1 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. 2 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: We are an Action Network podcast. I'm branding Kravitz, your host. 3 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Back at it with partials of the crew. The first 4 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: lady of the pod, Kendra Middleton, is with me. Stucky, 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: still reeling from the end of the first two rounds 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: of the NCAA tournament as a single tear drops from 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: his cheek. Brackets are busted, hearts are broken, Cinderella officially 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: booted from the dance. 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: How you doing, Kendra? 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 3: I'm doing okay. 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 2: My bracket sucks. 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 3: I've had the worst betting streak of my entire existence. 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: I don't care what I put in the app fade 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 3: me for the rest of eternity. In this tournament. I'm 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 3: hoping my futures can save me. But yeah, tough tournament 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 3: for me. I will say I did admit this on 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: social media. I am the and on the air on 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: my other shows. I'm the first person to admit when 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: I'm wrong, and this tournament might be it proof. 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: So I have an issue with your take on this 21 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: in two different directions because I think that your initial take, 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: which was Cinderella is dead. 23 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: The tournament is broken. 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 1: You had that was, you had that one in case, 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: you had you had it laminated and everything full year. 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: Then we had a decent opening round of the tournament, 27 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: and you broke the glass and said I was wrong. 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: I actually think your initial take was the right one. 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: Not that the tournament is broken. The tournament is fun, 30 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: but it's not what it was. Yeah, like we have 31 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: if we could get the voice of God, Evan Abramson 32 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: here he hit us up in the chat just now 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: and said that Cinderella is alive in the Texas Longhorns. 34 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: The day that Texas, which has a bigger nil budget 35 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: than anybody else in the country, becomes our Cinderella, IOWA 36 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: in the Big Ten, one of the best, if not 37 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: the best, basketball conference in the country, If that's what 38 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: we're determining that, I think your original take was right, 39 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: and I don't think you ever should have apologized for it. 40 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 3: I just think that, like the competition is better, Like 41 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 3: these Cinderellas are playing up to big teams better, but 42 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: we're obviously not getting those big upsets. So it's entertaining 43 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: good basketball. But I'm having I will say, maybe you 44 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: are correct, because I'm having way more fun watching the 45 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: women's tournament. Even though these like number one and number 46 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: two seeds are beating the shit out of everybody else. 47 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: You can't smasgine. 48 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: Evan, you cube, Evan, Please tell me you were joking 49 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: when you called Texas a Cinderella. 50 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 4: It just depends on. 51 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 5: What you're talking about, right, Like, we haven't. 52 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 4: Seen a a mid major team the last two years 53 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 4: is deep, but Texas was fifteen hundred to one, So like, 54 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 4: it depends on what you're looking at in terms of 55 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 4: mid major Like, yeah, obviously the uh you know, the 56 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 4: low what. 57 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: I mean, where the fuck is this school? 58 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 4: That? 59 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: To me, that's what that's a Cinderella. 60 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I see even high Like if High Point had 61 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: made it to the sweet sixteen, that's a perfect example. 62 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: I get that Texas was in the first four, but 63 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: Texas will never ever ever be a Cinderella story. 64 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 3: We are getting corn mgeddon do you guys have you 65 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 3: guys seen no Nebraska Iowa? 66 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, we understand it. 67 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: I definitely thought you said something else. Never mind, all right, moving. 68 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 5: On, thank you have to go. Sorry, my mom's here. 69 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 6: All right, Kendri, what's on your mind today? 70 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: Okay? 71 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: The question of the week. If you had to use 72 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: a vegetable to defend yourself in combat, what vegetable are 73 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: you using? 74 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: I I'm cheating because I looked ahead in the dock, 75 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: so I have put some thought into this. I'm using 76 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: a holopeno. What I'm using, first of all, very discreet. 77 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: You don't even know I have a weapon. I will 78 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: cut it in half. I will squeeze it into your eyeball, 79 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: and now you're blinded. 80 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: My sweet potato in a tube sock is gonna beat 81 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: the ship out of your julapeno bit. 82 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: I will duck. 83 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: I will duck your sweet potato, squeeze the halopano juice 84 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: right into your eye. 85 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 3: That is a terrible answer, Kravitz. 86 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: I was. I was once. 87 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 1: Once it popped into my head, I thought, well, this 88 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: this experiment is done for me, because clearly this is 89 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: the best answer we were trying would be the answer. 90 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: We were trying to predict what your answer was going 91 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 3: to be before you got on and Evan said that 92 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: he would shape a carrot into a shank. 93 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: Evan, do you still do you still stand by that? 94 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: Is it? Is it still carrot shank for you? 95 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 4: I mean it's like that or a yuka or a 96 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 4: sweet potato. I mean, if you had like handicapped this 97 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 4: this and bringing Kerner and like set odds, it's gotta 98 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 4: be one of those the show an onion? 99 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: Why would why would you choose a potato over an onion? 100 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: It's the same level of density. 101 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 4: The onion and halapeno take too long to come together. 102 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 4: Like by the time you've you've gotten me with either 103 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: of those, I have killed you with Mike Carrot, I can. 104 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: Make you with the onion and whap you over the 105 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: head with the oven. 106 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: Now, I would cut a pumpkin open and cover myself 107 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 3: and it's guts, so I would be slippery before you 108 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: could even get to me with that damn halapeno. Or 109 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: I would just throw tomatoes at you and boo you Kravitz. 110 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: That's not not the worst idea of the pumpkin one. 111 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: I kind of like that. Let's get to our main 112 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: dish today. 113 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: JSN got paid. The reigning Offensive Player of the Year 114 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: signed a four year, one hundred and sixty eight million 115 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: dollar contract with the Seahawks forty two per year. Guys 116 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: twenty four years old, He's a super professional just now 117 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: entering his prime. Best receiver in football last year and 118 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: he's got a ring. I have no issue with this whatsoever. 119 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: I'm sure friend of the show Nick Lee also very 120 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: happy with this as well. 121 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: Two thumbs up for Seattle. An obvious move. You are 122 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: shaking your head. 123 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 3: Shot out, Nicklee. I love him to death, love him 124 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: to death. I understand why they had to pay him, 125 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: but I just kind of hate it. Like Sam Darnold, 126 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: he needs him as a security blanket. But I would 127 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: much rather have a young quarterback that elevates, you know, 128 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 3: a cheaper receiver than pay JSN this amount of money. 129 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: I know that's kind of well yeah, because they're like, 130 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: they're going in the opposite direction. Usually you pay the 131 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: quarterback that the quarterback elevates average receivers, makes them good, 132 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: or makes a good receiver great. You're taking your great 133 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: receiver and hoping that he makes an average quarterback great. 134 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: But really it worked. 135 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: And that's what happens when you win a Super Bowl 136 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: is you end up paying the people that help. 137 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: Get you there. 138 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: The thing that made my first thing that came to 139 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: mind is, holy fucking shit, Pooka Nakua is about to 140 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: make so much money it makes me want. 141 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: To throw up. 142 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the difference is, are we sure Pooka Nakua 143 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: is that super professional? I think part of the reason 144 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: you pay jsentence because you don't even worry about him. 145 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: He's just, you know, he's a lunch paiale guy who 146 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: happened to be super athletic. 147 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: It doesn't really matter. We see these like diva receivers 148 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: still get paid in the NFL all the time, like 149 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: AJ Brown, Like he's the definition of a diva and 150 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: he's still making money and people are going to give 151 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 3: up a first and a second round pick to get 152 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: him if he's not gone by Jude first like it does. 153 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. If you're good enough, you're gonna get paid. 154 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: Look at freakin' Deshaun Watson. He's a piece of crap 155 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: and made a bag. 156 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Well, I blame the Browns. I blame the 157 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: Browns ownership. Jimmy has them for that one. I don't 158 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: know that anybody else has given him that, but at 159 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: least I hope that that's the case. Now that's not 160 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: the only wide receiver news we have in Seattle. I 161 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: am sure that you are absolutely gutted as the Seahawks 162 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: are matching a Jaguars qualifying offer for wide receiver Jake Bobo. 163 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 3: What I would you believe me if I told you 164 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: I almost cried about this because I did. 165 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 5: I was so pissed. 