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Speaker 1: M mister Andre Gower joining the show. So pumped to

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Speaker 1: have you on today.

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Speaker 2: It is sorry about that. I have a little link

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Speaker 2: back and forth. So the link, the link not getting

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Speaker 2: that's how.

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Speaker 3: I would have said it to So don't worry about that.

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Speaker 4: That's that's the technical portion of the show. That's where

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Speaker 4: we talked about the tech stuff. But that's that's that's

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Speaker 4: only a small sample of what we have to offer.

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Speaker 2: That's correct. I'll email everybody the code that I just

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Speaker 2: wrote up to fix it all.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's a pleasure to meet you. Thank you so

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Speaker 5: much for coming on today. We're very excited to talk

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Speaker 5: to you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no problem. How are you doing with all the quarantine?

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Speaker 3: You're out in l A right?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Is there a Actually I got I got a little

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Speaker 2: smart for a little bit. We came to visit in

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas for a while while LA was going crazy.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and get away for a little bit. So currently

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Speaker 2: basking in the hot sun in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 3: And and how is it out there? Are you?

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Speaker 2: It's no it's way up on on the other side

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Speaker 2: of town. Okay, up on the west side.

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Speaker 5: Nice, well, enjoy enjoy your time there. So let's let's

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Speaker 5: start talking about you. So you started acting at age five, correct?

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Speaker 2: I did, yeah, which was a bazillion moons ago.

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Speaker 5: Yes, well, okay, so I'm dressed in my agies is

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Speaker 5: hire just so you know, because I really don't do

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Speaker 5: this every day, just because you have, I see you

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Speaker 5: looking at me a little weird.

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Speaker 1: This is something we should have prefaced it at first.

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Speaker 3: Like this, I had to watch a tutorial on how

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Speaker 2: And stuff, and it's rad.

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Speaker 5: So age five, did you have parents that were kind

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Speaker 2: Of an age. That's a that's a yeah, that's kind

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody at five actually kind of has

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Speaker 2: and then you can either decide if you're interested or not.

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Speaker 2: Five I was pretty tough to you know, be up

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Speaker 2: go into quantum mechanics.

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Speaker 1: Today and then like shut up, go away, right.

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Speaker 2: My actual, my actual entree into it my sister, who

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Speaker 2: She worked quite a lot during the early you know,

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Speaker 2: And it's cool because, you know, I ended up working

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Speaker 3: Right, So you're.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, probably Young in Wrestles, which was you know,

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Speaker 5: Right, And do you feel like going back if you

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Speaker 5: can remember auditioning. That's a lot of pressure for such

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Speaker 3: You have to read your lines and read with other people.

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Speaker 5: Nowadays, child anxiety is a big thing and a lot

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Speaker 2: I think it's definitely one of those factors there is.

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Speaker 2: And that's also another thing. If they're not really comfortable

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Speaker 2: I think I was fortunate enough to where I just

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Speaker 5: But you you were not the type of kid to

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Speaker 2: For the most part, when I wasn't actively working on

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Speaker 4: Okay, So like when you were five, you were auditioning

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Speaker 1: A monster squad because I was ready to take.

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Speaker 4: A journey into the place where I should have been

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, speaking of being a kid actor and a child,

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Speaker 5: Lots of stuff was going on back then, lots of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, sad, Yeah, I saw all these pictures and I

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Speaker 2: You to me, to me, it is. I don't think

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Speaker 3: I'm glad. I like these kind of stories better than no.

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Speaker 5: I was a drug addict, I was an alcoholic, I

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Speaker 2: Was that stuff around? Sure? Were there groups of people,

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Speaker 2: cameras rolled in the twenties, you know that, you know,

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00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 2: which is one hundred years ago now, which is crazy.

