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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one, episode four

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Speaker 1: of J Daly's Like Guys to production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness and say, officially, off the top,

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Speaker 1: fuck the Koch Brothers, fuck Fox News, fuck Rush Limbaugh,

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Speaker 1: fuck Buck Sexton, fuck Ben Shapiro, and fuck Tucker Carlson.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm brave, Jamie, I'm brave. Uh Thursday, I know?

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Speaker 1: Can he say? That? Is the question on everyone's mind?

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Speaker 1: Is allowed time? I just did? Okay? Um, so it's Thursday,

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Speaker 1: September three. My name's Jack O'Brien a k. Hey there,

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Speaker 1: Miles of gray. What's it like not being sweaty? I've

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Speaker 1: changed shirts five times already. Somehow still I smell like

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Speaker 1: a yeddie. Yes, I do. My clothes more wet than

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Speaker 1: mountain dew. I swear it's true. Hey there, Miles up grade.

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Speaker 1: Don't you worry about my short shorts, muscled thighs for

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Speaker 1: all to enjoy with pale skin and sweat. That glistened

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Speaker 1: shield your eyes looking directly is unwise at my blinding thighs.

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Speaker 1: That is courtesy of official Dickhead and I and thrilled

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Speaker 1: to be joined by my special guest co host, Jamie Left.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to make myself believe that COVID will end

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Speaker 1: in twenty twiney. But the second wave is coming and

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Speaker 1: we never left the first. We're never gonna and quarantine.

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Speaker 1: But I'm Jamie. That's really depressing from Will at Ultra Lantern.

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Speaker 1: I just really wanted to go into the nasal register

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Speaker 1: as early in the episode is possible. So thank you.

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Speaker 1: Get that vocal warm up in sound, Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing. It's been a while since I've

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Speaker 1: been on a podcast with you. The Latest in your World? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we were in Wisconsin for several weeks, uh, seeing

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Speaker 1: my boyfriend's family, well like self quarantine and then seeing

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Speaker 1: my boyfriend's family. Then now we have to self quarantine again.

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Speaker 1: But we were in Wisconsin when the shooting of Jacob

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Speaker 1: Blake happened, um in Kenosha, and then the wave of

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Speaker 1: protests that sprung up because of that, and then the

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Speaker 1: murder of the protesters. So we were fairly are a

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Speaker 1: few hours away when when all that happened. But um,

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Speaker 1: we went to the town over shortly after because that

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Speaker 1: it was it was. I mean, it's a horrifying thing

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Speaker 1: for that community to process. And at the Swing States,

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Speaker 1: so there, you know, it's having a conversation with my

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Speaker 1: don't know. I felt like I had a lot of

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Speaker 1: complete mind fuck. And then on the way home we

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Speaker 1: learned about the murder of Dijon Kizzie Um in South

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Speaker 1: And and fuck Trump for showing up in Kenosha to

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Speaker 1: weren't in we weren't like next to Kenosha. Um when

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Speaker 1: non swing states like Portland. Uh. Um, Well, we are

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined by the eloquent, the brilliant, the

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Speaker 1: super thrilled, And I know have like a satirical song

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Speaker 1: with a quick fuck Ronald Reagan? Yeah? All right that

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Speaker 1: I like to come out of the gate hot. So yeah, controversy, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people are going to disagree that.

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Speaker 1: of friends there. Man, it is it's nuts and you

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Speaker 1: We started it, you know, a little over two years ago,

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Speaker 1: is called American Hysteria. That's right, appropriately enough, Right, all right, Chelsea,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to know you a little bit better

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Speaker 1: in a moment. First, we are going to tell our

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Speaker 1: going to talk about the red Mirage scenario, which is

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Speaker 1: funded by Michael Bloomberg, and they think what is going

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the Department of Homeland Security nixing a

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Speaker 1: it was. Uh. All of that plenty more. But first, Chelsea,

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Speaker 1: your search history that is revealing about who you are? Well?