166 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: The marriage of North Andover Massachusetts and Jacksonville. 167 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 5: Florida was so close for me. 168 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: I needed a Bobo jersey like that that would go 169 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: so crazy in teal. I hated this. 170 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 5: I hated this so much. 171 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, JSN, good to go in the clear. 172 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: No dagger to the heart. Literally, just take me out back. 173 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: Do we have an early candidate for Bete jail? Is 174 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: Jake Bobo gonna enter early off season? 175 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: Bete? 176 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: He's dead to me. He's literally dead to me. It's 177 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: not his fault at all. It's literally it has nothing 178 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: to do with him. It has it's nothing and no, 179 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: but I can't, and good faith, I cannot carrot dagger 180 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: to the heart. Yes, David Payne, harrot Shank. 181 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: We also have, uh, speaking of heart, so we have 182 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: America's sweetheart, Travis Kelsey locked in for twenty twenty six. 183 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: He signed a three year, fifty four million dollar deal, 184 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: putting him right behind George Kittle and Trey McBride in 185 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: terms of average annual value. Those two, by the way, 186 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: at this stage in their career, significantly better than what 187 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey is. This feels very much like a thank 188 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: you contract for Kelsey. 189 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: Disgusting, disingenuous. This isn't a thank you contract. This is 190 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 3: a Taylor Swift is making us so much money. Will 191 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 3: pay you whatever you want because we're selling. 192 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: Your Do you honest Do you honestly think she has 193 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: something to do with the dollar amount here? 194 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 5: Babe? I'm a girl. 195 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna hold your nostril hairs when I tell you this, Okay. 196 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: I have gone to so many women's sporting events in 197 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: the grocery store, it does not matter. Every casual sports 198 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: fan I have seen is in a Travis Kelcey jersey. 199 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: And these girls, and I'm not shaving women who want 200 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 3: to get into football or anything like that, but they 201 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 3: think that they know absolutely everything because they've watched one 202 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 3: season of football, because they're a swifty And nothing drives 203 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: me more insane than these girls who just hopped on 204 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 3: this bandwagon. I'm happy to have you, happy to have you. 205 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 3: I'm not gay keeping shit, but please read a book, 206 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 3: get off of swifty Twitter. If you actually want to 207 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: care about football. You got to care about football, not 208 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: just Travis Kelsey, babe. Like it has opened such a 209 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 3: swifty portal of the female sports fan that it makes 210 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 3: me so irrationally angry. 211 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, when you have fans that are only tuned 212 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: in for those particular occasions where the Chiefs and Kelsey 213 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: are on the screen, I don't know if that helps 214 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: the sport. There's obviously a much bigger conversation to have 215 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: here about you know, if you want to do the 216 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: whole dad's watching football with their daughter's thing and all 217 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: of that. But you're talking about folks at the bar 218 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: pretending like they've been locked in on the NFL for 219 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: a decade. That's my only issue in regards to what 220 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: you're saying is when any and that's when anybody does 221 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: this in any walk of life. And this seems to 222 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: happen in sports more than anything else where people show 223 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: up to the party and act like they've been at 224 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: the party for twenty years. You gotta kind of know 225 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: I would never walk in I know nothing about cars. 226 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: I would never decide one day that I'm into cars 227 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: and then walk into a mechanic shop being like, all right, 228 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: we are the wug nuts, you know, Like I don't know, 229 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: so I think it's there's there's some pretender that's going on, 230 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: but it is. 231 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: It is cranking out the cash for the NFL. 232 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, they had to pay him whatever he wanted 233 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: because she's making them so much money. 234 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: And in look and I think eye test wise, and 235 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: compared to his previous statistics, there was clearly a drop 236 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: off with him. I was looking at some of the 237 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: advanced numbers. He wasn't actually as bad as our eyes 238 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: would tell us. He was still fourth in yards at 239 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: the position, third in yards after catch, he was third 240 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: in total EPA per play. 241 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 2: He wasn't a bad tight end. He's just not what 242 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 2: he was. So it's slow as shit. 243 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: But in some respects now they use the shit out 244 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: of him, so I think that helps booy some of 245 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: those statistics. 246 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 2: I don't think he's as official as it used to be, 247 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: but because. 248 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, they had to. 249 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: They had so many injuries to start the season, like 250 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 3: they had to rely on him. He had to be 251 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: a security blanket, whether he was a shell of himself. 252 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: Or not shell of himself. 253 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: But still, maybe it's just because there aren't many great 254 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: tight ends. 255 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: In the NFL. 256 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: He's still better than a lot of tight ends. I 257 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: think that's an accurate thing to say at this point. 258 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: I just with another year and all of these miles 259 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 3: on him, I would be shocked if he's a top 260 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 3: ten this year. And like that sounds crazy to say 261 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 3: because he's still Travis Kelcey, but I will legitimately be 262 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: shocked if he is a top ten tight end this year. 263 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: He should have walked off into the rainbow sunset. Go 264 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 3: get married, Go start a family, Go do your podcast 265 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: with your brother, and help her mom renovate her home. 266 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 3: You're gonna It's one of those things where we deal 267 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: with it in sports all the time, where we see 268 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: someone that was so beloved for quite some time just 269 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 3: stick around too long that it ruins their legacy. Look 270 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 3: at Bill Belichick, You should have rolled off into the sunset, 271 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 3: been a legend, you know you had. 272 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 2: Look at gros he could be Gronk. 273 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: Like Gronk knew when to walk away. Know when to 274 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 3: walk away. Don't ruin your legacy. Go live this next 275 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: chapter of your life, because your height of fame is 276 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 3: never going to be this high again. 277 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: Walk away. 278 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: I think in this is getting really pop psychology on you. 279 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: I think part of it is that Travis Kelcey is 280 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: scared because he doesn't know what's next outside of being 281 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: on a podcast, which doesn't provide you the same level 282 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: of fame or meaning as being a star football player 283 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: does the same level of attention and love and admiration, 284 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: and as though his future wife has that more than 285 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: anyone on planet Earth. And if he walks away, he 286 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: becomes complete second fiddle. So I think there's probably there's 287 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: gotta be some paranoia, like if I I can't stop 288 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: doing this, because then I lose all meaning. 289 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 2: In this relationship. 290 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 3: Every athlete goes through that, man like get a therapist, babe. 291 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: We're about to dive deep into Major League Baseball regular 292 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: season win totals with the guru of all things Baseball, 293 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: Sean Zarillo. 294 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: But first a word from DraftKings. 295 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 3: The Favorites podcast is sponsored by Droptking Sportsbook, and you 296 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 3: should know. 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Baseball season has 309 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: essentially arrived, Sean, you must be pretty jacked up about that. 310 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, one more day and then we got a 311 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 7: game on Netflix for some reason, I don't love the 312 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 7: monetization and corporatization of. 313 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 5: The game that we love. 314 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 7: But then a full slate on Thursday, and I never 315 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 7: understand why a lot of these teams end up having 316 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 7: an off day after their first game either. I don't 317 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 7: really understand the scheduling of that. But we'll launch fully 318 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 7: into things on Saturday, I think with all teams playing, 319 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 7: so yeah, full weekend of Baseball ahead Survivor pools does 320 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 7: make it a little bit difficult fantasy as well. Normally, 321 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 7: I feel like for Fantasy Survivor they give you that 322 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 7: like ten day first week. They compressed everything into a 323 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 7: four or five three four five day first week here, 324 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 7: So that's a little weird, but I couldn't be more 325 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 7: excited to have two four hundred and thirty regular season 326 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 7: games to handicap and then all the playoffs behind it. 327 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 7: So yeah, we've been fully launched into baseball already with 328 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 7: the WBC and got the warm up out of the 329 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 7: way and ready for the regular season. 