440
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: It's really changed that much except for some awareness in

441
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 2: the last ten years that people are actually talking about

442
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 2: is starting to create a little bit of change in

443
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: conversations or behavior. But elements and everything always there. It's

444
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 2: just how you navigated how you respond to it. I

445
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 2: think a lot of times, honestly, especially when I was young,

446
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:39,719
Speaker 2: because I also had a you know, when you're working

447
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 2: as a professional at a young age, you're also around

448
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 2: older people more than you would normally be as a

449
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: kid that's not in the business. And so I was

450
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: always around adults, always around older kids, young adults, and

451
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: people my age, and so I got to experience very

452
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: early a bunch of different types of people and a

453
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 2: bunch of different you know, exposures to things, and I

454
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: think that helped, I don't think, and I think I

455
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: was also just kind of you know, honestly, I was

456
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: you know, when I was really I was probably scared

457
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: of you know, you know, oh my god, you're going

458
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: to have to drink a beer. Oh you know, you're

459
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: not supposed to do that. But you know it's you know,

460
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: just as long as there's support around and you've got

461
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: a decent level head on you, you shouldn't have too

462
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: many problems. But look in any segment of a human

463
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: community or you know, a society, you know there's going

464
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: to be you know, issues with certain people. And I

465
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 2: don't think it matters what they're doing. I think those

466
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: people might have had problems in life regardless whether they

467
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,239
Speaker 2: got into you know, golf course management or you know,

468
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: airplane mechanics or something. You know that. Yeah, you know,

469
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 2: I think it has do a lot of upbringing and

470
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: structure and then exposure to things and not being able

471
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 2: to handle it. And that's where it's unfortunate. But it's

472
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: it's kind of bad that you have either older people

473
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: or outside influ instead. I don't want to say prey

474
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: on kids because that's not that's something where I'm going,

475
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: but that would, you know, foster sort of that you know,

476
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 2: kind of environment for younger kids in the business. But

477
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 2: you always have that element no matter where you are,

478
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 2: whether it's your your kind of you know, your country five,

479
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: you know cousin that's like, hey man, come on, let's

480
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 2: jump to the truck and go drink a six back

481
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: down by the river, you know, which is fun as hell.

482
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 2: But when you're ten you probably shouldn't be doing that. Yeah,

483
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: I would at least way to your fourteen to go

484
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: with you.

485
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: You get better thinking.

486
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 3: Then chat isn't he isn't he like me?

487
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

488
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 5: You're you're me because rest all of my colleagues, well,

489
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,479
Speaker 5: now I shouldn't say all.

490
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 3: There were a lot of my colleagues who.

491
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 5: Were hardcore drugs, hardcore alcohol and I and I was

492
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 5: on the road with them for seven years and I

493
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 5: never did any of that stuff. So it's kind of

494
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 5: when I hear you speak, it's kind of although I

495
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 5: was twenty when I started, so I wasn't ten, but

496
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 5: I never got into that lifestyle either, So listening to

497
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 5: you talk just reminds me of me, so to speak.

498
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like the same story.

499
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: Very similar. Absolutely, Yeah, I do think.

500
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure, and I'm certainly not you know,

501
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: besmirching or putting down any other place, but you know,

502
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 2: I think it's I've never and I've gotten a little

503
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: candid sometimes in interviews or writing stuff or responding to something,

504
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: but I will always defend the younger, the kid in

505
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: the conversation because it's usually never their fault. If anything

506
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: bad happens, it's usually never it's usually not their fault.

507
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: It's either outside you know, third parties, or their family

508
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: or their parents that are that that that either allow

509
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: it or foster it. And those are things that I

510
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: read that really gets me kind of burned up a

511
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 2: little bit, because I think that's unfair.

512
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 3: Understood well, boy, because.

513
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 4: I was just going to say that you were looking

514
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 4: at some of those like teen Beat, Tiger Beat pictures

515
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 4: in cross referencing with your old issues to see if

516
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 4: you had come across Andre hit some of those.

517
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: That's what I was trying to interject.

518
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 5: I had some of those magazines because we're age where

519
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 5: you and I are basically the same age.

520
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: I'm forty eight year.

