1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: You're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast DAM 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Paranormal podcast network, where we offer you podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: and the unexplained. Get ready now for Beyond Contact with 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Captain Rong. 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premier Networks, or their sponsors 9 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 11 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: Hey everyone, it's Captain Ron and each on Beyond Contact. 12 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: We'll explore the latest news in ufology, discuss some of 13 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 3: the classic cases, and bring you the latest information from 14 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 3: the newest cases as we talked with the top experts. 15 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: Welcome to Beyond Contact. I am Captain ronand today we're 16 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: speaking with producer and director Timothy E. Burke. Tim works 17 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 3: with film producers raising financing for major motion pictures. He 18 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 3: is interested in blending film and technology to deliver innovative, 19 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: groundbreaking projects. Tim is also very well versed in all 20 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 3: things UFO. And is developing a TV series titled Shadow State, 21 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: which is an X File style supernatural thriller, and has 22 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 3: also created a project called Planet X, which is based 23 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: on the original Sumerian texts. All right, up our alley, Hey, Tim, 24 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: how you doing, brother? 25 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 4: I'm doing fantastic ron Thank you so much for having me. 26 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 4: This is my first public kind of interview podcast on 27 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 4: the phenonmon wab you. So it just came about naturally, 28 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 4: and it's just wonderful to talk to you. I love 29 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 4: meeting you up at your incredible events in the desert, 30 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 4: and I actually invited to go meet Ross cold taught 31 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 4: up there and I ended up having dinner with Danny Sheenan, 32 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 4: which is another obviously huge fan of his work. Incredible 33 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 4: work both of those guys have done. 34 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: Though. Yeah, absolutely, uh okay. Well, before we dive into 35 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: the UFO talk, I want to ask you a question 36 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: as a filmmaker, how do you feel about the phenomenon 37 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: and how it's portrayed in film. It's always frustrating to 38 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 3: me when I see how often it's so misportrayed by Hollywood. 39 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: Like I have these discussions numerous times with Travis Walton. 40 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: You know, they made his story in the film. Yeah, 41 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 3: he did a film. They did it called Fire in 42 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: the Sky, but he doesn't like it because it's it's so, 43 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: you know, misrepresents his version of the state of the tale, 44 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: so it's not very accurate in his view. Why can't 45 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 3: they just take his word for word right off the deck, 46 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: right off of what he says. Isn't that interesting enough? 47 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: Why doesn't Hollywood just do that? 48 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 4: That's such a great question. But what just brings to 49 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 4: mind quickly, Number one, I would always go back to 50 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: Close Encounter Steven Spielberg, and I love that and I 51 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 4: think anybody thinks that is a fantastically beautifully put together 52 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 4: film that showed a phenomenon at a very incredible way, 53 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 4: and it's a beauty and obviously the director's cut, Spielberg's 54 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 4: director's cut. I mean, you know, when they find the 55 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 4: boat in the desert, it's just wild, it's so beautiful. 56 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 4: It's just classic Spielberg, and he's one of my absoluteroes. 57 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 4: But going back to Travis, I honestly feel ron it's 58 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 4: not just on just this UFO topic. I feel they 59 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 4: hash up many different stories throughout history. I mean, you 60 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 4: could argued that you know, the recent Napoleon film, which 61 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 4: I thought in cinema, I thought was pretty good, but 62 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 4: there's always going to be somebody that said, oh, that's 63 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 4: not quite how it happens. Obviously, coming back to his 64 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 4: arsenal portrayal, yes, you know, I mean, how do you 65 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 4: portray what happened to him on film? You know, you're 66 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: always going to get it slightly wrong and other court 67 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 4: you know, they come back. You know, that's a classic thing. 68 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 4: You know, Studio execs and studios have always changed things, 69 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: haven't they for audience numbers, whatever, investors, who knows, who knows. 70 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 4: It must be annoying for him, But I feel they 71 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 4: do get it right as well. But this is why 72 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 4: I like documentaries, because documentaries it's much more interesting watching 73 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: a documentary. When it comes to the phenomena, I think. 74 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: No doubt about it. Do you do you think it's 75 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: possible that there's a connection between Hollywood going back to 76 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: say the fifties films when they had like The Day 77 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: the Earth Stood Still and those type of films, were 78 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: they being used as a soft disclosure? Do you think 79 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: as some people hypothesize. 80 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 4: I don't think so, because I just think it's only 81 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 4: natural that filmmakers are going to make movies about sci 82 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 4: fi and the UFOs and you know, the most fascinating 83 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 4: the universe and why we're here. It's the most fascinating topic, 84 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: isn't it. So you know, you do hear stories about 85 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 4: CIA being embedded. Definitely the press. I believe that. I 86 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: don't know if they're embedded into Hollywood. They probably knock 87 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 4: on some people's doors. I mean, look, I heard recently 88 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 4: that Parney Netflix aren't taking on any new UFO documentaries. 