330 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: Well, look, these massive contracts aren't going to pay for themselves, 331 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: so they got to come up with creative ways to 332 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: generate that sort of revenue. You get the one off 333 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: with the Yankees and the Giants on Wednesday night and 334 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: then the traditional opening day on Thursday. We're talking mL 335 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: BE season long win totals on today's podcast. Primarily we 336 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: might fit some other things in there as well, but 337 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: this is your last chance to get in pre flop 338 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: on the win totals across the league. What's the first 339 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: thing that people need to look at when diving into 340 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: baseball win totals? And I ask because we're in an 341 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: NFL betting podcast. In the NFL, you start with the schedule. 342 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: In baseball, I would think that that's a lot less 343 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: irrelevant because you're playing everybody in the NBA. It's very 344 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: player driven with new additions to the team because one 345 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: player makes such a massive difference on what your season 346 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: outlook is, what's and there are multiple factors, but what's 347 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: the number one key to baseball totals? 348 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: Where do you start at? 349 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 5: Number one? 350 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 7: I would say is the fact that if you add 351 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 7: up all the win totals at a specific book, you're 352 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 7: going to get higher than the possible number of wins 353 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 7: you could have in a season. So books are going 354 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 7: to overinflate their win total market by eight wins, fifteen wins, 355 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 7: what have you. So generally speaking, unders are more profitable 356 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 7: or there's going to be more value on unders, just 357 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 7: because there's more possible wins listed for these teams than 358 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 7: they could possibly win in a season. Now, even beyond that, 359 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 7: I think there's a wide range of publicly available win 360 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 7: total projections, not only my own, which you can find 361 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 7: on Action network dot com, but also and you could 362 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 7: find this in my article as well, so you don't 363 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 7: have to jump around and do all the work, but 364 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 7: other publicly available projections from Fangrafts, Pacoda ATC again if 365 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 7: you go to my article, you can find on the 366 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 7: tabs for these divisions my win total and then all 367 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 7: the other win totals that are out there, so you 368 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 7: can kind of paint a picture of the expected range 369 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 7: of outcomes that these teams have. And some teams have 370 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 7: very narrow ranges, just two or three wins. Other teams 371 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 7: have much wider ranges, which are closer to ten wins 372 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 7: in their projection gap. So finding where there is consensus 373 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 7: value on specific teams. For example, a team like the 374 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 7: Mariners who can get to but everybody thinks the Mariners 375 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 7: are winning their division over fifty percent of the time. 376 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 7: There's other consensus teams like the Marlins, who I'm really 377 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 7: high on. Every single prediction out there, every public projection 378 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 7: thinks the Marlins are going over their win total this year, 379 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 7: and I'm actually at the little bit of the higher 380 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 7: end of that range. So you can use publicly available 381 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 7: data to form a consensus opinion, but no going in 382 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 7: when you form that consensus that you're likelier to have 383 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 7: more value on the unders as opposed. 384 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 2: To the overs. 385 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: Amen to that love betting a good baseball under. Is 386 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: there anything that happened in spring training? That change your opinion. 387 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: I guess we can layer the World Baseball Classic into 388 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: this as well, though that's more players specific than teams specific. 389 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: But admittedly, and I love watching baseball, I ignore spring training. 390 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: I mean to me, it's just like background noise. I 391 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: don't factor that in. But you're much more keyed in 392 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: on this stuff than I am. Are you looking at 393 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: spring training performances from teams, from specific players and factoring 394 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: that into your season long analysis to degree? 395 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 7: I think something you can find noise in or something 396 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 7: you could find signal in in small samples. As a 397 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 7: post the noise is strikeout rate. Strikeout rate tends to 398 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 7: stabilize much more quickly than other data points. Sixty plate appearances, 399 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 7: one hundred plate appearances. You can actually paint a pretty 400 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 7: good picture of a player's strikeout rate expected strike out rate, 401 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 7: both for hitters and for pitchers, so it could be 402 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,239 Speaker 7: extremely useful. Somebody who've been monitoring the strike out rate 403 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 7: very closely for this year is Ronald the Kunu Junior. 404 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 7: Because you go back to his MVP season, Acunya struck 405 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 7: out like eleven percent of the time. You look at 406 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 7: the rest of his career history, it's north of twenty percent. 407 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 7: So if Ronald the Kuna Junior is able to cut 408 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 7: a strikeout rate down in half where he had it 409 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 7: fro him previously, he's an MVP candidate immediately. Again, his 410 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 7: strikeout rate between the WBC and Spring is kind of 411 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 7: where it was previously, but his walk rate is shot up, 412 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 7: and his walk right shot up last year too, So 413 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 7: I think you're sort of seeing the evolution of a 414 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 7: Ronald Lacunya that is going to be a little bit 415 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 7: more patient at the plate and hunting for power and 416 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 7: big swings at the dish and looking for home runs. 417 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 7: So maybe not going to get that forty forty season again, 418 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 7: but maybe tilting towards getting closer to fifty home runs, 419 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 7: potentially closer to thirty steels, just because he's not going 420 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 7: to be standing on first base as much so finding 421 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 7: strikeout rate differentials relative to previous performance. Obviously, injury news 422 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 7: is the biggest factor with your note about you know 423 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 7: teams who have been impacted most by Spring. It's clearly 424 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 7: the braves, the braves of Blast, Spencer, schwellenbach Hurst and 425 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 7: Waldrop and now Spencer Strider is on the ale as well. 426 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 7: Ranaldo Lopez's velocity is down, and Jerickson Profar got suspended. 427 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 7: So five key players for the Braves that were expected 428 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 7: to be there at the starter spring are either on 429 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 7: the IL or gone for the season. The Braves are 430 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 7: a team who I bet the win total under, and 431 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 7: I've also bet them to miss the playoffs during spring. 432 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 7: And as I just mentioned with the Marlins, I think 433 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 7: a team like the Marlins or a team like the 434 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 7: Pirates now have a path to potentially finding a back 435 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 7: end playoff spot because if you assume the Mets and 436 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 7: Phillies will probably get playoff spots, the Cubs and Brewers, 437 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,239 Speaker 7: I think will both get playoff spots. The Doughters, we know, 438 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 7: will get a playoff spot. That's five of the six 439 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 7: playoff teams in. 440 00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 5: The National League. 441 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 7: So if you're going to kick Atlanta out of there, 442 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 7: it does open the window for a team like Miami 443 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 7: or the Giants, or for the Pirates. So I think 444 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 7: there's a chance, or I think there's a good chance 445 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 7: that we get a quote unquote surprise playoff team from 446 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 7: the NL as a result of how poorly the first 447 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 7: month prior to the season has gone for Atlanta. Just 448 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 7: the other thing about your point. For the World Baseball Classic, 449 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 7: the Red Sox and Royals players performed really well. 450 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 5: I know it's a small. 451 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 7: Sample, but those guys were heavily involved on good teams 452 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 7: and having good performances. And I think, you know, concerning 453 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 7: the Royals players, specifically Pasquentino, Jackkaggs, Michael Garcia who won 454 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 7: tournament MVP, I think they all just showed great play discipline. 455 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 7: They're all young hitters who are continuing to get better, 456 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 7: and in key spots and high pressure at bats, they 457 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 7: showed that they were willing to wait for their pitch 458 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 7: and take very patient abs and you know, not swing 459 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 7: at balls and only swing at strikes. And that is 460 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 7: the general like thesis that I have going forward, or 461 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 7: the corner that I want to be gone going forward, 462 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 7: and what I plan to incorporate more to the data 463 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 7: MO is swing selection data, swinging at strikes, not swinging 464 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 7: at balls, knowing the swing at the right pitches, because 465 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 7: that is a very process driven stat and the more 466 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 7: good pitches you're swinging at, the more bad pitches you're 467 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 7: avoiding swinging at, the more production you should ultimately have. 468 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 7: So I think that's a really good data point and 469 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 7: something that people do not look at yet that I 470 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 7: think a year from now, two years from now will 471 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 7: have a number and people will will ave a debate 472 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 7: who has the best swing selection. 