WEBVTT - EP 446: The Box Theory (ft. Jodie K. Taylor) 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:01.800 Welcome to Decisions Decisions. 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:04.480 I don't think you should say decisions decisions. It sounded 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:06.040 like you was talking to Kurston. 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:08.120 You definitely say to welcome. 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:09.400 Welcome to the new podcast. 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:13.560 Oh wait, you want to say together decisions Decisions. 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:17.320 Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Decisions Decisions. 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:18.759 I'm your girl, mad e b. 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:23.560 We have to be very proper. I'm your I feel 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:25.599 like we have like a and you're from Boston, but 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:26.480 southern Bale. 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:29.160 I have a You have a New England girly here. 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:30.880 Oh is that the New England vibe? 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:31.880 Yeah, it's a new England. 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:33.000 Are they proper? 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:34.600 Yes? I went to private school. 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:36.879 All I know is if y'all watching these holes on 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:41.520 the YouTube, they sat up and they got these little 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:45.160 demure dresses on, and I'm over here looking like a foster. 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:47.960 I look like a backup. You're not going this right now? 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:49.400 No, No, this fits the vibe? 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.400 Yeah, no, look good. Yeah, I look like if this 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:54.920 was a girl group, I'd be the rapper. That's what 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.560 I agree. That's what it's we're giving three O. 0:00:57.760 --> 0:00:59.920 W oh wait, I thought you were gonna say TLC 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:06.240 because it's given given, so we I don't know when 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:08.160 you met Jody, but maybe we met at the same time. 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.360 I met Jody and Can for our first time. We 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.440 went and I think the bathroom and I was like. 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:15.280 No. 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:16.839 I was like, oh my god, because I'm. 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.319 Obsessed with you, but like that love a good bathroom na, 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:21.479 because you don't really meet people after and even though 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:24.640 we haven't hung after yet, but I find that, like 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:28.840 the bathroom moment always ends, and I really appreciated that. 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:30.640 When I started to see your videos later, I was like, 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.480 oh the girls. Girls energy is real, because sometimes meeting 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:35.720 people in the flesh is a little bit of a disappointment. 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:38.039 So if y'all are here because you followed Jody, she 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:40.200 was kind of the same period. How do y'all know 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:40.600 each other? 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:43.000 I don't know. I did see you and Can. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:46.200 We were on the gary V yacht. I think, oh wait, 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:50.000 it was yeah, not the gry V yacht. It was 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.320 the I know I saw you outside of that. It 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.520 was the one with was it the one where Lucky 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:55.040 they perform? 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.520 May I saw you at CAN. You looked great. Oh 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:01.440 thank you that you can be having about eleven afarol 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:02.000 sprits to me. 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:06.200 So it's like I gotta get the number, and everyone 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:07.960 from CAN I have to meet back up with when 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.560 I come to the States. Otherwise that week I meet 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.280 so many people. It's so many like that's all you do. 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:13.320 All Yeah, that's. 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.560 Actually one of the events where I wonder if you've 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.760 ever dropped it. We're gonna ask you later like where 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:19.640 to set the social scheme. But that's when I would 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.160 put up there. 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.120 To me, CAN has been like, first off, it's now 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.520 on my list for the rest of my life until 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.440 they start pushing those niggas out. But it's it's one 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.160 of the places where it's been so easy to meet 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:37.120 other like minded professionals. And to me, just because you're 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:40.560 out there, you black, everyone's dressed to the nine and 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.720 everyone is there just to have a good time, and 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:44.680 that when you are having a good time in another 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.480 country with someone else, you want to bring that energy. 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.920 Different too than experiencing Like for anyone listening Can's lines festivals, 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.160 what we're talking about it is a creative festival. It 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.800 feels different than afrotech to me because for some reason, 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:00.440 when you're that far, yeah, it's a different like, oh, 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:02.160 it's a different vibe. And not only that they know 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:05.160 that the job you're holding must already be something, yes, 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:07.600 or if you are an influencer and starting out like 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.560 you've made it this far. I think sometimes the other 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:12.560 ones can feel a little bit too convention y, like 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.239 too desperate, too, like I need something. I saw a 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.919 lot of bad reviews about Afrotech, and I don't know why, Like, oh, I. 