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Speaker 2: dot com. So Declan Doyle is the youngest coordinator in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. He was hired by the Baltimore Ravens. He

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Speaker 2: spent a year as the offensive coordinator for the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Under listen, you know Ben Johnson who called the plays

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Speaker 2: and ran the show. But Decland Doyle was brought on

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Speaker 2: because they thought he was a very up and coming

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Speaker 2: and promising offensive mind and somebody they wanted in the

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Speaker 2: the Ravens. Bit of a surprise. They went with a

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Speaker 2: guy who hadn't had experience at this level calling plays

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Speaker 2: before calling plays period. And he was brought on. And

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Speaker 2: he had an introductory press conference yesterday in Baltimore in

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Speaker 2: which he talked about the expectation he has for Lamar

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Speaker 2: Jackson and the rest of his players. With voluntary workouts

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Speaker 2: be here and certainly invall period.

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Speaker 4: And so but it's Also, you know, if you want

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Speaker 4: to say that you're going to win a championship, you

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Speaker 4: want to say that you have championship standards and those

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Speaker 4: are your goals and your expectations. Certainly, that's going to

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Speaker 4: take work, that's going to take collaboration, that's going to

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Speaker 4: take the beginning of building the relationship with their coaches,

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Speaker 4: other players, you know, starting off this this next regime

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Speaker 4: on the right foot. And so that would be those

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Speaker 4: guys getting in here, us being able to work with

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Speaker 4: this thing going in the direction that we want to

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Speaker 4: and you know, making improvements so that we set ourselves

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Speaker 4: up where when we come back in for training camp,

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Speaker 4: we hit the ground run and we already have kind

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Speaker 4: of shared knowledge, shared language, and we're able to go.

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Speaker 2: Right to work voluntary workouts. But he expects him and

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Speaker 2: the other guys to be there. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 2: he's familiar with the way that Lamar Jackson operates. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not sure if anybody filled him in

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Speaker 2: else because he doesn't have an agent, and you know,

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Speaker 2: he's been walking the green Wolf for about forty eight

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Speaker 2: hours straight, like listen. He just he operates in a

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Speaker 2: different way. But for Decklan Doyle to come in and

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Speaker 2: I get why he would want those guys to be

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Speaker 2: I just I can't imagine that's going to entice Lamar

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden come in because the brand

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Speaker 2: new offensive coordinator says, I have expectations for you to

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Speaker 2: show up, even though they're voluntary.

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Speaker 3: So when my older brother used to tell me things

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Speaker 3: know what I would do. I'd laugh at him, like

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Speaker 3: what you're talking to bruh?

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Speaker 2: Do it when I feel like doing it? Why is that?

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Speaker 2: Why is that relevant?

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Speaker 3: Well, my older brother is three years older than me,

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Speaker 3: in age. I ain't got to do anything you tell

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Speaker 3: is twenty nine years old? You know how old one?

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson is twenty nine years old. He can't be

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Speaker 2: He's twenty nine? Same age? Man?

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Speaker 3: Is he twenty nine? Lamar jack twenty nine? Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 3: is twenty That's crazy. I didn't think he was that old.

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Speaker 2: They're the same age, like you have.

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Speaker 3: You have this youth movement taking place in the National

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Speaker 3: Like I always used to say, like, man, they bring

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Speaker 3: like what's this all about? But when you think about

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Speaker 3: it now that they're bringing in I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Mikey.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I should leave old people alone.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, people when when like Mike, you look

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Speaker 2: He just got in the sky. Hey Mike, you look

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Speaker 2: like you could be my uncle.

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Speaker 3: Mike, I'm just saying, do you treat your cousin the

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Speaker 3: same way you treat your uncle, You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I don't treat my uncles the same way I treat

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Speaker 3: my cousins. So it's like when you come in and

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Speaker 3: you're setting a tone. He has to come in to

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Speaker 3: try to set a tone. As a coach, you want

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Speaker 3: to come in, you want to try to set a tone.

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Speaker 3: I just wonder at what cost, at what expense is

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Speaker 3: it going to take for him to be able to

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Speaker 3: set a tone at twenty nine years old and you're

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Speaker 3: wet behind the ears, You're a new You're a new, new,

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Speaker 3: new energy, a new personality in the mix with somebody

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Speaker 3: is so beloved by the community and the city and

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Speaker 3: the franchise. What are you going to do if Lamar

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Speaker 3: be here when I get here.

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Speaker 2: That's what That's what I've always done. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 2: And that's the part I wonder about because his relationship

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Speaker 2: with decland Doyle is the most important. They hired Jesse Minner,

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Speaker 2: where Declan Doyle was previously, like Ben Johnson was really

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Speaker 2: And Caleb Williams has talked about it, but he was

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Speaker 2: you talked yesterday on the show about how quarterbacks move

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Speaker 2: differently in the building and Ben Johnson was his guy.

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Speaker 2: That's sort of how they're connected, and that's what the

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Speaker 2: Bears wanted, and they should have won it because it's

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Speaker 2: going to be hopefully lasting them for the next decade

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Speaker 2: plus those two together. But in this case, I wonder

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Speaker 2: decland Doyle's brought in to be the one closest to

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson from an offensive mind standpoint. He's not the

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Speaker 2: head coach. That relation is paramount with the Ravens organization.

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Speaker 2: And so when the guy comes in and the first

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Speaker 2: They need to be here. And you're a veteran player

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Speaker 2: who probably doesn't show up to the voluntary workouts. And

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Speaker 2: if you're Lamar Jackson, dude, you can't even get the

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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean you don't come in and try to

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Speaker 3: set a tone. Well and listen, maybe he's already had

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Speaker 3: this conversation behind closed doors. I would say it's wise

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Speaker 3: to have had this conversation behind closed doors. Don't come

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Speaker 3: out with an iron fist. We had this conversation about

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Speaker 3: Schottenheimer with the whole reorganizing and doing this with the

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Speaker 2: We saw that turn out, But.

