1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk. 2 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: Hi. Everyone. Welcome to Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, 3 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: we'll be talking about Billy Joel's brain disorder and why 4 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: he had to cancel all of his concerts, super glue 5 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: burns caused by a Timu product, a bizarre tech stream 6 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: between family members about burying dead children, a crypto investor 7 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 2: who tortured a man for weeks, and some details of 8 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: a really disturbing case of a woman who's vagina fell out. 9 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: All that and more on today's episode, Let's start with 10 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 2: Billy Joel. I like love Billy Joel. 11 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen him? I feel like that would 12 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: be such a good concert. 13 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: No, I actually would you know that? I like don't 14 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: like music really. 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: We know it's been really established. 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: I but I can listen to Billy Joel like all 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 2: the time because it's very like Calmon. 18 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: Because you're a boomer and it suthes you. 19 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: Yes, But but like that that might be if somebody 20 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: was like, oh, we can go see Billy Joel like that, 21 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,279 Speaker 2: I would consider because I also like a lot of 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: his songs. I so you know what I mean. There's 23 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: other people there's other people I could see live too, 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: like but older, like Motown or something like that. Nothing like. 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: That's all I found about Elton John And the tickets 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: in Philly were like four hundred dollars worse he ever. 27 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, I'm sorry, it's just like and 28 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: you're like, Elton, this. 29 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: Was nineteen seventy five. 30 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: That would be the best show you've ever seen in 31 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: your life. 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: But it's just not the same thing. Yeah, And I 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: just whatever. Anyway, So he apparently he canceled his concerts, 34 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: and I mean, so you know something's wrong because that's 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: probably a shit ton of money for all the people involved. 36 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I forgot that he fell. Remember it came 37 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: out that he fell earlier this year at one of 38 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: his concerts, and then everybody was really worried. So I 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: guess it was connected to this brain disorder he's saying 40 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: he had. 41 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: So can you explain what it is? I'm not really 42 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: familiar with it, honestly, but it's called normal pressure hydrocephalus. 43 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: So hydrocephalous is when hydro means water, cephalis means brain, 44 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: So it just means that there's extra fluid around the brain. 45 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: So we normally have cerebral spinal fluid in our brain 46 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: and around our spinal cord, and it just means that 47 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: there is more production of it and it so they 48 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: say that it's normal pressure because when they take it out, 49 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: it doesn't seem to have an increased pressure even though 50 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: there's a lot more fluid in there. So it's it's 51 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: a rare diagnosis, which is why I'm not really familiar 52 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: with it. And it's also difficult to diagnose. So let 53 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: me tell you some of the problems that people have. 54 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 2: Hearing vision issues, which is a definite problem if you're 55 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: playing piano and you're doing a concert balance, so that 56 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: would explain why he fell. Sometimes you could have certain 57 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: things that could be mistaken for Parkinson's or Alzheimer's, memory problems, 58 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: cognitive imparent and trouble walking things like that. So sometimes 59 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: when people present with those symptoms, they show up and 60 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: they think that maybe they're having that, just because this 61 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: one is more of a rare thing. But what I 62 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: am familiar with is when some people have cases of hydrocephalus, 63 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: they put in what's called a peritoneal shunt, so they 64 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: put it's crazy. We used to get them in surgical 65 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: pathology all the time when they were taking them out 66 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: or replacing them. But they put this really thin tube 67 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: that accesses the fluid in the brain and it goes 68 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: all the way through your body into your abdominal cavity 69 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: and just lets all that extra fluid drain right into 70 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: your abdominal cavity where it gets absorbed. Yeah, so he did. 71 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: They cancel all his upcoming shows for the summer. It's 72 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: unclear if he's going to perform ever again, so your 73 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: chance to see him might not be looking that good. 74 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: But it seems like this has a pretty good chance 75 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: to improve symptoms. If you do certain procedures, you're certain treatment. 76 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: Yah, But I don't know if he's So if you 77 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: have it, you can get this surgery done. But sometimes 78 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: if you were misdiagnosed for a while and you you've 79 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: had it, like, you can't reverse some of the problems 80 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: that it's making. So he might not really be a 81 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: candidate for it. He might have already had the surgery, Like, 82 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: we don't know. One interesting thing is is that they 83 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: say a person that has this walks like you would 84 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 2: walk on a boat. It's interesting, right, they say, with 85 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: your body bent forward, your legs held wide apart and 86 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: feet moving as if they were glued to the deck. 87 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: Is that walk on boats like I don't. I'm having 88 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: a hard time picturing this. 89 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: Not like on a cruise ship. We shouldn't see people 90 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: like that. But if you're on a boat, that's like, 91 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: I think we're gonna see him all they that you 92 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: could feel moving and stuff like that. Then you it's 93 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: like you're trying to brace yourself from falling, so you 94 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: just stand in a certain kind of position, like a 95 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: little fishing boat or something. 