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Speaker 1: one that Bill's Live is the show, Big show today,

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Speaker 1: there are some local news outlets reporting this. Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: like nine gazillion people show up to this thing. It's

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Speaker 1: we are told is great. We were told there are

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Speaker 1: Stephen A. Tasker Browns are preparing this. According to Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Talk, the Browns are preparing for the league to

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Speaker 1: suspend to Shaun Watson eight games. That's what they're preparing for.

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Speaker 1: into the next snap of a finger. He'll be at

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Speaker 1: the top of everybody's list. Hell, and that's why you're right.

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Speaker 1: He is going to pick a spot like, for instance,

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Speaker 1: if it doesn't go well in Denver, he may want

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Speaker 1: to go work with Russ Wilson. Yep, for in Nate Hackett,

428
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett could happen. Um, there's some others. Who would

429
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Speaker 1: it be Cliff Kingsbury if they crash and burn again

430
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: this year? If they go winch McDaniels goes up in

431
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: flames with the Raiders, you know that's right there, that's right.

432
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Speaker 1: What happens if the Chargers don't make the playoffs again

433
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Speaker 1: and underachieve? Yes, that's right. Is Staley in trouble? You

434
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Speaker 1: know he's just worked with Justin Herbert's right that that's

435
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: a great call. You know, could happen. Yes, he'll be

436
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Speaker 1: where I'm telling you right now. Put it on the

437
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Speaker 1: white board. He'll be working in twenty twenty three as

438
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Speaker 1: a head coach in this one. Derek Carr and el

439
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Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. Josh McDaniels, Yeah, if he goes up

440
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: in flames. If McDaniels goes up, oh, you're thinking of Miami.

441
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: I was thinking Miami. Oh sorry, Yeah, there's there's a

442
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: McDaniel and the McDaniels sitting right there. Yeah, and then Carolina. Um,

443
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a fit for him. He

444
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Speaker 1: wants a quarterback. Yeah, at his age, are you coming

445
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Speaker 1: back into this league without approving quarterback on your roster?

446
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Speaker 1: Probably not. Well, he's got that mess. He's got an

447
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: owner that's worth like twelve figures, right, got six hundred

448
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: gazillion dollars, you know, I mean it's the owner just

449
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: pulled the plug on the new practice facility that they

450
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: were gonna build after pouring in umpteen million dollars into it,

451
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: and they just said, Okay, we're not gonna do this.

452
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Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on down there, but like

453
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: his COO just left his um, well, they management company,

454
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: they well, the management company went bankrupt because the word

455
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Speaker 1: had And I don't know this. I mean, I can

456
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: barely I can't balance my own checkbook. But if these

457
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Speaker 1: guys do these projects, I say, these guys like they're

458
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Speaker 1: my buddies. So they do these projects. They just form

459
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Speaker 1: us company that's gonna do develop this project for him

460
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: it's their own company, and if the project goes belly up,

461
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: the company goes bankrupt and they don't lose any money.

462
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,239
Speaker 1: It's some sort of thing that that somebody like that

463
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Speaker 1: does who's got money and power and knows the ropes.

464
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: So the company that was going to develop the new

465
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: site for the practice facility for the Carolina Panthers that

466
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Speaker 1: was going to be in South Carolina, when the community,

467
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Speaker 1: when the community that he was moving that too Hill

468
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: did not live up to their word or the deal

469
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: went south or soured in some way shape or form. Yeah,

470
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,239
Speaker 1: the municipality wasn't that company that he formulated to do

471
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: that just went okay, we're bellyep, we're bank resolved, and

472
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: they just dissolved it. But to my understanding, they were

473
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Speaker 1: putting the the ALF ramp on the through freeways there.

474
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: Now it was brand new. They did a ton of infrastructure.

475
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Speaker 1: There was a frame building there. They got like stuff

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Speaker 1: being built, and it's like he just like gave him

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Speaker 1: walk away, guys, I'm done. Well, Yeah, because he knew

478
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: he was going to lose money with the way it

479
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: was going. Because the municipality of rock Hill, South Carolina

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Speaker 1: did not have the money to front the project, and

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Speaker 1: I guess they did not set up any kind of

482
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Speaker 1: borrowing in a timely fashion. So he's like, either have

483
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: the money or you don't, because I'm not waiting in

484
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: a year for you to come up with the funding

485
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: and put this thing on hold. So yeah, it turned

486
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Speaker 1: into a mess down there, and they're gonna still be

487
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: practicing where they always are. Yeah, nothing new. So that's that.

488
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: With that guy down there willing to do that with

489
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Speaker 1: all the stuff that he's already invested into that project,

490
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: he can afford Sean Payton with a quarterback or not fair? Fair,

491
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Speaker 1: But it's ultimately gonna be up to Peyton to say, yes,

492
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: everybody has their price, but I wonder if the quarterback

493
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: trump's the money, he doesn't have it anymore. It's always different.

494
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: Your price is always, like you know, he says, I

495
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: don't know if I'll do that for any price, or really,

496
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: how about this price? All right, we have to take

497
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: a break here because when we return, we're going to

498
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Speaker 1: be joined by former NFL and CBS sideline reporter and

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Speaker 1: new host of Good Morning Football, Jamie Erdol is going

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Speaker 1: to join us here on One Bills Live. Next. We'll

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Speaker 1: see in a couple of seconds. All right, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you,

503
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: and please to be joined now by someone you've seen

504
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Speaker 1: on NFL sidelines before, with CBS former co worker of One,

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00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, and set to make her debut as the

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Speaker 1: new host of Good Morning Football this coming Monday, July

507
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: twenty fifth. It's Jamie Urdall joining us. Jamie, congratulations, glad

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Speaker 1: you can make some time for us. Thank you, Thank

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Speaker 1: you guys so much. I am making the rounds this

510
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Speaker 1: week before I start on Monday, and I'm just cram

511
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: cram cramming, and I'm happy to talk a little bills now. Yeah, absolutely,

512
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: you know this is I'll say this. We talk about

513
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: the bills all day every day here in Buffalo, and

514
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: you know, so let's talk about something else, right, No,

515
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: And there's thirty two other teams and everybody talks about it.

516
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: But we live in the NFL world. But still this

517
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is it's a big deal. And congratulations

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Speaker 1: for getting what I mean, Thank you, well you. It

519
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 1: takes a long hard road to get their congratulations. Give

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00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: us an idea of the run up to how it

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00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: went well. I was at CBS for eight years, and

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Speaker 1: they allowed me to do a lot of incredible things.

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Speaker 1: You know. First, I was on the NFL sideline for

524
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Speaker 1: CBS and I did eight March Madness tournaments and that

525
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: I did last four on the SEC on CBS. So

526
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: which to me, now that I'm looking at the thirty

527
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,479
Speaker 1: two rosters again, you realize every team is riddled with

528
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: guys from the SEC. So that has been very helpful.

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Speaker 1: But I just felt like my agent is the same

530
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Speaker 1: agent to Kay Adams who left the show, who did

531
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Speaker 1: an incredible job in her six years on the show

532
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: since its inception, And he just came to me and said,

533
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Speaker 1: would this be something you were interested in? You know,

534
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Speaker 1: it would require a move to the East Coast, and

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00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: for a lot of personal reasons, it was a really

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Speaker 1: good fit for me and my family. And it just

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Speaker 1: I really really appreciated the challenge that comes with talking

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00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: about the NFL for three hours a day and waking

539
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: up at four at thirty am. Right, yeah, but it's

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00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: but I would imagine from a family perspective, this has

541
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: got to be less travel than what you had been

542
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Speaker 1: doing before, and that's got to be good when you

543
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: got young ones at home, right. Yeah, I told my

544
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: three year old, the suitcase is going to go away.

545
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: You know, I don't get to give her her waffles

546
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Speaker 1: in the morning, but I get to put her to

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00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: bed every night. And that's a lot better than what

548
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: I've been doing the last couple of years. And I

549
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: also have a one year old who doesn't quite know

550
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: what it meant that I was leaving every weekend. But

551
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: they definitely hit that aage right around two two and

552
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: a half. They start to see that you're gone and

553
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: what the suitcase means. And it really has been. It's

554
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: going to be an incredible change for my family. Yeah,

555
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: I get it too. And all the years I was

556
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Speaker 1: with CBS doing that, the travel is not glamorous. I mean,

557
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: it is not the fun part of the job. And

558
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: it's something you got against, Steve. You know the NFL cities.

