1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: What is up? Straight Fire? I am HiT's me Jason McIntyre, 3 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: Straight baw Yer for Monday, November, the third Halloween is 4 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: in the rearview mirror. Hope everybody had a safe, fun, 5 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: awesome Halloween weekend. I've eaten a lot of my kids candy, uh, 6 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: to the point that like I basically hand picked all 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: the good stuff. It was a phenomenal weekend just all around, 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: except for the time change. I hate that. I cannot 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: stand it. Hit some Halloween parties watched I think the 10 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: greatest World Series Game seven of my life. I'm sure 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: there have been other ones that were comparable, but I 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: certainly don't remember them. This one was riveting. We'll talk 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: about it at length. Obviously, we'll do NFL first. We're 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: not gonna get into the college football stuff. I know 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: another coach got fired. I think it was the guy 16 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: at Auburn. He got canned. They're just everybody in college football. 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: It's like, hey, you're not delivering. Get the hell out 18 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: of dodge. But we'll start with the NFL. And obviously 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: we're going to go to the Game of this Century 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: as it usually is called Buffalo twenty eight, KC twenty one. 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: I don't know why everybody loved Kansas City here, all 22 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: the sharp betters were all over all you got to 23 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: take Kansas Study best team in the league on the 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: herd this past week, I said, cowhard, I'm so confident 25 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: in Buffalo. If the Chiefs win, I will not say 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: a negative word about them again this regular season. And 27 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: then the Bills won, and the Bills handled it. This 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: was not particularly close. Guys. Listen, I'm not going to 29 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: be out here bashing Patrick Mahomes. He's obviously a great 30 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: quarterback that's undeniable. But Patrick Mahomes just had the worst 31 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: game of his career against the defense that's been kind 32 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: of pushed around by a lot of teams in this league. 33 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: I mean, we saw Drake may have his way with 34 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills defense less than a month ago. We 35 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: saw Michael Pennox carve up the Buffalo Bill's defense. Okay, 36 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: I mean Lamar Jackson. In the opening, when everybody was 37 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: healthy up and down the field, they scored forty points. 38 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, I think it was like, with six minutes up, 39 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: they were still stuck on thirteen points. Mahomes fifteen of 40 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: thirty four. Maybe the stat of Sunday, the first time 41 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: in his career he's had under fifty percent completions. It 42 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: was staggering. I'm not saying nobody's saying Mahomes is a 43 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 2: terrible quarterback. It's okay to say, man Patrick Mahomes had 44 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: the worst game of his career in a weirdly big spot. 45 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: And then you know, that's when the cheese fans get 46 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: all worked up and it said, well, wait a minute, 47 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: we didn't have but check. Oh, it's always somebody's missing. Well, 48 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: you know, let me see Rashe Rice was there. Yeah, 49 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: he didn't do much for my fantasy team, but Race 50 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: Rice did play. Let me see Hollywood Brown. Yeah he played. 51 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: He played, Xavier Worthy, he he showed up yep, yep. 52 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: Three catches on seven targets. Travis Kelsey, yes he played. 53 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 2: Oh so, basically they had everyone except Isaiah Pacheco. Now, 54 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: the offensive line, which hasn't been great, was missing Simmons again, 55 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 2: the young rookie left tackle, and then Trey Smith sat out, 56 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: and I think someone else got hurt, so they got 57 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: dinged up. They sacked Mahomes three times. It felt like 58 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: they hit him a ton I'm seeing fifteen in the 59 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: ESPN box spoor score. Bosa and Russo dominated the edges. 60 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: It wasn't quite like Mahomes struggling in the Super Bowl 61 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: against Tampa or in the Super Bowl against the Eagles, 62 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: where he was literally on his back every play. But 63 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: Mahomes was clearly flustered and rattled in office spot and 64 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: wasn't the same Mahomes magic outside of you know, a 65 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: fourth and seventeen completion. Fun stats for those who care 66 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: for this mighty Kansas City defense, which everybody thought was 67 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: good because they smoked Rob G's raiders right and they 68 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: shut down Marcus Mariota. Last week, the Bills went seven 69 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: for twelve on third down. You know, math majors out there, 70 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: that's pretty damn good. Above fifty percent, three for three 71 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: in the red zone. Chiefs had not allowed a one 72 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: hundred yard rusher in twenty seven games. James Cook, who 73 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: I was upset did not get carries inside the five 74 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: for my fantasy team, did have one hundred and fourteen 75 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: yards on the ground, and Josh Allen twenty three of 76 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: twenty six. Just listen, I'm not doing the MVP thing. 77 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: I'm not, you know, at Fox. They always are like, oh, well, 78 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: what about Baker Rayfield for the VP, let's talk about that, 79 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: or who's your VP leader? I'm like, who cares. It's 80 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: week seven, it's week nine, it doesn't really matter. But 81 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: if you insist on an MVP discussion, only if you insist, 82 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: you start with Josh Allen. He's your new leader because 83 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: he beat Patrick Mahomes and the alleged best team in 84 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: the league. I didn't have them as the best, but 85 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: virtually everyone else did a lot of the power rankings 86 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 2: from the gamblers and had the Chiefs as the number 87 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: one team. They were favored in the spot. And so 88 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: for Alan to absolutely carve up this Bagnolo defense, I 89 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 2: think he's got to be your MVP leader if you 90 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: want to talk about that. Now. One interesting set that 91 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: I saw, and this goes to an overarching theme that 92 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 2: I think we've been talking about here on the pod 93 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 2: for the last few years. The NFL has been super 94 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 2: pass heavy, right. It's you've got to pass the win. 95 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: You have passings more efficient than running. It's just a 96 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 2: smarter move to pass the football than running into the 97 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: line scrip. It just is. It's that's just how the 98 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 2: NFL has become it's a passing league. So this season, 99 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: as defenses have adjusted to the passing league, Hey, we're 100 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: taking away the big play, nothing over the top. We 101 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 2: double dog dare you to go eleven plays down the 102 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: field without committing penalties that turnover. We're betting you're gonna 103 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 2: mess up, so we're gonna keep everything in front of us. 104 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: So the smart teams have pivoted and gone heavier. They 105 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: are now passing out of two and three tight end 106 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 2: sets way more than they used to. Remember McVeigh in 107 