96 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see a lot of things we're 97 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: not prepared to see on the cruise shifts. 98 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: Just prepared. Don't worry, guys, we'll document all of it. 99 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: Oh we will. 100 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: For sure. We're gonna end up like down in the 101 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: Morgan interviewing people there or something. 102 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: Well, I saw where the medical center was on the 103 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: med we gotta go. 104 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: I'll just like paunch you in the face or something, 105 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: so we have an excuse that you need medical treatment. 106 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: You know, mo, Mom's gonna fall in the first five 107 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,119 Speaker 1: hours we're on the boat with this dumb flip flop 108 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: she wears. 109 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: So she just I don't even want to talk about 110 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: my mother and her shoes, not even all the time 111 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: that her feet her and she wears like the shittiest 112 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: things ever all the time, like heels twist ankle. Like 113 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: it's just if you if you heard a person say 114 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: that their feet hurt and then they showed up at 115 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: your house wearing like high heel mules, would you be like, 116 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: because that's literally what happens. I have no sympathy, Like 117 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: I'm just like, yeah, that's why your feet hurt because 118 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: you're wearing high heel mules. Like that's like if problems solved, 119 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: I just diagnosed you and gave you a solution in 120 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: two seconds. 121 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: We should take bets on who's going to the medical 122 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: center first out of like all seventy. That will be the. 123 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: Fun part we're gonna have. We're gonna have to induce 124 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 2: a fake injury if if not so all right, So, 125 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: speaking of momm we could also talk about TIMU because 126 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: I think that most people that are my age probably 127 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 2: have parents that are in their sixties or seventies and 128 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: have moved on from Home Shopping Network to TIMU. 129 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: Or a brother that has moved on to TMU. Because 130 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: Louis was having like a serious problem with it. For 131 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: a second, what was he ordering? 132 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: Are you serious? You don't know this? 133 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: He was like ordering all these sunglasses and like like 134 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: rubbers and shorts and like all stuff. 135 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: I have Devin intervention. No, Well, this is how we 136 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: knew my mom had a problem because the last thing 137 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: that she ordered or recent is she ordered like. 138 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: Those Skieople ski poles to. 139 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: Go walking in in the on the walking trail behind 140 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: her house. 141 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: We're I'm not getting an angry text after this cell 142 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: well like and. 143 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: Then she's like, oh, yeah, I returned them. They didn't 144 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: work out, And I was like, but you thought they would. 145 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: That's what's alarming. She's is that she thought you thought 146 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: that was there was a moment in your life where 147 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: you thought that that was a good idea. So now 148 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: now you're in a certain category. So this is so 149 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: this is a conversation I've had with my mom because 150 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: she's constantly coming over and giving the kids like I 151 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: got you this slip gloss, I got you this, I 152 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: got you that, And I'm like, Mom, don't buy my 153 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: kids that make up bullshit from TMU and give it 154 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: to them because I don't want any kind of chemicals 155 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: or anything there from Timu, because I don't believe they're tested, 156 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: even though the company says there and stuff. I just 157 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: I wouldn't trust putting anything like that, honestly. Like the clothes, 158 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: we've we've had articles about the clothes having chemicals on 159 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: them that are giving people problems too, but at least 160 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: you could wash them and stuff. But like cosmetic stuff, 161 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: no way they have. You know, the kids went on 162 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: not that one, one of the other ones, Sheen or 163 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: one of those places, and they're they're showing me like, look, 164 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: you could get this, you know that that cream that 165 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: that all the girls like that souljient de Gennaro stuff. 166 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about. It smells like suntanlus 167 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: or whatever. They're like, you can get this on Sheen. 168 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, that's fake, and they're like it's 169 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 2: but but like listen, she don't give a shit. They 170 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: they make the same label and everything, they don't they 171 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 2: There's like all these brands. All the girls like the 172 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: clothes and this and that, and it's there's this this 173 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: brand called White Fox or something like that, and they 174 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: they do the same exact shirt and it says w 175 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: hte Fox with the same font and the same color everything. 