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Speaker 2: Hello, and good day to you my favorite listeners. As

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Speaker 2: an incredibly talented actor and musician, Palakee Alua for Yuku.

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Speaker 2: She is the star of the very good show Bob

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Speaker 2: Hart's Abi Sholah, which bittersweetly had its series finale just

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Speaker 2: relax and enjoy my conversation with f lacke Alua Fayuku,

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Speaker 2: Bubble and squeak. I love it, Bubble and Squeakna, Bubble

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Speaker 2: I'm so good. It is so good to see you.

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Speaker 2: I am such a big fan of yours. I really

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Legos, Nigeria where Legos Legos.

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Speaker 1: I had an understanding because I called, I got called.

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Speaker 2: Fascinating. Yeah, you mentioned you got a degree in audio engineering. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're a DJ, your producer.

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Speaker 1: DJed once. I wouldn't call myself a DJ, DJ Moore, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Okay, well that's I'm that. I mean, I'm okay, I'm

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Speaker 2: never come up. I was at a charity event out

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Speaker 2: This is a while ago. I could come up with

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Speaker 2: You go meet him. The DJ was Idris Elba. Oh

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Speaker 2: Idris Elba had gotten hired. Now he had done other work.

436
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: Obviously at that time he had not become Idris Elba

437
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: Idris Elba. Yeah, and I was like, God, you are

438
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 2: I remember, right, I remember, like to this day. We

439
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: took a picture and I was like, you are the

440
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: coolest guy I know, like that you're that you were DJing,

441
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 2: that you were out there, that you were putting it

442
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 2: like his whole self into it and he just had

443
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: a passion for it. It sounds like like you now

444
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 2: you've only done it once, but in in terms of

445
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 2: creating music, writing your own music, this feeds you. Yeah right,

446
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: I mean it very clearly does.

447
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: Being around music pinetic capacity is just always a good time.

448
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: If I'm having a downtime, picking up the guitar and

449
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: playing something switches my move.

450
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: I mean we started by talking about the broad range

451
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: of experience you had as a kid, but I mean

452
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 2: to come over to New York and to be on

453
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 2: the college basketball team, and to be studying economics and

454
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: music even through a musical theater, and then eventually the

455
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: audio engineering and to start performing. I mean that, seriously,

456
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: that is what college is all about. I mean, that's

457
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: what that's what it should be all about. Like, let's

458
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: freaking go.

459
00:27:55,080 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 3: And just do everything, try, try everything, and so how

460
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: then you're trying everything, it sounds like succeeding pretty damn.

461
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 2: Well at everything. Yeah, how does how does the path narrow?

462
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 2: How do you make the decision that that being an

463
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: actor is what you want to do with the music career?

464
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: But I mean, like you're going to pursue that. How

465
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 2: did that decision come about? Well?

466
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: That was the only thing I had training in acting? Okay,

467
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: And while I had training and audio engineering, the reason

468
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: I went through that process was so I could have

469
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: an understanding and how to create my own music. Wasn't

470
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: because I necessarily want I didn't want to work as

471
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: an audio engineer. I wanted to know how to create

472
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: my own and I just all I've gone to school

473
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: for was acting. And I had some odd jobs here

474
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: and there. I remember I worked at the information desk

475
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: the Citycology in New York. But the only thing I

476
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: was really qualified to do was act. Is how I felt,

477
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: And while I was in school, I always knew as

478
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: an immigrant, as a black woman, I had to work

479
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: extra hard. So even when I was hearing that it's

480
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: too student to be going out into the world and

481
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: working as like, fucked that shit. I'm going out into

482
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: the world that I'm going to experience so that I

483
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: can be prepared when it's actually time for me to

484
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: show up professionally. That was the thought process that I

485
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: pieced together. That was my strategy, and I've always been

486
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: guided by intuition, and intuition told me that this was

487
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: the right path.

488
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like it. Seeing your resume and knowing

489
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 2: your work from a number of these shows me you

490
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: basically dominate the tradition. I don't even know the traditional

491
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: New York shows. I don't even know what that's talking about,

492
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: but all the law and Orders and the thirty Rocks

493
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: and all that, and then eventually obviously Modern Family, West

494
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: World and Transparent. When did you move to LA.

