1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace cutting and dying her hair, 2 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: having plastic surgery to alter her nose, using a fake id, 3 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: living and a hostel up in a tree in Costa Rica. 4 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: Sounds like a lot to allude authorities, but it wasn't enough. 5 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: Glam yoga and schroer Taitlin Armstrong arrested. I mean, I 6 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: see Grace. This is crime Stories. Thank you for being 7 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: with us here at Fox Nation and Serious m eleven. 8 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: First of all, take a listen to our friends at 9 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: Fox seven A first look and accused murderer Caitlin Armstrong 10 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: and custody in Costa Rica after more than a month 11 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: on the run. Her long golden hair now shoulder length, 12 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: and she also died her hair to a darker brown color. 13 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: Early in the case, Fox reported a Utah based investigator 14 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: was looking at the possibility Armstrong was using the identity 15 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: of her brunette, New York based sister. Thirty four year 16 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: old Armstrong flew into New York on May fourteenth, two 17 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: days after being questioned about the murder of her romantic rival, 18 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: professional cyclist Anna Mariah Wilson. Armstrong flew to Costa Rica 19 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: from New Jersey four days after she landed in New 20 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: York using a fraudulent passport. Around that same time, Fox 21 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: reported her sister registered for a New York State driver's license. 22 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: At this time, Marshals are not confirming that Armstrong used 23 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: her sister's identity, only telling Fox seven Austin that fraudulent 24 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: passport was very particular her as far as physical descriptions 25 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: that very closely matched. I mean, a total maker ever 26 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: to make herself look more like her sister. I mean, 27 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: they can say what they want. Did I listen to them? 28 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: Or believe my own lion eyes? Again, thank you for 29 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: being with us here at Fox Nations series X one eleven, 30 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: with me and I'll star panel to make sense of 31 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: what we know right now. Matthew Mangino, high profile lawyer 32 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: and author of Executioner's Told Doctor Angela Arnold, renowned psychiatrists 33 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: out of the Atlanta Jurisdiction at Angela Arnold MD dot com, 34 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: Former US Marshals with the Service International Investigations Branch and 35 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: author of Flying Solo. Professor Forensics, jacksonvill State University, Joe 36 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: Scott Morgan at First to Crime Online dot com investigative 37 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: reporter Alexis terres Chuck Alexis Costa Rica, dye her hair, 38 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: cutting her hair, plastic surgery. I really don't even know 39 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: where to start, but let's start with where is Santa 40 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: Teresa in Costa Rica? I mean, is it close to Liberia? 41 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: Where the airport is? Is a near Tamarindo? Are in 42 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: all where the volcano is? Where can I find Santa Teresa? 43 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: It is a beach count It is not you not 44 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: near and all the volcano which hours away from there, 45 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: And it is a beach town and it is a 46 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: very while she was living in a kindy little hostel, 47 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: which is you know, where students stay, because very inexpensive 48 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: and you just stay like one or two nights while 49 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: you're traveling through town. This is also a very fancy 50 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: resort town because Tom Brady and Jazell Buncheon have a 51 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: home there and so they vacation there. So this is 52 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: not a small town that's not on anyone's radars. I 53 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: knew this somehow, you being in La you would work 54 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: in some stars. Okay, you know who the star of 55 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: this story is. Mo Mariah Wilson, a twenty five year 56 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: old young girl who spent years of hard work, grit, determination, 57 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: devotion to become one of the top mud and gravel 58 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: cyclists in the world twenty five years old. You know, 59 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: twenty five when you think nothing bad can happen to you, 60 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: when you're invincible, where you're pretty sure if you jumped 61 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: off the roof you could fly that twenty five. That's 62 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: the star of this not as even though I love 63 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: Tom and as you sell, I'm talking about Mariah Wilson 64 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: and what this cunning yet beautiful which did on impulse 65 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: to hunt down and murder a defenseless girl. I don't 66 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: care how glam she is or what yoga class she talked. 