521
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 2: And look those I can't imagine what it would be

522
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: like because I had quite a bit of exposure in

523
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: you know, what would be media and press and and

524
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: those magazines, but there was no Internet right or social media,

525
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: and I cannot imagine the difference of trying to navigate

526
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: that world with an Internet around as a kid. Frightens

527
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: me out of my skin, really, And that's why I

528
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: think you have It's just I mean, it was hard

529
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: enough back then, but I can't imagine it today with

530
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: the Internet and the things that we have access to.

531
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,719
Speaker 2: It's just because you like, take a team magazine, like

532
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: maybe you'll runt an event and they take a photo

533
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: of you, or you're at your house doing a photo

534
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: shoot for a feature edit or something You're not seeing

535
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: that for a probably about a month or two, you know,

536
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: because they've got to go to print. You're at an

537
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: event and someone takes a photo of you, the entire

538
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: world sees that about twenty eight seconds later.

539
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

540
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I'm not going to beat it over the

541
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 4: head with nine thousand questions about the Monster Squad because

542
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 4: you have.

543
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: You have answered countless amounts.

544
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 4: Of Q and A questions that anything I could have

545
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 4: ever thought a million years you've answered. So I threw

546
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 4: out my I've been watching it since and I'm an

547
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 4: og Monster Squad rental man from back in the day.

548
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 4: I didn't see it in the theater. I saw it

549
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 4: on video, like the second it came out. No, no, no,

550
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 4: nobody did what he did. Blockbuster didn't come into my

551
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 4: neighborhood until the nineties. We had Mom and Pop show,

552
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 4: so I used to rent the tape all the time.

553
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: It was a reward. It was always the go to right.

554
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: So I love the movie. The thing I find fascinating

555
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: is the renaissance of the movie because when it came

556
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: out on DVD, finally I got it on DVD, like

557
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,719
Speaker 1: the week it came out. That never saw the DVD

558
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: ever again. But for you, just seeing the immense popularity

559
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: grow from about the mid two thousands to now, it

560
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: is unbelievable. And I'm sure all these years.

561
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 4: Later still you kind of shake your head and say, out,

562
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 4: did this film not resonate then and grow to the

563
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 4: monster it is now for this awesome movie.

564
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: It certainly was surprising but very interesting when that started,

565
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: and it all started from one event. But kind of

566
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: the answer to your question, I mean absolutely, I mean

567
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: it was to see that actually happen and it started going.

568
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 2: We thought it would go away. You know. We had

569
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: that initial cast re union screening at the Alamo Draft

570
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: House in two thousand and six, the spring of two

571
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: thousand and six, and that's what sparked the fire. And

572
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: a year less than a year later, or no, about

573
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: a year later, they announced that Lionsgate was doing the

574
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: DVD and we did the interviews for that. We didn't

575
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: even know that was happening. We got surprised at a

576
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: convention because Michael Felcher was there to do the special

577
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: features and we're like, no one told us that this

578
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: was doing. Thanks for calling our people, But I honestly thought,

579
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: and we honestly thought, like you know, Ryan Lambert, Nashley

580
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: and I because we would always we started appearing together.

581
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: After that event. We were like, oh, this is kind

582
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: of neat, you know, you know, interesting that it's finally

583
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: getting a little attention and wow, there's some people out

584
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: there that really like it. We thought that would last

585
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: maybe a year or two. It's only it's only it's

586
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: only still doing this and after a number of years,

587
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: about ten years of that, you know, to kind of

588
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: answer your question what it was like, the only way

589
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: that I could respond to what was going on was

590
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: to figure out a way to tell the fan because

591
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: it was all about the fans' stories. You just told

592
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: me your origin story and why Monster Squad was connected

593
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: to you. It's the Mama Pop Video store. That's where

594
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: you saw it. That was your go to. It was

595
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 2: a reward, so it has positive, nothing but positives in

596
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: your childhood for you. And you connected with probably one

597
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: or more of the characters, whether they're part of the

598
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: Squad or part of the Monster Crew. You know, you

599
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: figured out somewhere that you probably connected with the adventure story. Right.