89 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 4: I was actually text a very famous film. We've all 90 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 4: seen his work about this yesterday. Who knows, but yeah, 91 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 4: going back to the fifties, I mean that was a 92 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 4: good movie. Even the remake with Canneries, that was actually 93 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 4: a good That was a good spin on things. I 94 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 4: often think what it would be like if they did 95 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 4: land on the White House law and everyone says, oh, well, 96 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 4: why don't they land on the White House? Lam were 97 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 4: nineteen fifty two. They pretty much did over Washington on 98 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 4: two weekends in a row. You can't really get closer 99 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 4: than them literally landing there. And then obviously we are 100 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 4: unfortunately quite a violent race, and you know, we're probably 101 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 4: just trying to attack them. I think our natural thing 102 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 4: is to attack these things, try and bring them down, 103 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 4: steal the technology, finance technology. On other planets, there would 104 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 4: be a completely different way to summon in or greet 105 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 4: eties extraterrestrials. It will be a completely different way. 106 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jim, what get you first interested in this subject? 107 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 4: I don't really know much. I've always been fascinated in it. 108 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 4: I will actually think about that. The other day somebody 109 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 4: asked me, I've always always been fascinating this subject and 110 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 4: always want to do this kind of New X File 111 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: style kind of TV show and then always have this 112 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 4: crazy planet x sci fi star wars on steroids. Really, 113 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: but it's very intelligent sci fi because it's all on 114 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 4: a hypervelocity Sara star system. It's on a tidy lot planet. 115 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 4: It's about Elixa. It's about the mythology of what an 116 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 4: ancient alien race would be like, how they would operate. So, 117 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 4: I mean, you know there's no money on this planet, 118 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 4: money to any other civilization, and be like, well, what 119 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 4: is that? That sounds terrible? 120 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 3: Total We feel that. Do you have a favorite pace 121 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: that you like in history? 122 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 4: That's a great Oh my god, I love that. I 123 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 4: don't know I love sha Harbor because that comes to mind, 124 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 4: because I do believe in the submerged UFOs. That was 125 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 4: such an interesting case that they were followed over two weeks, 126 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 4: they were underwatered for a long long time. That for 127 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 4: me was an interesting case. I know a lot of them. 128 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,559 Speaker 4: I love the older ones. Shag Harbor definitely comes to mind. 129 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, the one I forget the name of it. 130 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: The two fishermen and apparently they went up and got 131 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 4: into the spaceship and then at the police station they 132 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 4: were secretly filming their audio. 133 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's the two guys, the two fishermen. Oh 134 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: my god, what is his name? Why can't I think 135 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: of it? 136 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 4: It was weird because they secretly filmed the audio, and 137 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 4: you would think if they were making it all up, 138 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 4: you know, they'd be like, okay, son, just you know, 139 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 4: you're doing a good job, blah blah blah, go along 140 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 4: with it. But they didn't. They were like, very very 141 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 4: scared when they both left the room. And God, if 142 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 4: that's the case, that is absolutely terrifying. And that's the 143 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 4: other reason I feel just closure isn't really happening, because 144 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 4: you know, the abduction thing again, I went, you know, 145 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 4: go back to if one part of this is true, 146 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 4: probably the whole thing is true. There's certainly elements of it, 147 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 4: and so therefore the abduction is ductshit cases has probably happened, 148 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 4: probably happening to a lot of people. I mean, I 149 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 4: actually watched the Whitley documentary, the guy that wrote Communion 150 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 4: the other day. 151 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was you know, it's Calvin Parker and 152 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: Charlie Hickson. That's the case you'. 153 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, Yeah, yeah, I mean, I tell you what, 154 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 4: here is something for your listeners that they probably would 155 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 4: not have known. This one. For me, it's the most 156 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 4: fascinating one of them mornings. It's it's very unheard one 157 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 4: of the original YouTube guys Alien Case Files or Sealed 158 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 4: Team six. Anyway, there was a fit bit leak, right, 159 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: so all of these security guys had these fit bits, 160 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 4: these these and I wrote about this in the Shadow 161 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 4: in Shadow State because for me, this is like such 162 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: an incredible leak. And they all these guys had their 163 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 4: their fitbits and they were doing circles around their military 164 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 4: basis and there were all these different different secret military 165 