1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Where is Heather? 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: An unwitting sex affair with a married man unbeknownst to her. 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: Now the restaurant hostess's phone has been turned off. Last 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: active three a m. I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us. 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: Heather Elvis is a young, hardworking twenty year old girl 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. She has moved out of 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 3: her parents' home and into her own apartment with her 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 3: best friend and roommate, Brianna. The two girls work as 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: waitresses at a local restaurant, and while there, Heather meets 11 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: Sidney Moore, an older welder by trade, and the two 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 3: soon grow feelings for each other. Kicks starting in a 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: troubled affair. 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: Troubled is certainly one way of putting it tonight. Where 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: is Heather? Why is her phone cut off? And then 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: last active at. 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: Three a m. In the morning. 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 4: Listen now a personal cell phone are missing along with 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 4: her everything else looks to be where it's supposed to be. 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 5: On December nineteenth, a green Dodge Intreppet is found parked 21 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 5: the wrong way at the Peachtree Landing Boat Launch and 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 5: so Cassidy. The vehicle is locked and running the license 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 5: plate of the car. The registration comes back to Terry Elvis, 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 5: Heather's father. Police contact Elvis and he comes to the 25 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 5: boat landing with spare keys to unlock the car with 26 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 5: the cars eight miles from Heather Elvis's apartment, and once 27 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 5: her father unlocks the car, police find Heather's keys, phone, 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 5: and purse, all missing. Calls to her phone go unanswered. 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 5: Heather is not at her apartment and doesn't show up 30 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 5: at her job. 31 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: In that sound from our friends at HLN, you here 32 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: Heather's dad, Terry Elvis, stating that her purse, her cell 33 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: phone missing with her everything else appears to be in order. 34 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: Joining me an all star pan ultimate sense of what 35 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: we're learning tonight. First, I want to go out to 36 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: some very very special guests. This is Heather's mother and sister, 37 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: Debbie and Morgan Elvis. Thank you for being with us. 38 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: Straight out to Debbie Elvis, this is Heather's mom. I 39 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: cannot imagine what you're going through. You put all your time, 40 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: your energy, your love, your money, two hundred percent blood, 41 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: sweat and tears. 42 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: You pour it into your children and then to have 43 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: your beautiful daughter just disappear like that. 44 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: Never a hint of trouble ever from Heather Elvis. She 45 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: wasn't some juvenile delinquent that made all fs and would 46 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,279 Speaker 2: stand out on the corner. 47 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: Smoking and vaping. 48 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: That wasn't Heather, not at all, beautiful, bright, hard. 49 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: Working, industrious. 50 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: When did you learn that she was seemingly missing with 51 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: her cell phone and purse gone? 52 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: When did you learn that? 53 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 6: We didn't really learn she was missing until we found 54 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 6: out about her car. An officer stopped by the house 55 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 6: and said that there was a car part to Peachtree 56 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 6: Boat Landing that was ours, and I realized it was 57 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 6: Heather's car he was talking about, and my husband rode 58 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 6: with him down to the landing to see why it 59 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 6: was left there. We thought maybe she was on the 60 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 6: boat with somebody. But the fact that she wouldn't answer 61 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 6: her phone, which never happens. She always has her phone 62 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 6: on in handy she always answered that was a worrisome issue. 63 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 6: But it took us calling everybody to realize there was 64 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 6: something very wrong. 65 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 7: But her not answering her phone. 66 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 6: Was a big clue that something was very wrong. 67 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: We are showing you shots not only of Heather but 68 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: of her green dodge and trap and found parked abandoned, 69 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: interesting perpend to the parking spaces at Peachtree Landing Boat Launch, 70 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: completely unlike her. Look at the way she kept her 71 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: vehicle in perfect pristine condition. 72 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: You know, car nuts. 73 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 2: My daughter is the same way, missus Elvis. Her car 74 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: is spotless, unlike everybody else in our family. She won't 75 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: let the dog get in it, she won't let the 76 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: cat get in it. She won't let me in it 77 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: with my hot tea. 78 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: No way. 79 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: And I find it very curious, very curious. Let me 80 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: go out to Nancy Livesay, Hoary County prosecutor, intimately familiar 81 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 2: with the investigation. 82 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: In this case. Nancy, I know that may not mean. 83 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 2: A lot to other people, but to me, that's very, 84 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: very probative. And it reminds me of a case you 85 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 2: and I are familiar with of Tara Grinstead, a gorgeous 86 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 2: young a teacher, high school teacher. She's a beauty queen 87 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: that goes missing suddenly out of South Georgia. 88 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: And the search went on and on and on. 89 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: And when I met with her mother, we walked through 90 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: her home and Nancy, her home was in perfect condition 91 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: like it had just been professionally. 