176 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: There's like an eye missing and that's the kids out 177 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: is unvol it's outrageous and like the kids don't even 178 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: notice it at first, and I'm like, now all this 179 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: shit is fake. You don't want this so anyway, So 180 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: this kid gets the mom gets the kid fake nails 181 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: and glue from Timu for Christmas, and the kids putting 182 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: on the nails like this is like a typical thing 183 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: you would see happen. And the glue got on her 184 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 2: hands somehow that like spilled out onto her hands and 185 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: it got bad from there. 186 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, this poor little twelve year old girl all thinking 187 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: about is Lily. And of course, because the girls do 188 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: their nails all the time, she's just sitting there doing 189 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: her nails, the bottle just tips over and spills on 190 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: her skin. She starts having this immediate burning sensation. So 191 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: at first her mom thinks it's just like not that 192 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: big of a deal. She had some little blisters, sends 193 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: her on her way, and then it ended up being 194 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: so much worse. So she ended up having these horrific, 195 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: horrific burns on her hands, and they were saying that 196 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: she'll always have these scars. She might never regain feeling 197 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: in her hands, and they had to do a skin graft. 198 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: They had to take a skin from her leg and 199 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: graft it to her hands. So I will say that 200 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: this might not be a TEMU specific situation because any 201 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: super glue could could hurt you, right, I when the kids, 202 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: when the kids want to have those fake nails, like, 203 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 2: I would never let them put the glue on by 204 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 2: themselves because that would that would I just don't think 205 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: that they should be touching glue. And the mom did 206 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: complain to TIMU, and the TMU said to them, like, 207 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: your kids shouldn't be touching this, And I kind of honestly, 208 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: like I agree with that kids shouldn't be touching now glue. 209 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: It's for going on your fingernails, which is so close 210 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: to your skin. The glue is going to make some 211 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: type of contact with your skin. Yeah, But but like 212 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: the thing is is that so this cyano acrilely is 213 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: the chemical that's in this nail glue, right, and it 214 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: causes an exothermic reaction with whenever it's bonding it, it 215 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: gets hot and sometimes you could you could actually feel 216 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 2: that happening when it goes on. Right now, there's lots 217 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: of documented cases of this happening with like non TMU glue, 218 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: because especially like if a kid is playing with that glue, 219 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: like let's say, for example, the girls are gluing on 220 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: the nails and it drops onto their jeans or their 221 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: pants that they're wearing, or sweatpants or anything, and then 222 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: it goes through their skin. Like when that glue hits 223 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: fabricly cotton and stuff, it gets even hotter and the 224 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: potential for burns is even more likely. You can get 225 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: glue in your eye. We've had cases in the gross 226 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: room of people getting super glue in their eye, both 227 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: usually accidentally. Remember the one case was the the daycare 228 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: worker put the drops that thought they were putting eye 229 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: drops in the baby's eye and put the nail glue 230 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 2: in the baby's eye. So there, it's obviously like accidental 231 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: cases or whatever. But like, I don't know, I just 232 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: think that there's there's like really bad things that could 233 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: happen with that particular chemical. So I don't I don't 234 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 2: think it's a problem if you want to glue nails 235 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: on the kids, but I think we could an adult 236 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: should do it, just because you know, it's just like 237 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 2: a little bit of a stronger chemical. But yeah, this 238 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: kid had to get a skin graph, which is no joke. 239 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: And now she I mean, your hands are a very 240 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: sensitive part of your body and it's it's sad for her. 241 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: And other cases that I've come across, I'm gonna post 242 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: some of them in the gross Room this week of 243 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: kids that have severe burns from having access to nail glue. 244 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: They typically result in full thickness burns and they have 245 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: to get a skin graph. It's terrible. 246 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by the gross Room. So, 247 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: like I told you guys. 248 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: On yesterday's episode, this week's celebrity death Dissection or non 249 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: death Dissection is on me about my skin cancer journey. 250 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: And also we talk about some other cases where these 251 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 2: two cases, I don't know if you saw that what 252 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: I posted this weekendry in the Grosser Room, but they're 253 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: the most botched cases of death investigation I may have seen. 254 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: I don't even know like it, but they're kind of 255 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 2: funny in a way or just weird. I don't know, 256 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: but you got to check those two cases out because 257 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 2: they're unbelievable. I can't even tell you about them because 258 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: you wouldn't believe me. We also have a case of 259 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: a guy who was horseback riding and one of his 260 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: testicles fell out of his scrotum. So that's an interesting 261 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: kit too, you know, just popped right out. Oh my god. 262 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: All right, check that out. 263 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, definitely check that out. Head over to the. 264 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 2: Grosserroom dot com. 265 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: Now, so a Walmart Santa Claus is in court after 266 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: being charged with the murder of his two children, and 267 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: evidence showed that he so excitingly texted his family about 268 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: burying the kids. 269 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: All right, before we even talk about this story, could 270 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 2: we just talk about Santa Claus, Like, what about it? 271 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: I don't. The older I get, the more I'm like, 272 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: I'm I'm not into the kids in the Santa Claus situation. 