1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: Bangladesh, the South Asian country that's home to nearly one 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy million people, has a new government. 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 3: This Bangladesh has been reborn. Our resolve is to see 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 3: it move ahead at a very rapid pace. That is 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 3: what we want to protect. 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: After weeks of protests that led to some four hundred deaths, 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: Prime Minister Sheik Hasina was forced to step down and 9 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: flee the country, putting an abrupt end to her fifteen 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: years in power. 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 3: That this is not just. 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: The end of the Titan shake Asina. 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: With this, we put an end to the mafia state 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 3: that she hastrated. 15 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: In a startling turn of events, Nobel Prize winning economist 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: Mohammed Unis stepped into the leadership vacuum. Yes, the same 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: Mohammed Unis who we reported just last month was facing 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: nearly two hundred criminal charges that his supporters believed were 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: politically motivated. Earlier, Yunis told Bloomberg that he didn't have 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: political aspirations, but after Hassina's departure, he was chosen to 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: be the chief advisor of the interim government. 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 3: We must protect this freedom and not only protect it, 23 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: but take the fruits of this freedom to every household. 24 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: Otherwise this freedom has no value. 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: What happens next in Bangladesh is being closely watched by 26 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: international investors who've come to see the country as a 27 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: potential rising economy. 28 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: Bangladesh, when it was inaugurated as a nation as an 29 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: independent nation in the nineteen seventies, was something like the 30 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: second poorest country on Earth. Now it's a lower middle 31 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: income economy, so it seemed as a fairly robust success 32 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: story in the region. And I think that that reputation 33 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: is what's at stake. 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: Bloomberg reporter Kai Schultz has been closely covering the events 35 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: in Bangladesh over the last few months, and he says 36 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: one thing Muhammad Unis's interim government will need to do 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: is to shore up confidence in the country. 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: One of the things that Unice and his interim government 39 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: will want to do is just ensure the international community 40 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: that this is still a place to park their money, 41 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: that it's a country that still has a very positive trajectory. 42 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Big Take Asia from Bloomberg News. I'm 43 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: wanh today on the show how student protesters toppled a 44 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: fifteen year rule in Bangladesh and what's next for Bangladesh's economy. Kai, 45 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: we spoke last month about the celebrated economist Muhammad Yunis, 46 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: whom you met earlier this year in Bangladesh. He was 47 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: then fighting very serious criminal charges that his supporters believed 48 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: were being driven by former Prime Minister Shai Casina, And 49 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 2: now weeks later, we have such a dramatic turn. Hassina's 50 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: resigned abruptly and has fled the country, while Unice is 51 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: now in charge of an interim government. Did anyone see 52 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: this coming? 53 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 1: Nobody saw this coming. It's been a complete shock. It's 54 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: wild that Unice is the leader of the interim government, 55 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: precisely because he was such a target of Hassina's administration, 56 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: or at least it was perceived that way by him 57 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: in his camp. He faced life imprisonment and now he's 58 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: ruling over a massive country and many now are hoping 59 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: that this ushers in a new era for the country, 60 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 1: but with so much uncertainty, it's hard to say. 61 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: Okay. So take us back to the protests in July 62 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: that led to the Prime Minister's ouster. What got people 63 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: to the streets. 64 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: The protests started with fairly narrow to points. Mostly they 65 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 1: were on the streets contesting a law that preserves government 66 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: jobs for specific groups. 67 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: So wait, why did protesters care so much about these jobs? 68 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: So under the quota system, about thirty percent of jobs 69 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: were reserved for the families of veterans who fought in 70 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: Bangladesh's War of independence. Hasina's party, the Iwami League, was 71 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 1: instrumental at that time in pushing for Bangladesh to become 72 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: an independent nation. So many students felt like this system 73 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: favored loyalists of hers. And Bangladesh's economy has lately slowed, 74 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: there's still a sense, particularly among young people, that quality 75 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: jobs are in short supply. So the protest movement was 76 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: largely led by students, at least initially. 77 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 2: And how did the then prime minister has seen it 78 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: react to the protests and criticism. 79 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: Sure, Hassina reacted with force in those early days. 80 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 4: The army has now been deployed in the country's capital 81 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 4: to enforce a strict curfew with a shoot on site order. 82 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: And the way they cracked down was by deputizing the police. Eventually, 83 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: the army shutting down communication so that people couldn't as 84 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: easily organize. 