92 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: Clean, and I found out she was a neat nick. 93 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: Like Heather and her car right and I noticed that 94 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: the lamp was askew in her bedroom, like the shade 95 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: was messed up, and I thought she would not have 96 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 2: walked out with that, because it's. 97 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: Even bothering me. 98 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: Then I looked at her car, Nancy, the car, which 99 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: she kept like Heather did, perfectly pristine, was covered in 100 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: mud on the outside and the front seat. She was 101 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: a petite young lady, the seat was reared all the 102 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: way back for a really tall person to dry. And 103 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: I knew right then that Tara Grinstead was long gone. 104 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: Now would it mean anything to a jury, I don't know, 105 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: but it meant something to me. Heather was a neat 106 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: nick about her car. Why would she leave it parked 107 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: perpendicular to the other spots and abandoned. 108 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: She would never do that. 109 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 7: No, absolutely, And I think two. What speaks to me 110 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 7: and spoke to the police department was I think this 111 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 7: meant that clearly someone picked her up that she was 112 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 7: comfortable with. This was not a struggle, This was not 113 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 7: a stranger abduction, but this was a situation where she 114 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 7: got out of the car, and she knew the individual 115 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 7: that she was going to meet. 116 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: She had her phone, her purchasing Nancy Live say, if 117 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: she had not known the individual, how would you expect 118 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: the scene to look differently? Because now I'm thinking back 119 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: to a morning anchor Jodhus and Trut who didn't show 120 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: up for her show first thing in the morning. Her 121 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: car was sitting out in the parking lot much like Heather's, 122 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: except a shoe, one of her high heeled shoe and 123 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 2: some hairsprung was lying in the parking lot near her car, 124 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: which to me indicated that fell out of her pocketbook 125 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: and she lost her She would have struggled. 126 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: But you're saying just the way that this is amazing. 127 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: Nancy Laife say, hey, you know, Jimmy Richardson, you got 128 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: to keep her right there. 129 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: I hope you know that. 130 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: What would you have expected at the scene if there 131 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: had been a struggle. 132 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 7: Something similar to what you just discussed, a missing shoe, 133 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 7: jumped and fallen out of her pocketbook, maybe even the phone. 134 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 7: Maybe the person got the phone from her and she 135 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 7: lost control of the phone. But clearly the fact that 136 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 7: the doors were locked, the windows were up, she had 137 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 7: her phone she had her keys, she had her pocketbook. 138 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 7: There was no sign of a struggle at all. 139 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 8: Interesting jump in there was a trailer park right beside 140 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 8: Peachtree Landing, and the police comb that trailer park or 141 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 8: anyone that would have heard the sign of a struggle, gunshot, argument, 142 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 8: anything like that. And it was within fifty yards of 143 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 8: where Heather's car was parked in the middle of the 144 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 8: night with very little sound. Nobody heard anything, so it 145 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 8: had to be a very quiet abduction. 146 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: Man, I am looking at shots of Heather right now. 147 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: Morgan Elvis is Heather's sister. Extremely close. I guess the 148 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: closest person in the world to me, other than my 149 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: twins and my husband, would be my sister, my sister 150 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: that I grew up with. Morgan, When did you learn 151 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: that Heather was missing? I'm going to get to the affair, 152 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 2: her unwitting affair with a married man. 153 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: What is it with married men? Oh? 154 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 2: Anyway, I want to talk to you, Morgan, about when 155 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: you learned Heather had seemingly just disappeared into thin air. 156 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 9: I was at the basketball game and I'm just done this. 157 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 9: I know it sounds weird and eveling that something was wrong, 158 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 9: I'd felt kind of off, and so I was sat 159 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 9: at this basketball game, was kind of relaying and turned 160 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 9: around and at the top of the bleachers my mother 161 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 9: was looking back at me, and she had a face 162 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 9: I had never seen her there before, and I knew 163 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 9: immediately something was terribly, terribly wrong. So she came down. 164 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 9: She had tears in her eyes, and she said, we 165 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 9: have to go out, We have to leave now. And 166 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 9: I didn't really know what was going on at that point, 167 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 9: but I knew, you know, this is something very dramatic, 168 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 9: this is something life altering. We got in the car 169 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 9: and it was silent on the way home, and when 170 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 9: I got there, it felt like everything happened so quickly 171 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 9: and in slow motion. At the same time, I learned 172 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 9: through hearing the conversations and kind of watching what was 173 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 9: going on. My dad was in a panic and a 174 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 9: frenzy on the phone, calling everyone he knew. My mom 175 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 9: was trying to tell me what was going on, but 176 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 9: wasn't really making any sense. It was a whirl end, 177 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 9: and honestly, I've blocked out a lot of the details 178 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 9: of that night. I remember more how I felt and 179 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 9: less about the actual words that were said. 180 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: I want to go to doctor Chloe Carmichael with US 181 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: renownedd psychologist, author of Nervous Energy, How Harnessed the Power 182 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: of your anxiety? 183 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: Doctor Chloe did did you hear what she was saying? 