600
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: It was over a number of years that I kept

601
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: hearing exact stories like yours and others that were similar

602
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: bit different because they were more you know, they were

603
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: individual or group things. They just kept coming and coming

604
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: and coming and coming, and I realized that this is

605
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: sort of a very unique dynamic, and whatever is happening here,

606
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: I don't really hear about it with other movies. And

607
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: it started to become fascinating to me. So I was

608
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 2: really interested in absorbing being the information sponge that I

609
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: am hearing more and more of these stories. And then

610
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: I would engage those fans and try to find out

611
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: even more and to find out that this movie connected

612
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: with them at some point. It's very rare that they're like, oh,

613
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: I saw that movie and I love that and I

614
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: just revisited and it's still cool that happens. But when

615
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: they connect, they are tethered to this movie for some

616
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: reason for the rest of their life.

617
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: Hardcore fan.

618
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: And that's what I thought was interesting. It wasn't just

619
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: oh my god, I love Ghostbusters. It's so funny. I

620
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: got slimmed and I love Ghostbusters. Everybody's going it's great,

621
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: it's fun movie. But Monster Squad fans, whether they saw

622
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: it in the theater, there is you know, like eleven

623
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: of them or on HBO HBO the next year, which

624
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: gained a huge audience, because HBO even knows that that

625
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: was a huge view of thing in the summer of

626
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: eighty eight when it finally came out for a number

627
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: of dynamic latch key kid reasons and stuff like that.

628
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: But and then or your video store where you could

629
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: go and have personal access to it, and then you

630
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: could take it, chill it to your friends and be like, hey,

631
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: come over to my house. You got to watch this movie.

632
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 2: So those are the three ways people connected and found

633
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: this movie. First, the only way I could figure out

634
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: how to understand that dynamic was to make a documentary

635
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: about that dynamic. The documentary is not about us. It's

636
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: not aware are they now. It's not a making of

637
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: the movie doc because they've done that, And it's not

638
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: a it's not a fan service doc. It's not like, oh,

639
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: you know, just look at all this you know, fan

640
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: bait stuff, you know, to get you all you know,

641
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:06,719
Speaker 2: you know, wiggling in your chairs. It's the documentary was

642
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: trying to examine and analyze the connection and the relationship

643
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: that the fans had with them. However they found it,

644
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: and so we have to go into all of those pathways,

645
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: and then the history of everything of wherever they found

646
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: it and how they were affected by this movie, because

647
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: the documentary is about the fans and the connection they have,

648
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 2: which made this movie live for over thirty years now

649
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 2: when it died in nineteen eighty seven.

650
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just so you know, I connected with the

651
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: scary German guy. That's who I connected perfectly.

652
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: The old weird outcast that no one faces. You know,

653
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: if you go into his house, you think your toast,

654
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: but he ends up being a hero, so good. It's

655
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: a good character and connected.

656
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: This has brought new lights into you.

657
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 5: And you guys are still doing the convention circuit because

658
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 5: I'm thinking you guys were probably at something that I

659
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 5: was at.

660
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: We were talking about this before, like a Chiller theater

661
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 3: or a monster Mania.

662
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 5: I do those a lot, and I noticed, like with

663
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 5: with the wrestling, we can do conventions until we're one

664
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 5: hundred years old, like.

665
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 3: It just never ends. You keep keep going.

666
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 5: You enjoy doing these conventions and talking to fans.

667
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: That's the way. That's the vibe I'm getting correct, I do.

668
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 2: I ENDU. Now. Granted, there's better, better, better conventions out

669
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: there than others. Some are amazing summer. You know, some

670
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: are fun. I love the smaller ones when people are

671
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: starting out. I think the convention world itself off a

672
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 2: little tangent about starting about ten years ago, started to

673
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 2: become what conventions used to be was someone that loved

674
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: something so much that they wanted to celebrate it, and

675
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: so they got some people together and then found a way.