559
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: People would ask me what I what I missed about

560
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: the NFL, And frankly, one of the things that was

561
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: so odd that just the ability to get to some

562
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: of the NFL cities, get into the towns in the

563
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: SEC let me tell you those are some stories. Starkfille

564
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: stuff to get to. Yeah, start Fils, tough to get to. Yeah,

565
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: so it's Clemson, so you know there's some Yeah, great cities,

566
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: great towns, tremendous colleges, but once you're there, Yeah, the Knoxville.

567
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: Knoxville's not across the street, you know, playing strains and

568
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: all the great. So, yeah, congratulation for you for being

569
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Speaker 1: able to just commute in a normal way, although you

570
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: know it's every day instead of just every weekend. But

571
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Speaker 1: that's awesome. So we're gonna talk. We're gonna turn it over.

572
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: What do you what can you tell us that about

573
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: the Bills? I know that everybody the expectations are really high.

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00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: We had a little staff meeting this morning here in Buffalo,

575
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: and Sean McDermott said they acknowledged it. Sean McDermott, Brandon Bean.

576
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Speaker 1: But you know what, it's not unfamiliar territory at this

577
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: point point for Josh Allen, Steph Diggs and the rest

578
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: of this crew. They're used to these expectations. Now after

579
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Speaker 1: a couple of years. Well, let me say this, if

580
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: I know nothing else about football, I know that consistency

581
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: is king, and I think the Bill is more than

582
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Speaker 1: anybody else has been able to between a two season

583
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: span here, not only remained consistent in a team that

584
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: was very successful last year, which is great in every

585
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: position virtually. But then I'm sorry to add von Miller

586
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: to a defense that already was doing all right. I mean,

587
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: obviously you needed some help here and there. But what

588
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: an incredible character to add to a locker room and

589
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: a team, A man who knows how to win and

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00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: who is making it his life goal to win a

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Speaker 1: third Super Bowl with the third team. I find that

592
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: trajectory for himself, that he has laid out an incredible

593
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: challenge for this team in this organization. And then someone

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Speaker 1: who I was able to watch firsthand for this Bill's

595
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: defense in kaye Elam. Just an excellent selection I think

596
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: for the secondary. Yeah, because you mentioned SEC guys, and

597
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: there are there two of their first draft choices are

598
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: right out of the SEC. And I know people are

599
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: high on kaye Elam, but James Cook is getting an

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00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: awful lot of buzz you not just by the media

601
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: at large, who really hasn't had a full opportunity at

602
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: least at the NFL L level to set eyes on him.

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00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 1: But it's his own veteran teammates here through the spring, Jamie,

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00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: that are already saying, this kid's gonna help us right away.

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Speaker 1: What can you tell us about maybe the exposure you've

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00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: had to James Cook on the field and what you

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Speaker 1: think he could bring to this offense. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: I could say this about more than half of the teams,

609
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: and I was around in the sec that those coaches

610
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: run those programs like they want to be the thirty

611
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Speaker 1: third team in the NFL. So a lot of these

612
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: young men come out of these teams and programs and

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00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: universities having prepared to play in the NFL. Okay, So

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00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: if James Cooke was already doing that at Georgia, couple

615
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: that with the fact that his brother is handling him

616
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: like quite the pro already in the NFL, and just

617
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: the fact that keeping it in the family, you can't

618
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: only expect you know, some of these guys come and

619
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: their eyes are wide open and they can't handle the

620
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: playbook or the speed or the expectation professionally. I think

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Speaker 1: things have been set in stone for this young man

622
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: from an early age that he knew just how he

623
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: wanted to handle himself when he arrived wherever that was

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Speaker 1: going to be. From my personal conversations with him, he

625
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: is a very bright young man. He's a calm presence.

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00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: He is a steady force in the locker room and

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00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: on the field. It was a joy to cover him

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Speaker 1: at Georgia, and I'm not surprised at all the feedback

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Speaker 1: that he has already received from his Bill's teammates. What's

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Speaker 1: the biggest adjustment you're going to have to make going

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Speaker 1: from the SEC to the pros. I know there's there's

632
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 1: thirty two teams instead of just you know, a dozen

633
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: or two whatever they're others sixteen I guess, But yeah,

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Speaker 1: what's the biggest adjustment for you doing the new job

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Speaker 1: as opposed to the old job having and voicing and

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Speaker 1: depending my opinion, I would say, you know, with on

637
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Speaker 1: the sideline, especially working for CBS, your job was so

638
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: much to promote the broadcast, support the game as the

639
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: game unfolded, whatever direction that may take you. I could

640
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: have my stories ready, but if the game took a turn,

641
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: you know you have to follow that storyline as the

642
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: game unfolds. This show is so different. Yes, it covers

643
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: the entire league, but you know, the job is to

644
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: be able to share your thoughts jarem in a composed,

645
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: creative fashion, but also be able to back it up

646
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: a little bit logically with how things are unfolding for

647
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,479
Speaker 1: all the teams. So it's a skill that I think

648
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: I have. I'm excited to flex that muscle a little

649
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: bit creatively, but it's certainly something I have not had

650
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: to tap into for a while, so that will be

651
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: a big adjustment. I know that people that watch the

652
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: show are always curious, what's the level of dry run

653
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: prep that you'll be doing with your three new coworkers.

654
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: Have you guys had? How many runthroughs have you guys had?

655
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: If any one? Yeah, yeah, I frankly, I think it's

656
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: gonna be awesome to just grow together in front of

657
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: everybody on live television. Um, I don't know any other

658
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: way that I think I'd want it to be done,

659
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: because coming from and Steve can speak to this, just

660
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: live television, live sports programming, Like sometimes things happen and

661
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: you just I don't do well when I refer as

662
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: I get nervous that I'm saying the same thing too

663
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: many times, like just let's go, let's have this conversation,

664
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: put the camera on and we can have fun and

665
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: and you know, wake everybody up with a football conversation

666
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: every day. But yeah, we had one secret show. It

667
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: was awesome. You know, we got into it on a

668
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: couple different topics. And I will say, when I was

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Speaker 1: asked which excites me more on this secret show, the

670
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: bills are the chiefs. I picked the bills. There you go,

671
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: all right, secret that's a very that's a very organic

672
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: way to do it, and sometimes that is the best way. Um,

673
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: But you're you know, I don't have to tell you this,

674
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: but in your role, you really have to kind of

675
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: steer the ship with that show. And let's not make

676
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: any bones about this. You got some characters there. I mean,

677
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: Kyle Brandt's a good friend of ours, and you got

678
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: to keep that guy in line. It's no different than

679
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of LSU Alabama and Primetime

680
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to keep Joe Burrow from walking away

681
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: from me, and Edozeron's over here with this cop and

682
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get everybody to all together the same thing.

683
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: It's a good point. It's it's you're you're trying to

684
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Speaker 1: have all the pieces aligned to make perfect television all

685
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: at one time. Feels like the same. Yeah, So when

686
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: you get when you get rolling with this. You're gonna

687
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: start on Mondays, Jamie Urdle, She's gonna host Good Morning

688
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: Football and the NFL Network. It's a show that Brownie

689
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: and we told Jamie this before we came on, but

690
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: we watched that show religiously. We've got two big screens

691
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: in our offices. They're on all the time and we

692
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: listen and see what the topics. It is like a

693
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: prep show, right, it's it's a prep of a prep show.

694
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Speaker 1: And I have to appreciate the fact that you've alluded

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Speaker 1: to it. We start at one pm, our show kicks off.

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Speaker 1: You you guys start like like, I don't even I

697
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: haven't even turned over there at seven, but they're there

698
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: there at seven. But you really you got to get

699
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Speaker 1: in there a couple hours early. So that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for the four thirty? She's got young kids,

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00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: she's up early anyway. Yeah, four thirty, Like I think,

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Speaker 1: I think five years ago that would have been a stretch.

703
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Speaker 1: But I have a three year old and a one

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Speaker 1: year old, and um, you know, I've been practicing waking

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Speaker 1: up earlier this week and my three year old came

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Speaker 1: in my room the other night at four forty five morning,

707
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: whatever time day you want to call that, and she

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Speaker 1: asked me for something or drink water. I gave it

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Speaker 1: to her, and I was like, well, might as well

710
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Speaker 1: stay awake, and this would be the start of my

711
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: day anyway. So here we go rock and roll. Um.

