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Speaker 2: Hey, what's up, everybody?

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Speaker 1: It's Vanessa Marshall, the voice of Harrisondula from Star Wars Rebels,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the Pod of Rebellion.

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Speaker 2: Today we have with us, Hi, It's Ta sur Carr,

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Speaker 2: voice of the being Rand Specter five. And with us,

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Speaker 4: It's your friendly neighborhood moderator John Lee Brody, and today

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Speaker 4: we're covering season two, episode sixteen, Homecoming. But first, as always,

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Speaker 4: there's nothing else Lea, So here we go, Season two,

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Speaker 4: episode sixteen, Homecoming Original air day, February seventeenth, twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 4: Supplies are low and pilots are dropping like flies Phoenix

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Speaker 1: So I don't mean to be a coward, and I

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Speaker 1: it it not being a regression.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, Taylor, who you were as a kid.

433
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 1: They put you in a box, you see them again,

434
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 1: and then you're fighting for the ten years of work

435
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: that you did.

436
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 2: You're not regressing.

437
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 1: I agree with you, but I also feel like as

438
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: a child, I mean, the only agency I had.

439
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 2: Was to ask for a coffin, like what are you doing?

440
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: You know, now as an adult, I have a greater agency,

441
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: and I feel like, yes, Tia, you deserve not to

442
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 1: be disregarded.

443
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: Good for you for advocating for yourself.

444
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 1: Like it's not a regression, but it is almost like

445
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: a demand to recognize not only the child's growth, but

446
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: the right to their difference.

447
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 2: And there's something universal about that. And while it isn't

448
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 2: a regression, it is necessary somehow, like it's part of

449
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 2: part of our healing.

450
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: And then as the episode comes to them sort of

451
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: hugging each other the way they did to me, that

452
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 1: is that makes it come full circle there that they

453
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: can have their difference of opinion and respect. You know,

454
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,239
Speaker 1: I became a leader because of everything you taught me

455
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 1: and he says that he's proud of her. That is

456
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: the kind of soul food to have a parent say

457
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: that they're proud of you. That's like being regarded, that's

458
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 1: like being taken out of that box. That's that's getting

459
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: current with our family of origin and being recognized for

460
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: who we become. And maybe that's why this satisfied me

461
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: so much, because I don't necessarily have that, and you know,

462
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm not. It's not that my parents don't see me,

463
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: but we just don't have the same worldview. There is

464
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: it a zen coon. There's something about you can't teach

465
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: a fish to breathe.

466
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 5: Air Wallace, right, you go, you go, commencement. I've listened

467
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 5: to that once a year. That's one of the best speechs.

468
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: Because and like the fish has a right to breathe

469
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: in water, and you know a bird or an animal

470
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: on land has the right to breathe air. And and

471
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: just because they'll never understand how that that that difference works.

472
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: They're both breathing simultaneously and both are valid. Uh, that's

473
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: not the point of how it's said. But I tend

474
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: to feel sometimes like I'm looking at my dad in

475
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: a pool of water, going like I don't know. I

476
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: got oxygen up here. I'm I'm I'll be over here.

477
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: You God bless enjoy the pond.

478
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 9: I don't know.

479
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, go first, No, no, you have a thought to you,

480
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 4: let go for it. I was going to relate.

481
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 5: I was gonna relate it to the star.

482
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 3: This bit in Star Wars is like, I imagine if Sean

483
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 3: met that's crazy because it's family, but met Harah here

484
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 3: without the history, it would be different, And that's sort

485
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: of my point as well as like it would just

486
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: be Captain Sindula like, it's cool that comes around and

487
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 3: refers to Harrah as Captain Sindula like. I think the

488
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 3: history of things is what makes it difficult because now

489
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 3: again it's all petistically relating to my thing is like

490
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 3: what if my parents just met me at twenty seven,

491
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 3: they wouldn't think any of those things and they'd be like, oh,

492
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,719
Speaker 3: this evolved firston whatever I'm trying to present, because they

493
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 3: wouldn't have all the things. But it's their little boy,

494
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 3: like they've seen thirteen years of this, so that that's

495
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 3: where it is also tough, because I don't think they're

496
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 3: so my opic and blind to it. It's just how

497
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 3: do you rewrite fourteen years? I mean, Malcolm, I say,

498
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 3: Malcolm McDowell.