495
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: I moved to LA I think about twenty thirteen. It's

496
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: been about exactly ten years. Yeah, I think about twenty thirteen. Wow,

497
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: twenty twelve thirteen.

498
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: And why it was cold?

499
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: It was cold in New York. I needed something different.

500
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: I was tired of the winters there. I needed hot

501
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: and humid, which is the climate that I come from,

502
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: and I wren't looking for that, granted, and there's not humid,

503
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: but he was definitely sunnier and hotter than New York.

504
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: Have you tried Houston? Houston is hot and humid.

505
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't been to Houston yet, but I've

506
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: been to whenever I've gone, like Leans, Florida. Atlanta is

507
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: getting cold now, but Florida, Florida, the Florida climate in

508
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: the Florida feels the closest to him whenever Miami had

509
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: failed that.

510
00:30:46,960 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: Way, Eventually, you have an opportunity. You meet I don't know,

511
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: the most prolific creator of television of the last Why

512
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: has it been that twenty years? Let's call it twenty

513
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: five years, Chuck, Chuck Glory. Talk to me about your

514
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: audition process, how you got this role, and how you

515
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: felt about the role reading it on Bob Heart's I'll

516
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: be Showing Up.

517
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: Well, I got an email from my agent's bar stage,

518
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: and like every other email I get, I read it

519
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, yeah, I got this, It's easy,

520
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: and like set it aside. And then I started working

521
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: on it and it was very easy. The character was

522
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: easy for me. I knew her, I grew up with her.

523
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: My aunties's my mother's she's like my class teachers. You know,

524
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: so I knew exactly how to play her, but I

525
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time trying to balance her out.

526
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: So talking about all the things we previously mentioned at

527
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: the beginning of the interview, like adding the melodies, the

528
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: comedic melodies of Africa, Nigeria specifically, and the melodies of

529
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: the rest of the world, as you guys know, the sitcoms,

530
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: and also having explored her in all these different elements

531
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: over the years at different levels over the years, I

532
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: chose that I didn't want her to be a career cuature.

533
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: This was going to be a big project. It was

534
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: going to be a lot of people's Yeah, it was

535
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: going to be a lot of people's introduction to Nigerian culture.

536
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: And I felt like I wanted to portray her as

537
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: grounded and as human and as multi dimensional as possible.

538
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: And throughout the five seasons, boy did they give me

539
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: materiy to work with, because there's this season where I

540
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: was crying all the time, all the time, and then

541
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: you know that she became the hard ass and then

542
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: she softened up. But I wanted all of that to

543
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: be grounded and a dignified portrayal of my journal.

544
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting about television right that. I was just

545
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 2: talking about this with someone the other day that the time.

546
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're lucky enough to be on a

547
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: show that runs for multiple years, the character does change.

548
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: The writers change how the character is being written for,

549
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: and in a good show there's a journey built in

550
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: and it's becomes much different than in film or you know,

551
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: a guest spot or wherever, where this is the character

552
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: and you kind of know everything about this character going in.

553
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: As the show is going, you're changing, You're you're changing,

554
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: and the character is changing. How how did you find

555
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: that experience, the experience of being able to explore her

556
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: for five years?

557
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: It was It was interesting. It was interesting because our

558
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: writers are obviously fucking amazing and also led by chub Lauri.

559
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: It's like magic, but having the lived experience of being

560
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: a Nigerian woman in Nigeria. There are the elements that

561
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: I wanted to explore, but we never We didn't get

562
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: a chance to explore a lot of them. There there

563
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: would be times where we could confuse some some of

564
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: this lived experience moments into the show, like when during

565
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 1: the wedding, when Bob and I are having an intimate

566
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: moment with all the guests gathered around. I remember pitching

567
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 1: it to the director, Beth lafack Mill. It's like, hey, Beth,

568
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: it wouldn't it be cool if while we're dancing it's

569
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: just chilling out, all the electricity goes off, because that

570
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: shit will happen in Nigeria. It was all the electricity

571
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: goes off and then we're like groaning, and then the

572
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: electricity comes back when I'm like, Nepa. That is such

573
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: a Nigerian moment, and I wanted to infuse a lot

574
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: more of those moments in there. But I also understood

575
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: that this was not a show that was geared towards

576
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: journal audience. He's an American show, and so it was

577
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: comforting to be able to rely on their expertise in

578
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: those ways whilst looking for ways to, you know, reveal

579
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: a little bit more and go a little bit more

580
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: in debt with a Nigerian experience. Everything else was everything

581
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: else was.