67 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: She can rotten hell as far as I'm concerned. So 68 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: let's forget about the stars. Alexis terres Chuck, you know, 69 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: just try to transplant yourself out of la and back 70 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: in to the regular people world for a minute. So 71 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: if it's not I get she's near Tom Brady's home. 72 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: But if Santa Theresa is not near RNL, it's not 73 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: near Liberia, a city in Costa Rica, it's not near Tamarindo, 74 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: then where is it. It is on the beach. It 75 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: is a very small beach town on the coast of 76 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: Costa Rica. Okay, well, you know, Costa Rica is in 77 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: the middle of the ocean. So where I'm trying to 78 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: figure out I have a reason for this. Let me 79 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: go to a brand with me former US Marshal Service, 80 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: or I'm trying to figure out what airport in Costa 81 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: Rica let her slip through their fingers. I mean, she 82 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: had to get to the airport, right, So did she 83 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: use the main airport in Liberia, Costa Rica or what? Now? 84 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure she flew into San Jose, Costa Rica then 85 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: took one of the shuttle buses. Why do you say 86 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: that the direct flights from the United States almost all 87 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: of them go directly into San Jose where you're coming 88 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: from Houston, Dallas. That's interesting because from Atlanta you fly 89 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: directly into Liberia if you want to. Well, there are 90 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: there are some, but it's not a lot. You're right, 91 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: So you say she flew into San Jose Coastrika. That's 92 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: why I'm asking Elesas to as chuck before I hear 93 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: any more about Tom Brady's mansion, which we can discuss 94 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: that another time. But how the heck did she do it? 95 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: That's what I'm getting at. But you know what alexis, 96 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: she went to great efforts to change her identification. Right, 97 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: But you said something really interesting to me, He says, 98 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: she was staying in a hostel. Tell me a lot 99 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: of people don't know what a hostel is, but that's 100 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: a great place to hide out. Explain, and this was 101 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: like a treehouse hostel. It is so the beach town. 102 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: The hostel is where usually students stay when they travel 103 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: around the world. They're very inexpensive. It's not a hotel. 104 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: You don't have usually a private room or even a 105 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: private bathroom. You have more like a dormitory style room. 106 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: And you might have like a locker to put your 107 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: things in, but you certainly couldn't have your own room 108 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: in a hotel. And the hostel I have like coffee 109 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: and but nothing else. Is not a fancy hotel. They're 110 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: not gonna have room service. And if you're staying in 111 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: a hostel, I and Ie, you definitely wear flip flops 112 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: in the shower, okay, because it's all communal. And I 113 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: think in this case was Alexa Trusta. Didn't she share 114 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: her room with like eight other people in bunk beds. 115 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: She did, And the people that stayed in the hostel 116 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: that saw her would observe that she she really didn't 117 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: have a job when she got there, and so she 118 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: would go out. She'd leave the hostel late at night. 119 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: So I was very very very lated night. I wait 120 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: wait wait, wait, wait, wait, Alexa, slow down, tell me 121 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: that again. Now she was si people that were in 122 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: the hostel with her. So she gets to Costa Rica. 123 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: She stays in this little hostel which is only about 124 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: fifty dollars a night to so a lot of money, 125 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: but nothing not a five thousand dollars a night resort. 126 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: But she would go out late at night. She would 127 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: leave the hostel every most people don't hang out at 128 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: the hostel all day. There's not a big fancy swimming 129 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: pool often, and she would stay out very very very 130 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: late at night, and then she would come in and 131 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: she would sleep because she didn't have a job, she 132 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: didn't have anywhere to be. She wasn't apparently going out 133 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: and seeing the sights or anything. So she would just 134 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: sleep super super late in the hostel and then she 135 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: would wake up. People notice, and then she would just 136 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: drink a ton of coffee that so they were noticing 137 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: about her, and she would There were a lot of chairs, 138 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, pretty view of the area, and she would 139 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: just sit in the chairs by herself and just drink 140 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: tons of coffee, and that was sort of her pattern. 141 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: I thought she got into yoga while she was there. 142 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: She did like surf yoga. What is that? I mean 143 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: I had to wrap my head around hot yoga, where 144 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: you do yoga and like a hundred degree temperatures inside 145 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: a studio. But that said, surf yoga, what's that? Surf yoga? 146 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: You surf and then you do you could there's lots 147 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: of things you can do yoga on the beach. You 148 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: can surf, and you could even do like paddleboard yoga, 149 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: which I have seen people do. What's paddleboard yoga? Do 150 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: you actually do the yoga poses while you're paddleboarding? Yes? Yeah, 151 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: I mean I just try to stay on the board. 