184 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: She remembers the moment and I'm projecting again when I 185 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: learned something had happened to my fiance, I didn't know 186 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: at the moment he had been murdered. I remember exactly 187 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: where I was, what happened, the exact words that were said. 188 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: But then. 189 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: Time before that, months, time after that, months and months 190 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: bordering on years are a blur. What is that phenomenon 191 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: that the sister Morgan has lost chunks of memory around 192 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 2: that she can remember feelings, but not exactly what happened. 193 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 10: Sure, Nancy, we call that a flash bulb memory, where 194 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 10: you have that moment in time and you remember it very, 195 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 10: very clearly, and oftentimes it is normal to not really 196 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 10: remember everything else so well after that point, because all 197 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 10: of a sudden, that's a moment where your mind was 198 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 10: given something really big and difficult to process, and so 199 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 10: after that point things can get a little bit blurry 200 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 10: as well as the time before, because the flashbulb moment 201 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 10: is such a disorientating moment. 202 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: You know, I'm looking at shots of Heather right now 203 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: and I believe that this is the outfit she was 204 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: wearing where she worked, the Tilted Kilt, a restaurant. Joining me, 205 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: Peter Sister, former lieutenant at Horry County PD who worked 206 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: on Heather's disappearance. Peter, it's great to have you along 207 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: with Nancy and Jimmy. 208 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: Thank you guys. 209 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 11: Peter. 210 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: I want to focus on what jumped out at you 211 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: at the scene where her. 212 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: In shrepid was found, but also at first look at 213 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: the out fit that she wore. 214 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: It's not exactly a Hooter's outfit, but it's a revealing outfit. 215 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: And that's what all the waitresses wore at the Tilted Kilt, 216 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: and that would make me concerned as an investigator on 217 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: the case, but makes me concerned right now that that 218 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: really opens up your pool of suspect. Every weirdo that 219 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: came into the Tilted Kilt and would stare or ogle 220 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: the waitresses suddenly becomes a suspect. Let's see that that 221 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: outfit that she had to wear at Tilted Kilt. 222 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that go ahead, Peter. 223 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 12: Outfits like that are are common in restaurants like Hooters 224 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 12: and Tilted Kilt. They're revealing yet not you know, too revealing, 225 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 12: And it's to draw attention, you know, with the customers 226 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 12: obviously Hooters and Tilted Kilt, you know, target and mail customers, 227 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 12: you know, and entice them with how you know, pretty 228 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 12: the girls look. So yeah, that's a problem. 229 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: Guys. 230 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: You're looking at shots of Heather Elvis. Where is Heather? 231 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: All we know right now is her car is found 232 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: parked perpendicular to all the other spots, and she's gone 233 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: with her cell phone and her pocketbook. But she's not 234 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: answering the cell phone. This is just a nineteen year. 235 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: Old girl who has been lured. 236 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: Into a sex affair with a much older and secretly 237 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: married man with three children. 238 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: Wow, what could go wrong? The search is on for Heather. Listen. 239 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 5: Corey County Police begin a missing person investigation. The area 240 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 5: around where her car is found in the boat landing 241 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 5: is searched by investigators, and the river bed is searched 242 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 5: by a team of rescue divers from Coastal Carolina University. 243 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 5: Searching physically around the area of the car is fruitless, 244 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 5: but using digital information from herself, number investigators begin to 245 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 5: build a timeline. Myrtle Beach, South Carolina is known as 246 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 5: a vacation destination for spring breakers and families alike, but 247 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 5: it's also a wonderful area to raise a family. Heather 248 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 5: Elvis is the oldest of Terry and Debbie Elvis's children, 249 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 5: and at twenty years old, she's moved out of the 250 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 5: family home and is living in an apartment with her 251 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 5: best friend and roommate, Brie Worrelman. Worrelman and Elvis work 252 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 5: together at the Tilted Kilt restaurant. 253 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: You know, at a. 254 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: Lot of colleges and universities, they only have room for 255 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: people to live in the dorms, say the first year 256 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: or the first two years, and then the students are 257 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: expected to go to off campus housing. At nineteen years old, 258 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: Heather had just moved in with her best friend, her roommate, Brianna, 259 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: and then here comes trouble. 260 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 13: Listen Well, working as a hostess at the Tilted Kilt, 261 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 13: Heather Elvis meets Sidney Moore, a welder by trade. Moore 262 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 13: has a company called Palmetto Maintenance that handles service of 263 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 13: restaurant equipment. Heather Elvis has an immediate attraction to Moore, 264 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 13: even though he is nearly twice her age. 265 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: She was happy. I mean she she had a crush 266 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: or you know, an affinity for him, and it was mutual. 267 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: They both, you know, courted each other. And I bet 268 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: it was mutual. 269 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: An old man like him hitting on a team girl. 270 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: What about those three children at home? That was smart? 271 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: Friends at WPDE ABC fifteen Straight out to Michael Baher, director, 272 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: producer of Vanished the Heather Elvis Case and founder of 273 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: True Case Films. He also created a docuseries, Vanished the 274 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: Heather Elvis Case. Michael Bayer, from all I have learned, 275 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: this nineteen year old girl did not know at the 276 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: beginning that her love object was married with three children. 