473 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 3: So I am not the biggest baseball better in the world. 474 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: I will say the pitch clock has drawn me back in. 475 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: And I know that the World Baseball Classic drew better 476 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 3: ratings than the NBA Finals last year. So maybe we're 477 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 3: seeing baseball move back up into that second slot of 478 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 3: America's favorite sport behind football. In your opinion, I know 479 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: we're talking win totals today, but do you think that 480 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 3: that has the best of value in futures? Would it 481 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 3: be cy Young's, would it be MVPs? Would it be 482 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 3: World Series futures? Where can casuals like myself maybe find 483 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 3: the best value. 484 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think some of these divisional prices, like I 485 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 7: mentioned with Seattle. I make Seattle about minus four hundred 486 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 7: and you can still bet them at plus money, and 487 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 7: every other projecting system aside from my own, says they're 488 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 7: a value bet to win their division, win the al wells. 489 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 7: So there can be some humongous edges in terms of 490 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 7: divisional odds, not necessarily win totals or World Series. It's 491 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 7: tough to find bigger edges or big edges in those markets. 492 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 7: Seattle again is a consensus World Series value pick. But 493 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 7: I'd say to make the playoffs, to make or miss 494 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 7: the playoffs, and then the divisional odds are where you're 495 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 7: going to find the biggest values in the team futures market. 496 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 7: I bet Houston at plus one fifty five plus one 497 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 7: sixty five to miss the playoffs. I bet San Diego 498 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,239 Speaker 7: in a similar range. They're both minus one ten. 499 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 3: Now. 500 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 7: So a month ago, you know, six weeks ago, if 501 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 7: you had jumped on those bets, I thought there was 502 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 7: a fifteen to twenty percent edge on those bets, like 503 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 7: a humongous edge, and edge you'll never find on a 504 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 7: single regular season game. Right now, that bet that has 505 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 7: the humongous edge is Seattle to win the Ale West. 506 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 5: So I think that's the best bet on the board. 507 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 7: And not only is it the best bet on the board, 508 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 7: I think it's like a twenty or thirty percent edge, 509 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 7: it's a massive edge. You will never find that edge 510 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 7: that big during the season. When you're talking about where 511 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 7: in general you could find the best edges or where 512 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 7: in general there's the most value I think it's actually 513 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 7: the milestone props I put out. Was on an episode 514 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 7: a couple weeks ago here on the Favorites, we talked 515 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 7: about player props team props. I pointed out that as 516 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 7: opposed to taking the player to lead his category and 517 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 7: home runs or player to lead his category in picture wins, 518 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 7: finding the sixteen plus pitcher wins or thirty plus home 519 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 7: run projections, and again you can find all that in 520 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 7: my content with projections on them. But those bets offered 521 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 7: much bigger edges relative to the leader props or relative 522 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 7: to any other type of player props, just because I 523 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 7: think it's more difficult for people to project out the 524 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 7: limits on those are a little bit lower, and also 525 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 7: the range of outcomes could be a little bit wider 526 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 7: on these players. So if you're not being very diligent 527 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 7: in terms of projecting them out, I think you can 528 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 7: over or under project their ability to hit those certain milestones. 529 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,719 Speaker 7: But in general, aside from these specific divisional or make 530 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 7: the playoff futures, where I thought there were huge edges 531 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 7: in the team market, it's the player milestones and the 532 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 7: you know players, pick a player or two you like 533 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 7: this year, bet them thirty plus home runs forty plus 534 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 7: home runs. If it's a steals guy, bet them forty steals, 535 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 7: fifty steals. Kind of ladder them up to where you 536 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 7: think they may eventually get. And if you think there's 537 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 7: value on one, I can almost assure you there's value 538 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 7: on the ladder. 539 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: I want to piggyback off of your World Baseball Classic 540 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 3: comment and the Red Sox. I'm looking at Roman Anthony 541 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: after the World Baseball Classic and maybe some of his 542 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 3: milestones or maybe like a long shot at MVP. Do 543 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 3: you see any value in that? I know Bryce Harper 544 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: won won at twenty three. I think by the time 545 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 3: those awards come around Roman anthe will probably be twenty one. 546 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 3: Is there any value in getting ahead on anything Roman Anthony? 547 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 3: Just because I feel like locally up here in Boston, 548 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 3: he's obviously the hero, but nationally he's not getting the 549 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 3: recognition in comparison to the other names. After the World 550 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 3: Baseball Classic. 551 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, he hits the ball as hard as anybody. If 552 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 7: you look at his stackass page, I think the highest 553 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 7: hard hit rate in baseball this season, and if you 554 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 7: compare the guys who hit the ball the hardest, it's 555 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 7: all the top pitters in the league. 556 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 5: It's Aeron Judge, it's you know, Wan. 557 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 7: Soto, it's it's the players you'd expect are all near 558 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 7: the top of the leaderboard. Anthony only had three hundred 559 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 7: plate appearances as a rookie because he ended up getting hurt. 560 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 7: If you actually just look solely at projections, the projections 561 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 7: would say there's value on his home run under this season. 562 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 7: I do not agree with that and cannot agree with that, 563 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 7: even though the mass says that, and my mask says that, 564 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 7: just because I know how hard this dude hits the ball, 565 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 7: and really it's a matter of just changing the swing 566 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 7: path in the swing angle and being able to lift 567 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 7: more balls out. So it's tough to say that he's 568 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 7: potentially an MVP candidate right now. I think he's maybe 569 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 7: a year or two away from winning an MVP. He 570 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 7: may get some down ballot MVP votes this year. It 571 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 7: could be potentially the milestone props though in the thirty 572 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 7: plus forty plus for him, because the projections say, well, 573 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 7: the projections say under on him. If he ends up 574 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 7: going over that bar, it's probably going to be way 575 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,479 Speaker 7: over that bar, because it's going to be the result 576 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 7: of a swing path change and him lifting more balls 577 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 7: in the air. 578 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 5: We know how hard he can hit the ball. 579 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 7: We know that he has all the skills to square 580 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 7: the ball up what I was talking about before learning 581 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 7: swing decisions. He already seems like he's one of the 582 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 7: best at that, and that's why he's such a highly 583 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 7: ranked prospect, because he's swinging good pitches for him to drive. 584 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 7: So yeah, I would say it's probably the milestone props 585 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 7: for Anthony, and specifically the thirty plus forty plus angles 586 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 7: if he has, if he has a good enough season 587 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 7: to go over twenty, I think there's a good chance 588 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 7: he's getting close to thirty. 589 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: I like that Roman, Anthony. Look, his star is only 590 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: getting brighter. And let's stay in the division. This is 591 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: a perhaps the best division in baseball. 592 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 2: Would you agree with that? Just in general? 593 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 5: San Ales? 594 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 7: Absolutely, We've never had four teams from one division make 595 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 7: the playoffs together in the three team wildcard era. Every 596 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 7: projection system essentially projects the Yankees, Jays, Orioles, and Red Sox. 597 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 5: All to go over five hundred. But also they're all 598 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 5: minus money to make the playoffs. 599 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 7: So yeah, our our old friend Anthony Deobundo picked four 600 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 7: alas teams to make the playoffs. I have a very 601 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 7: tough time picking four teams for the division to make 602 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 7: They're going to beat up on more than favored to 603 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 7: make it. 604 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 5: It has to be the best division of baseball. 605 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you have. I'm an Orioles fan. 606 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: I love the addition of Pete Alonzo as good a one, 607 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: two three as you'll find in baseball. With Gunner and 608 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: Adleie Rutchman and Pete Alonzo in the lineup, the rotation 609 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: always has its question marks. With the Orioles, you have 610 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: Roman Anthony and the Red Sox double down on pitching 611 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: as well. The Blue Jays were busy in the offseason, 612 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: and the Yankees or the Yankees, and then we always 613 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: forget to mention the Rays. But yet they're perhaps the 614 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: best run organization dollar for dollar in Major League Baseball. 615 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: So how do you see this shaking out the pecking order? 616 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: If teams you think getting four in the playoffs is 617 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: that's asking a lot. But how do you see it 618 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: shaking out in terms of which teams you're higher on 619 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: than market, which teams you're lower on than market? 