499
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 4: We'll shout out to Malcolm.

500
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 3: Malcolm Blackwell has that thing. I mean, he's expounding on

501
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 3: a study but in blink I think, which might be

502
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 3: his first book. Is like they say, it takes however

503
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 3: many years to overwrite the first whatever ten seconds of

504
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: a first impression, right, Like we take someoney and we

505
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: make sense of it all, and then you have to

506
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: continually sort of disprove this for so long until someone

507
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 3: will think differently. Imagine if it's fourteen years or or

508
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 3: third the whole lifetime. Yeah, exactly, Like, of course it's

509
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 3: going to be difficult. That's me again, just sort of

510
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 3: talking to myself again.

511
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 4: I love that. Thank you all so much for being

512
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 4: open and sharing and being vulnerable, you know, because you know,

513
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 4: I think that's a sign of strength. People for so

514
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 4: long view vulnerability as like a weakness. It's like, no,

515
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 4: it takes strength to be vulnerable and open. And that's interesting. Taylor,

516
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 4: you being the oldest, Vanessa, you be the only child,

517
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 4: to you being the younger, I was the middle child.

518
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 4: So it's like, yeah, every single day of the spectrum

519
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 4: in terms of these sibling dynamics, and to complete my

520
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 4: thought about it not being a regression, it was like

521
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 4: in this particular case and these family dynamics, it's like

522
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 4: a systemic poll, you know. So this really, this really

523
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 4: ties into and I highly recommend to the three of

524
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 4: you and also four of you JC, because I know

525
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 4: what you're listening. On the back end, there's a book

526
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 4: called Good Reasonable People by this amazing guy named Keith Payne.

527
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: He's the University of North Carolina psychology professor, and he

528
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 4: wrote another book called The Broken Ladder about wealth gaps

529
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 4: and the psychological impact of being on part of this

530
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 4: broken wealth gap ladder. But in Good Reasonable People he

531
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 4: talks about why people have this anchor bias towards certain ideologies,

532
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 4: and he really breaks it down and that how that

533
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 4: parlays into Sean and Harah is that her growth in

534
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 4: some ways to him because of his anchoring bias, almost

535
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 4: feels like a threat because he wants to hold on

536
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 4: to the image of the daughter he knew back on

537
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 4: Ryeloth and because that Hara has grown so much. And

538
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 4: this also relates to us in real life, because we

539
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 4: grow so much, maybe outgrow the old version that people

540
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 4: knew that forces those forces those people to have to

541
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 4: reevaluate themselves. They wonder, am I a good?

542
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: Wait?

543
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 4: Am I a bad person? Because this person is clearly

544
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 4: become an evolved person themselves, and I want this version?

545
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 4: What does that mean for me? So I think that's

546
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 4: what the book is all about, and I think it's

547
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 4: a very important one, especially in these divisive times, that

548
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: we least try to understand some of the psychology. We're

549
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 4: not ever going to agree. Believe me, I know the

550
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 4: fish in the water all that stuff, one hundred percent.

551
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 4: Sometimes you just want to agree and you just got

552
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 4: to acknowledge that this is what it is. But for

553
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 4: Shaan's case, and I look at him and Hara, it's

554
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,719
Speaker 4: like I think they both want ultimately the same thing.

555
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 4: They both want to be rid of the empire. Their

556
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 4: approach is very very different until it's kind of not.

557
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 4: I think it still is by the end of this episode,

558
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 4: but they at least start to actually see each other

559
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 4: for who they are and meeting the current place and

560
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 4: just there's so much psychology on wrapping this episode and

561
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 4: the three years, so you know, intelligent and inquisitive and

562
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 4: always open to these and I was very excited to

563
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 4: bring this up today.