277 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: That's correct, Nancy. 278 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 14: In the beginning, in the first few dates, she had 279 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 14: no idea that he was a married man. 280 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: But isn't it true, Michael, And I've learned this from 281 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: you and your incredible popodcast and docuseries Vanish the Heather 282 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: Elvis Case. That he, however, was going around bragging about 283 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: his dating a much younger woman, Heather, and was telling 284 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: people that he and his wife had an open marriage. 285 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: Is that true? 286 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 14: That's correct? So he was open about the relationship at 287 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 14: the Tilted Kill he worked there along with Heather, so 288 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 14: he was also telling people, Look, you know my wife 289 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 14: knows about this. You know she has her own relationships too, 290 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 14: So this isn't something that you know, is unnormal or 291 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 14: anything like that. We have an open relationship, is what 292 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 14: he was telling everybody around there. 293 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: Okay, hold it right there, Michael Bayer. 294 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: I've got a much older guy dating a teen girl 295 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: who doesn't know that he is married with three children, 296 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: and he's bragging about having an open marriage. I've made 297 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: it very clear, Jimmy Richardson, Horry County Solicitor, with my husband, 298 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: open marriage, open casket. I think he understands it really well. 299 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: Jimmy Richardson. Now it's my understanding, and I'm learning a 300 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: lot of this from you, and a lot of this 301 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 2: from Michael Bhaer and his podcast and documentary that the 302 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: older man had had many other sex affairs, but the 303 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: wife never cared until Heather Elvis came along. 304 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: Why. 305 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 8: I think Heather was beautiful and very young, and I 306 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 8: think that his wife really when she found out about Heather, 307 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 8: she was not nearly These other girls had never been 308 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 8: that beautiful or young, and I don't think she was 309 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 8: threatened by them, not to the extent that she was 310 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 8: by Heather. I think that Sydney had actually fallen for 311 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 8: Heather in some sort of way where maybe the other 312 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 8: ones it was just a true. 313 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: Well, as you heard Michael Bhaer say earlier, he worked 314 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 2: at Tilted Kill, not on the payroll, but he would 315 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: do maintenance there. And I can just see this old 316 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: perv walking around staring at Heather Elvis while he's got 317 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 2: three children at home. 318 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: Anyway, the wife does find out. 319 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 5: Listen, Heather Elvis and Sidney Moore are not secretive about 320 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 5: their affair. Heather doesn't know Moore is married, but in 321 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 5: a matter of week, Sidney Moore's wife, Tammy, finds out 322 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 5: and confronts Heather. Tammy Moore begins making calls to Heather's phone, 323 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 5: sending text messages, and even sends pictures of her and 324 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 5: Sidney having sex. Tammy isn't just terrorizing Heather Elvis. Friends 325 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 5: of the couple say Tammy was always in charge of 326 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 5: her relationship with Sidney, and now she forces Sidney to 327 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 5: get a tattoo of her name above his crotch. 328 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, you know, I'm sure I need a 329 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: shrink on this, but you know, it just seems to 330 00:18:53,560 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: me Nancy Life say here Horry County prosecutor intimately familiar 331 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: with this case, that if you have to force your 332 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: husband to get your name tattooed right above his crotch, 333 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: you should probably just break up. 334 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: If it's come to that. It's like branding him. 335 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 2: If you can't trust him as far as you can 336 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: throw him, just get rid of him, start over with 337 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 2: somebody new, consider it a starter marriage, and get the 338 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 2: real one for Pete's sake. 339 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 7: I couldn't agree more. And it wasn't just the tattoo 340 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 7: that she had taken his phone. We had information where 341 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 7: she was handcuffing him to the bed instead of letting 342 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 7: him go. Tammy took the opposite route and double down 343 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 7: on Sydney and her control of Sydney. 344 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: I've got a question. Is he. 345 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 2: The married man? You all refer to him by his 346 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 2: first name. I guess you're all on a first name 347 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: basis with him. I'm not Sidney Moore wife Tammy Moore. 348 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: Is he younger than Tammy Moore? Does anybody know that. 349 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 7: He is younger but just spent maybe two or three 350 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 7: years it's been a huge age gap, but he is 351 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 7: a little younger than. 352 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 2: No, it's not Nancy live say, but doctor Chloe Carmichael. 353 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: It could be one year, it could be six months. 354 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 2: That goes into her mentality the wife, the freaky, jealous, 355 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: tattoo loving wife, the branding wife, because in her mind, 356 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 2: I guarantee you, Oh, I got a younger man, I'm 357 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,239 Speaker 2: going to have a hard time holding on to him. 358 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: My question is why would you want to? I mean, 359 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: you've already raised children. Why raise a man for Pete's sake? 360 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 2: But that said, I think this played into her paranoia, 361 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 2: Doctor Chloe. 362 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 10: Well, Nancy, I totally agree with you. I mean, obviously 363 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 10: the sensible thing to do would be to just move on. 364 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 10: But my guess is it could be a variety of things. 