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Speaker 1: I uh, a few days ago searched cotton Mother, dinosaur bones,

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Speaker 1: it was pure laziness. Yeah, Chelsea, what is something you

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Speaker 1: uh if you watch this documentary, that he made a

424
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: sticker that said call Wrinkles uh and then a phone

425
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: number and the whole he created, this whole lord that

426
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: parents were calling in to discipline their children with him,

427
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: so I think, and it was all bullshit, like it

428
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: was just sort of like an avant garde you know,

429
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it art thing um. But

430
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: then you know it's it's a hysteria and that like

431
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: if you think of satanic panic like children like most

432
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: of these sightings, and it happened in the eighties too, um,

433
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: very similar, but of course it moved much slower because

434
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: of the internet didn't exist. But it was all over

435
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: the country, which is more interesting to me because it's

436
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: so hard to spread those you know, those ideas and

437
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: those urban legends. But Um, yeah, he he did that.

438
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: And then I think that what I was saying is is,

439
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: you know they all come from about seven year old kids,

440
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: and when you're a seven year old, you know, you

441
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: can make up anything. Like in the Satanic Panic. It

442
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: was like their teachers were flying around the room and

443
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: you know, they were being flown to Mexico and put

444
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: in kittie pools full of sharks. And everybody took this

445
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: really really seriously because you know, it was a time

446
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: when when assaults and sexual abuse of children was finally

447
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: kind of coming to the forefront. But then it went

448
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: too far and everybody believed everything that a seven year

449
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: old said. Um, and as you know, I can remember

450
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: being a kid, and there was this whole controversy where

451
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: these two girls were chased by a man with a

452
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 1: scar on his face, and you know, all these letters

453
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: went home saying that this was true. It was on

454
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: the local news. It turned out that they just were

455
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: going to be late getting home, and they made a

456
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: story and it just got like madly out of control.

457
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine the stress of that. And then, um,

458
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: you know, and then I just remember being like, oh yeah,

459
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: I saw him. Oh absolutely, he was doing this and this,

460
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: and you know, I saw him in the woods, and

461
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: that's just what happens as kids like one up each

462
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: other and then the parents find out or they tell

463
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: the parents, and then the parents take it seriously, like men,

464
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: we're shooting their guns just into the woods, just straight

465
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: up into the woods because they thought they heard a

466
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: weird sound and their kids had said that a clown

467
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: lived in a shack in the woods. So there's a

468
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: metaphor for it. Sounds like a metaphor for something. I

469
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: don't know. It sounds like Q and On shipped to me.

470
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: You know, that's really interesting. The point about it was

471
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: a time when you know, it was being acknowledged that

472
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: children were being abused, and you know, after the seventies

473
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: where it was just such a creepy decade in terms

474
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: of uh, you know, like pedophilia was like a mainstream

475
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: like thing. Um and but like it just reminds me

476
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: of the two prongs of the Q and On thing, where, yes,

477
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: there's a massive problem with human trafficking and sexual abuse

478
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: of minors that is being uncovered with the Epstein thing,

479
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: and it is in the upper echelons of society, but

480
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: it's not But could there be anything more counterproductive into

481
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: addressing that than yeah, exactly, well, and then you can

482
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: just like what better villain is there? Right that Q

483
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: And you can't create a better villain than a satanic pedophile,

484
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: Like there is no thing at society could more loath

485
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: and collectively loathe together. So it's such it's such evocative

486
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: thing to build a movement around because it's so hard

487
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: to say, oh, well, that's not happening, and so it's

488
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: just this very it's just a terrible thing. And the

489
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: upper echelons, of course, are just as guilty of crimes

490
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: against children as any other sect of society. Like we

491
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: act like this is you know, like n of childhood

492
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: sexual abuses happening by people that they know that the

493
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: child knows. And so it's this other sensational thing that's like,

494
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: here's where abuse is happening, so we don't have to

495
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: deal with where most abuse is happening. And so it's yeah,

496
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: it's bombed. Alright, let's take a quick break and we'll

497
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: come back and talk about your myth. And we're back,

498
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: and Chelsea, we like to ask our guess what is

499
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,239
Speaker 1: a myth? What's something people think is true? You know

500
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: to be false or vice versa. Well, you know, and

501
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have talked about this.

502
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: I think you might have. But just memory and what

503
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: we think of as memory is so interesting to me

504
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: because it couldn't be a more fallible thing. Uh, And

505
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: I think we were. We think of our memories as

506
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: as set in stone, like they're filed away in a cabinet,

507
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: and you recall them at any moment as if they

508
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: are perfect and unchanging. But really you can. You can

509
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: implant false memories. We know about that from the Satanic

510
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: panic and and Christian psychotherapists, that we're really leading people

511
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: into having these memories that turned out to be completely false.