564
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: Well, a shout out also to Kat Tabor who played Numa.

565
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: Numa was in the Clone War that cat, yeah as Cat,

566
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: and she also was Phoenix two at the beginning. I

567
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: have a conversation, well she did the voice of the

568
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: Phoenix leader or yeah, Phoenix two. I was like, wait

569
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: a minute, is that cat? And then then obviously I

570
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: saw Numa. I was like, oh my god, that's this episode.

571
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: But bravo to Kat a voice of Ami Dala in

572
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: Clone Wars and she just got a new funko pop

573
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: go get It, get It signed Let's Go. But and

574
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: also Robin at can Downs. I mean, as a huge

575
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: Clone Wars fan. For me personally, there's there's a picture

576
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: of a little Tweetlek from the Clone Wars and everyone thought,

577
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: oh that's little hair.

578
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: And no it was Numa.

579
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: So so it for Clone Wars fans, it kind of comes

580
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: full circle a little bit more. But I just I

581
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: love the whole ryloth Arc from the Clone Wars and

582
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: maybe JC can speak more.

583
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: To that if he wants to.

584
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: But and one more thing about like Canaan, you know,

585
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: it's like prom night and he's meeting the dad doesn't

586
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: He introduced Ezra as Zeb's and choppers.

587
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: I didn't notice that.

588
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a let's to his hand on on Ezra's

589
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: like and this is Zeb.

590
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

591
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: I didn't. Wait. I think I know I already spoke

592
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: about this, but I think it is really Taylor you said,

593
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: it does give us, It like gives us more information

594
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: about Canaan's feelings for Harrow, which we never you know,

595
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: up till this point, you like don't really get to see,

596
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: and you don't He doesn't let us in on that

597
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: until now where he's all like flustered and getting his

598
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: friend's names wrong and you know, nervous, and then he

599
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: like runs into the the other room and he's like, hey,

600
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: your dad's not so bad, and you're sitting there stewing

601
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: clearly not you know, not enthused, and he's like, hey,

602
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: that guy's pretty cool over there, and like, what does happening?

603
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: It's adorable? And by the way, what about the betrayal?

604
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: Bro Oh my god, what a jerk? I wait are

605
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: you talking about your dad? My dad shoots everybody. After

606
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: all that, I was like forgot about that and I

607
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: was like, you traders, Yeah, that was what that was

608
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: messed up. Yeah.

609
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: So when she says you don't know him like I do,

610
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, yeah, get ready because he's about to

611
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: He's about to shoot you, dude.

612
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're the only one that doesn't get shot, right,

613
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: they like stunned everyone else, and he like spans you

614
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: because he's such a good dad. I guess. Anyway, Yeah,

615
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: that that took me by surprise. I guess I don't

616
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: remember this episode as well as I thought, but I

617
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: was like, oh, oh, snap. And then there's Imperial Steve again.

618
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: I was like, yep, there he is. Yeah, and.

619
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 3: Is there something that is there something that they like

620
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 3: allude to that she's had Chopper since yeah, and I'm

621
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: like a long time since.

622
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: She was like later, well that was like a snippet

623
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: of a backstory of that of that.

624
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I was like, oh sick, Like that was bad.

625
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 4: Beats right, Vanessa when they went into that. I believe it.

626
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: Was confirm with j C. I think.

627
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: He was recovered from a ship, but JC, I'm sure

628
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: will regale us with.

629
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 4: The exact some of the.

630
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: Take apart our like family trauma attention from that. I

631
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: think also, I think in the throng episode we see

632
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: the ship that Chopper came out of. I believe there's

633
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: after the Calakry is taken. I'm not if I'm not mistaken,

634
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: it's when it's when the famous quote that my home

635
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: is my crew and family or something like that that

636
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: that Harris says.

637
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think so.

638
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: There's a little bit revealed in the throng episode in

639
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: Star Wars Rebels and then more in Bad Batch as

640
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: far as I recall, but you know, I just moved,

641
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: so my my, I'm still recovering.