365 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 10: But she might have felt like that would be admitting defeat. 366 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 10: You know, sometimes there can be just a really fierce 367 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 10: sense of competition, and instead of leaving, because that would 368 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 10: feel like, you know, kind of going away with your 369 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 10: tail between your leg, the wife might feel like she 370 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 10: has to kind of come back and reclaim him. 371 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with. 372 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 5: Nancy Grace, Heather Elvis, Room Made and best Friends says 373 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 5: Tammy Moore harasses the much younger Heather by calling her 374 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 5: for hours on end. Tammy even calls Heather using Sydney's 375 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 5: phone and forces Sydney to tell Heather she meant nothing 376 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 5: to him, she was just a booty call, and other 377 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 5: horrible things that leave Heather Elvis in a state of shock. 378 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 5: It takes time, but the calls in tech slow down 379 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 5: and eventually stop, and Heather begins looking forward to the 380 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 5: future again too. 381 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: Debbie and Morgan Elvis, this is these are Heather's mom 382 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: and sister. Did she ever reveal to you, Debbie, all 383 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: of the harassing phone calls from the. 384 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: Tammy Moore? 385 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: Did she ever state that she was concerned about it 386 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: and that they wouldn't stop. 387 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: They were all hours of the day or night. 388 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 6: She mentioned some phone calls when she got sent home 389 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 6: from work. There was a problem at work where she 390 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 6: was being harassed and police recalled. 391 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 7: She was sent home. 392 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: She was Heather does not like to miss work. 393 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 6: And she was very upset about being sent home and 394 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 6: missing work. So she came to the house and was 395 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 6: telling me. She read me this whole conversation on the phone, 396 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 6: and the last of it she responded with the period, 397 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 6: and she said, because that's what I think about that, 398 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 6: and was telling me that this girl was obsessed with her, 399 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 6: that it was an ex of somebody that she had 400 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 6: been dating, that she was no longer dating, and that's 401 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 6: all I knew. I didn't know about married mann. I 402 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 6: didn't know about all of the phone calls and texts 403 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 6: and pictures, so she was I didn't know any of 404 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 6: that until Again. 405 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 2: She probably didn't want you to know what had happened 406 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 2: in her life. And I'd like to point out that 407 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 2: the reason she came home from work that day is 408 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: that some of the other waitresses were making fun of 409 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 2: her about Tammy Moore constantly calling her and texting her, 410 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: and they were making light of it, and it was 411 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: just too much for this little teen girl to take. 412 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: But we know, Michael Bayer that as time went on, 413 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: weeks went by, months went by, the call subsided and 414 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: she began dating another guy more her age, right. 415 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 14: That's correct. She ended up meeting a guy named Steven Schiraldi. 416 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 14: I think it was over Instagram. They went to the 417 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 14: same high school, but I don't think they knew each 418 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 14: other in high school. So someone that she met over 419 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 14: social media and then she agreed to go on a 420 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 14: date with. 421 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: Him, and I was looking at their day. 422 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 2: They were driving around looking at Christmas lights, and he 423 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: was teaching her to drive a stick shift. I know 424 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: that because she took a selfie of herself trying to 425 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: learn to drive a stick shift, and he brings her 426 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: home that night. 427 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: Listen. 428 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 5: Steven Schiraldi drops Heather Elvis off at her apartment around 429 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 5: one fifteen am December eighteenth. Heather's best friend and room mate, 430 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 5: Breed Warrelman, is visiting family out of state when Heather 431 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 5: calls her at one forty four am. Breed thinks Heather 432 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 5: is calling to tell her about her date. Instead, Heather 433 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 5: Elvis is hysterical. She tells Warrelman Sidney Moore called telling 434 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 5: her he's leaving his wife and wants her to meet 435 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 5: up with him. Warrelman tells Elvis not to meet with 436 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 5: him right now, just sleep on it. The call lasts 437 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 5: for two minutes. 438 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: So Nancy live say, let me understand Sidney Moore and 439 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: his crazy. 440 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: Wife, Tammy Moore. And I mean that in a liy sense, 441 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: not the legal sense. She's not insane. 442 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 2: After a period of quiet, suddenly he the married ex 443 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: of three children, calls her in the middle of the 444 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: night and says he wants to get back together and 445 00:24:59,080 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: to come meet him. 446 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: That right, that's right. 447 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 7: And we figured out later that that phone call was 448 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 7: made from a payphone, so Sydney had gone. Sidney Moore 449 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 7: had gone to a payphone around one thirty in the 450 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 7: morning and placed this call to Heather Elvis. The phone 451 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 7: call was about four minutes and you see from the 452 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 7: phone call that she immediately calls the roommate and relays 453 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 7: everything said on the phone call. 454 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 2: And that phone call is where everything goes sideways. 