marvels and the Thunderbolts is supposed

717
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: to close out Phase five, which is in most people's eyes,

718
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: been not great. I feel that it's been pretty weak

719
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,479
Speaker 1: overall if you look at what's in Phase five. Kicked

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Speaker 1: it off in twenty twenty three in February with ant

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Speaker 1: Man and the Wasp Quantum Mania. I thought that was

722
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: a pretty decent theater experience. Haven't really thought about that

723
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Speaker 1: movie much since. But then we got Guardians of the

724
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Speaker 1: Galaxy Volume three in May twenty twenty three, one of

725
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: the best conclusions to a trilogy of all time, not

726
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: even just in the MCU then took a down turn

727
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Speaker 1: with the Marvels.

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Speaker 2: So if you look in my theory here, it kind

729
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: of goes back and forth between those levels.

730
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Speaker 1: And I know there's that meme that always goes around

731
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: like MCU is dead, MCU is back. I don't think

732
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: it is dying and coming back to life. I just

733
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Speaker 1: think they have to kind of space out their movies

734
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: and in effort to have everything still have this cohesion,

735
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: have this synergy, you're gonna have have to go back

736
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Speaker 1: and forth.

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Speaker 2: It's the same.

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Speaker 1: Way that a Sony, a Warner Brothers Universal aren't going

739
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: to continuously put out good movie after good movie. Marvel

740
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: is just its own giant entity now, so I think

741
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: what they are trying to do is just introduce so

742
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: many new characters and build back this level of Avengers

743
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: that we had in that first phase, and I don't

744
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Speaker 1: think we're gonna quite get there yet.

745
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: But then this year we only had Dead Poole and Wolverine.

746
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Speaker 2: That was it.

747
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Speaker 1: That was fun and I think a big win that

748
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: Marvel needed. And I enjoyed that movie at that time,

749
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: but it didn't really stick with me, and it was,

750
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say forgettable. It just didn't really

751
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: have a lasting effect on me like Guardians of the

752
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: Galaxy Volume three did. Then after this next year, in February,

753
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get Captain America Brave New World. That looks

754
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: top level. That trailer looks fantastic. I am excited for

755
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: that one. And Thunderbolts is coming out after that on

756
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: May second, twenty twenty five, and that will mark the

757
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: end of phase five. We'll get into more about what's

758
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 1: going on with Marble after that, but we're gonna break

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00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: down this trailer first, and before I do that, here's

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Speaker 1: just a little bit of the Marble's trailer for Thunderbolts,

761
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: and it does have an asterisk which I think is

762
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: gonna lead to something.

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00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: But here's just a little bit of that. Now, who

764
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: are you? I'm Bob.

765
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Speaker 1: Who sent you? Bob?

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Speaker 2: Nobody were you all? You were all sent?

767
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 4: Everyone here has done bad things, shadow ops, robbing, government labs.

768
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: Contract kills. Yeah, so someone once has gone.

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Speaker 1: So this movie is going to center around Yolena, who

770
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: is played by Florence Pugh. And in order to understand

771
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: this movie, you have to watch a few projects. To

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00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: fully get it. You of course had to have seen

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Speaker 1: Black Widow. It would also help if you watch Hawkeye

774
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: and then the Disney Plus series Falcon in the Winter Soldier.

775
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: Also would help if you saw at Man in the

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Speaker 1: Wasp because some of the side characters came from that,

777
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: And then you kind of have to see all the

778
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: Captain America movies because Bucky Barnes is back with Sebastian

779
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: stand back in that role. And then really it just

780
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: kind of helps at this point to watch all the

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00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: Avengers movies. So does feel like a little bit of homework,

782
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: which I think is going to hurt this movie in

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00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: the long run. And it's also just focusing on a

784
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: lot of characters that aren't that familiar. And my theory

785
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: right now as to why some of these Marvel movies

786
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: aren't doing as well for me, it honestly comes down

787
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: to the design of these characters. And I looked really

788
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: closely at the poster for The Thunderbolts. It's all the

789
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: characters on top of each other, very photo shopped. And

790
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: what stick out to me about that poster is the

791
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Speaker 1: fact that nothing stuck out to me. It is so

792
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: flat and monochromatic, and none of these heroes and I

793
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: know that this is a movie where it's supposed to

794
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: be a bunch of anti heroes. Even in the trailer

795
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: here they talk about they are all sent there because

796
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: they've all done bad things, stealing from government agencies, killing people,

797
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: doing secret black ops. They're all not technically superheroes. But

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00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: looking at that poster, looking at this trailer, none of

799
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: the designs of these characters really pop out to you,

800
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Speaker 1: and that makes it a little less exciting.