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: the London game against the Jags, McVeigh went with like 108 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: three tight end sets almost all the time. He never 109 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: has done that in his career. The Jags were totally 110 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: caught off guard and they were able to pass, to 111 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: do whatever they want run pass, And yesterday somebody pulled 112 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: the numbers. The Bills in you know, the Alan versus 113 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: Mahomes battles usually are passing more than they run, sixty 114 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: two percent to thirty eight percent. They completely changed that yesterday, 115 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: going fifty two percent run, forty eight percent pass. So 116 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: they had thirty five rushes twenty six pass attempts. So 117 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: they're lining up heavy and passing out of it sometimes, 118 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: but also they're just running the ball down your throat, 119 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: and with the soft boxes and the two deep safeties 120 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: to keep everything in front of you, there's a lot 121 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: of room to run. Cook had a good I didn't 122 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: think he was particularly great. Alan of course had his 123 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: clutch carries. But if you looked around the league Sunday, 124 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: that was a big trend. We'll talk about the Packers 125 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: losing to the Panthers. You can imagine what happened in 126 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: that game, and I'll tell you right now. Bryce Young 127 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: threw for under one hundred and fifteen yards, Okay, And 128 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: you look around some of these other big games and 129 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, really the Bears rushed. Wait, the Bear's 130 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: go forty seven points, but rush for one hundred and 131 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: seventy five yards. It's like, Wow. The Colts when they 132 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: can't run as they couldn't with Jonathan Taylor, they get smashed. 133 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: They have to throw the football and there's you know, 134 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: five turnovers from Daniel Jones and company. It is it's 135 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 2: just a really fascinating subplot. Did you see Jared goff 136 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: rob no run game? The Vikings choked it out and 137 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Jared's got Gough has enough dropped 138 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: back and passed a lot. He's getting pressured, he's getting rattled, 139 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: he's committing turnovers, he's taken sacks. It's a weird league 140 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: right now, and you know, betting it is obviously very risky. 141 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: I will say I had a pop positive Sunday thanks 142 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: to the Seattle blowout Sunday night. Saturday was incredible. I 143 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: think it was eight and two in college, just a 144 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: banner weekend. Only two and three in the contest, but 145 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: the Rams did get home in Survivor. Now next week's Survivor, 146 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: we may have to do a whole podcast on it 147 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: because it's a really freaking tough slate. But Rob, I'm 148 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: just curious your thoughts on Bills taking down the Chiefs 149 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: and doing it with the run game. Obviously Allan was 150 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: super efficient, but also the overall theme that like, right now, 151 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: you want to be able to run the football to 152 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: matriculate down the field as opposed to these big chunk 153 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: plays which are just not happening. 154 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: Now. 155 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 2: When you play the Bengals, you're gonna have chunk plays 156 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: down of the field. The worst defense like in the 157 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: history of the sport. But overall, it is interesting so 158 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: maybe the Raiders, your Raiders were right to draft astro jecty. 159 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: They just try to have an offensive line. 160 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 4: No, no, no, and quick aside America. If you want 161 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: to know how you can afford to own a La 162 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 4: Liga Nakoxa soccer, it's because you go eight and two 163 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 4: ben college football, all right. 164 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: That's how you do it. That's how you snack up 165 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: the chips. 166 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 4: So you can be a part owner and be on 167 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 4: uh with a Hulu document whatever document you guys run. 168 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 4: But that's how you do it, all right. Now, that 169 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 4: game yesterday between the Bills and the Chiefs was kind 170 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 4: of wild for a number of reasons. You mentioned the 171 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 4: running game. It was the first time all season that 172 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 4: the Chiefs vaunted defense, giving up a running yards rushing 173 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 4: to anybody, and it was James Cooks. And yet to 174 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 4: your point, Josh Allen got the goal line work. So 175 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 4: I could see how that would be frustrating if you're. 176 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: How'd you do in your fantasy? 177 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 3: Oh? I blew everyone out. 178 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 4: It was great as bad as I was. McCaffrey, right, yes, 179 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 4: A had McCaffrey. Had McCaffrey as bad as I was 180 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 4: last week, I was as good this week. 181 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: So you know, that kind of balanced itself. 182 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 4: Out, but obviously the big story even though Josh Allen 183 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: gets to win, and despite having a relatively down season 184 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 4: by his standards, right, one great game. 185 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 3: Against what is perceived to be a great opponent. 186 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 4: He goes twenty three or twenty six, two seventy three 187 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 4: three total touchdowns and he's. 188 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 3: Suddenly the favorite to winn NFL MVP. 189 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 4: This despite the fact that you know, Matthew Stafford was 190 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 4: great again. You know, I guess Jonathan Taylor has a 191 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 4: bad game, so he's eliminated completely, right, Like there's been 192 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 4: a it's just a weird the way this MVP race 193 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 4: is going at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if, come, 194 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 4: you know, Christmas time, we're saying, hey, if if Lamar 195 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 4: Jackson finishes stronger last two weeks, what don't watch out 196 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 4: for Lamar Jackson win an MVP again. But it's interesting 197 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 4: to me that Kansas City, who had looked like arguably 198 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 4: the best team in football for the last month or so, 199 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 4: could turn in such a dud of a performance, right 200 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 4: you mentioned it. Patrick Mahomes lowest passing completion rate in 201 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 4: his NFL career, first time ever under fifty percent, but 202 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 4: if you watch the game, it was even worse than that, 203 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 4: right because you mentioned it. He was under pressure a lot, 204 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 4: and it appeared not quite as bad as Super Bowl. 205 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 4: But he looked like, you know, not saying he was 206 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 4: seeing ghosts, but he didn't look comfortable at all. He 207 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 4: looked very skittish back there, like he was seeing ghosts 208 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 4: when the ghosts weren't even there. And in the post game, 209 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 4: I don't remember which defensive player they asked, but they 210 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 4: asked him like, Hey, what was the key to slowing 211 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 4: down past Mahomes that offense? And in his answer, he says, 212 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 4: we wanted to give him the illusion that there were 213 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 4: running lanes for him to escape through, and then we 214 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 4: would close it immediately so he'd be stuck in the 215 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 4: pocket and then things would go haywire from there. And 216 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 4: when I read that quote, I wanted to try to 217 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 4: find the audio or the video. I couldn't find it 218 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 4: on Twitter. But it's like, are we talking about like 219 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts right now? Are we talking about early career? 