676
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 2: And it was always sort of regional or either even

677
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: town specific, right, something like Chiller or even Dave's you know,

678
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: Dave Hagen's Monster Mania, you know, sort of a regional

679
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: thing and if you were in that region, you went

680
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: to that show, and if you were in Texas, you

681
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 2: went to this show. But then people started traveling and

682
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: it became this big thing, and then big brands and

683
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: bigger thoughts, you know people, They conventional world kind of

684
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: got walmarted, It got big boxed a little bit, and

685
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: people started making those giant things and go bigger than ever.

686
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 2: And the used to be very specific and very regional,

687
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: very mom and pop almost right, and that's what was

688
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: I love that aspect, and I started to see the transition.

689
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: It got a little kind of out of hand and crazy,

690
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: and it got a little superficial, and it it got

691
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 2: to be about who you had there and not about

692
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 2: who you were selling badges to, not about your attendees.

693
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: And that's always wrong. If you're putting on a show

694
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: that's not about the people buying your access badge, then

695
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 2: you're doing it wrong. If it's just about what the

696
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 2: rest of the world see. And if you don't treat

697
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: your people on the floor right, or your fandard, or

698
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: you overcharge them or you nickel and that it get

699
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: the money got crazy with how much I felt people

700
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: are having to pay so much to get into a show, right,

701
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's not what this is about. Yeah,

702
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: and so I saw that change. But yes, I do

703
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: enjoy doing those shows one because you go and you know,

704
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: it feels good when people line up and want to

705
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: talk to about me. Look, we're all we all have

706
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 2: the you know what that is. That's the same as

707
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: the you know, someone hitting the like on a post

708
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: that hits that you know, kind of dopamine section in

709
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: your brain, and of course you like it. Everybody likes attention.

710
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 2: You know, we wouldn't be performers if you weren't a

711
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: little bit of a narcissist. And if you can't admit it,

712
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: then you don't understand what you're.

713
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: Doing, right.

714
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: So but as long as you you know, you kind

715
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 2: of you know, you kind of regulate that and understand

716
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: and appreciate it. I have fun with it. They're great.

717
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: There are a lot of work. You get tired as

718
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: hell because you have to be on all day long.

719
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: And one thing that I always try to do at

720
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: a convention, and Ryan and I used to what we

721
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: ended up doing was we teamed up. We became like

722
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 2: a duo brand together, so we were repped and we

723
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 2: would you know, we would do our agreements and our

724
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 2: appearances together and we would be in the same booth.

725
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: We wouldn't separate ourselves, which just made it cooler. And

726
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: I don't see a lot of people at conventions do it.

727
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: And it's usually the people I'm like, why are you

728
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: at this convenue? Why are you here? Like you're not

729
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: having fun and you're not giving a shit with the fans.

730
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: But the difference is that, Yeah, I've always tried to

731
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: whether you have fifteen or five or one hundred and

732
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: five people lined up waiting to meet you, and you're

733
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: there for six seven hours a day, by the you know,

734
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: twenty thirtieth person you're going to be. You know, your

735
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 2: wagon's going to be dragon, and you're going to be

736
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: a little bit kind of bored or tired of like,

737
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: oh my god, yo, when's this going to end? But

738
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: I always bring it back to the person standing in

739
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: front of you. This may be the twenty fifth person

740
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 2: you've talked today, but this is the first and only

741
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: time they're ever going to talk to you exactly, So

742
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: you have to make it.

743
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an awesome way.

744
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 2: You you I've really tried to concentrate on making it

745
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: like they're the first person through the door. And you know,

746
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: Bryan and I really resonate with that. Ashley does a

747
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 2: great job when we're together, and it's just that makes

748
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: it more fun. And I think the fans are like,

749
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: oh my god, that was such a great experience because

750
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: I can't stand being in a convention. I'm looking across

751
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: the floor and seeing some celebrity whoever I'm not going

752
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: to name names, when they're just sitting at their booth

753
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: and they're like.

754
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 3: Thanks, you are me.