582
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: Something that's awesome. There's You also had a specific hmmm,

583
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: what do you call it, set of circumstances that were

584
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: not ideal for your show. I mean, look, show, there's

585
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: a worldwide pandemic, there's a writer strike, an actor strike.

586
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 2: But you guys.

587
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: Both both in Nigeria and an American.

588
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 2: Yes, yet the show survived. What do you think that

589
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 2: that says about the show and what you were doing

590
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: or the crew that you were working with that you

591
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: unlike so many other shows survived all of those external

592
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: those external factors.

593
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: The Chuck glory factor. Man Chuck Chuck would enter the room,

594
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: enter like a rehearsal and just say like two words

595
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: and wave his hands and everything would just be magical.

596
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: And also because I guess of the years of expertise

597
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: in this in this field, he has a crew of

598
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: people who are fucking phenomenal, from my live producers Christy

599
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: Robin to like Scott London and props Sammy to the

600
00:36:55,120 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: makeup department he had department. Everyone works so diligently and

601
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: so precisely, there was no room for it. Like it

602
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: was just seamless. It was seamless all the time.

603
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's no global pandemic, there's no like we're

604
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: just gonna yeah.

605
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: We but that's the reason why we could function as

606
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: efficiently as we did throughout the pandemic because he has

607
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: a team of folks who are at the highest level

608
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: of their game, and they show up like that all

609
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: time and at all times, and they set precedents for

610
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: how me and like relatively unknown after coming into the

611
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: show then conduct with herself. They've set a bar for me.

612
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: Any production I go into, well, I will come with

613
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: the wealth of knowledge and an expertise that you acquire

614
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: from being in front at the Chuck Ray Universe.

615
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: I'm really glad you said that, because you know, I've

616
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:59,479
Speaker 2: had small experiences, multiple experiences on his shows, and that

617
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 2: is so true. And I don't think that that's talked

618
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: about enough. It becomes a cliche like we have the

619
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: greatest team, we have the greatest crew, we have the

620
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: greatest blah blah blah. But there is an efficiency that

621
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: exists on his sets and throughout his shows that is palpable.

622
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean to your point, you come in

623
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 2: as a lead and you haven't done anything before, and

624
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 2: you you were, You were taught how it's done by

625
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 2: experienced by experienced people who if they didn't know how

626
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 2: to do their job, they wouldn't be there. So good

627
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 2: for you. That's that's amazing.

628
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: I learned from the best minds in the industry, some

629
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: of the best minds in the industry. Very fortunate.

630
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: Sadly the series is ending here this month. You've already

631
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: shot the finale.

632
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were done shooting about a month ago, and

633
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: the finale aired yesterday.

634
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: Yesterday. Yes, wow, how it feel? It was?

635
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 1: You know, Miss Renee that's what I call her, Miss Warrens.

636
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: She plays Gloria on the show. She came over and

637
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: watched it together and it was laugh out loud, like

638
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: we were out here like laughing out loud. It was

639
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: a very beautiful moment. I feel good. I feel fulfilled.

640
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: I feel like I left my mark in a way.

641
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: I feel like I've done something meaningful with my life,

642
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: and I want to go rest for a little bit

643
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: and reflect on all of it, and then I'm super

644
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: excited about the future. I'm very excited about the opportunities

645
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: for the future. We just announced that Lion King. I'm

646
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: part of the Lion King the Passa and that's going

647
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: to be that's gonna premire on December twentia.

648
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: Congratulations, thank you. That's credible.

649
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: I hit up. I hit up Chuck. I was like,

650
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: I said, Chuck the text and I sent him the article.

651
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: Thank you, Chuck, Laurie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. Uh sad for you to say goodbye

653
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Speaker 2: or obviously the people, Yeah, I love with that, but

654
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Speaker 2: the character say goodbye to the character.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's sad. Like Michelle, I gave me some of

656
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Speaker 1: the most dynamic times in my life. And I mean,

657
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Speaker 1: I'm always going to be tied to her. So I

658
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Speaker 1: love her. I love her. She's a brilliant woman, tenacious.