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: bases in Germany all around the world that were discovered 166 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 4: because there were these fitbid leaks data that was taken 167 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 4: around these militaries, but there was one in Antarctica. There 168 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 4: was these fitbits going around this spot in Antarctica. And look, 169 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 4: Linda Molten, How's creators work is all about Antarctica and 170 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 4: there's something something has gone on there, something might still 171 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: be then. And somebody were telling me the other day 172 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 4: could have been a split Nazi civilization that went on, 173 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: because obviously the Nazis had a base in Antarctica, but 174 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 4: maybe they were, let you know, maybe they had a 175 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 4: lot of money. They're okay, guys, you just stay here, 176 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 4: you just living, you know, and we don't ever want 177 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 4: to see you again. But who knows. Who knows. There's 178 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 4: definitely definitely something is going on up there, and that 179 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 4: was interesting. I'd like to find out where that location 180 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 4: was again. 181 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 3: Actually, brad Olsen's releasing his new book on an Aartica 182 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: when he was down there, and he does cite all 183 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: these locations where they're located. We need to take a 184 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: break here, Tim. When we come back, we're going to 185 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 3: ask you about any experiences that you may have had 186 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 3: directly yourself. You're listening to be an on contact on 187 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 188 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 3: We are back on Beyond Contact. We're speaking with Timothy Burke. 189 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: Tim have you ever had a personal UFO sighting of 190 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 3: your own? 191 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 4: It's so interesting because when I was talking to Richard Dola, 192 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 4: I was driving back from COVID and I was in La. 193 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 4: I'm a pretty level headed guy, but honestly, I freaked 194 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 4: out most I was like, and I was, I got 195 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 4: to get out of La. So I went up to 196 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 4: north of LA and I lived in a beautiful airbnb. 197 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: I was actually quite lucky. But anyway, when I was 198 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 4: kind of back three months later or two months, I 199 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: was driving back and I decided to go by the 200 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 4: Big Sir, and I'm up on the Big sur and 201 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 4: it's like, honestly, it was about three am. I hadn't 202 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 4: seen any boats or any lights or anything out to 203 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 4: see that whole drive. 204 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: That's good. 205 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 4: It's a good, like six or seven hour drive up 206 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 4: the coast, beautiful drive, and it's just like a movie, honestly, 207 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 4: like a Spielberg movie. I get out of the van 208 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 4: that I'm driving down and it's all foggy. I couldn't 209 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 4: scend thing. But I saw these two huge lights, one 210 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 4: and there were different colored. They were so far apart, 211 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 4: but they were obviously connected, and they were right up 212 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 4: into the ocean. They were like sitting there, so it 213 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 4: would have been like not far out, probably like twenty 214 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 4: feet out. And I'm like, it's you know, it's like 215 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 4: a movie. It's foggy, you can't make it out. But 216 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 4: why are these two lights right here? I haven't seen 217 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 4: anything all day. I tried to stay up for the 218 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 4: rest of the night. I was a bit I was 219 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 4: a bit scared, actually, so I was like, this is 220 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 4: the perfect place for Aerial Killer to hang out because 221 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 4: I'm literally the only person in this clip for so 222 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 4: many hours in either way. But I'd like to go 223 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 4: back to that, to that advantage point and check it out, 224 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 4: because again, that's apparently a hotspot, that whole area up, 225 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 4: you know, Catalina dig So. And then there was another 226 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: time I saw a couple of orbs down in Florida, 227 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 4: and that was it, But that was an interesting time. Yeah, 228 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 4: to this day, I just I do know what that was. 229 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 4: And you know, who knows the phenomena I feel plays 230 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 4: tricks on people, you know, it's Oh, was that a thing. 231 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 4: Was it not a thing? You know, it's it's it's 232 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 4: never like plain as day, is it. I don't think no. 233 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 4: I think I'll keep you guess that way right. Very 234 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 4: rarely do people feel confident in what they saw. You know, 235 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 4: you've been looking at this for quite a long time. Now, 236 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 4: what do you think the source of this phenomenon is? 237 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 3: Are you more of a nuts and bolts that came 238 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 3: across the galaxy kind of guy, or more inter dimensional 239 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: or maybe even something else. 240 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 4: I honestly, Ron, I honestly think it goes back to 241 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 4: that famous saying you know where, where are that famous saying, 242 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 4: Oh I heard about I think they're absolutely everywhere. I 243 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 4: actually think we are being inundated by multiple species, multiple civilizations. 