642
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: From You're doing well, You're doing You're doing Greek. The

643
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: last thing I wrote down that I loved, I wrote

644
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: it down twice. The music in this episode is so

645
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: sick when they call Captain Sindulla. The music is amazing,

646
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: and I because there's so much Star Wars music at

647
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: this point, like beautiful little themes of music and lines.

648
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 3: Some of them feel like we've heard them in like

649
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: some of the movies. Maybe I'm crazy or it's like

650
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: their take on it. But the music is just so good,

651
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 3: like the music and Rebels, because I haven't seen. Honestly,

652
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: the music is unbelievable.

653
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: I have felt that way since these episodes started airing.

654
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: You know, we had, we had recorded a bunch I

655
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: think we recorded, y'all, am I wrong? Did we record

656
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: all of season one before it ever aired? Isn't that right? Yeah? Yeah,

657
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: so we had recorded, however, many episodes of season one

658
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 2: before and before we saw anything, and then we watched

659
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Speaker 2: the first however many episodes that Disney screened for us,

660
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my god, this is so good.

661
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 2: The animation is beautiful. But the music.

662
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 5: Kevin Kiner you are, Yeah, it's really impressive.

663
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it gets better. I think, like I feel like,

664
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: are those two things I mean hopefully also like story

665
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: and character.

666
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I think that's why it gets better,

667
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 3: you know, when like the story is sure, sure.

668
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: Yes, fine, but like the animation and the music just

669
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: get better and better and better, like through the season.

670
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 5: He started kicking out some Monday.

671
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.

672
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 5: Wait the dimensional though.

673
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 10: Yeah, exactly. Well I have oh sorry, go ahead, go

674
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 10: go go. I have a question, but it sounds like

675
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 10: y'all don't have this question. So Ezra, I mean, Kanaan

676
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 10: tells Ezra that was your first Jedi mind trick?

677
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: Like way to go? Oh yeah, yeah, what I was

678
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: going to bring up? Yeah, he had done this before.

679
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: We've seen you.

680
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 11: Clutch though. This was like, didn't he practice it before?

681
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 11: This was like an actual I don't think you ever

682
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 11: pulled it off before. This was like, this is the

683
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 11: equivalent of to bring up the Lake Gray Kobe Bryant

684
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 11: his rookie year, he shot those four airballs, but then

685
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 11: it came back the year later, makes the All Star team.

686
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 11: Even though it came out the this was like, as

687
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 11: we're rising up and really embracing his his true oneness

688
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 11: because to my knowledge and jac could correct, please correct

689
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 11: us on this so that uh we don't get all

690
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 11: the fandom mad at us. But to my recollection, I don't.

691
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 11: I think this is the first time he just successfully

692
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 11: pulled it off. He's tried it before, but then Caan

693
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 11: always had a step in and go, okay, let me do it.

694
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 4: But this time. But I could be wrong, but.

695
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 12: No, ill to me, that's what I'm talking about beats

696
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 12: where like stakes are high and they're like but character moment,

697
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 12: let him try Yeah, okay.

698
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 3: Sure, like it doesn't matter if they survived that. It

699
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 3: always laugh at things like that, but it is it

700
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: is sweet. But I think you're I think he's tried

701
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 3: in the past, and it hasn't like been one hundred

702
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 3: percent in my brain.

703
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: And listen, that thing is faulty, so I can't. I

704
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: deferred to you guys who feel confident that you know

705
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: that that that is right. But I just thought, like,

706
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 2: in my brain, there's a time where you're talking to

707
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: like some imperial schmuck that's like you, you do the thing,

708
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 2: and they like don't question you further or something. Maybe

709
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 2: I'm just making that up, but I'm sure we wouldn't

710
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: have said that in the show if it weren't true.

711
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: But Jac, like, back me up here if I'm right,

712
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: If I'm right, maybe I'm very very wrong.

713
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 4: Well we'll find and right before we get to j C.