620 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, only had two bets here in terms of team props. 621 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 5: It was or team bets. 622 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 7: It's the Yankees under ninety two and a half in 623 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 7: the Rays over seventy six and a half. The Yankees 624 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 7: is gone. It's down to ninety and a half. The 625 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 7: Rays over would remain a bet because I have them 626 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 7: closer to eighty wins eighty one wins. The public projection 627 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 7: market generally also has them going over as well, they 628 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 7: have them near seventy nine. I know it's a very 629 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 7: tough and deep and difficult division, as we just alluded to, 630 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 7: but the Rays are also going back to Tropicana Field, 631 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 7: where they've spent the majority of their time as a 632 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 7: Major League club, and we have data going back to 633 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 7: two thousand and five on the trop the Rays have 634 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 7: been the most profitable home underdog in our database. They're 635 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 7: often underrated at the trop They build their team to 636 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 7: play low scoring pitching games there, and I think in general, 637 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 7: playing at Stan Brederfield last year, where we saw a 638 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 7: lot more offense, ended up hurting them. Not only was 639 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 7: it a reduced home field in general, the Yankees are 640 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 7: used to playing in those dimensions, but there were just 641 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 7: a lot of goofy games with you know, those short 642 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 7: porch home runs going out to right field tipping over 643 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 7: the wall that ended up swinging out comes. The wind 644 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 7: bulling in or blowing out was drastically effected games. So 645 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 7: I think going back to the trop is going to 646 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 7: be a massive lift for the Raised chances, especially in 647 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 7: home games. But I do think in general, because everybody 648 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 7: is so high in the other four teams in this division, 649 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 7: they have forgot about Tampa Bay and for that reason, 650 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 7: there's a lot of value on Tampa Bay in the 651 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 7: futures market. My favorite way to bet them, and I 652 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 7: love that win tot over. As I said at seventy 653 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 7: six and a half, my favorite way to bet them 654 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 7: is Kevin Cash to win Manager of the Year. This 655 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 7: is a team who's plus three hundred to make the playoffs, 656 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 7: just plus three hundred, and their manager to win Manager 657 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 7: of the Year in the toughest division in baseball is 658 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 7: north of. 659 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 5: Twenty to one. 660 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 7: Why are the odds five six, seven times higher than 661 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 7: their odds to make the playoffs? If the Rays make 662 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 7: the playoffs, Kevin Cash is top two in Manager of 663 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 7: the Year voting easily, So I always think there's a 664 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 7: better way to bet something. I would much rather bet 665 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 7: Kevin Cash to win Manager of the Year at twenty 666 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 7: to one fifteen to one, then I would bet the 667 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 7: race to make the playoffs at three to one. I 668 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 7: think that's a tremendous bet. You could do the same 669 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 7: thing with the Pittsburgh Pirates as well. Their odds for 670 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 7: Don Kelly to win Manager of the Year are substantially 671 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 7: better than their odds to make the playoffs. The Marlins two. 672 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 7: Their odds for Clayton mccolly, I believe to win Manager 673 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 7: of the Year substantially better than the odds to make 674 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 7: the playoffs. 675 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 5: So there's always a better way to what be's something. 676 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 7: I think that manager angle for Tampa is really good, 677 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 7: but I like the wind Towle little over too. 678 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: What's scaring you off about the Yankees? Because a lot 679 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 3: of people are really high on them. I know that 680 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 3: they're getting Garrett coleback. Do you think that he's just 681 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 3: not going to be able to step back into that 682 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 3: ace role? Ass that the Aaron Judge is a massive choker. 683 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: What's what's scaring you off about the Yankees? 684 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 2: Probably Judge. 685 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 5: The shaded Judge is appropriate. Just standing there. 686 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 7: In the WBC final is an image that will be 687 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 7: his legacy for now unless he ends up winning gold 688 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 7: medal in the Olympics, So yeah, killed his legacy briefly. 689 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 7: You know, the Yankees do have a lot of upside. 690 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 7: Ryan Weathers at the back end of their rotation. Uh, 691 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 7: there's a number of pitching prospects that they have that 692 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 7: they could bring up. We saw Louis Heel when the 693 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 7: rookie of the year. He's not even projected to be 694 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 7: in their opening their rotation. So Schlitzler, you know, Slitler 695 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 7: was great in the playoff last year. There's a lot 696 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 7: of upside on this roster, a lot of upside. But 697 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 7: I do think all of the win total projections just 698 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 7: have them closer to eighty nine and again, and I 699 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 7: think the compression of this division the top to the 700 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 7: bottom is a little bit closer than what people think 701 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 7: it is. You know, the Yankees, the Orioles, and the 702 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 7: Red Sox are all kind of projected in a similar 703 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 7: range last year. Yankees just a little bit ahead of them. 704 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 7: I think you look at the win total projections this 705 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 7: year and everybody who was beneath them is just a 706 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 7: little bit closer. So it is tougher for them to 707 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 7: clear that ninety bar if the other three alias teams 708 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 7: behind them are going to be pushing closer to eighty 709 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 7: five wins, and then the Rays as well pushing closer 710 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 7: to a five hundred team. So I think it's just 711 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 7: the difficulty of the vision and having to play each 712 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 7: of those teams thirteen times makes it really hard for 713 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 7: any of them to get higher. 714 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 5: Than ninety ones. 715 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 3: Okay, you're not giving the blue Jays any love, and 716 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 3: I'm all over the blue. 717 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: Jays this season. 718 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 5: What's with the Blue Jay hate? It's not hate. 719 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 7: In fact, I think the Blue Jays are maybe the 720 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 7: likeliest team to add pieces in season, potentially even likelier 721 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 7: than the Yankees. They just missed out on essentially all 722 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 7: of their offseason targets aside from Dylan Cees, Trey is 723 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 7: on the IL to start the season. He was phenomenal 724 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 7: in the playoffs last year. I do think vladd is 725 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 7: going to have an MVP caliber season. Vladd made some 726 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 7: swing changes with their hitting staff near the end of 727 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 7: the year. I think that's why you saw him take 728 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 7: off in the playoffs and then have such a great 729 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 7: World Baseball Classic as well. So I do think Vladd 730 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 7: is kind of back to his peak form that you 731 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 7: saw when he had that forty plus home run season 732 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 7: earlier in his career. But largely, this is a team 733 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 7: built on depth, and this is a team built to 734 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 7: win in the regular season and then if they're able 735 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 7: to make the playoffs, which they should because they have 736 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 7: a very high floor, they will be competitive. But they 737 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 7: may not have the most talented playoff roster top to bottom. 738 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 7: So I do think this is a more of a 739 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 7: regular season team. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but I do 740 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 7: think they are a very competent and well built club 741 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 7: and it's very likely that they'd make the playoffs. It's 742 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 7: just the question of what they add in season. Because 743 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 7: they really wanted to get Kyle Tucker in addition to 744 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 7: Dylan Ceas they only ended up getting seased, So I 745 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 7: think they're going to be looking for one more bad 746 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 7: particularly and outfield, there is that Jesus Sanchez Nathan Lucas 747 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 7: combo that they're running out in the left field. 748 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 5: I think you can upgrade. 749 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: So I'm by the way, I'm feverishly taking notes over here. 750 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: We'll have many bets placed by the time we wrap 751 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: up this podcast. So love in the info from Sean Zarillo. 752 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: One team that I've been looking at is the I'm 753 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: not sure what city they're in. Athletics. They were fifty 754 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: three and forty six in their last ninety nine games 755 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: last year. They had a twenty A one and twenty 756 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: run at one point in the season, and they still 757 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 1: won seventy six games last year. 758 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 2: I kind of like the talent on this team. 759 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: Where are they playing, where are they still in Sacramento 760 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: And would we be wise to look at a win 761 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: total over for the Athletics as a team that might 762 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: be a lot better than people expect. 763 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, these Sacramento Athletics, they are still there this year. 764 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 7: The biggest you know, on our Payoff Pitch pod, every 765 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 7: single time we mentioned Oakland and I'm gonna mention it 766 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 7: by name specifically because I'm referencing it. We do have 767 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 7: to give out fun facts about the city of Sacramento. 