712
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, four forty five is the new alarm clock time,

713
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: and five thirty call meeting for the show and then

714
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: we're off and rolling at seven am. Well that's gonna

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00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: be awesome. Um. I know you said, you know, in

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Speaker 1: the in the Chiefs Bill game, you picked Bills. Do

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Speaker 1: you think that the Bills are kind of your the

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Speaker 1: class of the AFC in your mind? I mean it

719
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: is a loaded conference, Jamie. We got even more quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in this conference than they did last year. Russell Wilson

721
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: is on this side of the conference, Ledger now among others.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's stacked. Well, I'm glad you said

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Speaker 1: the class of the AFC because I just left Minnesota

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Speaker 1: and I pretty much called the Bikings the class of

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Speaker 1: the NFC. So I didn't want to have to backtrack. Already,

726
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: like two days after I had made that proclamation before

727
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Speaker 1: I left home. But you know, you mentioned Russell Wilson,

728
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: But I just I don't care how good he is,

729
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: which he is really good. It's a new system, it's

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Speaker 1: a new team, it's a new city organization. Like this

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Speaker 1: is what I mean about the consistency with the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Like I think there's something to be said right out

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Speaker 1: of the gate for a team that hasn't changed a

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Speaker 1: lot and what they were able to accomplish last year.

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Speaker 1: You know, look at what the Chiefs, the change the

736
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Speaker 1: Chiefs went through in their wide receiver room. I mean,

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00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: you can tell me that they're offensively. Teams are bolster

738
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: propia across the a FC, but no one has rocked

739
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: their boat as little as the Bills did in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: And I think that will speak volumes. Jamie, thanks as

741
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: good luck to you. We'll talk to you probably down

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Speaker 1: the road. Good luck, have a great season. We can't

743
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: wait to see you on Monday on Good Morning Football.

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00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: Thank you, guys, I appreciate it all right, good to

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00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: have you with us. Good luck. That's Jamie art All,

746
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: the new host of Good Morning Football, as she will

747
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: be in the host chair steer in that ship with

748
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Speaker 1: Kyle Brand, Peter Schreeger and probably another person to be named,

749
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: because ever since Nate Burlison left, they haven't I filled

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Speaker 1: his role. They're doing it now. They'll rotate people in.

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00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: I think, thank you. I think it helps keep it fresh.

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00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: For that's not a bad though. Not Nate Burlison was

753
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: fresh every day, right, I mean he's great and that's

754
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: why that show. Let me tell you that that show

755
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: kills it. They're they're the one of the best shows

756
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: on television and the people on it or the reasons

757
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: why in the chemistry between them. So Jamie's you can

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00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: tell there. She's she's great to work with, she's she's

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00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: got some great broadcasting chops and it's going to show

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00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: through on that show. But um, I think they probably

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00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: won't replace Yeah, maybe not, because it's been almost a

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00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: year now, right, I mean Kay Adams left at a

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00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: later date than they did and just gone. They've already

764
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: they've already got a replacement and Jay got to have

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00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: somebody there constantly to stir it, you know, because that's

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00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: a lot of extra work for the producers to find

767
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: somebody to fill dates and times and all that stuff.

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00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: I don't be interesting to see what they decide to

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Speaker 1: guest host. I don't know if it's that biggest a

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00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: rotational person, if you will, that's right, all right. We

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Speaker 1: got to take a break here. When we return, perhaps

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Speaker 1: the worst attempt at avoiding a running bull that we

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Speaker 1: have ever seen in our lives. You know those bull

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00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: runnings in Pamplona, Spain. This one's got it beat by

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Speaker 1: a mile. Steve and I will dissect the video next

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Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Health It's Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. All right, welcome back here to One Bill's Live.

778
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: We had to bring this to everybody's attention every so

779
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: we'll do our best for our radio listening audience to

780
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: describe this. Every so often, something we're on, we're on

781
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: social media because things happened so in real time on Twitter,

782
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: and this something crosses our desk or our timeline that

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00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: catches both of our eyes like, oh my gosh. And

784
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Speaker 1: there are times we feel we need to bring it

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Speaker 1: to your attention. It's it's our service, it's our effort

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Speaker 1: of service to you the listener and viewing audience. So

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Speaker 1: we um and we have to credit Ross Tucker for

788
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: this because he found it online. Our good friend Ross Tucker.

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Speaker 1: Former Bills Lineman said he couldn't stop watching this. And

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Speaker 1: what this is is a gentleman who appears to be

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00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 1: making an attempt to dodge a charging bull. It looks

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Speaker 1: as though because it's a tight shot, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: see everything that's going on, but this guy is trying

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Speaker 1: to avoid a couple of bulls that have been that

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Speaker 1: have been released from a pen. He puts his hands

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Speaker 1: over his head to say, here comes the bulls. He

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00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: gets down in a crouch like he's about to jump

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Speaker 1: or elude the bull, and then proceeds to do absolutely

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Speaker 1: nothing to avoid the bull in full charge. This is

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00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: where the bull lowers the boom on this guy, buries

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00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 1: his head right in the center of this guy's stern

802
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: him and drives him literally into next week. I don't

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00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: know where this man landed. I don't know if he's

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Speaker 1: landed yet. Here's the thing. This bull comes charging through.

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00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: It's not that big and all of a sudden, I'm

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Speaker 1: a I'm a guy from from a farming community, ranching community.

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00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: I've seen big This is not even a big one bull.

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00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: When he goes through the guy, it doesn't even it's

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00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: not even a bug on his windshield. Man. That guy

810
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: goes he was wiped off the screen of viewing it

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Speaker 1: in an instant. It's like a cartoon. And this guy,

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00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: this guy's like he's got his hands up in the

813
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: air at the verb he's like, all right, I got this.

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00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: Here we go. And he like, like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what he was thinking. Here was he saying, Okay, I'm

816
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: gonna jump over him. I mean, you have to have

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00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: a lot of confidence in the athletic ability to jump

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00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: this thing at least go left or right. Quintessentially, Brandie.

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Speaker 1: Let me put it this way. This guy he had

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00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: a plan until he got hit in the vase. To

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Speaker 1: Mike Tyson, that's right now. I gotta say this, The

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Speaker 1: biggest surprise to me about all of this was not

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Speaker 1: that he got drilled. The biggest surprise to me is

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Speaker 1: that his shoes stayed on right. This guy got hit

825
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 1: so hard. I can't believe his sneakers stayed on his feet.

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Speaker 1: This guy that he was he was listen, I'm I'm

827
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: laughing because it's hilarious. This guy was injured after this.

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00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: There is no two ways about. Somehow, some way that

829
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Speaker 1: guy is at the emergency room because it that hit it.

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00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: Oh baby, he got waxed. I mean it literally is

831
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: like a cartoon. This guy wraps around this bull's head

832
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: with his entire body. Man, it is you gotta go,

833
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: You gotta go see if you can uh catch check

834
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: this out. Just go to Ross Tucker's Twitter hand yeah,

835
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: or you might have it on ours now at one

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00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: Bill's Live what Jay might have tweeted it on ours

837
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: or retweeted it on our timeline too. But man, old man,

838
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: this is after he gets hit. Yeah, there's this big

839
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: railing up that like he's not right. He's in the

840
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: street or something like they're they got these It must

841
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: be a rodeo in town or something. You can this

842
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: is the time of here for that, right, right, So

843
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: this guy, you know, they're running these animals through the

844
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: street to get him somewhere else, maybe in a parade

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Speaker 1: or something. But man, oh man, this this thing gat

846
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: I mean, this bull gallops through this guy. The only

847
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: thing I can think as to why he did nothing

848
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: It looked like he was going to try to sidestep

849
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: the bull by moving to his right the bulls left.

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00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: Problem is the first bull was being trailed by a

851
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: second bull who was to his right. So we must

852
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: have thought, oh, I'm gonna step to the right. Oh

853
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: there's another bull there. And by the time he decided

854
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: I maybe should go left, it's too late. He's already airborne.

855
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: This is the opposite of a deer in the headlights.

856
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: This is this is human in this is the headlights.

857
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: It's like it's unreal. And then I hope the guy's okay.

858
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: He's lucky he wasn't gored. If you think about it,

859
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: that he might have been. If now this bull, like

860
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: I said, it's a young one, it's a young animal.

861
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: It's still you know, still probably four hundred pounds at least,

862
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: and I mean he's got everything, momentum and leverage. And

863
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: this guy has no chance. He is he was as

864
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: good as branded on that way. Oh my gosh. That

865
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: is just it's just, you know what, no matter how

866
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 1: our day goes with all these people in our lobby

867
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: shooting his commercial, our day is going better than that. Guys,

868
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: would you call him? What would be your label for him?