244 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 4: It's into dimensional. It's I literally think it's everything. But 245 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 4: I think it's being so well kept secret. And now 246 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 4: obviously people are coming out and talking about it. But 247 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 4: I literally think it's absolutely everything. And now they're talking 248 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 4: about interdimensional, they're talking about angels and demons and gin 249 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 4: and all the old ancient things that people believed in. 250 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 4: So it's all part of that. It is part of 251 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 4: our creators. I'm sure of it because I personally believe 252 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: in the ancient Adian theory that somebody manipulated our the DNA. 253 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 4: I also believe that, you know, we probably are living 254 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 4: in a huge matrix situation, probably some kind of test. 255 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 4: You know. It's interesting John Lear who really actually told 256 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 4: George Knapp all about this back in the day. He 257 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 4: talked about us all being containers of the soul. The 258 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 4: bodies irrelevant, it's so what's inside these So and I 259 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 4: believe in heaven and how I really do, and that's 260 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 4: why we will have to do as best we can 261 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 4: on this planet because we probably go somewhere after this. 262 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 4: So but yeah, I absolutely believe in all of it. 263 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, the soul comes up a lot even with me, 264 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: and other people think that as well. They seem to 265 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 3: think that that could very well, that we're just a vessel, 266 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 3: you know. Tim. There's also the other math. The accepted 267 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 3: age of the universe is thirteen point seven billion years old, 268 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: and Earth's only four and a half billion years old, 269 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 3: so you know, you got that. And then our galaxy 270 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: alone supposedly has around two hundred billion planets, and they 271 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 3: now think there's around two hundred trillion galaxies. So there's 272 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: a lot of opportunity there, right, Tim. 273 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 4: Well, I honestly, as crazy as this sounds, and I 274 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 4: don't fully believe this, I really don't, but I don't know. 275 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 4: I just come to think the numbers are so big. 276 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 4: Wouldn't it be easier for them just to make all 277 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 4: this a hologram and it just to be this one Earth? 278 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 4: And because there is these very interesting theories about the 279 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 4: hologram theory, which is interesting. Do we all live in 280 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 4: the matrix? I don't know. It just seems so insanely 281 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 4: big and vast, and nobody really talked about life on 282 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 4: other planets, so it was always about planet Earth. What 283 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 4: does man want to control planet Earth so much? Why 284 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 4: is it so important? Why is there so many war 285 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 4: Why are they always trying to control Planet Earth? I 286 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 4: don't know, it's interesting. I'm just open to all theories, 287 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 4: all ideas. 288 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 3: The simulation theory, Tim is really gaining momentum as well. 289 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: And it's interesting that I've recently heard how that the 290 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 3: simulation theory really is about us living by the rules 291 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: of a closed system, and that how it doesn't render 292 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: these other things until we put these telescopes up and 293 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: we could see other galaxies that they weren't even rendered. 294 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 4: It's the whole idea of well that has been proven 295 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 4: you see by that very famous experiment with the splits, 296 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 4: you know, shooting the proton through the splits, right, and 297 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 4: then you have something visibly watched the protons go through. 298 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 4: It could be pregnent electrons that I forget and they 299 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 4: they form differently. So that has been proven, like to 300 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 4: a level. The simulation theory has actually been been proven. 301 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: I mean it's it's the observer brilliant, brilliant. Yeah. And 302 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 4: it's interesting because when you play Grand Theft Autech, for example, 303 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 4: that part of the world renders when you go down 304 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 4: to that part of the world. The rest of it 305 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 4: is unrendered until you look at it. So it could 306 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 4: be in this insanely insanely advanced computer games. And you know, 307 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 4: I was watching this show on Amazon. You know that 308 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 4: even inside the vacuum there is electrons and protons forming, 309 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 4: grabbing energy, moving and then it's it's so interesting. You know, 310 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 4: at the quantum level gets very weird, but I think 311 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 4: gets real strange. I mean, I don't understand it. I 312 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 4: have no idea, way above my pay grade, but it 313 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 4: is fascinating when you hear about it way, but that 314 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 4: experiment honestly has always interested me, and it. 315 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 3: Does add credibility to the simulation theory. What do you 316 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: think is the strongest piece of evidence that we have 317 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 3: that the phenomenon is real? 318 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm kind of thinking Roswell because there's so 319 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 4: much evidence, and you know, the book The Day After 320 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 4: Roswell is very very interesting and it talks about what 321 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 4: really happened in detail on that day. I don't know. 322 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 4: I mean, there's that amazing case, you know, with the 323 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 4: Japanese airliner. There's a lot of well documented cases, but 324 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 4: the older ones of evidence. 