801
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 2: And in order to create.

802
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: A spectacle again at the theater, Marvel can't rely on

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00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: all of the things that made their movies spectacles in

804
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Speaker 1: the twenty tens, and I think they're trying to resort

805
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: to having a little bit more of a gritty style,

806
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 1: which is some of the glimpses that we have here

807
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: with the action.

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Speaker 2: That's probably the one redeeming.

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00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: Factor that this trailer has, but it doesn't feel like

810
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 1: anything new. Just to see a bunch of people fighting

811
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: against each other using B level special ability is task Master.

812
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: You have ghosts in this trailer who is back from

813
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: ant Man in the Wasp, who has the ability to

814
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: face through objects. It looks fine, but you don't really

815
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: have that big star power from a superhero. You don't

816
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: have the cool superhero abilities, and you also don't have

817
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: a signature look here, which is why all of those

818
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: movies in the early phases of the MCU.

819
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: Stuck out so much.

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Speaker 1: Becaustor has a very distinct look, Captain America has a

821
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: very distinct look.

822
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Speaker 2: Iron Man.

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Speaker 1: Obviously that all of those characters pop out of the screen,

824
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: they pop out on the promotional materials, and they have

825
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: people identify those characters with those movies combined with the

826
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Speaker 1: actor who is portraying them, and that is so important

827
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Speaker 1: that draws your eye into wanting to see more things

828
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Speaker 1: about it.

829
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Speaker 2: Online.

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00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: It draws kids to want to see and want to

831
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: go watch it in a theater, which is super important. Otherwise,

832
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: to me, this feels like something that should just be

833
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: dropped on Disney plus spend less money on it and

834
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: instead focus more on the bigger projects. And I think

835
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: in a genre where we're already having a bit of fatigue,

836
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: we're over the superhero formula, and obviously they're trying to

837
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: do something different from that, but it feels like trying

838
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: to do their own suicide squad when that has been

839
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 1: done twice already in DC. We also have the Peacemakers

840
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: show in its second season, which also kind of feels

841
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: in that Sam Vein. You also have TV shows now

842
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: like The Boys that does it the best when it

843
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: comes to R rated gritty nature in a superhero show

844
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Speaker 1: or movie. So this, no matter how gritty it is,

845
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: is going to feel like even a watered down version

846
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Speaker 1: of that.

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Speaker 2: So I know they are working within their.

848
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: Own world, but they also need to look at and

849
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: focus on what's going on around them and all these

850
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: other universes, because you are essentially battling for attention, and

851
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: why is somebody gonna focus on a movie like this?

852
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: With even though you have an A.

853
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: List actor with Florence Pugh, maybe in the general public

854
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: she's a minus, but she gets fantastic and doesn't have

855
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: to do a movie like this.

856
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 2: Even with her star power.

857
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that is enough to get people to

858
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: want to go watch this movie, and she is by

859
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: far the most famous person in the cast. Even with

860
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: Sebastian stand returning as Bucky Barnes, I kind of just

861
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: view him as Captain America's sidekick. I honestly think that

862
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: character has kind of run his course, and supposedly he

863
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: is going to be the one in charge of the Thunderbolts,

864
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: but I feel like all his best movies have already

865
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: happened before him, and unless it's him and Chris Evans,

866
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Speaker 1: I don't really think it works the same way that

867
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: it did back with those Captain America movies. The one

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Speaker 1: character that has my curiosity is Century, who is finally

869
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: shown in this trailer. He is played by Louis Pullman,

870
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: who is the son of Bill Pullman, and he is

871
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: said to be Marvel's superman of sorts. He has the

872
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: power of a million exploding suns and the serum that

873
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: gave him his power actually came from the same super

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Speaker 1: soldier serum that was given to Captain America back in

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Speaker 1: that first movie, but it's said to be one hundred

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Speaker 1: times stronger. You see him in this trailer whenever they're

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Speaker 1: all gathered into this one location and start fighting against

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Speaker 1: each other, he kind of falls out of a crate.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like he's this experiment maybe made by Julia

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Speaker 1: Louis Drevis's character who was placed in this box not

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Speaker 1: supposed to get out because he has this crazy super

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Speaker 1: powerful ability, said to be at least in theory, quite

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Speaker 1: possibly the strongest character now in the MCU. I really

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Speaker 1: take that with a grain of salt, because in the MCU,

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Speaker 1: it really doesn't matter how powerful you are, it matters

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Speaker 1: how good of a story that they can write for you.