152 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean I'd be holding off for dear life much. 153 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: Let's trying to do a yoga pose or a downard 154 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: facing dog or whatever. So surf yoga, I mean, really 155 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: think about this, or Brandt and doctor Angie Arnold, Matthew Mangina, 156 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: just gott jump in. This is not High Tea at 157 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: High Grove. We're not at Bucketingham Palace with the queen, 158 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: So jump in or Brandt. Really, that would be like 159 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: me trying to go hide out and prosecuting felonies in 160 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: Costa Rica. That's not hiding out. She's doing surfing yoga. 161 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: She's trying to advance her trade. She's gonna start teaching 162 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: yoga again. It's like taking out a billboard on Third 163 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: Avenue going hey, here I am, come and get me. 164 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure the Marshall Service when they sent the lead 165 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: down to the Coastrea employees, the first thing they asked 166 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: was checked every yoga studio in the country. You're right, 167 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: wasn't very smart. She probably had her yoga map with 168 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: or wouldn't when she was arrests she did. Did you 169 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: see her in the airport? She had her yoga mat 170 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: on her back, carrying her yoga mat. It's like wearing 171 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: a neon sign saying here I am, I'm a killer. 172 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: I mean, what is wrong with her, doctor Angela Arnold 173 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: besides cold blooded killer? But she goes to all these efforts, 174 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: which I like to ione should jump into in a second, 175 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: dyeing her hair. She had the band aid on her 176 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: nose from nose surgery. I think to make herself look 177 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: more like her sister in that fake passport. But she 178 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: went to all these efforts to go on her an 179 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: assumed name and change her looks, but she was still 180 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: teaching yoga, still doing yoga classes. So Nancy, first of all, 181 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: we call that a very incongruent behavior. Okay, the one 182 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: versus the other. Okay, right there, that didn't make sense. 183 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: We call that, would you conguent? Oh? Okay, Wait, now 184 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: that I analyze what you're saying, in kongruent means it 185 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: doesn't fit together. It doesn't. So going through all that 186 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: effort to change her appearance and then teaching or taking 187 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: yoga classes to give her away doesn't fit together. Okay, 188 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: Now I had to think that format so incongruent. And 189 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: the next thing you were going to say is people 190 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: don't change their habits, Nancy, So she did. She did. 191 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: She performed certain things to get herself out of the 192 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: country and to hide, and then it appears she sort 193 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: of forgot about that and went right back into her 194 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: habits of normal life, assuming that people weren't going to 195 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: weren't going to pick up on the fact that she's 196 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: this big yoga person. So she only changed her appearance 197 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: and things like that to get out of the country. 198 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: Then once she was out of the country, she re 199 00:11:53,600 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: did her habits and that was her downfault time stories 200 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace, you know, Matthew Mangino with me, former prosecutor, 201 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: And let me tell you something, when you prosecute case 202 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: after case after case after case for years, you get 203 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: the knack of figuring out the criminal mind. Mangino, this woman, 204 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: she may be glamorous, she may be beautiful, but she 205 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,359 Speaker 1: is just as evil and just as cunning as every 206 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: other premeditated killer. I am not swayed by what was 207 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: once her beautiful appearance, although she's tried to hide it. 208 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: But one thing you can count on, a criminal cannot 209 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: change their basic behavior, right And I think that that 210 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: you know, her can with regard to teaching yoga and stuff, 211 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: is indicative that this wasn't well planned out. You know, 212 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: certainly it's premeditated. You know, she went there with a weapon, 213 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: but she went there in response to her boyfriend having 214 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: gone swimming with Anna Wilson or Matthew Matthew place, you know, 215 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: having gone swimming. That may have been all they did 216 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: at that day, but I guarantee you that's not all 217 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: that the BF boyfriend had on his mind. Okay, because 218 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: he went so far as to hide her name under 219 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: a fake name in his cell phone lie to the 220 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: yoga instructor at kaitlin I was strong about where he 221 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: was going. He kept the lie up all day long, 222 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: even though armist I was falling him around town, watching him. 223 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 1: She knew what he was doing and getting us. Let 224 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: me just say stupid text, Hey, I'm delivering flowers, I'm 225 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: this and that. Oh it was just this so clichease 226 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: like back connection. Can't hear you? He's like, oh my battery, Jackie. 