273 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: Well get over it, because when you're a grandmother, it's 274 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: your time to help me out all those nights that. 275 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: No, I don't mean no, I don't mean that. I 276 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: don't mean Santa like Christmas presents and stuff. No, I'm 277 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: not talking about that. Santa Claus is awesome, and you 278 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: mean like small Santa's I mean like kids sitting on 279 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: Santa Claus, fake Santa Claus, fake any Semita Claus is fake. 280 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: I guess kids sitting on Santa's lap and people that 281 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: are Santa's and I know that we know one. 282 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: Well. I was gonna say, typically I agree with you 283 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: because I think everybody is a predator. But you've always 284 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: thought that since you were a child, like everybody, let 285 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: me watch to catch a predator around like six years old. 286 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you first, it's gonna 287 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: be in my mind. So we're like. 288 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: Ten, you weren't six, okay, but that's not. 289 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: Really much better. 290 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: So but we know a Santa. 291 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: It's my husband uncle, and he is genuinely the nicest 292 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: person of all times. So when I think of somebody 293 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: like him, I'm like, of course there should be Santa's 294 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: because he's like, genuinely such a nice jolly man. Yes, 295 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: there's all like problematic. 296 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: Every every single time I've been going recently, like I'm 297 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: staring at these dudes and I'm like, what is their story? 298 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: Like why do they want to do this for a living? 299 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: Why do they enjoy children sitting on their lap? Like 300 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: I don't know, I just I don't. I don't like it. 301 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: And the past couple of years, like I've I've just 302 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: kind of been like, you know what, like we're not 303 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: we don't have to do that if you don't want to. 304 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of parents like force their 305 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: kids to do it for themselves because kids typically like 306 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: don't really necessarily like it. They like to like go 307 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: to the mall and look at Santa from Afar, but 308 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: they don't actually want to like interact with them. 309 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: Well, hopefully, since I got the connect, I don't got. 310 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: To go to the mall. Yeah, just be like can 311 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: you just like come over and whatever. But so like 312 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: I'm already like sauce of this guy because because he's 313 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: a Santa Claus at Walmart all right. 314 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: Well, he killed both of his kids when they were 315 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: both fourteen years old, so it was a little confusing. 316 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: So when his son was fourteen in twenty sixteen, he 317 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: ended up killing him. They just found the kid's bones, 318 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: cause of death is undetermined. And then in twenty eighteen, 319 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: he starved his fourteen year old daughter to death. And 320 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: they're going through all the evidence in this trial and 321 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: they found so not only is this Sanna involved in this, 322 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: but his girlfriend, his girlfriend's mother, and that woman's boyfriend. 323 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: So we were just talking last week. How it's obviously 324 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: disturbing when one person is committing crimes like this, but 325 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: then when you get like a group of people involves 326 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: what is happening. Yeah, and this guy's like going and 327 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: like letting little kids sit on his lap and smiling 328 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: when he's at home. It's starving his child child to death. 329 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: And so he had a fourteen year old he killed 330 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: and went missing, and like nobody like so it seems 331 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: like nobody knew the boy went missing where they were 332 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: able to cover up enough for it in sixteen, but 333 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: then when the girl went missing in twenty eighteen, that's 334 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: when somebody reported them and they went and checked the 335 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: property and then they ended up. 336 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: Finding the bodies. But so they're going through the evidence. 337 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: I just can't wrap my mind around children that are 338 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: missing and people don't know that they're missing. I just can't. 339 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: Like It's that makes it even more sad because you're 340 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: like there's no adult. Well, I guess there was some 341 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: adults around that knew it was happening, but you're like, 342 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: there's no one around this child that loves his child 343 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: enough to like care that that they're not that they're missing. 