455 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: Listen, we know that. 456 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 4: The cell phone was last used three forty one Wednesday 457 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 4: morning am. 458 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 3: That's being a confer Investigators find that a phone call 459 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: was placed to Heather at one thirty five am from 460 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 3: a payphone. According to what roommate brewel police, this might 461 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 3: have been a call from Sidney Moore. Heather cell phone 462 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 3: receives another call from a payphone at two thirty am, 463 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 3: no one answers. At three thirty seven am, Heather's phone 464 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 3: moves from Peacetree Landing. Shortly after three thirty seven am, 465 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 3: multiple calls are made to Sidney Moore's phone, but go unanswered. 466 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 3: At six am, all activity on Heather's phone stops. 467 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 2: That's our friends at hl N. But then we have 468 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: to look at the digital phone records. What do we 469 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: learn to Peter Sister, former Lieutenant Horry County PD, who 470 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 2: worked this case. What did the digital the cell phone 471 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: evidence show you? And who uses a payphone? 472 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 11: For Pete's sake, he had used a payphone to contact 473 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 11: her at about one point thirty in the morning, but 474 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 11: the digital signal from her phone, we're able to track 475 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 11: her phone after that point where she travels. 476 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 12: Back home to her apartment and then travels further north 477 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 12: in the Myrtle Beach area. I'm assuming looking to meet 478 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 12: up with him. She then turns around, comes back towards 479 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 12: her apartment stocks there momentarily before her phone tracks from 480 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 12: her apartment straight down to the Peachtree Landing. 481 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: After a period of doldrums where this young teen girl 482 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 2: hears nothing from her married ex or his crazy wife, 483 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 2: we think we understand now what was the tipping point? 484 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 5: Listen investigators be in to build a case. Phone records 485 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 5: reveal activity between Heather and Sydney Moore's phones in the 486 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 5: early hours of December eighteenth, surveillance footage shows more purchasing 487 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 5: a pregnancy test at Walmart at one twelve am, and 488 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 5: Moore is also captured on surveillance making a call from 489 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 5: a payphone to Heather's cell phone at one thirty five am. 490 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: Oh my stars to Nancy live say joining us Hory 491 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 2: County Prosecutor Nancy. So the all married man gets the 492 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: teen girl pregnant? Is that who? The pregnancy test is 493 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: four and the wife is in there or the husband 494 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 2: is in there buying a pregnancy test, and then we 495 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: see him at a payphone calling her. 496 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 7: That's correct, and that's what the evidence shows, is that 497 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 7: there had been some changes in Heather Elvis's body prior 498 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 7: to this phone call, and in fact such a significant 499 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 7: change she required a new uniform at Tilted Killed. There 500 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 7: had been phone calls from. 501 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: Call on just to moment. 502 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: Jimmy Richardson, Nancy Livesay is being extremely delicate. 503 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: Richardson, Horry County Solicitor. What do you mean? Why did 504 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: she have to get a new uniform? Richardson? 505 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 8: She had gone from like a be cup to a 506 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 8: D cup almost over night. Her breast had grown. She 507 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 8: had had to change uniforms and go up like two sizes, 508 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 8: and she was apparently talking to other workers that she 509 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 8: felt like she was pregnant. Plus they were putting two 510 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 8: and two together. That is why we believe that fifteen 511 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 8: minutes before being caught on the payphone, which was caught 512 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 8: by camera, he was caught by another camera at Walmart 513 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 8: buying a cigar and a pregnancy test. So he immediately 514 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 8: went from the Walmart straight up the road. Tammy was 515 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 8: in the vehicle with him. They drive straight up the 516 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 8: road maybe half of a mile to that payphone, and 517 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 8: that is the first call that Heather is heard from 518 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 8: Sydney Moore in. 519 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 2: Months Crime stories with Nancy Grace. 520 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: When was the last time you were here with them 521 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: or talk to them or anything like that. It was 522 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: earlier tonight. I don't know the exact time, but okay, 523 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: I left. 524 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 14: I was probably going an hour and a half for 525 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 14: my mom's and I saw them about forty five minutes 526 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 14: before that. 527 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. We all know. 528 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 2: Alex Murdog now convicted of the double murders of his 529 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: wife Maggie and son Paul, gunning them down, then pretending 530 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 2: he wasn't at the crime scene. That's him lying to 531 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: police about being at his mom's at the time the 532 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 2: two were murdered. But you know what, cell phone data 533 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 2: doesn't lie. Neither didn't have systems in his car. But 534 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: I love the way he broke off just for like 535 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: a split one second to have a little whimper of. 536 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: Pain, really murdog. 537 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: Same thing here to Michael Baher producer of Vanished to 538 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 2: Heather Elvis Cases documentary as well, what does the digital 539 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: path prove about these payphones and her phone as well? 540 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 14: Well, I think the investigators were able to kind of 541 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 14: put together a path of where Hea there was because 542 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 14: after getting that payphone call, she was then her phone 543 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 14: pinged and she had another her cell phone call where 544 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 14: she went out to the Carolina Forest and that's where 545 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 14: she ended up speaking to Sidney Moore. And then she 546 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 14: actually went back to her apartment. They're able to ping 547 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 14: it there, and then she finally then went to the 548 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 14: Peachtree Boat Landing where her phone pinged one more time 549 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 14: and that was the last time that it pinged. 