227 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: Didn't he say his battery? What did on a cell phone? 228 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: I mean really seriously, that's why they have phone chargers 229 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: for your car. It's just a liar. But she's watching 230 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: him as he's telling all these lies in his text. 231 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: That is premeditation. She's talking these two all day long. 232 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: I guarantee you he had more in his mind than 233 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: going for a dip in his swimsuit with mo. Okay, 234 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: that was enough that night to set her off to 235 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: go there with a gun to shoot her. And now 236 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: she has to make plans how she's going to conceal 237 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: what she did or change her. It's like a bad 238 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: classic film noir. She gets a passport, she she gets 239 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: plastic surgery. You know, she moves out of the country. 240 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this is classic indication of flight and you know, 241 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: a consciousness of guilt. Man, Yeah, Nancy, you know, kind 242 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: of dovetailing with Matt here. I got to tell you. 243 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: One of the things that was very interesting about the 244 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: scene and what we've heard coming out, is that they 245 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: apparently recovered a suppressed weapon, which means, you know common 246 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: parlance people use, you know, they'll say silencer. There is 247 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: no such thing as a silencer. It's a it's a suppressor, 248 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: and it's one thing to go out and buy a handgun. 249 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: But she apparently in her possession, had a handgun that 250 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: had a threaded external barrel, which means that you would 251 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: take the suppressor and place it on the end. You 252 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: have to screw it on right a minute, warp speed. 253 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: Do you ever watched Star Trek, Because you're talking like 254 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: cling on right now, You've got to break it down. 255 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: What do you mean a threaded what? Slow down? Man? 256 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: You got a thread at external barrel, which means that 257 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: there's threads on the outside of the barrel. At the 258 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: tip of it, and the suppressor, which you have to 259 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: go through all kinds of paperwork to purchase one of 260 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: these things, has to be screwed on or locked in 261 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: place on the end of this muzzle. And so what 262 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: that tells me, if you're looking at this from an 263 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: investigative standpoint, that not only was she prepared, but she 264 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: had prepared for some time or they had prepared because 265 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: these weapons were in the possession of their home. You know, 266 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: they were found there was evidence of the weapons in 267 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: the home that she felt the need that she needed 268 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: a suppressed weapon. Why why do you need a suppressed 269 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: weapon exactly? Why? I mean, I'm calling it a silencer 270 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: because that's the common vernacular to describe it. When you 271 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: say it's not a silencer, you're right. It still makes 272 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: a sound, but nothing compared to what it would make 273 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: if you did not have, as you say, a suppressor 274 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: on it. I'm just curious where did they find the 275 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: suppressor still attached to the gun or did they find 276 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: the gun with the threading on it minus the suppressor. 277 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: That's a great question because they haven't really released a lot. 278 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: You know, there was like whoa Jackie shaking her head 279 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: but they have not released any information on that they 280 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: could find a gun alone at the home. Yeah, so 281 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: no suppressor, no silencer that we know of yet. So 282 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: why are you are you saying that, to your knowledge, 283 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: the gun was tricked out to facilitate a silencer. Yeah, yeah, 284 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: that's precisely what I'm saying. And they had alluded to 285 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: this in one of their previoit reports. How do you 286 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: know that, jo Scott? How do I know what that 287 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: the gun was tricked out for a silencer? Hello? How 288 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: do you know that? They stated in earlier reports that 289 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: a suppressed weapon was at her disposal. You're right, they 290 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: sure did, Joe Scott. You're right. You just don't go 291 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: out and buy a so called sub you know, if 292 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: you want to call it a silencer and screw it 293 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: onto a weapon, that's not how this works. You have 294 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: to have a weapon that will actually marry up with 295 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: a suppressor. I don't want to go too deep into it, 296 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: but it's like when people check out a car, you 297 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: can check out a gun. You can solve the barrel. 