869
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: Would your label be overconfident, stupid or I'm trying to

870
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: think of a third descriptive word that could apply to

871
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: this overconfident, stupid or arrogant? Would arrogant fitt I don't

872
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: know that it would ignorance overconfidence in his physical abilities. Yeah,

873
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: stupid or ignorant to the power and strength of it.

874
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: I think there's there's the thing. The mixture of arrogance

875
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 1: and ignorance is an incredibly dangerous combination apparently, and then

876
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: you mix that in with a lack of intelligence and

877
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: get what you've got an explosive material, which is what

878
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: happened to that guy. I hope he's okay, but I

879
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: couldn't stop black. You can't stop watching it. It's it's compelling.

880
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: It's compelling television. You can put that on a loop

881
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 1: and people would watch an hour of that every day.

882
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it is because you know what, it

883
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: makes you feel like, you know what. I'm not that stupid,

884
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: of course. Our producer Jay Harris Captain Punn, Oh my god,

885
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: he's already tweeted it on the one Bill's Live handle says,

886
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: what an utter failure. Oh my gosh, awful. That's great though,

887
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: good stuff. We have to take a break here because

888
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 1: when we come back for the second hour of the show,

889
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: we will be joined by contributor to ESPN Sports Center,

890
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: host of The Bill Barnwell Show podcast, and an ESPN

891
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: senior writer, Bill Barnwell, will be joining us. He's got

892
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: a focus on the MVP cases for thirteen unique players.

893
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: We'll catch up with him on that when we return

894
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 1: here on One Bills Live presented by Kalida Elfit's Buffalo

895
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. At a Steve Tasker who has put all

896
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: over the fields kind of unique. He was kind of

897
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Speaker 1: a dual role player for you, Stave of a lily,

898
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Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the stratiere of normalcy.

899
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: All right, welcome to our number two Chris Brown. Steve

900
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: Tasker with you here on a Wednesday, talking Bill's football,

901
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: of course, as is required on this show, and we'll

902
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: be getting into a little bit of an MVP dicussion

903
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: here shortly with one Bill Barnwell, ESPN Senior writer. As

904
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: we make contact with him shortly. He recently Steve compared

905
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: past NFL MVP seasons two players who could have that

906
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: type of season this year. He also was making the

907
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: case from some unique NFL MVP candidates. So I'm curious,

908
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: because I am gonna, you know, ask him how many

909
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: non quarterbacks did he even consider, if any, because we

910
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: know this is a category that has been dominated by quarterbacks.

911
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: The last non quarterback to when MVP was Adrian Peterson

912
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: when he ran for over two thousand yards with the Vikings.

913
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: I want to say it was twenty twelve, So I

914
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: mean it's amazing, Steve. Since two thousand, there have been

915
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: twenty well since two thousand, there have been let me see,

916
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: non quarterbacks since two thousand one two three four players

917
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: since two thousand have one MVP that did not play quarterback.

918
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: They're all running backs, right, Marshall Falk think about that, John,

919
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: Alexander Ladanian, Tomlinson. These guys are already in the Adrian Lts,

920
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: already in the Hall of Fame, right, I mean that's

921
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 1: how old as far's you gotta you know? Yeah, some

922
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: of these guys, so, I don't know, there's it's a

923
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: quarterback award. Essentially, they should just rename it NFL Quarterback

924
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: VPQB because I mean, short of a running back running

925
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: for like twenty two hundred yards, well ry Kin kind

926
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: of season, Derrick Henry could you know, right, that would

927
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: be a guy that would come to mind. Sure, I

928
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: don't you know somebody like Nick Chubb if they do that,

929
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: or you know a running back like that, or say

930
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: Quon if they catch lightning a bottle. You know who

931
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: else would be like an Aaron Donald, you know that

932
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: would be like one of the only defensive players, right,

933
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: So that could do it. Because it's the here's the thing.

934
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: We talk about it all the time, and I say

935
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: it all the time. The league is legislated in such

936
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: a way now as to get eyeballs on it. It's

937
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: make it fun to watch, which means the balls in

938
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: the air all the time, So guys catching it and

939
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: throwing it are in the spotlight. Mostly the guys throwing it,

940
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: so you know, the guy's protecting the quarterback, the guys

941
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: rushing the quarterback. You know, it's hard for them to

942
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: get in the picture. Yeah, it's hard. There has been

943
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: only two defensive players to ever win MVP. I know

944
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: you can name one of them, Lawrence Taylor. Lawrence Taylor

945
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty six with the Giants, and I will

946
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 1: say Reggie White. The other one is Alan Page. Oh,

947
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: good for him, defensive alignment for the Vikings. Let's all right,

948
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: let's bring our guy on. Let's get a more intelligent

949
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,959
Speaker 1: part of the conversation under way than the one we're

950
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: having and welcome in ESPN senior writer Bill Barnwell to

951
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: the conversation. Bill, thanks for joining us, appreciate the time.

952
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: As always wanted to dive into your very interesting MVP

953
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: case for thirteen unique players that you put together for

954
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: ESPN dot com. What was the genesis of deciding to

955
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: undertake that project the man? I think, obviously not a

956
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 1: lot happening in the NFL during the you know, during

957
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: the summer. Here we're getting up to training camp, So

958
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: thinking about, okayle, how can we approach things differently and

959
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: how can we sort of get to how weird the

960
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: NFL is, how unexpected things can be in the NFL.

961
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about Kurt Warner and just how

962
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: unlikely if an MVP he was before he got his opportunity.

963
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 1: And then I thought, okay, well, is there anybody out

964
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: there who would be close to Kurt Warner? And I

965
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: lanced on Brett Rippon, who's the third stringer for the Broncos,

966
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: and how unlikely that would be that let me do

967
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: a bunch of other qualified candidates where I just thought, okay, well,

968
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: Mark Moseley, the kicker for Washington thirty for forty years,

969
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: ago on an MVP, so Justin Tucker could do it,

970
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: and then all these other sort of archetypes and what

971
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: they might look like if someone like that won the

972
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: MVP here in twenty twenty two and you get down

973
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: the listen and it really is and I'd love And

974
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: we were just talking about the fact that it's a

975
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: quarterback award and when it's not a quarterback, it's a

976
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: running back. How difficult it is for anybody else to

977
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: get in the conversation. What are your thoughts about, you know,

978
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: the you know, the fact that it's become the Most

979
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: Valuable Quarterback awarded rather than the MVP. Yeah, it seems

980
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: less fun, right, you know, Not that quarterbacks don't is

981
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: because obviously I think most people would say quarterback is

982
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: the most important position in the game. But it's always

983
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: fun to see players from other positions pop up and

984
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: have that sort of season where they would win the

985
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: award and they think. The tough part for me now is,

986
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 1: you know, I look at some of the seasons we've

987
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: seen in years past, like JJ Watt when j. J.

988
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: Watt was at his best and Aaron Donald's peak season.

989
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: When it comes to edge rushers, thinking about even someone

990
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: like Cooper Cup a year ago, where Cooper Cup was

991
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: just to get three hundred more receiving yards I think

992
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: than anybody else in football. He was that much more

993
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: dominant than anybody else in the NFL. And those guys

994
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: didn't really come close to winning the MVP awards, and

995
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: they are sort of dominant career season. So to me,

996
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what you guys think. I'd

997
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: love to hear what you guys think, actually, but in

998
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: terms of just what it would take for one of

999
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 1: these guys who don't play quarterback to win the award,

1000
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: it seems like the bar is just so incredibly high,

1001
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: Like you have to set a record just to even

1002
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: have a shot right at possibly competing front people. Yeah,

1003
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna say. You'd have to shatter

1004
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: the record of your position to have a chance at it. Yeah,

1005
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: you're talking about like a twenty five sack season. You're

1006
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: talking about plus plus a championship. You go all the

1007
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: way back to Ojen seventy three. I mean he had

1008
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: to run for two thousand yards to win MVP, you

1009
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like in a fourteen Calvin Johnson,

1010
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson did not win it when he had nineteen

1011
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty six yards. No, I don't think he did,

1012
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: so it's yeah. So speaking of big numbers, Bill, I

1013
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: know on your list you compared Justin Herbert to Brett

1014
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: Farve when Farve kind of had that monster breakout year

1015
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: in ninety five. Can we call anything that Justin Herbert

1016
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: puts up this year a monster breakout year. He's one

1017
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: of only two guys that threw for five thousand yards

1018
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: last year and the other guy with Tom Brady. It's fair, right,

1019
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: you know. I was I was thinking about making the

1020
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen comparison there as well, as you know, to

1021
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: far sort of having that you know, breakout season, and

1022
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: I thought, well, Josh Allen's already had a breakout season.