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Speaker 3: Don't come in ruling with an iron fist publicly. If

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Speaker 3: you're going to be an iron fists type of guy,

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Speaker 3: like this is what it's going to be, this is

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Speaker 3: how it's gonna be, this is how we're gonna do it,

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Speaker 3: this is why we're going to do it. You had

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Speaker 3: better build that bond and and set that tone and

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Speaker 3: that standard behind closed doors.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't work anymore these days. That iron fist sort

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Speaker 3: Isn't really really recognized. It's not comprehendible by today's today's athlete,

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Speaker 3: today's kid. They touched. They're touched, man, they're touched. That's cringe.

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Speaker 3: You come at somebody with the iron fist, that's cringe.

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Speaker 3: Like I used to think when you came at me

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Speaker 3: with the iron fists. It was literally an iron fist,

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Speaker 3: like I'm going to get spanked. You're if you're told

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Speaker 3: this and you don't do this, the consequence is an

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Speaker 3: ass whipping. Oh yeah, coming after it that. It's not

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Speaker 3: like that anymore, Like there is no real consequences to oh,

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Speaker 3: clean your room, like you didn't clean your room?

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, are you going to clean it out? No,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take.

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Speaker 3: Your your your devices from you, Like, okay, you figure

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Speaker 3: out something else to do. I'm going to take that.

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Speaker 3: What you figured out what else to do? Okay, Like

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Speaker 3: I'll just sit here and be bored. But so what

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Speaker 3: I still didn't clean my room. Where you go from there?

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Speaker 3: If you if you physically like spank them, you still

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Speaker 3: didn't really get anything.

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Speaker 2: You didn't get anything out of it other than feeling

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Speaker 2: bad about spanking. My son's four years old. I threatened

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Speaker 2: him one time and he slashed my tires. Like it's

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Speaker 2: a new day man. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So so so the whole iron physic everybody is going

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Speaker 3: to be here.

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Speaker 2: I expect everybody to be here.

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Speaker 3: Now, what you have to do is you have to

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Speaker 3: be creative and how it is that you go about

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Speaker 3: working with the professionals that are under your watch and

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Speaker 3: under your care. You got to build the bond this

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Speaker 3: this era of athlete. If you build a bond like hey, like,

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Speaker 3: let's go get some some food from your from your

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Speaker 3: your food truck.

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Speaker 2: Hey, lamar you smoking?

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Speaker 3: Like all right, Like I might not smoke the green lettuce,

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Speaker 3: but I smoked cigars. Like, let's go, Chief, you got

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Speaker 3: to go meet these people on their on their ground.

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Speaker 3: So if you were advising Declan Doyle, you would tell

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Speaker 3: them to go smoke weed with why not Jackson?

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Speaker 2: Why not? All right? Only hey, listen, you had to

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Speaker 2: steep a shoddy telling.

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Speaker 3: Them only only if, only, if that's what you do,

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Speaker 3: only if that's what you do.

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Speaker 2: If you're deckling and you smoke weed, go smoke weed

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Speaker 2: with with with you.

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Speaker 3: You got a couple of players that are your main guys,

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Speaker 3: go have a drink with them, Go have a beer

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Speaker 3: with them, Go go kick it with them, Like, Oh,

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Speaker 3: you're going on vacation over here to the Bahamas. I'm coming,

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Speaker 3: I'm bringing my wife. We're gonna hang like I'm coming through.

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Speaker 2: We're good.

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Speaker 3: Then you build a relationship and I'm over embellishing. Obviously

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Speaker 2: Talk to his players. I tell y'all that, I sit

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Speaker 3: in mouth. That's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna punch

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Speaker 3: you right in your mouth. I'm gonna pop you, like,

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Speaker 3: I gotta get up just like you get up. I

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Speaker 3: you do. Don't talk to me that way. And that's

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Speaker 3: old schools. That's me as an old school player. These

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Speaker 3: new school players, they just shut down. They shut down like, oh,

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Speaker 2: We don't da da da this or not. They shut down.

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Speaker 3: And you know what happens because all these catch is

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Speaker 3: like a power outage, Like wait, the lights aren't on

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Speaker 2: You talking to cats.

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Speaker 3: The way you're talking to them, you not show The

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Speaker 3: worst thing you could do is show them you don't care.

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Speaker 3: If you show this era athletes, you don't care, they're

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Speaker 3: weirdest thing, Like don't you still want to win? I

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Speaker 3: can't function, can't function right. Mental health used to be

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Speaker 3: it's empowerment. My mental health matters, my emotional stability matters,

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Speaker 3: my happiness matters. And if you infringe on that, then

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Speaker 3: It's inappropriate, it's not accept able, nor will it be tolerated.

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Speaker 3: And our society backs that up. Now they back it up, Jonas.

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Speaker 3: So if you come in talking crazy the cats, they

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Speaker 3: while I'll say the tone of it, I'm not going

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Speaker 3: But the reason why I believe they're bringing in younger

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Speaker 2: By the way, you imagine telling our parents, hey, we

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Speaker 2: my dad telling me like, hey, come help me clean

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Speaker 3: I'm about to get I'm gonna get spiked for said

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Speaker 2: Well, what are you stranging before day? Damn? We don't

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Speaker 2: make get excuses. Hey, damn, we look at California. Why

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Speaker 3: My dad has two prosthetic lives like they're wouldn't you

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Speaker 3: knock on them?

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Speaker 2: Bad boys? Right? Give him? I need a mental health day.

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Speaker 3: I'm emotionally, I'm drained this and that. That man knock

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Speaker 3: You think I get a mental health day. You think

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Speaker 3: have any excuses. Let's have a not have excuses day today. Hey, listen,

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Speaker 3: I turned out well. Like, I don't take days off.

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Speaker 3: I'm dependable, I'm on time. I like the way he

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Speaker 3: raised me. Military. I handle things military very regimented. Was

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Speaker 3: there some sacrifice there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Like? Are we super tight?

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Speaker 3: We're tight as father son, But are we like tight

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Speaker 3: tight like kind of not really, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So it's kind of like for me, you got to

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Speaker 3: in terms of the understanding.

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Speaker 2: Of who it is that you're guiding.

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Speaker 3: If you're not authentically who you are, and you don't

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Speaker 3: each and this is the crazy thing with each one

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Speaker 3: I would go as far as to say, even if

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Speaker 3: I'm the offensive coordinator, I'm building that relationship with defensive

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Speaker 3: because that's how today's athlete operates.