220 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 4: Like this is Patrick freaking Mahomes. You mean to tell 221 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 4: me the key to slowing him down is, hey, let 222 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 4: him think he can run but he can't, and let's 223 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 4: make him beat it from the pocket. 224 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: And I was like that that kind of blew my mind. 225 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 3: And then you look at the advanced. 226 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 4: Stats when pressured, Patrick Mahomes was three of sixteen for 227 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 4: sixty one yards and a pick like that is incredible. 228 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 4: And I'm not saying incredibly bad exactly. I'm not saying 229 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills have found the magic elixir and that's 230 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 4: the key to beating Batrick Mahomes moving forward, of course not. 231 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 4: But it was illustrative of a bigger problem that Kansas 232 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 4: City has had basically all season, and that is inconsistency. 233 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 4: Like they start off the season bad, back to back losses. 234 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 4: They look ugly in a win against the Giants, they 235 00:11:58,559 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 4: look great against. 236 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 3: Baltimore, Lamar Jackson gets knocked. They were great, They're gonna 237 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: win the game. Anyways. 238 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 4: They follow that up with a dot of a performance 239 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 4: on primetime against Trevor Lawrence. They bounce back in a 240 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 4: big way against the Detroit Lions, and then they beat 241 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 4: up on the lowly Raiders and the injury depleted Washington Commanders. 242 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 4: So you think, hey, now they got Rashid Rice back, 243 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 4: all their weapons are back. Watch Out, Here Come Homes. 244 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: He's the MVP favorite, they're the Super Bowl favorite again, 245 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 4: and then they just get blitz creaged by a Buffalo 246 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 4: Bills team that had looked mediocre coming into this game. 247 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 4: So it's just it's to your point of the podcast, 248 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 4: I don't know who's good right now. Like trying to 249 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 4: predict week to week what team is gonna show up 250 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 4: is a fool's errand and I guarantee you, coming out 251 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 4: of the buy in a huge AFC West clash between 252 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 4: Kansas City and Denver, that. 253 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 3: Kansasy is probably gonna blow doors off of them. 254 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, shoot, Rob, damn it. So I already bet one 255 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: game for Week ten, and that is the Thursday night 256 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 2: game Denver against the Raiders, your Raiders. The game is 257 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: in Denver, obviously a very tough spot for the Raiders 258 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: coming off an overtime game, being on the field, blah 259 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: blah blah. I didn't look to see that the Broncos 260 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: have the Chiefs after that. So just as we saw 261 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: in Green Bay, remember Packers had Aaron Rodgers Carolina and 262 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: then next week they got the Eagles in a big, 263 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: big game that obviously national TV and teams are prone 264 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: to letdowns, and like you said, we've been on this 265 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: since side what week three or four? Who? Who the 266 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 2: hell's good in this league? No, everybody's got more than 267 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: one loss, I mean, everybody had. The Chiefs is the 268 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: best team in the league. So what do you automatically 269 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: put Buffalo back there? 270 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: Now? 271 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, is how dangerous is Baltimore? 272 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: Like you said, Lamar is gonna be in the MVP 273 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 2: mix pretty soon. I just I don't know what to do. 274 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 2: I'll tell you right now though, Like Pittsburgh Steelers, they're 275 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: not good guys. I don't care what you're telling about 276 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: to tell you they're not a good football team. The 277 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: Chargers lost Joe alt I'm sure you guys saw that 278 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: they're a different team without them. And by the way, 279 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 2: Harball was sacked six times in that game against the 280 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 2: lowly Titans, who didn't have their best defensive lineman in 281 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: Jeffy's So, like all around, the league's just absolute craziness. 282 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 283 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio 284 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 285 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: listen live. 286 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 2: Let's see Rob if we if we were trying to 287 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: project who's in the Super Bowl. I don't know. I mean, 288 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: the Packers can play up or down to anybody. I'm 289 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: sure the Packers will beat the Eagles next week. Right, 290 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: let's see here, maybe maybe when the Niners get healthy, 291 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: if they ever do. I don't know if you saw 292 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: the news, so Bryce Huff missed the game, right, and 293 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: their other best rusher boss out Mickel Williams, the guy 294 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: that got out of Georgia. Oh no, wait, I think 295 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: he's on the Is he on the Falcon? 296 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: No? 297 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: No, mikeel mckel Williams is on the forty nine ers 298 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: edge rusher and now he's out, uh and probably a 299 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: season ender. So I don't exactly know what's gonna happen 300 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: with with the Niners. Like, I mean, is Brandon per 301 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: what's his name? Brandon? And Yuke Ever gonna come back? 302 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: Is King piercill Ever coming back? 303 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: Piercel I put him on, ir guys. He's chewing up 304 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: space on my freaking fantasy roster. I mean, I just 305 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if the forty nine ers could ever 306 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: get healthy. So if you pressed me, j Mac definitely 307 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: need a fantasy uh not a fantasy, I definitely need 308 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl pick out of you right now. I 309 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: guess I would go Bill's Eagles. Is that is that 310 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: boring predictable? 