1023
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: It's kind of insulting to Josh Allen to say, oh,

1024
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: we'd have this, you know year he sort of makes

1025
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: his Marcus one of the best quarterbacks in football. That's

1026
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: already happened for Josh Allen to me, So I think

1027
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: that's totally fair. You know. I think for me, when

1028
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: you think about these awards, it is a little more

1029
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: than just the numbers. I think it like, like, like

1030
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: you guys mentioned, you know, it's not just twenty five sacks.

1031
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: Twenty five sacks plus a championship. To me, I think

1032
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: you look at history, to win one of these awards,

1033
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: you have to win the division or you have to

1034
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: carry your team single handedly to a postseason birth the

1035
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: way that Adrian Peterson did when he had Christian Ponder

1036
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: as his quarterback a decade ago. You know, I think

1037
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,439
Speaker 1: for Justin Herbert, you know, I think it would take

1038
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: something more than just the numbers. I think it would

1039
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: be the numbers and a division title in the very

1040
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: competitive AFC West for for him to kind of get

1041
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: that nod there. So, you know, I know that we

1042
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: don't it shouldn't really be a team award. It should

1043
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: be an individual award, But I do think that the

1044
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: wins and sort of the division title come into play

1045
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: there for any of the candidates here. Yeah, I was

1046
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: going to ask that as well. How good does the

1047
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: team have to be to have, like, say, for instance,

1048
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: the best The Heisman Trophy usually a lot of times

1049
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: goes to the best player on the best team because

1050
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: he gets most of the attention and he's most of

1051
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: the reason they're winning the games. He wins a national

1052
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: title that wins the Heisman Trophy in the NFL, no question,

1053
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: A team that wins four games does not have a

1054
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: chance of having an MVP candidate. How bad, I guess

1055
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: the question is how bad can an NFL team be

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00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: and still have the MVP. I think you have to

1057
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: be a wild card at the very minimum, and I

1058
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: think you have to be a good wild card, like

1059
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: an eleven or twelve win wild card team. I don't

1060
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: think you can be nine and eight, you know, and

1061
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: squeak out your division the last week of the season

1062
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: and win MVP. It just don't think it's like look

1063
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: at the as you guys, right, I mean Aaron Rodgers

1064
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: and the Packers thirteen and four last year, thirteen and

1065
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: three the year before, Lamar Jackson's Ravens fourteen and two,

1066
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes's Chiefs in twenty eighteen. I believe they were

1067
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: thirteen and three twelve and four that year. So, I mean,

1068
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, the bar is extremely high for recent winners.

1069
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: You're looking at division title twelve plus wins in the

1070
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: sixteen game out are probably thirteen now, and really, you know,

1071
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: I think you have to leave no doubt. I think

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01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: it's would it boils down to I think you have

1073
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: to be so far ahead of the competition in your

1074
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: division that it has to be worth your while, that

1075
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: has to really stand out a So this is, you know,

1076
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,919
Speaker 1: maybe the best team in football. So I think it's

1077
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: not too dissimilar from what we see for the highestan

1078
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: Trophy balloting. Like you said, I know Bill that you

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01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: listed Matt Ryan in your list of thirteen unique candidates

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01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: for MVP. But if I if I put this to you,

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01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: who do you think on the Colts has a better

1082
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,959
Speaker 1: chance at MVP, Matt Ryan or Jonathan Taylor? What would

1083
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: your answer be? I'd probably say Jonathan Taylor. I think

1084
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: the idea of Jonathan Taylor doing something special at running

1085
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: back it's more likely to meet than Matt Ryan having

1086
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: a sort of, you know, just just stratospheric passing season

1087
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: where you can bind just the wins with also the

1088
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: numbers you would need to be a a MVP candidate.

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01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: So you need both obviously. But with Jonathan Taylor, I

1090
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: mean having the extra game helps. He's getting the workload

1091
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: that really no other back in football outside that Derek

1092
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: Henry is getting right now. And I think with the

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01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: seventeen game game season, you have a chance of setting

1094
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: the single season rushing record, and I think for me,

1095
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: you have to set that record to have a shot

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01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: at winning MVP in the NFL. And I think Jonathan Taylor.

1097
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: If you pick one guide's at the rushing record this year,

1098
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: I think most people would pick Jonathan Taylor to do it.

1099
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: So I think he's a very viable candidate, as much

1100
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: as any running back has been in the last few years.

1101
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: It's interesting because one of the one of the guys

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01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: on your list is is Brett Rippon, quarterback from the

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01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: Denver Brons. Yeah, and it's you're right, it's I know

1104
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner. I've worked with him and the story that

1105
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: about his life American underdog, it really is. He came

1106
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: from absolutely nowhere, but it took somebody getting hurt for

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01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: that to happen. Or the Denver Broncos with a brand

1108
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: new I mean you're talking this is I think Brett

1109
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: Rippon maybe a moon shot. Uh yeah, but I mean

1110
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: you're talking about sixth things. You know, it's like the

1111
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: parlay almost bad. Yeah, First, Russell Wilson has to stink,

1112
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: then they'd get hurt. He has to get hurt. Then

1113
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: your defense has to be absolutely unbelievable to get him

1114
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: a start, and Nathaniel Hackett, a first time head coach,

1115
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: has to catch lightning in a bottle with everything else

1116
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: that's going on a lot of planets, that's a lot

1117
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: of Yeah, it's a lot of things that have to align.

1118
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: But but nevertheless, I mean, that's what this list is

1119
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: all about. Give us your synopsis of Brett Rippon, Uh,

1120
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: backup right now, backup quarterback for the Denver Broncos being

1121
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: a shot at the env What are the odds on that?

1122
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: Give me a give me an odds first? Yeah, yeah,

1123
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: I think you're looking at probably a nice house for

1124
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: about ten dollars if you're putting that down in Vegas.

1125
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think it's truly just a

1126
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: reflection on how unlikely it was that Kurt and Warner

1127
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: won this award. I mean, think about where he was

1128
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: when all this happened. The Ramp not been a good team.

1129
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: The year before, they were not a good offense. The

1130
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 1: year before they were like twenty fourth and scoring offense.

1131
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: I believe we're twenty second and scoring offense. Dictormial as

1132
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: their coach, certainly more experienced than Nathaniel Hackett. But you know,

1133
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: the team had not been good the year before, the

1134
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: offensive made mediocre, had some weapons at Marshall Falk had

1135
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: just been traded there, hadn't really emerged, got traded from

1136
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: the Colts to Claret. Space for entering James was not

1137
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: necessarily seen as like, oh, he's going to be an MVP.

1138
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,439
Speaker 1: Canstant by any means at running Victory Holt first round

1139
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: picked there, Isaac Bruce vetteran receiver, very good, but you know,

1140
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: I think they would have been a promising team. But

1141
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: did they have the quarterback? And then Trent Green trace

1142
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: his ACL in training camp. Frankly Kurt Warner twenty seven

1143
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: year old backup at the time, had I think eleven

1144
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: career pass at times had played in the NFL Europe,

1145
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: you would have figured Joe Jermaine, who was their fourth

1146
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: round pick at the time, he would have been the

1147
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: starter ahead of Kurt Warner. But Kurt Warner gets the

1148
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: chance and then und nowhere he's the MVP of the NFL.

1149
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: So for Brett Rippon, you know, I'm thinking, okay, well,

1150
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: who's a guy in his twenties, doesn't have much experience,

1151
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent on it that could have a good

1152
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: offense on paper, but doesn't necessarily have that track record

1153
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: of success. And who has a quarterback standing in his way?

1154
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: Who would be the primary guy were if that guy

1155
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: got hurt, Rippon would have a viable chance at the

1156
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: starting job. And I think he wouldn't be your Fussell

1157
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: Wilson did get hurt, which obviously we're not rooting for.