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.440 Know a thousand people going No, it's just because black 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.760 people love to talk shit about our own things. Like 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:26.800 they do it with and best fast, they did it 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.440 with essence, they do it with like and I literally 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:33.640 talked about this on selective ignorance. There's it's frustrating to see, like, 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.640 the more things that we create of our own, right, 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.360 we need funding, we need people to give us money. 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:43.800 Baby Di is already gone. So the fact that we 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:48.000 want to shit on our own, you know, things that 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.680 we're creating for ourselves, what it's really doing is hurting 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:53.680 the ability or opportunity that we may have to find 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.960 funding or get sponsorships, because maybe if the black people 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:58.520 don't believe in it, how we gonna get the white 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.600 people to believe in it to cut checks. 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.280 So to me, that's the bet wards being stepped up. 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.119 I was really they stepped it up and then got 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:07.520 rid of soul train and hip hop. 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.200 So it's like, yeah, I do believe black people are 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:14.200 hyper critical, but it's because I don't think they feel 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.240 like they have agency. And so when you don'teel like 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.760 you have agency to do, then you only have agency 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:19.360 to critique. 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.120 But how you can take our own ship. Clearly we 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.400 have the agency too, and we see people getting bigger 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.240 and bigger and bigger, and it's almost like a bit 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:31.480 of some hate, like you also don't want to see 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:35.800 your own gear and black people excel beyond the thing. 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.480 How you feel like white ice is colder And that's 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:41.719 why I probably said Kansas bad as shit there it is, 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.839 Oh my god. Okay, Jody, Jody Taylor, we just started 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:46.839 reading bios on the show. 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:50.120 I ain't gonna hold you. We've eve been killing the biles. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:52.520 I'll say this is what we got, Bawn. 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:57.520 Okay, Jody, don't your native who is called New York 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:01.279 City home for the past decade? Is it distinguished leader 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:04.600 in the corporate strategy and digital influence space. A modern 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:09.919 day aspirational figure providing unparalleled access. OOH embraces too and 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:14.159 transparency into the concept of the glow up lifestyle and 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:18.320 being on an intentional journey of growth self betterment. With 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.440 a strategic and empowering approach, she is inspiring women to 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.360 embrace new habits, elevate their ambitions, and become the best 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:27.320 version of themselves. Sorry, now I want to say, it's 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.279 not just your TikTok and ig stuff, because this is 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.800 to be the Jody effect in person, right, which is 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.520 so adorable. So traphouse open. First week, I was like, 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:39.360 Jody com she comes through Brionda text to group chat. 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.640 Oh my god, there's a girl so hot here, and 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.200 I'm gonna trust that you reader to come all the time. 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:49.880 And when we started talking about just maybe the aesthetic 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:51.800 of people coming in, how to market to people, she 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.080 was like, I want one hundred JODI's I want more 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.960 c suite beautiful women. I want powerful black women. I 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:58.599 want to feel it when they come in the door. 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.480 Because sometimes we're out and we meet someone that has 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.000 a job but you can't tell. And one of the 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.080 things that you've talked about is like leveling up and 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:08.919 how you're carrying yourself, how you're dressing, which for me 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.320 doesn't look the same because I'm an entrepreneur that doesn't 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:16.000 have that esthetic. And it's like sometimes I've watched those 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.320 videos and felt a little bit invalidated in the younger 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.520 years of entrepreneurship, like I do this thing, or I 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:23.640 talk about sex and needing to like own it is 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:24.880 all also part of the power. 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:28.480 So I don't wait question for you though in terms 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:29.360 of feeling invalidated. 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.320 Tell me a little bit more about that, or we 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.599 think about what our god damn book, Okay, tell it. 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:36.839 We don't get supported, we don't get asked to inswer 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:37.400 certain space. 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.000 And you think it's aesthetic, it's because we're sexually liberated. 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:42.000 It's because of the time I see it. And so 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:43.640 the problem that. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:45.640 I've been having, and it's funny because I just had 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.840 an episode shout out to Ashley cop who's a sexpert, 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.120 it's the same thing. It's like we're battling with the 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:56.559 freedom to exist as C suite entrepreneurs and all these things, 0:06:56.800 --> 0:07:01.159 while also having the space to own our own autonomy, 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:04.640 which is being taken away from us through laws, and 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.960 then also just being able to be happy with how 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:12.320 we're existing right and we're getting the issues from brands, 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:16.960 from corporations, and then also from other black women even 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:20.120 within the space. And it's what I'm realizing too, is 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:23.640 just like, damn, how much hard can I bitch? New 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:26.600 York Times bestseller now means nothing even to our goddamn publishers. 