311 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 3: No? 312 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 4: I mean what you're banking on is like water leveling 313 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 4: itself out, that the good teams are going to become 314 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: good Buffalo Egans all year, that they have an easy schedule, 315 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 4: and you're banking on the Eagles talent that it's going 316 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 4: to figure itself out at some point, even if they 317 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 4: haven't actually looked good throughout the season. If you would 318 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 4: have asked me coming into Sunday who the best team 319 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 4: in football is, I would have said the Detroit Lions, 320 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 4: who looked whole in their loss to JJ McCarthy and 321 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 4: co JK. McCarthy would have played one good quarter in 322 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 4: his NFL career, marched up and down the field, now 323 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 4: obviously aided by turnovers and things of that nature. But 324 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 4: if you watch that game, and I watched a lot 325 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 4: of that one, you saw exactly why teams nowadays the 326 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 4: prototype is get you a guy who can move around 327 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 4: in the pocket. Because Jared Goff, as soon as he 328 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 4: felt a little bit of pressure, was either going down 329 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 4: in a heap or throwing horrible balls. Yeah, and it's like, well, 330 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 4: that's how you have a team that's explosive as Detroit 331 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 4: going against a wounded, you know, quite honestly a mediocre 332 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: Minnesota Vikings team and gets smacked at home. And I 333 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 4: would say, Okay, if I'm gonna go in the AFC, 334 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 4: the team that has been the best throughout the season, 335 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 4: not just recently would have been the Indianapolis Colts, and 336 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 4: six turnovers later, I would have looked freaking stupid because 337 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, even though he's been great throughout most of 338 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 4: this year, looked like the Daniel Jones that we would 339 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 4: have saw on a Sunday night prime time with the 340 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 4: New York Giants, Like, how was this guy even in 341 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 4: the league at this point? 342 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 3: Like that's what he looked like on Sunday He. 343 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: Basically yeah, we knew he turned into a pumpkin at 344 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: some point. Yeah, so I don't. I mean, are the 345 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: Colts good? Like, yeah, if they can run the football, 346 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 2: play indoors, sure they're great. Let's quickly touch on the 347 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 2: quarterback injuries, rob two obviously significant ones. We'll start with C. J. Stroud. 348 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I was on the Texans that was a 349 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: tough loss when you lose CJ. Stroud early to what 350 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: looked like one of the nastiest hits. His head hit 351 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: the ground so hard. I will be shocked if he 352 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: plays this coming week. I mean, he looked so woozy, 353 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 2: he was down for a while. Just a tough, tough 354 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 2: one for the Texans and they were in that until 355 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: the end. You know it's but the Houston Texans are 356 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: just a rotten football team. I don't think they're going 357 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: to the playoffs this year. I think the Jags are better. 358 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: The Stroud one hurts, the one of the Jayden Daniels 359 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: injury obviously pretty grotesque. Dan Quinn's gonna catch a lot 360 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: of heat today for having his quarterback in the game 361 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 2: running for his life all night up thirty eight to seven. 362 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: I mean, the Seattle defense was just prowling and drilling people, 363 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: and Daniels kind of put his arm down there in 364 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: the red zone and it bent backwards. It's pretty gross. 365 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: I don't think they showed the replay on TV. They 366 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 2: you probably won't see it, but if you go online 367 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 2: you can see it. It's really nasty. I'm praying that 368 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 2: they were able to just pop it back in elbow 369 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 2: hyper extended. But it may be way worse than that. 370 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 2: And I think we covered this last week. Washington is 371 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: not a is not a team. I don't want to 372 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: say they quit out there, Rob, but dropping into three 373 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: and six, Jayden Daniels hurt, gonna miss time again. I 374 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 2: think they got the Lions this week with Mariota. You know, 375 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: it smells like probably a beat down, as the Lions 376 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: will want to bounce back and win. But the Stroud 377 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 2: one is pretty bad. Listen, man, these young quarterbacks, we've 378 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 2: got to protect them. And I know there was no 379 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: flag and on the Stroud hit, and I don't know 380 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 2: if you saw the video. Rob. The coach, Jamiico Ryans 381 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 2: is upset and all these jibbroni's online are like, oh 382 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: he's slid, he's fair game. Just lay off the freaking quarterbacks, guys. 383 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: I mean, you can't put Washington in primetime without Daniels. 384 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: You can't put Houston in primetime with Davis Mills as 385 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: a starter. You just can't do that. And you start 386 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: losing these quarterbacks and it's like, just you know, these 387 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: teams are unwatchable. I'm sorry, that's how it is. You've 388 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: got to protect these guys. And you know, I don't know, Rob, 389 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: They're both well. Stroud is in year three, Daniels is 390 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: in year two, but we both saw similar situations. Amazing 391 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: rookie year and then come back to earth a little 392 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: bit the next year and health is becoming an issue. 393 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, And obviously I know you didn't say this or suggested, 394 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 4: but just for anyone who's listening, we're not comparing the CJ. 395 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 4: Stroud injury and the Jayden Daniels injury. Right, Jayden Daniels 396 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 4: was a football play. It just was freaky and it 397 00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 4: was unfortunate. 398 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: Well, should he have been in the game. 399 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 4: No, that's the bigger question. That's the bigger question. He 400 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 4: should have been out of the game, of course. And 401 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 4: to be quite honest with you, when when I was 402 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 4: watching that game and in the Lakers records, I had 403 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 4: to watch Ja Laavia Cook, right, but what I saw 404 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 4: at halftime that it was a blowout. Because I'm watching 405 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 4: the game, right, of course, and I see the stat 406 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 4: that at halftime Sam Donald was sixteen or sixteen, two 407 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 4: eighty two, four touchdowns then a perfect one fifty eight 408 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 4: passer rating. I'm like, well, let's put that game now 409 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 4: on my phone and let's put the Lakers on the 410 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 4: big TV, like that's what we'll do. And so I'm 411 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 4: only looking glancing back and forth at the Washington Seattle game, 412 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 4: and it's like, well it's getting out of Hampston. 413 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 3: Is Jim Damsel in there? Nah? 414 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 4: No, I just go back at Lakers and it's like, anyway, 415 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 4: is he still in there? Like he's still really they're 416 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 4: still playing him. And then of course you see that 417 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 4: fluke nasty injuries. To your point, hopefully it's as simple 418 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 4: as pop it back in air casting. 419 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 2: Probably not, I'm just I'm not sure it's not. 420 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 4: But that you know, that's what you're hoping because of 421 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 4: how bad the instant replay was. But it's just like, 422 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 4: I don't know what the NFL can do more than 423 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 4: what they are do to protect these quarterbacks, especially when 424 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 4: so many of them, like Patrick Mahomes, like Josh Allen, 425 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 4: like Lamar Jackson, like the best guys Justin Herbert, live 426 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 4: on this edge where if you think they're gonna slide, 427 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 4: they'll run you over. If you think they're gonna go 428 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 4: out of bounds, they're dip their shoulder to get another 429 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 4: three or four yards and unless you police that out 430 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 4: of it completely, where you say quarterbacks cannot run or 431 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 4: if you two haven't touched them past the tackle box 432 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 4: or out past the line of scrimmage, then he's down. Like, 433 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 4: I don't know what you can do realistically to prevent 434 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 4: these kind of injuries. 