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Speaker 2: I do wonder also, if you're Declan Doyle and your

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Speaker 2: had to basically, you know, that's not he had to

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Speaker 2: of dollars. He's a superstar. And now you get a

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Speaker 2: guy whose most recent example is is how Ben Johnson

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Speaker 2: coached up Caleb Williams. And we've talked about it before.

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Speaker 2: The Belichick disciples, for the most part, never really worked

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Speaker 2: because they tried to be Belichick. As you mentioned, you

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Speaker 2: got to be yourself. And I just wonder, I just

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Speaker 2: wonder if he's taking the approach that, well, Ben did

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Speaker 2: this with Caleb, I'm gonna do with Lamar, and it's

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Speaker 2: too completely different.

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Speaker 3: Caleb's a baby, it's a baby, a babe in the league,

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Speaker 3: and Lamar is a battle tested, hardened experience VET and

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Speaker 3: but he's he's a new school VET. Though again, the

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Speaker 3: best thing you could do is become best friends with

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Speaker 3: you know who has the perfect blend of best friend.

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Speaker 3: But it better be respect like we could lock it up,

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Speaker 3: like like we could go in the back room and

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Speaker 3: lock it up. I remember one time, just Super Quick

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Speaker 3: Store I slap box went when I was a head coach.

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Speaker 3: One of my one of my one of my players.

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Speaker 3: He only understood fighting. Fighting was the only way to

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Speaker 3: communicate with him. So well I realized. I was like,

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Speaker 3: let's go over here real quick, man, come on, come on.

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Speaker 3: We slapboxed, old school, old style slap box, like, let's go,

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Speaker 3: let's go, right, So now you're not looking at me

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Speaker 3: like I got this old decrepit dude, that's coaching you.

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Speaker 3: It's like he touched my head like three times in

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Speaker 3: the first one minute of us slap boxing, Like I

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Speaker 2: You know what that means, right, if we was.

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Speaker 3: Really slap boxing, I slapped the hell out of you,

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Speaker 3: and I'm moving on him, and my handspeed was too

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Speaker 3: good for him. And after that, our bond, our ability

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Speaker 3: to communicate was different. He's like, oh wait, you're like me, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's what I've been trying to tell you. We're not different,

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Speaker 3: We're the same and we should want the same things.

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Speaker 3: You connect on that level, right, Mike Rabel, that's the

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Speaker 3: perfect blend, perfect blend of 's Like, I guarantee you

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Speaker 3: Mike Vrabel would be.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh, you feel like you could whoop me? But

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Speaker 2: Rabel broke up a fighting training camp and got bloodied.

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Speaker 3: Let's go in the weight room, Let's hit this, Let's

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Speaker 3: let's get I'm not telling you to go lift the weights.

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Speaker 2: I'm going in with you.

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Speaker 3: Let's get this work out in Dan Campbell's and other

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Speaker 3: campbell Yeah, former players, but just have a real real

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Speaker 1: So uh.

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Speaker 2: The Cubs closer Daniel Palencia. This is his song that

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Speaker 2: he plays when he comes out to close games. And

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Speaker 2: my son when he pretends to be Daniel Palencia. He

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Speaker 2: he closes out our our make believe games. When do

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Speaker 2: you hype him? Do you hype him when you do it? Oh? Yeah, yeah?

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Speaker 2: He got to hey bruh. And then if he hangs

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Speaker 2: one over the plate, it's going in the pool. You

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Speaker 3: You take it out of it high, get him going,

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Speaker 3: but then you take it cold blooded. You gotta take

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Speaker 3: the strike, bro. Man, He's for He's got to grow sometime. Hey,

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Speaker 3: if you can envision it, you can you can achieve it,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it's like you gotta

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Speaker 3: you gotta hype them. You gotta hype when they when

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Speaker 3: they had those moments. I used to have those moments,

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Speaker 3: man front yard with my plastic helmet on. Your your outfit,

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Speaker 3: your your football outfit. I had uh gym plunket. I

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Speaker 3: had a plunket and I had a who was it

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Speaker 3: was it a Walter Payton.

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Speaker 2: All the old hutch, the old hutch as a Bradshaw

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Speaker 2: plunkt and Bradshaw. I had the whole, the whole out,

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Speaker 2: the whole uniform.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about football pants to the ankles, the plastic

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Speaker 3: plastic helmet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, helmet, Yeah was plasing.

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Speaker 3: I envisioned myself like playing like so I had a

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Speaker 3: Neil Anders hyped up and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so uh so there's that. But uh, by

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Speaker 2: the way, he's at the point now to where because

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Speaker 2: for some reason he's got a cannon that it used

434
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Speaker 2: to be funny when he would beat me with the

435
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: ball and he does it intentionally. Now it's not fun anymore.

436
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 2: Like now it hurts. It hurts. Yeah, just I don't

437
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: need this, but from that over to this and by

438
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Speaker 2: the way, a quick reminder here coming up in a

439
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 2: little over fifteen minutes from now, we're going to tell

440
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 2: you about the latest lie that is being put out

441
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: in the NFL. I find this hard to believe it

442
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: would actually happen, but somebody's working really hard to try

443
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: and make it happen. That'll be yours again a little

444
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 2: over fifteen minutes from now. You can watch along on

445
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Speaker 2: the YouTube channel for the show at two pros FSR.

446
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Speaker 2: We are simulcast right now and if you are listening,

447
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Speaker 2: iHeart app, so will always pop up at the top

455
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Speaker 2: of your screen. So, Kevin Durant, I just want to

456
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: say this, Okay, if this is true and he's behind this,

457
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 2: he's a weirdo. He's one of the biggest weirdos in sports,

458
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: and he's got problems. If this is true, There's been

459
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,479
Speaker 2: some speculation that he is the guy behind a burner

460
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 2: account that made some noise recently. What type of noise. Well,

461
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 2: the name of this burner account, and it was he

462
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: sent some dms to some people's. This is different, Like

463
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: it's not even just you know, accidentally being logged into

464
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Speaker 2: the other one that he did the time before and

465
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Speaker 2: sending some tweets out. These are dms in which he

466
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: just kind of laid into his teammates. The name on

467
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 2: the account is get off my Dickerson. Oh wow, Eric Dickerson. No,

468
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: I don't believe it's Eric Ron Dickerson. I'm not sure. Oh,

469
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: but says the fault he coach Temple Ron Dickerson. I

470
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Speaker 2: don't know. Let me look it up. I don't know.