550 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: The Antebelle and home we're showing you is actually divided 551 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: up into apartments. 552 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: This is her apartment. 553 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 2: Her phone pained there to Peter to Stare and joining 554 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 2: us former lieutenant and Horry County PD who worked this case. 555 00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: What did you make the digital evidence? The self evidence? 556 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: It's powerful, The triangulation process is undeniable, and it proves 557 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 2: a lot. I don't care what these two say. The 558 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: digital evidence shows something very different. And again, who uses 559 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 2: a payphone when you've got a cell phone? You use 560 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: a payphone? Or put your phone in airplane mode or 561 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: turn it off like Brian Coburger. 562 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: Out of all the. 563 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: Time his phone was monitored, when did he turn it 564 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 2: off when he's leaving the quadruple murder scene? 565 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: According to prosecutors? So what did you learn? 566 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: What did you learn from a review of all of 567 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 2: this digital evidence? 568 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: Peter? 569 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 12: The phone tells the entire story of what's going on. Obviously, 570 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 12: you can't tell whether the phone is in Heather's possession, 571 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 12: but that's the assumption. But the phone tracks from her 572 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 12: apartment up to that long Beard's Bar and grill. And 573 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 12: the reason why I believe it tracked up to there 574 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 12: was at some point Sydney Moore had told Heather that 575 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 12: he was working at Longhorns, another local steakhouse. I think 576 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 12: she did not quite understand what he said and thought 577 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 12: it was Long Beards, which is closer to her home. 578 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 12: She then travels up there spends about fifteen minutes. The 579 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 12: phone then travels back down towards her apartment, stops in 580 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 12: the parking lot of her apartment again before it then 581 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 12: begins to move again, going south from her residence to 582 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 12: the Peachtree Landing. 583 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: And you know what else is interesting, peters to stare, 584 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 2: is my understanding that Timmy and cdey Moore lived about 585 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: three miles from the landing Ptree Landing where her intrepid 586 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 2: her car is found part perpendicular. 587 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: Isn't that right? They live very close to that. 588 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 12: That's correct, They do live very close. And the road 589 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 12: take you from the Mora's house to the Peachtree Landing 590 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 12: is all back roads, so it's not like you're coming 591 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 12: out onto any main highways. However, in those back roads 592 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 12: were some cameras that enabled us to catch glimpses of 593 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 12: vehicles going by. 594 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so happy you said that. 595 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 2: Peter Sistaire still on the money here, former Lieutenant Hory 596 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 2: County PD. He knows the facts like the back of 597 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 2: his hands. Nancy Live say he's right, And dare I 598 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 2: bring up Alex Murdoch again, who arranged for himself to 599 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 2: be shot in the head. He lived, but he thought 600 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 2: there were no cameras anywhere around when that happened. But 601 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 2: lo and behold on that rural road where he had 602 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 2: his dope dealer shoot him and then try to pretend 603 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 2: it was the real killer of his wife and son. 604 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 2: There was a security survey camera at a Baptist church 605 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 2: way down the road where he turned. 606 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: In, and he was busted on that video surveillance. 607 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 2: Nancy, explain to me, what is Peter Sisier talking about 608 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 2: that a Ford f one fifty, a dark Ford f 609 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: one fifty is passed going to the landing where her 610 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 2: car was found. 611 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: Who's for f one fifty? I think I know the 612 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: answer to that. 613 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 7: That's right, It's going to be Sidney Moores and Tammy Moore's. 614 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 7: And in fact, there was one camera on eight fourteen, 615 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 7: which was the road they lived on, and then when 616 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 7: you take a right to get on Mill Pond to 617 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 7: go down to the landing, there was a second camera, 618 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 7: so you literally see them leave their house, go down 619 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 7: eight fourteen, they're caught on camera, and then take the 620 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 7: right and go down Mill Pond and go towards Peachtree Landing, 621 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 7: so they were called twice clearly going to the landing. 622 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 2: Did a married woman, the mother of three, manipulate her 623 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 2: husband to help her commit murder of a teen girl, 624 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 2: a restaurant hostess now pregnant with her husband's baby. It 625 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 2: wouldn't be the first time women have manipulated their love 626 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 2: object into murder. Listen when Jay asked, Okay, well, what 627 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: did you do about it? 628 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: Back then? 629 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 6: Diane looked this man dead in the eyes and said, 630 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 6: I made him kill the girl. 631 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 5: Dating with high school Dianza Mora and David Graham planned 632 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 5: to serve in the Navy and Air Force, respectively after graduation. 633 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 5: They also planned to get married. When David confesses to 634 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 5: Diane that he had sex with another girl, Adrian Jones, 635 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 5: so Mara becomes hysterical and tells him the only way 636 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 5: she'll ever trust him again is if he kills Jones. 