755
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: Thanks. I've watched celebrities, giant film stars who I don't

756
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: know why they're at a pulp culture convention because one,

757
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: they don't need it and they shouldn't be they're not

758
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: having fun, but they're getting paid in the giant of

759
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: parents be to sit there and being asshole for right.

760
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's where that's where these conventions are wrong.

761
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: But when they don't even look up at the person,

762
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, what's the point of that.

763
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 3: They're on their phone. They're on their phone and they're.

764
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: Signing great things. They won't like, look, we shouldn't be

765
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: touching anybody right now. But I know a couple of

766
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 2: celebrities that do that that they won't even touch people

767
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 2: when they're taking you know, you know, or be near

768
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: them when they're taking a photo. They won't shake hands.

769
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: They won't even like a dap, you know, they'd be like,

770
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: oh my goodness.

771
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: Chair stand behind them something.

772
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: Like that, right and YEA, Like now, you know, there's

773
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: different reasons for not touching people, and in addition to COVID,

774
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: but you know there's yeah, you know, I just think

775
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 2: it's a it's it's a personal experience that these fans

776
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: have and I think you owe it. Look, they're waiting

777
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: in line and paying a lot of money to come

778
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: and talk to you. You owe it to them to

779
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: give them at least ninety seconds.

780
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 3: You are.

781
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 5: I'm so impressed because you have the exact same mentality

782
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 5: that I do.

783
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 3: Am I wrong.

784
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 4: The money and you can tell too. I could sorry,

785
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 4: and you could tell with all the stuff that's out there.

786
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 4: He when I said, there's nine thousand questions because they're

787
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 4: doing Q and as like crazy and they're so fin

788
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 4: interactive that yeah, it's very reminiscent of you when you're

789
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 4: one of the very few cognizant wrestling world people. That

790
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 4: is exactly the way Andre is talking about. So I

791
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 4: give you two both thumbs up from the from the

792
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 4: fan point of view.

793
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: So good job.

794
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: But it's nice.

795
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 5: It's nice that it's it's to me. It's nice that

796
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 5: you're not fake about it, because I've even said it.

797
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 5: Even if you don't enjoy it, you're being paid to

798
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 5: be there, So act like you're enjoying it, right, Put

799
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 5: on a smile, play your part, play your character. I

800
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 5: genuinely enjoy these things. I will stay extra if if

801
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 5: it helps make the guy that brought me in more money.

802
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 5: I stay until the very last person leaves. You know,

803
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 5: I'm never the one to run out of the I

804
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 5: want to stay. I want to help the promoter that

805
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,959
Speaker 5: brought me in, and I want to give the fans

806
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 5: a good experience. So hearing that story from you makes

807
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 5: me so happy because it's you're you're a good person,

808
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 5: and it shows you're not just phoning it in.

809
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I'm glad we're of the same mind there,

810
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: and maybe we can you know, maybe that can be

811
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: a contagion for people that go to I think most

812
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 2: people do a good job. I understand. Look when you're

813
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: look if you've been on anything Star Trek or something

814
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: like that. I mean, this is a you've got to

815
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: have some sort of you know, kind of mote between

816
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: you and the and the actual you know, craziness that

817
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 2: could happen. I get that. I'm fortunate enough to where

818
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 2: it's not as crazy or fervent and people really get

819
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: connected with you. And look, there are there are I

820
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: mean a couple, you know, handful of fans that I

821
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: met very very early on the you know, convention world

822
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: or whatever that I feel that, you know, we can

823
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: still stay in touch, Like we don't hang out at

824
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: the you know, at the taco stand, but you know,

825
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: they'll hit you up on Twitter and just say hi,

826
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: and I'll say hey, you know, has your daughter or

827
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 2: something like that. You know, and and and that's very cool.