471
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with.

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Speaker 3: How good of a coach could you be when your

473
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Speaker 3: last name is Dickerson. Well, Eric Dickerson is one of

474
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 3: the all time great players, Got that right? Yeah, so Dickers.

475
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 3: But this this from the get off my Dickerson d ms.

476
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 2: Get off my Dickerson. I got it.

477
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 3: I got at some point, at some point you got

478
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Speaker 3: to grow up.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: This is a new audience and this was a professional

481
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 2: So this from get off my Dickerson, I will not

482
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: laugh again. All right, here we go. Come on. Coach

483
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 2: called that play to pass to Alpi meaning alfa and

484
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: shangoon l o L. I'm gonna turn the ball over

485
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: with this sas team. I don't give an f Your

486
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: French player can't shoot or defend. That's a way bigger

487
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: issue than my turnovers. Remember, these guys are your future, right,

488
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Speaker 2: So the next one.

489
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Speaker 3: That's how you sound it when he was typing it

490
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 3: like if he was saying it by the word like

491
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 3: it was his voice, that's how you sounded.

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Speaker 2: I mean again, that's you know, maybe me trying to

493
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Speaker 2: lead the witness here. I want you to.

494
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 3: Sound exactly how you or you hear it voice wise

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Speaker 3: in your head when you read it.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, come on from get off my Dickerson.

497
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: I can't trust Jabari to make an effing shot or

498
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: get a stop. Guy writes back. Just don't give him

499
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Speaker 2: a tech. He writes back, he's low key R word

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00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 2: and the R starts with an R and ends with tarted,

501
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: which I'm not sure I could say on the air well, Hey,

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00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 2: hold on a second, I didn't say it, Chris. That

503
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: hand went right on over there. It was quick, safe

504
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: than sorry, all right? Next up some laughing crying emojis,

505
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: and then he goes on to say, does get off

506
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: my Dickerson? I really got a laugh to stop from crying.

507
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: I swear I miss Ben Simmons. Least that N word

508
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 2: would give me the ball. He then goes on to say,

509
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: when somebody, when somebody pointed out and put a screenshop

510
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: of life with Devin Booker and Frank Vogel. He wrote

511
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: all this because book return two dictators Stalin and Hitler,

512
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: Mussolini and Kim Jong Un. The sons are my team

513
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: when we lose, and books team when we win. That

514
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Speaker 2: from Get Off My Dickerson via DM on X now

515
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, who we don't know is get off my Dickerson.

516
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: Because this spread and everybody got ahold of this. Kevin

517
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: Durant was asked about the scandal, if you will, and

518
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: had this to say, I.

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Speaker 6: Know you got to ask these questions, but I'm not

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00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 6: here to get into Twitter nonsense.

521
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: I'm just here to focus on the season, keep it

522
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: pushing on. But I know, I get you got to

523
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: answer those questions.

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Speaker 6: My over it is we've been locked in the whole season, man,

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Speaker 6: Joy R. Braden had a great practice today with a

526
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Speaker 6: force of the road trip.

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Speaker 2: So based on that response, do you believe that Kevin

528
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: Durant is in fact? Well, somebody does not deny it. Well,

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Speaker 2: can I at least like present to you the question? Okay,

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00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: I just want to be a fair moderator. Based on

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00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: that response, LeVar Arrington, do you believe that Kevin Durant

532
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 2: is in fact? Get off my Dickerson. Yes, I'm gonna

533
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: be honest with you.

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Speaker 3: Man, play back one more time. Just play the beginning

535
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: of it. When you don't do something, you say, yeah, man,

536
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 3: that's crazy. It's not me Like I didn't do that,

537
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: Like you got the wrong person. What you're wasting your time?

538
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: Tell me? Do you hear him say no or answered definitively?

539
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: Let me hear the beginning.

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Speaker 6: I know you got to ask these questions, but I'm

541
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Speaker 6: not here getting a twitter nonsense and deserted focus on

542
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Speaker 6: the season.

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00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: Translation, I'm mister, get off these here's hard. Here's the

544
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: part I believe. If I've got to bet on one

545
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: side or the other and again, I'm a horrible gambler,

546
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: absolutely horrib just atrocious. I bet on a horse one

547
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: time that died at the starting. That's crazy, so like

548
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: it's not even like they had to bring out an

549
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Speaker 2: elephant gun and put him down right in front of

550
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: everybody and he hadn't even raced yet. But so I'm

551
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: not a great gambler, but if I had to bet

552
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: on this, I would lean towards and to say slight

553
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: lean towards. That's not Kevin Durant, because I can't imagine

554
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: that a guy with as much on his plate and

555
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: as much going for him would take the time to

556
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Speaker 2: create an account called get off my Dickerson and d

557
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Speaker 2: M people responses like this, and then I find my

558
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: off saying up, wait, he's already done it before I

559
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: was about to say yes. So now look at this

560
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: whole thing going. I don't know, man, Like, this is

561
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Speaker 2: a really you.

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Speaker 3: Gotta explain to me. Okay, he is a DC guy.

563
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: He's spent a lot of time in d C. I

564
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: knew him younger, younger KD. He used to come around

565
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 3: to the sideline shouts out of the KD. This is

566
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 3: weird old behavior, man, this is weird. It's just I

567
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: don't understand that the weirdo. I don't understand. We just

568
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 3: spent a whole segment talking about this new era, this

569
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: new age of athletes. And even though he's a little

570
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: bit older than some of these newer age athletes that

571
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 3: are out here, he's still part of the culture. He

572
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: still influences the culture with how he is. He's very

573
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: he's very in tune to what's current and what's trendy.

574
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: And I gotta say, if you know KD he's a

575
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: He's a jokester. He's not only a jokester, he's funny

576
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 3: as all get out. Bro dude is a funny dude.

577
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: I don't mind when he claps back at people on

578
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: social media. I think it's hilarious.