637 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 5: Graham agrees and lures Jones out of her house, drives 638 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 5: her to Joe Pool Lake. Once parked, Diane Zamora, quietly 639 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 5: hidden in the vehicle, hits Jones in the head with 640 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 5: a dumbbell. Jones tries to run, but Graham gives chase, 641 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 5: catches her, and shoots her twice in the head, with 642 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 5: the whole world. 643 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: In front of them. 644 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 2: Cadets at the Naval Academy and the Air Force Academy 645 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 2: plot murder and then murder a sixteen year old little 646 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 2: girl that was working at a drive through over jealousy. 647 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 1: Sound familiar. 648 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 2: And then, of course there's the case of Potus Dulos, 649 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 2: who murders his wife, Jennifer Dulos, the mother of their 650 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 2: five children, with the help of his lover, Michelle Traconas. 651 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 2: There you see the video of Potus at Dulos throwing Oh, 652 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 2: there's Michelle Traconas rearing her ugly head, the two of 653 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 2: them throwing out bloody items, shirts, bra rags, sponges, drenched 654 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 2: and the blood of Jennifer Dulos. What makes a woman 655 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 2: help a murderous man, or in the current case, what 656 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 2: makes a woman manipulate her husband into killing his teen lover? 657 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 2: That's the question. Then, of course we've got Natalie Keepers 658 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 2: and David Eisenhower. She took part Natalie Keepers and the 659 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 2: murder and the disposal of the body of a little girl, 660 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 2: a thirteen year old girl. 661 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 9: You're David, You're my crush, and I know you don't 662 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 9: think of me like that, and I don't care. 663 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 6: I will always be here. 664 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 1: If you're looking for a good time, I'm here. When 665 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: you had a bad day, I'm here. And I don't 666 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: want that to change. I want to be in your 667 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: life for as long as you can see. 668 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 9: Any And I know I'm annoying and I asked her 669 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 9: too much, but I'm a girl and I have a 670 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 9: hard and feelings and my feelings get hurt a lot, 671 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 9: but it's never been. 672 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 1: Hurt by you, and I like that. 673 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 15: The FBI figured out that Cool had regular Will you 674 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 15: use the app? Kick? That app allows teens to communicate 675 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 15: anonymously so their parents don't know. David Eisenhower lured this 676 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 15: little girl out of her home with promises of a 677 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 15: quote secretsty and murdered her in cold blood because he 678 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 15: was apparently afraid that the relationship was going to be 679 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 15: exposed by this precious little girl. When Cool body was found, 680 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 15: she had fourteen stab wounds. One was to the neck, 681 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 15: as confirmed by a medical expander. 682 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 2: A little teen girl murdered, and Natalie Keepers was right 683 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 2: in there helping Eisenhower do the deed. 684 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: I guess the one that would. 685 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 2: Really take the cake would be killer wife Carla Homolka. 686 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 5: Carla Hamolka and Paul Bernardo looked like the couple poised 687 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 5: atop a wedding cake, but their beautiful looks hide an 688 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 5: ugly secret. Together, the married couple rape, torture, and kill 689 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 5: at least three underage girls, including Carla's little sister Tammy. 690 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 5: When Tammy chokes on her own vomited dies. Based on 691 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 5: statements from Hamoka and Bernardo, the death is ruled an 692 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 5: accident straight. 693 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 2: Out to Debbie and Morgan Elvis, the mom and sister 694 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 2: of Heather. 695 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: Now that we know. 696 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 2: That these two gules straight from Hell's and Timmy Moore 697 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 2: are responsible for the disappearance of Heather, what is your 698 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 2: message tonight, Debbie. 699 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 6: I'm hoping that all of this new publicity is going 700 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 6: to bring some new tips in. I'm hoping that somebody 701 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:17,919 Speaker 6: will see this and. 702 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: Say, oh, somebody told me about this. 703 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 6: So one of their family members said this, or this 704 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 6: is where they used to hang out or hide stuff, 705 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 6: any little part of information that somebody has about them, 706 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,919 Speaker 6: their nature, their lifestyle that might lead us to where 707 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 6: Heather is. That's what I feel comes. 708 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 2: Next do you believe, Debbie, and this is a hard question. 709 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: Do you believe that there is any hope that Heather 710 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 2: is still alive? Or are you hoping to bring her 711 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 2: body home and bury her. 712 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 6: I hope to bring her home in any way that's possible, 713 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 6: in any form or that's possible. And I refuse to 714 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 6: give a video hoope about any possible way to bring 715 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 6: her home or anything that might have happened or be happening. 716 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 2: If you know or think you know anything about the 717 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 2: disappearance and what many people believe to be the murder 718 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 2: of this teen girl, Heather Elvis, please dial eight four 719 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 2: three nine one five eight four seven seven repeat eight 720 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 2: four three, nine one five, eight four seven seven. We 721 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 2: remember American hero Deputy Sheriff Nicholas Waste, Knox County Sheriff's Illinois, 722 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 2: killed in the line of duty. Survived by wife turned widow, Jessica, children, 723 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 2: Ava and Emery. American hero Deputy Sheriff Nicholas Waste, Nancy 724 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 2: Gray signing off goodbye for 725 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 12: Us