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.520 They're like, yeah, well, if you want to sit here 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:30.000 and promote the book, maybe you need to just go 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:30.920 to sex conventions. 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:31.920 No, no good. 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:35.440 We were told as New York Times bestsellers with a 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.880 book that is being transformative, with a lot of reviews 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:42.600 on Amazon, that actually has has been transforming the way 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.600 people view themselves and stepping into their power and overcoming trauma. 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:48.560 Well maybe y'all should go to sex conventions. 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:53.840 What I think, it's difficult because people want to compartmentalize, right, 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:57.800 It's easy. It's human psychology to dictate you look like this, ergo, 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.680 you deserve these things and you're this kind of person. However, 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.800 you all exist across multitudes, and that is a really 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.600 difficult place to be. You all are the pioneers of this, 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.080 so you're going to have an undue burden. It's going 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.840 to be easier for the next Wheezy and Mandy, But 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:13.960 y'all are the first to do something like this where 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:19.440 you're cascading against entrepreneurship, sex positivity podcasting. You all own 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.520 this shit. This is crazy that y'all are owning this. 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:25.080 But unfortunately people don't have the space to hold multiple 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.720 truths at once. And that's why when I talk about 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:31.200 like presenting, it's not from a it's not from a 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:34.320 place of being inauthentic. But quite frankly, people make snap judgments. 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.839 They're deciding within seven seconds whether to give you the funding, 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.160 They're deciding within seven seconds how to engage with you. 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:41.560 Men are deciding in seven seconds, like you said, the 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:45.080 box theory, what category to put you in. And either 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:46.960 you can choose to play the game, which I think 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:48.760 many people do, or you can choose not to, which 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:54.280 is what y'all are doing. But that's incredible and fantastic, Yes. 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:58.160 It is the way like the amount of knows we've 0:08:58.200 --> 0:08:58.480 heard me. 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.480 We even just got into a group chat together with 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.360 with tempests and we were like, oh, we're so sick 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.320 a fucking here and no, like we've heard no so 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:09.640 much over the last fucking two years, even like after 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.360 the rebrand, and there's still just been like God, damn, 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.360 what the fuck can we do? Like and there's a 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.840 there's a thing I talk about, like even with shooting 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.960 your shot right, being able to accept rejection. Being able 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:26.679 to accept rejection goes around hearing no in so many ways, 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:29.319 so many facets, not just not just dating, like it's 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:33.040 in almost every fucking corner, Like hearing know that much 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.080 is like this is exhausting. 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:36.360 It is no. It's exhausting. 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:38.600 It is exhausting. But no is also data. There is 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.400 no such thing as a no. It's just information. So 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.959 when I hear no, I hear this is information that 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:45.840 I'm getting from this space. What can I do to 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:49.840 alchemize this no? So it's never a no, it's what 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.000 are the pieces that I'm So for example, if someone 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:53.880 does a video, this is a very like tepid example. 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.360 But if someone does a video and I also do 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.120 the same video, my video flops, Their video does fantastic. 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.199 It's a no in terms of the algorithm, it's the know. 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.200 In terms of perception, fine, but what I'm able to 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:06.120 do is sit in the know because it's uncomfortable and 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.280 it sucks. But also I can either continue to do 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.079 that or I can figure out what is this person 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.319 doing that's better than me, and how can I alchemize 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.440 that information and data to make me better? 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:16.600 And that is how I've built a platform because. 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.320 I've been doing content for a minute and some of 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.560 the girls blew up way past me. But what I 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:22.280 was able to do is say, oh, she's doing this, 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:24.040 she has the right lighting, she has the right hook, 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.360 she has expyz. So even on a metas scale, and 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.320 I'm not comparing a TikTok video to what y'all are 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.439 going through, but on a meta scale, no is data. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.200 And I really lead into the note and I actually 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.440 think you should chase the nose, especially right now, like 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:36.240 y'all are no. 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.880 But the thing that I'm thinking about with what you're saying, 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:44.000 especially with the being feeling like sorry, where was validated? 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:44.520 Yeah? 