579
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: I just so for me when when I hear these things,

580
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 3: and it's like, if you've ever and and people from

581
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: d C, D M V will will will know exactly

582
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about. He's not only a jokester and

583
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: a prankster and he's funny, but he is a serious

584
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 3: trash talker.

585
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: His trash talking is great.

586
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 3: So I recall seeing him play at and Barry Farms,

587
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: like he shouts out the mouse. I don't even know

588
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: if Miles still around, hopefully still around, friend, Barry Farms leagues.

589
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: If you are Miles, you can find us on YouTube

590
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: right now.

591
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah two bross And if you if you listen to

592
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 3: the show and you you know, shouts out to all

593
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: my DMV all days, Kirk Boon, all of them.

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00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

595
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 3: So comp coded, I go to the games. I sit

596
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: in the courtside, watched the games at KD. Every time

597
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: KD being a game, k D could trash talk you

598
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 3: down to the ground. I mean, some dudes just got

599
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 3: the gift and it blew me away because before I

600
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: had met him, and before I got to know him

601
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 3: a little bit, I just thought he was this quiet

602
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: dude that just walks around, says two three words, doesn't

603
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 3: say nothing, unassuming, like you don't get nothing out of him.

604
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: So I'm sitting there on the sideline just flabbergasted. I'm

605
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there like what is going That's Kevin Durant

606
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: talk like he's talking bad to this defender, like bad

607
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: told him about how he grew up, how it had

608
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: something to do with basketball, his mama not loving him. No,

609
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 3: your ball handle has killed your your your defense shows

610
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: how you was raised.

611
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: I mean he was. It was so good. It was

612
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: so good.

613
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 3: So me knowing him from when I did know him,

614
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 3: and and the things that I've heard him say.

615
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: He even talk trash to be.

616
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: We used to have like a competition of trash talk

617
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: competition about cars. I've had my Like I'd have a

618
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: different car every time I'd come to the sideline and

619
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: he'd be like, hey, yeah, you see what I got.

620
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 3: You see what I got out of that. You see

621
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: what I got. I can't compete with his money. You

622
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 3: know what I mean, I ain't got what you got,

623
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: shouts out to Rob Bassem. Though I did have Eastern Motors, Yeah,

624
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: I had Eastern Motor Group.

625
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: What Robbie b He used to talk trash to me.

626
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 3: Come into the restaurant, we come, we chicken kill, chill

627
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 3: and kick it and he you know, and he taught

628
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 3: a little bit of trashy.

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Speaker 2: So when I hear.

630
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Speaker 3: These things, it's like, for one, do I think is

631
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 3: so it's probably him. But the thing about it is,

632
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 3: here's the biggest question.

633
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: Do you care? Do you care? Or is it or

634
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: is it entertainment? It's like it's weird. I think it's weird.

635
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: I think it's a weirdo if it's true.

636
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 3: But again, I'm a weird most of these dudes these days,

637
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: well you are a weirdo, damn.

638
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 2: But these new school cats are weirdos because you don't.

639
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: You have to understand where they're living at right now,

640
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 3: their mind state, they're mental, how society is versus society

641
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 3: is very different for you back then than it is

642
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: right now. Being current an influencer, superstar, megastar, it's just different.

643
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 2: They're all weirdos, Jonas. That's why. To me, it's just funny.

644
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 3: When I heard you read them, it's funny, like, oh,

645
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: you're gonna go in there deal and get at them.

646
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: It's funny to me unless you're threatening lives or bodily

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00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 3: harm or anything like that. If you're just trash talking,

648
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Speaker 3: who cares. I think it's funny. This generation they do

649
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: things in a weird different way. Their algorithm is way

650
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 3: different than ours. I get it, so I don't put

651
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Speaker 3: too much into it. I just think it's funny.

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Speaker 2: It's uh. Save his social media behavior is a wild

653
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Speaker 2: place to be.

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Speaker 3: I think I think there should be more trolling the

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Speaker 3: trollers that exist out here.

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Speaker 2: Oh what he doesn't. He's not hiding. I think it's great.

657
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Speaker 2: I have no issue with it being like, oh, you

658
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Speaker 2: got better things to do? Who cares? Doesn't take that

659
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Speaker 2: long to fire?

660
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Speaker 3: But maybe I don't. Maybe I don't have better things

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Speaker 3: to do. Maybe maybe that's that's my better It.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I made some lamb lamb lowing chops yesterday. Yeah,

687
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 3: crushed it, bro, I gotta say I did a pretty

688
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 3: pretty amazing job of of making them.

689
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 2: What was the inspiration for the lamb? Uh? That's what

690
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: came we ordered up.

691
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 3: We actually ordered some porter houses, but that's what ended

692
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 3: up showing up. I guess that's what was in stock

693
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 3: where we got it from. I mean, so we just

694
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Speaker 3: went ahead and went with it. I said, Hey, let

695
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Speaker 3: me I've never tried it before. Had a little different taste,

696
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 3: has a different taste than regular like steak, but has

697
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 3: the same type of look to it, just smaller.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't think I've ever cooked lamb. I

699
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: don't even ever think I've even thought about taking a

700
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 2: taking a peek at that or even giving it a

701
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: given it an opportunity.

702
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 3: Probably wouldn't happen if it didn't happen the way that

703
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 3: it did. I made some oxtails the other day too.

704
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh bro.

705
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Speaker 2: Because listen, Saint Patty's days coming up around the corner,

706
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: and we talked about this, a difference between cottage pie

707
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: and Shepherd's pie. You know, Shepherd's pie is I think

708
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 2: has lamb in it. Cottage pie has got the beef.

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00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 2: I'm more of a guy. I've heard two different versions

710
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: of that. So for those of them that want to

711
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Speaker 2: argue it, but h.

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Speaker 3: Shepherds are really good though, really good shepherd Pie really

713
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: get the job done, really good. Yeah, you can feel

714
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Speaker 3: really good about it. And it tastes better the older

715
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 3: it gets. So you could run it all the way

716
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 3: to the end, like right before it gets to that

717
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Speaker 3: point of where you got to throw it out, like

718
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 3: that last day before expiration, that.