714
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 4: Because I think that's a nice segue. Vanessa, you brought

715
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 4: up the Clone Wars and the Ryeloft. I think the

716
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 4: Ryeloff trilogy in season one of Clone Wars. Uh. There

717
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 4: is a reference to Mace Wind in this episode, which

718
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 4: I appreciated, and the Battle of Lesu, which I know

719
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 4: that Jac will have expansive knowledge on. My question is

720
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 4: because Chom talks about oh he was out and Mace

721
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 4: was out number one hundred to one, but took him

722
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 4: all along. Now I believe that Mace wind It was

723
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 4: a bad m effort and and you know, because he

724
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 4: was mother. This is when we became the the R

725
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 4: rated podcast. You know, this is Welcome the Rebels after Dark.

726
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 4: I'm wondering, Jac, do you guys this is after Dark?

727
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 4: I'm wondering, JC, was that an accurate number? Like, do

728
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 4: you have any data on that? Or was that kind

729
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 4: of chem maybe embellishing the story a little bit, going

730
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 4: maybe it was fifty to one and not one hundred

731
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 4: to one, because you know, people like, oh yeah, I

732
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 4: fought like twenty guys and it was really like five.

733
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 3: You know.

734
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 4: That's That's what I'm curious about, Like, is there actual

735
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 4: data that says, oh, Mason wind New actually was out

736
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 4: numbered one hundred to one in the Battle of Lessuit

737
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,959
Speaker 4: Or or was Sean just pulling Canan's leg a little

738
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 4: bit to make him fan boy a little more? We

739
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 4: don't know, but let's what's up.

740
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 2: I have one other thing that I wanted to point out.

741
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: Did anyone else notice that Chom had vamp nail polish?

742
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 10: No?

743
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: Oh check it, let's go wow. So in the last

744
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: scene his fingers, I was like, bro, you're wearing vamp.

745
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: What is happening right now?

746
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: Mayingernails? Okay, honestly, I don't know.

747
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: My question, that's my last question for JC, was like,

748
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: what's up with a manny petty spirarfinger?

749
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 4: You're doing the spear fingers, So I'm bringing up job.

750
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: Has time for a little bit.

751
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: It was like a like Lincoln Park after dark I love.

752
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 9: Yeah, a lot of after dark things going on. Well

753
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 9: that that that after dark jop is a perfect segue.

754
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 9: That face he gave just says it all, like, Okay, I.

755
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 6: Have a couple of things.

756
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 13: The first is, man that I really enjoyed listening to

757
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 13: you guys talk today, So I didn't have a lot.

758
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:46,479
Speaker 2: Usually you're like, oh, these dumb dums.

759
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 13: Just like when you're talking about Star Wars, I have

760
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 13: a lot to say. When you're talking about those philosophy

761
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 13: and things like that. I'm like, yeah, I'm just gonna

762
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 13: sit back and enjoy it.

763
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 6: I did.

764
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 13: I did have a personal anecdote on code switching because

765
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 13: I don't sound like I'm from Texas and it's happened

766
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 13: on the podcast when we were talking about I remember

767
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 13: the sabah I you every now.

768
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: And again to boys from the Midwest.

769
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 13: So my sister was in a sorority when she was

770
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 13: in college, and my mom would come out and stay

771
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 13: with her, and after my sister would spend an afternoon

772
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 13: with my mom, she would go and talk to her

773
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 13: sorority sisters. And I remember specifically there was one instance

774
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 13: she was telling me about where they were talking about

775
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 13: telling time or decoration. She goes, oh, just look at

776
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 13: the clack, and they're like, what.

777
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 6: The clack? Just you tell time with a claque.

778
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 13: And because my mom, that's born and raised never left

779
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 13: the Chicago area, had that very like act act way

780
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 13: of speaking, and so my sister, who had been away

781
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 13: from home long enough to lose that type of accent

782
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 13: when she spent an afternoon with my mom, unbeknownst to

783
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 13: her totally, she would slip back into it. And then

784
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 13: somebody else is like, Sarah, I think you mean a clock.

785
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 13: She goes, yeah, the clack.

786
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, So does your mom say, Sarah, I

787
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: can't do it, Sarah, Yeah I can't, Sarah, that's how Yeah.