828
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: I think I like the balance that I have where

829
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 2: it's not too big, where I can't manage it, because

830
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: if he gets too big, then you actually have to

831
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: step back and you can't care about it. You're just

832
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: servicing it to a certain level. But where I find

833
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: that deep connection because look, I did a lot of

834
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: other stuff. Ryan did a lot of stuff. When he

835
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: gets a lot of kids incorporated, you know, fans coming

836
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: and I have to sit and watch him sign kids

837
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 2: and stuff and then and then I make come up them,

838
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: so it's it's awesome. But he was the two.

839
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: Guy on there, so he gets a pass.

840
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, and you see these people and

841
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 6: but that's what enabled me to hear all those stories

842
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 6: that I realized that was something was very interesting that

843
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 6: turned into the documentary.

844
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 3: So that's awesome.

845
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 5: Well, you seem like a well rounded person and down

846
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 5: the earth, and I.

847
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: Really like that about you.

848
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 5: Can you just tell our fans where they can find

849
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 5: you on social media so they can come follow you

850
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 5: and enjoy your.

851
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: Yeah on Twitter and Instagram. On Twitter, I am at

852
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: Andre Gower and on Instagram I am Andre Gower Official,

853
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: because there's some other Andre Gower on Instagram somewhere, and

854
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: you can follow the documentary which is at the squad Doc.

855
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 2: I'm right, I'm looking at paperwork next to my computer here,

856
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: which has to do with distribution of the documentary, which

857
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: has been delayed, you know, two different times over the

858
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: last year and a half. So we may be making

859
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: some really good announcements here very soon, So please follow

860
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 2: squad Doc or follow me and look those you know,

861
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: announcements coming very soon, hopefully.

862
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 4: I miss you when you were in Winchester for JAA.

863
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 4: I'm about an hour from Winchester and I was wasn't

864
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 4: that in the tail end of twenty nineteen. I was

865
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 4: like fairly recently and I did we have family thing

866
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 4: going on?

867
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: I was bummed. But this close, that's close?

868
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, that sucks. Yeah. I love going to

869
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: Winchester because you wouldn't think that there's an Alamo draft

870
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: House there, and then there is. And it's one of

871
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 2: my favorite ones. Andy Garrison runs that one as the

872
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: creative manager. But I went twice in the last couple

873
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: of years. One Ryan Ashley and I actually did seventeen

874
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Speaker 2: cities in seventeen days during the thirtieth first summer and

875
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 2: we ended it in Winchester. And then two summers ago.

876
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 2: Are sorry, not last October, the one before that, one

877
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: before sorry last October. Last October, I knew we did.

878
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: I did twenty two alamos because I took the dock

879
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: on an Alamo tour because the dock was finished, and

880
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: I set it up with the Alamos again and ended

881
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: up in Winchester at the end run of that. And yeah,

882
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: I did twenty Yeah, I did twenty twenty one or

883
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 2: twenty two Alamos on that run. So's I've been a

884
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: road warrior with this a little bit. And I love Winchester.

885
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: I love that part of the you know, part of

886
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 2: the world. I used to live in North Carolina for

887
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 2: years and years. Nice not too far from a lot

888
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: of my home base, well second home base, and things

889
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: like that. We got to catch you on the next one.

890
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: Dude, I would. I was so bumped. You have no

891
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: idea because when I saw it on the list, when

892
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: I was like looking up the doc you know, back then,

893
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I was like, it's the closest

894
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: one to me. About an hour away. You know it was.

895
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: I'm not happy.

896
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 2: But if this world starts turning and the doc comes

897
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: out released and I start doing more appearances with that, hopefully,

898
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: you know, that'd be nice. Otherwise it'll just be on

899
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 2: you know, on Spot and streaming and buy Blu rays.

900
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: So maybe we'll just get your Blu ray of the

901
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: dock at some point and then we'll all come over

902
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 2: and we'll we'll go to your house and we'll have

903
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: a we'll have a we'll have a like watch party.

904
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: Book it love no, I appreciate it.

905
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 5: Thank you wherever on the same show, I will be

906
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 5: sure to come and say hello. Absolutely yes, and thank

907
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 5: you so much for coming on. We wish you continued success.

908
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 5: I mean I love hearing these type of stories and

909
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 5: hopefully the doc will take off and.