512
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: But I don't know about you guys, but I have

513
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: memories that I know didn't happen, and they are so

514
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: like clear and vivid. I have this memory of being

515
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: shot at by my crazy neighbor, which is absolutely untrue,

516
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: but I remember down to like the bullets hitting the tree,

517
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: and all it was was my friends saying that it

518
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: happened and me being like, oh yeah, yeah, totally totally.

519
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: And now I have this visceral memory and it's a

520
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: problem in like eyewitness testimony it's you can make things

521
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: up with any suggestion. If someone said, oh, I think

522
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: he was wearing a blue shirt, You're like, yeah, I

523
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: think he was. And it's it's just such a dangerous

524
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: thing to trust our memories the way we do, and

525
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: then we get like the Mandela effect, you know where

526
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: it's like, you know about the Mandela effect. Yeah, we

527
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: have talked about. Yeah, I'm sure you know where an

528
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: entire group of people wants to like rewrite history to

529
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: prove that our memories are right, or they'll create a

530
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: whole story like like you know that there's two universes,

531
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,479
Speaker 1: which means there but um, you know, and and so

532
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, we're just so scared of our memories

533
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: being being incorrect that will will kind of like write

534
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: a whole mythos too. For the handful of listeners who

535
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: don't listen to every single episode. What what is the

536
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: Mandela effecture, It's it's the idea that um, at some point, well,

537
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: the Mandela effect to start is basically a group false memory.

538
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: And uh it came from uh Nelson Mandela's apparent funeral

539
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: procession that everybody remembered that didn't happen because it was

540
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: a mixture of things, like they remembered when he got

541
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: out of prison and sort of like the celebration around that,

542
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: but really like it's more about stupid ship from the nineties,

543
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: like Berenstein Bears is the most famous that most many

544
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: people remember it being spelled Stein s T e I N. Right, yeah,

545
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: and uh, but then it's actually s T A I

546
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: N and it's drawing. I'll tell you. It jarred me.

547
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: It shook me because it's like I remember I remember

548
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: it being the other way. And then there's like that

549
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: that uh what like the the peanut Mr Peanut wears

550
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: a monocle. Oh no, no, it's all just all these

551
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: dumb things, little things that that people remember differently. Um,

552
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: there's a great list of them. They're all escaping me

553
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: right now. But uh. And then the idea that there

554
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: was a separate universe and some of us came into

555
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: the other parallel universe where it's different. Yeah, we switched over.

556
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: So it's it's silly, but it's also weird because we

557
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: do have masses of people remembering the same thing that

558
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: didn't happen, and that's just super weird and interesting to me.

559
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: There's also been there's been some real I I don't

560
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: know how current it is, but there was research at

561
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: one time that indicated, like the memories that you visit

562
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: very frequently are like become less reliable over time the

563
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: more you visit them. Of like, every time you revisit

564
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: a memory, you're kind of opening to slight alteration depending

565
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: on you know, what was your perception of the event,

566
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: how are you feeling, how do you feel about it now?

567
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: Like memories are are changeable in some to some degree,

568
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: which I thought was interesting. There's a psychologist named Elizabeth

569
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: Loftis that I think I asked you when we first

570
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: met if you were related to her or if you

571
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: were secretly her um but has done a bunch of

572
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: work on, uh, implanting benign memories in people's minds, like

573
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: that they had been in hot air balloons, and memories

574
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: of seeing bugs Bunny at Disney World, and just various

575
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: things that are just by mere suggestion, the people are

576
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: able to really like put themselves like put a concrete

577
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: memory in their in their brain that never happened. But yeah,

578
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: there's also a study where people we're basically asked about

579
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: a memory immediately after the event happened and then further

580
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: down the line, and the more they told the story,

581
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: the further it got. And like basically if they added

582
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: a detail or something that was incorrect about I think

583
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: it was the challenger explosion that then became part of

584
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: the memory because every time you remember some thing, you're

585
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: essentially retelling the story to yourself and you're adding all

586
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: these different details. Um, it's like a memory of a memory,

587
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: a memory of a memory of a copy of a copy.