788
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 13: I've been away too long to even emulate it consciously.

789
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, when you guys go home, I mean not you, Taylor,

790
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: because you're basically home and YouTube. Vanessa, y'all are yealler

791
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 2: so cow? But when when y'all go home do you

792
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 2: sort of get like get back into your Midwest lilt

793
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 2: or pronunciation.

794
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 13: I've been away, I'm forty I'm about to turn forty five.

795
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 13: I left it eighteen and didn't come back.

796
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 2: You are not sorry?

797
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: One?

798
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 7: Yeah?

799
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 5: What?

800
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 6: Yeah? I turned forty five and.

801
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Twenty came your regiment, Jason, what do you

802
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 2: do with episode that? What you're doing?

803
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 13: But yeah, it's I've been away for so long. But

804
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 13: what I do notice when I go back is how

805
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 13: everybody else talks. And I'm like, oh my gosh, did

806
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 13: you guys always sound like this? And I just didn't

807
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 13: notice it because it's so heavy. So yeah, I think

808
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 13: there's I think it makes sense. I think it was

809
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 13: a great choice to allow her to slip into that,

810
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 13: because I think everybody does it without knowing it. I

811
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 13: have the French twileok accent was a request from George

812
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 13: Lucas during the Clone Wars to have a Lasakira, who's

813
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 13: the Blue Twilight Jedi speak with a French So it

814
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 13: came straight from George, and then I haven't been able

815
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 13: to find anything on this, but I may have like

816
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 13: a hot take, which.

817
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 2: Is because George.

818
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 13: If you ever talk to people who spend a lot

819
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 13: of time with George, or listen to like Seth Green

820
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 13: talk about spending time with George, Georges has is very

821
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 13: funny and he has a very dry wit, is what

822
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 13: people say about him. And so part of me started

823
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 13: to wonder the classic like French Ula la right, which

824
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 13: is all the Timela la Ula ula Ula from Return

825
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 13: of the Jedi is the Twilight Dancing Girl.

826
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 6: So do you.

827
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 13: Think that George reached back and was like, oh, the

828
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 13: Twilight Dancing Girl is Ula like oo la la, Like

829
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 13: it's French.

830
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 6: Of course she's French.

831
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 13: Do you think that that's tied tied together that way?

832
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: So we're gonna say yes, and I like it a lot.

833
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 13: Vanessa, you mentioned that Canaan introduces Ezra as zeb but

834
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 13: he also screws up Zevin Sabine, so he puts his

835
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 13: hand on Sabine's shoulder when he's talking about Ezra.

836
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 6: He like rotates all of them.

837
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how I miss.

838
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 6: That bad Batch.

839
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 13: Yes, this is the first hint we get at when

840
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 13: Harah met Chopper and then it's explored more in Devil's

841
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 13: Deal season one, episode eleven of bad Batch Taylor, you

842
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 13: mentioned the music, and I think part of what happens

843
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 13: with the music and rebels, or at least at what

844
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 13: I've seen, is that in season one it is very

845
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 13: much almost lifted note from note from the original Star

846
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 13: Wars trilogy is you're hearing very much like just John

847
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 13: will almost like straight take of John Williams. And particularly

848
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 13: with this episode, you heard hints of themes, but they

849
00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 13: kind of like remix and had their own surrounding World two.

850
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 13: So you're like, oh, that kind of sounds like Han

851
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 13: and Lard. This kind of sounds like Asteroid Field, but

852
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 13: it is more tailored directly to what's happening in the

853
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 13: show rather than just like lifting something from John Williams,

854
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 13: which I think you're seeing the evolution of this music

855
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 13: with the characters as you get to know the characters better,

856
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 13: which is pretty cool.

857
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 2: It is masterful, like masterful work to be able to

858
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: do that.

859
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 13: Then it is Ezra's first time using a Jedimid trick.

860
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 13: We watched him fail many times before the first time

861
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 13: he tries it is on a loftcat. Yeah, and then

862
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 13: he fails a bunch of times. This is his first

863
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 13: successful time.