298 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you can make a soot off shotgun. You 299 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: can just all kind of things you can do to 300 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: a gun. But very simply put, Joe Scott Morgan, how 301 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: would you trick a gun to facilitate a silencer? Just 302 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: so that folks understand, you don't need to do this 303 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: at home, even though there are people that have that 304 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: expertise that are out there. You can purchase these directly. 305 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: You can purchase the external threaded weapon from a gun store. 306 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: They're out there. You can just walk down the aisle 307 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: and see them. And in a separate case, they will 308 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: have these suppress that are there, and so you purchase 309 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: that separately, and from the fed's perspective that has got 310 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: there's a separate route you have to go when you're 311 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: purchasing one of these suppressors. It's it's like a huge 312 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: paper trail that will lead back to whoever purchased this 313 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: thing and that she had access to it. At least 314 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: that's what the media has been saying. Is kind of 315 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: interesting to me, you know, why would this yoga instructor 316 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: need a suppress Guy so hearing Joe Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, 317 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: Jacksonal State University and author of Blood Beneath My Feet 318 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: on Amazon, Guys, take a listen now to our friends 319 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: at Fox seventh. How did they track her down. Listen. 320 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: The murder happened May eleventh. Fast forward to this week. 321 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: Authorities are now confident that Armstrong is in Costa Rica 322 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: and had used someone else's passport to get there, and 323 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: because of that immigration violation, Costa Rican law enforcement got 324 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: on board helping with surveillance, tracking the former yoga teacher 325 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 1: from the plane to a bus to the town of 326 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: Santa Teresa on the country's northern peninsula. We knew she 327 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: was gonna be associated with some type of yoga studio. 328 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: When those foreign officials arrived at that yoga studio, they 329 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: did find a handwritten log in that was the same 330 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: alias that she was going by when she traveled to 331 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: Costa Rica. So once they developed that pattern, it really 332 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: opened up things and really quickly closed in tracking her 333 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: to a local hostel. She cut her hair, she dyed 334 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: her hair. She claimed she had some type of injury 335 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: from a surfboard, where she was finally taken into custody 336 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, claiming she had an injury from a surfboard. 337 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: Alexis Tereste described the band aid that Caitlin Armstrong had 338 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: over her nose. It was a like a bandage that 339 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: would go across your nose as if you had a 340 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: broken nose, right, so it would kind of hold your 341 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: nose together on your face. And she also had two 342 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: black eyes and they said they were bruising under the eye. Exactly, God, 343 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: And isn't that normal, doctor Angela. The band aid, to 344 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: my understanding, is up along the bridge of the nose, 345 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,479 Speaker 1: shortly beneath the eyebrow level, not toward the tip of 346 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: your nose, and then you get bruising under the eyes 347 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: because blood from the surgery on the nose disseminate. Yes, exactly. 348 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: Could you explain that briefly, Joe Scott, I'm using the 349 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 1: word briefly with doctor angel Let's see if she can 350 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: do it. Go ahead. So they've broken they've broken her 351 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: nose to to re do her nose to make it 352 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: look different, and there's going to be bleeding in that process, 353 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: and the blood has to go somewhere, and the outward 354 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: expression of that blood is the bruising under the eye 355 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: and excuse me, under the ays. But the blood has 356 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: pooled in her nasal sinuses and adds that and the 357 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: blood will go away, the bruising will go away. But 358 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: that's how it happens. Guys cycle Listen to our friends 359 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: at Fox seven. This is Shannon Ryan. Armstrong used a passport. 