588
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: Family have done a lot of work on this. So

589
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: the loft is uh yeah, yeah, well ship, this has

590
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: been one of the most interesting, uh getting to know

591
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: you sections of the show. Now we're going to have

592
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 1: to rush through the news, but that is fine because

593
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: everything we just talked about relates to the news in

594
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: many very interesting ways. Sorry, I talk a lot. No,

595
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: it's it's the you are. You are at the very

596
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: heart of the things that I'm so interested in, Uh

597
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: that we do this show every day. Well that's why

598
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: I loved Cracked. I mean, you guys were such an

599
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: early influence on the show. I try to work for Cracked.

600
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: Did you really? But it's fine that I didn't know. Yeah,

601
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: it's a long con but it's cool to be here,

602
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, that's it. At first. Honestly, Jack, when

603
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: you put the red mirrage scenario in the dock, I'm like,

604
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: is this a way of saying that Joe Kennedy lost?

605
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: So that is the first story, and also the mirage scenario. Yeah,

606
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: it's like the Pelican brief, the red mirrage scenario. Um.

607
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, there, it's just a data firm that is

608
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: kind of solidifying a description of what's going to happen

609
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 1: on election night that we've sort of talked around. Um.

610
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: But it's basically that pep Trump's votes on election night,

611
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: Like the note, the votes that will be tallied on

612
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: election night will reflect a shocking, supp rising, huge Trump

613
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: landslide victory, and then as more votes come in over

614
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: the course of the next four days I think they're

615
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: estimating is going to take to tally up all the

616
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: mail in ballots, it will switch to a pretty definitive

617
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: Biden victory. And I am unfortunately certain that the mainstream

618
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: media is incapable of dealing with that sort of volatility

619
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: in any sort of measured or disciplined. Well, yeah, they

620
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: will flip the fuck out the moment it seems like

621
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: Trump has won and then Trump will use that momentum

622
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: to declare victory, uh, and then we'll have a toe

623
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: hold to delegitimize the mail in ballots. So this is

624
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: a very scary scenario that they said they based on,

625
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of pulling that was done, you

626
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: know together. It wasn't just like their individual poll I

627
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: think they based on some five thirty eight uh, composite polling,

628
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: which is scary sum. So I don't know what to

629
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: do about that other than just prepare and acknowledge that,

630
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 1: you know, keep preparing the public for this possibility, because

631
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: otherwise it's just gonna you know, we we saw it

632
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: in a very kind of minor way with the two

633
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen mid terms, where it was like, there's gonna

634
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: be a blue wave. Has like the blue wave never happened,

635
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: and then over the course of a week, as more

636
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: votes came in, they were like, the blue wave did happen.

637
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: We just needed to count the votes. Yeah, it turns

638
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: out right, Yeah, this is one of those many scenarios

639
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: that are coming up that it's it is much like

640
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: the postal service just feel so helpless in terms of

641
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: like what is a direct actionable thing you can do

642
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: about this. But I do think that there's definitely is

643
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: some value in just kind of bracing yourself and understanding

644
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: what the possibilities are in Yeah, I mean passing the

645
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: info along because this I don't know what we can

646
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: do to really stop this from happening other than understand

647
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 1: and not panic when it does. Right, But there will

648
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: be an attempt by the Republican Party to use those

649
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: early results to just sweep everything else under the rug,

650
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: like no doubt. Yeah, that possibility is being underrated by

651
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: the mainstream media's reception of this kind of study. They're

652
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: just kind of being like, Wow, that would be wild

653
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 1: because there would be four days in which we're wrong.

654
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: But then everything will you know, come out in the

655
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: wash and it's like, no, that's not going to happen.

656
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: They will try to invalidate any results that are different

657
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: from what they have On election night, Trump will be

658
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: declaring victory, uh for three straight days. There will be

659
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: a large victory celebration as the other results are trickling in.

660
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: Assuming this scenario happens, there's a DHS warning that Russia

661
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: is basically saying the same thing the Trump administration is

662
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: saying about Joe Biden's mental health and mental capacity. Uh.

663
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: And when this warning was going to go out to

664
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: law enforcement officials and more local officials, it was basically

665
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: withheld by Chad Wolf, Acting Secretary of Homeland Security. Chad Wolf. God,

666
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: these names, Chad Wolf, these names? You got Wolf? He

667
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: define only answers his phone, is you got the Wolf?