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Speaker 1: I would say sadness is a word I think of

660
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Speaker 1: when I think about part of the race attactors. We're

661
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Speaker 1: going to be syndicated. I can watch her anytime, you know. Yeah,

662
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Speaker 1: I just feel proud. I feel very proud of her.

663
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Speaker 1: I feel proud of her.

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Speaker 2: Very good for you. First America can sitcom to feature

665
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Speaker 2: a Nigerian family, but not just that. It had respect

666
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Speaker 2: and grace, amazing performances, particularly by you. You deserve tremendous

667
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Speaker 2: respect and all good fortunes coming down the pipe. Congratulations

668
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Speaker 2: on Lion King. I and everyone else is going to

669
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Speaker 2: be watching and listen. Anytime you want to shoot the rock,

670
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Speaker 2: you give me a call. You I'm closer than you think.

671
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Speaker 2: Really you think you just let me, you just let

672
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Speaker 2: me know, Well I will.

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Speaker 1: I actually would love to. I haven't played in a

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Speaker 1: little bit. So if you're down and play this week.

675
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Speaker 1: I'm down.

676
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Speaker 2: Wow, look at that. You're just coming you're just coming

677
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Speaker 2: right out to let me. I'll tell you very quick story.

678
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Speaker 2: I played in a pickup game against a little a

679
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Speaker 2: little there were there were. It was sort of an

680
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Speaker 2: organized and you know, I'm backing him down. I got size,

681
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Speaker 2: I'm backing him down in a beautiful fade away Jay

682
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Speaker 2: and he starts, little guy starts slapping at the ball,

683
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Speaker 2: like coming around and slapping at the ball, like taking

684
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Speaker 2: it a little too seriously, Like I take it seriously,

685
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Speaker 2: but a little too wha wa bang elbow right in

686
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Speaker 2: my eye socket. Within seconds, it swells up like like second.

687
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Speaker 2: By the time I like put my hand over my

688
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Speaker 2: eye and ran to the bathroom. It was like a

689
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Speaker 2: baseball whoa. And I was like, well, I guess, I

690
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Speaker 2: guess casual pickup games is not happening for me anymore.

691
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Speaker 2: Oh but I'll I'll I'll take you. I'll take you

692
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Speaker 2: all right, let's see, I'll take all comers. Here's the thing, curious,

693
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Speaker 2: my confidence outweighs my ability, But my ability is strong.

694
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Speaker 1: I haven't played in a bit, so I don't know

695
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Speaker 1: one of those things, Sad. I have talent, listen, I

696
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Speaker 1: have natural talent, so I'm pretty sure i'll fuck you up.

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Speaker 1: How tall are you?

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Speaker 2: How tall? I was literally about to say, how tall

699
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Speaker 2: are you? How tall are you? Yeah? I got you?

700
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Speaker 2: You got you? Six three? Ah?

701
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Speaker 1: Fuck now I got you. I know I can, I

702
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: can box out like a motherfucker and I got hops.

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Speaker 2: Bring it all right. Uh, congratulations and good luck. I'm

704
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Speaker 2: gonna be watching.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Brian, and well done on the Office.

706
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Speaker 1: I really enjoy that show, really really enjoyed that show,

707
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Speaker 1: really enjoyed your character.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I I appreciate that very much. That's very sweet.

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Speaker 2: I'm still gonna kill you.

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Speaker 1: Let's see get.

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Speaker 2: Cameras, flacke a pleasure to have you. Congratulations on an

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Speaker 2: amazing six years of a great show. I am looking

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Speaker 2: forward to whatever you do next. I promise you I

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Speaker 2: will be watching listeners. Thank you for well for listening.

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Speaker 2: I've said it before, I'll say it again. You do

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Speaker 2: that incredibly well. This is us, right you listen I talk.

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Speaker 2: Oh and speaking of this is Us, join us next week.

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Speaker 2: I promise it's going to be a good one. Have

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Speaker 2: a great week off The Beat is hosted and executive

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Speaker 2: produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer Lang Lee.

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Speaker 2: Our senior producer is Diego Tapia. Our producers are Liz Hayes,

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Speaker 2: Hannah Harris and Emily Carr. Our talent producer is Ryan

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Speaker 2: Papa Zachary, and our intern is Ali Amir Sahi. Our

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Speaker 2: theme song Bubble and Squeak, performed by the one and

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Speaker 2: only Creed Bratton,