360 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: Now the real identity of the person who had that passport, 361 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: we're told was somebody who closely physically resembled her. She 362 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: continued using that alias well in Costa Rica, taking a 363 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: bus going to yoga studios. This enabled authorities to establish 364 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: a paper trail and eventually close in on her. After 365 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: hiding out for more than a month, law enforcement found 366 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: fugitive Caitlin Armstrong in a hostel on Costa Rica's Santa 367 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: Teresa Beach, trying to build a new life. She was 368 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: getting really ready to establish that next part of her career. Armstrong, 369 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: a yoga instructor, wanted for murdering her romantic rival, professional 370 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: cyclists Anna Mariah Wilson, in a fit of jealous rage, 371 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: went to yoga studios on the island, signing in by 372 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: hand at at least one studio, using the same alias 373 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: she used to travel to the country. This US Marshalls 374 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: day was key. Once they developed that pattern, it really 375 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: opened up things. So to IRV Brandt, a former US 376 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: Marshal Service in the International Investigations Branch, I'm hung up 377 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: on the theory of extradition here, when you bring somebody 378 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: from wherever they are back to where they're going to 379 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: be tried, in this case in Texas, because Costa Rica 380 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: abolished the death penalty, and very often we see countries 381 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: that don't have a death penalty refuse to extradite some 382 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: money back to the US unless we waive the death penalty. 383 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: That's correct, Nancy. The extradition treaty, the US government would 384 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: have to give assurances that they wouldn't seek the death 385 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: penalty in a formal extradition. But she wasn't extradited back 386 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: to the United States. She was supported back to the 387 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: United States. The deportation is an action by the Costa 388 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 1: Rican government, not the US government. The US Marshall Service 389 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: sent people down there to scort her back. They flew 390 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: her straight into Houston's and since she was deported, that's 391 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: why she had to be booked into the Harris County jail. 392 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: Because you have to be taken into custody at the 393 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: first US port. They couldn't take her all the way 394 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: back to the charging jurisdiction like they would in the 395 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: case of a formal extradition. So with a deportation, you're 396 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: not necessarily taken to where you're going to be tried, correct, 397 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: I mean she could have went into Dallas, she could 398 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: have went into Houston, she could have went into Miami, 399 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: wherever she landed in the United States. At the first 400 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: port of entry, she would have had to have been 401 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: arrested on that charge because she wasn't being formally extradited. 402 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: The Marshal Service didn't have a surrender order on her. 403 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: To bring her back into the country, the State Department 404 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: would have issued what they call a travel document now 405 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: was only good for one day, and it was just 406 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: good enough to get her to the first port of entry. Well, 407 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm curious, why don't we always use that technique when 408 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: we're trying to extradite someone back, Because it's, like I said, 409 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: it's an action by the government of Costa Rica, not 410 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: an action by the United States. Costa Rica could have 411 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: decided that the United States had the formerly extraditeer. We 412 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: have no say in that. But since she illegally entered 413 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: the country with somebody else's passport, and she using a 414 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: fake passport, or was she using another person's passport, a 415 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: real person that existed, I don't have the details. They 416 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: said fraudulent. And when they used the term fraudulent, that 417 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: most likely means it was a valid passport. It just 418 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: wasn't a passport that belonged to her. Gotcha, guys. Take 419 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: a listen now to our cut seventy one. Our friends 420 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: at k x A and Maggie Glenn. Photos just into 421 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: our newsroom show her Harris County booking photos on the 422 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: right there on your screen. As we've reported at the 423 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: time of her arrest, she was described as having shoulder 424 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: length hair that had been dyed dark brown, with bruising 425 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: on her nose from what she says a reported surfboarding accident, 426 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: which as you can see, is much different from her 427 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: appearance just weeks ago. You can see that picture on 428 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: the left. These new photos come after she arrived in 429 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: Houston last night. Photos here show at least five guards 430 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: escorting her through the airport from Costa Rica. She'll appear 431 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: before a judge in Houston before she's transferred to Travis County, 432 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: where she faces a three and a half million dollar bond. Wow, 433 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: So Travis County is where she'll ultimately end up. And 434 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: also take a listen to our cut sixty three. Our 435 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: friends at Inside edition. This witness showed us a passport 436 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: in Caitlin Armstrong's name that he says was left behind 437 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: in a locker after her arrest. There was also this 438 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: a second passport bearing the name of her lookalike sister Christine. 