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:49.000 Yeah, being invalidated by women that are chasing a certain 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.600 life or trying to get somewhere and we look different 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:56.239 for me. Unfortunately, it did have to come with other accolades, 0:10:56.679 --> 0:11:00.480 like yeah, our podcast did so many numbers, so many 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:04.040 things that it had broke barriers for so many accomplishments 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.000 we've had, even with like being part of the inception 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.760 of the black Back network that's now huge, just being 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.560 those girls, the first girls like just like being unleashed 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.559 on this whole big journey that Charlene Charlemagne started. This 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:19.920 now beyond him when I got back into corporate. So 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:21.960 Mandy and I left corporate. We were corporate girlies. That 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:25.280 started our show. When I got to run a podcast division, 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:27.520 and I mean still doing it when I got to 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.920 do that again, being in a different space showed made 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.120 me feel more powerful, and I hated that it did 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:36.760 that because the entrepreneurship was really the big deal. I 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.560 left my corporate job, being a sales engineer and working 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.439 in tech to talk about sex for a living make 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.680 more money than I did. But the second I got 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.719 right back into having that kind of title, that made 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.280 me feel good. What's strange to me is how much 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:55.400 we need the validity from others. The way that I 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:59.000 felt for my own self was amazing. Oh my god, 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:00.640 I don't have to get up to where I'm like 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.600 loving it. I'm on vacation, I'm working from home. I 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.600 can record my podcast on Zoom. But the second I 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.080 was on a payroll again, I was like, oop, yeah, 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:11.680 I'm really doing it. And it's ridiculous because at the 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:15.080 end of the day, entrepreneurship is the goal for everyone. 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.920 I was working with all of them, all of them, 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:20.280 all of them, all of them, and they're all like, damn, 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:21.840 what the fuck made you want to get back and 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.160 do this. I'm like, I don't fucking know, but I 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.599 will say my aesthetic. Learn to lean in and love it. 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.920 It was weird for me for the first year of 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:35.800 being single after relationship, because I thought, oh, I'm starting 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:37.520 to have a look. I didn't have as many tattoos, 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:38.960 I didn't have a septum ring when I got with him. 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.120 But this is my thing. Things I like and what 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.080 I learned is like my tribe is my tribe. Like 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.800 the men I'm looking for kind of look the same. Right. 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:50.360 I don't really do well with finance bros because most don't. 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:51.600 I would say most don't. 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:56.200 I don't the baby doing cochi shit. Them niggas be 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.920 having the bacca bottle at the bottom of the death. 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:00.959 They work a lot of hours, then they got to 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:04.040 hang out with other bros. What other bros like? Stripper bitches? 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:09.280 No, they in broths, they strip clubs, they coked it out. 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.000 I say, the skills and the rich, but the girls 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.199 that are chasing the finance bros. I think there's girls 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.720 chasing them. They've never gd any finance. Have you seen 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.240 on TikTok? I want a man six to finance whatever, 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.640 like the black girls and white girls everybody, but they 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:24.840 haven't got They haven't gotten it because what you don't 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:26.840 understand is the skills that make you great at finance 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:28.880 are the exact skills that make partner. 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.679 The way the girls be uh one in the athlete niggas? 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:33.640 Now have you like? Oh, girls, the girls want athlete. 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:39.360 They all growing woman girl the girl. You know, it's funny. 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:41.360 You know what's funny about that? I'm not gonna lie. 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.439 All of my homegirls thirty five don't nobody want them on. 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:46.120 I can't think of it. 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.839 I think athletes are like, it's a young girl's game. 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:52.599 It's a game either you got them in find you. 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.280 I still got one on my roster, but just one. 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:58.400 I only got one, Yes it was I. 0:13:58.360 --> 0:13:59.880 Have one, just one one. 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.680 But I don't want to be with I don't desire 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:03.320 being with him. 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.360 Like the idea of being with a guy. 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:09.120 Like that, yeah, is like fuck, wait, why tell me experience? 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.000 I think the way you think. I mean, they don't 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:15.800 do coke because they get drug tested well. Apparently they 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.240 do the pick coke on the yachts in off season. 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:20.040 That was crazy. 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:21.840 I don't want them to take a black manta say hey, 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:23.840 everyone's doing gummy bear stuff whatever. 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:27.280 Listen to me. I think just there. 