1158
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: It'd be Josh Johnson or Brett Rippon. And I think,

1159
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: you know, again, do I think Burt Prinston we're in

1160
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: the MVP? Absolutely not. But it's a reminder of just

1161
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: how crazy the Kurt Warner story was. That Brett Rippon,

1162
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, probably has a better chance

1163
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: heading into twenty two than Kurt Warner did heading in

1164
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: to his MP pieces. Speaking of crazy quarterback situations, there's

1165
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: one in Carolina now. And you touched on this in

1166
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: a recent piece of Yours Winners and Losers of the

1167
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 1: Carolina Cleveland Deal. We kind of like announced it when

1168
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: it happened, talked about it a little bit, and then

1169
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: let it lie. You know, you obviously took a deeper

1170
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: dive into this. Do you see any way short of

1171
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield imploding that that Sam Darnald can can viably

1172
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: compete for the starting job, not only in terms of

1173
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: the performance on the field, which obviously is going to

1174
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: count the most through training camp in the preseason, but

1175
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: what Carolina decided to do to augment their quarterback situation

1176
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: by acquiring Mayfield, You know, I do, and I'll tell

1177
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: you why. You know, I look at what did the

1178
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: Panthers do in terms of sending assets out to get

1179
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: with these guys. When you think about Sam Darnold, they

1180
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: went out of their way and they traded for him

1181
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: early in the offseason, sent a couple picks in pluting

1182
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: a second rounder to get Sam Donald and picked up

1183
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: his fifth year options and made a financial commitment. Now granted,

1184
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: last year not all that great I think for being fair,

1185
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, solid early in the season. As the year

1186
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: went on, Sam Darnold struggled. We kind of saw the

1187
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: same guy we saw with the Gems, So obviously they

1188
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: soured on him to some extent. But it wasn't as

1189
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: if the Panthers went out the beginning of the off

1190
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: season when Baker Mayfield requested a trade and the first

1191
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: chance they got they went and traded for Baker Mayfield's

1192
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: whole salary. They went and made him a priority. None

1193
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: of that happened. They took Matt Corral in the draft

1194
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: of the trading up for him, and then they waited.

1195
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: They waited for Baker to take a pay cut, They

1196
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 1: waited for the Browns to assume more of his salary.

1197
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: They waited until the price was right. And they're not

1198
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 1: giving up very much a conditional pick. And I think

1199
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: they're picking up about five million dollars on Baker Mayfield's contracts.

1200
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: So to me, that tells you releast that seems it's

1201
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: just the Panthers saint. Baker Mayfield is a useful player,

1202
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: but not necessarily a guy who they had to go

1203
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 1: out and acquire the first chance they got, which you know,

1204
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: for a quarterback, I think if you think he's really

1205
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: the guy, and you're gonna give him the chance from

1206
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: day one, regardless of what happens elsewhere in camp, you're

1207
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: going to go get him the first chance you get

1208
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: because you're afraid he's going to go somewhere else. So

1209
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: I think, to me, Baker Mayfield should be the favorite.

1210
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: I think he's the likely Week one starter, and I

1211
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: think he's a better quarterback into vacuum than Sam Donald.

1212
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be shocked if Sam Donald because he

1213
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: has that leg up in terms of knowing the playbook

1214
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: and knowing the personnel and having some relationship with the

1215
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: receivers already on that roster. If he is the Week

1216
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: one starter, I don't think he's the favorite, but I

1217
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: think he has a better shot than maybe it might

1218
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 1: seem right now. And I wouldn't be surprised if you

1219
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: saw Sam Donald started at stretches during this season. You know,

1220
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: I don't think I think the Panthers wanted to add

1221
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback, and I think Baker Mayfield the price was right,

1222
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: but I don't think they're as committed to Baker Mayfield

1223
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: as it might seem given what they paid Baker Mayfield

1224
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: versus what they paid Sam Donald. Give us a little

1225
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: rundown on what you think the ripple effects are of

1226
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: this Mayfield trade. Certainly Jimmy Gara Pppolo now with getting

1227
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: healthier and it looks like he's going to be cleared

1228
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 1: to play football. Other quarterbacks that are and other teams

1229
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: that are on them in the market for this quarterback

1230
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 1: in this quarterback market, and also the Deshaun Watson. The

1231
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: fact that Deshaun Watson is going to be suspended, it

1232
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: looks like now for like what eight games or so,

1233
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: give us an idea of the ripple effects of now

1234
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: that the market's been set for Baker Mayfield, what's going

1235
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: to happen. Yeah. I think the Jimmy Garoppolo situation is

1236
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: fascinating because, you know, I always thought it made the

1237
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: most sense for the Niners to send him to Carolina,

1238
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: that's away from the NFC West. It's sort of putting

1239
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 1: him in position where the Panthers have the money to

1240
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: pay for Jimmy Garoppolo, and it gets him out of

1241
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: competition with your roster. And now, you know, heading into

1242
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: really the post draft period, there are two veteran quarterbacks

1243
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: that we were available in Bakeryfield Jimmy Garoppolo, and two

1244
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 1: teams that really needed a veteran in Carolina and Seattle.

1245
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: And now I mean with Jimmy Garoppolo, I think for

1246
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 1: the Niners, the tough part is, you have twenty four

1247
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: million dollars on guaranteed. Do you keep him and have

1248
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: him compete with Trey Lance and pay him all that

1249
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: money when he paid so much with Trey Lance in

1250
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 1: the first place, to Jimmy Garoppolo probably be the most

1251
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: expensive backup in the history of the National Football leag

1252
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: Do you cut him and let him go to Seattle

1253
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: where they need a quarterback and they might have a

1254
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: competitive team if they can get competent quarterback play and

1255
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: you're not competing with Jimmy Garoppolo twice a year at

1256
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: least to the twenty twenty two season. Or is there

1257
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 1: another team out there who's going to need Jimmy Garoppolo?

1258
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: And I think it might be a situation very similar

1259
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: to Baker Mayfields deal, where Jimmy takes a pay cut,

1260
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: the Niners eat some of the money and his new

1261
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: team eat some of the money. And I think to me,

1262
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: the team that makes the most sense given the Deshaun

1263
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 1: Watson situation where he might be suspended, whether it's for

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Speaker 1: eight games maybe for an entire season, would be the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns where they have the cap space to assume

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, where they have a need at quarterback even

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Speaker 1: with Jacobe Risett, where they could still add another quarterback

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Speaker 1: to that roster, and Jimmy Garoppolo playing in a scheme

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco very let the Browns run under Kevin

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Speaker 1: Stefanski in Cleveland, So I don't think there'd be a

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Speaker 1: huge sort of you know pain there in terms of

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Speaker 1: growing paints and going to the new spot. And for

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, hey, you're going to be in a place

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Speaker 1: where you're gonna have the opportunity to start for at

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01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 1: least half the season, prove what you can do again

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Speaker 1: after your injury, and then head into unrestricted free agency

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Speaker 1: next year. That's probably the best case outcome for him

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01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 1: as well. So unless we see another team have their

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Speaker 1: quarterback get injured between now and the end of training camp,

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Speaker 1: I think that's probably the best place for Jimmy Garoppolo

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01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: to land for all parties involved. Is it a good

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Speaker 1: thing or a bad thing that the Panthers only get

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01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield for like one season and then he's going

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01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: to be a free agent because if he does ring

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Speaker 1: the bell, then they're on the hook for him. I

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Speaker 1: think they'll be happy to pay him though, don't you,

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Speaker 1: Bill I do. I always think it's better to have

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Speaker 1: a guy who exceeds your expectations than who disappoints, you know.