435 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 2: So you and I like the NFL, well, we love it, 436 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: you know, of course, Santa See, we do gambling. Okay, 437 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 2: here's the dirty little secret. Just one game usually angry. Okay. 438 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: These are the scores of the most recent Island games, right, 439 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: so Sunday night, Monday night, Thursday night, London. This was 440 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: blowout Seattle, blowout City Ravens waxed the Dolphin. On Thursday, 441 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: Chiefs beat Marcus Mariotto buy a million. On Monday, Packers 442 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 2: come back to beat the Steelers, and again it was 443 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 2: interesting for a half, maybe three quarters. They still one 444 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 2: by ten. Chargers stomp out Carson Wentz by twenty five. 445 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: The Texans Seahawks game was just total trash. That one Monday, 446 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 2: and I think it was Monday night. There was Lions 447 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: Bucks which was awful. Monday night Niners beat the Falcons 448 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: in a really slow, boring Sunday night game. Rams In 449 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: their international visit versus the Jags, Like, we can't get 450 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: good primetime games, and Rob, that's the thing. Sunday thrilling, 451 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 2: six games happening, bears this that it's fun. And then 452 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: you go an Island game and you're like, shit, can 453 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: I turn on Wemby versus the Suns here? Where's the 454 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 2: Laker game? It's just the NF And I get it 455 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: the ratings, you know, I get I'm not arguing against 456 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 2: the NFL. We love it. But the reality is a 457 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 2: lot of these games, Rob just not competitive. I mean, 458 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: if this injury to Daniels is serious, I'm looking at 459 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: their schedule. I mean, they had they were supposed to 460 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: have a big time game against the Lions next week 461 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 2: on Fox Sunday. Then they had the I don't know 462 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: where's this game Madrid somewhere Lion against the Dolphins November sixteenth. 463 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: I just see six thirty am. Then they had the 464 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: Broncos on Sunday and Night Football. Good. That's got to 465 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: get flexed out, right. If Jayden Daniels isn't there against Bronix, sure, yeah, 466 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 2: I just it's in Christmas Day Cowboys Washington. So Marcus 467 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: Mariotta on Christmas Day, like Geese, just cancel Christmas. Any 468 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 2: other NFL stuff we missed, rob that is worthy of 469 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: discussion before we go to the World Series. 470 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: Real quick, I mean just quickly. 471 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 4: If you didn't get to watch Bears Bengals, you know, 472 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 4: apologies to you, because I will go on record. 473 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: The football itself was not great. Okay. 474 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 4: It was a defense, defense optional game. It reminded me 475 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 4: of the old Big twelve when it was Baker Mayfield 476 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 4: was just Patrick Mahomes and each guy through for seven 477 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 4: hundred yards. Like it was one of those kind of 478 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 4: games where nobody could tackle. Coverage was bad, the defensive 479 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 4: play calls were horrible. But if you like offense and 480 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 4: you like drama, this was the game of the century 481 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 4: because again, the football wasn't good, but the cinema was incredible. 482 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 4: Joe Flacco does everything he can to march his team back. 483 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 4: Should have been a three touchdown game when he threw 484 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 4: a pick at the goal line and they somehow ruled 485 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 4: the defender down by contact, which gave the Bengals, you know, 486 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 4: just a little bit of life. They forced it three 487 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 4: and out to get the ball back touchdown, they go 488 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 4: for the on side kick, which never gets conforted evermore 489 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 4: because of the way. 490 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: That the rules are. 491 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 4: They recovered the on side kick, they've marched right down. 492 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 4: They score another touchdown, and because they had gone for 493 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 4: two in the previous score, they're up by one with 494 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 4: under a minute left. He said, hey, Cincinnati, all you 495 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 4: gotta do is hold them, hold them one stop. You're 496 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 4: gonna get one stop at all in this game. Now's 497 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 4: the time to get it. Of course they don't do. 498 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 4: They not give up like a winning field goal. They 499 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 4: give up like a fifty yard touchdown as a guy 500 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 4: running an untouched for the last forty And it was 501 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 4: so bad that after the game. And these are veteran players, 502 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 4: like Jamar Chase is a veteran player. He knows what 503 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 4: he can say and not say when the cameras are round. 504 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 4: Chase Brown is a veteran player. He knows what he 505 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 4: can say and not say when the cameras around. I 506 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 4: think he's actually a captain on there, both of them, 507 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 4: one of them is, at least Jamar Chase is caught 508 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 4: on the caught on cameras. 509 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 3: And we can't get one fucking stop, Chase. Chase Brown 510 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 3: says to reporters. 511 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 4: Like after they had been questioning him on what In 512 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 4: the same asage, if you can watch the video, he says, 513 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 4: you know, the key is we're not going to turn 514 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 4: on each other because the defense was carrying us there 515 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 4: in the beginning of the season, you know, and now 516 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 4: the offense is doing much better now here in the 517 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 4: last couple of weeks. And in the same course of 518 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 4: the answer, well, how about you guys in the fucking game, 519 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 4: why couldn't you guys do that? Like they was so 520 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 4: bad and it was so much drama, both on the 521 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 4: field and off the field that if you didn't get 522 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 4: to catch the Navid I feel sorry for you. 523 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: I have a past. All this stat floating around social media. 524 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 2: Then the last three years, teams that score thirty eight 525 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 2: points eighty seven, six and two. That's for everyone except 526 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: the Bengals. The Bengals are one and four. That's right, 527 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: So like, if you score thirty eight, you should automatically 528 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: get the dub. The Bengals are one and four because 529 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: the defense is just abhorrent. It'll be interesting, like we'll 530 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: do some trade stuff, I'm sure this week, but like 531 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: after that, do they just say, you know what, ef it, 532 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 2: We're done. Let's just trade Hendrickson, get what we can. 533 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: We don't need this offseason drama. I think some teams 534 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: are going to be looking at cornerbacks, defense, pass rushers. 