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Speaker 2: It's still gonna taste.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna taste its best because it had that that

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Speaker 3: opportunity to like just marinate and marinate and marinate, and

722
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 3: you're reheating it and I don't know something about it. Man,

723
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 3: Certain foods is just something about it. They taste better

724
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 3: the next day. Yeah, you know, like gumbo tastes better.

725
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 3: He chicken parm up tastes fantastic.

726
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: Does it taste better than that? That's great. Chicken parm

727
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: beats up great. I wouldn't recommend. Maybe like Chinese food

728
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: doesn't it doesn't seem to uh, it's strange.

729
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 3: It doesn't taste Yeah, like fried rice, it doesn't taste

730
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Speaker 3: so well.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it does.

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Speaker 3: Actually, Actually, Benny Hanna's tastes good the next day, Betty,

733
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Speaker 3: Benny Hannes stay's good the next day. I got I

734
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Speaker 3: gotta say that. Okay, Anyway, enough about food.

735
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Speaker 2: So we opened up the show. We were talking about

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Speaker 2: the off season speculation that Max Crosby sit down with

737
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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams in which he gave him all sorts of

738
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Speaker 2: compliments and they were really really complimentary of each other.

739
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: If that was sort of a an opportunity for them

740
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Speaker 2: to try and speak into existence the potential of Max

741
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Speaker 2: Crosby joining the Bears, If this was sort of laying

742
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Speaker 2: the groundwork in the foundation for Max Crosby joining the

743
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Speaker 2: Chicago Bears, or at least create the conversation, and there's

744
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: been some there's been some reports out there. I think

745
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 2: it was Adam Schefter who reported that the Raiders would

746
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: seek two first round picks and a position player for

747
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 2: Max Crosby, similar to Michael Parsons. The problem is, you know,

748
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: Micah Parsons is a better pass rusher. Michael Parsons is

749
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Speaker 2: also younger. Max Crosby's twenty nine coming off the injury,

750
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Speaker 2: and I love Max Crosby. And the thing about Max

751
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: Crosby is the numbers may not be the equivalent to

752
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: a Micah Parson, Tomar Miles Garrett, but Max Crosby, the

753
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: effort he gives you, he's a game wrecker. And you

754
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: know it's like a Julius Peppers. Like Julius Peppers may

755
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 2: not have been, you know, the biggest sack artist in

756
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Speaker 2: the NFL, historical difference maker for the Beers. I mean

757
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: for he just for years, crazy for years, crazy for years.

758
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he made a big difference. And Max Crosby

759
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 3: is that type of talent where you'd have to assume

760
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 3: you could get a good four to fat years just

761
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 3: based off of his will to compete, his desire to

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Speaker 3: be the best that he can possibly be. You'll give

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Speaker 3: four fave good years out of Max Crosby.

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Speaker 2: You remember when Michaeh Parsons first got to Green Bay,

765
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: there were some complaints about, well, I mean, you know

766
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: you're paying all that money you give up by that

767
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: draft capital where the number in his back he doesn't

768
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: have this, that and the other just because the sac

769
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: number weren't up initially, he was still setting other players

770
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: up for success on the defense because of all the

771
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: all the blocks he got, all that the chips, all thatff.

772
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: It opened up so many other things for players. And

773
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: Max Crosby's like that type of guy.

774
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 3: I hadn't played either, So that's an extreme circumstance, right,

775
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: That's an extreme situation where a guy that you didn't

776
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: expect to be somewhere else ends up somewhere else. He

777
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: hadn't played, he had been it was like kind of

778
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 3: a standoff. So he hadn't been playing. He wasn't like really,

779
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 3: he did some participation, but not very it was very limited.

780
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 3: In in Dallas when all of those contractual conversation is.

781
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: How dare he lay on a training table? He's laying

782
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: on a training table.

783
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 3: I mean, what else in a play you're not paying

784
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 3: him to play. So I guess where else he was there? Yeah,

785
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: I mean he had some nachos. You gotta eat, you know, Yeah,

786
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 3: he was eating nachos, right, nachos.

787
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: That's a great move.

788
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, right, well, I mean maybe he was

789
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 3: sending a message, right like, this is nacho cheese.

790
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: Get it. I can't get it, got you, man, this

791
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: is not your cheese.

792
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 3: It ended up being pre babe, it ended up being

793
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 3: green bage cheese. Hey, by the way, I said, little

794
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: little unintended maybe I don't know, a little.

795
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: Little pro tip for restaurants and anybody out there that

796
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: makes nachos at home. You gotta layer it, okay, you gotta.

797
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 2: You gotta put one layer of the chips, then the

798
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: toppings on, then the next layer of the chips, and

799
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: then the toppings on. If you just put all the

800
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: toppings on top of all the chips, next thing, you know,

801
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: you got bear chips at the bottom. They end up

802
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: getting soggy.

803
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: You gotta have the bones, you gotta have the stroke,

804
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 3: got it.

805
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 2: It's just you know, it's one of those you know,

806
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 2: it's just one of those things you gotta do the

807
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: right way, you know.

808
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 3: I baked mine. You bake and then I put then

809
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: I put the cold stuff on there, like the lettuce

810
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 3: and the tomatoes and the sour cream and the guacamole.

811
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 3: But I bake it first. I baked them bad boys

812
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: move yeah, man, and then broil it broiled the top

813
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: of the cheese, so the cheese is like like real

814
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: nice and and like burnt. And then I put the

815
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 3: other stuff on it when I take it out.

816
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: Damn yeah, brou That's how it's done. Fire. Yeah. You know,

817
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: like you seem like you've got like a good plan

818
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: in place when you're making all these meals. You know

819
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 2: you should do what you should take over the job

820
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: of getting the Bears a new stadium in Chicago. That's

821
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: what you should do. That might be a little bit

822
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 2: more difficult, though. Here's the latest on the subject of

823
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: the place that maybe Max Crosby could end up going,

824
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 2: if you believe all the speculation that his career might

825
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: be over about the time. So the Bears released a

826
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,479
Speaker 2: statement earlier because there's been this speculation that they would

827
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 2: go to Indiana to try and get a stadium done,

828
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 2: that they would that Indiana wants to bring him in

829
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 2: and they want they'd like to bring in the Bears,

830
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 2: and they've had all these you know, they sat down

831
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: at all these meetings and discussions and they put plans

832
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: in place and all that. So this from the Bears.