325 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: Roswell is what I always point to too. There's such 326 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 3: a vast amount of things that fit so well together 327 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: in that case that I feel like that is one 328 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: of the strongest cases we have with a lot of 329 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 3: reporting evidence. When we come back, we're going to ask 330 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 3: him about his thoughts on government disclosure and his impressions 331 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 3: of the new disclosure film, The Age of Disclosure. You're 332 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 3: listening to be on Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast 333 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 3: to Coast am Paranormal podcast network. We are back on 334 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 3: Beyond Contact talking to Tim Burke. Hey, Tim, what are 335 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 3: your thoughts on an official, big d government disclosure. Do 336 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 3: you think we'll ever get that? 337 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 4: I think disclosure as honestly a personal thing. Disclosure doesn't 338 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 4: even interest for some people. You know, they're just more 339 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 4: interested in posting on social media and getting some followers. 340 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 4: And that's great for some people. Disclosure really happens when 341 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 4: you do a deep dive into this subject, and that's 342 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 4: cool because you're really finding out stuff yourself. You're finding 343 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 4: out what's what's real, what's not, what could be real, 344 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 4: what might not be. I mean, look, it is the 345 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 4: most interesting topic there. It is, hands down. This is 346 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,239 Speaker 4: why I love it so much. I talk about it 347 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 4: all the time. It's a very intelligent. It takes a 348 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 4: lot of manpower. It blows your mind really when you 349 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 4: think about it. You know, we are being visited by it. 350 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 4: Who knows. It's interesting the split off civilization. They're definitely 351 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 4: underwater somewhere. Going back to your question, there was an 352 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 4: amazing footage of an ORB coming into Lanet Earth and 353 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 4: there was a flash. It's actually a teaser trailer for 354 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 4: the Shadow State TV show that I've done. And then 355 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 4: there's a flash and then another ORB shoots out very quickly, 356 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 4: and then this thing just does a right hand and 357 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 4: just heads out. You know, I think that's interesting, and 358 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 4: I actually really think the whole of the Earth is alive, 359 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 4: is a living organism, living consciousness. You know, when you 360 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 4: get into the whole DMT and all that stuff, you 361 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 4: can kind of like feel that I feel, which would 362 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 4: make sense. 363 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 3: You know. 364 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 4: Even the universe is spanding and morphing, so it's all 365 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 4: a living, breathing thing. Yeah, I mean, we all come. 366 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 3: I think it's possible more than one of these things 367 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: is true. You know, it is possible we had beings 368 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 3: coming from across the galaxy and interdimensionally and perhaps other 369 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 3: ways and or to the afterlife. I think we just 370 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 3: don't know. Yeah. You know, you had a chance to 371 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 3: see the upcoming film Age of Disclosure, which comes out 372 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 3: this November and features thirty four senior US government insiders. 373 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: What did you think of that film? 374 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 4: The most interesting? I watched it in Austin at the Paramounts. 375 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 4: They had a fantastic They did an incredible job with 376 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 4: that much. I actually met some of the people involved 377 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 4: as well afterwards. I'll tell you something very interesting. What 378 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 4: I discovered from the film was they're trying to figure 379 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 4: out how these UFOs are powered and the energy involved 380 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 4: in move did these things and there's always a bubble 381 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 4: around the object. So they obviously think that they have 382 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 4: their own dealing in their own time and space and 383 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 4: dimension and the energy that they're needed to create that. Well, 384 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 4: Eric the guy, the PhD guy who's on the film said, 385 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 4: I don't know how he worked it out. I did 386 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 4: actually ask him. He said, it takes the amount of 387 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 4: en that America uses in one year to parently power 388 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 4: this UFO and for it to be moving in this word. 389 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 4: And I was like, I don't know how you can 390 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 4: work that out, but he said this, and then they 391 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 4: basically think that it's being pulled in. The energy is 392 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 4: being pulled in, probably by quantum mechanics, like quantum you know, 393 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 4: they're basically pulling in in a kind of quantum way 394 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 4: where it's all connected and maybe through a dice and 395 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 4: a dicense fit because obviously that's the amount of energy 396 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 4: you would need, so they're just pulling an from a place. Obviously, 397 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 4: with you know, quantum mechanics, everything's instant. It can be 398 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 4: the biggest amount of distance. You know, something here changes 399 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 4: in something that exactly the same time, So that was interesting. 