344 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 2: It's just so sad well. 345 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: It is said, because their biological mother was reportedly a 346 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: homeless person. And then you have this guy who's clearly 347 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: an abuser, and then he's somehow connected to these three 348 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 1: other people that are equally as evil as him. So 349 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: they're going through all this evidence in the trial. And 350 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: he texted his wife's mother saying, almost done burying Mary, 351 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: and then she replied cool, how deep? And she wrote 352 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: cool with an explanation point like. 353 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 2: There's nothing, yeah, you're like about this? That's so that 354 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: is like so bizarre those text messages. It's also weird 355 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 2: that people commit crimes are like writing text messages back 356 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: and forth to each other, like did they not listen 357 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: to our show? I don't know. 358 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: Well, I was saying this a lot with the Lori 359 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: Valo case, because there was so much via text that 360 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: they were able to like pinpoint basically when the kids 361 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: were killed because of things they were saying in their 362 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: locations and photos they were taking. And I don't know 363 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: if people I feel like maybe like in her case, 364 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: she's such a narcissist that she really thinks she won't 365 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: be caught and therefore it won't end up being a problem. 366 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: And I wonder if that goes through a lot of 367 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: people's minds that they genuinely believe they won't be caught 368 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: and it's not going to come up and be an issue, 369 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: or if they're just not thinking about it. 370 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's possible. 371 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's very bizarre thing to do. 372 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: But obviously these people are horrible people and they all 373 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: suck and they all got charged. 374 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: So at least there's gonna be some just this in 375 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 2: this case. All right, let's talk. This next case is 376 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: so disturbing as well. 377 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: So earlier this month, this tourist from Italy went over 378 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: this guy's house in New York City over a bitcoin exchange. 379 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: But now the homeowner's been arrested after he allegedly kidnapped 380 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: and tortured the tourists for weeks. I just like, I 381 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: still don't understand the bitcoin situation, like I'm not. I 382 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: can't possibly explain it because I don't understand it, and 383 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: I don't need people yelling at us that we don't. 384 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna try because I don't even understand. 385 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: I don't even understand what it is. But whatever happened, 386 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: like bitcoin or not, this guy kind of kidnapped this 387 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: guy and tied him up and tortured him for several weeks, 388 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 2: and he was able to finally escape and flag down 389 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 2: a nearby traffic person who was able to call nine 390 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 2: one one, and the investigators were just shocked when they 391 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: heard what was going on with him. 392 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he told police that he escaped after agreeing 393 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: to give his bitcoin password to the guy that abducted him, 394 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: and when the guy went to go get his laptop, 395 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: that's when the victim was able to leave the home 396 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: and track down the traffic cup that was able to 397 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: call the police. So then he told investigators that he 398 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: was shocked with an electrical wire, his leg was cut 399 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: with a saw, and he was forced to smoke crack cocaine. 400 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: And then they also recovered some really disturbing evidence at 401 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: the scene, which was chicken wire, ballistic helmets, body armor, 402 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: night vision goggles, T shirts, pictures of the victim with 403 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: the crack cocaine pipe in his mouth, and polaroids with 404 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: a firearm pointed at the victim's head. 405 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: Okay, they went out of their way to have T 406 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 2: shirts printed with his face on it. Yeah, like that, 407 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: like so weird. 408 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: But who printed the t shirts, Like did they make 409 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: them on their cricket or that's what I'm saying. 410 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's so weird. So listen. This story 411 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 2: gets even weirder because so at some part of the 412 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: story it said that there were two butlers at the 413 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: residence when this happened. So I was like, butlers, what? 414 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: So I look up the address, which was thirty eight 415 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: Prince Street in Soho. 416 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: Right, that's a really nice neighborhood, so I imagine the 417 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: house is the house nice, So it's not for sale 418 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: right now. But on Zillo, this estimate is twenty three 419 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: million dollars for this house. Eight bedrooms, ten baths, ten 420 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: thousand square feet, Like that is not what I would 421 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: be thinking in a situation like this. It and a 422 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: side note too, let me just tell you what. 423 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: The estimated mortgage payment is for that house. 424 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: Well, they said that guy was paying thirty to forty 425 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a month in rent. 426 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, because this one's saying estimated mortgage payment is one 427 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty three eight hundred and eighty three dollars 428 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: a month. That's insane, which is which is insane, But 429 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: thirty thousand dollars a month is also insane. Well, of course, 430 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 2: I mean in New York that's probably considered a steal 431 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 2: for a property like that. But this thirty seven year 432 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: old crypto investor and his twenty four year old assistant 433 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 2: were both arrested for this case. I am curious now 434 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 2: that you're talking about the butler or like, where were they? 435 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: Did they really not notice? It's like a ditty situation. 