833
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: A statement from the Chicago Bears earlier, the passage of

834
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: SB twenty seven, which is the Indiana Senate bill that

835
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 2: they put together, would mark the most meaningful step forward

836
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: in our state planning efforts to date. The Bear said

837
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: in a statement, we are committed to finishing the remaining

838
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 2: site specific necessary due diligence to support our vision to

839
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 2: build a world class stadium near the wolf Lake area

840
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: and Ham in Indiana. We appreciate the leadership shown by

841
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: the powers that be in Indiana. Their names are irrelevant

842
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: General Assembly establishing this critical framework and path forward to

843
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: deliver a premier venue for all Chicago land and a

844
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 2: destination for Bears fans and visitors from across the globe.

845
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: We value our partnership and look forward to continuing to

846
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: build our working relationship together. That from the Chicago Bears.

847
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: The Indiana Governor Mike Brown posted on afterwards and released

848
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: a statement, So here we go again with this crap

849
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: that has been going on over and over and over

850
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: and over again. They tried this garbage years ago where

851
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: they threw out Indiana as a potential landing spot. They

852
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 2: try like all of this, and I remember, you know,

853
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: the great Mike North, you know sports talk radio legend,

854
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: showed up in Gary, Indiana with a gas masks a

855
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: pit Fox Sports radio alum, Mike North showed up to Gary,

856
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: Indiana with a gas mask on because he had heard

857
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: that there was a real odd odor in the city

858
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: of Gary, Indiana. But now here we go with the

859
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 2: Max Crosby speculation to the Bears and the news, and

860
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 2: the Bears having all this momentum coming off a successful season,

861
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: we've got the Indiana possibility for a stadium to be

862
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: rolled out. And I don't know how it lands with

863
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: you because we're not in Chicago, But how would it

864
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: sit with you if this team ended up building a

865
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 2: stadium and playing their games in Indiana.

866
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: Okay, let's first of all, I think it It really

867
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 3: depends on the concentration of your fan base. Like Chicago

868
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 3: is a lot of suburbs. You had the downtown, you

869
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: had the you know, the city part of Chicago, but

870
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 3: it's a lot of suburbs.

871
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: It's urbs.

872
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 3: It's like a whole bunch of them, like super super

873
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: large amount of different areas that make up these different

874
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 3: suburbs of Chicago. I would say this is a study

875
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 3: that that the Chicago Bears need to get correct. Whether

876
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 3: I'm right or wrong doesn't matter. I think what's what

877
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 3: matters most is and trying to do this. So here

878
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 3: here are I guess the reported reasons as to why

879
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 3: they they would want to move and do a stadium

880
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 3: somewhere else. The Soldier Field is one of the smallest stadiums.

881
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 3: That's that's one. That's old, super old, smallest stadium. Two,

882
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 3: they want to dome it. They want to be able

883
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 3: to do year round mega events at at this event

884
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 3: you like, so like you were saying in comparison to

885
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: like what Jerry Jones created, the model of of Jerry's

886
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 3: world and the Star and all that stuff, what they're doing.

887
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 3: Then there's the idea of the tax. The tax is

888
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 3: connected to it, like what are you paying in taxes

889
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 3: in Chicago? What are you paying in taxes? And in Indiana?

890
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 3: So there's that idea of it. How is it being monetized?

891
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 3: It sounds as though they're trying to do a privately

892
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 3: monetized stadium. So if they're not doing it through tax dollars,

893
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 3: I would assume that they're looking at this from the

894
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 3: standpoint of if we're not using tax dollars to build

895
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 3: this venue, then we want to have the best tax

896
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: breaks that we could possibly get. That's what I would

897
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 3: assume is the reason why. I don't know the tax

898
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 3: situation in Indiana versus in Chicago, but I would assume

899
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 3: that taxes are probably a little bit more lighter and

900
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 3: easier in Indiana than they are in Chicago. I'm just

901
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 3: that could be an ignorant comment, so don't hold me

902
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 3: to that, but I'm just assuming how much of your

903
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 3: fan base is in Indiana. How I ask you guys,

904
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 3: how far of a drive is that from Chicago. You

905
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 3: guys said, like, what six hours or something like that.

906
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 3: If I'm a Chicago Beers fan and my home team

907
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 3: of the Chicago Beers are are playing six hours away,

908
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 3: I will never go to that game.

909
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 2: That's just me.

910
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: That's my take on it. I don't know, but if

911
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 3: it were that long of a drive, depending on how

912
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 3: long it is that we have to drive to get there,

913
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: I think you're you're cutting yourself off to a very

914
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 3: very Is it important, I should say, if you're a

915
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 3: Chicago person, is it important an important part of your

916
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 3: your your fan demo. I mean, I think those are

917
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 3: all questions that have to be answered, and it seems

918
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 3: as though they're comfortable with it. If these are the

919
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: conversations that have been ensuing, like the continued idea that

920
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 3: it could end up in Indiana says to me that

921
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 3: they see the value in taking a mega a mega

922
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: event center, not just where the Beers play, but a

923
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 3: mega event center. So that means they probably would would

924
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 3: have parking and they will control their parking and how

925
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 3: that works and other things that are you know, maybe

926
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 3: they're able to do a nice practice facility and maybe

927
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 3: they're able to It's it's really a real estate play,

928
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 3: is what it is.

929
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: Of course. And they've talked about, you know, they want

930
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: to leave the Lakefront and go to Arlington Heights because

931
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 2: that's where there was an old race track that was there,

932
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: a horse racing track, and they've got all the land

933
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 2: there and there's been this back and forth the problem

934
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: and you can speak to this because look, it's it's

935
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 2: not far from Chicago. You know, to get to wolf

936
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: Lake and Ham in Indiana and all that. It's like,

937
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 2: you know, maybe like a forty minute drive or something.

938
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 3: Well that's different. Now y'all told me like like five

939
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 3: six hours. No, I think I forget what we were

940
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: talking about.

941
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: It was, uh we it was when i Iowa Iowa

942
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 2: throughout the idea of also putting in a bid for

943
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 2: the Bears, and so we were saying, oh, yeah, why

944
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: not at this point, like why not Iowa? Yeah?