400 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 4: It's beyond me. 401 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably Eric Davis. That is incredible. Yeah, Tim, 402 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 3: do you think that these hearings are doing us any good? 403 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 3: You know? I was pretty impressed with this last one 404 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 3: with George Knapp, and the questions that were asked were 405 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 3: quite smart and informed. It seemed like some of these 406 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 3: Congress people were familiar with this, you know, knowledge in 407 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 3: this area. What are your impressions of the hearings? 408 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 4: Well, obviously I feel that they're an incredible step forward. 409 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 4: I do feel that these guys, like I do love 410 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 4: the work that Tim Pittchett is doing. And obviously and 411 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 4: I've actually written like characters based on these amazing political 412 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 4: figures in this Shadow State TV show because their works 413 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 4: incredible and it's they're very difficult obviously to be, you know, 414 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 4: to have a kind of a secret entity trying to 415 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 4: suppress the knowledge which you know, you can understand where 416 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 4: they're coming from, because there is this whole warm war, 417 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 4: which is the technology of alien reverse alien technology from 418 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 4: the Russians and the Chinese that is definitely happening. I 419 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 4: get it. So their job is to get tech technology 420 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 4: and unfortunately they're just using it for weapons. You know, 421 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 4: it's a shame because you can create these amazing zero 422 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 4: point energy devices and machines that will solve all of 423 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 4: the energy problems. So I wish there we'd been used 424 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 4: for that. But yeah, I mean, obviously the Congress hearings 425 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 4: are great. I mean, I do think they're doing an 426 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 4: amazing job. They just have to keep on going, you know, 427 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 4: they just have to keep on pushing, and everyone has 428 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 4: to do what they can suppose, you know. And the 429 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 4: people that keep all the secrets, it's a shame. I 430 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 4: wonder how many people there are. It's probably about I 431 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 4: don't know, who knows, maybe about four hundred, five hundred 432 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 4: people that really know, because it's all very you know, 433 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 4: compartmental life, very yeah, exactly, so you don't really know, 434 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 4: but it's fascinated probably probably all coming. And that's why 435 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 4: I love Ross cotharts work and I really respect his work, 436 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 4: you know, and shadows State there's a big character written 437 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 4: about his work because he came from Australia to America. 438 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 4: Started trying to figure out all the MJ twelve or 439 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 4: and the relations and who might have been past information 440 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 4: from MJ twelve. Started to put letters out not electronic 441 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 4: but letters through people's you know, postbox, and said, look, 442 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 4: I'm going to be staying here for six months, and 443 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 4: he started to receive letters back, you know, and then 444 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 4: it was starting to get information. So it's just such. 445 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 4: I mean, from a TV point of view, A created 446 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 4: writers quite a bit like the coolest thriller espionage TV show, 447 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 4: and I obviously love James Bond as well. So it's 448 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 4: just everything. And obviously the congressional things are so important 449 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 4: when it comes to that as well. Yeah, they just 450 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 4: have to keep on pushing through. 451 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 3: You know, you're in the technology and filmmaking. What are 452 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 3: your thoughts on all this new tech we're seeing with 453 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 3: AI now being able to create these deep fakes. Much 454 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: of this is very photo realistic, and I feel like 455 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 3: if you did actually catch something on video, no one's 456 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 3: gonna believe it anyway, because it can so easily be 457 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: faked today. 458 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, and that's maybe why the the ets, 459 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 4: whoever they are, you know, one bros. Maybe they might 460 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 4: have to be like, you know what, we actually might 461 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 4: have to go and land on the Washington you know, 462 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 4: front lawn now because nobody's gonna believe us anyway, that's 463 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 4: so true. I know it's crazy, isn't it. I mean, 464 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 4: AI is getting but look, we're trying to create AI 465 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 4: models and put in all the UFO cases that you know, 466 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 4: even we have contact with Jack Belaze people to try 467 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 4: and build out a model, an AI model to try 468 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 4: and figure out where these entities are from and you know, 469 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 4: pot spots and what have you. But yeah, you're you're right, 470 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 4: it's impossible. You know, you see so much stuff on 471 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 4: social media now you're like, oh my god, that looks amazing. 472 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 4: It's you know, you just don't know. You know, probably 473 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 4: a lot of it is AI. You know, it's getting 474 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 4: so easy now. I mean, AI is brilliant. I don't 475 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 4: hate on it. It's fantastic. I love it. You know, 476 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 4: I love physical filmmaking obviously much more so. It's a 477 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 4: happy medium, isn't it. Between AI filmmaking. You know, it's 478 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 4: the hardest thing trying to fund the film. Even the Grapes, 479 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 4: you know, they said, oh, we spent ninety five of 480 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 4: our times trying to spend the money to make a movie. 481 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 4: That's five percent of our time you know, making the movie. 