85 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 4: With the government imposing a nationwide internet blackout. The US 86 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 4: embasc and a statement saying reports indicate hundreds have been injured, 87 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 4: adding the situation is extremely volatile. 88 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: For several days, WhatsApp was basically unusable, so internet services, 89 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: phone communications, all of that was cut, and the protests 90 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: became very violent. According to figures that we have, which 91 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: are pulled from a variety of sources, including hospitals, several 92 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: hundred people were killed, perhaps more than four hundred. 93 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: Okay, so you've got Prime Minister ship Casina. She's been 94 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: ruling Bangladesh with an ironclad fist and took a really 95 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: strong stance against these protests, forcefully suppressed the demonstrations, and 96 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: then weeks after she's basically resigned abruptly fled the country. 97 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: What was a turning point here? 98 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: So at one point, several days into the protests, Hassina's 99 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: administration made a concession. The veterans quota was cut to 100 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: five percent, and that seemed to quell a lot of 101 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: the anger. The protests died down, but soon after, and 102 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: it's unclear exactly why this occurred, the protesters returned, and 103 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: when they returned, they wanted her to resign. And we 104 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: think that part of the reason that these persisted was 105 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: because by that point a few hundred people had already 106 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: been killed, and Bangladeshi's were so tired of living in 107 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: a country that they felt did not have a justice 108 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: system that favored them, but had a justice system that 109 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: favored the elite, and their agenda narrowed to a single 110 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: bullet point, which was effectively to push her out. The 111 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: streets of Dhaka were at their bloodiest. I think the 112 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: day before she resigned, something like one hundred people alone 113 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: were killed. And that's really the moment when a lot 114 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: of security personnel felt like they could no longer protect 115 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: Shei Casina and they could no longer stand behind her administration. 116 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: So Hassina resigns and Mohammed Yunis, the Nobel Prize winning economist, 117 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: steps in to lead the interim government at Bangladesh, backed 118 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: by the military. What happens next here. 119 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: What happens next is the interim government will start to 120 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: put together an agenda to rebuild Bangladesh to take the 121 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: country forward. Right now, ideally elections would be held within 122 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: three or so months. I think it's a ninety day period. 123 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: So there are a lot of moving pieces at the moment, 124 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: herself may come back to Bangladesh and contest elections. But 125 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: it could be a situation where they're held in three months, 126 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: it could be a situation where they're held in two years. 127 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: We really don't know. 128 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: I imagine that the next few weeks will be really important 129 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: to re establish in a security for Bangladesh. What are 130 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: the most important things that UNICE and the military need 131 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: to do to get daily life in Bangladesh, you know, 132 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: running smoothly again right now? 133 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: A lot of services simply aren't working, so the police 134 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: were on strike. Many businesses are still shuttered. They're worried 135 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: about arsonists, about looters. After Shai Casina left, after she 136 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: fled to India, the protests continued in some sort of spirit, 137 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: and in many parts of the country they continued to 138 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: be violent. So we've encountered reports of minority Hindus being attacked. 139 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: There's a sense that if Bangladesh doesn't get a hold 140 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: of the security situation, it could be another Pakistan in 141 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: the sense that it could be a place that harbors 142 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: Esamist extremists. And so I think that that will be 143 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: top of the agenda in the immediate month for Unis 144 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: and for the military establishing some sense of security at 145 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: least in the capital and the bigger cities in Bangladesh. 146 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: And what are the risks here to Bangladesh's economy. It 147 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: is the second largest garment exporter next to China. 148 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: The garment exports industry has been disrupted, of course by 149 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: the protests by curfews, so a number of factories have 150 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: temporarily shuddered as these protests became very intense. Much of 151 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: the industry is centralized around Dhaka, the capital where many 152 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: of the protests were held, so there's been a bit 153 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: of a spillover effect. Foreign direct investment has been falling 154 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: pretty rapidly in Bangladesh for a few years. The desk 155 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: suffered immensely from the pandemic and supply chain disruptions. Blangladesh 156 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: Banks governor recently resigned. There's been enormous shakeup in the 157 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: finance ministry, which is creating quite a bit of turbulence, 158 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: at least in the present moment. 