768 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 7: It's our self impost punishment every time it's it's the 769 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 7: city of Trees there. I believe it's where the Pony 770 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 7: Express was also founded. So I've become a lot more 771 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 7: aware of the city of Sacramento in general. They're playing 772 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 7: in West Sacramento specifically too. They like to highlight that part, 773 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 7: but I think the biggest takeaway from the a Is 774 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 7: last year was apparently, and Sacramento is very hot during 775 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 7: the summer, it was expect that park was expected to 776 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 7: play like Course Field at the height of summer. Apparently, 777 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 7: it was a relatively temperate or moderate heat summer last year, 778 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 7: so we didn't even see the park play to its 779 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 7: full potential. I think this year, assuming we get back 780 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 7: to full temperatures or expected temperatures, you're going to see 781 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 7: even more runs in that park this year, a park 782 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 7: which already played about twenty percent over the Major League gaverage. 783 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 7: So a lot of runs for the A's, but they're 784 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 7: also going to give up a lot of runs. I 785 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 7: think their offense is great. I think their pitching is 786 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 7: potentially terrible. We did see them develop some guys for 787 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 7: their pitching staff came up and looked pretty solid. But 788 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 7: getting them to eighty one wins, getting them over five hundred, 789 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 7: I think is going to be difficult. Even in a 790 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 7: vision that I don't like a lot of teams in. 791 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 7: I make them about seventy three wins. The public projection 792 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 7: market has them right on the nose with their total 793 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 7: at seventy six, so it's a pass for me. I 794 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 7: think you're going to bet a lot of overs with 795 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 7: this team, though. 796 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 1: So another team that was bad but a whole lot 797 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: worse last year. The Colorado Rockies lost one hundred and 798 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: nineteen games. Last year, they finished a meager fifty games 799 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: out of first place in the West. Is it possible 800 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: that they might actually get worse this year or do 801 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: you have to look over for them because of the 802 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: rarity of losing that many games. 803 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: Their win total over. 804 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: On DK fifty four and a half as it stands 805 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: right now. 806 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think in the second half they ended up 807 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 7: playing closer to that fifty five win pace, So they 808 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 7: did play you know, what their expectations are this year, 809 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 7: They did play to that expectation of the second half 810 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 7: last year. I'm by far the lowest in the market 811 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 7: on the Rockies. I put them at fifty two wins 812 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 7: fifty two point one. The average public projection has them 813 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 7: at sixty two. Again, I'm at fifty two. The average 814 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 7: public direction is at sixty two, and everybody is higher 815 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 7: on the Rockies than they're fifty five win total. I 816 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 7: bet it's small, but at fifty one and a half, 817 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 7: at fifty five or whereever it is, currently I can't 818 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 7: bet the over, but the public projection market would absolutely 819 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 7: say to still bet the over on this team. I 820 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 7: think there's different approaches you could take, though, rather than 821 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 7: just betting the Rockies over. At this point, I still 822 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 7: think San Diego is under is a better bet, and 823 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 7: it's relatively correlated to Colorado's over as well, because you 824 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 7: need the Rockies to probably steal some of those games 825 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 7: in order to go over that total, and you need 826 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 7: them to probably steal some games and for the Podres 827 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 7: to go under. So there's different approaches you could take. 828 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 7: You know, a lot of these bets are correlated. For example, 829 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 7: if we went to the nl East, I have an 830 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 7: opinion on every NLA and every nleaset team, but largely 831 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 7: those opinions are all correlated to one or other, So 832 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 7: it's very important. I think that's another good note not 833 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 7: to overallocate within one specific division, because all of those 834 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 7: bets are going to kind of need one another to 835 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 7: hit in order to hit with each other. 836 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 3: I'm going to trigger everyone by bringing up the Dodgers. 837 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 2: Come on, I am Dodgers. 838 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 3: I personally don't think that they're well, I don't think 839 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 3: that they're ruining baseball. But that's the question I want 840 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 3: to ask right now World Series future. I don't think 841 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 3: that their odds are going to get any better if 842 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 3: you like them. But in this current moment, would you 843 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 3: take the Dodgers or would you take the field? 844 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 2: And why I. 845 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 7: Would take the field because the field includes Seattle. I 846 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 7: also think the Mets or the Brewers could be good 847 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 7: enough to potentially take on the Dodgers leave, they could 848 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 7: be good enough to come take on the Dodgers come 849 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 7: playoff time. You know, to your point about the dodds 850 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 7: maybe ruining baseball, it actually does play in to how 851 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 7: this year play might play out. So we do have 852 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 7: Dodgers sign Kyle Tucker, they signed Edwin Diaz, right, they 853 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 7: had the best team, They signed the two best free agents. 854 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 7: You could make an argument that that's not good for 855 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 7: the game. That said, it is good for the players. 856 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 7: The players are getting the most money they're able to. 857 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 7: We should root for the players to make bank and 858 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 7: maximize their value. But as a result of this, we 859 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 7: may lock out next year. But as the result of 860 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 7: the fact that we may lock out next year, you 861 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 7: may see teams be a little bit more aggressive this 862 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,959 Speaker 7: year in terms of going for it, or in terms 863 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 7: of selling, or in terms of bringing prospects up, that 864 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 7: may be a year away. So, for example, the Brewers 865 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 7: have a nineteen year old kid named Jesus made who 866 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 7: is one of the top prospects, if not the top 867 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 7: prospect in the minor leagues. We saw Jan Soto come 868 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 7: up at nineteen. This kid, by all the noise he's made, 869 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 7: has indicated that he may be ready this year. Well, 870 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 7: if we're locking out in twenty twenty seven and you're 871 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 7: not going to get that your service time for your 872 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 7: prospects anyway, and this kid is maybe ready to be 873 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 7: your major league shortstop by September, do you bring up 874 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 7: a nineteen twenty year old to play shortstop in the 875 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 7: playoffs this year? I think if it's going to happen, 876 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 7: it's going to be this year. And I think as 877 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,320 Speaker 7: a result, there is value in going against the Dodgers, 878 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 7: because everybody may be going for it if the next 879 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 7: baseball is not happening for two years. In particularly, I 880 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,439 Speaker 7: think Seattle is the team worth betting on at about 881 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 7: twelve to one or thirteen to one. So I am 882 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,399 Speaker 7: against the Dodgers specifically, if you want to bet though, 883 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 7: in the NL West Giants to finish in second place. 884 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 5: I think the. 885 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 7: Dodgers are a huge favorite to win the NL West, 886 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 7: and I make them like minus seven hundred. Other public 887 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 7: projections have them at like minus three thousand. You know, 888 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 7: they make them like an edge at minus six hundred 889 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 7: to make the playoffs. So as a result, betting the 890 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 7: Giants to finish in second place, I think it's around 891 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 7: three to one is my favorite way to bet this division. 892 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 7: You're essentially just locking in the Dodgers in first place 893 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 7: and I'm against the Podres, so that leaves San Francisco 894 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 7: as the second place bet. So I take the field 895 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 7: to your Dodgers recommendation, but I would also think the 896 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 7: Giants to finish in second place behind them. 897 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 5: If you need an NL West bet. 898 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 3: In particular, my follow up would be, there isn't really 899 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 3: such thing as like a dynasty in baseball, but you can. 900 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 3: Are the Dodgers a dynasty in baseball? 901 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 5: Absolutely? 902 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 7: I don't even remember when the last time they lost 903 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 7: the NLS, aside from when the Giants and them both 904 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 7: had one hundred plus wins and the Giants just had 905 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 7: more than them that year, They've they've either won the 906 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 7: division or had one hundred wins every year for the 907 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 7: past ten years. So and they've won two world titles 908 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 7: I believe in that time, three world titles in that time. 909 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 7: It's it's tough to count the COVID title as a 910 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 7: full title, so like two and a half titles in 911 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 7: that time. 912 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. 913 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 7: No, this is absolutely a dynasty. I mean, if you're 914 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 7: a threat to cancel the sport because you're too good, 915 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 7: I think you've already become a dynasty. 