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Speaker 1: The NFL teams they do have some level in terms

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Speaker 1: of the franchise tag, in terms of the transition tag,

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Speaker 1: to keep a guy around. I think for Baker, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is a guy who I think, just look at

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Speaker 1: his psyche, look at his personality. He's so used to

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01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: being counted out. He really thrives on being doubted. I

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01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of players who might describe might

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01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 1: describe away, but more so than pretty much anybody else

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, I think Baker Mayfield really wants to feel,

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Speaker 1: you know, valued, wants to feel like the place he's

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Speaker 1: at really wants him. And I think that's why he

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01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,440
Speaker 1: was so disappointed with the Browns when they started negotiating

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Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson, let alone completing that trade. So I

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Speaker 1: think for his pace perspective, if he succeeds in Carolina,

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01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he'll go to the market and want

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01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: a big new deal from someone else. And I guess

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01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: that's not out with the question, but I think he'd

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01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: be happy to find a landing spot in the long

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Speaker 1: term in Carolina. And I think from Carolina's perspective, a

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01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,799
Speaker 1: team that's been looking for a quarterback now for really

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01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: a half decade since Cam Dudon got hurt and sort

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Speaker 1: of you know, went down from where he'd been at

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Speaker 1: his peak. I think they'd be happy to land Don

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01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, even if he's on a Superstars, to have

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Speaker 1: a competent quarterback after sort of going through the wilderness

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Speaker 1: for a few years. Yeah, personally, I want Baker Mayfield

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01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: to win it because I want to see Carolina and

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01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 1: Cleveland in Week one with Baker Mayfield like quarterback selfishly. Yeah,

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01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm hoping that's what happens and what comes

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Speaker 1: out of Panthers camp. But Bill, thanks for the time

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Speaker 1: as always, enjoy upcoming training camp. We know you'll be

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Speaker 1: slicing and dicing it up on ESPN dot com. Thanks Bill,

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys. It's Bill Barnwell, ESPN senior NFL writer joining

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Speaker 1: us here, and he's got some interesting analysis. He comes

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01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 1: up with some interesting ideas as a way to kind

1324
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 1: of he takes different looks at the league, like unique perspectives.

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01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: I always find those reads that he puts together pretty interesting.

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01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's like the reverse angle camera. Yeah, you

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01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 1: know what, that's a very good description of some of

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01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 1: the stuff that's good. It's good perspective and it's a

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01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: it's a different it's a different perspective than most of

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01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 1: us take the time to think about. True. It's good stuff.

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Speaker 1: We will take a break here. When we come back,

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01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 1: we will have a little NFL true false coming your

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01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 1: way as we dice up some scenarios that could be

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01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 1: coming up very shortly here in NFL training camps. We'll

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01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:17,759
Speaker 1: see in a second here on one Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalada Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, people

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Speaker 1: at summer, and Bill's head coach Sean McDermott wants us

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01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 1: all thinking about sun defense. Coach is passionate about skin

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01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 1: cancer prevention as it runs in his family, and he

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01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: takes sun protection very seriously. Most importantly, of course, is

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01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 1: wearing sunscreen. Right now, you can stop by your local

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Speaker 1: Wegmans for all of your sun protection needs. Wegmans will

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Speaker 1: donate one dollar for every Wegman's sunscreen product sold through

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Speaker 1: August thirty first in their Buffalo, Rochester and Syracuse stores.

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01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 1: It's a great way to protect your family and help

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01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 1: the fight against skin cancer and think sun defense. Like

1347
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 1: head coach Sean McDermott, get that sunscreen ready for training camp.

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01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,799
Speaker 1: That's for sure. I got my bottle in the car already. Yeah,

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01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: I go fifty. Man, I don't fool around. Yeah, because

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01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 1: during practice you're out there a long time. Yeah, it's

1351
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 1: just smart move. And now it's you know it used

1352
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: to be. I mean, how stupid were we were kids? Man?

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01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 1: Just go outside, just get get yourself baked until you

1354
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: blistered so bad. My grandfather, hundred percent Italian. The man

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01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 1: used to put like oil on his skin. Oh, yeah,

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01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 1: like baby oil. Yeah. There was no sunstre It's a moisturizer.

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01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you trying to fry your skin? What

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01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: are you doing? Yeah? That that was it, man. That yeah,

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01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: there was none. Sure, they'd put oil on and there

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01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: was no sunscreen in it. No, it was like baby

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01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 1: oil right out of the bottle. Yeah. I was just like,

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01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 1: we were so stupid. I'm not gonna do that. We

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01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: were so running around without seat belts. Not even maybe

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01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: they made cars without seat belt. They didn't have seat belt.

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01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 1: I remember when you had wagons. Yes, you lowed it

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01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: up in the back and in that area and there

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01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 1: were seats there later, but in the early days it

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01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 1: was flat and it was just metal. You'd slide, but

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01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 1: you'd slide. When the car turned, you'd slide across, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is cool. Hey we're looking out the back window. Listen.

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01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: I grew up in a farming community. Let's go getting

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01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: back of the truck. Everybody just jumps in the back

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01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 1: of the pickup. Let's go. You're so stupid, so stupid.

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01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 1: That was back when you were a kid and you

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01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 1: sat in the front seat and your seat belt. If

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01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,719
Speaker 1: you stopped short, was your mom throwing her arm across

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01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: your chest? Yeah, there was none of that was the

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01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 1: that was the how you stopped. I remember vividly. We

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01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 1: had a bench seat in the front there. You know,

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Speaker 1: some some cars had bench seats a car. They don't,

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01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:58,719
Speaker 1: none of them do anymore. But I was a kid.

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01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 1: I was standing up in the front seat between mom

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01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 1: and pop. Dad's driving. We're up there looking around while

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01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 1: my three brothers and amazing, we're all still alive. It

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01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 1: really is. It's unbelievable. What's nothing's gonna happen? This is crazy,

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01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 1: absolutely crazy, reckless. All right, let's uh, let's get to

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Speaker 1: some NFL true false here, brought to you by Yancey's

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Speaker 1: Fancy Yancey's Fancy New York's artisan cheese. And we begin

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Speaker 1: with the very subject we were discussing Steve with one

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Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell from ESPN dot Com. Last segment, Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: and Sam Darnold will cause dysfunction on the Panthers. True

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01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 1: or false? I would say false to this. Those two guys,

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01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,799
Speaker 1: they know each other. They're probably gonna be good friends.

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01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 1: They'll understand. They know, they know the writing on the wall.

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01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: Neither one of them is with the team that drafted him.

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01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: One got cut, or they both got traded to the

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01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 1: Carolina Anthers. They can see the riding on the wall.

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01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: And I'll say this too for Matt Rule and the

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01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. They don't care which one of those guys plays.

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Speaker 1: They guaranteed Sam Darnold eighteen million or twenty two million

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01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: over this next year. They don't care. They're gonna try

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01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 1: and win games. And if Baker Mayfields a better quarterback,

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01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 1: they don't care if they're paying him five million or whatever,

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01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: because the budgets the same. Sam Darnold's getting his money

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01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 1: whether he's on the team or not, and so's Baker,

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01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: So they don't care. So whichever one wins the competition,

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Speaker 1: Presto Chango, he's the quarterback. It's not going to come

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01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 1: between those guys. They're not gonna sit there and try

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01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 1: and sabotage each other or start to, you know, start

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01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 1: to formulate. I mean, this isn't Doug Doug, this isn't Jeff.

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01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 1: What's Johnson? Rob Johnson and Doug Flutie. This is not that,

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01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 1: it's not it's not it's not going to turn into that.

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01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be as adversarial off the

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01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 1: field where they were telling players to pick sides and

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01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: all of that jazz. But I could see it being

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01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: is functional this way. Baker Mayfield wins the job, he

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01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 1: wins in week one, throws four picks in week two?

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01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 1: What's everybody doing? What's the next thing happens? Yeah? Put

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01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 1: Donald in? What are you doing? This guy can't win?

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01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,799
Speaker 1: Get Darnald in there. Then Darnald goes in, he plays

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01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 1: a good game, and then he stinks out the joint

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01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 1: and then it's back to Mayfield. That is not healthy

1423
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: for an NFL football team, and we all know it.

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01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 1: I will say that is where I think the dysfunction

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01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: could surface. Here's the thing. It's not as easy as

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Speaker 1: fans and media think it is to win a job

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01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:46,759
Speaker 1: as a starting quarterback and to lose it. So unless

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01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: it is just a hair's breadth difference in these two quarterbacks,

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01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: which I don't believe it will be, and the guy

1430
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: that wins is gonna win it, because it's not gonna

1431
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: be just what we see this. Oh, he missed this

1432
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: throw and that guy made it. Okay, he's the guy.

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01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: There's gonna be hours and hours of conversations, hours and

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01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 1: hours of contributions to the game plan, and hours and

1435
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 1: hours of off the field conversations and meeting time where

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01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna get evaluated. That all goes into

1437
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,839
Speaker 1: the mix that we never see. So if Baker Mayfield

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01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,679
Speaker 1: does have a good game, bad game, it's not gonna

1439
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, you know what, stink, you stink, let's

1440
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: go it. They're gonna hang in there with and so

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01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 1: will the players. They're gonna hang in there with him,

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01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: and so will the players. Unless unless it is like

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01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 1: a coin flip, unless it is that close, and I

1444
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 1: don't know that it will be. I think there are

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01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: several layers to this, one of them being if the

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01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: competition is close, it could prompt a flip flopping. The

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01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: other thing is Matt Rule has to win. It's year three.