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.760 They're the type of men that have never had to 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.640 really compromise. They're the type of men that have always 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.640 been given everything to them, that have never been held 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.600 accountable for how they treat others because the world has 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.040 been a runway for them, because they've been able to 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.720 provide for family. They don't have friends that check them 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.200 because the friends are on the paywall, and so in 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:52.040 terms of how they show up in relationships, it's very surface, 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:53.240 it's very lonely. 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:53.840 It's very empty. 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.000 And then you do have to realize that is going 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.040 to be a person that you share that will most 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:00.080 likely embarrass you. 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.480 And now you know what's interesting though, what because I 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:05.240 know a lot of your content has been about rich men. 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:09.160 In that discussion, people would say that for any rich guy. 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:10.880 Do you do you believe that about any rich men? 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:12.560 I do believe that about any rich man. I think 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.400 I believe that about a lot of men. Actually, they 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:15.400 don't even have to be rich. 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:20.280 Then if you are super attracted, if you're attracted, if 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:25.440 you make in this economy over two hundred. 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:25.960 It's funny that it's funny that you said that in 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:27.960 compared to the dark. So I was with my family 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:31.120 this weekend and my sister is talking to a new 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:34.120 guy his career. You wouldn't think anything up, but my 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.800 mom has experienced with men in this career. So for 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:40.400 if we're not talking about rich, wealthy men, apparently truck 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:44.560 drivers are terrible men today and so listening to them 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.960 this weekend, talk about how truck driving is a career 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:49.400 that if a man has he. 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:50.960 Ain't shit because he's always on the road. 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:52.920 He might have his certain routes, so he got a 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.440 bitch on these Routes's what. 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.600 So my partner is a real estate investor and he 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.920 has been for the last I don't know, maybe six seven. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.040 We've only been did in two years. But that was 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.040 his first job and that was how he got in come. 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:10.480 You might be right the truck literally, but I didn't 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.760 know about drivers, but I know those careers are the 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:15.960 all that time on the truck, listening to them pop 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:17.320 flipping houses, learning shit. 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:20.720 Okay, what other career then? If you're like, it's any guy. 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:22.760 Are you just saying all men, whether I've got a 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:23.880 job or not. I'm not saying all men. 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:27.000 Some of the some of the most insane men I've 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:30.000 ever dated, have been in construction, I mean fantastic HVAC 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:33.080 like it can be anything. The issue is supply and demand, 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.120 and the issue is perception and access. It doesn't really 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.440 matter how much money they have. What matters is who 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:41.400 they have access to their perception. 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.240 Everybody got access to everybody now with social media. I 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:46.360 also think it depends. 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:48.640 So for example, if me and my homegirls are at 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:50.680 a party, I have seen this with my own eyes. 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:52.800 A regular dude who works at a great. 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:56.120 Tech company, you would think he was lebron the way 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:58.040 that women are like circulating it. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:16:59.080 Now, what is it? Is it? 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:03.760 The I mean, he's moderately attractive, has a good job. 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:06.199 But in this economy where most men don't have a 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.560 lot of those things, we're in a scarcity mindset. They're 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:10.199 going to be rotating. And that's why I always say, 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:11.960 I think it is very lame and very corny, and 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.200 I got lit up for this when women are obsessed 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:18.320 with David rich men, I think it is extremely lame 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:19.800 and I think it's extremely corny. I think it's a 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.320 proxy for low self esteem keyword being obsessed. 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:26.200 So what is what is your thoughts on women who. 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:28.880 Are obsessed sprinkle sprinkle all of that with the sprinkle, Yeah, 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:30.680 I think so. 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:32.080 Wait, what do you sprinkles? 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:35.600 Sprinkles, sprinkle sprinkle the little sprinkle sprinkle. Lady who was 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:37.400 talking about. 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:40.120 The I'm sorry, is this a new drug? 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:42.399 Okay? 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.680 So I did a TikTok say I think women who 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:48.240 are obsessed with rich men are lame. And I kind 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.480 of got lit up. Some women understood, some did it okay. 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:52.280 I For example, if this. 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.160 Is a longer format, you could break it down to okay, 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:57.119 per so explain. Okay. 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.679 So, for example, if a man said I'm obsessed with models, 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:02.639 I think we would be like, oh, that's lame and 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.600