916 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 5: If they win this. 917 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 7: Year and make it three straight, they start to go 918 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 7: from dynasty to all time lists. 919 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 3: Have they ruined the sport if that's the case, No, I. 920 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 5: Don't think so. I don't think so. 921 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 7: I think I think the teams, the Pirates owners ruined 922 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 7: the sport. You know the fact that people are talking 923 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 7: about the Pirates and should they trade Paul Skins, Well, 924 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 7: they should fire their They the owner should be kicked out. 925 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 5: Of the sport before Paul Skins gets traded. Like, what 926 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 5: are we doing? 927 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 7: Why are we making this argument? The Daughters are doing 928 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 7: nothing wrong there playing the game. It's the other teams 929 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 7: that are not playing the game, the other ownership groups 930 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 7: that are not playing the game. 931 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 2: With them. 932 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, amen to that, and it's very on brand for baseball, 933 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: a sport that I love. But boy, do they know 934 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: how to shoot themselves in the foot when they gain 935 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 1: the most popularity. 936 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 2: Yes, it is so frustrating. 937 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 1: It feels like this sport, to Kendri's point earlier, has 938 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: worked itself back into a conversation of right behind the NFL. 939 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: Whether it is or it's not, it's there is a 940 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: conversation to be had there and they go, oh, you 941 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 1: know what, you know what will really help that? What 942 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 1: if we stop playing games and get into a labor dispute? 943 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 2: People love that shit. 944 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: Anyway, Let's talk about one of the other divisions I've 945 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: got my eye on, and I think there could be 946 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: some value here. The AL Central is one of the 947 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 1: least competitive divisions in baseball. We all love the Tigers. 948 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: This year, Fangrafts has the Tigers is the only team 949 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 1: in the division projected to have a winning record. I 950 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 1: really like this Royals team. You're talking about some of 951 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: their young stars, so there could be a potential over 952 00:42:59,239 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: for them. 953 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 2: The Twins might be undervalued here. 954 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: Where do you see the AL Central value within the 955 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: Central Division? 956 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 7: I think the Tigers could end up being the one 957 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 7: seed in the American League. I think the Tigers and 958 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 7: the Mariners will be the top two seeds in the 959 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 7: American League. This is another team. To the point I 960 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 7: was just talking about with Kendra about teams being aggressive 961 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 7: in terms of prospect promotion, Kevin McGonagall, I would be 962 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 7: surprised at this point if he's not on the opening 963 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 7: day roster for the Tigers. He's the number one prospect 964 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 7: in baseball. To the other points I was talking about 965 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 7: about swing decisions, that is his best skill. This is 966 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 7: not a guy who's gonna come up and go thirty 967 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 7: thirty like Bobby Wick. 968 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 5: He doesn't have. 969 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 7: Insane power, insane speed, insane athleticism combo. 970 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 5: His best skill is swinging at strikes. 971 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,280 Speaker 7: And not swinging at balls, and also playing short stop, 972 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 7: and when he connects with the ball or when he 973 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 7: wants to put bat on the ball, he can do 974 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 7: it like They're not the. 975 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,760 Speaker 5: Most esthetically pleasing skills. 976 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,720 Speaker 7: He's not gonna hit thirty five home runs and steal 977 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 7: thirty bases, but he will constantly give you good at 978 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 7: bats and probably hit close. 979 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 5: To three hundred with a high on base percentage and 980 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 5: hit a ton. 981 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 7: Of doubles, so he's probably going to be on the 982 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 7: opening day roster for the Tigers. I think if he's not, 983 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 7: it's going to be due to service time and he'll 984 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 7: be up in two weeks. But they have another guy 985 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 7: named Max Clark, who you might have seen messing up 986 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 7: grotesquely in spring while wearing like ten chain necklaces around 987 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 7: his neck and sunglasses and having a camera crew on 988 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 7: him at all times, because the dude is like a 989 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 7: social media star in addition to trying to be a 990 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 7: first round pick major League baseball player. But the Tigers 991 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,280 Speaker 7: seem like they are going for it, and I think 992 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 7: you don't normally see a team like this add a 993 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 7: ton of talent in season. I think they will be 994 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 7: willing to cash in prospects to put themselves in position 995 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 7: to be a better team. Seattle's kind of already done 996 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 7: those things. They've already gone out and cashed in prospects 997 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 7: for pieces who they want to have at the start 998 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 7: of the year, and I think their team is almost complete, 999 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 7: Like I would be happy if that team went into 1000 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 7: the playoffs with the roster they have right now. The 1001 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 7: Tigers do have a few spots where you look like 1002 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,280 Speaker 7: you get an upgrade, and I think they will ultimately 1003 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 7: fill in those holes, especially if they're going to be 1004 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 7: on top of the division. I bet this team to 1005 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 7: win the division last year. Obviously they ended up collapsing it. 1006 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 7: It's one of the worst futures losses they've ever had. 1007 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 7: I am all over them again this year, and I 1008 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 7: think I bet them at like plus one sixty five, 1009 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 7: and now we're close to even money or minus money, 1010 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 7: to the point where I don't even project value on 1011 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 7: them anymore. The public projections say they're still value on 1012 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 7: this team to win the division. I just don't at 1013 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 7: this point. So I think you can still bet them 1014 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 7: to win the division, just most of the value has 1015 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 7: been sucked out of it. The Royals Brandon I do 1016 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,919 Speaker 7: like as a potential playoff team. The problem with them 1017 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,879 Speaker 7: is roster depth. If they get anybody hurt, they don't 1018 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 7: have the prospects or the guys on their forty men 1019 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 7: to necessarily replace them. So I do think there's a 1020 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 7: ton of talent there. They're just going to need to 1021 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 7: stay healthy. But I do make them a playoff edge. 1022 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 7: I think I bet them to make the playoffs just 1023 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 7: before the season started and then the third team you 1024 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 7: mentioned is Minnesota. They're an interesting case because they have 1025 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 7: an ownership battle going on or they ended up they 1026 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 7: were going to sell the team. They ended up selling 1027 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 7: shares of the team to a minority ownership group. It 1028 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,280 Speaker 7: doesn't seem like they're going to invest in their roster 1029 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 7: at all. Even the minor league free agents and stuff 1030 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 7: that they tried to sign in the offseason, none of 1031 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 7: them ended up making the roster, and they cut all 1032 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 7: those guys, so they made no improvements to their roster. 1033 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,880 Speaker 7: Buckston was able to stay healthy last year for the 1034 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 7: first time in forever. There's a lot of injury risk 1035 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 7: on this roster too. Pablo Lopez got hurt. Joe Ryan 1036 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 7: is probably going to get traded at some point. The 1037 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 7: point is, the average public projection has this team at 1038 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 7: seventy seven and a half wins. Their win total is 1039 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 7: seventy two point five, so everybody says go over. The 1040 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 7: problem is, even though right now this is a seventy 1041 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 7: seven to seventy eight win team, in July, it's probably 1042 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 7: not going to be. This was the most active team 1043 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 7: at the trade deadline last year. They'll probably be one of, 1044 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 7: if not the most active teams in terms of selling 1045 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 7: off pieces this year. So you're looking at a team 1046 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 7: that right now maybe a seventy eight win team and 1047 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 7: right now in the betting market, especially for opening Day 1048 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 7: woand up getting there. But right now in the betting 1049 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 7: market in terms of a game by game basis, they 1050 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 7: may be undervalued. But from a season long perspective, I 1051 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 7: think the public projections are pointing in the wrong direction 1052 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 7: just because they're not able to accurately capture how much 1053 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 7: this team will sell in seasons. 1054 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 5: So be careful. 1055 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 7: You know, we talked about averaging out the public projections, 1056 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 7: using that to help before because that's his opinion. You 1057 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 7: do have to weigh that against news and things that 1058 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 7: are going on in the real world, and the news 1059 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 7: is all pointing downward for the Twins, So do not 1060 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 7: trust the public projection there. I make them seventy point six, 1061 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 7: and I actually bet the under for that team. 1062 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 3: Okay, final question from me, not a betting question, but 1063 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 3: I've been fighting with baseball fans since my show on 1064 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 3: Sunday where I said the Red Sox should come out 1065 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 3: with the cool food stuff that all the other teams 1066 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,399 Speaker 3: have been coming out with. Yesterday, they announced that they 1067 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 3: were coming out with some stuff, but it caused such 1068 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,439 Speaker 3: an uproar with our callers and on social media about 1069 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,919 Speaker 3: how people like me are ruining the baseball experience because 1070 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 3: real baseball fans want to go to the game and 1071 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 3: they're content with their shitty hot dog. What are your 1072 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 3: thoughts on all of these crazy MLB team food combinations 1073 00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 3: and stuff that are coming out to drive people. 