482 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 4: That's that's no way to live a life. 483 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 3: That's what I feel filmmaking is it's raising money to 484 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 3: make a film. It's terrible. When we come back, we're 485 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 3: going to talk to him about the phenomenon being extra 486 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 3: tempestrial us from the future. You're listening to Beyond Contact 487 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 3: on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. 488 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 3: We are back on Beyond Contact talking to Tim Burke. Hey, Tim, 489 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 3: what do you think about that idea? Brother, the extra 490 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 3: tempestrial hypothesis? You know, us coming back from the future, 491 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 3: and that's perhaps who's visiting now. 492 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 4: So here's an interesting one. I was seeing Jerry bi 493 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 4: Corpel's footage of the octopus UFO, right, the one the 494 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 4: thermal image when it comes in and out. If we 495 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 4: went to another plan, we would have a probe, right, 496 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 4: it would come out. It would you know, go into 497 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 4: an alien environment as a program. Would it would fly around, 498 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 4: wouldn't it. I Mean that's exactly what this thing's doing. 499 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 4: So has it come from the future an object? And 500 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 4: also this this booger spit. It's kind of interesting, isn't it. 501 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 4: You know, maybe that's just been dropped in. Apparently there's 502 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 4: lots and lots of different you know, thermal reading. Did 503 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 4: you see the photage they were trying to steal that 504 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 4: the other day, some fake cops were trying to come 505 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 4: in and steal it. Did you see that? 506 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 3: No, that's unbelievable. 507 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 4: That's you know, that's another crazy scene. But yeah, how 508 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 4: would that even work? Like, how would that even work? 509 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 4: They're in the future, you know, they've invented time travel, right, 510 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 4: and then what they're sending back one of these objects 511 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 4: they're saying about whole ufo. You know, are they downloading 512 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 4: you know, consciousness into a machine, sending back a clone, 513 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 4: and then uploading the consciousness again into the clown, which 514 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 4: is interesting because that some people think the grades could 515 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 4: be like little biological robots. You know, that made sense. 516 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I love Side Fi. Planet X was my 517 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 4: first project I ever wrote. I mean, at the time, 518 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 4: fifteen years ago, was you know, I just got to 519 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 4: LA and I was trying to make one hundred and 520 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 4: fifty million dollar movie with no credit. 521 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 3: That's a game. 522 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 4: Now actually now with a it's slightly more easier. I 523 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 4: still consume you difficult, but yeah, it's interesting. I mean, 524 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 4: I do not know, I really did listen. 525 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 3: Well, this is an interesting cops up too, Tim what 526 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 3: about the idea that sci fi TV and movies can 527 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: pave the way for the future, like so many things before, 528 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: like going to the moon even or FaceTime that we 529 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: now all have, you know, Dick Tracy had that seventy 530 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 3: years ago. 531 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 4: I mean I feel, honestly now everything is being done. 532 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 4: I mean literally we have everything. We don't quite have 533 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 4: the Star Trek stuff, you know. I honestly, you think 534 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 4: anything is possible. You know, if you have the technology 535 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 4: and you have the billions of years of below evolution, 536 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 4: I think anything is possible. I mean, look, the universe 537 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 4: is insane, incredible place. It's insane to think we were 538 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 4: cave men at one point and now we have flying cars. 539 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 4: That for me is just bizarre. It's just it's just 540 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 4: mind blowing and that and that comes down to the Earth. 541 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 4: I mean literally we did all come from planet Earth. Really, 542 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 4: so you could say, really the Earth created created everything, 543 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 4: created man, man created machine, you know, machine created AI. 544 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 3: Well, if we don't blow ourselves up, I'd love to 545 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 3: see where we're going to be in a thousand years. 546 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 4: That is this well, that's you know, I mean that 547 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 4: or it is I mean, God, anybody should watch the 548 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,719 Speaker 4: you know, the nuclear arsenal of the planet. It's the 549 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 4: most diabolisical, stupidest thing that we've ever come across and done. 550 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 4: And I don't know why we would have so many 551 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 4: nuclear weapons that could just destroy everything and everybody instantly. 552 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 4: I mean, it's just absolutely completely insane. And obviously that's 553 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 4: why the UFOs have always been around nuclear silos, you know, 554 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 4: all of the nuclear military installations that they're always keeping 555 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 4: an eye on it. Actually, I tell you what, going 556 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 4: back to the footage the one evidence the Japanese nuclear 557 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 4: leak after the earthquake, that was very interesting footage with 558 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 4: all those orbs floating around the nuclear power station. That 559 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 4: was very interesting. 