535 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: It should be a busy week. I know we always 536 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: say that it never really is. 537 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 538 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 539 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 540 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: listen live. 541 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the World Series, because you 542 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: know we don't do a ton on baseball. I readily 543 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 2: admit that I'm a casual baseball fan. And if you say, hey, 544 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: J Mack, I got Dodgers tickets, do you want to go? Yeah, 545 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 2: sure I'll go. We go with the family. It's fun. 546 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 2: I'm not like watching game ninety seven of the season. 547 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 2: I'm not tuned in. I don't know what's going on 548 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: with middle relief. Then when the playoffs come around, yeah, 549 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 2: I'll watch closer. Try to go to a game. I 550 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: definitely have the game on. This World Series was unbelievable, 551 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 2: But I don't even know what the best World Series 552 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 2: of my lifetime? Any any that the Yankees won? But 553 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: did Dodgers go back to Toronto down three to two. 554 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 2: They gotta throw Yama Monroo. He's lights out again. You 555 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: go to game seven still you're like, oh, we got Otani, 556 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: were in great shape. And then Otani gives up the 557 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: three run homer to bishit and it's like, oh, Dodgers 558 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 2: are playing catch up the whole game. It's just not 559 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 2: really happening. They keep clawing back, and then this guy Rojas, 560 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: who I don't even really know, I'm not familiar with 561 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: his game, he goes yard like the most unlikely hitter. 562 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: The whole all we were talking about heading into the 563 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: ninth thinning is yeah, so Tani gets to bat, yes, 564 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, we have a chest and Rojas comes 565 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 2: up and he's like pop Hi game, Like wow, and 566 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 2: then to win it in extra innings and Yamamoto came 567 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: in the day after pitching ninety six pitches, seals the deal, 568 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: gets a third win, gets the MVP. It was thrilling. 569 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 2: And now obviously I was at a Halloween party, you know, 570 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 2: with the wife or celebrating. Everybody's going crazy. It's awesome. 571 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 2: And then you know, I'm largely unaware of what's going 572 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: on on social media outside of the games. I don't 573 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 2: know if that's because the algorithm or what. But Rob 574 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: tells me, you know, a lot of people are pissed 575 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: off that this is bad for baseball, and I'm like, huh, 576 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: how is this bad for him? I mean, like, you know, 577 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: in the NBA, dynasties are amazing for the sport. In 578 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: the NFL, the Chiefs dynasty, the Patriots dodynasty, great for 579 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: the sport. And it's like, why would the Dodgers dynasty 580 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: be bad? 581 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: Oh? 582 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's no salary caps, so they spend 583 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: the most money and get all the best players. If 584 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 2: you don't like that, then why blame the Dodgers? Why 585 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: not change the rules? Well, that's not happening, right, They're 586 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: not gonna all of a sudden, but in a salary cap. Okay, Well, 587 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: is it unfair that Otani hit the market after leaving 588 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 2: the Angels and landed with the Dodgers? What's unfair about that? 589 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: Is it unfair that Yamamotor decided he was coming to 590 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: the US and the Dodgers were like, okay, we'll give 591 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: you three hundred and twenty five million dollars. People laughed 592 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: at the Dodgers for that. Oh, this guy's never pitched 593 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: in the BIGS. Oh that's insane. I mean, well, I 594 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: don't see what he did in the World Series. He 595 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: definitely worth every penny. So again, maybe it's just that 596 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: I'm unaware, Rob, but I found the Dodgers. Now. Listen, 597 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: I'm out here in LA. It's exciting. You know, everybody's 598 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 2: into the Dodgers. I thought it was exciting. I don't 599 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 2: think it's bad at all. If anything, I'm where I 600 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: think the Dodgers need to go out this offseason and 601 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: get some more bats. I mean, they really couldn't deliver 602 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 2: in the postseason, and that's I guess It's good and 603 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: a further piss off Major League Baseball. Huh. 604 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 605 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 4: J Back to your point, the Dodgers batted two oh 606 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 4: three in the World Series, the first mark by a 607 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 4: champion since nineteen sixty six. 608 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 3: Wow. 609 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 4: Over the last two seasons which the Daughters have the 610 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 4: Dodgers have went back to back World Series championships, they 611 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 4: have batted a combined two oh four in the World Series. Okay, 612 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 4: so this is not some juggernaut team. This is not 613 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, can you imagine anybody else other than 614 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 4: these guys winning it? No, what they have obviously, they 615 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 4: have several great players, but what they have more than 616 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 4: anything else, is they have guys who have come up 617 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 4: big in the biggest moments. And that's all you can 618 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 4: really ask for in the sport of baseball, Because baseball, 619 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 4: especially in the postseason, how many times have you said 620 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 4: coming in like, oh, well, this team is loaded, they 621 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 4: should win, and you know, the number seven hitter on 622 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 4: the other team comes up with a three one blast 623 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 4: out of nowhere. 624 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, that's what it is. 625 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 4: The Dodgers win this World Series trailing by one down 626 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 4: to their last two outs, and a guy who hadn't 627 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 4: hit a home run in over a month and a half, 628 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 4: who wasn't even playing in the series until a game 629 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 4: and a half ago, hits the game time home run 630 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 4: that flips it right. The Dodgers, who again had been 631 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 4: struggling batting the entire World Series, have one guy in 632 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 4: one game, Shoe Aotani, accounts for nine total bases or 633 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 4: reaches base nine times, walk five times, goes four to 634 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 4: four to two doubles, two home runs. Like one guy 635 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 4: flipped that whole thing. Yeah, Yamamoto, I believe historically, I 636 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 4: think it's only like six guys have won at least 637 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 4: three road games in the World Series. Like three pitchers 638 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 4: or six pitchers have won at least three road games. 639 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 4: He did three has three wins in one World Series, right, Like, 640 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 4: I don't understand how anybody can look at the Dodgers. 