1074 00:47:59,320 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 2: To the park. 1075 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 3: Because I think it's incredible. I think it's awesome. I 1076 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 3: think it's helping grow the game and get people to 1077 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,879 Speaker 3: the park. But real baseball people are saying that I'm 1078 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 3: a loser and I'm ruining the game. What are your 1079 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,280 Speaker 3: thoughts on all of these crazy concoctions? 1080 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 5: So you're not a loser. I love all the good 1081 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 5: food stuff. 1082 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm a Mets fan, so city Field I 1083 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 7: feel like kind of started this trend a little bit. 1084 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 7: I will tell you though, Kender, the first time I 1085 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 7: ever went to Fenway Park, my dad bought tickets for us. 1086 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 5: It was probably like seventeen or eighteen. 1087 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 7: We went to the Baseball Fame went up to Fenway 1088 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 7: amazing Birthday weekend. But our seats, our first seats that 1089 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 7: we try to sit in like kind of off center 1090 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 7: behind on plate. We go to fold down the seats, 1091 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 7: the seat doesn't fold all the way down. It gets 1092 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 7: stuck on the seat in front of it. So when 1093 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,359 Speaker 7: you're talking about like people saying Baseball's Fenway Park doesn't 1094 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 7: even have seats that work, and most of the seats 1095 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 7: are facing like right field or left field, would you 1096 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 7: rather have a seat facing towards home plate in the 1097 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 7: picture Sox. 1098 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 5: Fans are going to cancel you, I assume where it's 1099 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 5: a baseball tradition. 1100 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 7: No, I think I think the food and any way 1101 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 7: you could get people into sitting coming to the ballpark. 1102 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,360 Speaker 7: Anyway you could get people interested in not just watching 1103 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 7: the game on TV, getting out of the house, getting 1104 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 7: in the sun for today, but also you know, moving 1105 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 7: around the park, trying some good food, seeing all the 1106 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 7: history that's on the walls. Because I have no problem 1107 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 7: with people getting up during a game and checking out, 1108 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 7: like all of the war inside of the ballparks one 1109 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 7: of the best experiences I've ever had. And we'll move 1110 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 7: on to Brandon's question in a second, but I do 1111 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 7: want to share this story. I went to Minnesota for 1112 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 7: a wedding. My wife and I went to a Twins game. 1113 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 7: We walked around the stadium before the game. There's a 1114 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 7: bar on the top floor. I hope she's still there. 1115 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,240 Speaker 7: If you go to a Twins game this year, please 1116 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 7: try to visit her. Her name is Sue Nelson. She 1117 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 7: was the organist in the stadium. We met Sue. She 1118 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 7: plays her organ in a bar at the top of 1119 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 7: the stadium. Introduced ourselves, told her how cool she was. 1120 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 7: We were just watching it for a bit. She goes 1121 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 7: hold on, tells the bartender she's taking a break, and 1122 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,240 Speaker 7: this woman in her eighties takes me and my wife 1123 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 7: and walks us all the way around the stadium, takes 1124 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,879 Speaker 7: us into every special access place you can go. But 1125 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 7: more importantly, she's showing us the history of Minnesota town 1126 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 7: Ball and all of the history of baseball and it's 1127 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 7: actions to Minnesota and. 1128 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 5: All of the history. 1129 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 7: And I'm going to find memorability that they have in 1130 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 7: the stadium. So my point is there's so much history 1131 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 7: and memorabilia and cool things to look at in a 1132 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 7: stadium that what is the issue with people getting up 1133 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 7: to get food and walk around and look at that 1134 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 7: stuff while they're doing it, walk around the ball park 1135 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 7: toward the ballpark. That's my only issu shoot the pitchclock 1136 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,360 Speaker 7: is they will removed thirty minutes from every game to 1137 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 7: do that stuff and enjoy yourselves in the building. 1138 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 5: So not a loser take whatsoever. 1139 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 7: I think anything you can do to get people in 1140 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 7: the ballpark is a good sign. 1141 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 5: Let me get my mobster poutine in peace. 1142 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: Being first of all, being upset about a creative hot dog. 1143 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,439 Speaker 3: People want, didn't you kill me, dude. 1144 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 2: Lobster French fries? Whatever? 1145 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: Wild take be that upset about a doughnut on top 1146 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 1: of a milkshake. 1147 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 3: Literally, we're telling me to go back to Jacksonville and 1148 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 3: shut up because I wasn't a real sports fan and 1149 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,840 Speaker 3: that I should go home and enjoy my pool in 1150 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 3: my stadium and shut up. 1151 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 5: Well, wow, Franks are just a hot talk they really are. 1152 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 4: Thank you. 1153 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 1: And then, by the way, after that whole story, that 1154 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: moving story about the old lady at the Twins ballpark, 1155 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 1: let me remind you. 1156 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:23,439 Speaker 2: So, what's her name again? 1157 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 5: Nelson? 1158 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Sue Nelson. 1159 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 7: Sue Nelson used to play the organ for the Minnesota 1160 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 7: north Stars when they were still in their old building. 1161 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 7: That's how long she's been around the Minnesota sports scene. 1162 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 7: Absolute legend. If you go to a Twins game this year, 1163 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 7: go find her one of the coolest people I've ever 1164 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:38,280 Speaker 7: met in the stadium. 1165 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 1: And how does Sean say thank you? He bet the 1166 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 1: Twins under come on, Sean average move. All right, it's 1167 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 1: time to get to our plant the Flag segment, presented 1168 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: by Draft Kings. We are going to plant our flag 1169 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: on a baseball team. 1170 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 5: Up, I'm trying to plant my flag here. You're really 1171 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 5: planning your flag in that day. 1172 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,480 Speaker 1: We'll start with our guests, Sean Zarillo, your favorite team 1173 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,880 Speaker 1: bet of the Year, presented by DK. 1174 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna give out two because I talked about 1175 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 7: it five times that the Mariner's Division is the best 1176 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 7: bet on the board. My favorite win total over we 1177 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 7: didn't get to them, the Marlins over seventy two and 1178 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:17,839 Speaker 7: a half. 1179 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 5: You could take that up to seventy five. 1180 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 3: Kendra, I think I'm gonna switch gears here and I'm going. 1181 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 2: To go with Nelson. 1182 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna go. 1183 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm gonna go with my boy Paul Skians to 1184 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,840 Speaker 3: make the postseason plus two twenty five on DraftKings. 1185 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,240 Speaker 2: Now, that would be fun. 1186 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 1: We all need that, all right, Pirates into the postseason. 1187 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,720 Speaker 1: You've got Sean on the Mariners Division. Marlin's over seventy 1188 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 1: two and a half wins. I'm gonna take Seawn's advice here. 1189 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 1: He says that we should we should shade ourselves towards 1190 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: the under. 1191 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do that. 1192 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Astros under eighty six and a 1193 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 1: half wins. I think this number is too close to 1194 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,319 Speaker 1: the ceiling for a team that is trending down. They 1195 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,800 Speaker 1: missed the playoffs last year. They have Hunter Brown, he's great. 1196 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: Behind that, it's a giant question mark. They lost fran Barveldez. 1197 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,240 Speaker 1: Jeremy Painea's status. It looks like he might be available 1198 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,760 Speaker 1: for opening Day, but that's up in the air loaded 1199 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: division and partially correlated to Shawn's love for the Seattle 1200 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 1: Mariners as well. So I'll go under eighty six and 1201 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,879 Speaker 1: a half wins for the Houston Astros. So I get 1202 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: a rubber stamp of approval because I'm going to bet 1203 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,360 Speaker 1: this the second we end this podcast. 1204 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 2: If I get to. 1205 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,279 Speaker 7: Undred percent, that's my favorite win total under. Right now, 1206 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,399 Speaker 7: I just I gave the favorite win total over out. 1207 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 7: But if I was picking one under it's the astros. 1208 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 2: Phenomenal that'll do it. 1209 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,800 Speaker 1: For today's episode special thanks to our producers David Payne 1210 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 1: and Gifford Gold, Stats Hoound Evan Abrams, and our wonderful 1211 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 1: guest from the Payoff Pitch podcast, shan Zaillo. The Favorites 1212 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 1: will return on Thursday afternoon, and we might even be 1213 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: able to dig Stucky out of March Madness Mayhem. You 1214 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 1: can find it right here on the Action Network YouTube 1215 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 1: page or wherever you download your favorite podcasts. 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