668
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: Chad sounds like like a character that like would be

669
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: on one of my mom's shows. You know, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, okay,

670
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: Chad Wolf. We've talked before about the l A County

671
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: Sheriff's office being implicated in just a number of white

672
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: supremacist gangs, and you know, for killing killing people like

673
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 1: just all sorts, all sorts of ship. It's yeah, they

674
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: were two l A County Sheriff's officers. I don't even

675
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: know the wording for that shot a man who they

676
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: had stopped for a bicycle violation, which, first of all,

677
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: what the funk is a bicycle viola top to bottom?

678
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: This is just absolute horseship. It makes me so angry.

679
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: There's no who gets the like, It's just it couldn't

680
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: be more mask off like targeting right. According to eyewitnesses,

681
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: they continued to shoot him while he was on the ground,

682
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: shot him in the back, kept shooting, they say over

683
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: twenty times. The sheriff's officers account is that he had

684
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: dropped a gun and was going to pick it up.

685
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: But even they aren't saying that he had the gun

686
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: like when they shot him twenty times. And they also

687
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: left his body on the street for hours after handcuffing

688
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: his dead body. Um. So this is also we we've

689
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: talked about how we're really seeing, like the cases that

690
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 1: are breaking through are only the ones that happened on

691
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: a video that somebody is like taking direct foot age

692
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: of of the thing happening. Um, And otherwise it's just

693
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: like this, this is basically as close as we've seen

694
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: two uh something breaking through without a direct video of it.

695
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: But I feel like the videos we've seen tell us

696
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: a lot about you know who, who's telling the truth

697
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: in these scenarios. So the name of the man who

698
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: has murdered is di gen Kizzy, and it just like

699
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: it couldn't be more I don't know. I mean, like

700
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: the l A County Sheriffs are a gang. They operate

701
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: exactly like a gang. Um, and it's it just is

702
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: sanctioned by the law. I knew a number of people

703
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: who went down to protest before they had even removed

704
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: the man they murdered body off the ground, and it's

705
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: it's there. There's a lot that's already been written about it,

706
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: but basically there's an overlap between some of the l

707
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: A County sheriff involved in this murder and other murders

708
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: of people, including an eighteen year old just a couple

709
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: of months ago. And and and so it's just it's not

710
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: just the same department. It's literally the same people that

711
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: are perpetrating this over and over and over and then

712
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: are just staring protesters in the face and you know,

713
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: just blocking anything they were shining. I mean, it's kind

714
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: of reminds me of a lot of the tactics being

715
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: used in Portland. They're shining lights into the crowd so

716
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: that protesters cannot get video of what they're doing, so

717
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: you don't know what's happening at all. It's unconscionable that this.

718
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: It just makes me so I don't know, I mean,

719
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: a bike violation like fuck you, it's it's yeah, so

720
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: like you said, there's video, like we only see what

721
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: there's video of. And we also when we talk about

722
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 1: police violence. I think people immediately think of murder, which

723
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: is a very important thing, but there's so much violence

724
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: that doesn't result in murder, right, There's so much violence

725
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: that the police officers commit against you know, black men

726
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: and women that is never going to you know, because

727
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: you can complain, but a copy we've seen him have

728
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: like twenty complaints against him before he kills somebody, and

729
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: and then you know, and even even mass incarceration and

730
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: all of these things that are included in policing that

731
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: we also aren't fully talking about in the mainstream. I

732
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: know that people on the left are are really interested

733
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: in dissecting this police state and all the things that

734
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: that go with our justice system, but like you said,

735
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: it's like we're only getting like the tip of this iceberg,

736
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 1: this horrifying iceberg, right, yeah, yeah, exactly, And and one

737
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: of the and this happens in most scenarios that are

738
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: similar to this, and unfortunately there's so many of them.

739
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: But what what is the outcome of the situation this

740
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: This murder is being investigated I the Los Angeles County

741
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: Sheriff's Department, So you're just having murderers investigate their own murder,

742
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: and so what the fund do you think they're going

743
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: to turn up? I mean, it's we've we've seen it

744
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: happen so many times at this point, but that, yeah,

745
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 1: this was just a fucking he was on a fucking bike.

746
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 1: Like it's just I don't know. Yeah, Um, let's take

747
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: another quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back. Uh.