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01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 1: He has to win to keep his job. So if

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01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 1: he feels, to use your phrase, that Darnold is a

1450
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,799
Speaker 1: hair's bread have better than Mayfield against a particular opponent,

1451
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: he's putting them in the game. Maybe, and that is

1452
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 1: going to be nothing but dysfunction. I am being true.

1453
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 1: This could be, but I'll say this Matt Rule will

1454
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 1: have the pulse of the locker room too. Now there'll

1455
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 1: be guys who will say, um who, here's another thing.

1456
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 1: And this I'm talking myself out of the You know,

1457
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 1: there's not gonna be dysfunction. There'll be guys and you know,

1458
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: we've all we we all feel like we know who

1459
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 1: Baker is, right, Baker likes the spotlight. There's a little

1460
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 1: flutie in there. Baker loves the spotlight. There's a little

1461
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:40,599
Speaker 1: flutie in there. And so there's gonna be some guys

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01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: in the locker room who hope that Sam Darnold remains quarterback.

1463
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 1: And there'll be others who hope Baker Mayfield gets the

1464
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: starting job. And there'll be guys who just give me

1465
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: somebody who wins it out right, so that when you

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01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,600
Speaker 1: start saying, I hope he may you know that that

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01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: you know, then it starts to get personal. Then right then,

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Speaker 1: right at that moment, the Carolina Panthers ignite. I'm just

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Speaker 1: going to say, they are on fire in a dumpster.

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Speaker 1: You said it's not gonna be like Flutie Johnson was here,

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Speaker 1: which dragged on for three insufferable years. Was it three years? Yes? Oh,

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Speaker 1: it was not a fun time. It was initially fun

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Speaker 1: because of the controversy as a as a beat reporter

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Speaker 1: covering this team. By year three we were all just

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Speaker 1: done with it because it complete. It eclipsed everything else

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01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: that was going on with the foot It was like

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Speaker 1: blocking out the sun. It was. It was insane. You

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01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 1: say it's not going to be like that. I say,

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Speaker 1: I see a little bit of Flutie in Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 1: A guy that feels that he's doubted, mistrusted, doesn't feel

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Speaker 1: he gets enough respect, everything, an a Heisman Trophe winner.

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Speaker 1: Let's not forget. And then you have on the other

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Speaker 1: side of the ledger a California quarterback from southern Califa.

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Speaker 1: What wait, what is history repeating itself? In Charlotte North Carolina.

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01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: It could very well be Steve. And I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: say this too. I want this function just for the

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01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 1: entertainment value. How much fun will it be for that

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01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 1: to happen to somebody else. I want the entertainment value

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01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 1: of that kind of just I want to watch it

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01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: burn baby the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire.

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Speaker 1: Give me some of that. I want to see it

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Speaker 1: in all its splendor and glory that will be. Yeah,

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01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 1: you can certainly we because listen, Bill's fan lived it

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Speaker 1: every day for three years. We know I want to

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01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 1: see it somewhere else Bill's fans. I want to it

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Speaker 1: from Afar. How exhausting that is, gosh. And to be

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01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 1: able to have the situation where the Bills are at

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01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 1: right now and being able to watch somebody else do

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01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 1: the only way it could be more delicious if it

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Speaker 1: was one of the teams in their division. Well, yeah,

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01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,759
Speaker 1: but there is. But I think there is full blown

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01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 1: potential here. But yes, a lot of the same kind

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01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 1: of players. Mayfield is, Darnaldi is Johnson. Yes, Oh it's gosh.

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01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 1: I didn't think about it, but it is sweet, sweet nectar,

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01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 1: and I'm ready to characterizations there for you on those

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01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks in their personality is spot on, because Doug

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01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: Flutie was absolutely was psychotic in his desire to get

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01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: on the field and paranoid and yes, paranoid about people

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01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 1: doubting him. And I think there's a little bit of

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01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: that in Mayfield, yes, and he had no problem with sabotage.

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Speaker 1: M h. And that's I'm telling you, man, And I'm

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01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: telling you this too, Steve. This could be the last

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01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 1: real opportunity for either of these two guys to be

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Speaker 1: the guy in their NFL careers, because the guy that

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Speaker 1: doesn't get this starting job maybe a backup for the

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01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 1: rest of his career maybe. And I mean there's sources

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01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,719
Speaker 1: people to do stupid stuff. There's also there's also the chance,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're probably not thinking that right now because

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01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 1: probably both of them feel like they could be still

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01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 1: be that guy. And Baker certainly has a case with

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01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: the tough season he went through last year trying to

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01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 1: play hurt and not being able to get it done.

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01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 1: But I will say it's easy for us to sit

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01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: here and cast dispersions on all these other quarterbacks with

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01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 1: the guy that we've got taken snaps, but both those

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01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 1: guys still have some questions that we haven't seen the

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01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 1: answers to yet that we don't know about yet. Sam

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01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 1: Darnold on a horrific roster with a horrific head coach.

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01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:57,440
Speaker 1: His first year got off to a really rough start. Mayfield,

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01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 1: this is is what fifth offense coordinator in five years,

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Speaker 1: And I mean it's just like you know so and

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01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 1: and a tough, injury riddled season last year. So there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that have gone through and they

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01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 1: could be their ceilings don't seem to be as high

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01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: as you'd like them to be, but certainly their floor

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01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't think is as low as a lot of

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01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 1: people would blame them for. So we'll see. I think

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01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: it's really going to be interesting that week one, Cleveland

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01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:34,640
Speaker 1: hosting Carolina. That really is delicious, It really is. I

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01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 1: that to me is must watch. You've got to be

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01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:41,600
Speaker 1: on I have got to see that game. Well, you'll

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01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 1: hopefully you have a chance to because the Bills are

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01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 1: playing Thursday night, so we won't have a Bills game. Oh,

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01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 1: I've already mapped out the entire weekend. In fact, that's

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Speaker 1: going to be one of our Twitter questions later on.

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01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: What are you gonna how are you going to handle

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01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 1: the weekend when you're playing on Thursday night on the kickoff,

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01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 1: and let's just you know, you beat the Rams fifty

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01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 1: five to nothing and you got the rest of the

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01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 1: week and to just just wallow in it. I just

1551
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:08,759
Speaker 1: think it has the potential to dysfunction with a capital Caroline,

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01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 1: I am fire for all of you. You know I'll

1553
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 1: say this too, Brownie. I want to watch their preseason.

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01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: We get them in there. We're there, there are, We're Yeah,

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01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 1: the last preseason game is there in Carolina. The builds

1556
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 1: are headed down. You'll be making that trip. I will

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01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 1: be too. What am I saying? I'm gonna be down

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01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 1: there too for t That'll be good. Oh my gosh,

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01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 1: it's gonna be so delicious. Uh. That is NFL true false.

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01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 1: As we gobbled up the whole segment with that one topic,

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Speaker 1: and it's a juicy one. It's gonna get nothing but

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01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 1: better from here on out. I have full confidence in it,

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Speaker 1: but we have to take a break here. Steve and

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Speaker 1: So you got a chance, roll up your sleeve and

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Speaker 1: get out there. Good stuff. I'm overdue, I gotta it's

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Speaker 1: been over a year, I think for me. It's been

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Speaker 1: over a year for me too. But I did it,

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01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 1: Actually I did it. During the thick of COVID. I

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01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 1: went in like in twenty twenty. I think it's last time.

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01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 1: Oh did you I went in twenty twenty one and April,

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01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 1: so it's just over a year now, right that I

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01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 1: did it and I had we were still wearing masks

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01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: and everything. Maybe it was in twenty twenty one, man,

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01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 1: I can't remember. It's time for me to do it again, though. Yeah,

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01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:29,719
Speaker 1: gotta get out there. They're hitting me up on emails.

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01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 1: I'll get to you. I'll get to you. The same

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01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 1: with me. I'm like, ah, yeah, yeah, okay, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know, I get it. Good stuff. All right, Steve,

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Speaker 1: your week is over. You're gonna take your last break

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Speaker 1: before training. Get the house sitters set up. I gotta

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Speaker 1: get the everything else. We got a family reunion this weekend.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be great, So enjoy your time doing that,

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Speaker 1: and we will regroup on Monday. I will have our

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Speaker 1: our colleague Mattie Glab joining us here tomorrow. We will

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