864
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 6: And then I don't think there are any metrics on.

865
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Speaker 4: No analytics.

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Speaker 6: There are no analytics on that battle.

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Speaker 13: You know, it's only ever referenced by the people who

868
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Speaker 13: were part of the battles. So you know, maybe it's

869
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Speaker 13: maybe it's all a hoax.

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Speaker 4: Well, Stephen A. Smith, He'll be like, well, you know,

871
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Speaker 4: I talked the masonly Knew the other day, and I

872
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 4: understand in perpetuity allegedly that he did was out numbered

873
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 4: two hundred and one. It said one hundred and one.

874
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Speaker 4: And he's a phenomenal athlete. So that's what Stephen.

875
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Speaker 2: That's a really good Stephen A. Smith. And I hated it.

876
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 4: Because because it sounded too much like.

877
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Speaker 2: That was scary. Good No, thank you.

878
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 4: Never again, never again.

879
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Speaker 2: It's still free. Uh but it was very accurate. Wow.

880
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Speaker 2: So so no info on the on the old battle.

881
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Speaker 6: There, Yeah, there isn't anything.

882
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 4: It's like.

883
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: Me like, no matter what I say, like down in

884
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Speaker 2: the corner there just.

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Speaker 3: Well I know it.

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Speaker 1: So h.

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Speaker 6: That's what I got.

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Speaker 2: A thank you, And I want to judge any of

889
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Speaker 2: us on our family issues. Yeah, like do you know

890
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: do you guys watch this. It pops up on my

891
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 2: Instagram feed all the time. It's like, uh, Johnny on

892
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: the street, but she's a girl where she it's called

893
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: are you Okay? And she interviews people and celebrities and

894
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Speaker 2: people on the street.

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Speaker 5: Your algorithm, h what do you mean?

896
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Speaker 4: All chats?

897
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 7: Are you?

898
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Speaker 5: Are you okay?

899
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Speaker 2: It's called are you Okay? And she asks a series

900
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Speaker 2: of questions and then she decides, are you okay?

901
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Speaker 4: Can you send me like one of I would?

902
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 2: It's so great.

903
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 4: My entire algorithm is muck bangers. It's the people.

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Speaker 1: I have.

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Speaker 2: Mine's pretty eclectic. But are you okay? Pot or I

906
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Speaker 2: don't know what you would call it?

907
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 13: Like.

908
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: Series is really fascinating because it's like people on the

909
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: streets of New York. It's celebrities, you know. Oh yeah,

910
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: now I see it. Yeah, it's really good. Anyway, I

911
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 2: was going to okay, so none of you are familiar,

912
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Speaker 2: but I was gonna say, oh yeah, I pretty each

913
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Speaker 2: of us.

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Speaker 13: The only thing I can think of, the only thing

915
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 13: I can comment on that whole thing is I am

916
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Speaker 13: the oldest of three. And the way that the youngest

917
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 13: described you described your older sister where she's like she's

918
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 13: perfect and she did well in school, and of course

919
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 13: the typical oldest person. I was the exact opposite of that. Really,

920
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 13: my brother is was a straight A student. He graduated

921
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Speaker 13: with two degrees, top of his class from Carnegie. Mellon

922
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 13: went to Stanford for his PhD full ride, did everything perfect.

923
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Speaker 2: My sister, he's a master youngest.

924
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 13: He's the middle. My sister's the youngest, has a master's degree.

925
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Speaker 13: And I was the guy who was like, I'm gonna

926
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Speaker 13: go to Miami for school, I'm gonna do film.

927
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Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm gonna.

928
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Speaker 13: Give up my great job in New York City at

929
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Speaker 13: twenty six because like I want to make movies and

930
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 13: just gave it all away and moved out. I was

931
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 13: the one who every choice I made was told by

932
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Speaker 13: every teacher, every mentor every parent like, you're an idiot.

933
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Speaker 2: You're the youngest, You're my youngest child starting as a pet.