641 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 4: And I'm not saying this I live in LA because 642 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 4: my whole family Dodger fans. I'm saying, as I'm saying 643 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 4: as an objective sports fan, what they do is something 644 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 4: that every team should aspire to be. You should be 645 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 4: pissed off right now. If you're a Detroit Tigers fan 646 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 4: and we got reports saying, hey, it's a good chance 647 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 4: they're gonna trade schoobl who might be the best pitcher 648 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 4: in baseball, because they don't want to pay him the 649 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 4: money he's looking for. 650 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 3: Like, you should be pissed off with that. 651 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: You should be pissed off who's in the mix for him? 652 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 3: By the way, everybody anybody who has money. That's all 653 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,479 Speaker 3: the elites, the coastal elites, and the Blue Jays. 654 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 2: So what the Mets, the Yankees, right, blue Jays, probably 655 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 2: the Red Sox. 656 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 4: If it was as simple as who has the biggest payroll, 657 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 4: then why haven't the Yankees won in thirty years? Why 658 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 4: have the Mets haven't won the last five Because they've 659 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 4: been spending money like it's going out of style. The Dodgers, 660 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,959 Speaker 4: unlike a lot of these other teams. Yes, they have 661 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 4: big paychecks and big wallets, big bank accounts. What they 662 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 4: also have is a great farm system. What they also 663 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 4: have is they find discarded guys like a Max Muncy, 664 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 4: like a Tommy Edmin from other teams that just fit 665 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 4: what they're trying to do. They're able to tap in 666 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 4: and take risks that other teams necessarily aren't gonna take, 667 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 4: like some of the trades that they made as started 668 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 4: this whole run a couple of years ago, Like they 669 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 4: took on a terrible David Price contract so they can 670 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 4: get some better players, right, They, to your point, signed 671 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 4: Yamamoto three hundred and twenty five million, had never pitched 672 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 4: in a big league game and never likes. 673 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 3: Basically side unseen. Right. 674 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you had current pitchers at the time. I 675 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 4: think Dallas Braden was one of them. It's like, how 676 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 4: the hell are you gonna do that. That's a terrible decision. 677 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 4: That's just throwing money away. Like I haven't we learned anything. 678 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 4: It's like, no, they get the right guys at the 679 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 4: right time, and and more importantly, they get these guys 680 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 4: who seem to have a grittiness that most superstars just 681 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 4: do not have. Freddie Freeman, Mookie Betts, shoe A Otani 682 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 4: Yamamoto saying I'm gonna give you ninety plus pitches the 683 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 4: night before, then I'm gonna come and give you another 684 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 4: thirty to close the game. 685 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 2: Like that, let me ask Rob, Like, here's the thing. 686 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 2: So the Dodgers went out and got I'm sorry. The 687 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 2: Angels went out and got Otani, right yep. And they 688 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 2: couldn't really spend money to get anyone else. Well, I mean, 689 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 2: I guess technically you could, but I guess the owner 690 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: was like, hey, it's not profitable if I spend. 691 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 4: And we also spent on the wrong guys before that, 692 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 4: right Hams and Albert Pooholes. 693 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 2: So the Dodgers, you're right, have more wiggle room for 694 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 2: swing and miss when you're spending a ton of money. 695 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 2: The Angels don't. The Mets were like, basically, what's that team? 696 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: Oh? 697 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 2: Like North Carolina's Belichick, Hey, let's just go hit the portal. 698 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 2: Let's get everybody, let's spend all the money and they 699 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 2: just whip it together and it didn't work. But I 700 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 2: just I do wonder if do you think the rest 701 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 2: of the owners around the league would be upset enough that, hey, man, 702 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 2: we just can't hang. Let's all vote to have a 703 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 2: salary captay. Is there any chance of that happening? 704 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 3: Absolutely? You think that so freaking lotly? 705 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 4: Yes, because all of these guys, I mean, you know 706 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 4: this working in sports, the teams that are actually interested 707 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 4: in winning is maybe like a third in any league, 708 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 4: and then more than half if not the rest of 709 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 4: the league. It's just like, hey, how do we make money? 710 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: We make money? 711 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 3: How do we stay profitable? How do we stay in 712 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 3: the black. 713 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 4: And there's been reports even before the season what the 714 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 4: Dodgers are doing is unfair from the Rockies manager, from 715 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 4: the Yankees, this is unfair what they're doing, the way 716 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 4: they're spending this money. Like, are you kidding me, Brian Cashman, 717 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 4: you're gonna say that the yank the Dodgers are spending 718 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 4: too much money when the Yankees historically have wanted in 719 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 4: the highest spinning teams ever. And if you watch this 720 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 4: past World Series, Yes, the Dodgers won, but you cannot 721 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 4: say with a straight face that the Blue Jays did 722 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 4: not look like the better team throughout the series. 723 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:49,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were right there. 724 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 4: They had them dead to rights and just couldn't close 725 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 4: the door. The Blue Jays in this World Series had 726 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 4: twenty two more hits, scored eight more runs, and batted 727 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 4: over sixty points higher as a team and still lost. 728 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 4: So if the blue Jays. 729 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 3: Win, are the Dodgers still baff for baseball? 730 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: No? 731 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 3: Could they just freaking lost? 732 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's then narrative switched a goll goofy. Let me 733 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 2: ask you this. So I don't know enough about the 734 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 2: Blue Jays. So was this just an ultra charmed year 735 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 2: and they were that close they could just come back 736 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 2: and do it again, or two years ago were they 737 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: just not anywhere close to this? And this was just 738 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 2: kind of sort of I don't want to use the 739 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 2: word lucky. But everything went their way. I mean, the 740 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 2: guy who set the record for major League hits at 741 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 2: a postseason, I'd never heard of him in my life. 742 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 2: I mean, he just every time he came in to play, 743 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 2: he was like, oh he was like the eighth or nine, 744 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 2: ten or do you know what I'm talking about Clement. 745 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 3: Yes, well j Mack. 746 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 4: Just to give you some context, the Toronto Blue Jays 747 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 4: had the fifth highest payroll in baseball, So they're not 748 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 4: just some plucky team out of nowhere. That kind of 749 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 4: is someth The difference that they spent money exactly is 750 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 4: that Vlad was awesome and he and he just got 751 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 4: rewarded with the found mind of other contract. But he 752 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 4: played like a five hundred million dollar guy we should play. Yeah, 753 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 4: George Springer finally rounded in the form after a couple 754 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 4: of years with the team, like he finally looked like 755 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 4: the George Springer from Houston. 