436 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is really bizarre and like so I guess 437 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: the whole motive was they were trying to steal bitcoin 438 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: from the victim, but he was there for weeks. 439 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. 440 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: This is really disturbing to think about somebody doing this, 441 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: and obviously this person had money in some capacity if 442 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: they're paying rent on this place. And people in the 443 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: neighborhood were shocked, of course because it's a pretty nice neighborhood, 444 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: but at the same time, it's naiven New York, Like 445 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: crazy shit happens anywhere you live. I just don't really 446 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: understand what was happening. Like they were trying to steal 447 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,239 Speaker 1: money from him, Is that what was happening. Yeah, they 448 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: were trying to steal bitcoin from him, so he so 449 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: the only reason they were torturing him is because they 450 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: wanted his password and then he finally gave it up. Well, 451 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: I would say that's probably not the only reason. It 452 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: has to be more involved than that, because why wouldn't 453 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: he just give up the password after like a couple 454 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: hours if that was the key, and like get a 455 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: week's go outside and like change it back. I know, yeah, 456 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, because like it's he was I 457 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: don't know, just in why crack, Like, I don't know. 458 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: The whole thing is. 459 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: It's a weird story sometimes, especially the T shirts. Well 460 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: you just hear like it's like Diddy and Jeffrey Epstein. 461 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: You just hear of these mega rich people doing this 462 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: really weird shit, and you're like, are you that bored? 463 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: You can't do anything else with your time other than 464 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: like torture and kidnap people. 465 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: It's so bizarre. Yeah, it really is. 466 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: All right. So this woman wrote an article for The 467 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: Times explaining that after giving birth, her midwife was tying 468 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: her back up when suddenly the worst thing she could 469 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: imagine happened to her. 470 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: Her vagina fell out. All right, So, so I guess 471 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 2: she's she had her second kid, and she was getting 472 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: she tore a little bit after she gave birth, and 473 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 2: they were they were sewing her back up down there, 474 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: and she said, whenever she gives birth, so this is 475 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: the second time she's giving birth. She started vomiting by afterwards, 476 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 2: which I don't really know what that's about, but like 477 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 2: I was telling you after you especially if you give well, 478 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 2: she said she had an epidural, So I don't really 479 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 2: know why she why that happens. And if anyone I know, 480 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 2: my friend Jamie listens sometimes and she delivers babies a lot, 481 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: so if that's a thing, I don't know. But the doctor, 482 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: so the doctor's like in between her legs, is sewing 483 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 2: her crotch up, and she says, I have to throw up, 484 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: and she gets the pan and she starts throwing up, 485 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: and you know, when you throw up, it's like pretty 486 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: violent on your body, like you know, you're kind of 487 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: convulsing and you can't control it sometimes, And all of 488 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: a sudden, the doctor looked up at her and was like, 489 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: your vagina fell out, and she she didn't really understand 490 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 2: what that meant. And there was this whole weird period 491 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 2: where she said the doctor had to push it back in, 492 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: and then she ran out of the room and a 493 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 2: surgeon came in and looked and was just like, yeah, 494 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: your vaginal wall caved in and it might not ever 495 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 2: happen again. Because she was just like, well, what do 496 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: I do in this situation? And he was just kind 497 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: of like, don't overexert yourself and like it might not 498 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: ever happen again. And then six weeks later she was 499 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 2: saying it was like the day before she was going 500 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: back for her check up after she had the baby. 501 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: She said she was just walking and put her leg 502 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 2: up onto a curb and then all of a sudden 503 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 2: that that shift just made it happen again. And she 504 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 2: said that she felt this like cold like clammy thing 505 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: pressing against her underwear in between her legs and like 506 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 2: a gelatinous mass she called it, which sounds I mean, 507 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: it's pretty accurate because I've seen miss Mask said the 508 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: chronic slop, And she just said she had a horrible 509 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: tugging sensation in her abdomen. And since she was going 510 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 2: to the gynecologist the next day, she she showed the 511 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: gynocologists for the for the checkup, you know, and the 512 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: doctor was like, oh, you like this is a typical 513 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 2: story of like again, this is like the theme of 514 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: this show that women getting blown off. Right. The doctor 515 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: was like, oh, you must have overexerted yourself, and she's like, well, 516 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 2: I just kind of put my leg up on a 517 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: curb to walk. I wouldn't consider that to be over 518 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 2: exerting myself. Weless. She has two little kids at this point, now, 519 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: you know. So they said they refer her to a 520 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 2: gynecologist and they said, have you ever done keegle floor exercises? 