439 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: And get this, a receipt for six thousand, three hundred 440 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars for cosmetic surgery she apparently got in 441 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: Costa Rica under another name. It's just a bandage on 442 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: the nose and like blood for the she had blood 443 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: in their nostrils. Well, that's kind of a giveaway, Alexis Terrest, Like, 444 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: who's gonna forget a woman learning surf yoga to further 445 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: her trade with a big bloody bandage on her nose 446 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: and blood in her nostrils. I wouldn't forget that, no, 447 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's a pretty clear sign. It looks like 448 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: she had classic surgery and not an accident from surfing. 449 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: It's especially there's a receipt, and then you know with 450 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: this man who is speaking said they also found two 451 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: passports in her locker. They found her own passport and 452 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: they found the passport of her sister. Now, while the 453 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: authorities haven't said who the passport belonged to the person 454 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: running the hostel. Has said that in her blocker was 455 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: her sister's password, so that maybe and her sister the 456 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: image that they showed of her sister's password. Her sister 457 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: has brown hair, and the new mug shots of Caitlin 458 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: showed that her nose before it was sort of a pointier, 459 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: upturned nose and now it's a much slimmer nose with 460 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: a rounded tips. And they received for our sixty three 461 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: fifty six thousand, three hundred and fifty dollars for plastic surgery. 462 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy Grace. You know this took a 463 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: lot of cunning. Matthew Mangino, she's using sister Christine, if 464 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: you are to believe the employee at the hostel her 465 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: sister Christine's passport. She also has her passport with her, 466 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: and she gets plastic surgery under yet another name. She's 467 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: trying her best to cover her tracks. I think she 468 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: did a pretty good job. Well, you know, we know 469 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: that before she took off for Costa Rica, that she 470 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: visited her sister at a campsite in upstate New York. 471 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: And you know, frankly, if her sister gave her her 472 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: passport to use. You know, she could be subject to 473 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: federal prosecution. Under Title eighteen, a person is specifically prohibited 474 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: from letting another person use their passport, So she could 475 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: be in some legal jeopardy right now as well. And 476 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: of course you know that this is a classic case 477 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: of trying to hide your identity. Obviously that she didn't 478 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: do a great job at it because of her activities 479 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: that she continued. But you know she was doing her 480 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: best to try to flee from stories and change your identity. Man, 481 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: she really did, and that's not all tachlasst our Cut 482 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: sixty five. Our friends at kp RC two investigators say 483 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: the day after Armstrong was questioned in the murder case, 484 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: she sold her car. That was May thirteenth, and received 485 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: a twelve thousand dollars check. The next day, May fourteenth, 486 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: she left the Austin Airports. On May seventeenth, Austin Police 487 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: issued a homicide arrest warrants for Armstrong. May eighteenth, investigators 488 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: spoke with sources who said Armstrong was taken to a 489 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: New Jersey International Airports. On May twenty fifth, officials obtained 490 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: an unlawful flight to avoid prosecution. Arrest warrants on Armstrong. 491 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: The US Marshall said, raising Armstrong's investigation to quote major 492 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: case status early in this investigation, which likely played a 493 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: key role in her capture after a forty three day run. 494 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: That was a key role in her capture. But she really, 495 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: despite all of her planning and all of her scheming 496 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: and all of her manipulating, she actually left a trail 497 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: a mile wide. Take a listen our cut sixty four. 498 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: Our friend Lisa Guerrero. US marshals say Armstrong was trying 499 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: to build a new life in the remote beach town. 500 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: It looks that, you know, she retreated back to her 501 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: you know, her hobby, her career being in the yoga practice. 