945
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 3: You know, in fact, it's a forty minute drive. You

946
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 3: could probably take public transit some way somewhere. Yeah, the

947
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 3: train to a certain place, ub or whatever.

948
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: All that's listen, All that's fine. And ultimately, if they

949
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: decide to move to Indiana and it's a better deal

950
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: for them, Like what do I care The Giants and

951
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: the Jets don't play in New York? They play in

952
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: New Jersey? What do I care? Like they want to

953
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: play there? Are we live in here? In Los Angeles?

954
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 2: Everyone raves about Sofi Stadium. It's a gazebo, Like if

955
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: we're being a walk all the way around. No, I can't, like,

956
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: on a certain level, cut you off and you gotta

957
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: go downstairs to get to where you needed to go.

958
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: It's like the whole place is a it's a gazebo.

959
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 2: So I look at I look at the situation with

960
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 2: the Bear Stadium, and I'm just reminded of this because,

961
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 2: for a little backstory for people that are unfamiliar with

962
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: the show, the year before Aaron Rodgers started playing with

963
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: the Jets, Brady Quinn and myself were really excited about it.

964
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 2: Rogers is back, the Jets got a quarterback. It's this, this,

965
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 2: and this and one LeVar Arrington said to us, telling you, guys,

966
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: you can't escape dysfunction. You can't escape it. And I

967
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: look at this situation with the Bears, and I'm reminded

968
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: as to what is happening with the Washington commanders, where

969
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: they had all this momentum and there was all this

970
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: stuff going on. Dan Snyder's out, he's gone. We're having

971
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: discussions about, you know, Jade and Daniels being the next

972
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: big thing, and Dan Quinn and their back, and they're

973
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 2: a game away from the super Bowl and they're all

974
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: this stuff, and then all of a sudden, this year happens.

975
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 2: They've gotten rid of coordinator after coordinator. There's questions about

976
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels' long term future and health. There there's questions

977
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: about dan Quinn, what happened with Cliff Kingsbury, and you're

978
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: just reminded, oh, there's still remnants of that. And there's

979
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: been some reports that have said part of the staff

980
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 2: overhaul there is because maybe some of the old people

981
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 2: up top who still want to have a say in

982
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: decisions on the field still exists in Washington even though

983
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: it's a new regime. And I look at the Bear situation.

984
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: I go, you finally want a playoff game for the

985
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: first time in over a decade. You've got your quarterback

986
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: of the future, you've got the head coach, you've got

987
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 2: all this positive momentum, and then somebody knocks on your

988
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 2: door and says, oh, by the way, here's more dysfunction

989
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: for you. You're going to go to Indiana because we

990
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 2: still can't figure out how to get an f and

991
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: stadium done like they just they can't get out of

992
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: their own way like they can.

993
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 3: It's just every time bad teams historically have an opportunity

994
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 3: or see a little glimmer of hope or see a light,

995
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 3: it's like trying to swim to the top.

996
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: You go, oh, my god, there's the surface of the water.

997
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: And then you go, wait a second, let me stay

998
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 2: down here a little bit longer and see what's around. Like,

999
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: let me go ahead and take a look at one

1000
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 2: of these UFOs. It's reportedly underwater. It just this is

1001
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: why bad teams, for the most part, stay bad for

1002
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: a long time, because they can't help themselves. This stadium

1003
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 2: should have they should have already figured this out. They

1004
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: should have been all this stuff done, and still we're

1005
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 2: having this conversation. And as you mentioned, Iowa threw their

1006
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: name in the hat. You got the Lakefront, You've got Arlington,

1007
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 2: You've got Indiana, You've got the Bears releasing statements. You know,

1008
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 2: Kevin Warren's gonna have a statement that comes out. It's

1009
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: just some of these teams cannot figure out how to

1010
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 2: have success. They don't know how to do it.

1011
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 3: You brought Washington into the conversation. They've been dealing with

1012
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 3: the same the same thing, and.

1013
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: They actually got it now.

1014
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 3: But so it makes me think about the idea that

1015
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 3: these are. I wonder how much relation relationships is driving

1016
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 3: why it's so difficult for Chicago to get this project done.

1017
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: Washington, DC was.

1018
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: Not going to support Dan Snyder and doing a new

1019
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 3: a new stadium. They just weren't. This wasn't going to happen.

1020
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: Relationship wise, it wasn't going to happen. So I want

1021
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 3: under Now they get new ownership, new new type of energy,

1022
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 3: new type of people, relationships driving it, and now all

1023
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 3: of a sudden they get approved to do a new

1024
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 3: stadium where the old site of RFK was. Uh So

1025
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 3: that's that's exciting and interesting news. I think it's great

1026
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 3: to bring Washington d C's football team back to Washington

1027
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 3: d C. I think there's something magical about them playing

1028
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 3: in DC, even though I never played one game in

1029
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 3: d C. Just the stories that I heard, maybe that

1030
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 3: that returns and restores a lot of what was lost

1031
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 3: when they moved out to Landover, Maryland. As it applies

1032
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 3: to Chicago, I just wonder, is it is there a

1033
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:51,720
Speaker 3: relationship friction between the people that are running Chicago in

1034
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 3: in Congress and and you know local government. Is there

1035
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 3: a riff if there is there a long standing beef

1036
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 3: between ownership and the relationships between the Chicago Bears and

1037
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 3: these people.

1038
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 2: By the way, you'd have to imagine they're probably not

1039
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 2: on great terms with how long this is dragged on for,

1040
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 2: Like how long that yougotiate If you have a good relationship,

1041
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: you can communicate through things, right, you can talk through things.

1042
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 3: You can figure out something that's going to work for everybody,

1043
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 3: all parties involved. When things don't get done and their

1044
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 3: drug out. For as long as this has been and

1045
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 3: there's so much indecision and indecisiveness on what it is

1046
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 3: that's taking place, you got to believe it's because people

1047
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 3: can't come together and talk through it and come up

1048
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 3: with a sensible solution to what it is that's going on.

1049
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a weird situation, but that is the latest

1050
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 2: as there's momentum building towards the Chicago Bears actually building

1051
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 2: a stadium in Indiana and putting an end to this

1052
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: year's long battle between them and the city of Chicago.

1053
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,279
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