521 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: So she started doing that and like, I don't know, like, 522 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 2: if you're having a problem like that, I don't think 523 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 2: at this point that is going to help. Then she 524 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,719 Speaker 2: said she even got that LV train or thing. So 525 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: remember we talked about that a while ago on Mother 526 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: Knows Death about the vaginal video game. That's like a 527 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 2: little egg shaped dildo that you put in your vadge 528 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 2: and like play video games with it, and it's it's 529 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: letting you know that you're definitely doing a good job 530 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 2: with your keegel exercises. But she was saying she had 531 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: like all these problems, like it wouldn't recognize the device 532 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: and then she would be all the way through a 533 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 2: game and then it would say it was like she 534 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: wasn't doing good and stuff like that. So anyway, she 535 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: she's trying to get it addressed now and the doctors 536 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 2: are blowing her off essentially. So now it's been six 537 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 2: months and she wants to have sex with her husband, 538 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: which I think is crazy that this is a concern 539 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: for her that she's had to wait even six months 540 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: to have sex with her husband, right, And she said, 541 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: at first, they're having sex, and then all of a sudden, 542 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: she said that they felt like this, this like wet 543 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: gush of like what she said. She said, it was 544 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 2: similar to when she had a kid and like her 545 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 2: water broke, right, So they turned on the light and 546 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,479 Speaker 2: thought that that he, you know, both of them were 547 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: going to be covered in blood, and it was like, 548 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 2: thankfully it wasn't blood, but he was covered in pea 549 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 2: and so was she. There was like pee all over 550 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 2: the place, right, and she's like, oh cool, what's that? 551 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: And he saw something like he was like disturbed. Her 552 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 2: husband was disturbed looking and he was like looking at 553 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 2: her vagina, and she said that it looked like a 554 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 2: penis was like sticking out of her vagina. And she 555 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: figured out that it was probably like her bladder or 556 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: something like that, like all of her publc organs were 557 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: like coming out of her vaginal opening. So I guess 558 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 2: this is one of the things that we could talk 559 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 2: about with like because this is happening in the UK, 560 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: and I guess they have public doctors. And then she 561 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: finally decided she was going to visit a private doctor, 562 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: and so she made up this appointment and everything, and 563 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 2: then they said to her, okay, well at least they 564 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: addressed it, and they said, okay, you can get this 565 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 2: this thing called a pesory, which they stick up inside there. 566 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 2: It's like a plug almost. They stick up inside the 567 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: vagina and kind of push it back up and it 568 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: keeps it in place. Okay, or you could get surgery. 569 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: And she was just trying to get some answers because 570 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: some people say pestori is bad, some people say surgery 571 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: is bad. And she was just trying to figure out 572 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: like what to do in case she wanted to have 573 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: more kids or whatever, because a lot of the people 574 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: were telling her like, oh, you shouldn't have more kids. 575 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: And the reason is is because when you have the 576 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: older you get and the more children you have, it 577 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: just weakens the muscles down there. For certain people, doesn't 578 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: happen to everyone, but I think and any person that's 579 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 2: my age that's had a couple kids vaginally can be like, yeah, 580 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: you know, I was just talking to one of my 581 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: friends about that this weekend, Like what the I recently 582 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: had went to the trampoline park with my kids and 583 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: like I jump on the trampoline and it's like, oh, 584 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: I peed myself. I can't do that anymore, Like it 585 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: was that, you know what I mean, Like stuff you 586 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: just don't realize that you don't have control over anymore. 587 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 2: But when you look at a skeleton, for example, you 588 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 2: see that giant hole in between where a baby's head 589 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: would fit through in a female skeleton, right, So there's 590 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 2: there has to be something that holds all those organs 591 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: in because of gravity, like they just typically want to 592 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: fall down. So you have these muscles that go across it. 593 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: They're almost kind of like a basket in or weave 594 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: in across the bottom, but they're holding your organs in. 595 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 2: So they have like a very very serious responsibility and 596 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 2: if they're not strong, they could become weak. And when 597 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: they become weak, those organs start falling out of the 598 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: whole of your skeleton and that's basically, you know, your 599 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: uterus comes out through your vagina, but other things could 600 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: come along for the ride. I like to say, like 601 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: the bladder that's attached to the front of the uterus 602 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: and the rectum that's attached to the back of the uterus, 603 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 2: so they can all start falling out. And it's really 604 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: it's it's a really disturbing thing to see if you're 605 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: a woman, but it's also just uncomfortable, a lot of 606 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 2: pressure pain. Just think about this, like, you're a younger woman, 607 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: just had a kid, you want to have sex with 608 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: your husband, Like, this is what you have to think 609 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 2: about now. He's traumatized because he saw some weird thing 610 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: coming out of your badge. Like, it's just it's just terrible. 