560 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you know, you know, if all this technology 561 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 3: we're talking about, tim, do you think we could have 562 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 3: a real project Bluebeam a staged fake invasion? 563 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 4: My god, that's such a good question. I mean, are 564 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 4: you obviously following the three i Atlers stuff, aren't you right? 565 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 4: It's just blowing up. You know, that's interesting. There's there's 566 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 4: a thousand Draco soldiers in this AI Atlers. I mean, 567 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,719 Speaker 4: it's just and saying how people go and get I 568 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 4: don't know, it's an interesting one. I'm a I love conspiracies. 569 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 3: So you have these two projects now that are UFO 570 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 3: based at least related to the topic, in Planet X 571 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: and Shadow State. Do you have a mission within those 572 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: two projects that you're trying to convey. 573 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 4: It's really I would like to pay homage. I'd really 574 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 4: like to tell the very accurate true story of the 575 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 4: phenomena from the nineteen thirty eight we think that was 576 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 4: the first crash in actually in northern Italy. Mussolini's people 577 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 4: took it, they thought it was from the from the Germans, 578 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 4: and then obviously after the Second World War the Americans 579 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 4: picked it up. But also paying homage to all of 580 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 4: the big characters, George nat Ross, I mean all of them. 581 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 4: I mean, we've got a whole list of people. I 582 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 4: mean I've been talking to a lot of people. I've 583 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 4: met a lot of them. Danny Sheener's another one. I mean, obviously, 584 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 4: Jeremy Corbell has done a major work, Linda's done and 585 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 4: made Stephen Greer has obviously done great way. I mean, 586 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 4: you're trying to include everybody and pay a little bit 587 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 4: of homage to everybody, and that's why it'd be nice 588 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 4: to include political people, because they really are shedding lights 589 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 4: on the on the on the topic. You know, the 590 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 4: X five has got terror at the end, I mean 591 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 4: the the end. It started off great. It was so 592 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 4: interesting telling the story from the Men in Black's point 593 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 4: of view, from the deep state coup or military distri complex, 594 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 4: these secret government bases, that would be kind of interesting. 595 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 4: What do these guys know? You know, I'm sure they 596 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 4: have banks of computers and they are following UFO's ets 597 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 4: coming in and out about amosphere NonStop. I'm sure, I'm 598 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 4: sure they are, and they probably have scalar weapons scaring 599 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 4: them off. And that's their job. I mean, their job, 600 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 4: from their point of view is probably to protect the 601 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 4: whole planet. So you can understand why. Okay, well, we 602 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 4: can't really tell anybody what's going on, you know, because 603 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 4: our job is probably to protect. But obviously, you know, 604 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 4: we all want to obviously know, and we have a 605 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 4: right to know as well. But yeah, this show will 606 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 4: try and tell the story from their point of view, 607 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 4: which you know, Antarctica, what happens there. I mean, I 608 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 4: love the stow of ross cool tarts one about this 609 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 4: huge buried UFO that's so big it can't be moved. 610 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 4: I mean, wow, that's fascinating, Like where's there with. 611 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 3: The ice is melting? We might see more of that. 612 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 3: They won't be able to move it, which be really incredible. 613 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 4: My jobs, it's tough because it's a scripted show. I 614 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 4: would love like Amazon that just bought you know, Aged 615 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 4: disclosure or somebody from Amazon would would be great for this. 616 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 4: I think we'll see, Oh for sure. 617 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 3: I do feel like you're very well versed in this 618 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 3: and I really appreciate you taking the time to talk 619 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 3: to us. That was very interesting. Uh, what's the best 620 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 3: place people can reach you? 621 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 4: I'm setting up, like you know, to go into the field, 622 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 4: like you know, like a Fox, Molder and Scully when 623 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 4: they go in the field and they investigate the people 624 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 4: to go an interview be able so to called lights 625 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 4: in sky dot com, lights Insky dot com. There's actually 626 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 4: an email on there you can go to to proton email. 627 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 4: Just send us in an email and then yeah, that's 628 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 4: you know, we're just slowly building out the websites. We've 629 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 4: got a UFO hotline. I just set up the UFO 630 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 4: hotline on YouTube just before this podcast, so you can 631 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 4: just kind of obviously just add us on there and 632 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 4: then yeah, just contacts us through the website because we're 633 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 4: looking to meet people that want to be on the show. 634 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 4: We're looking to, you know, meet people that living near hotspots, 635 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 4: paranormal hotspots that might know people that would want to 636 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 4: be interviewed in what have you. 637 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 3: So it'd be a lot of fun to take that 638 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 3: road trip and go see these places in person. We're 639 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 3: out of time here, Tim, Thanks again. 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