934
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Speaker 4: It's like third rock from the sun, you know, like

935
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Speaker 4: it was like a reversal thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. You are the quintessential youngest child.

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00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 4: And also look at you now, you've done so many

938
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Speaker 4: cool things.

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Speaker 13: Everyone to me, well, and what's funny is I think

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Speaker 13: if I like deep dive in myself is like the

941
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Speaker 13: boxes that I wanted to always check, like meet George

942
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 13: Lucas it's Skywalker Ranch and everybody's like ha ha ha

943
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 13: and you did it, or go on tour with Motley

944
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Speaker 13: Crue ha ha ha. Like I've checked so many of

945
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 13: those boxes, and I think, honestly, a lot of it

946
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 13: was I don't want to say spite, but like being

947
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Speaker 13: told that I couldn't do it, or being told like

948
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 13: you're a C student at best, like what are you

949
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 13: ever going to accomplish? I think it was really motivating

950
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 13: through my life to be told that I can't constantly

951
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 13: every time I wanted to do something that really drove

952
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Speaker 13: me to like, you know, pave my own path where

953
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Speaker 13: I feel like my brother and sister kind of were like, well,

954
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Speaker 13: to be successful, you check all these boxes where I

955
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 13: was just like, I'm going to do my thing.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm, fascinating.

957
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 4: I love it, but yeah, worked out.

958
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Speaker 2: I think it's worked out for you, Jason.

959
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 4: You're doing And also I think a fact on the

960
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 4: fact checker is that you are clearly the most interesting

961
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 4: man in the world.

962
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 2: You need to write a memoir. Yes, whatever You're willing

963
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 2: to disclose.

964
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 13: I'll talk about all of it, but I don't know

965
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 13: how interesting it'll be.

966
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Speaker 2: But you know, I want to hear more about that

967
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 2: Motley Crue situation.

968
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 4: It's that long now.

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00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: On the after dark, on the after it, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: It would be way more exciting. It wasn't Molly Crue,

971
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 6: I have to be on.

972
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 13: It was Nicky six of Motley Crue, his his second

973
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 13: band that I went on tour with. But it was

974
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 13: I'll tell you what, It's probably much different being on

975
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 13: tour with Nicky six at sixty years old than it

976
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Speaker 13: was at twenty five years old.

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Speaker 4: Sure, I'm sure you still got stories though, Yeah, you

978
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 4: still got stories.

979
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Speaker 13: There are stories, but I didn't live the stories. I

980
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 13: just heard about the stories. The stories that on this

981
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 13: tour was like, Okay, get on the bus, get to

982
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 13: sleep early because we're all tired and old. Oh I

983
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 13: mean not really, but it was like, you know, at

984
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 13: a certain point, like you've just partied enough that you

985
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 13: don't need to party anymore.

986
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Speaker 6: As I think more.

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00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: Briy Taylor, I'm just kidding.

988
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Speaker 5: I'm keeping my mouth.

989
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 2: We'll talk another thirty years.

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Speaker 4: And on that note, off.

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Speaker 5: It is the tattoo on.

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Speaker 2: My back, lower back, right, just right. We'll look at that.

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00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 2: Look at that, you guys. Okay, I think you guys

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Speaker 2: is really taking off by the way, in the like

995
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Speaker 2: just like a forever hiatus, you know. But I think

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Speaker 2: people are really I I've seen a couple of comments

997
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Speaker 2: and I people seem excited about your.

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00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're way. You're waiting for you to showup at

999
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 4: Payleyfest Man, so you gotta we gotta get on.

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Speaker 2: It for your consideration.

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Speaker 4: But until then, j C. Thanks as always, not only

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Speaker 4: for the fact check today, but also sharing a bit

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Speaker 4: of yourself and all of you sharing a bit of yourself.

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Speaker 4: It's always appreciated, and we appreciate you our listeners who

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Speaker 4: listen to us week after week, even when we're little

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Speaker 4: bit unhinged, like we heard right now. But that's all

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Speaker 4: part of the fun. We will be back next week

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Speaker 4: with another recap. But until then, you guys, what do

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