748
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: And there's a prominent opponent to Vladimir Putin, Alexey Navalny,

749
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: who has been poisoned. And uh. One of the details

750
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: that's getting kind of underlined in this story is that

751
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: they used uh nova choke, which is a deadly nerve

752
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: agent that like it's sort of Putin's calling card. I guess,

753
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: mm hmm. I feel like it's fairly common knowledge that

754
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 1: Putent has people murdered who are publicly in opposition to him.

755
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: I found there there's at least direct evidence that he's

756
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: had twenty one journalists murdered since he took power twenty

757
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: years ago. And that's just subcategory journalists. So Alexei Novalny,

758
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 1: as far as I know, was not even a journalist.

759
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: He was a campaigner who made something called the Anti

760
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: Corruption Foundation, who was publicly basically investigating the wealth of

761
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: Putin and his inner circle. This is information of getting

762
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: from the Guardian. How where does the money? You know,

763
00:48:54,239 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: follow the money? But so yeah, navalni was pway isn't

764
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: uh in his t I guess um, And yeah, it

765
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: was just kind of revealed that it was this specific poison.

766
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: And I have a quote from one of his associates,

767
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: Landed Volkov, who said, choosing Nova Chuck to poison navalny

768
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: In is basically the same thing as leaving an autograph

769
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: at the scene of the crime. So this has just

770
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: been such a popular use of getting rid of the opposition.

771
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's I mean, as we were talking about

772
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: serial killers earlier, and this is kind of was like,

773
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: oh this is his signature move. Um that I think

774
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: is you know, used as a warning to other people

775
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: who are doing similar work. So um, yeah, just scary

776
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: Putin news r I P. Navalny that I mean, yeah,

777
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: this is this is a name that it's like, you

778
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: know who an advance ants is going to be poisoned

779
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: or killed by Putin. I knew this name ahead of

780
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: time as the person who is probably going to be

781
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: poisoned by Vladimir Putin soon. Like that's it's just so shameless.

782
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: Did he die or I think he's being treated or yeah,

783
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: I don't think he is confirmed dev as of this recording. Um,

784
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: so he was, Yeah, he was hospitalized in Siberia after

785
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: drinking some tea. Then he was flown to Germany. He

786
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: is not. Yeah, but there's no quotes from him, so

787
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: we don't really know what state he's in, right, Yeah,

788
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: and Putin has complained that there aren't any cool buttons

789
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: with his face on it. Well, I'm sure, right, Yeah,

790
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: we are actually just tower than he would prefer. Yeah,

791
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: button adoption is what he's striving for. Let's talk about

792
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: jet packs. So over the weekend, two pilots who are

793
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: coming in for a landing at l a X uh

794
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: spotted a guy flying or a human flying three thousand

795
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: feet up in the sky. Uh. To put that in perspective,

796
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: that's over twice as high as the Empire State Building. Um,

797
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: it's higher than I think the tallest building in the world. Uh.

798
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 1: And so they both saw this person and then uh,

799
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: you know radioed in. You can listen to the radio

800
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: report where it's just uh, they're like, there's a some

801
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,479
Speaker 1: somebody with a jet pack about three thousand feet off

802
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: up in the sky. You know, a couple of feet

803
00:51:54,000 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: man calling himself Jimmy neutron is call is claim and responsibility.

804
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: Oh I thought, I have never seen Jimmy neutron, so

805
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: I did not get that. But I apologize. Um, But

806
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: this is one of those things where it didn't make

807
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: sense to me until I really thought about how high

808
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: that is and how you wouldn't like, you wouldn't be

809
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: able to see that from the ground. You wouldn't be

810
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: able to see a person three thousand feet up in

811
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: the sky from the ground. It would just be like

812
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: a tiny little speck in the sky. That's one of

813
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: the things that I keep wondering is like, why are

814
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: pilots the only ones who are seeing these UFOs when

815
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: they're flying around? Um, and they're so high up and

816
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: so comparatively small, or can be so comparatively small that

817
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: I guess you just would have to be You would

818
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: have to be in a plane and happen to be

819
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 1: passing by somebody flying a jet pack to the This

820
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: is a good old fashioned weird ass story. Like what

821
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: what he could he breathe up there? Yeah, okay, you

822
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: can breathe with so he was just like, was he

823
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: wearing a mask, like what he was wearing a clown mask? No? Ye, Nixon,

824
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: Nixon clown mask. Oh my god, I don't Yeah, I don't.