502 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: We believe that she was trying to learn some type 503 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: of new yoga, possibly to instruct up these stairs. Here's 504 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: the yoga deck where they do yoga here. What kinds 505 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: of things did she do to her appearance. She cropped 506 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: her hair about shoulderly, and she dyed a dark brown 507 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: back to the yoga. You know, sometimes it's hard to 508 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: teach an old dog a new trick, and here she 509 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: went right back to her usual practices. What else do 510 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: we know? Take a listen now to our cut sixty 511 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: two Inside Edition, It's the end of the line for 512 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: Caitlin Armstrong. Even from behind, the fugitive yoga instructor looks 513 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: despondent after her apprehension in Costa Rica. This is the 514 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: laid back spot where Armstrong was staying when she was busted. 515 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: Don John's Surf and Yoga Lodge. It's in the town 516 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: of Santa Teresa, population just three thousand. Giselle Buncheon and 517 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: Tom Brady are often spotted nearby. Inside Edition was shown 518 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: the room Armstrong lived in. She was at that beddrets 519 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: on the bottom, the red one at the corner. Authorities 520 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: tell me Armstrong was financing her new life in Costa 521 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: Rica with twelve two hundred dollars she got from selling 522 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: her jeep before she fled the US. They say she 523 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: was staying in the inexpensive, hostile type accommodation to make 524 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: her money go further. She was just asking about how 525 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: to get around cheaper and then the police game. A 526 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: remote surftown population three thousand, Santa Teresa in Costa Rica. Now, 527 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: who would have thought should be going there on the run? 528 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: But I mean, could it be any more obvious? Don 529 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: John Surf and yoga lodge. What about it, Manino? Yeah, well, 530 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: you know the you know, she thought she had a 531 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: great plan, but she couldn't get away from the only 532 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: thing she really knew how to do, and that was yoga. 533 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: And she decided to fleet to change her identity, to 534 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: change her looks, but she couldn't change her habits, and 535 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: she couldn't change what she knew. And that was what 536 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: gave her away, you know, to you Alexis Terrez Chuck 537 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: joining us from crime online dot Com and joining us 538 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: out of La Alexis, if you're really into yoga, it 539 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: becomes not just an exercise. It's a way of life, 540 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: it really is. And she could not change that. Well, 541 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: and she also really I don't know if she speaks 542 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: Spanish or not, but there's really not there. There's not 543 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: a lot of jobs that you could probably get as 544 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: a foreigner coming into a new country. I mean, she 545 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: probably if she doesn't speak Spanish, she couldn't wait tables. 546 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: She you know, it really limits what she could do. 547 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 1: But for yoga, you can really explain it and people 548 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: can watch you and you maybe can learn, you know, 549 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: you can use the traditional words for yoga, and that 550 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: so her employment opportunities were very limited. I don't know 551 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: if she stole her jeep for twelve thousand dollars, but 552 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 1: she spent over six thousand dollars on plus six sturders. 553 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: Half her money is already gone. And then how did 554 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: she pay for these flights that she has. She probably 555 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: picked the only job that she could have done to 556 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: also fly under the radar. That's not going to be 557 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 1: working for, you know, a big corporation that's paying her 558 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 1: money and taking texts out and submitting it to the government. Well, also, 559 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: it's twelve thousand dollars that we knew of. We don't 560 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: know how much else she took with her. One thing 561 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 1: I don't want to lose sight of or Brant, which 562 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: is so easy to do in a case, is in 563 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: a case where you're on a manhunt, is lose sight 564 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: of Mariah Wilson. This case is really about her and too, 565 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: That's correct. I mean, you get caught up in all 566 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: the other things, but you got to remember first and 567 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: foremost who you're working for, and you're working for the victims, 568 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: in the victim's family, and that's always got to stay 569 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: in the front of your mind. I just keep having 570 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: Mariah Mo Wilson's image in front of me, and the 571 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: one that really sticks with me is of her kind 572 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: of looking up at the camera. She's got mud on 573 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: her face because she's been mud and gravel biking. She's 574 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: got this big smile. She's love and life. All that ended, 575 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: All that ended on an evil impulse by Caitlin Armstrong, 576 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: who tracked Mariah down like a dog and shot her 577 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:06,919 Speaker 1: dead multiple times. We wait as justice unfalls Fancy Grace 578 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: Crimes story, signing off Goodbye Friend,