910
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: You know, oh I appreciate it. I will. I will

911
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: keep you updated as well. Please stay in touch with me,

912
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 2: and like I said, if any fans have any questions,

913
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: just you know, you know, hit me up on social

914
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: and I'll try to get.

915
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 3: To follow you. I'm gonna go follow you right now

916
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 3: as soon as we're.

917
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 4: I'll put those thousand questions in an email. You just

918
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 4: get back to me whenever you have time. Don't worry

919
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: about it.

920
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: Here's I know you've got to load it up. Give

921
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 2: me at least one. Now, what's one that you.

922
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: On the spot? Well, I was telling Frantine how you were.

923
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 4: You were up for Rudy originally and you were not

924
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 4: going to be shown, and then you end up being Shawn,

925
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 4: which I kind of find it funny. The question I

926
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 4: have is that if you could have put yourself in

927
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 4: the Rudy shoes, those you know, very cool pat and

928
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 4: leather shoes set on, I think the Shawn character would

929
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 4: have been as stable as you made it, because you

930
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 4: really brought Sean to life versus.

931
00:47:58,600 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: I mean Rudy.

932
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 4: I mean, I know you could probably do it. I

933
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 4: see you as Sean after, you know, watching it a

934
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 4: billion times.

935
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah. I I never auditioned.

936
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 2: I never read one line of dialogue from Sean during

937
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 2: the audition process because up to that time a big

938
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: body of my work on TV and stuff was the

939
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 2: cool kid with a leather jacket and awesome hair and

940
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 2: a lot of hair product. And I went and an

941
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: auditioned for for Rudy. You know, thought you know, it's

942
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: just a regular audition. Thought I did good, called back,

943
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 2: call back, screen test, all that, and then got a

944
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 2: called and said you were cast in that movie you

945
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: read for, but not the role that you read for.

946
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: And usually that means something worse. It usually means you're

947
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: getting a smaller role. But they said that they cast

948
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: you in the lead instead. And I was a little

949
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: bombed because Rudy's you know, Rudy's the goal character. Right.

950
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: But I know, you know, especially after years and years

951
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: of you know, talking about you know that that specific

952
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 2: kind of month and time, I know, Ryan went in

953
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: there and rocked out that audition, and there was and

954
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: there was another Rudy. But I think everybody's in the

955
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 2: exact same place. This is you, right, that's it.

956
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 3: Okay, I just followed you.

957
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: It's just so frantz, you know.

958
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 4: So Ryan Lambert goes into the audition and basically he

959
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 4: bums a cigarette off of the guys making the movie

960
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 4: and they basically were like, uh, yeah, that that's that's Rudy, right,

961
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 4: Isn't that basically how how it went down.

962
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ryan went in there, sat down cool, you know,

963
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: cool as he is, and I think he looked at

964
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: Shane Blacks. I think Shane smoked at the time or

965
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,439
Speaker 2: something and said, hey, man, can I get one of those?

966
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:44,479
Speaker 2: And they're like, no, wait what maybe and then Ryan

967
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: ran the scene and I think, I think that's what.

968
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 2: I think, that's what did it?

969
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 3: Who knew? Well you had to do? Is bum a cigarette?

970
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.

971
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's just one of many. I know it's

972
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 4: what you know, Pad to throw that out there. But again,

973
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 4: you know, thank you for.

974
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: Coming on and thank you for so many years of

975
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I've loved the movie. It's nineteen eighty eight

976
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: and it is it's a constant. So, uh, this is

977
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: a big thrill for me. I appreciate you. Thank you

978
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: very much.

979
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 2: Yes, well, look, I appreciate your contacting me, and I

980
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 2: hope I hope your you know, your your audience enjoyed it,

981
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 2: and I hope you guys enjoyed it. You know, I'll

982
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 2: come back in time. I appreciate it.

983
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Speaker 1: I appreciate thanks.

984
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 3: Andre, continue success to you. Okay, thanks appreciating it every day.

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