825
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say. Sure, okay, that's

826
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: that's what he says. Then it happened. Yeah, yeah. I mean,

827
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: so the ocean is unexplored and point three billion cubic

828
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: miles of ocean. The air is one billion cubic miles,

829
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: so we basically have no concept of what is ing

830
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: around through the air because it's just like so far away.

831
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: We wouldn't be able to see it unless you're you

832
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: happen to be passing through that portion of the air.

833
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: I guess is what this story made me think about

834
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: is like, so it's just my skepticism at UFOs has

835
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: been like, yeah, but we would have seen them, And

836
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: it's this story made me think more about like not

837
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: necessarily because you're so far away from them and you

838
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: only have like a line of sight on a very

839
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: small patch of the sky and only like something that's

840
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 1: very close to you. If they're that's smart, they probably

841
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: don't want everybody to see them, you know. It's like

842
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 1: the story of the Illuminati where they're hiding in plain

843
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: sight and like putting all these secret things in justin

844
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: Bieber videos, and it's like, yes, they would want to

845
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: be a secret. You probably want to be a secret. Yeah. Yeah,

846
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm stumped. I'm stumpumped. In regards to the jet packs,

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Speaker 1: there's so earlier this year, a jetman, a jet Dubai

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Speaker 1: thousand feet of his name was Jetman. Of course he

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Speaker 1: has to be of the Dubai Jetman's but flew nearly

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Speaker 1: six thousand feet up using a jet pack. But the

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Speaker 1: flight lasted three minutes. So basically the problem with jet

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Speaker 1: packs has been that you can't have enough fuel on

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Speaker 1: you to stay up in the sky for very long.

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Speaker 1: I think there was jet Pack Aviation, which is based

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Speaker 1: in the San Fernando Valley, so I'm looking at looking

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Speaker 1: at them around this story, but they claim to have

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Speaker 1: invented what they call the world's only jet pack, which

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Speaker 1: can reach up to fifteen thousand feet in altitude and

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Speaker 1: can be operated for about ten minutes. But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's weird. There was I remember the story back in

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Speaker 1: two thousand ten where somebody was like, yeah, we've done

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Speaker 1: basically those same or similar statistics where they claimed they

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Speaker 1: could fly around for thirty minutes and then people actually

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Speaker 1: went and looked at them. It was an Australian company

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Speaker 1: and they could only fly six ft near six fight

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Speaker 1: right exactly, otherwise known as a trampoint. Yeah, yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm interrupting with my excitement over moon shoes. Remember no,

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Speaker 1: they weren't. The thing is that the commercial made it

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Speaker 1: seem like you were going to jump like ten ft

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Speaker 1: in the air, but you jumped like it was Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you jumped a less side than you are. Ultimately a burden, right,

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Speaker 1: they wading down to Earth a reminder of gravity. It

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Speaker 1: was for something. Yeah, I like that. That's nice a

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Speaker 1: Nickelodeon metaphor. Oh Jack, you gotta watch Jimmy Neutron. I know,

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Speaker 1: I feel like your kids would really enjoy it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: is it p G r G? That is actually a

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Speaker 1: distinction of matters. That's a good question. I think it

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Speaker 1: is G. Yeah, and it's all the parents go away,

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Speaker 1: so look out. But then it turns out they need

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Speaker 1: their parents. Spoilers, good propaganda, big parents. Jet Pack Aviation

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Speaker 1: has their founder U quote in this New York Times article.

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Speaker 1: The New York Times, by the way, this wasn't like

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Speaker 1: from the Daily Mail or whatever they said. Honestly, we

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Speaker 1: don't know who's working on a machine that would be

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Speaker 1: foolish enough or reckless enough to do that. Um, so

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Speaker 1: they are claiming it's not that. Um, no one knows

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Speaker 1: what to do with the jet pack. Does it's a

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Speaker 1: death wish man go with that high chicken with a seven?

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Speaker 1: It seems unlikely, But I don't know. I'm no expert.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, well, Chelsea, it has been such a pleasure

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Speaker 1: having you on the Daily Zekegeist. Where can people find

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Speaker 1: you and follow you? You guys can find American Hysteria

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Speaker 1: on any podcast platform. Uh, and then we have Instagram

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Speaker 1: at American Histeria podcast and Twitter at a mayor Hysteria.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's where you can find me, Chelsea Webersmith

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Speaker 1: dot com. Mostly we do podcasting. Music has has fallen

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Speaker 1: away because all I do is read about Cotton Mother

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Speaker 1: and uh Ted Bundy all day every day. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd love I'd love for you guys. Yeah, our show

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Speaker 1: is different because it's scripted, um, but I hope that

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Speaker 1: it's it's funny and terrifying and interesting. That's what we hope.