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Speaker 2: Because by no.

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Speaker 1: Means was Iron Man the most powerful Avenger, but he

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Speaker 1: is the one that is the most memorable. So I'm

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Speaker 1: not really going to get super hype on the fact

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Speaker 1: that he has this crazy superhuman ability. There's this point

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Speaker 1: in the trailer where all these guns are pointed towards him,

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Speaker 1: they all fire and all the bullets fall and he

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Speaker 1: doesn't even have a scratch on him. So it's kind

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Speaker 1: of cool and probably the most unique part of this trailer,

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Speaker 1: but that for me is really nothing to write home

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Speaker 1: about at this point. So the way I see this

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Speaker 1: to be great. It's gonna be that real high point

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Speaker 1: that we need going into phase six. This is kind

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Speaker 1: of going to be the closing action and really set

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Speaker 1: up what is coming. Because the title Thunderbolts even has

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Speaker 1: that asterisk, which leads me to believe that they're either

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Speaker 1: going to change the title by the time this movie

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Speaker 1: comes out, or at the end of the movie they're

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Speaker 1: gonna go by a different name, because really, Thunderbolts is

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Speaker 1: a terrible name, and if you look at all that

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Speaker 1: Marvel has built and putting so much into this movie,

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Speaker 1: and having a name that not a lot of people

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Speaker 1: are going to recognize, that really tells you nothing about

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Speaker 1: the movie whatsoever. And it would probably be more beneficial

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Speaker 1: to them to put the word Avenger in there in

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Speaker 1: some capacity. The New Avengers, the Young Avengers, they have

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Speaker 1: to be building towards something else, especially if they have

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Speaker 1: that asterisk on the title, which is intentional. So that's

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Speaker 1: how I envision Phase five closing out Phase six. We'll

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Speaker 1: start with a Fantastic four on July twenty fifth, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five. After that we're supposed to get a Blade movie.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen a whole lot of details about that,

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Speaker 1: but nothing else is announced until May twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: with Avengers Doomsday that is bringing back Robert Downey Junior,

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Speaker 1: and then Secret Wars in twenty twenty seven. After that, Man,

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Speaker 1: I gotta stay alive until twenty twenty seven because I

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Speaker 1: have to see that movie. But again, this movie is

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Speaker 1: coming out on May second, twenty twenty five, so I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna have the best time at the

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Speaker 1: box office next summer. And hopefully we get at least

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Speaker 1: a B level story and a B level amount of action,

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Speaker 1: and then let's close it out and move on to

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Speaker 1: Phase six.

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Speaker 3: And that was this week's edition of Movie Line Tramer

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Speaker 3: par and.

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Speaker 1: Is that is gonna do it for another episode here

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Speaker 1: of the podcast. But before I go, I got to

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Speaker 1: give my listeners shout out of the week this week.

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Speaker 1: I'm going over to my Instagram dms and Vicky six

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Speaker 1: two nine, you are this week's listener shout Out of

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Speaker 1: the week, Vicky, you sent me a DM replying to

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Speaker 1: the story I posted about last week's episode where I

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Speaker 1: did a Hispanic Heritage Month episode and shared all of

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Speaker 1: my favorite Mexican American movies that I identified with growing up,

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Speaker 1: shared a lot of stories about my family. So if

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Speaker 1: you missed that episode, just go back one in the

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Speaker 1: feed and VICKI wrote, I love it when you talk

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Speaker 1: about you and your parents' story. Now you have movie

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Speaker 1: crew listeners that get to see themselves in you. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that, Vicky, and when and I do those episodes,

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Speaker 1: sometimes I wonder is anybody else goingna care about this?

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Speaker 1: And actually had a lot of nice messages saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you talk about these movies and share your

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Speaker 1: story because this was also the way that I grew up.

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Speaker 1: And those messages means so much to me hearing other

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Speaker 1: people who not even just their parents are from Mexico,

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Speaker 1: but then themselves immigrated here from a very young age,

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Speaker 1: which is also a whole other crazy level that I

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Speaker 1: love hearing those stories as well. So thank you Vicky

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Speaker 1: for that DM. Thank you right now for listening. Shout

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Speaker 1: out to the entire movie crew. Next week is a

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Speaker 1: really great episode I'm having on Robert England, the one

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Speaker 1: and only Freddy Krueger.

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Speaker 2: Here's a little tease of how that interview went. Thank

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Speaker 2: you lot a math in that interview. There you go,

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Speaker 2: So be sure you subscribe.

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Speaker 1: celebrating its fortieth anniversary. So thank you for listening, thank

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