611 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: So she went to see this this specialist that was 612 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 2: supposed to talk to her about surgery, and he was like, oh, 613 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: good news, you're a candidate for surgery. And then he said, yeah, 614 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: I think you should get a labioplasty. You know, sometimes 615 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: when you have vaginal childbirth, it stretches out your labia 616 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 2: and it gets a little long. I'm not saying that 617 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: yours are that bad, but they could be fixed. And 618 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 2: she's just like, what the fuck, I just want you 619 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: to fix my uterus. I didn't ask you about my labia, 620 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 2: and that's kind of where it stands. And she's just like, 621 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 2: you know what, like I'm done here, I'm not dealing 622 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: with this anymore. And I mean she's eventually probably gonna 623 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: get surgery for this because she can't live like this. 624 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: That's insane. 625 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: Well, it's ridiculous to be blown off all this time, 626 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: you're like really being proactive about it, and then for 627 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: finally the person that takes you seriously is like, well, 628 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: while we're down there, do you want some plastic surgery? 629 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: Like f off, dude, Yeah, but not not even like 630 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't like, oh let's do let's do your hysterectomy 631 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: and then do the labioplasty. It was like, eh, you 632 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: don't need a hysterectomy, but you should fix these labia. 633 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: Like it it was like an either or situation and 634 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: that's it. That's just so insulting that. 635 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, and I don't I don't know how 636 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: like things are done in the UK because in US 637 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: and the pathology lab, like we get uterine prolapse all 638 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: the time as a specimen, so it's done here, like 639 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: people don't have a problem with it. Well, one thing 640 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: I took from the article that was really interesting is 641 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: she was saying it all could have been prevented if 642 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 2: I had a C section, but apparently you can't get 643 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 2: elective c sections with this healthcare system. Oh that's interesting. See, like, 644 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: I don't if you seriously have a problem with with prolapse, 645 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 2: then I don't see a C section as being elective. 646 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think, like, but I've been suggested to 647 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: the midwife because of her first trauma with her first childbirth, 648 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: and they were like, well, why would you want to 649 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: do that, Like they advise against it. Listen, I think 650 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: I think that they overdo it here. So I don't 651 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: necessarily have a problem with it, because there's way too 652 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: many people getting c sections that shouldn't be and the 653 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: risks associated with that are so much greater than vaginal childbirth, 654 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: So I could see why. I don't know if they 655 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: need to be that strict about it, because I do 656 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: think she has a medical problem that would indicate that 657 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: she should be a candidate for it. But yeah, I 658 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: mean that's definitely a concern for sure. But I mean, 659 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: people get it just because they just don't want. You know, 660 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: there's all different reasons why people get it, and it's 661 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: a it's a major surgery. It's a very major surgery 662 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: that people don't really think about. Yeah, So where she 663 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: stands right now is she said she has good days 664 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: and she has bad days, and that she's hopeful that 665 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: outcomes will have improved by the time she might need surgery. 666 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 2: So I feel like she should get the pessary at 667 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 2: least because I'm pretty. 668 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, Well, it's hard one person telling you 669 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: to get it and then another doctor's telling you not 670 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: to do it. So like she has one person telling 671 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: her what day, one person telling her another, Like it 672 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: just seems like a huge mess. Yeah, it's also typically 673 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: women getting blown off for major issues, like we can't 674 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: talk about it enough. 675 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 2: And if you say this out loud, you're like, this 676 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 2: woman never knows when her vadge and her uterus is 677 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: gonna start coming out of her vagina, Like why is 678 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 2: that not a huge concern for people when you're just 679 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 2: at a party and it happens or something like that, Like, 680 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 2: cause it's not. It's it's not only kind of gross 681 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: and disturbing, but it's it's physically uncomfortable. Why is that 682 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 2: not like like an emergency situation for these doctors when 683 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: they hear that this is happening, especially when you're you're 684 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 2: not an old person, You're still trying to have sex 685 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 2: and stuff. It's just it's just weird to me that 686 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, whatever, Like I don't know, it's just 687 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 2: so weird. No, it is. 688 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: Well, thank you guys so much. Please head over to 689 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: Apple or Spotify and leave us a review, and don't 690 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: forget to subscribe to our YouTube channel. 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