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Speaker 1: So it's different than the show, but I think it's

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Speaker 1: got the same kind of heart and core. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: is there a tweet or some other work of social

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Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying? Man, I know this is cheating

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Speaker 1: because it happened a bit ago, But I was in

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Speaker 1: and I came back and my partner was like reading

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Speaker 1: the news while I drove, and you know, uh, someone

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Speaker 1: had tweeted. Former pool boy describes years long sexual relationship

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Speaker 1: with Jerry Folwell Jr. And wife And I came out

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Speaker 1: of the woods and like, I was so overjoyed at

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Speaker 1: this news, Like it filled me with such just absolute

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Speaker 1: pure bliss um because of course yuck um too, not

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Speaker 1: to not to this unorthodox type of relationship. That's great,

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Speaker 1: do what you want, but you know, while while maintaining

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Speaker 1: this ridiculous facade, and you know, Jerry Folwell Senior has

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Speaker 1: always been on the top of our ship list um

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Speaker 1: on our shows. Just killed me to experience joy that

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Speaker 1: kind of reminds me. The way you describe that reminds

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Speaker 1: me of Jared leto be like being in his cult

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Speaker 1: for two months and then coming out and being like

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Speaker 1: Covid whom like best I mean, terrifying that he has

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Speaker 1: a cult. But that news item was really funny. God,

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Speaker 1: I want to do an undercover into that cold What

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Speaker 1: a dream? Now more than ever, Now, more than ever, Jamie,

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Speaker 1: where can people find you? Ons tweet you've been enjoying. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you can find me in all the usual places at

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Speaker 1: Jamie loftus help on Twitter, at Jamie christ Superstar on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to shout out one of my bff, Julia

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Speaker 1: Claire's tweets at Oh Julia Tweets. It's referencing um, the

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Speaker 1: Joe Kennedy defeat and Massachusetts this week. So she says,

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Speaker 1: this is easily one of the funniest things I've ever read.

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Speaker 1: And she's quote tweeting a politico some really powerful political

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Speaker 1: spin going on. So it has a picture of sad

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Speaker 1: Joe Kennedy and then it says, in losing his Senate race,

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Speaker 1: Joe Kennedy the third has freed his family from a

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Speaker 1: political burden it has struggled to congratulations. Was like, oh, right,

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Speaker 1: that was that he was trying to escape It wasn't

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Speaker 1: that Kennedy has never lost in Massachusetts before this week

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Speaker 1: and people can't deal with it. It's actually he was

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Speaker 1: trying to escape. And then Hayes Davenport replied with a

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Speaker 1: gift of the Genies cuffs coming off. It's just funny. Um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's all I have to say. Uh. Poor Nancy Pelosi

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Speaker 1: that she was hoping that her friend Joe would come

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Speaker 1: on the floor and they could clap together for press

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Speaker 1: so well. A couple of tweets have been enjoying. People

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Speaker 1: were tweeting this image of Jamal Murray and Donovan Mitchell

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Speaker 1: like hugging after this amazing series where they combined to

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Speaker 1: score the most points by a pair of players in

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Speaker 1: a playoff series in NBA history. Uh, And they're hugging

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Speaker 1: because Jamal Murray's team, the Nuggets just beat the Jazz

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Speaker 1: and and Donovan Mitchell's crying. Uh. And Joseph Flynn tweeted

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Speaker 1: Mitchell sobbing, I hate living in Utah so much, man, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Which I think it's funny if that's what he is

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Speaker 1: trying about. Uh. And then bar Mellow's Anthony Uh just tweeted,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why, but this ship is that funny

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Speaker 1: and it's uh. Somebody put a Al Green photograph like

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Speaker 1: the shirt list like doing the fingergun al Green photograph

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Speaker 1: over the w and Walt Green's uh. So it just

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Speaker 1: says al Green's uh. And that is one of the

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Speaker 1: great pieces of public art I've seen. So well done.

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Speaker 1: God bless Uh. You can find me on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: our footnotes were linking to the information we talked about

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Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as the song we ride

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