159 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: After the break, Bangladesh heads into an uncertain future with 160 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: a reluctant leader. What does Muhammad Unis have planned for 161 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: Bangladesh now that he's in charge kai This is a 162 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: very dramatic turn of events in Bangladesh. When you visited 163 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: Muhammad Unis earlier this year at his home in dot Com, 164 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: he was facing a very different future. How did he 165 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: go from facing life in prison to leading the country. 166 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: It's hard to know exactly why he was chosen. He 167 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: was the person that student protesters wanted to lead this 168 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 1: interim government. He's an intellectual, He's someone who is mostly apolitical, 169 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: and I think that a lot of Bangladeshi's gravitate towards 170 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: that they're tired of the same leaders with the same agendas, 171 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: constantly fighting each other, and Professor Unis offers something different 172 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: in that sense. But it's absolutely crazy that he is 173 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: now completely out of the legal entanglements, at least for 174 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: the time being that he previously faced. The charges against 175 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: him have been dropped. He was once a chief threat 176 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: to Hassina, at least in the eyes of many people 177 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: who are close to her, and he's now in her seat. 178 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: So one thing I wanted to touch upon is there 179 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: is a bit of jeja vu here, right, this is 180 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: not the first time that Yunis stepped into politics under 181 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: turbulent circumstances. 182 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: That's right, He briefly entered politics in two thousand and 183 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: seven when Hassina was in jail, and she saw that 184 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: as betrayal of sorts. He quickly stepped out. He realized 185 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: that it was not for him, and he's insisted, including 186 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: the interviews that I've conducted with him earlier this year, 187 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: that he has no interest in politics. 188 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 3: I said, look, I'm not a politicians. 189 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: This is a lot of thing I will never do. 190 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was a conversation you had with him 191 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: just earlier this year. What did you take away from 192 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 2: that conversation. 193 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: I took away that this is someone who's very dedicated 194 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: to poverty alleviation. He did not strike me as someone 195 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: who had political ambitions. It did not feel like that 196 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: was just something he was saying to get Hassina off 197 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: his back. My sense now is the student protesters asked 198 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: him to be the interim head. That's something we do 199 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: know as a fact. Whether he wanted to do it 200 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: or whether he felt pressure to do it because the 201 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: situation in Bangladesh was so unstable is still an open question. 202 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: I think we'll have more clarity in the coming days, 203 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: but for now, it's certainly a bit of an about face, 204 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: and we'll see whether this is just a temporary step 205 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: into the political arena or whether he might himself contest 206 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: elections when they are held. 207 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: And how do you think this turbulent episode has changed 208 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: how the world looks at Bangladesh. 209 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: I think that there's been an impression, at least within governments, 210 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: that Bangladesh has slid toward a more authoritarian model. But 211 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: at the same time, it's still one of the few 212 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: Muslim democracies in the world. It's a country of contradictory elements. 213 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: Shee Casina was one of Asia's longest serving leaders. She 214 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: presided over a pretty secularized nation, a place where religious 215 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: minorities could worship in peace. So there's a sense that 216 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: Bangadesh was a special nation is a special nation, that 217 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: it's a place that's made enormous strides to improve its 218 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: economy and to move up the value chain. But I 219 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: think with these latest protests there's much darker impression that 220 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: the country could become far less stable, and so there's 221 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: a lot less optimism, at least at the moment. 222 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: So when will we actually have a sense of what 223 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: the future looks like for Bangladesh? 224 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: Right now? Unice's interim government has focused most of their 225 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: rhetoric on restoring peace to the streets. Once we have 226 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: a better sense for their actual agenda, I think we'll 227 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: have more clarity on number one, how long the interim 228 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: government could be in place and how long it may 229 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: take for elections to be held. And number two, whether 230 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: the two traditional parties in Bangladesh, the Iwami League and 231 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: the B and P the are likely to be the 232 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: powerbrokers in the future, or whether units could be starting 233 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: a new movement for the country in a new political agenda. 234 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: Really for Bangladesh, but for now it's a watch and 235 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: see situation. 236 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: This is The Big Take Asia from Bloomberg News. I'm wanh. 237 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: This episode was produced by Young Young Naomi, Jessica Beck 238 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: and Alex Zuguiera, who also mixed it. It was fact 239 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: checked by Thomas Slut and edited by Caitlin Kenny. 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