756 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 2: He's starting to break down though, It sounded like right. 757 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he got hurt there at the end. 758 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 4: But they have a lot of really good players, Like 759 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 4: they may not have the star power where like the 760 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 4: household names because the Dodgers are the Dodgers. But you 761 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 4: cannot say, if you know anything about baseball that the 762 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 4: Blue Jays are just happy to be there. They're just 763 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 4: a lucky team. 764 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 3: Like, no, they are a really really. 765 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 4: Good baseball team and they should have won the World Series. 766 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 4: It just didn't work out for them. 767 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 2: Would you say that the correct way to assess the 768 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 2: salary cap situation is it doesn't guarantee you victory, obviously, 769 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 2: but the more you spend, the better chance you have 770 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 2: of making in the playoffs. 771 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 4: The more you spend should theoretically give you a better 772 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 4: chance to make the playoffs. The problem is, if you 773 00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 4: look historically since two thousand and one, the team would 774 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 4: the biggest payroll has only. 775 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 3: Run it four times. If it was just about spending, then. 776 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 2: No, but I would, I would. I think a better 777 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 2: analysis would be And you know what, I'll dig into 778 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 2: chat GPT on this this week. Sure so among so 779 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 2: there's thirty teams in baseball, right, yes, among the bottom 780 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 2: ten spenders for the last decade, how many have made 781 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 2: the playoffs versus the top ten spenders the last ten years? 782 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 2: How many have made the playoffs? I would guess it's 783 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 2: probably two to one, maybe three to one, That is 784 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 2: just a guess. But like you know, I know some 785 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 2: of these teams at the bottom. Sure you'll have a 786 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: breakthrough and maybe catch lightning in a bottle and get through, right, 787 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 2: wasn't I forget? Was it the Tigers? I mean? 788 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 4: I mean, like you had the Rays make the World Series? 789 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 4: A couple of raised the Dodgers. 790 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 2: Like you get these one offs. 791 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 4: The Diamondbacks, I think last year or two years ago, 792 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 4: made a run at the World Series. They didn't win it, 793 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 4: but yeah, I mean, like, the thing is is that 794 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 4: what you see with a lot of these teams, And 795 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 4: it goes back to the other conversation is the worst teams, 796 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 4: like the team that don't spend anything. If you look 797 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 4: usually at their roster, it's loaded with these young rookie 798 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 4: contract you know, they were great in the minors and 799 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,280 Speaker 4: they're just they're really ascending, and then when it's time 800 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 4: to pay them, well suddenly they don't. 801 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 3: They can't afford it. 802 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, like, well you absolutely can. You're just choosing not 803 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 4: to because you have all these guys in the building. 804 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 4: Like Moneyball, if you watch that move, everyone loves the 805 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 4: movie with a rap pit, the focus is on like Hadiberg, 806 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 4: and its focus is on David Justice and the like 807 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 4: these other players. 808 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 3: Anybody who knows anything about baseball. 809 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 4: Is like, well, they also had like three of the 810 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 4: best pictures in the league at that point, who were 811 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 4: all young guys. And we don't want to talk about 812 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 4: that part because that. 813 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 2: Vez like Veto and Molder like that doesn't work with 814 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 2: the narrative. 815 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 4: The narrative was, well, we can't afford anybody, so our 816 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 4: team must be terrible. It's like, no, you had great pictures, 817 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 4: just eventually when it was time to pay them, you 818 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 4: were like, nah, not fan, can't do that. 819 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 2: I don't have any play on Monday Night football. Kyler 820 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 2: Murray's out. It feels like a soft benching. We may 821 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 2: have to talk talk about that this week. Jacoby Bresett 822 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 2: against DAK I got nothing on the game. I have 823 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 2: nobody in fantasy. I just don't need Trey McBride and 824 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 2: Aubrey to go off. I'm facing them. But I'm real 825 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 2: curious how much Lakers have you ingested? Now World Series 826 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 2: is over, you got a lot more time to take 827 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 2: in the Dalton connect, Jake la Ravia. I mean, the 828 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 2: Lakers can almost drought out an all white lineup, you know, 829 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,320 Speaker 2: led by Luca. Now Luca's back from injury. 830 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 3: They're the real exciting Whites. 831 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 2: I'll just say there's a lot of fun stuff happening 832 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 2: in the league right now. I mean, again, we don't 833 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 2: have time to get into it. But like the Indiana 834 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 2: Pacers have fallen off a cliff without Haliburton and Miles 835 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 2: Turner and company. Lakers look plucky even without Lebron. Obviously, 836 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 2: Wemby and Company look really, really, really good. There's just 837 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: so much happening in the league. Like there's guys coming 838 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 2: out of nowhere doing incredible things. Had you ever heard 839 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 2: of Ryan Rollins. 840 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 3: I've heard of him, but I wasn't familiar with his game. 841 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 2: But I know, oh, me look like an All star 842 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 2: out there. There's so many The league is amazing and 843 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 2: and you know we'll start to get into it more. Also, 844 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 2: college basketball tips this week. I got to figure out 845 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 2: how to like start to dig into those teams. You 846 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 2: guys know, I love me some college basketball. But so yeah, 847 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 2: no play on Monday night football. Did bet the Thursday 848 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 2: game Denver against the Raiders, already regretting it because you know, 849 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 2: this is what I do. I bet games and then 850 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 2: I think about it and I'm like, oh, I get 851 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 2: in my own head. Anyways, So yeah, back tomorrow, we'll 852 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 2: probably talk some hoops a little Cowboy. Now. The Cowboys 853 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 2: got to win this game tonight against the Cardinals, Like 854 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 2: I can't see them losing. Yeah, they should be fine. 855 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 2: I would expect fireworks if you asked me, Jake, I 856 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 2: got fifty bucks, you know, for for my birthday. Who 857 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 2: should I put it on? I would just say bet 858 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 2: the over. I think we'll see a lot of points 859 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 2: back tomorrow